aic-factory

[nova osprey]

bad forum build

[thorn pike]

After a minute it should be normal

Do it manually

And delete them later

The batteries will be into your pockets

They wont be erased

[azure minnow]

nope.

[prisma granite]

regardless I just redid everything cuz of update and now it all looks like a complete disaster

I'll reorganize it later

[azure minnow]

do we really need the new batteries tho?

[fair flicker]

do u guys have link for battery one or code

[prisma granite]

they look cooler so yes

[nova osprey]

look for the most popular 12/min batts and 5.75/min med

that should work fine

[thorn pike]

You really should build your own base or just a small section of something to know how AIC factory works.

This is imo the BEST section of the endgame

[fair flicker]

i just followed build idk what is happening their tbh

[azure minnow]

i gotta copy blueprints

[fair flicker]

i need to replace whole farm or just that small part with those components

[thorn pike]

I literally spent time calibrating my base with more enthusiasm than when i play story

[prisma granite]

u can swap out for jincao or yazhen cuz those plants are double carbon

saves power

downside is uses water

[nova osprey]

you could copy the battery section of your layout and paste it

[thorn pike]

If you blindly copy paste everything and go "kyonstiv" everything then you are missing out half of the game

Try all the guides of the game at least. They give you rolls for that

[prisma granite]

I skip those and figure it out myself

[thorn pike]

Good

Same

Never touched guides

[prisma granite]

which is why the pipeline for this patch took me like half an hour to figure out

[fair flicker]

IT HAS DIFFERENT LAYOUT I DONT THINK I CAN CPY PASTE

[near flower]

I think I've made the best base

[nova osprey]

just use a different blueprint hen

[thorn pike]

After my stocks are up and stuff im gonna delete my base and remake it all again

The fun

[dense furnace]

When should I use (pipe) convergers?

[thorn pike]

When pipe converges

[cedar bay]

Where do I get the extra ore from I'm only 80?

[near flower]

You should have regional development lvl 8

[cedar bay]

Ah so need to wait until I upgrade a few more things.

[thorn pike]

It's hard to explain in detail

But if 1 of your line is not max capacity, and the other is more than enough, then split the ezcessive pipe and converge them to the less-full one

I use it for my sewage system

Minmaxing and stuff

[near flower]

Mostly convergers and splitters are useless

[thorn pike]

For exaple, one of your pipe is 1/30, the water in machine is 0~1/50, and the other is 30/30 and 50/50

[near flower]

What is that

[thorn pike]

Then split the fuller one and converge them

That way you have both full pipes

You can also use multiple split/merge to tune it

[thorn pike]

Normal day

[near flower]

As I said, usually you don't use them because pipe's capacity is only 60

[thorn pike]

Yeah , usually

[near flower]

Why don't you use conduit outlets?

[thorn pike]

But there's nothing usual at my base

[thorn pike]

I like piping

[nova osprey]

1 max flow rate pipe = 4 machines

[lone pebble]

COUSE THEY USE 3/3 🙂

[thorn pike]

Not always the case iirc

[nova osprey]

actually yeah true, it should be 1 max flow rate pipe = 4 input lines

[near flower]

What?

[sick basin]

He meant they are 3x3 space

They are big

[near flower]

I think this was the only place I used pipe converges just to save some space

[thorn pike]

I'm intergrating the 1.0 base for the 1.1 stuff, just to keep it up with the game asap.

After i get stable resources im gonna delete everything and start over

[quartz oriole]

This base building is hurting my head lol. So far I my yield is 6 SC batt, 6 LC batt, 6 Syringe A, 3 Syringe C, and 1.5 of each component.

[thorn pike]

Go for all 12 big batteries

[ruby flare]

The one planter > two shredders should be fine too right?

[nova osprey]

I'm actually unsure let me take a better look at your setup

[forest meteor]

how many pumps can go through one pipe?

[nova osprey]

oh okay yeah nvm see it

[nova osprey]

yes

either that or use jincao

since jincao is easier to work with

or yazhen

[near flower]

Unfortunately you lose like more than a thousand of stock bills/hour

[ruby flare]

Ok, thanks again.

[sick basin]

2

[quartz oriole]

I've did that but I'm still trying to make components for artificing. And it sucks that you still need both components

[sick basin]

As pumpts are 1/s

[nova osprey]

jincao/yazhen would work better bc you can shave off 70 energy ish per xiranite production

[ruby flare]

Ok, got it.

[quartz oriole]

Yea I know but I'm constantly waiting for the outpost to make money anyways it seems.

[prisma granite]

immaculate pipelines if I do say so myself

[near flower]

On lvl 3 outpost?

[quartz oriole]

Yea

[near flower]

Probably you just had a cap of items and it will be like that until they will be spent

[nova osprey]

bruh moment lmao

[prisma granite]

it's beautiful isn't it

[nova osprey]

[prisma granite]

pipes being able to go over depot is lovely

[thorn pike]

Artificing is a scam.

Drop that. Max everything in Wuling first, then drop battery for the artificng

[quartz oriole]

Oh I did. I'm sitting on 30k of each battery and just about 20k syringes

[near flower]

That's the best layout I found

[thorn pike]

When you max everything your ores will go to cap. After that, do intermitment production for a day

After ores go to <1000, stop gear production. When its back to max produce them again

[near flower]

I build factory not to make it manual

[quartz oriole]

If your outpost is lvl 3 what else is there to max. To be honest this patch was rather small.

[thorn pike]

Focus on maxing stocks first. Building GUARANTEED STATS is always better than gambling with artificing gears

Go M3 all skill is worth more than artificing

There will be better gears every patch

[quartz oriole]

This is big facts

[thorn pike]

The chance of your gear NOT getting dunked in the future is like 0%

[fervent stratus]

..... Artificing is independent of maxing skills though...

[quartz oriole]

Eventually we will get lvl 80 gear as well I'd imagine

[fervent stratus]

Unless we are talking about Essences

[near flower]

Stock bills gain is limited by outposts' earning

[thorn pike]

Those are gambling. Finish guaranteed stuff first and then think about them

[digital bramble]

There will be no waste, and no sewaged cleaned until its my last resort. As a side note, imagine the horror and complete confusion at stumbling on a warehouse full of bottled sewage...

[fervent stratus]

You will always need the Wuling stock bills as it is...

[thorn pike]

I know, happened in Valley IV and Wuling 1.0

[near flower]

It still works btw

[thorn pike]

You are not getting my point.

[quartz oriole]

I've been sitting at 30mil in Valley 4 for almost 3 weeks. Nothing left to buy

[fervent stratus]

You can.... do both.... it's not essence farming versus skill maxing

[ornate sorrel]

im assuming that you can't do jackshit with Cuprium if you were to try to transfer it to Valley IV?

[near flower]

For guaranted stuff you need sanity and for artificing you need SB. Bro, what is your point?

[fervent stratus]

Rather essence take away from both artificing and skill maxing (Stamina + Stock bills)

[thorn pike]

Even after this patch update, if you still have more than 40k each of most tradable items then go for artificing. Consider ditching 6 batteries in the process so you can produce max gears

[lethal swallow]

need help

[thorn pike]

I mean ditch the small batteries for good

Make only 6 big ones

[quartz oriole]

Not really. But you can oddly enough meta transfer coprium and coprium parts from valley 4 to wuling

It's at the rate of 750 per hour though

[thorn pike]

I've seen players produce tons of gear units while their bases and stocks arent maxed, which is wasteful

But frank is fully fed so its ok

[ornate sorrel]

its so lame that you cant bring liquid tech back to Valley

[near flower]

Why do you have ferrium powder there?

[ornate sorrel]

the originium overflow in Valley IV kills me inside

[fervent stratus]

Etching Permit so you can farm essences from Valley to etch essences from other regions.

[quartz oriole]

Dude that would be crazy

[thorn pike]

Imagine fully automatic ecofarm

[lethal swallow]

because of this

[thorn pike]

[ornate sorrel]

Valley IV really feels like a tutorial region esp cuz the stocks are just useless once you're done with the one time resources

[fervent stratus]

Yes, stock bills have priority but you need to use your limited sanity as well.

[digital bramble]

Max gearing isn't a thing, once you're at limit, you can do the math you earn enough points to buy out the entire wuling artificing cataylist store with a lot left over every week.

[thorn pike]

And ive seen players spent thousands of sanity for essence while they dont max their chars and teams yet.

[near flower]

You mixed to crafts, there is also a liquid xiranite in there

[ornate sorrel]

the current AIC endgame really makes people who prefarmed a lot of xiranite comp take a huge W lol

[thorn pike]

Just making sure the guy is oldbie, and yes he is

[digital bramble]

Wish you could just sink gear constantly, but yeah you ultimately end up maxing stock somewhere and just having leftover points, its why I suggest always buying out weekly stocks first and completely ignoring one time purchases until you're just running out of weeklies to buy.

[ornate sorrel]

you can pretyt much cut the component grind really short cuz you can probably just use the old gears for artifice fodder

[quartz oriole]

There definitely is a balance to this game to be the most efficient as possible. But this is also a super casual game with no real endgame. So honestly you can do whatever you want and still do fine.

[fervent stratus]

Max level for skills is usually good enough and it's specific for each character (Mastery is kinda overkill when you are still improving stuffs)

[digital bramble]

true i day 1 trimmed (And first try for that matter) the new boss without new gear so lol...

[near flower]

Just break it and place again

[near flower]

Why? You can make both type of components

[quartz oriole]

I still havent even crafted any of the new gear lol. Just got TangTang though so I guess that new bonekrusha set is good for her

[ornate sorrel]

hoarding a lot of Xiranite comps because current minmax basically stops you from comp grinding

[thorn pike]

Due to trash guides and clickbait tiktokr video, many gacha players focus on gambling resources to increase 5-10% of the chracter power while ignoring the 20-50% power increase with guaranteed stat inprovements

Happens every game

[near flower]

No it's not?

[near flower]

.

[ornate sorrel]

isnt it all 4 cuprium used for drinks and 2 wuling bats

[near flower]

Then you have to split it in different ratios

[quartz oriole]

I use 3 for drinks and 1 for components but it's split up all over the place

[near flower]

Yeah, it's kinda harder to build though

But you get all the stock bills + comps

[thorn pike]

Like genshin, with ultima 0,001% luck, you get artifacts that are like 5% stronger than the usual mid ones

[lethal swallow]

Ok now its working again ty pal

[thorn pike]

And people gloat artifact rolls like they boost 50x powerscale

[quartz oriole]

My Zircon production line randomly just goes crazy but then fixes itself. Not quite sure why lol

[near flower]

Tbh it's kinda annoying since you can't take off items from reactor crucible

[thorn pike]

Same with essence and artificing

[prime anvil]

Anyone know what could cause these weird dips? I've noticed them happening when I'm offline in both valley IV and wuling but they tend to smooth out when I'm online. Is this just something to do with the game or is there a mistake in theine that can cause this

[thorn pike]

Check SEWAGE

[digital bramble]

lots of bottleneck spots, with cleanup contingencies, usually sewage

[thorn pike]

most forgotable

[near flower]

Tbh Arknights is the easiest one with character builds. There are literally no rng to get the best stats, you can get it guaranteed. In 99% of the other games it's absolutely not possible to get perfect stats

[thorn pike]

Most likely insufficent sewage

[thorn pike]

Yeah thats why i said anything % are scams

Just made sure the guy had nothing left to do otherwise

[near flower]

xD

[thorn pike]

How

[near flower]

In fact it's 5.5

[thorn pike]

Thats the most stable stuff i know, i made flat 6

[near flower]

But it doesn't show decimals

[thorn pike]

I make flat 6 no curve

[prime anvil]

Huh ok I guess sewage ur right, my refineries seem to be backed up on refined cuprium so hopefully if I empty that it'll work again

[thorn pike]

Did u lack sth

[near flower]

It spends all 120 cuprium

I use only 110 for syrringe and 10 for cuprium comps

[thorn pike]

I go 122

[lofty agate]

Stuck waiting till tommorow for the lvl 3 upgrade on AIC didnt store enough batteries.

[near flower]

How

[mortal plinth]

are you kidding me???

[thorn pike]

I make delayer/supressor for the gear unit

[mortal plinth]

i gotta break cuprium manually e.e just to mine cuprium...

this is BS

[thorn pike]

So they only take 1~2/min

[near flower]

No

[mortal plinth]

[near flower]

They had to give you some of them

[thorn pike]

Actually i took extra steps and made it 0.25/min

I dont need artificng rn

[mortal plinth]

?

[lucid relic]

you get some from unlocking the blueprint from tech tree

[near flower]

No, you craft like 0.2/min

[mortal plinth]

oh right- i forgot, i put them away cause they filled my damn backpack xD

[near flower]

Or you craft less syrringes, idk

[mortal plinth]

Didnt have time for it

[thorn pike]

Im gonna make it 0.1/min after i craft some

[near flower]

Isn't it too slow?

[thorn pike]

Nah

I have 10k of the green 1.0 gear

[near flower]

It's only 144/day

[thorn pike]

Didnt even touch them

[near flower]

Bruh

[mortal plinth]

1.5 a min is fine, you got nothing else to do with the xiranite anyways

[cursive oasis]

Wait, does this mean I could send some Fertilizer to Valley IV and then get a steady supply of it for free with no day gates?

[thorn pike]

Clear Blight

[near flower]

Can you show it?

[nova osprey]

no cuprium is bugged

[thorn pike]

Oh btw i recommend you guys to craft the new ore's powder and the other useless one.

These useless items usually needed for later patches in large amount

[spark umbra]

likely no but you can try, seems like its a bug, you arent supposed to be able to metatransfer anything that cant be produced in the region, but you can do it for cuprium and cuprium parts

[mortal plinth]

with like....50 liquid xiranite you can basically clear every blight present on the map currently...

you dont need that much

[thorn pike]

Similar to this

[cursive oasis]

Bummer. Strat for future I suppose, when we get Wuling Metatransfer.

[thorn pike]

But in deeper scale

[thorny galleon]

Aww man I maxed out my inventory with xyranite bottles

[nova osprey]

dont forget to max out on explosives too

[thorn pike]

Nuke TalosII

[near flower]

So how much you send for comps? If you have 122 then it won't work anyway

[thorny galleon]

Good point. Gonna go to Valley IV and swap out my consumable C facilities since the other stuff was enough to buy out the outposts

[mortal plinth]

does every mining rig need 1 water pump?

[nova osprey]

1 water pump = 3 high purity nodes

[thorny galleon]

Are there any other thing I can make with amethyst besides batteries, the healing items, and bombs?

[mortal plinth]

ok thx

[nova osprey]

more bombs

[near flower]

No, 1 high purity node needs 20 water/min and low purity 10/min

[thorny galleon]

..I want a new Mega Bomb item that has a bigger radius

Nuke a gathering spot in one go

[nova osprey]

would be nice to make a nuke that nukes everything on the map and collects their drops, even the npcs

[fossil spoke]

can someone help me to found where did I messed up optimize this plan ? (its 15x29)

[thorny galleon]

Lmao, make the landbreakers look like mere bandits while you’re ending wars

…I need to go and actually do 1.1 stuff. Haven’t had time to since the update

Wait, the update was last two nights ago lol, I’m not that far behind

[obsidian knot]

i did just enough of the story and now ive been sitting in the aic

[thorny galleon]

Did we get a new outpost in 1.1?

[obsidian knot]

uh not that i know of

[near flower]

You have one outlet with water for 4 refining units?

[thorny galleon]

Cool
Are the water outlet things only made with cuprium stuff? Or can I make it now?

[fossil spoke]

yeah, its enough (that outlet give 2/s)

since per refining is 0.5 / s

[obsidian knot]

you need cuprium parts to make all the new aic buildings

[thorny galleon]

Coolio, I should try getting cuprium soon

[nova osprey]

yes you need copium

i too love copium ore

[near flower]

No? Outlet gives 1/s

[fossil spoke]

outlet give 2/s....

it matches the pipe

lemme ss it

[nova osprey]

one outlet is enough if you have an inlet with two pumps

[fossil spoke]

this

wait for the image upload for proof

[near flower]

Oh, wait, so the pipe is 120/min? I always thought it's 60 because pump gives 60

[fossil spoke]

there u go

[fossil spoke]

yeah

[near flower]

Bruh xD

[fossil spoke]

the max flow is 2/s

[near flower]

Perhaps I have to remake my factory

[fossil spoke]

im curious how ur piping

[near flower]

Well, I mean it works

But I could use less outlets

[fossil spoke]

i mean, how big the space u can save by maximizing ur pipe bandwith

[near flower]

I don't think you can change much here

[fossil spoke]

I have an idea

u can place treatment outside aic area btw

I treat my liquid outside the aic area to save space

then for the water outlet

u can place it on the moved liquid treatment place and pass it via 1 block space in ur reactor spacing

that way u can save 2 row / height

[near flower]

I mean you can but you have to run pipes through the factory outside

[digital bramble]

My DAC for power is starting to have brownouts since the variance from turning off batteries that have 3200 is a bit too high... need to change it to a system that provides a more rigid and exact time interval between batterry feeds so that they arrive RIGHT as the reserve hits 1% instead of calculating exact power needs, allowing for overcap when excess power from a single battery running in congruence would recharge the entire reserve from 1% to 100%. Assuming you have EXACTLY over a single battery consumption, you will regularly have reserves run dry at this point with perfect calculation, since you have a reserve capacity of 100k, and a single new battery provides 128k over 40 seconds, so perfect calc is only possible with a "technical" minimum reserve of at least 128k ASSUMING perfect timing.

[fossil spoke]

yeah, I place mine not far since the wuling main has empty space near the city side (north of the aic area)

and placing outlet inlet inside the aic area also need to connect it manually

so no different in the hassle

[near flower]

i also can place outlets outside, but I don't really need it anymore as I already built everything I need

[fossil spoke]

yeah

[unreal laurel]

can i see one of yalls power plateou ziplines?

[obsidian knot]

didnt even realize i hit exactly 3400

[fossil spoke]

minmaxing the space is..... idk its feel good when I succeed

[digital bramble]

super convenient XD

[unreal laurel]

?

[near flower]

I spend a lot of time and gained the best efficiency, so I'm fine with it

[unreal laurel]

i wanna see how yall drew the lines

[inland perch]

sry for the 2nd cuprium ore spot do u need to use inlet outlet?

cuz like the water is below

[near flower]

Actually not necessary but it's easier

[near flower]

There is no liqud physics inside pipes like in satisfactory

[mortal plinth]

except when you place one more zipline

[unreal laurel]

your delivery to the south seems lacking

[near flower]

You prob can use originium ore for more power

[near flower]

It's not, idk why it doesn't show the line

[unreal laurel]

why u do the top part that way?

[mortal plinth]

"just one more zipline to this place before i go to bed"
the next day: ALERT no more power endmin! get to work! fix me!

[unreal laurel]

to be closer to the character mats?

[near flower]

xD

[uneven aspen]

I think im done with the AIC for now, but any way to use the 60/min yield originium ore in wuling except for power?

[near flower]

Yeah

[mortal plinth]

not if you got full production set up

[near flower]

You're not right

[unreal laurel]

i didnt even know a full clear of the area was possible in 1 line....

[lone pebble]

HA? no bat ! 2line`s use full 480 !

[near flower]

There is 480 originium

[mortal plinth]

i am. full production means using all the ores

[mortal plinth]

full production includes a 20/min origocrust line

[near flower]

Full production doesn't really means you use all the ores

[near flower]

xD

[unreal laurel]

was kinda curious cause this is how my top is connected

[uneven aspen]

1 line of xiranite split between

[near flower]

Get rid of it then and use for power if you need it

[mortal plinth]

yes thats why its FULL bruh

xD

[uneven aspen]

else it will go above 120/min xiranite

[mortal plinth]

[near flower]

Imo getting all the stock bills and components is enough. If you have any else resources - you can use them on whatever you want

[mortal plinth]

Is there anything else to do with cuprium other than components?

i didnt really see any other recipes that are useful

[near flower]

Syringes

[mortal plinth]

oh....

i did not expect this

[uneven aspen]

yeah need cuprium->cuprium bottle for syringe A

[mortal plinth]

so basically gotta switch from LC battery to SC, and Small syringe to larger one now

[near flower]

I will send it again. I don't think there is better setup than this one. And you still have 60 free originium that you can use for power or whatever you need

[mortal plinth]

i dont feel like redesigning my wuling factory yet...

ill just get many cuprium components for now ig

[uneven aspen]

oh nice, i kinda finished

i metatransfering cuprium parts from valley though

ferrium for more syringe c maybe better

but 72.5/min yield of cuprium part makes it easier for me

[near flower]

The only problem it's not splitted right

[mortal plinth]

still making syringe C? cant Switch fully to A?

[near flower]

Is it a thing or just a bug*? I've heard of it before

[uneven aspen]

im making 100% of 1 A

see the 6/min

[near flower]

No, cause you need cuprium. And for syringes C you need ferrium

[uneven aspen]

yup im doing it

[obsidian knot]

i cant for the life of me figure out why i have theoretical usage of 150, only place im using xiranite is 4 depot unloaders... which should equal to 120

[real crescent]

Its a thing but probably not intended

[mortal plinth]

ahh.. fair...

what do we use ferrium on then

since theres plenty of it left

[uneven aspen]

theory assumes the production machines get 100% of it's input. mine is red cause the gearing unit is not gettign 1/3 of it's potential

[near flower]

If you have 10 batteries you spend only 50 ferrium

[mortal plinth]

SC batteries need ferrium? got it

[uneven aspen]

I only have 1 xiranite split into 3 into SC battery, and the 2 gearing

[obsidian knot]

oh right i forgot about that

[near flower]

As longs as the real usage and yield are equal it should be okay

[uneven aspen]

oh and syringe C all getting 10/min

[smoky eagle]

I intentionally delay my gearing unit only x1 input instead of x2 to reserve Xiranite stock

[mortal plinth]

wuling factory sure got a lot more complex with this update lol

[smoky eagle]

xiranite still precious and scarce in 1.1 lol

[near flower]

Yeah, for this thing

[mortal plinth]

yeah i see....

[smoky eagle]

Shredded Ferrium is not so resource intensive as making bottles, thankfully

Just realized the Double input of this

[mortal plinth]

at least stock bills are more plentiful

[smoky eagle]

2 sewaged liquid Xiranite

[elfin elm]

Does any one has been made a sewage waste river?

[mortal plinth]

we desperately needed more wuling bills

[smoky eagle]

It's not possible unfortunately

[near flower]

Here I use 110 cuprium for 5.5 syringes A and 40 ferrium for 2 syringes C

[mortal plinth]

yeah ...devs should let us polute the world!!!!

[smoky eagle]

Sewage and similar liquids Can't be discharged into bottles or pits

[uneven aspen]

yeah just make due with the 1 sewage pit with the chest inside

[elfin elm]

Got it, I'm going to make one maybe on a pool

[mortal plinth]

fun fact, the "Sewage" is actually one of the most vile substances humans have created used for mining copper....

[near flower]

Unrealistic

[uneven aspen]

hmm both sides looks balanced

[mortal plinth]

if that stuff would get dumped in fresh water all the fish and people using that water would die

[uneven aspen]

i havent bothered to see if that would be an issue or not but you solved it 👍

[smoky eagle]

The fact that nobody can swim is also unrealistic

[thick matrix]

Are the Cuprium Refinement not enough consistent sewage to feed the Xircom Production? It keeps droping in efficiency

[smoky eagle]

You need 2

[near flower]

GTA VC vibes xD

[smoky eagle]

#aic-factory message

[uneven aspen]

techinically there is a swiming animation as it fades to black

we just aren't allowed to swim freely

[smoky eagle]

Yeah lol

[thick matrix]

thats my only issue witht the fluid system in this game, its so hard to tell the supply and usage of them

[uneven aspen]

so the characters can swim, they swim back to land

[near flower]

Why does it use so much though? xD

[smoky eagle]

The formula shows

[uneven aspen]

really sucks they never made this more detailed

i wanna know whats using up all my power too

[smoky eagle]

I forget what these drops are called already lol

[mortal plinth]

too many words...

[smoky eagle]

Xircon is a cool name for dirty Xiranite

Mixed with ferrium powder

[near flower]

Actually there should be current usage of power, max usage, current capacity and max capacity. That would be so much better

[mortal plinth]

dirtynite

[smoky eagle]

Hahahaha

We actually mix poop with Xiranite too

Peak gameplay, man.

Did we get new formulas for the Forge? I haven't explored enough i think

And i havent used the conduit thing

[elfin elm]

What xiranite actually is? a moss or a alge ?

[near flower]

I think forge prob will have only one formula

[uneven aspen]

i havent found any hidden formulas like how the wuling plants were hidden from planter/seeder until you made them.

[smoky eagle]

Carbon compound thing like Originium

Many living things are also made of carbon

[uneven aspen]

i forgot what feranmut are

gods? or like the highest tier/strongest beings from tera

[smoky eagle]

Sick

[elfin elm]

Well more things to do in the future

[smoky eagle]

But the ingredients are stabilized carbon

It says it's Originium based but doesn't make its blueprint have originium in ingredients

[near flower]

Tbh I'm surprised by complexity of factory in Arknights and it's only 1.1. I actually thought it would be much more casual since it's a gacha game

[smoky eagle]

So the conclusion is originium is also formed from carbon

[iron stratus]

how much hc/buck A production do i need exactly to keep up with all 3 outposts

[elfin elm]

Or maybe flowing through water that it use

[smoky eagle]

Yeah, many QOLs in the systems too, very impressive. Teaches players factory and business management or a hint of it

Yeah carbon is kind of the life material and water fuels life so xiranite kind of symbolizes life too

[uneven aspen]

3 lines of each for 18/min yields for both

[near flower]

The max you can build is 18 batteries/min and 18 buck A/min, which is 3 productions each

[iron stratus]

i know but i only want to do the bare minimum so i can switch my materials towards more useful production

[near flower]

That's actually strange. It says it's orinium-based but doesn't use it for craft xD

[iron stratus]

with 18 on each i have a surplus

[sick basin]

valley4 doesnt have anything useful after u reach wulling

[near flower]

I did a lot of calculations and I found this one:
18 Buck Capsule [A]/min + 18 Buck Capsule [C]/min + 12 HC Valley Battery/min + 6 SC Valley Battery/min + 6 LC Valley Battery/min + 30 Origocrust/min + 30 Amethys parts/min + 30 Ferrium parts/min + 15 Steel parts/min:

• 1080 Ferrium/min
• 240 Amethyst/min
• 540 Originium/min (20 units/min excess)
• 285 Sandleaf/min
• 225 Buckflower/min

It should be enough to get all the stock bills and you get additional items, but it's harder to make with these ratios

[uneven aspen]

did the math on this before.

you need 4.8 production lines, so 5 to be safe.

[smoky eagle]

Yeah the tianshi in the story was amazed bcoz endmin used some "raw materials"
reveals originium as carbon compound

[near flower]

3 max outposts avg (with earn buffs): 29,148 + 38,976 + 51,408 = 119,532/hour | 2,868,768/day
This setup:
2,924,640/day (55,872 excess of stock bills)

If I did all the calculations right, you can check it

[smoky eagle]

Yay, numbers

[near flower]

I even made script to find best ratios for Wuling

[smoky eagle]

Woah

What language

[iron stratus]

so 4.743 lines

[smoky eagle]

Python?

Very smart

[thick matrix]

so do i need to join the Sewage output of 2 Cuprium refiners in order to reach enough supply for one Xircon Effluent?

[static isle]

tfw when you didn't bank wuling outpost before the update and now ur still stuck at lv2
sadge

[smoky eagle]

Almost 3 million a day? Maximum?

Sweet

[near flower]

So you prob can do better, but ratios are too difficult and the Excel table I showed earlier is the best

[sick basin]

Only one, u get one sewage output from the crubibles themselves

[static isle]

you only need one no?
xircon production itself produces one sewage line that can be feed back

[nova osprey]

why are you stuck at level 2 depot, or do you mean outpost

[unkempt estuary]

-how sweaty can endfielders be?

: yes.

[static isle]

outpost yh

[thick matrix]

it should be, but i keep gettin drops in efficiency due to lack of sewage so i dunno

[smoky eagle]

U put them 1 sewage each into the 2 liquid slots

[near flower]

Yeah, though AI did it xD
I could do that myself too, but that would take much more time. Claude wrote 300+ lines in like 5-10 minutes

I think programmers are doomed

[smoky eagle]

There are 2 pipe input holes in reactor crucible

[static isle]

yes but the final crucible that produce zircon itself also have one sewage output
you feed that back
so you only need 1 line extra

[smoky eagle]

I never use ai to code, as a gamedev lol

[near flower]

Well, I mean you should be careful with that, it still sucks xD

But sometimes it can save you a lot of time

[static isle]

it's 2 liquid xiranite, 1 sewage and 1 ferrium for 30/m zircon

[smoky eagle]

True

[near flower]

I personally code on js/ts, c#, c++

[lone pebble]

O WELL , as long as is max , dont care , ps still using v4 bat :))

[smoky eagle]

I use bottled Xiranite x1 pipe coming from separating unit lol

Am i cooked

It just split into the 2 crucibles i placed

Lmao

I'm not in pc aaahh

[static isle]

I do this to reuse extra sandleaf powder from xiranite units but u can also just use sandleaf plant for less depots

[smoky eagle]

Oh, i didn't realize u can place the sewage machines outside lol

[glossy nymph]

Quick question. Anyone got to billion stock bills yet?

[smoky eagle]

The limit is 30 million

[glossy nymph]

Really?

Hmm

[smoky eagle]

But yes people are storing sellables inside unpowered Protocol Stashes to reach billion.

Exceeding the depot limit.

[glossy nymph]

Hmmm

[unkempt estuary]

[near flower]

But how you will sell it if there's limit for outpost earnings?

[smoky eagle]

Beautiful setup

[near flower]

Or their stock bills can go to infinity?

[glossy nymph]

Well...

[smoky eagle]

It's potential money, game has limit so if u reach limit simply buy more

[glossy nymph]

Yes

[smoky eagle]

The sellables inside the stashes will convert accordingly

Stock bill limit 😔

U can even have protocol stashes Outside the AIC : 😭

Holy crap

But that's spending capacity u might use for Ziplines

[near flower]

Or you mean elastic goods?

[glossy nymph]

We need cafe in wulling

To spend our sweet sweet money

[smoky eagle]

Batteries

Sellables are batteries

[near flower]

But you can't sell them infinitely?

[smoky eagle]

You can't

Only after buying can u sell again

After reaching 30 million

If u still have batteries to sell

[near flower]

I mean outposts have limits too

So it doesn really help ig?

[smoky eagle]

Oh yeah they do

😂

[glossy nymph]

Also we can invite other operators to increase the relationship. ☕

[near flower]

Like you can have 1m batteries but you won't be able to sell all of them anyway

[smoky eagle]

I wish that Da Pan had story role or sidequest

In wuling

[near flower]

So stock bills are still caped to time

[smoky eagle]

Yeah time

The "potential money" is timegated

[glossy nymph]

Quick question. Is he vegetarian?

[smoky eagle]

Don't think so?

Wait

Pandas are

[glossy nymph]

But....

[smoky eagle]

Plant eaters aren't they

Not sure, he cooks a lot

[glossy nymph]

I show him mentioning meat in his food though

[smoky eagle]

Oh yeah in the new year event

He is more than a panda.

[glossy nymph]

HE IS A ICE BEAR IN DISGUISE CHAT!!

[smoky eagle]

[toxic forge]

pandas can eat meat

they are bears

[smoky eagle]

True

Lmao

[glossy nymph]

True

[near flower]

I built that abomination to use every sandleaf xD

[smoky eagle]

Don't bears eat ppl

[glossy nymph]

I can't unseen it now 😭

[smoky eagle]

Feeling dum

[glossy nymph]

Ye

[smoky eagle]

Love to see vantage points of AICs man

[static isle]

honestly I hate tying facs to each other
I prefer modular units
like this
4 xiranite units of 30/m each

[smoky eagle]

The depot buses are like the Nazca lines visible from space

[hazy wharf]

so you can generate Copium part from valley iv with metastorage and send it to Wuling

from thin air

[near flower]

Tbh I think solid factories looks cooler but they are less convenient to build, true

[glossy nymph]

We have tp tecnology.

[smoky eagle]

From Valley???

How

[hazy wharf]

yea you can try it
it selectable

[static isle]

manually bring one copper part to V4 via backpack then use metatstatic
all you need is one

[smoky eagle]

1

Woahhh

[near flower]

Well tp is not the same as creating items out of nothing

[smoky eagle]

So uhhh bug?

[muted willow]

can anyone tell me how many wuling bills the new battery sells for? can't seem to find the info anywhere and i'm still a day or two away from the prosperity cap

[hazy wharf]

probably

[near flower]

Do you have to do it manually every time?

[static isle]

no that's how metastorage work

[hazy wharf]

no why would i

[near flower]

54

[static isle]

no
you bring one part over manually
then V4 can generate it out of thin air

[muted willow]

ty

[hazy wharf]

i did not make any copium part in valley 4

[near flower]

How and why

[static isle]

you make one in Wuling, put it in your bag, move to V4 and put it there

[near flower]

I still have a feeling it is a bug

[smoky eagle]

Dang

[sharp sluice]

Anyone know why the bot one is stuck and the top one isnt cant figure it out?

[hazy wharf]

you dont have to

it metastorage transfer

it GENERATED FROM THIN AIR

[static isle]

yes but you need the one initial part in the V4 depot first

[smoky eagle]

Lol

I can try later

[hazy wharf]

i dont think you understand how metastorage work

[near flower]

Maybe there are items that shouldn't be there? Try to remove reactors and place them again

[static isle]

it doesn't touch the one piece you bring over yes
I know how metastorage work

[smoky eagle]

U can select any item you have obtained already anywhere afaik

[static isle]

why are you not feeding the sewage from the final crucible back
that saves you one line

[smoky eagle]

Yeah it produces sewage alongside xircon

Sugoi desu ne

[sharp sluice]

the liquid xiranite isnt moving out of the reactor

[smoky eagle]

I didn't realize it either

[smoky eagle]

Nah this xircon output doesnt have xiranite

Only effluent

[near flower]

What is the point if there are exactly 4 lines of cuprium that are exactly enough for crucibles?

[static isle]

have u check that the second tier crucibles are outputing the correct stuff

you might be feeding the inert one to the crucible and the good one to the treatment

[smoky eagle]

Inert should be on treatment

[near flower]

Can you show what's inside of them?

[smoky eagle]

Grey sewage can go to effluent maker

[sharp sluice]

that fixed it thanks alot ❤️

[static isle]

yeah u have to make sure ur output is correct
those two look identical from the outside

[uneven aspen]

has anyone figured out how to fit 6 xiranite in the sub aic?

[static isle]

you can't see based on color

[static isle]

we don't even have 6 xiranite

[sharp sluice]

yea i just completely brainfarted

[hazy wharf]

what if we can metastorage the poop tho

[uneven aspen]

we might next update

I can only fit 5 rn so hopefulyl it goes up to 5

[near flower]

Why would you need that now then?

[uneven aspen]

more reason to make it more compact that's all

[near flower]

There should be more outposts in Wuling too later

[uneven aspen]

yeah but if i can shove 6 in 1 sub aic that's better

[cedar bay]

Can someone recommend me the best blueprint for new Wulling factory in 1.1

[hazy wharf]

we wont have to collect poop anymore

[near flower]

Try this one. It's prob the best xiranite production I've seen so far

[lone pebble]

IF U HAVENT FIGURE OUT , beside the pic that the one before me editit it :)) 1 out from the R: is not set (the one that u were sending to W ! )

[static isle]

also if you use my design note that you don't have to output the third sandleaf powder line to storage if you don't want to
save some space but leads to minor sandleaf clogging
I reuse them in SC bats

we can literally only have 4 forges what are u smoking

[muted lichen]

anyone have some tips on how to start produceing xiranite im a bit slow and i desperately need it

[smoky eagle]

u can create good amounts of carbon using jincao

and convert that carbon

[muted lichen]

im also a visual learner ToT

[smoky eagle]

lol

[uneven aspen]

use a yazen or jincao plant generator for the carbon.

[muted lichen]

or audiotry it sucks

[smoky eagle]

there might be a video on it

[muted lichen]

those in wuling correct?

[smoky eagle]

there's also an ingame tutorial how to use Forge Of The Sky

[uneven aspen]

yup

[inland perch]

uh, did the 1.1 not add any new additional originium mining spots to wuling?

[unkempt estuary]

do in-game simulations that u can find on the tech page

[muted lichen]

ik how to use its just a matter of getting the materials for the producing of it

[uneven aspen]

only cuprium mining spots, the ores yields got higher though

[unkempt estuary]

they only added copper mines

[near flower]

Nope. And it's not really a problem. It should be better if they add more ferrium and cuprium

[inland perch]

ohhh the outpost level increased right

[steel shell]

u get the carbon from plants

[kindred raptor]

I think I built a monstrosity of a factory with the new refiner need water

[smoky eagle]

u mainly need Jincao, and Sandleaf

and Water

[uneven aspen]

i found 2 blueprints, 1 bp for a 4xiranite farm that leaves enough space for sub aic and 2 more xiranite farms for 6. So it's possible to fit all 6 in 1 sub aic

[muted lichen]

i have lots of that XD

[near flower]

Jincao/Yazhen

[steel shell]

Since u said you're a visual learner, try looking at this

[static isle]

don't u not need ferrium anymore
the 90 is more than enough since u only use 30/SC batt fac and ur not producing Yazhen C anymore

[steel shell]

someone sent it earlier

[muted lichen]

thx

[uneven aspen]

so if next update is 6 xiranite, the outpost aic gonna be 6 xiranite farm + thermal banks.

[near flower]

I am producing syringes C, otherwise it's not enough for stock bills

[uneven aspen]

im pretty sure syringe A and SC batteries are enough

[smoky eagle]

Yeah

[uneven aspen]

some quick math before optimizing i was +3k more stockbill than needed

i optimized more so its probably more stockbill per hour . . .

[near flower]

I think I will have to send it often xD

[muted lichen]

i need the depots but i need more stock bills and i dont have much resources in wuling to get those said stockbills ToT

[near flower]

Maybe I should post a video about in on YT

[dark parcel]

this is some BS, it wont let me dump the sewage in the river

[static isle]

lemme isolate the units for visual learning

[near flower]

Make the simple production to get xiranite now and get stock bills to upgrade. When you will have max upgrade you can make a proper factory

[static isle]

some ppl are not at outpost lv3 yet
(like me who forgot to bank levels)

[uneven aspen]

looks off? doesnt the 10 SC battery and 5.5 syringe A add up to 39k stockbills?

[smoky eagle]

here is my Xiranite maker

[unkempt estuary]

when u put wuling plants(jincao.yazhen) through refining unit, you get 2 units of carbon. While valley plants give only 1.

then shred one unit of carbon into get two units of carbon powder. then two units of carbon powder and one unit of sandleaf powder goes into grinding unit to produce one unit of carbon block, refining that carbon block gibs 1 unit of stabilized carbon, u mix 2 units of stabilized carbon with 1 unit of water using Forge of the Sky and u get 1 unit of Xiranite

Pretty easy.

[kindred raptor]

Am I the only one or can you not split waste water

[muted lichen]

is the simple one the one they teach you?

[unkempt estuary]

u can lol

[inland perch]

i still need to level my outpost i'm like 30% away from it
idk if pre-farming cuprium and sc battery helps

[steel shell]

u just came to wuling?

[kindred raptor]

How I’ve been using pipe splitters and results in nothing

[near flower]

-1.5 SC battery on power when it calculates the stock bills for them. It seems I also have to add a note to this table xD

[muted lichen]

no i just suck at the factory stuff

[static isle]

-1.5 is too much no?
are u using PWM?

[uneven aspen]

oh . . . i can use 3-4 HC valley batteries from valley since i have surplus so havent bothered considering spending sc wuling batteries for pwoer

[unkempt estuary]

maybe not enough waste

[steel shell]

#1461542035617091681

[near flower]

What? I use 1 thermal bank which spends 1.5 batteries/min

[uneven aspen]

batteries are consumed every 40 seconds

[unkempt estuary]

[static isle]

you don't need the whole 3.2k power of the battery

ever heard of PWM

[unkempt estuary]

its 1.0 though

[uneven aspen]

2minutes = 120 seconds = 3 batteries in 2 mins = 1.5/min

[static isle]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[inland perch]

pulse smth modulator? does it lag ur game tho

[near flower]

I use like 3.76k of power..

[fringe bloom]

Has anyone tried using the protocol stash as an overflow splitter?

[unkempt estuary]

tf new battery gibs 3.2k?

[static isle]

so u use 1 3.2k bat fully
then you don't use the second battery fully

[unkempt estuary]

I never checked the power of it

[static isle]

you can PWM the second battery

[uneven aspen]

how to lower 💀

its like 4.1k with all the towers turned off

[near flower]

1 thermal bank = 1.5 batteries/min btw

[unkempt estuary]

get more thermal banks, u dont have any shortages of batteries do u

[static isle]

the point is you're not feeding the thermal at all times

you let ur power goes down and back up

[uneven aspen]

less manual transfers from valley the better.

[swift ferry]

is max wuling ore 480, 90, and 120?

[muted lichen]

you have a blueprint i can use?

[static isle]

it's a power grid concept
you use chains of splitters to effectively delay batteries

[near flower]

I don't use another thermal bank at all. Initially you have 200 of power, then +3200 one max battery. And I get +400 more with originium (my factory spends only 420 originium, so there are 60 left)

So I spend exactly 1.5 batteries/min out of 10

[inland perch]

how do yall alr have outpost upgraded

[jade temple]

started saving 3 days before patch 😄

[uneven aspen]

or someone i know, didnt log in for 1 week

[inland perch]

damn

[jade temple]

KEKW~1

[near flower]

You could do that by saving stock bills and items for outposts. But I didn't think about that, so my outpost is only lvl 2 lol

[unkempt estuary]

are u in asia?

[inland perch]

wait the so the stockbills before patch can count towards outpost upgrade so 1.1 launch ur instant upgrade outpost bruh

[near flower]

Ik what you mean, but I just don't need that

[uneven aspen]

each time you sell aic product to outpost you get stockbilsl and exp towards outpost level

[muted lichen]

america

[inland perch]

right

[uneven aspen]

outpost level was capped so we gained zero exp before the update

[muted lichen]

cant you make one for a different region?

[cosmic lava]

I'm so mad that it's just barely not possible 😔

[static isle]

like this
I'm using only 2k6 power, so a 3k2 bat + 200 base waste 800 energy per 40s
you effectively waste a full battery per 160s

PWM lets you effectively divide up batteries by using splitters to delay them and your reserve power as the buffer

[unkempt estuary]

here, u can just copy it manually

[unkempt estuary]

ye its not possible, u have to have three reactor crucibles. I tried to make xircon with two, doesnt work.

[static isle]

you need 5 for optimal
one zircon crucible takes 2 effluent crucibles, which in turn took 2 xiranite crucibles

[unkempt estuary]

damn

[ebon tree]

how do i make this make 2 liquid xiranite

i have 2 xiranite belts feeding it

[unkempt estuary]

the total setup takes two lines of xiranite inputs?

[static isle]

you don't
one crucible only output 1 xiranite line in term of speed

[near flower]

Eh, how your power usage is so small?

[ebon tree]

rip

how many facilities can one water pump feed?

[near flower]

Usually facilities spend only 30 water/min and pump gives you 60/min

[ebon tree]

ok thanks

[near flower]

I think it's not too difficult math for you lmao

[ebon tree]

it was a bit confusing bc pipes say they can transport 2/sec

but a pump only produces 1/sec

[near flower]

You can converge pipes from 2 pumps

[static isle]

it doesn't matter
the point is as long as you're using direct output you're wasting batteries unless you can tightly fit exactly that power
like I have 2k6 power so a 3k2 battery is wasteful and I can save it via PWM
you have over 4k power so one 3k2 power is not enough but two is overkill so you can again easily save on that second battery via PWM instead of using originite for the difference

[ebon tree]

ok that makes sense, thanks

[near flower]

.

[static isle]

for example like this

[near flower]

Bro, did you read that?

[static isle]

the point is using originium for the difference is ineffective when you can use that originium for more batteries and then throttle your battery use

[near flower]

Do you understand I lose batteries for sell like that?

So using originium for power IS effective

Cause I don't really need that 60 originium for anything else

If I use more batteries - I won't get enough stock bills from the outpost anymore

[static isle]

I'm assuming you're having one SC fac and one LC fac which is the same as me (420/480) so you have those 60 left over
but by the time you get to outpost 3 you should be having two SC facs
which is a clean 480

[near flower]

You need more materials to craft batteries than just oiginium. You also need ferrium btw

[static isle]

you have 90
one battery fac only use one ferrium line which is 30
two gives you 60

[near flower]

No, I use this layout

It spends all the xiranite, ferrium, cuprium and you have 60 originium left. Also you get both components at 1/min speed and get all the stock bills from the outpost

[near flower]

Two SC facs is ineffective because you spend all 120 xiranite and don't get any comps

[static isle]

you should only run components up to a certain point
then turn them off and make 12 SC + 6 yazhen A

you make far more components than you can spend because artificing catalyst is the throttle in gearing

[near flower]

But if you spend componemts they won't replenish

And if you will need them you have to change factory again

Here you don't need to do that

[trail mirage]

im gonna change the factory once i hit about 80k sc batterys

[near flower]

Why?

[trail mirage]

then i can make compents for a while

[marble marsh]

Alright guys on a scale of 1 to 10 how scuffed are the wuling factories now

[trail mirage]

also when making compoents, you dont need batteries for power

[trail mirage]

3ish?

[uneven aspen]

easier than before the update for wuling atleast

[trail mirage]

i mean just plug some plumming into each other and we good

[marble marsh]

That's pretty good my current factories are at minimum a 7 of the scuffed scale I'm reworking then tomorow

[near flower]

Your points sounds reasonable but still have disadvantages. I think creating a wider range of items for the same resources is better

[trail mirage]

wifi water makes stuff real neat

[marble marsh]

I'm willing to believe that

[uneven aspen]

cuprium to make syringe A and gearing is very barebones, so you only have to figure out sc battery, while before the update, figuring out xiranite, syringe c, xiranite component, lc battery took a while

[trail mirage]

it took me a long time to understand how much fluids i need bec they pump fast and consumes slow

[near flower]

I have to craft both syringes A and C, SC batteries, and both components lol

[uneven aspen]

same, what I usually do is screenshot the chain

then copy paste formulas underneath

and figure out how much i need of everything before building

[static isle]

arguable, but that's not the main point I'm arguing here
my point is you using those extra 60 originium to make up the power difference works for now but is a bad habit because of possible future expansions and change in resources
and you should really learn power management concepts like PWM and priority belt

[near flower]

Just calculate yield and usage per minute

[trail mirage]

always just wing it

then my facotry was fked bec i build it at 3am and was cooked by the time i got up

[near flower]

Bro, I CAN'T use these 60 originium for bats cause I already use all of the other resources. And new updates probably will just require full rework

[uneven aspen]

^^ i cleared both aic and sub aic

[trail mirage]

use them for power

[near flower]

I do, that's what I was talking about

[near flower]

And I used splitters and convergers pretty much so I know what you're talking about. But it just doesn't work in my case

[trail mirage]

is it time to sell :v

[near flower]

Bro

Don't you buy anything?

[trail mirage]

ye i just dont sell

[lament lily]

there's no use for inert xircon, right? only for sewage to make xircon?

[trail mirage]

you can fill it up

[lament lily]

my brain was hurting for like 30 minutes straight just looking at the sc wuling battery recipe ngl

[ebon tree]

what do you guys think of my factory? It outputs 30 xircon and cuprium parts per minute (not space efficient, couldnt care less)

[near flower]

Thankfully there are no recipes like in satisfactory yet

[ebon tree]

all this space just for 2 belts of materials

[lament lily]

that game was hurting my head just trying to figure out how to insert the first complicated recipe for the space station thing because its 3d and everything was taking up insane amounts of space compared to factorio

[trail mirage]

what are you using the 30 other xircon for

[ebon tree]

its only producing 30

so far im not using it for anything, i dont have time to set up the battery production today

[trail mirage]

bettery isnt too hard, you should have plenty of space in your aic

[ebon tree]

yeah im just gonna use my previous battery setup but add another dense powder line

i have more than enough batteries stored to make the transition seamless

[near flower]

I've dropped on like tier 8 because crafts get too crazy

[harsh talon]

anyone else producing way too much cuprium ore than yall can handle?

i'm using 30/m and running out of space

[smoky eagle]

nyaa

[trail mirage]

just make parts if you have extra, then try to figure out the problem

[harsh talon]

i mean like can handle to use the waste to make something actually useful

[smoky eagle]

this new stuff is a mess with the pipes lmao

[trail mirage]

use these

[smoky eagle]

this is at Jingyu

only have 4 here

[lament lily]

does this mean i'm using 120/min originium? i dont remember how much the old batteries used, but i recall they used 90/min

[smoky eagle]

oh shit

[ebon tree]

yes thats right

[smoky eagle]

Conduit

yeahhhh dang

[trail mirage]

240

[ebon tree]

oh yeah i forgot dense powder requires 60 powder mb

yeah it will use all of the orignium in wuling so far

[lament lily]

oh lord thats a stupid amount

[ebon tree]

and the space required to make xircon is insane (im using my entire stockade factory

[near flower]

Like what even is that

[crimson inlet]

tangtang is still poor

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[near flower]

I hope they won't make crafts like this one in Endfield

[lament lily]

i mean, it only uses one forge, for 1x6/min lc wulings, no?

needing 2 feels off

[trail mirage]

endfield in 6.7

[ebon tree]

to produce 30 xircon/min you need 2 forges

i think

[lament lily]

this makes 30/min

[near flower]

At least it doesn't include logistics

[ancient pier]

need help, does the pipe splitter will prioritize filling 1 line of pipe or does it split it evenly? Just to make sure that the last treatment facility only get 7.5 sewage/min and not 30

[ebon tree]

if you only want 3 batteries a min then you only need one forge

[lament lily]

5x6 is 30 though?

am i missing something?

[near flower]

But you need 60 liquid so it's 60 xiranite (2 forges)

[lament lily]

ah

thats what i was missing

[crimson inlet]

Endfield 5.0 will replace all depots with a facility than requires you to send specific items /j

[nova osprey]

bet

[near flower]

It split's evenly but if facility will spend less then it receives then it will fill and excess won't go through the splitter and divides to other pipes

[ebon tree]

endfield 1.2 will allow protocol stashes to output from the depot (cope)

[ancient pier]

so does that last treatment facility gonna always consume 30/min or just 30/min until it's clogged so the splitter works and reverts to 7.5/min?

[smoky eagle]

whhaaaa imperfect cross noooooo

[unkempt estuary]

thats satanic cross

[near flower]

Tbh I don't really understand your scheme. What does Yazhen Sewage means? Yazhen doesn't produce sewage or I'm missing something?

[ancient pier]

yazhen syringe A sewage

[near flower]

For cuprium?

[crimson inlet]

GOD I LOVE CONDUITS

[ancient pier]

yes

[near flower]

Isn't it 30 each?

[ancient pier]

by using splitter so it only uses 7/8 input it could be reduced to 26.5

[near flower]

Why would you need that anyway?

You have to refine all 120 cuprium

[nova osprey]

im guessing components

[near flower]

You can refine it and just use later

It would be easier

You can split refined cuprium instead of ore

[lament lily]

how much liquid do pipes hold, same as belts? (30/min, unless im wrong about how much belts transport)

[ancient pier]

To make a toggleable base that can switch from making

• 10.5 SC Battery
• 5.25 Yazhen Syringe A
• 3 Yazhen Syringe C (2.5 ferrium surplus using metastorage trasfer)
• 1.5 Cuprium Component
  into
• 12 SC Battery
• 6 Yazhen Syringe A
• 3 Yazhen Syringe C (5 ferrium deficit using metastorage transfer)

[near flower]

120

[near flower]

Why would you switch it?

[unreal laurel]

are thw new miners betters than the olds ones?

[ancient pier]

why not
I like making things complicated

[near flower]

Look at this one

[unreal laurel]

or do i just need them for the cuprium ones

someone tell me before i get a repeat of v4 miners

[near flower]

Only cuprium and it requires water

[near flower]

I mean you can use it but it's not like you really need that amout of items

[ancient pier]

Only if u are trying to minmax ur power usage

[jagged scroll]

What is this nonsense`? My power died again randomly...

[unreal laurel]

u power cycling?

[jagged scroll]

Nope, and stats from 7days. I dind't touch anything.

[unreal laurel]

u using wuling batts straight off the belt?

[near flower]

Perhaps there's something wrong with your factory and it doesn't produce enough batteries

[unreal laurel]

if your power dies,itll cut battery production which cuts power

any need sub pac?

if this guy is somehow using 5.7k power when im on 1.6k pre 1.1,i dont think i got enough room

[normal prawn]

is this enough for a lvl3 right?

[near flower]

I don't think it's Wuling tbh

[unreal laurel]

maybe

he just showed his wuling management stats so idk

[digital bramble]

Holly crap it hadn't even occured to me to replace them all... I'm assuming you can't use hydro miners in the valley?

[lusty violet]

it was v4 tab he showed, but yeah idk

[jagged scroll]

In my main base I make Buck As and spare amethyst into Citrome C. Each sub pac makes Batteries.

[unreal laurel]

whats cuprium doing in the v4 tab

[near flower]

Can't you use it only for cuprium?

[earnest steeple]

No water in v4. So no.

[earnest steeple]

No, works for everything. You can check the library.

[jagged scroll]

Kickstarting my base with spare batteries made them all work flawlessly again.

[digital bramble]

funny amethyst is there though...

[unreal laurel]

is there a new subpac?

or do i need to drag a powerline all the way to qingbo?

[digital bramble]

powerlines

[unreal laurel]

bruhhhh

[lone pebble]

parkour is overrated :))

[jagged scroll]

?

[lone pebble]

u were at reply ! sry 🙂 dident mean to

[near flower]

Ohh, so there is a difference in power consumption between new and old miners? I just usually didn't care

[near flower]

How much do you spend?

[unreal laurel]

any old ore spots getting a new node?

[jagged scroll]

Do you mean in the game? about.. 45bucks?

[digital bramble]

they use no power at all and require 1 water per 3 sec per ore, therefore a single 10 power pump can run I think 6 by itself, which means its a pretty substantial power reduction, on average less than 2 power per miner.

[near flower]

No, I mean batteries

[ancient pier]

u can use it on all of them, replaced all my rig(all of them was mk2) and saved about 200 pwr

[near flower]

That's actually huge, I will use it later, thx

[jagged scroll]

5 to hit my needed energy. Usage currently double from jumpstarting it from dead.

[near flower]

It's 6 batteries/min. Do you have 2 or 3 of these productions?

[jagged scroll]

My emergency jumpstarter. That's why

Without the jumpstarter. My energy is at max usage, since I use bunch of turrets for essence grinding.

Maybe the game is glitching out, if both are same numbers?

[near flower]

I don't think so

[jagged scroll]

I removed one turret just in case.

It happened with the 1.1 update once before too. At the start, never before.

[near flower]

I can see 10 thermal banks so it should consume 15 batteries but somehow it is 16

[nova osprey]

holy energy usage

[jagged scroll]

Zipline and turret maxing

[nova osprey]

turrets are better powered with stacks of batteries

[jagged scroll]

Right I saw that tip before. I forgot about that.

Do they constantly use batteries, or only when they shoot?

[latent pendant]

Can anyone confirm the maximum yields of ore in wuling? I wanna start working on a factory on my own. Is it 90 ferrium, 480 originium, n 120 copper?

[nova osprey]

yeah instead of using consistent power, you need like 1 HC battery per turret per 10 rounds, or one SC wuling battery per turret per 30 rounds, if you rely solely on turrets

[near flower]

Yes

[nova osprey]

only on shoot

[jagged scroll]

Neat

[nova osprey]

yeah, it's very convenient

[jagged scroll]

480 originium?

[nova osprey]

480 yes

[jagged scroll]

Pretty sure I got everything and region lvl8

[nova osprey]

yeap, ive also been turret maxing, gonna need to setup the new wuling alluvium for exp farming soon

since it seems pretty good

[near flower]

Check last column

[nova osprey]

whats your theoretical yield at?

[jagged scroll]

560

[near flower]

Originium?

[lusty violet]

yield

[near flower]

Can you show all columns?

[jagged scroll]

Forgot to switch to wuling on last reply. Doing daily in Valley 4 currently.

[near flower]

It's 480

[jagged scroll]

Wait.. is Depot max 58k then currently?

[nova osprey]

yeah you're already maxed, its just your depot is capped

[nova osprey]

yes

[near flower]

It shows 420 yield in current data since you spend less than you yield, you get cap of ore in your depot and miners stop working

[jagged scroll]

Oooh more compensation again? DId that just arrive?

[smoky eagle]

Some few hours ago

[unreal laurel]

does 1pump:2mines work?

or is that inefficient?

[kindred raptor]

timed sanity is something

Idea:Manufacture sanity

[unreal laurel]

?

[near flower]

1 pump = 60 water/min
1 low purity nod = 10/min
1 high purity nod = 20/min

[unreal laurel]

anyone?

[unreal laurel]

so 1:3?

[latent pendant]

I’m barely emptying the valley 4 outposts. My current yields are 18 buck cap A, 10 buck cap C, 24 amethyst parts, about 5-9 check valley batteries.

What yields would work?

[latent pendant]

I do 1:3

[near flower]

Depends on node's purity, but yeah

[near flower]

Since pipe's capacity is 120 - you can just make 2 pumps and converge into one pipe, then split into 6 miners

[near flower]

Why do you make amethyst parts?

[trail mirage]

i do 1:2 should be fine

[trail mirage]

bulk c

or citri c is better

[jagged scroll]

I usually do 18 HC battieres, 18buck As, And the rest is Citrome C. They accept Citrome version in every outpost instead of buck C

[near flower]

Isn't it the same?

[latent pendant]

Just to use the unused amethysts.

[near flower]

.

[trail mirage]

no you get a little more

[near flower]

You can make 24 buck C

[nova osprey]

yes 1 to 3

[jagged scroll]

Only refugee camp accept Buck C but every camp takes Citrome C for your spare amethyst.

[nova osprey]

no it's the same. but citrome can be traded everywhere but buck can only be done at v4 pass

[unreal laurel]

so this is the longterm answer

2 pumps with 3split for 6mines

[nova osprey]

yes

[jagged scroll]

That's what I did, seems to work well.

[nova osprey]

correct

it's the same ratios as the machines

1 pump = 2 machine worth of input

so 60/min

[unreal laurel]

only 2 new ore nodes?

[nova osprey]

yes

120/min copium

[unreal laurel]

did some old spots get an extra node?

[nova osprey]

no but increased purity

[unreal laurel]

the regional dev lvl thing

[near flower]

I mean, if there would be 6 low purity nodes then you could use only 1 pump

[smoky eagle]

Only originium

Gets high purity

[unreal laurel]

itll be high afterwards

[near flower]

Not all of them

[smoky eagle]

ferrium in shambles

[unreal laurel]

eventually

[nova osprey]

I'm high

[smoky eagle]

On potenuse

[near flower]

I don't think all nodes in Valley 4 are high purity either, but maybe I'm wrong