#aic-factory
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Well you still outtrade the outpost anyway so i guess it doesn't matter
But for new players it can be important
It’s the principle
The mining rigs with 2 arent worth changing
The other spots habe 5 nodes, youll save only 5 power
So like
One must always outtrade outpost
Only the ferrium one is worth doing
You join the ones with two with the ones with 5
i js did that das smart
If you somehow connect the 3rd pipe from that spot into other spot
It's good 
Thry are halfway across the map
How are u supposed to join them
Often times they are <200m away
Just connect with conduit
fuck
Is best thing ever makes everything clean
But 2 pumps cant power 7 rigs
And once we get rdm highr, the purity will increase and it wont be enough
Chat🥹
Common man they teach you to save power when not in used at school, at least be a good citizen and don't waste it 
Not all nodes increase purity
Once rdm goes higher, they do
Idk the nodes are kind of spaced out sometimes
That’s like in 2 months or something isn’t it
Everything is high purity in valley
560 originium
Remaking it in 2 months :realmad:
This is the current best output you can get in wuling right now right?
Ye
Should be like this if you're not making component (no syringe C because it's unimportant)
Idk I made it modular enough I think
Yep
My 6 hrs of effort were not wasted
ok waiting time

That’s a lot
Man is burning his stockpiles
I really have a bad habit of trying to use the least amount of space with the least amount of energy consumption
But after the pipe part cam I just gave up
what am I doing wrong with my planting units
Not having another planting unit
Yea
You do this
So i need to coverge these 4 outputs and then split them up again... while also figuring out how to push one xiranite line across the map to make space for an extra 5th output...
surely you dont need that many protocol stashes too
wait lemme try that
i suppose all the pipe stuff can technically be done outside of the area
is there a way to get sewage without cuprium refining?
Yes, by making xircon. But you need waste none the less to make it
Is it possible to produce Liquid Xiranite and Xircon Effluent in the same crucible?
Here's a mockup of the routing. No bp rn bc I'd have to fit it into my actual base for that
you can put sewage in the conduit links which i find neat
im trying to avoid the depot blocks
because they take up space
Space is the least important factor rn
You have vastly more space than one could ever use
You have a lot of space in wuling
I have a super jank, thrown together base that still has spare space in the aic. My outpost is entirely empty
Compress deez nuts
cold water

The numbers aren't even close?
36288
Two aics can output 6 belts. Max mining is 23 belts
i mean only my core AIC uses depots
got to remake it anyway next patch
next patch the sub AIC will make 6 xiranite
6 xiranite would be nice
You only need 4 sandleaf for 6
Nothing to put there
i do think the sub AIC area would look nicer empty since people live there...
great update
You place aic there so wulingers have something to do instead of stealing shit

omfg the game kicked me
i feel like living next to the sub AIC would be a nightmare
got to spread the enfield propaganda
the wuling core AIC area is isolated and has cliffs to reduce the noise impact
but the sub AIC is like in the middle of the village
or something idk what they use that area for
Isnt it just an outpost though, so its more for work
i do wonder if we ever gonn get pollution management
there's like 40 machines in that small area
POLLUTING THE ENTIRETY OF TALOS 2 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑 🤑
how many and what farms can I make in latest ver?
i also feel bad for the refugee camp in V4
felt like memory usage is higher than last version tho
they asked for the sub AIC to be placed there but it generates so much noise
is it 100% of cuprium ore used to make 1 line of yazen A?
Yeah i was kinda disappointed when it doesn't give back me clean water
It just eats any liquid
you can set 1-4 lines or cuprium
You need 4 copium for 100% syringe A yeas
wait, how people getting so fast with outpost level? 
hmm so i somehow need to split between gearing and syringe now? 💀
Saved 3 days worth of outpost stock before update
i wonder how, lol
dont buy outpost stockbills for 3 days before update to then sell
Time to do aberrant zone for 4 standard tickets
Which is your merging line btw
restart or place more 🤔
there was 6 pylons in there including those 4 in the pic

minor inconveniences just require brute force
2 lc wuling + 1 yazhen A is the max?
Am I blind or are there not any current uses for the Inert Xircon Effluent? Does it just go straight to the water treatment unit to avoid overflowing?
if there's no other formula then yup likely
The highlighted converger
you only need 6 treatments, 4 for the inert and 2 for the sewage
What's the max production rate for ferrium rn?
Still same.. 90..
I seriously hate the artificial time gating behind the factory due to the outpost
I see
So meta-storage still needed
I can't even play with the new production lines as I have no reason as I wouldn't be able to lvl it up anymore if I did
No, I need 8. This is explicitly designed to handle any level of xircon production, therefore I need to cover the case of zero production
Redoing entire factory every patch
For? Since now using cope ore.
Only 60 ferr for 2 set new battery.
Oh yeah
I FORGOT CUPRIUM EXISTS
I don't mind that but having to wait for the outpost to recharge is a pain
people that saved stock bills had lvl3 almost right away though
I did the same but only got half way through lvl 2 on patch day
There's only 1 outpost rn right?
Yea it's maxed for me
yeah sadly
it needs 1.45mil to get lvl3 and cap of bills is 1.25mil so idk
Same, still stuck in lvl2..
Coz me bad at factory.. -_-)
I'll not be able to make Yazhen C or LC Wuling if I upgrade my base rn
Wulfgard
anyone?
Lifeng/aveyw for tradong for properity bonus
Lifeng?
i personally have lifeng
Ok
Oh, yess.. Then back to c type..
Wulfgard make money
Lifeng for trading in for more porsperity
12/min SC Wuling and 6/min syringe A
Yepper
I think yass.. Me also 12 bat & 6 syrA
So I have to just wait it out 
It sucks
I forgot about the 3/min line for syringe C
Me already start changing coz have stock of batt, syringe, and drink to dump.. XD
Send base
is your xiranite ok lol
I'm literally maxing out on cuprium parts right now while I wait. Give me something to do game please
If it can make all battery + C and A Yazhen then it'll be peak
Turned off 1 line for 3/min components
should be totally dying
oh its 1.45m
people who saved have 1.25m. so with +20% bonus its 1.5m LMAOOO
where is the 20% bonus from even????
The xyranite isn't go (-)?
Also syrC with 55 ferrium?
prosperity bonus. i used avywenna when trading for that
instant lv3 when i logged in lmao
Think I can also upgrade?
brother...
It is
30 ferrium, im using bottle
Its enough i think..
lifeng has prosperity bonus too so you're fine
Oh the last 30/90 ferr + bottle stock..
you can just delete syringe C, it's so unimportant after you unlock sc battery and syringe A
waiting for outpost upgrade is annoying me, like come on get cash faster so i can get exp 
I wish the patch had more actual stuff to do honestly
even factory wise the content is dry
fr man, these wulingers need to get their ass work faster
Yeah
Using bottle metatransfer so it is how it is
It soesnt make too much difference anyway
Adjust your entire AIC to maximum battery efficiency 
experimental yield for now 
fix ur zips
Yass.. Me just seeing the report seems not normal if only using produced items, without stock.
they are efficient already
find v1.2 map 
Smart move.. °-°)b
I would work on characters but the game refuses to give me Tangtang and there ain't enough currency for an 80 pity either

Yazhen/jincao C is useless now so u can just delete it
or 65 for soft even
Lore accurate water transfer
I can't do that sadly
question, if im intending on 0.5/m xiranite components + 0.5/m cuprium components + 5.5 syringes + 11 batteries, does this work?
my thought was with 5 xira depot unloaders with 120/m xira production, each unloader is outputting 24/m xira. So if i send 14 xira back and split the remaining 10 between the two component types, i could keep making components while still making enough batteries + syringes to max out outpost trading, plus 2 batteries for power.
Pretty sure u can reach those from ferrium spot kek
What do you even metastorage transfer this patch ?
ferrium for syringe ?
Lowkey, nothing
How do I get the Liquid Xiranite to react with the sewage in the same crucible?
i think bottle or the refined ferrium like box thing
Syringe u can just remove completly
only if you have enough to upgrade to lvl 3
I dont think u do
you cant, you need another one
arghhh, i thought you can do two in a single crucible
you need 2 crucibles for xiranite liquid, 2 for xircon liquid, then 1 for xircon solid, total 5
Is it possible to metastorage transfer gear components ?
if we use the hydro rig, shouldn't we able to save power more for mining ferrium?
Iirc yes
But its a tiny amount
Like, 50 or less
hmmmm
Yes
The ferrium spot eats 60 power currently
U can cut it to 20 if u use hydro
so 1.5 component is the max ?
but doesn't it takes longer to mined like cuprium ore?
not really i have a 3/min version
Uh, no?
or is it the same?
Same mining speed
i see
no i mean max as in still having surplus stock bills
If u minmax the hydro mining rigs, u can save about 100~ total power across wuling
If u see it as worth the time, go ahead
definitely worth, getting over 3.4k to below that
3/min but you dont use SC (burning reserves of LC/HC)
better change now if there gonna be updated rigs in future
I only replaced the ferrium ones and stopping there
if i did 3/m red components, whats gonanbe my yield for new battery and syringe
if I get tangtang, does she max the stockade's money earnings?
9 and 3
Tangsahur has 3/3 on outpost skills, yes
wulfgard is already doing all the stuff tho
GACHA TIME
Took awhile, but need outpost to hit 4 before I can get rid of some things. 2-3 more days till then...
i see, then if i did 12 battery and 6 syringe. i cant make components no?
U camt without going deficit on cuprium/xiranite, no
Nice, less power, same output 
got it thank you
true
U have to half a input
If u half yazhenA, youll technicaly also half sewage output that (in my case) i feed battery
So that will half the battery output as well
oh wtf am I doing, I'm still at lvl 2 and can't sell this stuff yet 
These new ones require a lot more work if u want to switch between making one or the other
But if my head math is correct, u can make 3/min yazhenA, 1.5/min components and 7.5/min batteries without going deficit
But dont quote me on that, too early for me
Anyone knows how big is the jingyu valley sub aic?
Thinking of moving my xircon production there.
Oh u can place 2 depot core at once?
Iirc u can only place one..
One in sub
We got upgrade in main with this update
Go buy it pookie
yeah, math isnt quite right
Ye im not suprised
My idea was merging one cuprium line with a converger to another one, which cuts the input in half
Wait no
It still produces the same amount of sewage
Uh, then split one cuprium line back into depot to half it, halfing sewage output from the refinery, which will half the battery prod too cuz less sewage for that
Idk man
If u have yazhen sewage hooked from yazhen to batteries like i have personally, that is
Imma play around with it and see :ya:
The sewage is real pain addition..
Coz it connected 2 production or more together..
If one got error/clogged/something else that disrupting the sewage..
Rip also the other productions connected to it..
-_-)
put a fluid tank for relief
Imagine 1 syringe A have 4 sewages..
Each connected to 6/m battery..
Then the syringe clogged or something happen u don't realize..
Then the 4 battery plants it connected with will dying also..
-_-)
I mean, the syringe need to supply 4 1/s sewage "IN STABLE INTERVAL" to 4 different prod plants..
If it the "INTERVAL become NOT STABLE" coz of clog or something else..
The other plant production also become not stable..
Like sometimes 6 sometimes 3..
Coz the sewage input not stable..
updated jincao farm for fluffed jincao
hey, is it possible to max out AIC tech tree? qingbo stockade shows only 5 dataloggers but there are 7 upgrades
some dataloggers give 2x
two of them has 2
Its possible..
and you'll be able to get 3 of them during story cuz it will be your way
I've maxed out my AIC tech tree in both wuling and valley
same
ah, right, forgot it doesn't have to be 1:1
good idea, I might do that as well
for the yazhen plant, theres no way to auto collect them and transfer them to the facility?
i have to manually plant and pick them?
conduits are such a blessing
only hassle is u have to walk to connect them, wish I could connect them in AIC view
Notes:
- Low purity gives you 1 resource per 6s while high purity is per 3s, only regional development will improve them from low to high purity, don't use higher tier drills other than the water drill.
you can use plant unit and seeding unit for them lol
its not working.....it doesnt grow the plant
it only extracts the seeds
u need the hydro planter
its a godsend, it fixes the AI pathfinding by not having splitters blocking everything
ohhh
research it if u didnt, and if u did look for a switch in the planted unit
u can auto farm jingcao and yazhen this way.
jingcao and yazhen also gives two units of carbon if u run them through refining unit, the valley plants give one
Is it just me, or do pipes feel very clunky. My belts are nice and neat going from top to bottom. My pipes are full of splitters and combiners...
Ya know adjusted my old line to make the new bottles and it's doing pretty decent
cuz they are. use the conduits more that u can now.
I keep forgetting that I can make those
do both planters have to have water going to them? The way the planter is set up, one of the pipes is blocked
But then again I'm probably going to overhaul my entire wuling factory in the weekend so removing the pipes now it's necessary
no
its like half of the second research bar
back to hybernation mode
I found a pond of sewage in the new area why can others dump it while we can't
Like com on lemme pollute the environment
Its reverse.. They force us to clean it.. -_-)
Just replace all the production plant with new one..
Just replace mining rig with new one..
Just replace pipelines with new one..
If wanna..
ok no thanks
you actually just dump them into a black hole
im not playing the game for the sake of it. ill end up complaining of too much/no content

@dawn flax Do disregard the abomination layout, tis just a placeholder before i make everything neater later
this is doing 30/min
i 'll let others here comment about this then
yeah idk what i'm doing wrong here or is this just the normal output all things considered
does traditional-piped system deliver water faster than wifi?
Better than mine. This is half my sc battery setup
not really
mine doing "standard-3-crucibles" on SCW-battery for powering
plan to do "5-crucibles" for the selling lot
ahh i knew i was doing somethng wrong lmao
using 6 crucibles and a lot of useless piping lmao
my SCW battery has its own buckflower and sandleaf planters each blueprint
okay so i just need to plugin my xicrone liquid directly into a reactor crucible gotchu
is there any use for inert xicrone as of now?
none atm, i sent to a treatment unit (u may go for watertank i guess?)
I am saving like 1000 of each liquid in bottles in case we need it for a headstart
i see, that's fine too
my wuling stock still 2/3 way on lvl 2 , so has to retain a built regular-Wuling-battery production for sell
yeah i'm doing like 1 xiranite output into copium component and another still in LC to sell lol
400k away from outpost upgrade
i shelved all regular syringe production for now, may build red-syringe soon
in advance
You should use priority flow for sewage
just use ferrum meds instead, originium for SC battery
I swear they'll bring back inert xicrone into play when we get the HC version of the batteries
or maybe not
i'll think aabout it
priorty flow as in?
i saw that the new syringe and the SC wuling battery cant be sold are they still worth it to build?
Send sewage to effluent reactors with priority, rest to water treatment
like i set 1 line of ferrum (1/min) for med, 2 ferrum with all originium for battery
its not like 3 lvl is important
ah gotchu
level 3 is to sell the scw-batt and red syringe eh?
Yess.. New one can be sold at lvl3 outpost..
i already have a scw-production saving for sell
but it's still same standard-3 crucible as ones for power
so i plan to add soon
If you just pipe sewage from refiners to reactors, the reactors slowing down will clog the refiners
can one line of sewage from refining unit sustain 2 reactors?
thats only if the crucibles dont work at 100%
Would you folks have any idea why trying to use bulk action on pc is making my game crash?
This is a likely scenario if you ever plan to make gear components
top view zoom out is lowkey bugged i think, my fps drops to 10 sometimes when out do max zoomout
I hopped onto Mobile and Ps5 but it works fine there, but on PC it'll tank to like 1-4 FPS before crashing after 3ish seconds
i have to fill this to get to lvl 3 right
yeah
and a smol quest perhaps
where we tie the knot with our supreme chief

no fucking way.
just use a little more space for the originium cubes, thats so many bridges
^ 1k IQ player..
Everything as planned..
this gives the feeling of DVD icon hitting the corner ong
i literally have no space left
and i dont wanna use the subpac
guess ill just die
We'll have to delegate like half a subpack for carbon production
next patch we might get like 2 more forges
just move xiranite into them, they can safely fit 4 easily
Eh, isn't we supposed to still have many free space even with the update?
Anyone have a photo of the new outpost exchange where it shows how much everything sells for? Not at home atm but wanna do some math
4 forge, 2 new bat, 1 new syringe only right?
Me also just use main one.
is it not possible to metastorage transfer xiranite components ?
just do manual transfer on dijang
Xyranite related items only depending to the forge production.. -_-)
(not my pic)
Is there new factory in update
Plus 2.75 yazhen c with metatransfer
Sweet thanks
Ok
30 ferri without meta storage, 55 with for syrC or drinkC..
Meta storage.. Free stuffs..
Is 592 bills a minute good? In wuling
Its just brun out
anyone HAS 30/m Xiranite that is 21x19?
(even better if its less than that)
looking for a variation or might looks better than....
Tank
If my math is correct that’s what I’m currently at I may can make a little more just don’t know what the amount is to max out
I finally did it bro. No clogging
mine is 31x24 for 60/min
16x24 for 30
36288/h
ok wow my game actually crashed
how does it looks for 16x24?
Ok thanks that’s 605 ish a minute so I have a small bit more to get
I fucking hate overworld pipes
I use 14x30 ones, havent gotten to remodeling it to support 3 yet, waiting until 6
for the most part, it can also be changed to fit the underground pipes
but it is technically larger than a 19x21 in terms of tiles
but it has better threshold fitting inside the current map size
im trying to remodel current one that i use (19x21) , to copy it 4 times and make a good looking water outlet supply them
a pair or a quarter design will do....
Except for the sewage clogging if you drop below max production
nah like i said it wont clog dont worry
What's the current max yield for originium ore in Wuling after getting regional 8?
480
oh thecuprium parts? just make syringe
or much better, components
Ohhh,enough for 2 new wuling batteries, that's nice
No, I mean that if your xircon production drops, the effluent reactor will not be able to consume all the sewage and your cuprium will slow down
why would you think it will drop?
does qingbo stockade have a new place to sell factory goods?
oh you worry too much ofc i stop crafting components once a reach a certain point
those components are always temporary so i farmed that first before building my battery
whats something i should be producing early game aside from buck c and also sc batteries
3/min syringe C or jincao drink line can be made
1.5
thank you
Aside from updates making components an ongoing expense, you are nonetheless giving up syringe production while crafting components
battery prod*
I can't wait to get into the new production lines but the game is slow af
minmaxing? bro even if im only using SC batteries i will always ran out of stock bills
you can make 10.7 sc bat 1.3 comp/min but imagine setting that up 
I need to setup defenses for Wuling to get that outpost regeneration holy hell
statistic and setting up to achieve that is different story
and you dont need xyranite on syringe
That's the point, if you spend xiranite on components with your current design, your syringe production drops
like i said you worry too much, i wont ran out of xyranite cause i dont use more than i yield
sewege looks like cherry juice in the tank... Are we sure we can't drink this stuff?
yeah i am not doing the math for that splitter
That's not what I even said lol
But if you want to run suboptimally that's fine, I just wanted to mention it since you claimed it would not clog
as long as i ran out of stockbills, it doesnt matter if i use my other ores on components
In Immersive Engineering we were eating concrete. Here we are drinking sewege bottles
Put inside bottle.. Pack it and sell it daily in nodes..

it will not clog bro chill
thats why aic report exists
Dude this stuff looks tasty af
I wish I was good with photoshop to make a Cuprium bottle with Sewege inside and make a meme out of it
Cherriwage juice.. °-°)b
The scenario I described is possible, please don't misrepresent it
i know what you mean, thats why im teling you dont worry about it, since those cuprium part goes to the syringe. if not, to the components
🤦♀️ As I've said several times now, it is the cuprium that will slow down in this scenario. Less cuprium
im not building both components and syringeat the same time
Whatever you choose to spend the cuprium on will slow down when xiranite is limited
can we not use the pipe splitters outside AIC?
place from craft menu
facility list whatever
There's the button of facility list
ohhh tysm
how much power do save from changing your regular miners to water miners
Each electric mining rig only cost 5 power though
Sure it save much but still-
ouch 
Put a useless memo becon somehow 11 people fixed it
from mk2 to full water I saved about 200 pwr I think
i kinda dont understand where are we supposed to get water for this ore patch?? i tried using the lake above but apperantly there is pipe length limit
use the conduit
im not sure what youre telling me at this point. there are 4 forges active rn. 2 of them goes to the batteries. 2 for components and the rest of the cuprium on syrnge. ofc syringe will slowdown. but does it matter?
conduit has 200m
I haven't start explore for new ores yet 

oooo ty ty
Rush in?
just go casually, don't like us, dead game for another 32days
If you are spending xiranite on non-battery items, this will result in your effluent reactors running at less than 100%. Since that is the only sink for sewage in your image, this means that the cuprium refining machine will slow down as it has nowhere to send its sewage. This means less cuprium parts, regardless of where those cuprium parts end up going
Super compact xircon
and when will that happen exactly?
you can't minmax battery if using conduit?
For example, when making components
💔 cooked
ill need to stay 2 more days before i make new stuff ig
or can i sell new stuff to lev2?
you can spend that time making xia components or the new conpenent
making the new comps
was wondering if i should make xiranite too since i can make 2 more
ofc
make more xia, they are free
you need xyranite for component
same too
Do you think it's worth making single machine xircon builds? Priority flow is a lot more annoying if you don't do both at once
why keep getting clogged? how to prevent this?
isn't xircon sewage loop fully self sustaining?
It wont be a problem because im only producing a single set
unclog it, press claim
it will be up 100%
i mean after i press claim all
it will still happen after 5 mins
likely there is a problem on your protocol stash
overproduction is fine.... you can keep some in the depot for delivery
You just limit other xiranite consumers?
or alreaedy full
btw, that powder is produced x2, so you need 2 belts
SUPER MESS
ok thanks
Aren't lc batteries strictly worse?
Same xiranite cost, more originium
not really, they have their uses
not everyone at lvl 3 outpost
they still need to trade in the LC
That's true, once you get to lvl3, they become obsolete
they wont be obsolete, they will be worth a minisculy less compared to the SC
and you kind of have to burn another battery if you go for 2 SC
It's more originium for less stock bills
just set 1 ferrum line for any C med and thats it...
no point if i stay under
which is what im doing
so you are burning 1 battery + partial for that extra 2-4 income per battery
which you kind of burn anyway
i'll just burn it, we have enough income to buy out stock
it's still going to very much empty out the outpost
its just a matter of how fast i stockpile stuff now
im just spreading the load of inventory
i mean look at my valley, its not super optimized but it doesnt matter either
Alright, i have mine 
Everything at a decent rate, no deficit
i just spread out the inventory so i can bank more
is this ok
actually it's 3.5
use a pwm or something
Why is it 3.5
being super optimized is not actually efficient in my eyes
It shpuld be like 1.5
3
1 battery is 3.2k
Use like, pwm 
i make gears too
What Mining rig do I need for the red rocks?
hydro rig

can't use pwm, the conduit won't work well with it i think
conduit doesn't use power tho?
What does conduit have with pwm
idk, my yield report goes down a little when i use pwm
Beauty in the making 
Mine is fine 
mine will look like this, 11 and 12 up down
how much ferrium should you be getting in wuling
90
90
yeah nvm, my current data was not matching my theo, graph updating
its not really underground
if only it can be used in valley 4 
you can place them on top of buildings and that assumes you pipe through the building
isn't there a boost in purity?
only for ori
regional dev 8 boosts purity
I updated my ferrium miners with water miners, saving a whopping 40 power
that's turret levels of savings like nickles 
but better than consuming more
Technologia
theo assumes average, this means your banks are clogged (full)
Cuz timings
so it scales from 2-4 consumption
so isit everyone or is mine something wrong?
it does for everyone
because you are using 1.5 or 3 or 4.5 per minute
but it can only display whole numbers
it is 18/9 on valley 4 i think
batts are used up every 40s, so that's 3 used in 2 mins (not counting initial fencepost lol)
a minute will show 1 usage, next minute will show 2 usage
2 thermal banks so that's 2 and 4
also, the new camera filter is ass 
I thought it would be a warm orange, not warm as in high constrast
petition to remake the warm filter into a dreamy orange
I just realize, I can use Protocol Stash as a overflow depot type.
Scenario: If the output lane is clogged, then transfer the remaining excess producto to depot.
we call it a buffer
also, spamming conduits...
if you use non-belt free yes, but I actually want to put it on depot.
we still dont have Smart Splitter, which you can control the flow of each direction
that's why I use Protocol Stash as a overflow for now...
can i use hydro mining on ferium???
yeah, apparently is.
but of course wuling exclusive.
unless you use water bottle then transfer it to V4
donno not worth for me to do it XD
BATTERY SAVER BEETCH
is this enough ?
care for the powder not the leaf
leave the leaf as it is
when I wanna do this, I utilize the converger quirk
for it to only stash during clogs
My wulling factory doesnt produce much energy cuz theres little to no ferium
Ya'll we can metastorage Cuprium or cuprium parts to Wuling from V4
why?
w8 really?
ohhhhh.....
Infinite parts for crafting
lack of space?
but its only 25/m but I guess it helps.
12.5/min actually
what do i do with sewage?
But you can craft buildings for free essentially
oh yeah because its only 750/item right
dump it into the ocean
i mean why you need to refine cuprium on V4?
parts
its not about refine it
Yea you can just do parts its same cost
its about transfering it using Meta Storage
why we transferring basic mats 😭
it says it cant discahrge
ah idk then
Its not the basic mat btw its the 2nd tier
Pump it into a treatment unit
Or somewhere where it need
every item can be meta transfered is it not?
raw material whatever 
It can but it doesnt use the item what is transferring, basically free.
Fine happy?
can i keep the sewage for later
pipebomb
yeah better if its the same cost
can someone who's outpost level 3 pls screenshot this? i wanna do some math
Uh
If u put it into a tank yes but
Theres 0 reason
Waste of time I alr have 78k pipebombs
Math of what sir
NOW YOU'RE enlighten
oh cuz like i want it for batteries right but idk if ill accidentally cripple my base if i do it now
You can just dump it into water treatment unit
Once u start making batteries, youll habe a "production" of sewage to use
how many cuprium tho
why cant I dump sewage :(
save parts for the road to 50k flamethrower towers
Not much but doing it means you can just have infinite source for facility construction
stock bill gain to avoid over producing so all extra mats can go to components
I wanted to fill up the big pit
wait which battery is it again
that's what she said
Sc
damn
dam
Gain is 36.2k/h currently
You make about 38k/h~ iirc
great day to figure out all new factory stuff suck at it give up and grab a blueprint
Or along those lines
ze beauty in adding conduits
Are these good?
cant you technically merge the output of two pumps into a single pipe? answer is yes
and the pipes can hold a max of 4 in a instance
I like symmetry 
nah
I made this, only using 2 pumps
ugh how do I make more batteries
more sewage
guys
I mean Forges can be smaller now for the inlet outlet
my most ugly creation (and yes i am capped out on xiranite... i wanna sleep
Nah you're looking at 41940 in production with a net 10.5 batt and 6 yazhenA
gulp
that's... what she said
Its best to put the sewage treament unit outside the AIC, like near a river 
are you chinese by any chance

no, I'm a Factorio player
nah, you should pipe it into the city first and setup on a road instead
ew 10.5 batts
am i doing this right?
should I move my xiranite to the sub PAC?
It’s when you have less than 3.4k power needed
Then you can drop one thermal battery
you need more treatment plants
you want a treatment unit for each refiner
blud wants the "Company who made the chemicals for non-stick pans" treatment
whats up with cuprium yield? theoretical yield is higher?
uh
ohhh i thought it deletes pollution rightaway
how many refinery did you build?
it just means you have 2 more refineries than you need
4
When do you unlock the new batteries and yazhen in the outpost?
the fuggin wall in the stockade
I think its locked to the important missions and might lead you to another 2 deposits
im just not touching base till i get lv3
Now that I think about it. The cuprium metastorage means you never have to disable YazhenA to make components
weird, might be UI bugged or something
You can just bank some xiranite and it’ll be enough
yea
Brother do you want more resources
why can't we just dump polluted water straight to Wuling city drinking water
i want to not play the game 🗣️
yeah, but double check you might have building there who uses cuprium recipe.
is it possible to put sewage into my depot
so theoretical data can be right
In bottles yes
yes i turn off 2 but it's not reflecting. a bug maybe
delete them
and then the bottles i can empty out to use right? i want to keep the sewage
oh even you turn off them it still count as theorical data
Yep you can do that
Made this with the plant to expand the sewage to a SC bat production if the stockade reaches lv 3
ahhh ok....
is that smart
how disappointing
Honestly no we only need 60/min of sewage rn
again Theoretical Data is base on Buildings that already insert a recipe or materials.
Cos a 12/min setup can feed into itself
ummm is there a blueprint i can copy? i think i fucked up
You can use 120/min sewage it’s just that the sewage produced midway will have to be treated instead of recycled
dont you lock up if you dont use sewage 
LOWLIGHT, MAKE US DUMP SEWAGE AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
how are yall using your xiranite
I'm doing one SC fac (60), one LC fac (30) and one half power gear line (30)
Water treatment the excess
accurate capitalism
you can magically delete tanks
yes 
i think
manual input 
Has anyone made a new type of LC battery yet? I mean like LC bat min/max version 120/min xiranite
I’ll 120 on sc until I need more components
immmmm just gonna use it all
fuggin early-game tech when handling any form of by-product (sewage)
im not at depot 3 yet I can't 120 sc
still need lc to sell

Should’ve banked outpost on xp 
I got in legit instantly when I logged on
I wish we have a more punishing piping system where we make pipes first before the pump to not spill anything
conduits and treatment being 3x3 fucks up so many ideas
have fun with that
You don’t have the OG production for that
they should make whenever there is a sewage spill, monsters spawn right there LOL
does LC wuling still have the same ratio? 💀
so no easy disposal
It is no longer economical to make lc batteries now
Gleba?
SC is both more expensive and uses less net originium
LC wuling is economical unless you go lvl 3
factorio OG
bro wtf is with the size of sub pac 💀
You don’t want to go to lvl 3?
Am going to hate, Endfield if they introduced spoilage.
my outpost is soo broke, it didn't make a dent in my battery stockpile nor yazhen stockpile
Should’ve left it alone for 3 days 
Imagine you forgot to exchange bills your product, then suddenly gone. Reduce to atom.
^^ THIS, how am i supposed to even make more money when outpost is hella broke and i still have 50k LC batteries left
WAIT SO LIKE
My capitalistic urges aren't sobering anytime

you can't infinite loop the sewage can you?
Capitalist at least understand long term investment. Wait 3 days to start production of 1.5x more bills at lvl 3
I like how conduits also act like a smaller fluid tank
its fine, still related to factory though. But I like more Fulgora I say but Gleba once you have defense system, you can go ham.
...or hire a better person to make more earnings...
I got criticized for calculating weekly earnings...
yes probably because of that, i can make use my artillery upgrades on gleba
boom boom
Ohhh so its 24/min? Thats minmax right?
LOWLIGHT, GIVE US AIC RAIDS AND MY LIFE IS YOURS IN A MORE DEPRESSING WAY 🔥 🔥 🔥
It’s also impossible
yeah they should put events related to AIC. please.....
give us advanced oil processing
Why tho? Ran out of origi?
Max ori is 480/min rn so yeah
Build more ore
Everyday smth like that?
🦅 🦅 🦅
Not enough at all
cracking oil, to atomic level.
Best u can do is 3 lc then the rest for xira components
GIVE US BURDENBEAST FARMS, I need to manufacture processed meats and fertilizers
Are there any bp that produce maximum amount possible for lc wuling batteries?
I want to level up the second base asap
You have just enough originium to make a 2.66 lc line. It will cost 75/min xiranite to run
I thought more forge of the sky fixed the slow production
Anyways thank you! 
Start banking as much xiranite as you can asap. You’ll need a lot for both components
any new factory blueprints with new resercuoe
chat is this true
blueprints in blueprints channel? no fucking way
Ofc, i never lie
Didnt you say like 20 minutes ago youre going like, to sleep
Well, yes
is that max yet? (stock stuff only)
Are u manually transfering bottles?
what bottles
Fir jincao
i metatrans ferr
whats the ferrium part for?
just monitoring pin
Cuz each battery line takes 30/min ferrium
Leaving u with 30 to use
ohh
it says here 15/min
but the jincao is still 3/min
no decifit
idkl why
the theretical one is still 30/min

Oh well, as long as its making what u need
I took away from yazhenA to make comps too
So im at 4.5, 9, 1.5/min
guess im gonna "fix" it after my reputation rank goes up
was this supposed to happen?
he's rusty
I just realized that pipe convergers finally have a purpose in the SC wuling battery line
managed to compress my line further down into 30x25
Is there any beginner friendly AIC factory setup for wuling?
which product would you like to generate?
LMFAO
Updating the enviroment monitoring center will straight up boost you 1 level
WHAT THE HELL
ofc xernite

Asia or US?
i went from 80% lv7 to 80% lv8
asia
neat
here's my production line for xiranite. it's fully self sufficient.
but you have to manually connect it to a pump
code: EFO01O4a78ia62IoE9oe4
Tysm
np
actually wait
I have an updated version
although I haven't have it saved yet
but that works as well
Oh
So will u share it?
is anyone able to metastorage transfer cuprium bottles
redesigned my cuprium lines
yup just waiting on blueprint approval
ok
we can't metatransfer from wuling back to v4 afaik
Can we metatransfer xirenite then 
code: EFO01O4a78ia62IoO9oe4
I updated it to have less width so I could fit 4 of them side-by-side in the core aic
Ok ty
how do i move sewage liquid to my factory after i store it in a fluid tank?
ze beauty of my forges....
you can't dump it anywhere. your only options are to use it in another reactor (part of SC wuling battery line), or just send it to water treatment
use bottle
it looks so much sleeker now, compared to my past SC wuling line that took up so much space lol
which recipe
i only have 27k batt for in wuling, is this enough for a 500k pts to lvlup? i have lifeng, forgot that, i need to lvl3 first the outpost before changing my layout lol
manual bottling
don't mind the thermal banks for now, I'm waiting for DIGE to include SC wuling batteries 😭
Bro cant we make it from carbon? (Like buckflower)
you need to process carbon a few times before it can be used to make xiranite
the reason why I use a yahzen planter instead of buckflower is because the former has a higher carbon output
1 yahzen = 2 carbon
1 buck = 1 carbon
you can easily find them all around so you don't have to worry about that part
afaik jincao also has a 1:2 ratio
Ohh
Is it possible to run 2 lines of SC wuling battery, or is there not enough ferrium?
each line only uses 30/min
so you can have two and still have 30/min more to spare
I use that excess on a very slow yahzen syringe c line
Cool . what is the bottleneck now? Xiranite?
2 lines will max out your xiranite, originium, and cuprium input
Trying to decide what to transfer in from valley 4
but you actually don't need to use cuprium on the actual product line, just the sewage you get from refining
I SHOULDVE WAITED FOR SOMEONE TO MAKE AN OPTIMAL BLUEPRINT OF THE NEW BATTERY CUZ HOLY FUCK
so you could send them to depot for future use
THIS IS A STRUGGLE
it is
why is this sometimes flahsing red
but the optimization was worth it
nothings wrong right
probably full in the stash
dont combine treatment
why
your sewage is full
it really is
it took me like 3 hours just to compress the line from left to right
oh ok i see
the refining and treatment both takes 2 seconds
it only deletes 1/2s
Treatment plant only treats 1 dirty water per 2 seconds
so the building rate must be 1:1
yes
you can remove one of the cuprium then loop back the sewage from the end product to the sewage line
i tried to prepared for the SC wuling bat, dang the 4:1 ratio triggers me 
true
Treatment unit cant take 2
that one sandleaf
The sandleaf production is 5.33 belts.
So why not shred that 0.33 and pack in delivery?
yup ik, but I made my blueprints such that each config will also use 2 cuprium lines.
this way, whenever I have to swap my sc battery line for something else (ex. components), I don't have to set up a seprate line for it
It's probably easier to remove 1 refinery and 1 treatment plant somewhere else than to do it inside a contained block
when you need to
also safer since the cuprium wont stop refining if this ever clogs
oh well we'll see in the future ig
but as of now I log in daily so clogging isn't an issue
I'll see what I could do
That's it? No water recycling or anything?
yea it just goes into a black hole
That's... pretty boring lol
if it gives water, it might just clog and not process sewage anymore lol
energy and space tax
it wont be an issue
the other option is just put it into tanks, then remove it manually 
ok but u need to pipe it out
and since a lot of stuff uses water
that sucks
its actually better for the factory setting

