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Thats friggin sick 
From the circumstances in which I encountered it, I believe it's a startup/shutdown issue
I think the main difference in our lines is that I incorporate the planters into the mix of mine xD
Once I manually unclogged it, it ran overnight just fine
which is why his concern confused me still but i think he meant under the assumption if you pull out xirang to make component like those 1 component /min setup you will run into such issue
and last one.
anyone?
It's not a problem if you maintain max battery production. Thing is, most people will want to make some components, which triggers the issue
man y'all's fluid channels look so nice
ahhh well you can, I just want to clean understanding 1st before I do Space Efficiency.
my factories look like garbage
Do it by itself
It genuinely probably makes things wayyy cleaner
lowk no idea, but hwat reason do u have ot place it outside?
cause between limited raw materials and the unhinged forge limit I kinda cobbled together what I could
space usage
this is mainly due to the order in which fluids enter the machine, however this shouldnt happen because it requires both of the loop machines to have already have been running, since outputs are full. on top of this, the outputs must have already been configued because pipes are also full. i assume it is due to the pipe between the 2 loop reactors is 1 which probably lead to the other side backed-up effluent to immediately fill the spot. its really easy to fix tho just stash and replace the sewage pipe lol
Insert 2 then out the extra lane to other
@leaden drift this mess is what im currently working with for xiranite lines xD
But im proud to say I did it all on my own

p y r a m i d
Yush
I'm aware, I would just rather avoid the issue entirely by just using priority flow. All that changes is the pipe layout so it's a very easy change to make
noice
Now that im looking at it I cld probably squish it together a bit
self sufficient
chat what the fuck is sewage
another liquid
I proud of you, cause that how we learn in Factorio way.
Cancer rocks part two part 1
but uhh thoughts guys?
Apparently the secret ingredient to making better batteries
Yey thanks xD
OOOOOOOOOOOH IT'S A BYPRODUCT
Been brute forcing it and skipping tutorials bcs its fun that way
okay this is gonna be a fun logistics challenge
its lowk both a byproduct and a reactant as well
Yeah no it doesn't work
honestly im just scared because that pipe layout is hell to implement into any compact blueprints lol
also i doubt that people will reproduce this clog in an actual blueprint considering the specific conditions needed to make it happen ngl
I feel like its wasting depot unloader space but that's just me
i had a plan until that
it's not a true factory game if making shit doesn't make other, completely unrelated shit to make other shit
byproduct logistics in my silly sci-fi gacha game
love to see it
My biggest pain in the rump rn is every time I move the conduit outlets I have to re-link them
i got so much room somewhere else

I want to be able to switch the side the pipe is on
you need the amount of total cost before you can transfer, not just one item of it.
only annoying thing about pipes is that spliters/convergers can't go on top of belts XD
only thing that pmo is the splitters cant be over the orange lanes
lemme show y'all something awesome this game should implement, one sec
Having written guides before, I've learned that people can find a way to break anything lol. I do have a fairly compact layout in the thread I made. I also believe that pipes behave well enough to merge the xircon sewage in after the 2nd reactor, letting you build symmetric designs
I think i can make it a single blue print if I squish farther beyond
wdym?
id rather just write a debug instruction with the blueprints
NGL
yeah, no, meta transfer any Curprium in V4 just doesn't work
Right now its 58 x 38 ish
@fluid fog mind if I send you a friend req so I can dm u if I have any technical questions?
It needs to be under 50 to be a single blue print
for complete loop to make LC batt?
np.
theres also a facility cap on top of that
SC bat
huh so is not intended.
take a look at this
I believe it's not, i was about to go bonker after knowing it but oh well
mb yeah thats what i meant
different game, I know, buit it's such a nice feature they should implement into endfield's belt and pipe placement
I want to squish farther beyond

at any point of belt placement, you can hit c to place an anchor, meaning that segment of belt will stay there no matter where else you tell it to go
oh i got mine at 54 x 16
meaning if you wanna have the belt go one way, then another, go that first way, anchor, then keep going
I want everything it needs produced in it
ohh I already added you
I could produce xiranite and etc other places
without having to worry about autoplacement overlapping or having to manually build individual belt/pipe sections
But I want it all in one
dyeah jus proto stash it
It loses battery priority
WAIT, ITS GONE NOW???
Right now mine prio 10 sc bats
metatransfering cuprium parts do work. I've been sustaining and it's been going up. Even screenshot before and after transfer and it increased.
is it? still present for me
are ppl rlly min maxxing battery usage?
๐ trying to
well, i've sent what i've seen so it doesnt work for me and some other people
but maybe still works for some people?
it might only work for the people who selected it before it got patched out
i dont c a point to do so
idk
yeah its gone in meta storage, but present in stockpile
so if you deselect it you won't be able to select it again for metastorage transfer
useless 
I have mine producing 3800 power atm
last night i was meta transferring 750 cuprium parts lmao
lucky to people can still transfer cuprium
then i changed it back to ferrium
yeah and its still well below 6.6 using 2 thermal power w SC
yeah ferrite is only viable.
now im scared to change it ๐
i finally solved my piping issue
didn't get to bug abuse in time 
its ok, ferrium is better based on my calcs
nvm just checked its gone nooooo
also, how r ppl getting the other stuff shgowing up
KEKW
Rip
you need to upgrade ur outpost prosperity
Damn
cuprium was never meant to come from valley 4 anyway
sadge
Lvl 3 outpost
they seem to fix it
how about for someone who's transfering originium? 
they stockpiled
We let stock bills stock up prior to update
i dont have originium deficit so i dont have to
1.25m + 20% exp buff can basically insta get 1.45m xp
I had like 120k meds
yeah we insta lvl3 once we logged in after maintenance
then got locked by quest lmao
I have so much spare originium from when I was making xiranite parts
you skip story haru? because you got to the setup way faster
The story was pretty quick imo
What do i even do with these
i do. coz i watched full story videos later when i dont have anything to do in AIC
why.
break one V4 med and make 2 battery setup instead for a while
then bring those ferrium to wuling
Make more
Storage
Number go up
Each protocol storage can store 300 protocol storages
wait so the only problem w my Xircon layout is what again? ๐ญ
If they let you put it in it
i see i see that make sense, i was surprised after i finished the story and reacall you got to the base stuff so fast
because man was the whole thing long
dis one
Oh i felt like you were losing unloader locations
also i already have the setup from the dev preview so its just actually adding sewage
instead of using a protocol stash you should use a depot loader if you're goiing to make it like that o.o;;
5 power saveddddd
YAA
I wish we had an item incinerator
YES
I have a feeling copium will lock sewage production
yea i remember, i meant more like you got to start the machine running so after the patch
took me about like 6 hour to reach the end of the story to get the core etc
yall gonna hate me for this
๐ now i have excess bottles to worry about
ITS NOT ON PURPOSE
how much water does a pump make?
1 per min
YOU POSTING IT ON PURPOSE THO
How do you have extra bottles
so u can use 1 pump for every 2 structures
so thats like enough for 2 crump parts
DONT OUT ME LIKE THAT
๐ญ
because cuprium parts are split between syringe A and cuprium gear component
can you guys still metastorage transfer cuprium stuff?
Recent reports say no
what?
nope it's gone now
r u outa space in wuling or what
not that it was efficient anyways 
you in eu server?
What are we even doing now
yup
Still ferrium?
Did they even add a new Ferrite node
asia still can do it
Shouldnโt your yield drop then
what dat
๐ญ i just spent a while making a syringe that used exactly 750 cuprium ore per hour
which yield? syringes? yup
Blue ore
yeah still ferrium, the cuprium was weight 2 so you actually lost out on bills by going cuprium, ironically
oh im dumb
Oh sorry I forgot what part of production the parts were at
so yeah did they add a new mineral bed somewhere ._.
Did we lower production? Of meds?
Or is it just cuprium
I dont think so
hr or min ๐ญ
META TRANSFER COMPARISON
yeah i lowered mine, i still got a small half section running with 2 ferrium lines at lower efficiency
per hr is crazyyy
Just copium
i love copium
bruh atp I'll let go of the Yazhen Syringe production just for the new batteries LMAO
aye someone did the big math
Ofc the reason my factory isn't on full production as it should be is because of Sandleaf

per hour, it was using about 0.208 cuprium per second so now im sad :/
my cuprium transfer will be gone? rip my component factory
We lost two lines of furry ore
But cuprium components
So its still useable
wait wdym lost ._.
Are these tradable ?! I know C is tradable
to sc batteries
Copium eats two lines
at outpost lvl 3 i think
Not S
for SC battery I only need 1 cuprium refiner for sewage if I reuse the reactor with xircon's sewage right?
probably gonna move moulding out of the sc battery and make it only produce and be stopped at the syringe part then . . .
OH YA
What about A
ASS
Yes A
mb
Two lines of sewage you lose half anyways
Can A be sold ?!
Okie
yes
are hydro mining rigs usable in valley
couldnt this mean we can just power mines with the infinite waters instead
im at lvl 2 so i cant
What are yall doing to make sure you don't overcap copium parts or run them at a deficit? Right now if I produce Syringe A 6/min I have a small deficit, but if I cut it to 3/min the parts will overcap in the depot eventually and I will stop producing sewage for my batteries.
can't use pipes, so no
damn
i would really like for them to be usable in v4 side but apparently can't have nice things 
Yeet the parts
run 4.5
There was a discussion on sewage overflow just now but under optimal circumstances that is correct
can they fix the bugs already, my jincao powder shredder producing 1 yazhen clogging my belt is crazy
yeah fuck v4
jincao shreds to two powder though
Same but still setup factory so once I'm level 3 I be ready in about 24 hours
V4 bout sq up

Any advice on how to do that? I am not really sure how to create artificial bottlenecks other than cutting belts out of the production line.
55/min (30 ore + 25 ferrium)
delivery packages of them
yeah, 1 to the protocol, 1 to the reactor, the reactor one is the one clogged
oh ignore the clog then
im on a 4.5 yazhen
wont sewage clog?
bro, you woke up to clogged belt and 0/min yazhen C, how to ignore
or am i dumb
it wont. its processed somewhere
that fast? ok
then what's happening isn't a bug, something's wrong with your machine no?
U can see water treatment there
show the setup
Net zero carbon emission
fr
im sending some, somewhere
Unless I am missing something I have the same number of resources going to gear components and syringes but I am at 4/min for some reasn
it is a bug, the shredder still showing pink powder while i produce white powder
Btw guys, how meta storage cuprium parts or gear comp? Do I have to make a certain amount of them in valley first?
uhhh v nice!
seems the game removed it in meta-storage transfer
uhhh, are you sure a pink powder didn't leak into there
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
i mean it was inefficient anyways
it is one line belt....
wait why r we meta storage transfer copium?
It'll still help T_T
yes but you could have put something else in there by accident originally o.o;;
ferrium is better is what i mean
player being smart
Hyperglyph: "oh no u don't"
i mean it was a bug originally
Them being FIA of F1 rn
if you meta-storage cuprium, then good luck creating a 1/48th (its actually like 5/48th ratio) yazhen A
what saddens me is that they made a lot of out of bounds areas inaccessible
Hello! Is this good enough for 4 Xiranite factories?
Oh i see the issue, I am producing too many bottles
Dis is in jingyu outpost?
uhh if it work it works!
Yup
messy but looks fine
also you can refine first then shred, saves you 5 power per line
But for me personally, I like it side by side
i havem mine at the core AIC area and everything fits
woah
Just make 1, then copy it 3 times to the side 
yuh
Oooooooo
ngl yall making me think of moving to outpost
Think about the benefits bro
Xiranite is a must, u make a permanent xiranite factory there, and u never touch it again
Imagine the space available in main aic area
eh true
U could draw tang tang's face there
what is the dimenions of outpost?
I forgot... but... if u want to put em side by side like me, the width of 1 xiranite line must be 12 or lower
I made 13 and it wouldn't fit in the first place
damn my layout is too big
I can share mine if u're at asia and u want it
i made it so that its self sufficient
exactly
as in no need for output
maybe i should connect the forge output to PAC instead of stash, but it won't be pretty
Yup" me too
who cares abt the usage of extra 5
pwm nerds
put 9 protocol stash for fun
yea, I can see that :sad:
why do u wanna fill the space up?
put 9 protocol stash in a 9x9 space to declare war against me
true, the current megabase only focuses on the balancing(ratio) of the logistics
It is giving me an ick somehow
so close yet so far 
guys i have a billion xiranite components does anyone want some
wait faster
ah yes, been there done that, when doing th
2hrs
donate plz am poor
uhhh sure?
sent
brother, I know your feel. I really want to get 3
How much do you need

AYOOOO
it was at 800 last time
Bro gonna put the entire world in a stash
How many hoarding you gonna need.
h... why the ammount?
fill it with proto stash
btw we cant get wuling development to lvl 9 without the upgrade right ?
Avy can lend u some
yes
idk im in ur position too
yeah cant get 9 without outpost 3
you can once your prosperity is 3
Made some stuff
you need everything maxed out

does it have other purpose than stocking up?
no
^
halo
Im not high right, we still need xiranite components alongside cuprium components
how small can the 55ferrium yazhen be?
yes
stock up we must
i got this
quite
tryna slow odwn production?
transfer refined ferrium, split it in two between both refineries, then do the same for the other refined ferrium via the depot unloader, this will automatically limit your output to 55/min
from the first look, it seems that the ratios are not balanced such as in the Yazhen loop
will this kind of split works? (4pump converger to 1 inlet)
i know using 3 splitter already works, i am asking will this 2 splitter this way, works???
wait so, ur transfering 1500 ferrium over from v4 so ferrium output is 6900/ hr so tryna account for that?
one line of ferrium from depot unloader for 30/min
split the refined product of that line between moulding and fitting unit, and do the same with the 25/min refined ferrium via transfer, this not only saves you energy but also saves you space and limits your input to 55/min ferrium so you dont overconsume and go into your ferrium needed for sc batteries
cuz fuck why is it 115/min
6900 Per hour?!
it's 25/min, 115 is total
90 from the rigs, and then the remaining 25 from transfer
The split ratio for this is 33%, 33%, 16.7%, 16.7%, uneven distribution
115 is 90 (Wuling Cap + 1500 Ferrium per hour or 25/min)
it will eventually stabilitze 
ya 115 x 60 is 6900
yea just as i expected, tho i slightly hope it will be split eventually after clog
while thinking more about it, do I need to make the foundry more dense in facilities?
so this? lmao
it will work, just not right away, will take some time to stabilize
not really, game gives a lot of space for error
lmao, should i go with this setup
if you're running 4 lane of Ferrium you're losing like 5 ferrium per minute
like maybe a few minutes
Silly question, but how do I disable the Refining Unit's fluid mode on controller.........
top right hand side
i personally have a one and a half subpac empty in v4
if you'd like, no problem with it, you lose like 3 minutes on initial startup but after that you're good to go
No yeah I see it I just can't maneuver over to it
console?
Yep
no idea then o.o;; sorry
I could just log in on my phone but I should probably figure out how to do this
good luck!
Oh dear.
one line of ferrium from depot unloader for 30/min
split the refined product of that line between moulding and fitting unit, and do the same with the 25/min refined ferrium via transfer, this not only saves you energy but also saves you space and limits your input to 55/min ferrium so you dont overconsume and go into your ferrium needed for sc batteries
can u activarte mouse mode?
copying and pasting from my other comment
idk console
is it because of the depot belt coverage limitation?
im trying to make beautiful setup for optimization
Try branch out with main branch first, then add 2 sub branchs in both path, then the 4 branched output go to all 4 facilities, this will evenly distribute with 25% on all 4
got it
Let me czech
yea thats what i mean by , 3 splitter works
but i need to rearrange
it is using the numbers optimally, just not right away, the machine will run at full capacity once the first two machines are full of water
Nnnnno
which is 50, so 50/0.5s is about 100 so you wait 1 min 40 before it starts working properly
Trying to maneuver to the top right just gets it stuck on the pipe output
how many machine yall use for this process? 2 or 4?
NO IDEA IF THIS HELPS but would this be 25/min?
one
wait nvm not final output
All 4, all for sc battery 12/min๐
that entire process needs to be done in one reaction crucible anyways, if you try to split it up into two it wont work
this question can be interpreted in so many ways idek what to say there 
mine if it helps
if you're talking about how many machines to get there, you need two machines, one for liquid xiranite, then another for the picture you're showing
reactor crucible wise
im ngl idk what that combination of words mean
what did i do wrong ive even gotten to a point to watching a youtube tutorial for a tutorial the water just wont flow cooperate
i use 2 of the one that does this to go into the final one
make sure you're using a splitter and it's facing the right way
wait
nvm what is going on lmao
wdr u orientating the splitter correctly?
uhhh
why did you even put a splitter there in the first place
just connect it pipe wise
^
to here
facing wrong way, and also just remove it in the first place and connect directly
the flat side is the inlet side
The pipe arrow direction...
yeah...
thanks a lot
cursed piping
Screw it,I'm transferring bottles or ferrium parts directly
theres an area the devs made for us...
now do it for the other nodes 
oh nvm...
done. whole wuling
work in progress 
wow nice, still haven't gone to it yet, need to do some for the bigger nodes, not really worth it for the 2 ore node spots though
more proto stash needed
hydro miner work other ore?
nice 
yes wuling side

not v4 since you can't put down pipes in the first place
ye i know

but its cut electricity cost
Cannot even use sprinklers in v4
for most yeah
Ok I figured it out. You have to go to quick actions and then click on where it says 'OFF'
292 in wuling 493 in V4 
not on top of some i haven't retrieve yet
remnant from 1.0 patch
the ferrium one tho, does 1 pump enough for 6 ferrium tho? its 3 high and 3 low
or i math it wrong?
no, 2 pumps
one pump = 3 high purity or 6 low purity
essentially, 1 pump = 60 ore/min
but 2 pumps have extra water so you distribute it to the nearby originium spot
how to split inlet outlet tho
No one want's to help me on Help channel so I'm just gonna ask here. How do I go up there? I'm on the wheel and it's not moving.
oh
split it via pipe then sent it via inlet/outlet
can just try to pipe split inlet
yea
damn do i do this
for the originium one
for
for the ferrium it will save you like, 40 power atm?
i already have my ferrium hydro
ah
now i can try harder to split if i want to hydro originium
but i guess ill leave it for now
im mostly doing hydro on originium to save protocol
if i can
if it's not too far out of the way that i originally made my ziplines i will probably leave it
..... DId you fall off it or something?
breh is this power min maxing worth the sanity decrease
No. It didn't move after waiting for 2 minutes so I just jumped to maybe reset it
cursed piping
Is there nothing to spray at nearby?
won't you have to redo it when purity goes up in future update though
I just did 1 pump/3 spots so I don't have to deal with that
i saved 100+ power the whole patch? im in
None. I'm like looking around on the limited space here still see nothing
I'm so lost
isnt 200m long enough you can just teleport to subpac
in case wanna skip drag
I got under 3400 total anyways so I'm just going to live with this
Man we can't even load sewage into our water gun
i have to go for the lowest possible coz im instead draining my HC + LC stocks, instead of SC
and i PWM it
We need to pollute Talos II even more
Imma go look at it in-game I guess...
Low effort edit.
Thanks. I never felt so unwelcomed on a help channel.
what do you guys metastorage over these days? I was thinking of transfering purple bats over so I could maybe not burn an SC Battery, which means more SC Battery stockpiles
ehh, I think it's fine as long as it's making more than outpost generates
I use ferrite for extra Yazhen C
I'm doing cuprium parts so I don't have to deal with ratios for gearing
HC is slow af
batts aren't worth transfering, might as well do orig cubes or sth
just manual transfer for 1 or 2 minutes
The idea is I have 5k purple bats chilling in wuling depot, maybe I can burn those while metastoraging over some as well
did you guys find the optimal zipway pathing for the big waterwheel on qinbou?
you can manually put it in ur bag like 3 or 4 times
yeah but if i metastorage over, I will have to do that less
but barely
cuz 30 an hour is reall slow
yeah not enough for one thermal bank
that's 1/3 uptime
yeah it wont be slef suficient
but it should slow down the batt drain
aka less manual labour
let me show you my setup
55 setup
i get my fluid somewhere instead of giving it its own reactor
integrate it into your SC line
thats cursed
wait you can do 2 reactions simultaneously?
cursed. but it produces an exact ratio
yeah ever since
so does mine
with its own oddities
okay saving another 50 power let's go
how much do you transfer with ferrium parts?
per hr
parts should be 2cost so 750?
We cannot use one crucible for both liquid xiranite plus xircon effluent right?
I can't find that lift lol
idk but its probably the same as 1500ferrium
wtf, i put cuprium parts on the metatransfer and when i checked again later it wasn't doing any transfer, and now it gives me error when i select a cuprium item
since the base itself doesnt produce ferrium parts,itll force itself into a 55
you are transferring parts at 25/min
you are producing 15/min of bottle
but for 15/min of bottle you need 30/min of parts
instead, you are using 12.5/min of bottle, so that will clog up eventually
Ur in the flatform I need to go to. I'm from the other side
maybe
Jump on the water wheel :P
it was too cursed for its own good to begin with
dang guess the parts being transferable was a bug and they just patched it huh
side unloader and combined lines
wdym maybe? you say yours produce correct ratio
It doesn't move that's the thing.
idk what to do with the 1 ferrium node. ig more yazhen
isn't that overly complicated
it isnt, actually
theoritically but not actually now that u mentioned what clogging
did you see mine
but you are using 30+30
anyone know what's going on? all i did was overlap the belts they shouldn't interfere with each other
i gotta fix that
This thing doesn't move?
i mean it is 25/min, unless you're sending some refined ferrium into depot via non meta transfer
Yes. It doesn't.
i like doing things exactly
fair 
Might be a bug. Maybe restart the game
its easy setup
Restarted my game tho to see if it's a bug or not
I love this, its so smooth line. (dont mine the yazhen A I cut some of mats for now)
i dont see it as 25/min coz its an unloader, which does 30/min. im very strict with it lmao
just one of those things xD understandable
Well to be specific its 30/min with 10min downtime per hour
also waiting for this to die coz im doing 12 SC + 3 comp 
then im gonna turn 12 SC into 9
that shoukd fix it
yes
average still 25/min
while the bottle line is overproducing,its being capped by the limited ferrium part
should even out
how so
because your ferrium output from the other line will be forced to match your limited parts output
you dont ratio it correctly
and isnt that 55?
i thought it was
no, it's 25/min
wtf
your bottle to parts ratio isnt correct
your parts is 25/min average, so your other unloader will match
yes what haruna said
gimme a sec to process
ratio isn't correct
your bottle to parts is 15:25
imagine it like this: if you need 25g salt and 25g sugar to make something, but have 30g salt, you will have 5 left over because you cannot make what you want to make, with that remainng 5
my bottle to parts is 13.75:27.5
which is 1:2
basically mine and eviaa's work same
ehhh gud enuf, im too tired rn to figure out how to optimize the treatment plant
haruna's works exactly, mine doesn't care if depot is completely empty on a resource 
you divide the 30 line, you divide the 25 line. and combine the different halves
Whew...
sewage enjoyer
Does anyone know how to manually choose which formula the reactor crucible uses? mine keeps getting stuck on one I don't want it to do
you cant
easiest way to reset the crucible so it matches what you're making, is to stash it and then put it back down
Treatment plant treats 1unit/2sec. This is the same rate as cuprium ore generating sewage. So each cuprium refiner needs to allocate one water treatment.
can someone help me figure out this issue? a gap appears on the belt line periodically after i slap a belt bridge over
you are making batteries though yeah?
I was trying to move sewage in parallel through treatment so I can cycle it back but the first crucible keeps getting stuck on the wrong formula, even if there's no space for it
you're splitting it?
Yeah
if you're expecting a full belt leave a belt gap between convergers/mergers
there's some weird lag when you directly connect them
show your setup
the syringe line is off, it should flow one direction
oh i see
You can allocate one cuprium refiner's sewage for one reactor crucible's xircon effluent
is your sewage full
if you're limiting your battery production i think that's probably what's causing it
why haimao
i've checked everything on the line and emptied a few times already
It's moving now. I need compensation from the devs from the headache a got from this bug. 
whats your current setup for the SC batteries?
If I could force this to produce liquid xiranite only it would work
Its one refinery to one water treatment plant. So with 4 refineryโs you need four treatment plants, assuming thats what the issue is since we cant see those
i think this was it, just lag issue when the belts are directly connected
i miss 1.0 when i could save on 1 refiner by transferring bottles (3 refiners make ferrium and converge together in a protocol stash)
If Only it had 6 slots and not 5
ah i see, that is really weird
Yeah, I noticed this too, if only its 6 slot, then we can process both xiranite liquid + xircon effluent 2 in 1
only the 3rd setup works as expected
I don't even really care about that, just want to force one and only one formula. I literally can't get it to produce anymore and there's full water and xiranite in there
can you try turning your crucible off, remove the sewage input, then let it make some liquid xiranite, before attaching sewage?
Or remove the crucible & place it down again
i mean alternatively you can use pipe belts to link the sewage directly instead of doing what you're doing
I may need to remove and replace it's really stuck
did you not already?
Yeah, it sucks when the reactor crucible do not allow us to interact with its content
devs should add a way to flip blueprints to make symmetrical ones
You have to force it out with belt for solids, and pipe output for liquids
got the size down for one SC bat production to 48x38
Otherwise, just remove and place it down again, its quicker
yeah remove and replaced and it immediately did one unit of Xircon and clogged itself
absolute chaos 
So for a short time, it still uses a slot in the reactor
So your kind of forced to use another one
I let the inert xircon fill up hoping it would stop the thing from trying to use that formula but it just made it get stuck harder
im sure it can be smaller
ok should be enough to last a few hour
okay but also, why don't you just.. input it into the second crucible directly?
Why stock up those sewage?
why not just pipe the sewage directly into the 2nd reactor
I do.
@nova osprey @brisk jetty one sc line is currently off which runs off the sewage from the bottle line
that solves the issue no?
You can reuse the sewage to make xircon effluent, that liquid is used for making sc batteries
no as soon as water runs out it makes one unit of xircon and clogs up
is it not the sewage that's clogging
its like how in satisfactory you have to treat the nuclear waste, but instead you can just throw them off the map
Mine is 27x39
no the problem is water runs out for half a second and the reactor changes formula on me
are you making everything on the spot?
Potential clog
Only one treatment plant on two refinerys
input more water
but why do you need sewage in the first crucible
1/s worth, but im pretty sure the treatment plant only handles 0.5/s
or are you trying to make xircon in the first crucible too?
ahhh I suppose I don't
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no, nothing on the line is clogged, parts sewage is going into sc line, bottle sewage goes into the other sc line but both are currently off
well I was just going to put it through since I get 2 outputs
both sc lines are off?
Xiranite fluid creation takes up 3 slots, leaving two slots left. That isnโt enough space to get effluent in, which would need to use 3 additional slots
to be honest, i just want to make copium part for the turrets and didnt want to bother maximizing clean output
no issue here, sewage is being used 1:1 ratio
Hmm does water treatment go to 1/s?
only one sc line is off, i meant the syringe line and one sc line is off
Yap lemme ss
oh i see
Nope, its 1 unit/ 2 seconds, eventually the water treatment will clog with 2 sewage output combined into one
Any treatment 0.5/s
yeah the sewage isnt rising anywhere
Its not there. Theres 1/s of sewage being created, but 0.5/s being removed. Leaving 0.5/s left
Unless this formula is lying
forges not included i see
I'll introduce sewage via 2nd reactor only. hopefully with this I don't have to worry about my cuperium filling up and turning off batt production
pretty sure the picture you took is a conduit
not the treatment unit
Ohhh rite, yea they're on outpost
yes it is
Oh wait it is a conduit
50x38 with forges
Im blind
yes conduit
I blame TangTang for my blindness
double eyepatch
Technically you can combine 4 cuprium into one pipe for 2units/sec
man
not a lot of freedom to make blueprints in-game
third-party ones are hella clunky
y'see the problem only pops up when i put the belt bridge over, if i run the line like the first image i produce 6/s no issues
i think the most probable issue is the belt bridges create lag 
it could also take a second to re-adjust
usually they'd just get teleported forward a bit
ends up with the same speed as normal belt
Is dat gap consistent?
Like it keeps showing gap?
yes, it pops up once every 4 items
Just came across interesting wall -_- you can place only 512 objects in main AIC area belt/pipe not included but spliters and other belt/pipe modifications count too
yeah, that's the problem with PWM
took up too much object
yeah i have that for components,xiranite and parts ๐
i ran the line with the belt bridges over while doing some quests, line ran at 5/s
i've been running it without the belt bridges over while asking in this chat and produce 6/s
Guys what are the necessary Factories needed for this current level of the game.
I have 2 Xiranite Components
2x LC Wuling Battery
1x Yazhen C syringe
2x Xiranite Farm unit
1x Cuprium Components
I still need yazhen A and SC battery
i don't know if it's a device problem or a game problem i haven't encountered because based on my observation they ended up with the same speed
Why is your Xiranite 116
must've just set up the 4 lines and it's adjusting
probably not enough water somewhere would be my guess
Check the video
I want my xiranite production to directly hit battery production
so prio will always be batteries
Guys let me know what bases I need for the end game and Stock bills
Iโm very bad at this
what do yall think of this mess
will try to look but its so pixelated on my end so its hard to see whats split and what pipe bridge
if it works it works ๐
Awwww man
Holy why is it so vibrant
yeah i cant make sense of it you move too much and it gets pixelated -> i build just to be save 1 pump for 2 buildings if you put more buildings sometimes there is 1 tick of water missing and that might be the problem so just double check and that should fix it ๐
I see
and use underground piping that will help a lot with organizing things ๐
Now my current issue is what factories do I need
i use underground piping for everything that is far as 20+ blocks so XD
it dosnt cost power so its build once and forget thing ๐
10 of those hour are just me staring at AIC figuring out what's wrong, how to fix it, and how to make something
Now my current issue is what factories do I need.
Like for endgame gear and Stock bills
what do you mean which factories you need ? ๐
SC Battery, Syringe A and if you're feeling it, Syringe C also
So no need of LC right ?!
i am done with Syringe C/Jincao Drink
nope but xiranite gear and cuprium gear too
might want to make those
What pwm
lvl 3 Jinguy Valey
Thanks pookie
i am so done with trying to make ferrium bearable in Wuling
You can for some reason meta transfer cuprium over
no longer available
not anymore
Fixed?
Yup
yup my transfer was empty when it was working earlier and no selection possible
We should get 500 orobyll compensation
100% 2x SC Wuling battery
100% 1x Yazhen Siringe A
1%-5% Xiranite/Cuprium Components
50%+- Yazhen Siringe C
thats at least how i have it
at least 5000
Btw, anyone have blueprint/pattern on how to get the 20 output from normal 30 unloader output?
hear me out, once Wuling is capable of reaching RDL 12, Metastorage an item you need that can only be produced in Wuling to V4, then transfer that item back to Wuling via storage
1x LC
1x SC
1x CUP COMPONENT
1x XIRA COMPONENT
1x YA SYRINGE (A)
1x YA SYRINGE (C)
Question:
do I lose Ferrium more if I have 1x YA SYRINGE (C) and 1x SC
they should just make metatransfer 1,800 so it's a clean 30/min instead of awkward 25/min . . .
i think its 55 now?
1 syringe C on it's own uses 120/min ferrium and our yield is still 90(115 meta)/min
Shadow fix? I see no patch notes
I need ferrium
helo,havent seen u in a bit
It feels like they want us to go dijang ship for manual transfer
Hellaw
1x LC
1x SC
1x CUP COMPONENT
1x XIRA COMPONENT
1x YA SYRINGE (A)
1x YA SYRINGE (C)
Question:
do I lose Ferrium more if I have 1x YA SYRINGE (C) and 1x SC
@jade temple
this is how i do components i have operators already geared so this is just to have some income of them over time
except im using 100% of resources in valley already . . .
metatransfer generates without using resources
after rerouting the belts there's no longer an issue, guess it was lag from the splitter and belt bridge
if you're running 12/Min SC you're already using up half of your Ferrium yield, so i believe if you try to run Syringe C you will lose 5 Ferrium per minute even with Metastorage, but 6 SC/Min (1 SC Production Line) should be good
i think you should be okey but not 100% sure just did quick math only will look into it give few mins
So I can run both. I feel so dumb
If you're willing to produce only 6 SC per minute
oh wait i haven't linked the bottles up, guess i need to wait a bit for the numbers again
I just need 1 SC that generates for battery and Selling
@marble yarrow hows it now?
Dat won't be enough no?
We need 600 wuling stock per min
1 batt is 54
Ummmmmm ๐ญ
does this look like 55 to u?
What r u troubleshooting?
i messed up and made a 50 instead of 55 so i had to fix it
Xircon is really Crucible heavy
yeah
Owwwww
I wish they allow processing 2 things at the same time in 1 crucible. But the lack of slot actually prevents it smh T_T
55 once depot is zero
the slot is the problem
ill take that
like I really try anyway to only make it uses 2
But due to lack of slots you need 3 in order to produce one
To be honest the factory is being toooooo complicated ๐ญ๐ฅ
and you need to junk the inert one
Ow so u unload ferrium and the refined one?
Fok it imma just use someoneโs blue print and call it a day ๐ญ
fortunately the dev might be aware of liquid xirenite dumping scheme player been doing to a point you cannot dump literal sewage
i cant identify which one is the first and second output of crucible
Yea, just dump it in the nearby river
UI still hurts my eyes
U cannot dump them to other water sources? D:
They really need to get rid of the facility name plastered above the facilities
yup
Damn they're forcing us to be a good company
Why ferrium dust there 
Stash it and replace
to make xircon but been trying to make it only uses 2 crucible
look at dm hope that answered question XD
but seem like its impossible
Yeappp
I couldn't a solution for 2 crucibde
But for max efficiency need 5 cruc yes?
the amount if industrial waste it bring make it impossible
can u actually make two recipe in one crucible?
the problem is the waste it produced
We can if it's yazhen stuffs, but for sc batt cannot
Too many types of material u need
ahh so we just lacking the output
it can actually make 2 recipe
Yup"
I really" wish we can put sewage to bottles
Oh the things I'd do if we could
you can.
unfortunately you cant select it as ammo for the drone
Eh????
I just can't use it on spray.
Oh maybe I should stockpile for future edge cases

Can we dump them somewhere? ๐
donno Am not testing it yet.
we should have not show the dev the pure stupidity of replacing the entire wuling water supply with xirnite. maybe they won't even think of making it undischargeable
Dev knows lots of players are evil. And won't help tianshi saving wuling
"accient spray that can power almost everthing when using it"
"it clogged when water is dirty"
KEKW
this reminds me i should unlock the new bottle recipes for all the liquids, i only did sewage
Lore will be broken

Dat reminds me, why burdenbeast has plate numbers?
is there a bug that just breaks your power generators somehow
Thermal banks?
yeah that
Hmmm not to my knowledge, but I'm not all knowing
my factories were working just fine but it just suddenly ran out of power this patch
What's the problem u encountered?
R u using sc or lc?
Did u change anything after patch?
Screenshit

i love screenshitting
I'm gonna use dat word one day
Is it possible to actually hit lvl 9 in wuling?
The one broken was the one in valley or wuling?
Very
Hit it 6h after maintenance 
valley
Iโm trying to find wat Iโm missing but I just dk
Every single facility upgraded to the max including Outpost
there
itll just break after 30s
i still have batteries in stock
so theres no reason it should be doing this
Hmmm
What if u don't use dat splitter?
where's your other thermal bank
reworked it a bit to tuck the water treatment plants inside
other outposts
The one's broken not dat one
Do uk how much points it gives after u upgrade the outpost?
No "zzz" mark above dat thermal bank
one per outpost? same setup?
I forgot, but most definitely enough if you maxed out everything else
uhh basically i think
im not doing anything to complicated
Find which thermal bank gets the "zzz" mark when ur power drops
but its been working fine for the entire 1.0 patch so not sure what changed
Screenshot of the other thermal bank will ya?
Tang tang stole your building
you're using originium in some of your thermal banks arent you
possibly lmoa
that's probably the issue
i havent done an overhaul factory rebuild
Do it
if you're using up all your originium, check your aic report for your batteries + originium
But he said it works the whole 1.0 patch
actually nvm
Dat's the puzzle
I recommend placing batteries in 1 AIC only
could be originium not sure what's going on
weird
Instead of multiple in different one
actually idk at this point 
Do this one bro
So u can monitor them all at the same time
Keep tang tang out of valley for now
And you can do cool shit like PWM
PWM is another level but good luck
U have a list for pwm?
Like every desired second
Rn at 108s per batt
But I want 120+
No, i stare at them for a long time, Until. I. Get. What. I. Wanted
AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
SO REALLLL
ahh yes, the true Factorio player
