aic-factory

[marble yarrow]

i wont change them to hydro

[indigo silo]

ive been wondering this for a while, why does a Protocol Stash base item need an exit port? can you set it to pull things from depot to put on a conveyer belt?

[marble yarrow]

exit port just an extra

[indigo silo]

thats sooo weird though, be nice if it could be a portable unloader

[jade temple]

How many mining hydro rigs can 1 pump manage ?

[young stag]

tfw

[upper fiber]

you can place item control on output to control what you let out

[arctic vortex]

It took me 2 hours to fit 4 forges in this tiny space

[junior kelp]

the ratio miner pump is 1:3 right ?

[crude nebula]

Yes

[dark furnace]

you can set it to storage mode, and make it like a temp output for max 300 output in case you forgot to come back and turn the auto output off. I use that to make xiranite bottles sometimes.

[marble yarrow]

depends.

high purity consumes 1/3 of a pump
low purity consume 1/6 of a pump

mix and match to achieve a total of 1

[upper fiber]

and you need more space for plant factory on other place as well

[ancient pier]

guys i forgor, conduit can take up to 120/min of liquid sam as pipe right?

[cobalt oriole]

FINALLY FIGURED OUT MY AIC BUG

[toxic forge]

or just use 1 pump for 3 miners and dont worry about it further

[marble yarrow]

2/s = 120/min

yes

[pulsar cypress]

Same like me before implementing thr hydro pump..

[dark furnace]

this applies to anything you don't want a production line to be automated

[winter hazel]

Does anyone know or can link me to a 1.1 LC Battery and Medicine Wuling Factory?
All the ones I find are either 2 Forge LC factories or 4 forge SC Battery. I can't see a 4 forge Lc battery and Medicine facotry.

[marble yarrow]

yeah, thats the minimum

[lavish raft]

rate my abomination

[novel herald]

@marble yarrow 1 pump can power 3 rigs right?

[toxic forge]

2/10 not enough pylons

[marble yarrow]

rigs meaning hydro?

[novel herald]

Yes

[marble yarrow]

use this:

high purity consumes 1/3 of a pump
low purity consume 1/6 of a pump

mix and match to achieve a total of 1

[dark furnace]

I seperated the xiranite production just in case

[novel herald]

Where do the sewage pipe goes? :/

[lavish raft]

tianshi's office

[novel herald]

Aye thanks

[cobalt oriole]

My xircon was going into the packager on odd seconds so I would lose 1s of time consistently. This led to my power being 1s slow every time a battery entered. I waited till the unit capped on zircon to perfectly align with the timer and it finally runs smoothly

[novel herald]

💀 💀 💀 💀

[marble yarrow]

so you can:

3 high
2 high 2 low
1 high 4 low
6 low

[dark furnace]

to Zhuang's office

[novel herald]

Got itttt

[thick matrix]

man, thats kinda nuts for the new battery, are they even worth it

[lavish raft]

i still have to fix the sewage part

[toxic forge]

yes

[lavish raft]

just wanted to mess around myself for once instead of going straight to blueprint

[cobalt oriole]

Note that this only really matter if you can’t get it below 3.4k. Once you drop below it you don’t have to bother being too optimised

[marble yarrow]

you are forced to do it if your outpost is level 3

the outpost generates more than double bills than level 2

so you chase it

[dark furnace]

it's just a byproduct for us to make better meds

[toxic forge]

unlimited power

[cobalt oriole]

I got my setup to fit in a 33 x 62 if you want it

Asia though

It’s a 12/min

[novel herald]

They are needed to fulfill outpost's needs

[abstract jungle]

max efficiency ?

[cobalt oriole]

Mhm max efficiency

[toxic forge]

if you do 12/min you cant do new components though

[cobalt oriole]

BUT IT USES BOTH BUS DEPOTS

[half heron]

more power, better trade offer

[cobalt oriole]

THATS THE ONLY ISSUE

[marble yarrow]

yeah i just set it up for this and left 1 spot unchanged

[lost lantern]

There’s a pool of poisonous water, what do I do with it?

[marble yarrow]

im below 3.1 k

[toxic forge]

drink

[cobalt oriole]

Water treatment

[abstract jungle]

Mine is 53 x 27 pretty proud of it

[cobalt oriole]

That’s only half of it

Mine is 33x62 12/min

[abstract jungle]

wdym ?

[cobalt oriole]

2 separate lines

[jade temple]

pump into water treatment

[cobalt oriole]

But I have external Sandleaf, sewage and xiranite production

This is what it looks like but doubled and rotated

[abstract jungle]

I'm pretty sure it's as efficient as mine

[cobalt oriole]

So it’s 2 parellel but 180% lines of battery

[novel herald]

We need flex channel....

[cobalt oriole]

The other side is from the other line is the thing

The full line is straight

The other side of the depot is the mirror parellel

[marble yarrow]

btw i like splitting SC by depot unloading xiranite and dense origs

[abstract jungle]

hmmm...

[cobalt oriole]

Lemme try to get a better pic but the img size is too big

When I use pc

[pulsar cypress]

[abstract jungle]

OOOOOOH I SEEE

[cobalt oriole]

Here are the 2 halves

Of my setup

[abstract jungle]

You re-use the sewage used in the first crucible

okok

yeah I'm not doing that

[cobalt oriole]

You reuse both actually

Only need external 60/min

Then both internals produce 30/min each

[abstract jungle]

okok I see the vision

[glad needle]

@marble yarrow how did you do your conduits around this mine

[abstract jungle]

that's originium ore, you dont need water over there

[glad needle]

uh

water doesnt cost energy

so yea i will use water

[marble yarrow]

less power usage

[abstract jungle]

WAIT YOU CAN USE WATER DRILLS ON EVERY ORE ?

[glad needle]

yesir

[abstract jungle]

Bruh

[upper fiber]

just not worth it on 2 ori mine

[marble yarrow]

i took some before it went before the conduit

[glad needle]

and it doesnt cost energy

[marble yarrow]

dont mind my long pipe

[abstract jungle]

I'm gonna redo every mine in my world then, thank's guys

[cobalt oriole]

Here’s my setup after stitching

[upper fiber]

uh remember you need fluid pump and pylon as well

[hybrid path]

Something that just came to mind but it's something I'm curious about, is there anyway you can mass clear your aic base? If you wanted to start over with a different layout?

My wuling bases are both pretty packed but I'm having different ideas of what I want to try

[marble yarrow]

hydro mine saving

[cobalt oriole]

Bulk select and ctrl + f

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wait-what-28

https://klipy.com/gifs/thanos-43

[pulsar cypress]

Isnt it better to use one depot core in the middle than use 2 at each end?

This way ur depot sealed no?
Need to edit to extend for other use?

If only one in middle, the other core can be place at other places for other need?

[cobalt oriole]

I would but I wanted to run a Sandleaf powder between them

You can do that if you shred the Sandleaf externally

[empty cargo]

How do i start my aic progression in wuling?

[cobalt oriole]

Get a forge of the sky asap

That’s the most important

[empty cargo]

I already got that nd also maxed 1st layer of aic upgrade for wuling

[cobalt oriole]

Ok then produced LC bats until you hit lvl 3 outpost

[pulsar cypress]

Get forge, make xyranite..
Mine all the ores coz its the base of production..

[empty cargo]

I see I see

Do the pylons from valley 4 also work in wuling?

[marble yarrow]

time for some crazy ass pipelaying

[empty cargo]

Is that the purple battery?

[pulsar cypress]

Use wuling pylons coz its auto connecting..
A lot easier to progress.

[empty cargo]

Okay okay

And the mining rigs are still the same right?

[pulsar cypress]

Yass for now.. Mk for origin, mk2 for ferrium..

[prisma hound]

annoying ahh new battery setup of mine

[cobalt oriole]

New greens

[crude nebula]

For the 2-nodes only, why dont use the regular mk 1?

[empty cargo]

Ohhh

[prisma hound]

i can optimize it but im lazy rn

[empty cargo]

Tbh im kinda stuck in a rut after starting wuling

[indigo silo]

hmm you could definitely optomize that, make it take up less space

[empty cargo]

I dunno how i did it with valley 4 but i feel like it's harder to start in wuling lmao

[prisma hound]

ye ik
but it doesnt matter because u can only really have one of the new battery setup

[crude nebula]

We need to have HC wuling bat to talk about optimization

[prisma hound]

well technically 2 but u already use 1 grass for the disks

[shrewd sigil]

is thsi tuff

[prisma hound]

and left 1 out for the powerlines

[shrewd sigil]

im at 30 mil

[crude nebula]

Doesnt laeva get 3 bonuses at refugee camp?

[empty cargo]

Anyways thanks @pulsar cypress

[prisma hound]

due to how expensive the new battery is + how strong it is, u shouldnt really run more than one setup for this lol

[crude nebula]

I put gilberta and yvonne on 2nd and 3rd camp, both get all 3-bonuses

[pulsar cypress]

Place lae in refugee

[dark furnace]

yea

[marble yarrow]

ok its way above head level. non-intrusive

[quartz sinew]

am i the only one or for some reason i aint getting 480 yield 🥀

[uneven aspen]

Do pipes flow in a certain order?

Im trying to make sure there's no blockage.

Pipe of sewage -> pipe spliter at reactor crubille->pipes continues to another pipe splitter at 2nd reactor -> pipe continues to water treatment.

Assuming the reactors are 90% operational will they still get priority on the sewage while the rest are treated?

[quartz sinew]

i had to cut down originium usage since it was being used up

im alr wuling lvl 9 btw

[crude nebula]

Missing some nodes probably

[vapid dock]

it will always split 1/2

[quartz sinew]

bro, i went around all of wuling to check im using mining rig mk 2 and did in fact use all mining spots 😭

[crude nebula]

I want to rework both AICs so bad, but my outpost still at lvl 2

[uneven aspen]

that sounds abotu right

hmm i still think it will be fine then, oh well gonna test it out and check back in an hour to see if my aic is messed up again 😔

[calm scarab]

@quartz sinew Pipe works like how splitter splits the flow

[quartz sinew]

uh wrong ping?

[crude nebula]

Any smoke screen on map?

Iirc some nodes are hidden in the smoke screen

[quartz sinew]

Oh what

[calm scarab]

Ah sorry, accident

[quartz sinew]

yh nws haha

[crude nebula]

Or just not powered rig probably

[glad needle]

how do you split this

[quartz sinew]

ts the only spot i didnt touch

[uneven aspen]

so i have 1 xiranite being split into 3, so 1 reactor crucible will be making less liquid xiranite which means the reactor cruible that takes liquid xiranite + sewage will be backed up by sewage

so I hope adding the water treatment to the sewage piping will solve that

[crude nebula]

Yeah there

[quartz sinew]

whaaaaaat 😭 💀

[crude nebula]

Smack the fake wall

[quartz sinew]

r we fr

[pulsar cypress]

Yeaa.. There's ore in there..

[quartz sinew]

oh ffs 🥀

ight tysm guys 😭

ig time to look for that spot

[calm scarab]

If you branch out into 3 pathways with a main and sub branch, the flow unit distribution will be 1/s, 0.5/s, 0.5/s.

You can imagine that distribution with the splitter

[marble yarrow]

peak

[shut jetty]

Anyone have blueprints?

[marble yarrow]

pump 1 = 3 high ferrium
pump 2 split to 2:

1 path to splitter of 3 low ferrium,
1 path to conduit

[crude nebula]

Endmin lore accurate gameplay: send pipes everywhere in wuling

[glad needle]

aight

[toxic forge]

ok. i think im done. no idea what else i could build

[unkempt estuary]

piping in this day and age of conduits

[quartz sinew]

erm ok... that area i was onto, is that a quest or

[crude nebula]

Nope just fake wall

[quartz sinew]

oh bruh

HOLY

im such a dumbo

[crude nebula]

Smack that thing

[quartz sinew]

i ran past that wall so many times

😭

[marble yarrow]

free protocol capacity is real

[quartz sinew]

[crude nebula]

There you go

[uneven aspen]

normal xiranite components?

[quartz sinew]

ty btw

[toxic forge]

i have like 70 originium/min left to spend and nothing to do with it

[crude nebula]

Eat it raw or sniff it in the dust form

[toxic forge]

good idea

[crude nebula]

Youll gain art power

[calm scarab]

You shall truly become MC

[crude nebula]

Isekaid

[toxic forge]

would endmin grow if they ate raw originium

[crude nebula]

Time to find out

[marble yarrow]

cinema

[crude nebula]

For the love of 20 power, its the same as using 2 of mk 1 rig

[toxic forge]

maybe thats how the thing in the trailer happened. they ate too much

[crude nebula]

But i'd done the same

I hadnt done the 5 plot tho

[jovial breach]

But you still need 1 pipe

[calm scarab]

Every little changes just to save power

[prisma hound]

🥀

[marble yarrow]

what 1 pipe

[crude nebula]

Already spend more than 12 hours today, both the whole story and some factory

[hollow dock]

The origium package needed for Xiranite comps for when you need them/fits in deliveries too

[jovial breach]

That's 7 nodes, 2 pumps is 6 pipes

[calm scarab]

Nani? We cannot discharge sewage into swimming pool?

[prisma hound]

nope

[toxic forge]

yeah... i guess i could balance the 2 component types..

[prisma hound]

my plan of turning wuling into india failed

[crude nebula]

Nope

[prisma hound]

🥀

[crude nebula]

There's 1 made by the dev in the new map tho

With 800 sizes

You need to clear it to get the chest

[jovial breach]

Really?

[prisma hound]

o there's a dischargable vlaue thingy now

annoyingly

[marble yarrow]

its working. lmao

[jovial breach]

What... How

[prisma hound]

yeah all the new liquid can not be discharge

that sucks

[crude nebula]

Is it because when the pipe becomes too long, the storage inside the pipe still count as 1 thing?

Like real liquid mechanic

[marble yarrow]

7 spots

4 high 3 low

1 pump for 3 high (1/3 x 3)
1 pump for 1 high 3 low (1/3 + 1/2)

[crude nebula]

Oh i see

[jovial breach]

The purity affects the speed?

[marble yarrow]

yes

[jovial breach]

Hell nah

[marble yarrow]

ok so all my wuling mineral nodes are hydro-based LMAOOOOOOOOOO

[crude nebula]

When wuling reached lvl 12, it'll become a problem again tho

Every nodes will be high purity

[jovial breach]

Yeah you gotta redo them when next patch drops

[marble yarrow]

reduced energy for the rest of the patch? great

[crude nebula]

Bruh

[jovial breach]

It's fine i can accept 10 more power

[marble yarrow]

means i can store so much SC until next version

[glad needle]

this is the endfield endgame that have been promised 3000 years ago

[crude nebula]

Just to emptied the only outpost

[marble yarrow]

oop

[crude nebula]

Yeah, my wife is typing

[hollow dock]

Yeah I was gonna say this is optimizing for the sake of optimization since the outpost caps our income anyways right

[lone pebble]

soo ! they updated 😄 we cant put depo outside any more ! good thing the ones that already are ! remain`s on the same possition 😄

[crude nebula]

Yeah just for the optimization

[vast iron]

Must be under 3400 power usage

[indigo silo]

what is wrong with the naming system of this game? i shrunk the name of this blue print down to a single letter and it still says it contains prohibited characters, started with "Xirinite Dry Plants"

[vast iron]

Considering the sewage treatment requirements

[inland perch]

is there an easier way to connect all the hydro mining rigs like i used two fluid pumps and converged them to provide enough fluid to all hydro rigs or can u use that new underground water method is that better

[marble yarrow]

most hated thing

[jovial breach]

This is so peak

[marble yarrow]

0.5/s treatment for 50 power fuk u mean

[hollow dock]

I'm comfy at 4k lol

[inland perch]

can u use the underground fluid inlet for hydro rigs

[crude nebula]

I'm at 4.49k

[vast iron]

Next patch they introduce the new fluid thats gonna be made from literally doing anything and takes 17 treatment plants to take care of

[prisma hound]

Btw news for the unemployed

u can no longer put an item in the 2x2 conveyer loop

[vast iron]

I predict

[prisma hound]

it actually just remove the item downright

[indigo silo]

dont worry about that, it takes 6 seconds to mine the rock and the water pump puts out 1/sec so just 1 pump can sustain 6 mine spots

[uneven aspen]

is it possible to use up 100% of the cuprium bottle and parts?

I have a feeling one of them is gonna eventually reach depot cap and then the battery production dies . . .

[jovial breach]

How tf you have 3.1k

Do you not have any ziplines

[crude nebula]

He powered defence tower with batteries probably

[jovial breach]

Even with no Ziplines it still too low

[vast iron]

Oh has anyone tested how much the SC wuling gives in a turret

[marble yarrow]

31 zipline (some are unpowered) like 2 or 3

[inland perch]

idk why but mines wont get enough after using splitters so used two pumps

[vast iron]

50 lasts us like 10 years now trust

[inland perch]

like 5 out of 6 rigs work so i need an extra pump

[cobalt oriole]

Mine is 3.3k so not far off tbh. Just deactivate some of the useless stuff

[devout plover]

How do I connect these to the pump?

[uneven aspen]

tab ->z -> resource tab -> pipe splitter if you need those.

else just press q and pipe

[gentle ember]

Question regarding the hydro rigs, Are they better than the regular mining rigs or should I only use them on cuprium

[jovial breach]

Press Q lol

[vast iron]

You can put pipes outside aix area

[prisma hound]

i am not joking btw

the ones from prev ver will still exist so keep it as a relic

[inland perch]

uh i jus oriented the input header of each in way of pump then used splitters and stitched together
i was under the impression that the new underground inlet thing does it better but i alr did mines

[devout plover]

Where do I access it, I'm using mobile

[toxic forge]

tragic

[marble yarrow]

well, i just did this

now

[prisma hound]

wut

[inland perch]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-chen-qianyu-gif-10239037894987106116

[prisma hound]

then why is it blocked in my side

[marble yarrow]

imma record

[indigo silo]

what area is this? wuling or valley 4?

[stark osprey]

I need to stop with making tiny ah production lines

[prisma hound]

o nvm ye it worked

ig u cant just put it directly now

[prisma hound]

wack ahh bug

[marble yarrow]

wuling

[indigo silo]

how is it so low? one wuling battery line is what i use for power and it gets me to 6.2k power

[marble yarrow]

i use 2 HC + 1 LC wuling

[prisma hound]

is bro using the 2nd tier battery

[toxic forge]

this is my wuling power

[prisma hound]

o

[indigo silo]

this is my wuling

how is your so low

[prisma hound]

just make an SC battery setup

[toxic forge]

i use one tier 2 wuling battery and one blue battery

[inland perch]

oh shit how do i dispose of sewage im not gonna pollute the river am i

[prisma hound]

water treatment unit

also u cant dump sewage water

[marble yarrow]

the benefits of overproducing before 1.1

[indigo silo]

water treatment unit, gotta keep environment clean

[inland perch]

damn i was going dump it

[prisma hound]

i wish u can discharge the sewage water tho

🥀

[toxic forge]

i cant discharge no more

i wonder how much more tier 3 qinbo stockade produces

do i even need all these batteries

[indigo silo]

not really

[jovial breach]

Definitely can get it below 3.4k

[indigo silo]

just have one good line for power, rest to sell for monies

[inland perch]

nah im too lazy rn imma stash it then put it back on boom sewage gone

[toxic forge]

i use 900 power even without the factory

[jovial breach]

Changing all the old rigs to water rigs save you at least 200 power

Delete syringe C production too

It's not really needed

[indigo silo]

do you use 4 thermal banks at end of your battery feed? banks use batteries over 40 seconds and each battery comes out every 10 seconds

[toxic forge]

i just load them up and set up banks somewhere else. outputs are not a problem in wuling

[jovial breach]

No i just put 1 thermal bank somewhere else

All batteries go into stash

[indigo silo]

yeap thats why your power is so low

[jovial breach]

Wut

[devout plover]

where do I access pipes?

[jovial breach]

Press Q

Bro didn't read 💀

[indigo silo]

before 1.1, i had 2 battery production lines, 1 for power 1 for sale, everyday i got 20k batteries to sell. also had a line for medicine for more sales

[devout plover]

bro Im using phone

didnt read

[toxic forge]

?? you had 4 power banks going out of 1 battery line?

[jovial breach]

Lmao sorry didn't notice

[toxic forge]

thats so many wasted batteries

[jovial breach]

On phone you need to change to aic mode

[novel herald]

Press tab, u're still at explore mode

[jovial breach]

Tap top left

[novel herald]

Or if u're on phone yea, tap top left

[devout plover]

got it

thanks

[novel herald]

Then Q

[indigo silo]

no thats how it works, 40 seconds to use a battery and packaging unit can put them out every 10 secs, so you can use 4 banks and the power stays consistent, i never drop below 6.6k power

[jovial breach]

It's not consistent btw

[toxic forge]

yes but you can also have 4 outputs. 3 going into a stash and 1 going into a power bank

[indigo silo]

it is, my power never drops

[toxic forge]

you dont neek 6k power ever

[jovial breach]

It's consistent on paper, but it is not in practice

[marble yarrow]

yeah, when your online

[inland perch]

is it possible for someone to make a sewage blueprint ts sux

[toxic forge]

i have the same setup in valley 4 and it has never turned off

[novel herald]

I missed the chat

[novel herald]

What paper r we discussing here

[indigo silo]

thats the best part, i dont need more power, meaning for the rest of Wuling coming out, i can just add, never subtract from base

[toxic forge]

sure but youre kinda wasting resources

[marble yarrow]

i love the cope

but

it is what it is

[indigo silo]

its future proofing

[marble yarrow]

as long as you outsell outpost

[toxic forge]

i dont think he is. burning half of his battery output

[novel herald]

What's going on here

[marble yarrow]

but me? nah. i'll store extra like crazy

[jovial breach]

if you ever go offline, your belts get fucked and you lose a very small amount of items, you can see this when you just log in the game, switch aic reports to 1 day or several hours you'll notice the yield is lower than expected

[novel herald]

Dat's true

What's wrong with that?

[jovial breach]

So a battery production cant keep up with 4 thermal

Even though it should

[novel herald]

Is someone using too much thermal banks or feeding too much?

[prime ocean]

can fluid output units dump liquids besides water? because that would be so funny

[inland perch]

wuts the point of making sc battery u can't even sell it in the outpost rn

[marble yarrow]

yazhen/jincao/xiranite

[toxic forge]

that is so incredibly minor

[jovial breach]

If you click on a fluid it tells you if that is dischargeable or not

[marble yarrow]

you need to level 3 before doing it

[inland perch]

oh

[prime ocean]

can't pollute Wuling with my copper waste water 😔

[novel herald]

Lvl up outpost pro

*bro

First thing I did 1 hour after update

Outpost lvl 3

[inland perch]

im takinn it slow k

[marble yarrow]

me as soon as i logged in after maintenance

[jovial breach]

Yeah see that flutter, that's why dont directly connect 4 thermal banks straight from a battery packaging

[novel herald]

Yap yap just chill

[toxic forge]

and in valley 4 nothing happened

[novel herald]

Hmmm.......

[uneven aspen]

yeah i got 90% of the way there but I had no operator bonus for prosperity 😔

[marble yarrow]

no avywenna?

[novel herald]

Ahhhh so he/she has the output of the packaging unit to 4 thermal banks?

[uneven aspen]

really? i thought it was pog or lifeng both i dont have

[toxic forge]

to 2 actually

[toxic forge]

well, i had

[novel herald]

Ah so 3 batt/min are gone?

[toxic forge]

yes

[novel herald]

I see"

[toxic forge]

now im using 1.5

[uneven aspen]

hmmm i see, I just noticing it now . . . i thought it was faction-> outpost prosperity hobbies-> sample gathering expertise->active defense

[novel herald]

Will that flutter turn our thermal bank off?

[toxic forge]

amethyst is so incredibly useless

[inland perch]

make zipline

[uneven aspen]

looks like have to manually check each operator 😔 til

[novel herald]

Since it'll have like many batteries inside already

[toxic forge]

if they had turned off for even 10 seconds the factory wouldve shut down so i doubt it

[tawny bane]

How do we mine Cuprium again

[uneven aspen]

wait a sec I just checked . . . all the operators do follow this except ayywenna

[tawny bane]

help my lazy ahh

[uneven aspen]

use the new rigs

[novel herald]

Using the newest mining rig, which is powered by water, not electricity. Have water pump near the mine and connect them

[tropic cloak]

are the sc batteries even worth producing for stock bills? dont they take double the xiranite + ferrium so we're net neutral in raw resource to stock bill efficiency?

[tawny bane]

I tried to pump normal water into it

[tawny bane]

but it didn't connect

[novel herald]

Hmmmmmm yea I guess dat's possible

[novel herald]

Hmmm it should've work :/

[wispy grove]

After making my syringe, my area looks neat

[tawny bane]

I'll try again thank you

[inland perch]

ig imma add the extra 2 forge skies now

[novel herald]

Can u screenshot?

[novel herald]

[marble yarrow]

lvl 3 outpost doubles the hourly stock generation. so you keep up by producing higher value items

[novel herald]

Just in case, make sure u're using water pump instead of the pouring out one

[small creek]

@marble yarrow 30 to 12.5 was just the first problem, now i need to do 30 to 8.75

[toxic forge]

you dont plan on making new components?

[jovial breach]

Ok lets say, you are currently at 3.9k/4k power, you're using 4 thermal banks which are directly eating battery from 1 packaging unit, it looks normal but as soon as you log off, once a while one of the thermal stop working for a period of time, resulting in your stored power dropping, when it's turned back on the power come back to normal, but if you dont have much surplus power to keep up with the downtime of that one bank, eventually your entire electricity goes to 0

[uneven aspen]

hmm is this stable? also what's good to metatransfer now?

[small creek]

gonna go insane

[marble yarrow]

ratio things

[wispy grove]

Already done. I have 4k

[marble yarrow]

[small creek]

can meta transfer parts

how do u ratio 8.75 🥀

[toxic forge]

i think ill shutdown my component factory when i cap them out

[marble yarrow]

7/24

[ornate sorrel]

wait so like, you can only do up to four cupriums rn...
but making a drink at optimized speed requires 3.

[uneven aspen]

belt = 30
split into 3 so 30-> 10-10-10

take one of those 10 split in half to 5 in half to 2.5 in half to 1.25 👍 if you meant splitting out

[novel herald]

Ahhhhh yeaaa it's possible

[toxic forge]

a drink at full speed requires 4

[ornate sorrel]

so what do you do with cuprium if you want 12 batteries lol

[small creek]

wow the 1.25

wait i unironically need this, thank u

i was bashing my head against the wall for half an hour now

[marble yarrow]

i actually trained my google gemini chat for it

[novel herald]

U can't sustain 12 batteries if u want yazhen + gear components too

[tawny bane]

it was a bug I encountered today and Hypergryph fixed it, thanks for the help

[novel herald]

Ayeeee

[ornate sorrel]

yeah you basically have to pick ebtween Yazhen and gear right?

[golden shore]

which better?

[novel herald]

Yea

[toxic forge]

you can also do half/half

i produce components at 50% efficiency and drinks at 75% efficiency

[ornate sorrel]

doesnt gear require xiranite though

[novel herald]

Or just get 10 batteries per min, no need 12

[toxic forge]

it does

[vapid dock]

you can just make 0.5~1 component/min

[jovial breach]

There's also visual bug with pipes, sometimes they dont show the liquid inside and it looks empty but there's still liquid inside, dunno if it's just bc my low specs or not

[ornate sorrel]

idk once you stockpiled 5-10k Gear there isn't much reason to hoard more i feel

esp if you already hoarded xiranite from the patch before

[toxic forge]

10k is enough for one full team

[novel herald]

Doesn't 1 character need like 10k gear comp?

[toxic forge]

i think

[wispy grove]

True

[ornate sorrel]

if you got more than enough xiranite component hoarded

just

just use those for artifice silly

spending 16k on cuprium gears sounds like a huge scam when you can spend 8k on xiranite component dupes

[toxic forge]

oh yeah. 10k max per character

40k per team

[novel herald]

Yeeeee

At least it's guaranteed unlike ______

[wispy grove]

Im sure next patch theyll add more gears again

[novel herald]

Lvl 90 gears comin

[toxic forge]

and a new resource so that your stockpile is pointless

[wispy grove]

Yeah i saw 2 new more ores incoming

[dawn glen]

How many miners can be powered by 1 pump?

[novel herald]

Well the point of having a factory is u gotta meet the world's demand

[toxic forge]

3-6

[vapid dock]

6 low purity, 3 high purity

[novel herald]

High purity needs 1/3
Low purity 1/6

[dawn glen]

Damnit I need to redo my pumps I have a 4 somewhere

[toxic forge]

i would have no problem with the gearing system if catalysts werent capped at 80 per week

[uneven aspen]

what's doable with the extra yields especially the cuprium bottle 💀

[vapid dock]

just do 1 pump for every 3, you're going to have to back track too much once more regional development levels improve purity of remaining low purity nodes

[wispy grove]

Whats with those extra bottles?

[toxic forge]

i wonder about that. jingyu valley purity supposedly already reached max but there are still quite a few low purity nodes

[visual orbit]

time to wait chat

for the red components and stuff

factory is back operational on me

[toxic forge]

same

[uneven aspen]

2 fitting unit 1 moulding unit

so 60 cuprium parts
30 cuprium bottles

Issue is syringe A wants 60 parts while gearing component also wants parts so i have it 50-10

which leads to 25 bottle/min used in the syringe

[golden shore]

is this correct?

[visual orbit]

goodbye ferrium part ye will remembered

welcome back space cancer powder

[thorny latch]

you've gotta be fucking kidding me

what's the policy with spoilers for the new area?

[grave wedge]

Is it worth to have LC WULING BATTERY IF WE CAN MAKE SC VERSION ?! (For trading and Powersupply)

[toxic forge]

I THINK ANYTHING GOES BUT HOW DID YOU GET SPOILED

oops

had top view on

[thorny latch]

no it's not that

[uneven aspen]

you need sc version cause outpost stockbill generation increased, and sc batteries sells for more bills

[thorny latch]

I want to say spoilers

[grave wedge]

So keep both is your answer r8

[vapid dock]

the policy is we ball

[thorny latch]

it's factory related, not story related

[marble yarrow]

Factory spoilers no way

[thorny latch]

banger

so the 90 ferrium hard cap will last another patch

[toxic forge]

this is my syringe/component setup

[toxic forge]

what a spoiler

[uneven aspen]

not sure . . . currently trying to figure it out rn im thinking of making extra syringe C instead of LC

[thorny latch]

max RDL and the new area and we still can't go beyond 90

there's two mineral deposits in the new area, both for cuprium

[toxic forge]

theres not much to do with ferrite rn so i dont mind

[thorny latch]

and the three new RDL tiers don't increase the purity of the ONLY FERRIUM VEIN IN ALL OF WULING

[visual orbit]

ngl chat

[thorny latch]

new healing item and the preferred trade for the sky kings flat

[visual orbit]

me transfering HC batts to wuling weeks ago

actually help alot

[uneven aspen]

oh nice idea, giving me some new ideas to fix my issue

[toxic forge]

new healing item is made from cuprium

[visual orbit]

[thorny latch]

oh there's another one?

I thought the syringes were made with ferrium bottles

[toxic forge]

no, cuprium bottles

unless you mean the handcrafted ones

[thorny latch]

well at least they changed the target item

[thorny latch]

I mean the ones you used to need for sky kings flat

[thorny latch]

didn't know they added another one

[toxic forge]

yeah there are purple syringes now

ferrite is only needed for batteries

[thorny latch]

well shit they changed the preferred trade

[toxic forge]

30/min per production line

[toxic forge]

wdym it was always batteries

[quasi lynx]

guys i optimized everything, but my ferrium gain is low, is that already including metastorage ?

[thorny latch]

I am 97% sure they wanted syringes before

[toxic forge]

they didnt

[thorny latch]

no, with metastorage it should be 115

[jovial breach]

6/min component is crazy

[toxic forge]

ur using 3 power banks?

[jovial breach]

Yeah he's using lc batt

[toxic cargo]

w GAME

im so bored that im doing this

[toxic forge]

lc batteries shouldve been blue...

[spark hedge]

You have 50k+ ferrium in store, so wait a bit and see result, otherwise you have problem with product line

[toxic forge]

also using up only half of cuprium parts so itll clog up soon

[burnt peak]

claustraphobics fear me

[uneven aspen]

😔 just decided i will just use up extra cuprium bottles in depot delivery . . .

[jovial breach]

You're not regional lvl8 yet

[visual orbit]

sewage water and inert

nahhh

[visual orbit]

i dont need this game remind me of my work

[wary perch]

how many cuprium farm do you guys have for the armors?

[visual orbit]

[spark hedge]

This is old image

[solid quiver]

this can run consistently right?

[uneven aspen]

just check your aic report

[jovial breach]

That's such a big bp, but as long as it works then sure

[uneven aspen]

aic report shows any potential problems if you let it run for an hour or so then use it to fix

[jovial breach]

Just need 10mins to see the problem lol

[uneven aspen]

sewage blockage wasn't showing in 10 mins for me . . .

it messed with my xiranite production after like overnight

[toxic forge]

i briefly considered sewage cycling if there wasnt enough to spend cuprium on but that would be sooo complicated

[jovial breach]

Sewage is a bit trickier, cuz those unit can store up to 300 or something

[jovial breach]

Same thing actually, you'll need 2 treatment unit for sewage either way

[toxic forge]

but you wouldnt need to process 2 cupriums

[solid quiver]

it needs to be run for 3/min

[jovial breach]

Why wouldn't you, you still need them for syringe A

[spark umbra]

so, just got a good tip from a friend, if you transfer a small amount of cuprium ore or cuprium parts to valley IV using backpack or dijiang trick, you can then metatransfer it back for free extra production

[toxic forge]

which is why i ultimately didnt do it

[toxic cargo]

i love this

me when im bored

[jovial breach]

Why 3, you should aim for 12/min battery, (6/min each)

[toxic forge]

now make a ring of towers around it

[quasi lynx]

definetly went down by abit

[toxic cargo]

i cant place anymore sadly

theres a limited on it

[toxic forge]

yeah somethings wrong

[solid quiver]

need to produce 12/ min other battery to lvl the AIc

[jovial breach]

Oh you're not maxed yet

[toxic cargo]

dude this game is peak

[solid quiver]

is it can run consistently

[prime pendant]

How do I get water to the new mining rigs when lines limit is right here?

[quasi lynx]

buildings must grow

[toxic cargo]

what you think abt mine

[spark hedge]

Unlock underground pipe first. Alway do main quest first

[wet harbor]

Do i just have to have a bunch of pumps or is there something i can do to use less?

[quasi lynx]

these stashes are abit concerning, 1.1 update launch is already over so you dont need to keep more to level outpost fast

[solid quiver]

use pipe splitter

1 pump can sustain 4 facility

[prime pendant]

Oh yeah i forgot about that
I already unlocked the new skills, i just haven't done the tutorials of it
Thanks

[wet harbor]

thank you!

[novel herald]

Wtf r those stashes D:
Why would we need it?

[solid quiver]

be sure to connect inlet to pump tho

[wary perch]

use conduit

[toxic cargo]

i mean true but it works so yh :D

[solid quiver]

to store batteries for extra storage who needs lvl up the AIC fast

[quasi lynx]

here, i dont have delay in it for ferium

[prime pendant]

Roger roger i will do the tutorials to understand the new buildings and see how it goes

[novel herald]

Ah so u can transport em to wuling?

[solid quiver]

yes and sell later

[toxic forge]

so, youre making ferrium bottles and 2 ferrium parts. thats 120 ferrium/min. theres only 90 ferrium/min on the map

[novel herald]

But we're kinda capped by outpost bill generation no?

[spark hedge]

2 pump is enough

[solid quiver]

yes but they probably upgraded a day later I think

[novel herald]

Owww got it

[wet harbor]

tysm for the reference

[solid quiver]

I did like this lol

[toxic forge]

a more sane way to do it really

[quasi lynx]

yas, have 2 bottles and 2 parts since 1 outfit in fitting unit is directly bottles

[toxic forge]

idk. but it shouldnt be consuming more than its making thats for sure

[quasi lynx]

looks kinda good, i just wonder if metastorage is already calculated in, if no than its sufficient

[toxic forge]

metastorage only lets you transfer up to 20 per minute though

so youre still short

[lusty violet]

25

[toxic forge]

oh right

i guess its fine then

[quasi lynx]

yeah and before ferium bottle runs out, wuling lv10 is gonna be here and fix it with better purity mining spot

[jovial breach]

So true

[lost lantern]

Which of the pinned blueprints is the best one for completed Wuling endgame?

[jovial breach]

[uneven aspen]

i wonder if it's a bug since cuprium bottle and ores do not show up as an option

[toxic forge]

if it makes 12 batteries and 6 syringes its maxed

[solid quiver]

tbh when it gonna increase wuling city mineral I thought that included ferium too

[jovial breach]

I recommend leander blueprint, he's the goat

Totally not biased

[uneven aspen]

also cause the 2nd point about it being source region . . .

[toxic forge]

wuling is really stingy about copyrights

no sprinklers no pipes no cuprium

cant have shit in valley 4

[wary perch]

what's the use of xircon?

[uneven aspen]

SC wuling battery

hmm reminds me to transfer xircon to valley depot see if it can transfer

[wary perch]

oh

[toxic forge]

also xiranite/cuprium components

[spark umbra]

oh really? even with cuprium bottle or ores in valley IV depot, you cant metatansfer? then its definitely a bug that it works for cuprium parts

[quasi lynx]

didnt pay attention earlier to ferium cause yesterday i still had delay in it, someone pointed out it was not needed so did abit rework

[ornate sorrel]

i had to resort to blueprinting

[toxic forge]

execution tomorrow

[ornate sorrel]

endfield made me realize that i probably shouldn't try to minmax my factory setup

probably why i got frustrated really quick

[lone pebble]

and still wrong !

[ornate sorrel]

like goddamn

there is

a lot lot of output slots left

when i blueprinted the blueprint route

like yeah, maybe i shouldn't have tried to max things out and be more casual about it next time

😔

[quasi lynx]

how can it be wrong, or what spot do you mean exactly

[uneven aspen]

don't see any changes

[toxic forge]

yeah. the battery setup takes up like 40% of the core aic area. it can get a bit daunting

[uneven aspen]

so it's only cuprium and parts

this is probably a bug

[ornate sorrel]

Also Yazhen A or Jinchao?

is only the former up for slae

[toxic forge]

only yazhen you can sell

[ornate sorrel]

thats kinda dumb

[wet harbor]

Are these two the only cuprium ore nodes so far?

[toxic forge]

i think it was the same way with berries/lemons in v4

[nova osprey]

yeah it's a bug, notice how you can see cuprium ore and parts on the AIC report for V4 side, but other items like xiranite doesn't exist

[lone pebble]

I MEAM I GET IT YOU WANTED TO MAKE Xircon ! but only need`s 1 line of powder ! NS FOR PACHAGING YOU NEED SOMETHING LIKE THIS !

[ornate sorrel]

is it? the blueprint i pasted takes a lot less than that lol

[quasi lynx]

that one was from yesterday, i just build it without testing since i needed parts

[nova osprey]

either that or we'll eventually get a v4 expansion that allows production of cuprium

[lucid relic]

How many cuprine nodes can be supplied by one pump?

[nova osprey]

depends, 3 high purity or 6 low purity

[lone pebble]

yet u are still cloging !

[toxic forge]

i might have overblown it a bit

[nova osprey]

i think atm you technically only need 2 pumps but 3 pumps is just easier to setup

[lone pebble]

dont mind the Mo;ding unit !

[nova osprey]

why are we moding

[visual orbit]

time to sleepge and let the factory done it deeds

[uneven aspen]

fluid pumps get 1 water/s

rig needs only 1 water every 3 seconds

so 3 rigs

[nova osprey]

that's high purity, low purity is 1/6s

[visual orbit]

[weak wolf]

If im making xiranite,so which section would they go in the local depot in the products right?-

[uneven aspen]

yeah but you're saying needing 3 pumps

[nova osprey]

right now we have a total output of 120/min, One rig can supply enough for 60/min

[nova osprey]

no I'm saying technically two if you rig up both efficiently with inlets/outlets

but you'd need a cross map network of inlets/outlets which is annoying, and for a small boost to efficiency

[heavy wagon]

IDK how to make those xiranite going up to 120 per min becuase for some reason the max is only 90, while the xircon porducion was cut in half

[jovial breach]

Yeah lol i just learned about low purity is only 1/6 water, but im too lazy to redo all of the pumps, and eventually they will be high purity anyway

[nova osprey]

something wrong with your forges

[nova osprey]

yeah exactly, just too much effort for 10 energy saved lol

[wanton hound]

will this keep my base powered enough to not go offline?

[jovial breach]

Show pic of your xiranite production

Inb4 it's sandleaf

[wet harbor]

how can i get water here for rigs?

[lone pebble]

couse cloging sewage ! as for Xine / for sure a band is off !

[jovial breach]

Conduit

[nova osprey]

connect via inlet/outlet conduits is the easy way, you can technically just keep bringing it over via pipes

there's a small platform just north of there where you can put pumps, iirc

[heavy wagon]

now is 120, when i double check it, one of forge sky didn´t have it pipe water as i accidentally delete it now is back to 120

[wet harbor]

thank u both!

[nova osprey]

nice

[ornate sorrel]

solved the problem i think

[tropic cloak]

is it not possible to double up xircon effluent/xircon production? since we have 6 inputs/outputs in total in the reactor

[ornate sorrel]

this guy did one input for FOUR water demands in all cuprium slots when it should've been two pumps

[nova osprey]

we have 2 fluid and 2 item inputs, and two of the same for outputs

and no it's not possible

[solid quiver]

will leveling up the sub aic increase regional development lvl?

[nova osprey]

crucible doesn't make things fast enough

[novel herald]

No

[novel herald]

True

[tropic cloak]

well that sucks

[elder flame]

Yes

[nova osprey]

while yes you could get the flow rate higher, it will just clog it

[novel herald]

No

[nova osprey]

upgrading aic areas does not affect RDM

upgrading outposts does

[solid quiver]

one give the true answer pls

[novel herald]

Lol

Iirc unlocking the facilities don't give u rdm

[nova osprey]

i did

[novel herald]

However

[nova osprey]

i mean we both did, your question could be unclear though

[novel herald]

Touching the balloon guy does

This is if u're askin bout rdm

[solid quiver]

outpost means sub AIC selling section right?

[nova osprey]

yes

[solid quiver]

how is it unclear tho

[novel herald]

I'm not sure if u're asking about leveling up ur outpost, or aic facilities section

[nova osprey]

idk, could mean upgrading sub AIC as in upgrading via steward or the trading page

[solid quiver]

I said leveling up tho and other thing is just expanding AIC area right

[novel herald]

Ahhh my bad then

[novel herald]

True"

[uneven aspen]

bottleneck at your xirantie production?

[uncut estuary]

Maybe your Forge/Xiranite production lack of Water needed, like u need 4 Pump to have 120/xira per production

[uneven aspen]

i messed up my piping for the water

had it stuck at 105/min

[lucid relic]

How to check if the node pure or not?

[uneven aspen]

inspecting the mining rig should show it or do it in the map click on the ore

[lucid relic]

I mean, between different nodes that close to each other, not on the map.

[nova osprey]

put a rig down and check via menu of the rig interface

[quasi lynx]

weird, it was just a bug or timing issue but now my data looks perfect

[uneven aspen]

go to the rig window

[quasi lynx]

high purity minespot has glowing light that rises

[nova osprey]

not if your special effects are at minimum

[hoary scroll]

i have so much extra room in my factory

[uneven aspen]

yup but I also recently changed my graphics/performance setting in-game and that minespot glowing thing disappeared/wasnt noticable for me.

[wary perch]

what do you guys do on inert xircon?

[nova osprey]

water treatment facility

[wary perch]

aside from that

[nova osprey]

nothing

[wary perch]

no other use?

oh

[nova osprey]

at least no other known use

maybe we'll find a secret recipe or smth, who knows @.@

[heavy wagon]

this xircon produced 60 per min but now it procues 40 and tbh idk if is because of sewage/pipe

[lone pebble]

REVERSE

[nova osprey]

that looks right though no?

[sacred gyro]

yo guys just wondering if its possible to have 2 SC wuling battery production without lacking of originium

[lone pebble]

u out 2 ways same thing !

[nova osprey]

how is your sewage line connected

[rocky rivet]

not sure I can optimize it further than that right?

I use a splitter to power up a thermal bank too for power so I get 6.6k power and use about 4.1k

as for gear pieces I can turn off some depots to let it run for a bit (so I make 6 batteries and 3 syringes instead) yet to find a better solution. but once I have enough I turn it off. (also ignore the ores its readjusting)

[uneven aspen]

check each reactor for if there's any clogged outputs

[elder flame]

What’s going on with your xiranite output for the cuprium gear

Do you have stockpile

[nova osprey]

that would clog to 30/min, they look different

[uneven aspen]

any gearing components?

[nova osprey]

it's not clogged so

I'm thinking it is the sewage

[elder flame]

The gearing unit xiranite input flow looks staggered

Can you screenshot that section too

And do you have xiranite already stockpiled

If your gearing unit isn’t producing at top speed your cuprium will cap and your sewage output will drop

[heavy wagon]

my xiranite is at 0

[elder flame]

Then you cannot sustain more than 4 xiranite outputs

[sinful abyss]

is it better to meta transfer cuprium ore over ferrium now?

[lone pebble]

Xircon should be 60 ! a pipe is not right ! in the out/in !

[nova osprey]

unless you're doing components no

actually imma just say it's a no

you make more by transferring ferrium

[elder flame]

Let me see this section

[elder flame]

Is anything off

[nova osprey]

your sewage lines are wrong

[elder flame]

Your consumption is like 6 xiranite lines

But you have only 4 production

[nova osprey]

it's not

it's theoretical 120/120

[sinful abyss]

isnt ferrium just for the medicine solution c?

[elder flame]

I don’t get how though

[frosty tiger]

finally aic has some uses kek

[heavy wagon]

idk how to do that sewage system

[elder flame]

Doesn’t make sense to me

[nova osprey]

c is 16, a is 22

ferrium is weight 1 and cuprium weight 2, so you get half of 22 if you transfer cuprium, for 11

[sinful abyss]

Oh okay ty

[nova osprey]

you need two sewage lines (use a combiner) for the next xiranite product after fluid

i forget the name of the fluid

[viscid plover]

balance

[lone pebble]

btw this is akward , and all rig`s are powerd and working !

[nova osprey]

oh no lol

not again

[nova osprey]

now you gotta check to see which one is in storage mode

[elder flame]

If you’re using the hydro drills, did you make sure that each pump corresponds to the right numbers and types of ore deposit

[dense furnace]

How do I make the lines go faster

[hallow monolith]

I wish i could trade Valley IV stock bills to Wuling Stock bills at like 1:10 exchange rate or something

[uneven aspen]

stop production at the end and let it all cap out

then turn it back on

[frail kelp]

we can make cuprium as a god?

what i should use in regional transfer?

[uneven aspen]

if its the right production ratios to sustain it should keep the belts full

[nova osprey]

no ferrium is better

[jovial breach]

Ok basically it's like this, 1 sc battery = 2 xiranite liquid + 2 xircon liquid + 1 xircon solid (5 total crucibles)
And you need 1 sewage per second, the xircon solid already making 0.5 sewage back into the cycle, so you need 0.5 sewage from outside which is exactly from 1 copium refinery

[viscid plover]

i just noticed the price are double like waaaaat

8k vs 16k but why such a big diff

[lone pebble]

i only use 2 rigs/pomp !

[uneven aspen]

because the outposts generatemore stockbill now

[viscid plover]

"inflation"

but not by THAT much

[nova osprey]

probably because of increased stock bill sources

[jovial breach]

Inflation is real even in game lol

[nova osprey]

you get like double the amount of bills from trading now iirc

[uneven aspen]

also looks like cuprium is from the stockade so maybe they taxing us

[viscid plover]

what next, 12dola a cup of boba tea?

[nova osprey]

[ruby flare]

Copium refinery XD

[nova osprey]

yes it's copium

endfield made a mistake when they named it

[indigo silo]

say... how much power does an SC Wuling battery yield?

[nova osprey]

3200

[jovial breach]

Three thousand two hundred

[indigo silo]

ho hoo, interesting

[jovial breach]

That's why you gotta get everything done below 3.4k power

[ruby flare]

Is anyone also still having trouble with Xiranite? We just got two more forges but still can't keep up because demand spiked too.

[vapid dock]

pwm tech

[nova osprey]

whats wrong with your forge production

it should be 120/min yield but yours keeps going down

[stoic coyote]

missin water

[nova osprey]

i think the planters might be messed up actually

[ruby flare]

One sec, loading into game now.

[dense furnace]

Like the planting unit?

Cuz it still doesn't work

Maybe cuz I consume way too much sandleaves?

[uneven aspen]

at the end, the planting unit is the start

[nova osprey]

oh no one fixed that problem for you? your setup is wrong

let me find a pic

this is two 30/min

use half

for one or use both

[lone pebble]

found the prob ! the pipe was off possition :))

[fair flicker]

We have just two ore in new area right so how do I level up the regional level than?

[nova osprey]

upgrade depot, stock, outpost, recyclers, env station

same shit as always

[fair flicker]

I have all recycled station maxed depot lemme check i had everything maxed before updates

[jovial breach]

Level up outpost

[nova osprey]

new level caps

[fair flicker]

so what stuff i am missing exactly

[sick basin]

Everything basicallyl

[nova osprey]

level 3 outpost, environment station, depot, stock redistribution

[dense furnace]

Thanks

[fair flicker]

That is gonna take time ig

[dense furnace]

I forgot that Protocol Stashes can be wireless

Man, Sandleaf is used a lot huh?

[nova osprey]

yes

[thorn pike]

Domain Expansion

||Misinformation||

[digital bramble]

Okay, so I've been racking my brain at this for awhile, and figured I'd just come here to see if I'm insane, or if there is no solution.

Basically, it "seems" the only way to properly manage sewage water is to optimize inputs and outputs. I ran into the issue that I basically set my factory to make "Cuprium Parts" primarily as a means to produce sewage water to fuel the bootstrap half of the Xircon factory (With the second Xircon factory self fueling with its own produced waste feedback).

Alas, my factory "filled up" on Cuprium parts, leading to the lines backing up while I was asleep, sewage water production halting, and Xircon not getting fed to the batteries, blah blah blah...

BASICALLY, in an ideal world, I would have a feed system that first put sewage water to use, but whatever wasn't being used, hit a protocol stash, and then went to a seperate facility for water treatment. I'm doing a similar system with all cuprium parts right now, where each has a "fallback" storage protocol (IE, I make parts, but I don't store them, i send them to make components, if components max, there's a protocol storage between the fitting unit and the gearing unit, so instead of backing up and halting production of Cuprium, thus halting my sewage source, it starts storing parts... in addition, i also have a protocol stash between the cuprium and the fitter, so nothing gets stored until things back up, but then, if they get backed up, i have a seperate small factory that produces and stores Cuprium bottles to act as a "sink" to keep the sewage producting even if I cap on Components and Parts.

The Xiranite lines for the gearing unit "component" are filtered down to minimal feed by a DAC operating at 1/128 with splitters and mergers for each, but, the DAC is built so that when it "backs up" all Xiranite shunts to the gearing components, allowing a perfect final sink, without shutting down Xiranite reliance.

[dense furnace]

What

[nova osprey]

technically the outpost has enough stock you just need to do the trades

[ruby flare]

Remember, each plant makes 3 powder, so use up all output lines on a shredder.

[digital bramble]

But... point is even with all this, I can't figure out a way (Either because there isn't or just I'm brain fried) to make it so that I "use" sewage water where needed, and if it isn't needed, rather then just wasting and sitting idle, it is treated providing no bottleneck or sink like I'm basically doing for all other parts of the line.

[nova osprey]

try using pwm but with sewage

[digital bramble]

... wow, so simple... right, so 99% goes to where I need it, but if it backs up, it gets routed to treatment.

thanks XD.

[nova osprey]

yes

[uneven aspen]

you can use the cuprium produced for sewage to make parts or bottles and then use it them for the consumable A.

also delivery node you can use the excess tehre

[vapid dock]

Just run your factory on vibes

[nova osprey]

no problem, you can also do three lines sewage combined into one since there's enough and it doesn't cap the pipe (1.5/s out of 2/s cap

any over cap will bypass the pwm filter and be treated

[strong quiver]

God i hate pipe so much

Now i need to make

[elder flame]

I was told the solution was to have a 2.5 sewage line hooked up to the machines and a treatment so that when the machines fill up it just all goes to treatment

[strong quiver]

Facilities that can't mirrio

Why can't they just make normal facility that requires water input

Like 2 input from 2 opposite side

[nova osprey]

that doesn't really work though

[strong quiver]

So i can make something mirroring

[nova osprey]

unless I'm picturing it wrong

[nova osprey]

mirror?

ah yes

i see

[strong quiver]

Yes

[nova osprey]

i just split my AIC in half and copied my setup but rotated

[strong quiver]

I'm doing the xiranite type with the infinite sandleaf

[nova osprey]

not with jincao?

[strong quiver]

So my plan is to make 2 of those line that mirror through a main axis

[nova osprey]

xiranite production right?

[strong quiver]

Yeah

[ruby flare]

All the lines are essentially the same since I just copy/pasted after building one.

[strong quiver]

And i can line the output lines back to depot access point more effectively

[nova osprey]

your grinders

actually brb

[elder flame]

Is the pipe capacity two or three

[nova osprey]

2/s

[strong quiver]

Wait

I have an ingenious idea

If the leak of skyforge cap is 6

I can make a cluster of 3 xiranite line

With the middle one being fed by the excess sandleaf powder of the rest

[ruby flare]

Ok, I think I see the problem now, thanks.

[strong quiver]

I'm just afraid that shit will take up alot of spaces

But it's 1.1

Space doesn's matter much yet

[sand sparrow]

I finally finished my main AIC with 12 battery + 6 yaz syr [A] + 3 yaz syr [C] and a lot of free space. Sub AIC is empty.

[ornate sorrel]

how tf do you figure out how to minimize your space usage

like actually

i caved in into blueprints cuz i got mad

[strong quiver]

Alot of pain an suffering

Thinking too

[fair flicker]

Can someone guide me how should I proceed to max the regional level and max production

Like i had the latest layout from that forum but now as new things came should i change my production or keep them same? If have sub pac lvl 2 and those old stuff main pac just 1 area expansion and depot bus

[nova osprey]

np

[strong quiver]

But you get kinna used to it if you've done it for valley 4

[ornate sorrel]

i kinda blueprinted that so uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

like i get the logic behind it

but the process pissed me off cuz of the addition of the pipe entry coming from the side LOL

[nova osprey]

max regional is upgrading all depots, stocks redistributions, outposts, environment terminal for wuling side, and doing quite a few recyclers

[gilded valley]

i dont get it, why everything so low. Even all the ore yield are low

[nova osprey]

layouts.. change for wuling side when you get outpost level 3

[sand sparrow]

I did the same, and some I more optimize, some change for my usage. Also previously I like to use calculator at github for optimization.

[fair flicker]

I mean my subpack is lvl 2 first i need to max it for it I need more stuff to farm so should I change my layout to some other one i was following the one given in forum

[fair flicker]

Long way to go i mean

[small creek]

not using enough > no space in depot > miners stop working > yield go down

[nova osprey]

use ones before 1.1 update so lc and c meds

[ornate sorrel]

i think it would've helped a lot for me personally if theres a way to keep the production tree available to be checked in one click

[azure minnow]

i accidentally crippled my aic and put purple batteries in, how long is it supposed to take to revive itself

its been like 5 mins so yea

[serene geyser]

just take batts from valey4?

[azure minnow]

i did

[fair flicker]

Yep been using since the launch is my production slow cause I am still stucked at that stage even though I am daily selling the stuffs

[azure minnow]

idk why its still 0

[serene geyser]

load them right into power banks

[nova osprey]

you need two thermal banks with purple batts not one

[serene geyser]

it should start working right away

[azure minnow]

oh ok

[strong quiver]

You have to kickstart it with extra thermal bank

[sand sparrow]

Also I don't use full AIC blueprints. I was looking for good compact blueprints for one production.

[nova osprey]

made it yourself? you can use the blueprints in the forum if you'd like they're quite reliable

[azure minnow]

ig blue battery dont work

[nova osprey]

Essentially you need above your current power usage of 2.46k

[fair flicker]

nope i copied from aforum

[nova osprey]

so use however many you need to reach above that

[nova osprey]

is it making components too? at 3/s

[fair flicker]

yep

[fair flicker]

but i dont need it anymore

ig

[nova osprey]

yeah turn it off

[fair flicker]

cauise i dont use it now

[nova osprey]

make another battery line

[azure minnow]

ummm its still not working

[nova osprey]

also regional transfer some ferroium

[nova osprey]

you need 3 thermal with the blue batteries

[fair flicker]

xiranite fram too should i remove

this one right

[nova osprey]

batteries need xiranite

[fair flicker]

just replace with battery

[prisma granite]

why buck for carbon

[nova osprey]

yes

[thorn pike]

Did you even build your own AIC ever?

Kickstart it with 3-5 unconnected powerbanks, stocked fully with batteries.