aic-factory

[dull island]

cuz 5 morbillion sandleaf

[mortal socket]

honestly while i enjoyed the basic valley 4 schematics it felt pretty basic, the whole cuprium line was quite fun to make

[subtle vessel]

I have my outpost making only xiranite

[mortal socket]

it doesnt have to btw

[subtle vessel]

all end-products are in the main aic

[dull island]

i need to find a way to make the xiranite stuff smaller

[dull island]

elaborate

[mortal socket]

the secret to making xiranite production smaller is using yazhen for carbon

[dull island]

yazhen

[subtle vessel]

yeah

[dull island]

can be used to make carbon?

[mortal socket]

yup

[uneven aspen]

do you have enough cuprium for that?

[subtle vessel]

yep

[shadow hound]

It seems like we need to constantly be refining the new mineral ore for sewage in order to make the new battery. But what happens when the depot is full of everything Cuprium can make?

[dull island]

are we deadass

[subtle vessel]

and it makes 2 carbon

[dull island]

ARE WE DEADASS

[mortal socket]

nope

but i didnt realize that until after i had finished building it

[subtle vessel]

refine yahzen to create 2 carbon and then shred it to make 2*2 powder

[uneven aspen]

syringe A uses 100% of cuprium of 2 SC batteries

just sell the syringe to outpost

[dull island]

wha

where

[finite latch]

just dont let it get full

[golden burrow]

it doesn't show until you do it

[mortal socket]

for some reason its not in the table

[subtle vessel]

you gotta "accidentally" discover it

[dull island]

bro

[mortal socket]

quite funny innit

[dull island]

omg bro

so what you refine the plant

[subtle vessel]

just like some minecraft recipes

[mortal socket]

and yazhen planter footprint is also way smaller

[finite latch]

doesnt the damn refinery production formula show it

[golden burrow]

ye just do like normal

[mortal socket]

yazhen into refinery = 2 carbon

[golden burrow]

also it produces 2 carbon

[subtle vessel]

not until you discover it

[golden burrow]

instead of the normal 1

[dull island]

just yazhen no water?

[finite latch]

no i mean you walk up to a refinry and check the autoproduction formula

[mortal socket]

yeah regular refinery

[subtle vessel]

you need water for the planting

[golden burrow]

yazhen jincao works

[mortal socket]

not the water version

[subtle vessel]

but refinery doesn't need

[finite latch]

any autoplantable wuling thingy

[dull island]

I WANT TO DIE

IM GOING

TO CRY

[golden burrow]

pls dont actually die

[dull island]

omg bruh

[subtle vessel]

i wouldn't remember anymore since it's been a long time i discovered it myself

[mortal socket]

my current xiranite blueprint is 27x16

[paper wadi]

Anyone got a shared blueprint for sky king flats lv3? I don't want to redo everything manually for yazhan A

[dull island]

and you only need

bruh

[golden burrow]

have you checked #1461542035617091681

[paper wadi]

good point, ty

[subtle vessel]

my entire plot is just 4x xiranite production

[dull island]

you got that on hand

[mortal socket]

ye

[dull island]

bro i have

[finite latch]

i hat that the only 12 sc batt bluprint has th coppr stuff hardbuilt into it

[dull island]

12 things turning sandleaf into carbon

[mortal socket]

EFO01o083ee4I966IieO NA code btw

[dull island]

NA 🥀

you got just like a pic of da mf

[finite latch]

lik the previous version had th copper stuff seperate but then thy updated it and integrated the copper in there

[golden burrow]

you need the sewage and that's the only way to get it so...

[finite latch]

i have my own copper

[paper wadi]

Remaking both my outposts for Yazhen A is a pain

[golden burrow]

delete your own and just copy the whole thing

[finite latch]

half makes the syring and half makes gear and some parts

[dull island]

why you got sandleaf as well?

[mortal socket]

you need sandleaf for the grinding unit still

[dull island]

oh yeah

[finite latch]

yeah

snadlef

[dull island]

so 1 yazhen fills the grinding unit for 1
and 1 sandleaf fills the grinding unit for 2?

[mortal socket]

sandleaf is the pillar of all complex manufacturing lol

[subtle vessel]

mine is just 14x15 (excluding the planting, shredding, and water pipes)

[mortal socket]

yazhen makes carbon, sandleaf makes powder

[golden burrow]

1 xira is 2 grinding units so 2 sandleaf farms + shredder can supply 3 xira lines

[mortal socket]

combine carbon powder with sandleaf powder to make concentrate carbon

[arctic sluice]

anyone got a more compact way to make xircon? or a more optimised way. this setup uses 2 xiranite forges

[dull island]

what i ahve rn is this 4 times

[mortal socket]

xircon will use 2 xiranite forges to produce at 100% efficiency

[arctic sluice]

aha

[arctic sluice]

i may need someones blueprint or something as inspiration cus i have no idea how to optimise my layout. esp this. cus like the right side has to wrap around xd

[dull island]

how much total sandleaf planters and yazhen planters do i need for the 4 skyforges

[serene geyser]

where my copium parts in metastorage

[arctic sluice]

that looks neat, ima try build it. do u mind making it into a blueprint and send the code here if you can?

[mortal socket]

8 sandleaf and 4 yazhen

[surreal cobalt]

they removed it

[shrewd knoll]

US/EU?

[arctic sluice]

ye

[dull island]

how is it smaller then? cuz rn i have 12 sandleaf planters

[golden burrow]

i think he meant 8 planters -> 4 farms bc each farm uses 2

[mortal socket]

ye

[subtle vessel]

dont you only need 6 sandleaf and 4 yazhen?

[finite latch]

if you can make a compact and narrow xircon without any copperium id worship you

[mortal socket]

you only need 4 sandleaf productions

[shrewd knoll]

EFO01a709917oOAe8oe5e

[golden burrow]

wait yeah

[arctic sluice]

tysm

[mortal socket]

but each sandleaf uses 2 planters per production

[golden burrow]

you only need 3

[dull island]

oh so its 4 and 4?

[subtle vessel]

yeah

3 pairs

[golden burrow]

no wait isn't it 3 sandleaf farms

[shrewd knoll]

you can just remove the cuperium and replace it with a conduit

[golden burrow]

bc 2 fuels 3 xira

[mortal socket]

well technicly yeah if you bunch them up and use all the sandleaf powder

[golden burrow]

you only need 2 powder

[mortal socket]

but i cant be bothered so i just let that 1 sandleaf go to waste

[golden burrow]

fair enough

[subtle vessel]

mine even has an excess of 30 powders

[shrewd knoll]

but i build all my BP with raw ores as starters

[dull island]

so 4 yazhen and 4 sandleaf got it

ill be done in 5 billion hours

[shrewd knoll]

or very specific intermediates

[finite latch]

hm...... true......

[surreal cobalt]

1 for each sky forge, total of 4

[dull island]

yazhen is just 1 planter 1 seeder?

[subtle vessel]

yep

[finite latch]

yeah

[golden burrow]

+water

wuling plants op

[surreal cobalt]

worter

[dull island]

bruh

[subtle vessel]

wuling just built diff

[surreal cobalt]

wuling op

[jovial breach]

Yes

[mortal socket]

btw, gases when

[golden burrow]

next country probs

[jovial breach]

And they also give double carbon

[finite latch]

nxt region

gonna fart in thre

[subtle vessel]

ah yes

blighted air

[dull island]

i would assume either late wuling or next region gimmick is gases

[mortal socket]

gonna harvest sweaty perlica armpit smell

[golden burrow]

do we have info on how long wuling will be?

we know that next patch is 2 areas

[finite latch]

nop

[golden burrow]

nothing more huh

[subtle vessel]

gonna have the defender chips node with toxic gases

[finite latch]

if theres more youre probbly not llowed to talk about it

[jovial breach]

Should be until the end of this year

[golden burrow]

uhh will it be that long though?

[jovial breach]

1 region per year is the usual rate

[golden burrow]

i'm assumign each patch is like 2-3 banners

which is like 1~2 months

[finite latch]

1 banner is 2 weks

[golden burrow]

they can't drag it out that much can they

[finite latch]

they might hv som nw areas on rossis bannr or som shit

[mortal socket]

eh i doubt it

[finite latch]

cuz wtf is the mission to activate 10 electric nexus in wuling

[golden burrow]

that's a bug

[jovial breach]

They fixed it

[finite latch]

oh

[golden burrow]

it's place 4 pylons now

[finite latch]

bummer

[digital violet]

is there a way to get more stock bill savings to exchange or just have to wait like clash of clans game for it to regenerate ?

[finite latch]

also i spend lik 2-3 hours trying to gt a zipline up tot he top of th waterwheel

[golden burrow]

higher outpost lv + tower defense completed + matching liaison

[finite latch]

only to get cucked by the wheel itself

[mortal socket]

judging by how many regions valley 4 had we should have like 3-4 more zones in wuling before we go for the next region

[finite latch]

damn right we should

[shrewd knoll]

they spoiled that they will add electric nexus next patch

[finite latch]

thres still a mystreious area to th bottom lft and top right of wuling city

[mortal socket]

next patch will have new sub pac

[golden burrow]

2 areas + new outpost

+2/3 banners

[mortal socket]

this patch is on the smaller side

[digital violet]

what's matching liaison ?

[golden burrow]

when you go to the outpost screen you can assign an operator, some operators give +20% income to the outpost

[mortal socket]

also quite sad we cant dump sewage into the water supply

why cant i dump my industrial waste into the river

[shrewd knoll]

you just cant dump it at all, not even from bottle sewage into empty container

[golden burrow]

game teaching you life lessons 🙏

[mortal socket]

but what if i want to roleplay as dupont :(

[shrewd knoll]

the best thing u can do is leave around bottled sewage in the bottle on the ground

so that's technically throwing it away

[golden burrow]

i feel like the problem here is wanting to do that in the first place

[mortal socket]

also i bet inert xircon is gonna have a use in the future

[surreal cobalt]

pro tip if you're bored: you can move the AIC unit to the bottom right corner of your base and snake a tube that goes straight through the whole region to Tianjing Courtyard, where you can dump all your toxic waste in revenge for having you empty 40k units of water

[golden burrow]

but mr john endfield sir

can't you just underground pipe that

[surreal cobalt]

where's the fun in that

Wuling city has to witness the toxic waste tubes

[golden burrow]

ehh the cleanup is going to be annoying tho

clearing the pipes i mean

[mortal socket]

its all fun and games until you realize you missed a chest down there

well that was enough factory maxing for now

none of my units want the cuprium gear so i wont touch the AIC for a while

[surreal cobalt]

do you not play Laevatein

[mortal socket]

havent gotten around building her yet

i focused on avy team

[shell hinge]

I really wish we had some kind of rotating weekly special item so there would be a reason to keep building factory stuff

[mortal socket]

that'd be fun

[subtle vessel]

wait,, you can dump sewage?

or is that the inert xircon?

[golden burrow]

you can't anymore

[mortal socket]

you cant dump either sadly

[golden burrow]

bugfixed

[jade temple]

it was feature not a bug 😄

[tame spire]

Genuine question,

How do yall dothis factory stuff? I'm still stuck with my simple one specific thing because I can't get this wrapped around my head for the LIFE of me 😭

[shell hinge]

Also an editor mode so I can design stuff without tearing up my current build

[mortal socket]

autism

[wary vine]

I'm trying to understand why my Forge of the sky isn't getting enough carbon from this :/
EDIT: nvm now it is getting enough.. maybe somethign wasn't connected before <.< i'm getting 60 xiranite per minute so i should be fine

[golden burrow]

we all start somewhere, you can try doing the aic simulations if you haven't

[subtle vessel]

https://enka.network/endfield/aic/

this is what i use compared to what they have on endfield tools

[scarlet cipher]

Oh mb, wrong channel

[surreal cobalt]

6767 uid is brutal

[tame spire]

I have, but it still overloads my brain

[shell hinge]

I'll keep that in mind I guess, but rn the controls suck

[mortal socket]

[shrewd knoll]

its because it needed to ramp up to max capacity before it started working because you have 1 extra refinery and 1 extra planter

[subtle vessel]

it's almost the same as using the pc, just gotta get used to some of the different controls which isn't a lot anyways

[shell hinge]

Endfield also has bad factory controls lol

[subtle vessel]

what's nice is that it lists down your rates and consumption live instead of having to wait for 10mins

[golden burrow]

mmmmm how do i say this, do you want to keep trying? or would you rather just use blueprints

no shame in that

[shell hinge]

Oh I never relied on that anyway. I just compute throughput manually

[golden burrow]

sometimes there are things you just aren't made for

[shell hinge]

Endfield has extremely simple throughput right now

[jade temple]

What i did was that i copy pasted blueprint but manually piece by piece so i know how it works and can adjust or change it anytime

[subtle vessel]

yeah same but being able to offload that computation so you can focus on smth else is nice

[tame spire]

I've tried both. I genuinely just suck at this

Not sugarcoating it I'm just ass

[shell hinge]

The hardest its gotten is 1+1 lmao, not worth the effort of using a website

[subtle vessel]

that's not the main reason why you're using the site tho 😭

[golden burrow]

do you still want to try?

[subtle vessel]

you're mainly using the site so you dont have to brick your current setup while still trying to build your next setup

[mint idol]

What does max production look like for 1.1 Wuling? For example V4 is a combo of 18 batteries, 18 BuckA, and 24 of choice item

[tame spire]

Yeah, I'm still refusing to give up. But my mental is currently down after spending 4 hours (plus the entirety the games time since launch) trying to figure it out today.

Plus immediately getting called "Weak" for it in general by someone didn't help

[golden burrow]

so, i think a decent chunk of ppl you see are "good" just have experience from other factory games
if you really can't wrap your head around this one, you can try starting over with other simpler factory games, there's a bunch free on for example itch.io

but also take a break first

you can't do anything if you're exhausted

[subtle vessel]

^

[golden burrow]

don't worry the rewards stuff isn't going anywhere

[surreal cobalt]

this should be around 95+% efficiency, i don't think you can get better

[mint idol]

Does your factory have the ability to alternate between the 2 types of components?

[subtle vessel]

once you stock up on components, you can even swap it over for more yazhen syringe

[surreal cobalt]

of course, cuprium component setup takes very little space

[tame spire]

I will ask tho which region is more important to develop first

[golden burrow]

@mint idol you can refer to this if you wanna do comps

[golden burrow]

arguably wuling but you kinda can't do anything in wuling if you don't have valley set up so...

[tame spire]

Yyyyeah that makes sense

[mint idol]

Valley 4 setup is so much easier than Wuling setup

[tame spire]

If I was to start from scratch, give me a basis to start from

Or smth to work towards

-# (If you can, of course.)

[golden burrow]

okay

so the goal of the factory stuff is basically to make stuff to sell to outposts

so you should look at your outposts

see what they're buying

make those so you can sell to them

when you've sold enough, they'll level up and they can buy new stuff

so you look at the new stuff and make those

rinse and repeat until you get to max level

[tame spire]

Screenshotting this, arguably the most simplified explanation tysm

[golden burrow]

np

[tame spire]

I need to make buck capsule b

[golden burrow]

alright

now you can either look at the database

you can see the production chain there

or you can use this https://endfieldtools.dev/factory-planner/recipes/ if you'd prefer a website

[jaunty valley]

Does anyone have the Valley 4 AIC blueprint for money farm with exploration level < 11

[tame spire]

Need Ferium capsulesand Buckflowers

[golden burrow]

okay, do you have your mines set up for the ferrium?

[tame spire]

Yeah I defo do, got an unholy amount of Ferium Ore

[shell hinge]

Just use a maxed out bp and let it run below capacity

[golden burrow]

how about the buckflowers? do you know how to make an infinite farm?

[tame spire]

Got the blueprint for it

[golden burrow]

that's fine

so you have the ferrium and the buckflower

now you make the production line

see what buildings you need and in what order

place them down and connect with belts

(don't worry about ratios for now, just make it work even if it's not efficient)

[arctic sluice]

anyone got an optimised new xiranite forge setup?

[shell hinge]

Nothing changed about forges, you just get more of them

[tame spire]

I think I got it working

[unkempt estuary]

my PAC is safe now

[autumn shoal]

guys is this good for both power thermal and producing new battery

should i use this blueprint

[arctic sluice]

i meant layout. i got two but i want to make them smaller

[shell hinge]

You do not need 6600 power. Also be careful about feeding sewage from cuprium directly into effluent reactors

[serene geyser]

finally done with moving all wuling stuff to the main hub, took this much place
5.5 syringe + 11 batteries + 6 copium components
would think about metastorage use tomorrow

[proud flax]

therotically which one more productive, 6 shredding units on one grinding unit or 6 shredding units on 2 grinding units 3x3

[shell hinge]

I don't think any recipe uses 6 belts of shredded items

[warm pewter]

Yo guys, is there a way to buy some batteries or something? I kinda returned to the dead base and all of my stuff is down so i wonder if there is a easy way to turn it back on

[jovial breach]

Not sure what you mean by that

[shell hinge]

No

Use originium if you must

[warm pewter]

Well the thing is i kinda run out of it xd

[golden burrow]

nice, so uhh next up will probably be ratios, i don't really know what's a good way to explain this so i'll just give you a problem to solve
every production facility in the game demands a certain amount of input and outputs a certain amount... by default this is "1 unit per 2 seconds", however some demands more for example the moulding unit and the filling unit... so your next task is to figure out how many belts you need to satisfy their input demands

[warm pewter]

i didnt check my base so now im mining like a basic bozo xdddd

[shell hinge]

Time to start bombing ore

And keep a stash of batteries in another region

[arctic sluice]

turn off everything. make a bunch of power banks, put originium in them

manually

dont ask me how i know

[warm pewter]

I get it its a canon event i feel like

There is always that one time you miss something :D

[golden burrow]

HE YEARNS FOR THE MINES

[warm pewter]

Yea, im gonna do that now

idk why didnt i did it before i had to find out the hard way :D

im soo stupid its crazy

[unkempt estuary]

chat, for sc wuling battery is the 6/min the most we can make?

[golden burrow]

12

[unkempt estuary]

ah

[golden burrow]

480 orig

[heavy nova]

Anyone have some good thermal bank blueprints for variable power output yet?

Using the new batteries?

[unkempt estuary]

6/min for each packaging unit I guess

then I need to do 6/min for now. I'll go for 12/min once I finish with gear components

[golden burrow]

uhh do you mean like battery edging stuff? i'm not familiar with it but don't you need to tailor your setup according to your power usage?

check DIGE?

[rough gazelle]

from the maker of bluetooth
introducing
pipeless pipe

[heavy nova]

I don't know, I simply checked the top results in the first 3-4 blueprint sites that come up in google.

[formal minnow]

pipeless pipe

[rough gazelle]

im inferior

[heavy nova]

omg, DIGE looks insane.

[formal minnow]

[heavy nova]

This might be what I need, lol

[golden burrow]

uhh happy to help?

[heavy nova]

DIGE might not be updated for SC batteries yet.

[golden burrow]

probs give it a few days

1.1 dropped like 3 days ago

[heavy nova]

Nah, it is...just gotta learn how to use it.

[golden burrow]

well

good luck

[uneven aspen]

😔 i think im done with 1.1 aic for now

[tame spire]

So I now that I got this working do I just let it run overnight and allat?

[uneven aspen]

yup calculated 39k in profits so im in the profit zone

[tame spire]

Cause I'm defo getting buckpills now

[golden burrow]

yep

just check in every day to sell

[jovial breach]

The issue is how are you gonna sustain that

[uneven aspen]

? its 100% sustained

not even using metatransfer

[jovial breach]

Dont tell me you stay on dijang all the time

[uneven aspen]

nope but i refill every 4 days

same day i go collect rare growths

idm a chore every 4 days

[tame spire]

I guess that's it for now then

Just gotta wait

[jovial breach]

Well sure i guess if you have the time

[uneven aspen]

literally takes 1-2 minutes not a big deal

just tedious i guess

[golden burrow]

but it's a gacha game

tedium is the gameplay

😔

[jovial breach]

No i make factory to have less work

Not to have more works

[uneven aspen]

i have surplus of hc valley batteries so im putting them to use

[heavy nova]

@golden burrow You got any other fantastic endfield sites?

Thanks again btw

[golden burrow]

uhh

open endfield map

warfarin wiki

talos wiki

endfield dev

that's all off the top of my head

oh talos pioneers

endaxis if you can read chinese

[heavy nova]

That map looks like a straight upgrade from endfieldtools.dev

[golden burrow]

it's more accurate but lacks user screenshots

which is your preference if better

[heavy nova]

AHhh, yeah, those are useful.

[tame spire]

Tysm lemon!!!

[golden burrow]

np

[vestal grove]

Heyo any numbers on what's the highest income on wuling now? Only got 12 sc and 6 med A's

[golden burrow]

that's it if you don't wanna do comps

you can add a meds C (with the leftover ferrium + metatransfer) but it doesn't really add to your income

12 sc + 6 A buys out the outpost already

[wary vine]

Ty for the info, currently planning out my outposts right now

[uneven aspen]

someone shared it earlier and i've been using it for reference

[golden burrow]

there's an updated one with the 3 comps calculations

one sec

[vestal grove]

Big thankies

[golden burrow]

here

[jade fractal]

I have all ore mines in Valley IV and a 6 HC batter + 18 buck A production in my AIC, is there an optimal layout for the other PAC's?

[uneven aspen]

ah nice, i think those charts by haruna are very useful

[golden burrow]

if there were mods we could've gottem them pinned honestly

😔

[golden burrow]

uhh you want 18 HC + 18 buck/citr A, so you only need to add 2 more hc production lines

[uneven aspen]

you have more than enough space, generally just make 18 HC battery 18 buck/citrome A and you're good

I shoved 18 citrome A and all the sandleaf farms into my main AIC

then just 1 HC battery farm at each outpost

then sub aic in each outpost do whatever

bombs, citrome C, orignimum crusts etc

[vital haven]

So question, is there a way to toggle Refining units in Wuling off of Cuprium and back to regular materials?

[golden burrow]

button on the right up corner

the water drop one

[vital haven]

And if I'm a filthy console pleb?

[golden burrow]

uhhh is the ui that different?

[golden burrow]

ye that one

[uneven aspen]

turned on my controller and same area

[wooden current]

They finally added an easy fix for having no energy left on the CAI or is still annoying as in the 1.0?

[vital haven]

Yeah it won't actually let me select that button. Now, there's a distinct possibility I'm stupid and am just missing it.

[golden burrow]

🤔

look at the bottom of your screen for button hints?

idk

[crimson inlet]

making SC wuling batteries 💀

[vital haven]

There we go thar did it. Was hidden in the sub sub menu.

[uneven aspen]

never used a controller in this game but yeah im struggling to to activate

it's not even inthe more action menu

found it

it's this thing

[wary vine]

for @uneven aspen and @vital haven

You have to press this button ^^

[vital haven]

Yeah it's annoyingly hidden

[serene geyser]

how much stocks syringe A gives

[vital haven]

Thanks for the help!

[uneven aspen]

had a feeling controller will be bad

because keyboard you can't rebind anything

keeps saying this bind not allowed

[wary vine]

22 so slightly less than LC batteries

[golden burrow]

132 per min assuming fully efficient production

22 ea yes

[paper mountain]

Best I can do for now. But still brain storming ways on making this more compact. 27x36 SC Battery.

[serene geyser]

took 10 xira + 10 copium for gearing hence why calced if have enough stocks/h
38k seems good enough

[golden burrow]

in case you need it

[formal minnow]

I've got my ratios all wrong damn it

[thin hearth]

oh god

[mental scarab]

Hello, does anyone know what is the current yield limit of ores in Wuling plz ?

[serene geyser]

ty

[golden burrow]

480 orig 90 ferro 120 cope

also 120 xira

[silver creek]

Hey yall. I cannot find a blueprint that works for maxed out wuling that includes cuprium/xiranite components, any help?

[uneven aspen]

that because mixing cuprium and xiranite components means changing syringe A and SC battery inputs to be shared with them.

gonna think it's going to take a while for someone to make it all optimized

[mental scarab]

Xiranite ?

[golden burrow]

yes

[mental scarab]

Okay thx !

[nova thicket]

managed to fit everything 12/min SC battery 6/min syringe A in Wuling, outpost base empty

[wary vine]

could anyone explain to me how to proceed to make an SC battery from here? :/ aren't those two things supposed to react?

[static isle]

technically 36x24, but the 24th is literally that one final output line so for all intents and purposes it's 36x23

[willow beacon]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1463923898989936783/1482414454636544000/4amsof4tb1pg1.gif

[jolly shore]

Unless I did my math wrong, we should be able to produce 12/m SC and 6/m Yaz A and still have 30/m Ferrium left over, but my factory died an hour before I woke up. None of my yield and usages are mismatched so I can't find out why it died

[silver creek]

i mean, there are blueprints where you trade out on cbatteries for components, but i cannot get them to get placed

[nova thicket]

cuprium overload?

[jade fractal]

What's the power usage of Valley IV with no defensive buildings and 18 HC + 18 buck A production

[jolly shore]

nice, I didnt consider to reverse the direction of the crucibles

[tame olive]

Oh this is clean

[jolly shore]

I checked, but I produce and spend 120/m cuprium by making yaz A

[real marsh]

Yo lads

Did they add a Flip feature?

[shrewd knoll]

flip would not work with how the structure behave

[real marsh]

fair

anyway who wants to see a monstrocity?

*its not at 100% production yet, need to place down 1 more xiranite fluid production :)

Behold

can i make it smaller. maybe

Do i know or do i want to. no

[wary vine]

so that i understand well.. to make xircon i have to setup 3 Reactor crucibles? 😭

[real marsh]

:)

In fact

you need 5 total

2 for xiranite fluid. 2 for sewage 1 for xiron

[unkempt estuary]

Found this layout on youtube, liked it and immediately copied it.

[real marsh]

The xiranite fluid you can combine with your med production

[real marsh]

it looks nice. i like my own cobbled mess

[unkempt estuary]

its a 6/min sc battery line

[real marsh]

So is mine. i just produce/process the liquids elsewhere

[unkempt estuary]

ah cool

[real marsh]

Oh big tip

you can proces the sewage outside AIC area

and with the new "underground" pipes its hella nice

[unkempt estuary]

I can carry the sewage outside using the conduits that I know

[static isle]

5 for optimal

[unkempt estuary]

kinda godsend but they really need to introduce something to track the lines

[static isle]

2 xiranite -> 2 effluent -> 1 zircon

[real marsh]

Wel there kinda is. open the map

[unkempt estuary]

in the map its okay, but inside AIC they dont show

[real marsh]

thats why i said Kinda

[unkempt estuary]

I mean they show where the connected thingy is but I need the line

[real marsh]

what they transport you mean?

[unkempt estuary]

no I mean the connection

[real marsh]

im stupid

[unkempt estuary]

and also what they transport

clean water as blue line, dirty water as black line

that'd be nice

[real marsh]

Yhea that be nice

[unkempt estuary]

I'l write that in the next survey

[real marsh]

anyway time to make it 6/m sc bat production instead of 3/m (missing 1 xiranite fluid per second)

[real crescent]

bit late reply, but maybe try moving the final crucible into the left open space, and then trickling the rest into its place?

[warm pewter]

if i use blue rigs on originium will it mine more ore then using the green one?

[real marsh]

no

[jolly shore]

It's not compressed but it lets me feed lines elsewhere, just mirrored it on the other end. The xircon goes off to my battery fields. Don't ask why I'm bottling sewage.

[wary vine]

Mhh i get it 🙁 this is hard 😭

[real marsh]

You cant discard sewage so its just a bottle of sewage you have in your inventory

[jolly shore]

😋

[paper mountain]

Thanks, I'll give it a try! So far, it's outputing correctly at 6 per min.

[jolly shore]

maybe I want to have bottles of sewage in my inventory

[hexed nebula]

You can have a 12/min yield of sc batteries right? And that would get your ferrium to 60/90
What do you do with the leftover ferrium? Yazhen c?

[shrewd knoll]

make 60k sentries

[hexed nebula]

So true

[real marsh]

Anything you want

[jolly shore]

i make bottles and misc stuff with mine for side projects, you could make yaz c but it would be really slow

[shrewd knoll]

its probably not worth the power

[hexed nebula]

12 sc bat / 6 yazhen a enough to outspeed outpost production?

[jolly shore]

probably 1.5/m yaz c, a pittance

[dreamy stratus]

anyone know whos blueprints have lowest power usage? I saw some that have over 4k power usage meanwhile other only had 3k+
for wuling 1.1

[lusty violet]

yes

[static isle]

usually BP don't differ in power usage since you're placing the same facs either way

it's the layout

[dreamy stratus]

ah I see, I figured it was something like that or man have alot of turrets and ziplines. thanks

[jolly shore]

always take turrets off your power lines, a battery keeps them fed for a while

people also sometimes overuse protocol stashes, especially when your hub has 14 loaders

[real marsh]

i love protocol stashes

You cant stop me from usign them

:3

Anyway new wulling max output achieved

• i know you can do stuf with meta transfer but i cba

[brazen seal]

guyw how many originium shredders can u have max in wuling

for batteries

[paper wadi]

it's 30/min each, wuling has 480/min max, so 16

[solid python]

16 🤔

[lapis crane]

me when using this abomination just to use 1500/h ferrium

[brazen seal]

thas enough for 4 batteries then?

[static isle]

just 2

[paper wadi]

two battery factories yea

but you should be on the newer SC battery anyways

[jolly shore]

What do you guys regional transfer now that things maych a little better?

[lapis crane]

@real marsh and it is a catalyst for bigger catastrophe

[jade fractal]

I'm at 4.5k power with this, I heard people say I could have 18 hc instead of my current 12, am I doing something wrong power-wise?

[paper wadi]

you're about right, im at 5.4k power used but im making Buck C too

[jade fractal]

Thank you

[cedar phoenix]

when we say we do 18 HC, we talk only about the production, not the gain

[jolly shore]

gross vs net yield

[cedar phoenix]

yep

[subtle vessel]

I just realized but aren't you spending more cuprium than what you're mining?

[paper wadi]

you can't sustain 12, you run out of cuprium or sewage yea

[crimson inlet]

peak factory , every part of the SC Wuling Batteries compliments each other, the excess sandleaf production in the xirenite line for the extra 1 dense originum in the battery line...

2 other excess lines of sandleaf powder is for the delivery depot

the only thing that doesn't compliment is sewage...

[surreal cobalt]

i am, because i'm running a 100% efficiency cuprium component farm alongside everything else

im also spending more Xiranite than i produce. i stocked up 57k of each while i was leveling from 2 to 3 at Sky King Flats, so they're still getting depleted with the current build. when i start running out of reserves for both i'll halt the component production to stabilize again

[static isle]

why are you building them as separate units tho

so much wasted space

[subtle vessel]

ah aight, i was designing mine and then realized that cuprium ores capped at 120 so i was wondering how you got yours to be 12/6/6

thanks

[crimson inlet]

So that I can see where everything can go

[static isle]

you should really start learning compact designs once you get further down

[subtle vessel]

but like

what are you gonna do with the "unwasted" space?

[static isle]

build more shit

[subtle vessel]

already max rates

[paper wadi]

2 of my valley 4 outposts are empty

[static isle]

also
building compact self sustaining units mean you can simply scale them up later once more shit unlocks

[real crescent]

more realistically youll replace them anyways

[wary scarab]

it's ok, all that extra space is for people like me that would rather build an abomination than rebuild something they already built

[pulsar cypress]

Its an art.. °-°)b
Abstract art..

[static isle]

oh god my eyes

[subtle vessel]

wtf lmaooooo

[tall stirrup]

Extra space? TRANSPORT BELT

[static isle]

draw a dick with it

[tall stirrup]

already have one

*multiple

[wary scarab]

it's fascinating what happens when I have to find a way to quickly fix my old poor choices.

[warm pollen]

what a pain it was... love it!

double SC batteries, 4 forge of the sky, everything without any blueprint

[paper mountain]

I updated it. Thanks for the advice. Got it down to 27x34! Now to make the other two new mats.

[subtle vessel]

the satisfaction of doing everything by hand

[warm pollen]

now i need to go at the outpost to make Jincao Tea, because everything will break if i don't use all this cuprium...

[warm pollen]

it makes my brain melts, those byproducts and the limited throughput of the pipes...

[subtle vessel]

yeah

[warm pollen]

i can't read what i just did...

[quick axle]

its so beautiful

[warm pollen]

not the most space optimized but eh, it was fun

[subtle vessel]

every programmer ever lmao

[warm pollen]

and to make jincao tea... i just need to switch the ferrium outputs for cuprium lmao

[subtle vessel]

"i made something and was finally able to do fix the problem but i dont understand what i did"

[warm pollen]

exactly

luckily we don't have to troubleshoot out factories if we do them well enough x)

[subtle vessel]

fr

[stark osprey]

I have to ask. How long did this take to set up?

Start to finish I mean

[warm pollen]

omg it's 00:45 on my timezone.......

i started at like 23:00

so 1h40

[stark osprey]

That was quite fast than

[grand vault]

pls tell me I'm ain't the only person having these Doom day's Stashes

[warm pollen]

yup

[stark osprey]

I was doing the math for the battery backlog that I will need while redoing the entire Wuling tomorrow

[warm pollen]

i've already did some prototypes to understand the mechanics the other day so it was easy

and the xiranite production was already perfect

[stark osprey]

I need to fix mine as I wanna see how hard I can compact it

[tall thunder]

How do you increase the liquid quantity that pass thru the pipes?

[stark osprey]

The only thing I hate is that even with 4 forges of the sky you can't have a passive component line running while having enough xiranite for batteries to clear the outpost

[warm pollen]

well that was easy

[stark osprey]

Compared to the Jincao drink line I can imagine that the tea was easier

[warm pollen]

only 2 per second max.. so you need to run multiple pipes in parallel

[warm pollen]

it's the exact same, replace ferrium for cuprium lmao

i just removed the refineries

[stark osprey]

Yes and no really. This one can be ran at full power

The drink couldn't before in 1.0 and still can't

[lapis crane]

I heard they fix cuprium part from valley to wuling?

[warm pollen]

in fact, drinks can nearly run at full speed with regional transfer

bring the missing ferrium from valley IV

[stark osprey]

At most it's a 5.75 line for them

I know

[warm pollen]

but it's slow and don't even make one belt

yeah.. so with cuprium, even more STONKS

[stark osprey]

The line I got for it

[warm pollen]

wait... NOOOOOO.......... Jianco tea can't be sold in the outpost management

what the hell

[stark osprey]

Outpost lvl 4. I can sense it

[warm pollen]

scammed

[stark osprey]

They gave us the drink for lvl 2 after all

[lapis crane]

I hate how to actually use that ferrium without making anything problematic in future
I need to use this abomination just for making it exact match of what output it is (25/60)

I need to replace protocol stash to loader to save my battery

[tall thunder]

Whats the button shortcut for connecting Conduit pipes? during Top View mode using controller?

[warm pollen]

it's me or yazhen syringe are made exactly like tea but with yazhen instead of jincao? so there is no reason to not let us sell jincao tea

[subtle vessel]

Has always been the case

[solid python]

They'll probably let us sell it at level 4.

[warm pollen]

yeah but it makes no sense.. we can't sell the produce of one but it works for the other..

[warm pollen]

yeah but same ressource, same amount, so same price?...

maybe they forgot

[solid python]

I maxed out the Jincao one without knowing, so now I have a bunch of tea lying around.

[warm pollen]

it's a good healling item x)

[stark osprey]

Not really. Remember that the same is for the syringe C and drink but the drink is at lvl 2. Going by the pattern so far lvl 4 will have the tea and whatever new item we will get access to selling next patch

[warm pollen]

i use fluffed jincao powder idk if it's still the best

[stark osprey]

The drink and tea are superior since they look like gas grenades

The best reason to make those things

[subtle vessel]

I... never thought of that..

[warm pollen]

i think i'd prefer to sell nice tea to the stockade instead of syringe... just a preference... for commercial reasons

[stark osprey]

That's what I thought the Jincao drink was at 1st when I saw it

[subtle vessel]

Tbf, I am also a Jincao user

[formal minnow]

I just spent an hour trying to work out why my SC yield was half what it should be only to find the answer was the equivalent of a missing semicolon

[subtle vessel]

But I just never thought they looked like grenades

[formal minnow]

I had a pipe splitter instead of a converger

[stark osprey]

It happens to the best of us mate

[rain schooner]

how many batt fac do you guys have going?

[warm pollen]

never saw them as grenades.. but god i'd love to taste it

[subtle vessel]

Mine's worse, I used an item splitter instead of a pipe splitter

[stark osprey]

Aloe Vera like taste is what I feel like it would be

[subtle vessel]

Jincao doesn't look like Aloe Vera tho

It looks like fluffier dandelions

[stark osprey]

No but the juice itself looks exactly like the bottles of aloe vera to me

[subtle vessel]

But that green does look like Aloe Vera

Yeah lmao

[brazen seal]

whas the best turret for aic defense?

[shrewd knoll]

the fire

[subtle vessel]

Burn them all

[hollow egret]

Anyone got an idea for the maximum amount of cuprium you can be making right now?

[stark osprey]

Hanz is on the job

[subtle vessel]

120

[hollow egret]

oh thats annoying

[subtle vessel]

Yeah

[warm pollen]

idk what to do with all those buses

[subtle vessel]

Can't even make 12/6/6

[rain schooner]

how many batt facilities do you guys have going?

[subtle vessel]

2

[rain schooner]

how much xircon are you making a min?

[warm pollen]

well.. batteries are only made with the byproduct.. the problem is with the gear crafting components.. can't run syringe and components at the same time

[hollow egret]

So i just gotta choose between gear and money thats really irritating

[tall thunder]

How do you sell the 02 Wuling battery?

[rain schooner]

ah this is what i was trying to fgure out....so you have to shut off one or the other

[stark osprey]

Lvl 3 outpost is required

[subtle vessel]

I already logged off so I can't check rn but I have two prod lines of xircon, 1 for each battery

[rain schooner]

we got 2 more forges and its still not enough because of the new items

[stark osprey]

I already can't wait for the 2nd Wuling outpost for extra space

[subtle vessel]

You need more space?

[hollow egret]

what kind of spaghetti are you making where you need more space

[stark osprey]

I get that feeling after seeing what everyone is doing with the new battery lines

[warm pollen]

is it the maximum we can do?

[stark osprey]

I would make one myself but I can't as I need the damned cuprium components

[shrewd knoll]

just make originium cubes and xircon separately, its going to upgrade to a HC later on so no point in making it a contained block

[subtle vessel]

Wuling plot is bigger than V4. It's 80x80 compared to V5's 70×70. It's bug enough that after I completed my main AIC, I realized I had so much soace I could put my Sub PAC setup in it as well

[rain schooner]

so for the xircon....im currently at 60 a min and I have 4 facilities running. Would it be better to just make two Xircon effluent fac and attach them to the reactor crucible?

[unkempt estuary]

u can put control port on gear, then run syringe production continuously.

that way u produce 5k or 10k gear comps every day by resetting it once every day and on the other hand your syringe production goes mostly uninterrupted.

[distant summit]

How many of the red stones can i put in the depot upload before the usage gets too high

[subtle vessel]

4

[rain schooner]

this sewage stuff is really a pain in the arse

[warm pollen]

i think i'm ok with 10k cuprium components and 23k xiranite components

[rain schooner]

how much xircon are yall making a min?

[subtle vessel]

It's fun because it challenges players to have to do smth about the byproducts

[rain schooner]

is 60/min the max?

[hollow egret]

I have honestly completely forgotten about the existence of control ports but yeah thats defo doable

[stark osprey]

Huh. I didn't measure the Wuling one honestly. That is actually good to know

[subtle vessel]

I just learned it yesterday as well

[stark osprey]

Also made me question if it would be possible to fit 4 forges of the sky in the sub aic

[uneven aspen]

you can fit 6 forges for xiranite in the sub aic

[rain schooner]

you can....i did.

[sweet mantle]

Is this good?

[subtle vessel]

Yep, my setup is 30x30, the sub pac is 50x50

[rain schooner]

What is the max amount of xircon I can make a min? ANYONE!? lol

[shrewd knoll]

you can fit 3 in 25x50 with space for the AIC

so 6 is easy

[tall thunder]

[warm pollen]

prettyyyy

[subtle vessel]

Should be 6 if I'm mentally computing it correctly

[warm pollen]

but you need 2 full belts of carbon for a forge of the sky :/

[rain schooner]

6 xircon a min? Are you sure? Im at 60 right now

[brazen seal]

can u connect underground pipes o any input or just the outlet pipe?

[subtle vessel]

Mb, I meant 30

[rain schooner]

inlet has to be connected to outlet

[tall thunder]

The bus is too long for output

[rain schooner]

ok im at 60...must be doing something right

[subtle vessel]

5:20 = 10s
10*6=60s=1m
5*6=30

[brazen seal]

how much cuprium does a yazhen need /m

[tall thunder]

[subtle vessel]

A 6/m yazhen syringe a needs 4 cuprium being refined

[brazen seal]

so like 26 cuprium / min?

[formal minnow]

ok now my factory is operating at 7/8 efficiency

idk what's wrong

[tall thunder]

oops

[brazen seal]

btw what does pipe converger do

[subtle vessel]

Should be 120/min

[tall thunder]

Merge multiple pipes into one output?

I used it on my sewage

[brazen seal]

fair whats he max amoun of pipes in one line

or just liquid

[crude nebula]

3/s

[tall thunder]

3 to 1 output?

[crude nebula]

Yeah

[brazen seal]

so u cant pu muliple convergers in one pipe line

[crude nebula]

You can, but it'll clogged

[brazen seal]

also needs to be same liquid right

[crude nebula]

Yes

[tall thunder]

Yeah it probably clog if they take turns

what are u putting?

[rain schooner]

the devs need to be careful with this aic stuff man. The sewage stuff is just a pain and god forbid the system goes down. Takes a bit to get it back up

[glad needle]

you could press x, and press f

[brazen seal]

u guys are only using one gearing facory?

[formal minnow]

there needs to be a way to dispose of excess factory products

[subtle vessel]

There is a way to get rid of excess sewage

[formal minnow]

other than just using a shitload of protocol stashes

[tall thunder]

I just drop them on the floor

[cedar phoenix]

the easiest way is to not producing it, that way you don't need to dispose of it

[tall thunder]

Game keep putting it on my backpack

[lunar abyss]

suppose I have to switch on/off a lot of item control ports at once. all of them use the same item. Any way of automating that process?

[rain schooner]

my stuff broke down this morning cuz I had 1 too many facilities and I had to run around and reconnect stuff just to get rid of excess sewage.....

like at least let us put it in bottles or something

[subtle vessel]

You can

[rain schooner]

you cant....i tried

[lunar abyss]

you literally can

[cedar phoenix]

you can batch "on/off" factories at least.. but I don't think you can do that with item control

[subtle vessel]

I literally have a prod line of sewage bottles

[rain schooner]

if theres sewage in a crucible and its capped, you cant move it out

[formal minnow]

well, you can get rid of sewage with a water treatment unit

[proud crow]

Where is the mistake here ? The thingy to make batteries isnt on 100% efficiency

[rain schooner]

I know but thats not what I want to do....i had to reconnect a bunch of stuff just to get rid of excess

@formal minnow

I should be able to throw it in a bottle from the crucible

[subtle vessel]

Move it to a filling unit

Then put bottles there

[lunar abyss]

it needs two xircon affluent, not 1

[rain schooner]

youre missing the point

I still would have to connect it to something else

[subtle vessel]

I might be ye

[rain schooner]

im trying to prevent that

[cedar phoenix]

can't you just delete the thing that contains the sewage ?

[rain schooner]

lol

[proud crow]

Dayum its 1:29 guess im gonna sleep at 4 fixing everything lol

[crude nebula]

just reuse the sewage man

[proud crow]

Yeah mb i thought it was one 1 didnt see
So it means that battery alone uses 2 forges ?
We have 4 forges right ? What do they need to be used on ?

[lunar abyss]

1 battery uses 2 forges yea

[lunar abyss]

2 batteries at max efficiency

[crimson inlet]

you only need 2 ferrium shredders and 4 Xircon thingy lines for 2 SC bat lines

[rain schooner]

youre missing the point Im making. Its fine to be able to reuse it but if your system goes down, like mine did this morning, I had to reconnect a bunch of pipes to get rid of excess sewage. I SHOULD BE ABLE TO just go to the crucible that has excess sewage and throw it in bottles to jump start the system

[pseudo lichen]

anyone have issues with when entering selection mode it sometimes just crashes the game?

[willow beacon]

does anyone have a 12/min SC wuling battery blueprint? i already have 2/s sewage being pumped elsewhere

[proud crow]

We do batteries only ???
No more gears ?

[slim moat]

well as just shill my own thing: https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1482530064620064870

[lunar abyss]

you can do gears if you like but if you aren't careful you will clog the battery production with sewage

[rain schooner]

literally happened to me

[formal minnow]

I can't figure out why my factory is running at 7/8 efficiency

[lunar abyss]

let me explain what I did

[rain schooner]

is the new gear even worth producing? Im assuming tang tang uses some of the new ones

[proud crow]

So what happens if i need components ?

[rain schooner]

and maybe rossi will

[lunar abyss]

I am typing

[crimson inlet]

has DIGE updated for the SC bats?

[lunar abyss]

wait

[shrewd knoll]

6x Xiranite sub AIC done

[crude nebula]

idk why yours clogged, buy mine is fine with this setup

[rain schooner]

6? you mean 4?

[crude nebula]

all it takes is 1 sewage from cuprium too

[shrewd knoll]

its for 6, i can just plug 2 more in when they become available

[crude nebula]

the rest goes to treatment

[rain schooner]

dont you run through xiranite super fast having 2 pipelines to one crucible

or do you only have 1 battery plant running

[willow beacon]

wtf is your depot setup lol

how do you have that sandwich

[crude nebula]

i have 2 SC production running since 6 hours ago

nothing clogged in this part

[slim moat]

theres an upgrade that gives you a second depot thing

[willow beacon]

oh shit i did not know i had that

fire

[rain schooner]

is that it? Do you have anything else running that requires xiranite? I feel like having 2 pipes with the liquid xiranite will make you run out super fast

[subtle vessel]

It takes 120 xiranite/m iirc

[lunar abyss]

so I have 4 cuprium refineries connected directly to 4 reactor crucibles used to mix liquid xiranite and sewage. I also made sure that my local depot has 0 excess cuprium and xiranite. The cuprium gets refined and into the stash, that part is done.

Now in the gearing section I have a separate cuprium refinery and a xiranite port. If I turn that on, since my local depot cuprium and xiranite is 0, it throttles the battery production cuprium and xiranite, so by extension the sewage production is throttled too, and it doesn't clog

[subtle vessel]

Which is the only thing you're using it for anyways

[crude nebula]

mine is fine

i know it says 0, but it so balance that can't be 1

[lunar abyss]

@rain schoonerthis is what you can try if you are getting clogged with sewage

[mint idol]

1.1 factories are annoying

[crimson inlet]

I love being a plumber and a manufacturer at the same time...

[crude nebula]

and electrician

[crimson inlet]

I get to make symmetrical stuff

[shrewd knoll]

just wait till the pipes carry gases too

[rain schooner]

thats not what I asked....Are you running anything else that requires xiranite?

[crude nebula]

also you are the product development

[crimson inlet]

oh boy, we GETTING STEAM WITH THIS ONE

https://tenor.com/view/factorio-gif-25793390

[proud crow]

I didnt understand a single thing 🥀💀
I think I'm giving up on aic building its just so hard when water exists

[mint idol]

Winter region going to have heating

[crude nebula]

yes, only this atm

[rain schooner]

im not getting clogged. Im just wondering if its better to have two crucibles to make the xircon

[lunar abyss]

just copy someone on youtube then 🤷 I got the cuprium refiining sewage idea from here https://youtu.be/CrnaBqvviok

[crude nebula]

i think 1 component every 50 minutes ish

[subtle vessel]

You need that to get 6/min

[proud crow]

Okay thanks !
Tbh i dont like to copy others designs but wuling just too hard icl

[lunar abyss]

I also don't but I do try to get max efficiency at first (which I did) and follow someone's design to make it not a rats nest of conveyors and pipes later lol

[crude nebula]

i mean, what else you'll need med [A] more than 50 in backpack, except selling to outpost. stole some cuprium won't affect that much with my setup of 50-minutes

[proud crow]

I did my valley iv all by myself no help and it turned out great bcuz THERE WERE NO PIPES 🥀

[lunar abyss]

I think it would be much easier if they let us select the direction of pipe inputs and outputs

the hydro refinery is horrible to use

[proud crow]

Yeah

I think im just gonna copy someone design till i actually have the courage to change it

[crude nebula]

yeah the pipe position is a bit annoying

[crimson inlet]

Wishing we have this feature rn:

[subtle vessel]

I'd say that's the challenge and fun in Wuling

[hallow summit]

Is this effect?

[brazen seal]

can 1 pump fill 3 pipes?

[crude nebula]

this is my cuprium to med [A] setup, pretty compact on my opinion

[crude nebula]

for rigs, yes

[subtle vessel]

I've played some factory mods and the devs actually say that some features that were annoying to players were intended to challenge the players to be creative with what they have

[brazen seal]

what about for refining or reactor

[crude nebula]

it possible, but no reason because of the splitter rate

[proud crow]

Okay i dont even understand the preparation to use that base am i cooked

[crude nebula]

go to AIC simulation will solve it

[lunar abyss]

just get some hc batteries from valley and produce 4k+ power

temporarily

[proud crow]

Nah like the fluid pump stuff

Im too tired rn but if i sleep now im gonna wake up with no power in wuling

[lunar abyss]

I don't think it's anything difficult, it's just setting up conduits for the water you will need

[crude nebula]

i spent 6 hours yesterday to rework both AIC

[crimson inlet]

All hail Hydro Drills and Conduits

the backbone of Wuling 🔥 🔥 🔥

[proud crow]

Yeah i didnt understand that part

[lunar abyss]

go to bed for now ig

[distant summit]

How many blue rocks can i put in the depot unloader until the usage gets too high ?

[crude nebula]

3

[proud crow]

Ehhh sure ig, thanks

(Gonna rebuild old batteries again)

[distant summit]

[brazen seal]

why is this game 90% stressing out over the factory

[crude nebula]

if you are meta transfer, you can have 3.75 or just 4 belt

because the ferrium from meta transfer is 25/m (but in hours bulk)

[distant summit]

[crude nebula]

of just meta transfered the refined ferrium that look like a box thing, it saves you 5 power in refining production

[vast iron]

i mean if you know what kind of ferrium you need you can just directly send that no?

bottles/parts wtv

[distant summit]

How many xiranite can i deport with 4 of the machines that makes xiranite

[crude nebula]

correct

[vast iron]

1 machine = 1 depot

[shrewd knoll]

120 per minute goes to mexico

[distant summit]

[winged oriole]

Hmm, anything else I should do here?

[vast iron]

you doing some magic offscreen lol

[slim moat]

you can probably squeeze it so its only as wide as the depots

[small creek]

How many ferrium bottles does metatransfer allow

[vast iron]

half as much as ferrium since 2->1

750/hour

[crude nebula]

1500

[distant summit]

Is 9 good or bad

[small creek]

interesting… i might import that instead if i really wanna save on power

[vast iron]

only interesting thing i noticed is that both dense and regular originium are 1 weight

[crude nebula]

isn't it 1 ferrium to craft 1 bottle?

[small creek]

ikr

kinda crazy

[vast iron]

2->1

[crude nebula]

welp i forgot about it lol

[vast iron]

you can get 50/min worth of orignium in dense ori an hour which is wierd, esp considering dense origocrust is 2

might be unintended

[small creek]

too bad we’re not importing dense originium tho

[vast iron]

yeah sad

[small creek]

unless, maybe we are

nah

[vast iron]

nah since LC/SC batteries are innefiicient in both xiranite and ori

[small creek]

I must perish the thought

[vast iron]

but maybe when they release HC wuling battery

we will see..

[crude nebula]

you can save 1 dense production with it tho

[vast iron]

yes but it costs you ferrium

[crude nebula]

or just import ori crust component

[vast iron]

which is more $$$

[shrewd knoll]

they will probably make you combine 2 xircon and then add the 25 ori cubes per battery

[small creek]

Watch next update be bottlenecked by xiranite again

[crude nebula]

if you already on SC, you'll have extra ferrium

[vast iron]

"dense zircon powder"

[small creek]

If you make 1.5 comp, you will need ferrium to keep up with outpost

[sonic summit]

soo how you make 1,5 lc battery again?

[solid python]

I've been metaing this until they fix it.

[small creek]

Im currently underusing by 3/min

[small creek]

split 1 xiranite into 2, sewage into 1/4

[vast iron]

L C

[small creek]

oh wait lc

[jolly shore]

What do you guys put through regional transfer? I was hoping to make some copium products in v4 but even when I do they don't register on the other side

[small creek]

well it should be easy that i actually just forgor

[sonic summit]

lc though??

[vast iron]

you cant get water over there anyways

[somber gale]

Hi please is there a really good 1.1 factory?

[small creek]

yeah mine but its really complicated

[vast iron]

its 3/2 dense ori + 1/2 xiranite

[small creek]

As much as i can ship it as an Everything, theres so many little things that i just wont

[vast iron]

so 3 originium outputs and half a xiranite one

my wuling isnt finalized yet

[jolly shore]

I guess I could tranfer yahzen and save myself a planting and seeding unit?

[small creek]

And kill your ferrium..

[vast iron]

but, why would you?

[jolly shore]

save power I suppose

[sonic summit]

OH is it still 1/4 sewage? i just do it dige style

[small creek]

if you dont split sewage, your source will slow down

Battery prod wont be affected, but syringe will for example

[jolly shore]

metastorage is free so it would save me some power and space, but I am wondering if I should transfer something else

[vast iron]

not that hard just throw in a bunch of splitters then an extra treatment

[vast iron]

you can make "infinite" yazhen but not infinite ferrium

[small creek]

The hard part is not placing an extra treatment

I did it somehow lol

[shrewd knoll]

if you just loop the by product, it will regulate itself

[sonic summit]

soo how you split this sewage from not full 6 xircon crucible ? spit into 3 line and feed 2 of them on other crucible ?

[shrewd knoll]

up to 50%

[vast iron]

depends how much your old BP uses

[shrewd knoll]

the blueprint should be using 30 per second

since thats the max

[small creek]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463037619091800227/1482370309578555544/image.png?ex=69b6b46e&is=69b562ee&hm=70e0746656bbdcc56220e1037a84b509357a8cc454a7866a2f828056a8c34439&

this is 3/4 sewage split

[shrewd knoll]

anything more and you will have to put a treatment for sewage in the blueprint

which is not advised

[jolly shore]

sure, and like you see I have bottles being made atm, though I can just switch it to ferrium and create a very slow yaz c with it or something, but I don't have much other use for it

[small creek]

22.5 in conduit, 22.5 in water treatment

[shrewd knoll]

this will regulate itself if the xiranite goes down without producing excess sewage and keep the cuprium going

[vast iron]

closed loops are underrated ngl

[small creek]

I dont understand how xircon works so ill just work with what i understand, which is splitting things in specific ratios lol

does the job 🤷

[trail mirage]

what could be the issue for this, i was offline for like 5 hours

[prime pendant]

Wuling is super frustrating bruh
Who on earth thought it was a good idea to make refining buildings include water by default
Why couldn't they make it so if the input is something that doesn't require water, just fkn switch to no water mode

I've been copying a layout from a Chinese YouTuber for hours, and when i finally added batteries to get it starting, every single refiner and planter are jammed because stupid water mode is on

[vast iron]

basically because zircon always produces half of the required sewage
and reactor has 2 inputs, so it alternates the inputs
meaning the one coming from external will clog from internal loop until it becomes an alternating pattern which balances it

[small creek]

probably offline calculation shenanigan

[small creek]

yk i understood nothing right

[vast iron]

[mighty yacht]

wouldnt it be better to just have a second line of cuprium ore for the sewage?

[small creek]

Its okay, i dont plan to understand it

Ill stick to my guns

[vast iron]

zircon recipe is 2->1 so it produces half
The input side clogs till it is the other half

[shrewd knoll]

why? a xircon only needs 30

[vast iron]

basically that

[vast iron]

the zircon recipe produces half of its required sewage

[shrewd knoll]

its a self propelled contained build with possible offset if the supply goes down

[trail mirage]

why not just treat the water

[shrewd knoll]

and you dont have to use 50 power for that treatment or space

[vast iron]

less clogged cuprium refineries to deal with

[shrewd knoll]

its like a few steps superior to just bringing 60 sewage into it

[mighty yacht]

better space eff ig

[trail mirage]

it doesnt get clogged tho

[shrewd knoll]

thats the point, it never clogs

so the cuprium keeps producing

[vast iron]

it does if your battery isnt running at 100% eff, intended or not

[shrewd knoll]

even if the xiranite goes down to use in other things

[mighty yacht]

im just dumping out the effluent instead of reusing

[vast iron]

since the waste will backlog and clog the cuprium

[vast iron]

-a billion xiranite

oh wait

effluent??

[sonic summit]

btw to make Lc battery how much dense originium powder cube used ? should i make 1 line of the cube that i share by half with xiranite gearing ?

[trail mirage]

but thats only if your battery reaches 0% no?

[vast iron]

nah, if it clogs production stops, or if youre running it at 50% cuz you dont want to use all 120/120 xiranite

[mighty yacht]

this is what im doing

[vast iron]

5 + 15 -> 1

[sonic summit]

soo 1 full line for lc to produce 1,5 ?

[shrewd knoll]

thats fine and all but problem arise if it doesnt work at 100% efficiency

all the time

so you cant really produce anything other than the battery

[vast iron]

1/3 dense ori would be 2/min

[trail mirage]

i mean i just change this pump and boom i can make cupium compoents, i dont get why people want to switch them on and off

[mighty yacht]

\

[shrewd knoll]

yea exactly, you cant produce any components at all

[sonic summit]

so 1 line dense spit into 2 for xiranaite gearing and 1 for lc battery?