#aic-factory
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well it's half
yeah but you cant properly ratio it
Isn't metatransfering bottles pointless?
Its the same after conversion. Difference is you use less power and space
it's better since you can just cut bottle line
You still need a bottle machine in wuling
i suppose
And its easier to transfer from dijiang
You could metatransfer refined ferrium I guess?
Thats the primary reason for me
you can skip a moulding machine on wuling for ferrium bottles
You can't, not if you want the optimal ratio
or do the same for parts and a fitting machine
Is that cause we don't need ferrium in valley anymore?
you still need a moulding unit. coz 12.5/min isnt enough
V4 shop should be drained by now
if ratio is not optimal, then one of the 2 fills the depot slowly
The new item is a one time only purchase i think?
i'm actually making bottles in wuling and transfering parts now
so this is fine right
metatransfer doesnt take your items away, it duplicates your items and send it to wuling
basically free
since i want a bit of surplus of ferrium bottles to do game things
Okay so bottles is best for that?
Its the same
Pogđ„č
meta transfer bottle isnt enough
but need to think a bit
so you create molding unit anyway
Bottles has the advantage of dijiang abuse
transferred bottles in 1.0, but still did bottles and parts in wuling and did proper ratios with splitters
but not fitting unit
show me a 2.75/min and i'll be good
wait what should you transfer
i had perfect numbers in 1.0
it isnt ferrium anymore right
dont live in yesterday
ferrium
i won't have them anymore in 1.1 cause i don't want to
still ferrium?
?
escapist
it's on purpose man, i already told you
make yazhen [a], outpost does not buy jincao tea
yes still ferrium, since you already using perfect ratio of originium and copium
is there a way to click on conveyors that are underneath pipes while in the topview mode....
ya i already swap it
i can easily do the same thing again in 1.1
transfer 1500 ferrium (block)
ahh
yeah easy to say
are you joking?
if you are still doing some yazhen C or jincao drink.
hmm
you can leave it if you just do SC
ya im just doing sc wulbat rn
what's the current max yield in wuling? I'm making this much atm
the [c] one right?
the [a] doesnt need ferrium
so i expected to make 12 sc wulbat and 6 yahzen [a]
yeah A is good at full prod
aight
I havent checked, but does red component used xira and will this be the end of xira component?
Yes, no
Well shit 
Use wulf for getting money. Use lifeng for trading
And depot loader user has to be a bannable offense
should i get lifeng...
avy for prosperity works too,incase u dont have lifeng
Life is only useful if ur not maxed on prosperity
Ik
balance table for some new comps
But hes not
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so for all new facilities only need to make this red partsïŒ
Just keep using wulf. Regardless what you do, you will unlock the lvl 3 stockade in like 2 days at most
yeah i traded using avy when the server opened. also i have 1.2m so i leveled immediately
We have lvl3 nowđ„č
so you at lv 9 rn?
And holy the upgrade
From 16k/h to 36k/h
So peak
Artificing is now and will always be gatekeeped by store supply
yikes
If u have lvl3 outpost youre lvl9 rdm yes
compare this to lv2 outpost
cant find much on this, but is anyone else crashing on pc with the aic multi select tool? its like as soon as i press the button it crashes
lv2 is 16770/hr
more than twice
im so done
god
oop
thats so ass
Im at like 140/150 rn
Riperino

u swapped production before hitting lv3? 
yea its enough
im so dumb
Keep wulfgard for that 16k/h
Then before u trade in, switch to ave
Managed to get under 3.4k power while producing nearly everything. Swapping to water mining rigs saved about 250 power
bro has 1 shot and missed
just don't forget to swap back to avy or ur gonna be like 10k short 
hmm
Schizo
Is this tang tang?
Im at 3.9k power
i mean kinda
Just do less lmao
im gonna wait for someone to make a better factory for Cuprium
What's the maximum amount of stuff you can make this update?
@loud river
Iâm gonna have to rework my factory for the sake of this update 
Blue ore didn't even increase did it? Have wuling at lvl 9 but still 90/m
Things needing blue ore have changed now though so like
Cause cup exists now
listed in priority
- SC: 12/min
- Meds A: 6/min
- Meds C: 2.75/min (can skip)
If you were banking xiranite last patch, now is the time to overclock to make components
Shouldâve banked more
I only have enough for 5k components

had 48k battery, yazhen, and the green juice thing
packed assets
I'll make components first then
wow looks so good. definitely meant to be enjoyed on a latest device
my game lowkey looks like a Roblox game

Wait you can do that?
even using 2 SCs for thermal. and omitting meds C
also is there like a video/guide on how to properly use the water pumps and the new water related pumps. I'm not sure how many buildings one single water pump can supply. Or how if I'm laying pipes wrong
U can drop it to 1 sc if you drop yo Yazhen C and swap all rigs to water
Why didn't i think of changing all the rigs to water
Yes that's what I've been fucking doing
yeah imma try later. i still have my hoarded stuff to burn
I had to delete my syringe c to get it below 3.4k
i saw the blueprint and i was like :0 why is it so fat
thanks 40k hole
I made a 33x62 12/min sc battery setup
you served well
This one is missing 2 originium lines
that was my old battery line
ill redo it later lol
does water rigs work on ori and ferrium? 1 fluid pump to 3 rigs ratio right?
couldnt be fucked to redo the full battery line
Water works on all
1 pump 3 rigs yes
But it's 1 pump for 6 if your regional is low level
Quick stock up, will lower it after a whileđ€
The new water stuff all cost 0 energy
What do you do with the inert xircon
yeah dont say it like a salesman
I don't get it
say the hidden costs 
10 to pump
what's the new way in Wuling to connect to relays to mine ores ??
aight still good stuff
Finish the story and drag from outpost
Through the big gate
so hydro mining can mine other ores too then?
That's the waste, truly usless, even the sewage has a use
ferrium too?
i already finish the 1.0 wuling story mode
what do you mean another outpost ?
The 1st one
Do the thing u did like Lodespring
time to put that liquid xiranite to good use huh?
And quarry
So you just keep it in the machnine?
You can pipe the 40k all the way back to aic with no energy cost 
i just emptied the whole 40k yes, which i stored since i saw the SC production line from the dev preview video
that's what i did i took the wire from Main AC to try to connect to relays ? or does it have to be SUB AC ?
Treatment unit is basically the trashcan for fluids
Doesnât matter but I used sub cos closer imo
fair enough. I'm sitting here waiting for the chance to try to build one of those new production lines
Do it with the new building lmao
You can basically use it as a storage now
it uses protocol capacity
Thanks to the 200m
in the coming days, when we do nothing anymore
pipes don't use capacity
I'm waiting on the AIC to create a backlog of these things to build the machines with
well, they have their own limit
Increased to like 350 no?
still low, since we need a lot more pumps for the new lines
our aic activity will die down faster than 1.0
also, 350 is already the max, but we will get more things with new patches
This patch is dry content wise honestly
I should setup 1 more line to do this since I have 35k ore 
this is all the extra I have that gathered before I set these things up
TK the lord for 120 cuprium and not 90
I rigged them super early so I got 35k
It took me a bit as I was enjoying the way the new area looks
Do you have this table but only 1.5/min battery usage
Just mult the battery by 7/6
do i seriously need to route the water from over there
Yes use the wifi water
have drones deliver them
Is there a smaller design for plants (to produce carbon) ? Those planters are taking up too much space đ
use wuling plants
wuling crops give 2x the carbon
so the purity increase from development in wuling city doesn't give more ferrium ore? that is unfortunate.
@wary vine
Just FYI, Wuling Flowers give 2x carbon
make the production line with the planters included instead of using the bus
I'm trying to see how the hell do I compact the xiranite line
turn it onto a repeatable line
That makes it uglier
Oh, for you Ugly =/= Efficient.
@marble yarrow are all 4 forges of the sky required for full output for the max stockade production?
does v4 factory production change with the new patch?
Yeah I want it more readable than "efficient"
with only 2 outputs you can't really make it not lopsided
yeah coz 12 SC = 120 xiranite
I haven't done the math for it yet so I had no clue. Thanks a ton
I better wait for a good battery stock and than start reworking the factory for the coprite lines
you are forced to do SC, coz the outpost bill generation more than doubled
I still need to wait for that part sadly
I'm still stuck at lvl 2 sadly
does v4 factory production change with the new patch?
nope
thats good
no machines that affect it
now i can sleep 
i mean like do i need to produce anything else besides batteries, buck C, and buck A
i assume no
even just 18/min buck A and 18/min hc battery is enough so you're good
You only need to produce 1.718/min YazhenA to buy out the outpost if youâre SC battery is at 10.5/min
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whats the best tactical in general to use for healing?
I forgot to sell my valley 4 stuff
FUCK
I got no bloody idea
i see... thanks..
I was using Jincao drinks until now but we got Jincao Tea now in the last patch
too bad you can't sell it also...
@jovial breach Just overuse your xiranite and underproduce your YazhenA
Youâll get max efficiency components for a night
Too late im already on bed
i juz did what u asked . it still does not allow me to connect to the xiranite relays at all
Do you see the yellow lines
yeah no need to day1 comps
Get closer
i show u a pic
(im just lazy)
Do comps d1 so you can accumulate the rest on your own time
was genuinely considering dumping sewage into a random Wuling river for a second
system finally won't get backed up yipee
They donât let you dump it 
i already have 3/min creepin
m an
Iâm running full 6 cos I have surplus xiranite
40 energy saved in just 1 spot, this is glorious
Get that number below 3.4k
i'm on it
Itâs absolutely doable if you change all of Wuling
Since u just started
Also just a heads up
Water rigs donât need power
Only the pumps will need power
ye, that's the point
No as in
Theyâll still function
Without a relay on them
You donât need any in the mining area
Just at the pump
those in the middle of the pic are pumps
@cobalt oriole
Bruh
Your linking a v4 relay to a Wuling relay
Just use only Wuling relays in Wuling
They donât need to be manually connected
how do u see that option ??
Not an option. Just use the green ones
you just place down the xiranite relays
hey, does regional development lv8 mean all mineral beds in jingyu valley are high purity? if so, why mine still has low purity?
The only new thing that can be sold is just the parts right now?
Or do I have to unlock something?
There's a trick if you want to use valley relay with wuling relay
Just connect both of them to the same thermal bank
yeah idk if i wanna use buck A for tactical still
next version will have more stuff
wish i could do this on v4
i guess i'll pass on pumping water on things like this, since it's the same energy consumption
upgrade outpost lv3
What parts
Copium parts?
i guess i could go crazy and pipe the third pipe elsewhere
Pipe it to your farm maybe
dang, should have saved my batts and syringes then. takes so long to save up for next lvl outpost
Oh i forgot bout that thanks
Output income get capped eventually, you can't save it for days.
not a bad idea, even if i have my farm turned off. might as well have it done now if i want to turn it on later.
Pipe/pipe logistics dont take facilities space right
there are another 2 places in wuling with just 2 ore nodes, and then there is this far south...
this technically means the optimal solution is to pipe the 3rd pipe of each other place to here
no like, should not have traded for a few days so i have stock now so i immediately lv up
nope, you can use splitters to get longer segments
Aight bet, imma do exactly that tmr
splitters count as another pipe segment
idk if i'll have enough pipe capacity for that though
Wdym?
since i also have 2 pipes going to and from the 40k place
There's pipe capacity?
yep
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it's hidden, like building capacity
I skipped yesterday so... I'm just waiting for the update to get in.... but it's almost 2 AM and I have work lol
you can get 3 hydro miners per pump, 1 pump is 10 energy, 1 miner mk2 is 10 energy, so you save 20 per pump
Bridge count toward building capacity btw
The miners themselves donât cost energyâŠ
Crazy
Anyone found the 200m connector capacity
Hydro miner work on .... Ferrium??
hydro miner is basically a mk3 (but less energy instead of more like mk2)
Daily reset is soon, right? lol
What is it
the water treatment unit is just for flavor?
You have to dispose of some liquids
You need it to make sc battery
It just deletes the liquid
water treatment just means voiding
Unfortunately it doesnât become water
If you dont trash can the excess liquid your production gets clogged
would be cool to reuse the water
do i use meta transfer to transfer HC battery to wuling for thermal banks ?
No
i prefer it like this tbh, if it became water it would be way worse
Iâd loop it back into the system
Water loop :P
why u could reuse as surplus
have you made aluminium in satisfactory?
No, you only bring hc battery with you to start making wuling battery, after that you dont need it anymore
I havenât played that game
basically, there is water surplus, but it's so easy for it to clog the whole thing if you loop it
Loop it, remove the pump,...
even the best players have a hard time with it
Ah
no, the thing is that it's not the same quantity needed vs the quantity you get at the end
Not bad for day 1
Iâm super proud of this specific chunk of spaghetti and meatballs
and even if it was the same quantity, computer errors might fuck it up with time
MathâŠ
computer, not math
Mine is symmetrical
Mine is the same when rotated 180 degrees around the depots
Yeah no worries I got you
Bruh, epic sadge, max allowed is only 512 buildings.
is there any way to automate the production of the best healing items?
or its just farm?
The Fine Dining stuffs? Just farms
Is there a new Sub-pac in the new region or do I have to get power from the old area?
I greatly enjoy not having to use two planters and a seed unit in order to grow a single crop
Look for large open flat area near a settlement :P
If there is one, there is prob a sub-pac
If not, no
does anyone quickly know how many waterpumps I need for the new miners?
Is one for 3 miners enough?
Pipe flow rate is what? 2?
yes. and my water pump is constantly clogged đ
Yes
should I not have them running in series?
as long as they're mining doesn't matter if pipe is clogged (it'll be clogged anyway because there's excess)
Doesnt matter, as long as 1 pump is connected to only 3 its all good
That splitter at the front is not needed tho but
Is daily reset in like... 3 min?
I mean it also doesnt harm right
it's like, free, anyways
EU/NA is in like, 14 hours
"Free" cause there is a cap on pipes.... apparently
In 3 minutes!...and 14 hours
I'm in Asia
flow rate of 2/sec
very annoying
I don't use many anyways, I've removed them all form puzzles and stuff after I was done with em
is there a good resource for the new recipes? Don't see them on Endfield DB yet
Recipes?
yeah, like what resources and facilities are needed to make X
Oh well
You need cuprium to make..well, everything new
I also wanna mention that I hate this
While the new batteries dont need cuprium, they need facilities which need cuprium to be built
So
oh, nvm, i forgot about this place, i don't have to pipe all the way to the south
(in the next episode of etrexum z: etrexum discovers a 5 bed mining place in another zone and has to pipe all the way there)
guys my AIC factory has a big problem...i cant quite figure out whats wrong...
theres a big hole where there was lots of buildings before
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Darn it I reached my facility limit.
U deleted it
Can't use the entire space. đą
I assume 2 water pumps are enough for 6 hydro miners.
Fellas did i do this right?
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465843586938441894
How good is this one?
any factory build i can follow for valley that easily lets me clear the 3 outputs every day? i took one from a guide early days and its good but it doesnt swipe the whole output properly
anyone else crashing everytime they go into top down view in factory?
is it 1 fluid pump for 3 mining rigs or 2 mining rigs?
i literally cant do anything
3
Ive been using this and its good

Good but outdated
aight enough for the day
So with 12/min sc batteries and 6/min yazhen A we have an excess of 30/min ferrium?
Hows dis
Yeah but there are no full bases that include cuprium yet
Since its too early
Yes, which is why u can make 3/min~ yazhenB
Full bases for what? Just use modular
yeah thats ok. using the final sewage
yazhenB?
Do you know a good one?
C, sorry not B
what does the thumbs up mean?
I mean...all it needs is the new cuprium components and that's it
Good job.
Og come on
it means it's recommended.
If you need space just casually move you factories outside of AIC
Last Rite has a BIG competition now lol
Which technically means nothing since you need to make several different materials for full production.
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well still, that's what the thumbs up means. If it's correct or meaningfull, I guess not. But that wasnt the question. 
I always run out of minerals before I run out of space but if I need to it'd be nice to put sandleaf generators outside the base
I couldnt not care less about tangtang đŹ
and that's me having everyone except tangtang and pog
Using final sewage to double the uh greenthing
so without any weird battery minmaxing and two thermal banks
thats 6 yazA/min and 9 sc battery/min for selling
618 stocks/min , 37,080/hr
outpost earnings is 36,288/hr
guess we dont need to make the yazC
Does this work
I was dumb and didn't have 1.6 million stock to trade for prosperity, anyone got the new trade chart?
True, I was just expanding on it
I had Wuling bills stocked up so stuffs were upgraded immediately.
Yes, but only with building that donÂŽt recquire items
there's probably a hyperminmax setup where you also make yazC and make zero point something components but 
But those will take up Protocol Capacity I think?
cuprium components affect both yazA and sc battery
Not a very big concern imo
With how big Wuling map is and with farming, it is tho.
Imma go to bed, bye
I guess I could check the number but itâd be in the sub AIC
12.5 ferrium bottle/min via metastorage
oh dear lord its a weird number. YazC is working at 41.67% capacity
really bad ratio if you meta transfer bottle
hmm
you'd have to properly balance if you're sending ferrium directly
Is the YazC just what you do with the extra 30 ferrium
this is for 30 ore + 25 ferrium meta transfer
because sc batteries use ferrium
bottle and parts in 1:2 ratio
Guess I'm going to refill the cavern with xiranite or something
oh you sent ferrium not ore
yeep conduit behave like electrical tower 
PS5 so sorry about the picture, but this is my current chronic production line, when it first was up I was making some but it suddenly stopped making xron efficient
Everything's booked up I've got a waste treatment hooked up on the 3rd crucible
If I didn't screw up this picture can someone see why it stopped?
it's gonna take days to get to lv 3...
too bad you didnt saved up
Middle crucible produces a waste too
Inert Xircon Effluent
Whereâs your inert fluid going
And sewage isnât really waste
You also need 2 inputs of xircon effluent into a crucible for peak efficiency
My outpost was at full capacity so with lifeng you need ~3.1 days of saving
yeah, I guess I can also make gear in the meantime
It is if you use wulfguard
Anyone have Asia xirnaite farm
Now we finnally need something big
Like 120
Or maybe more nvm
Ts working now lol it was the inert lol, changed the waste treatment around and yeah I'm set
2 hours of wondering etc I did wrong fixed in mins hahah
EFO018IeEi058A12IUI73
Thnx
cant upload images atm but thats 120 xiranite/min
does each hydro mining rig need 1 water per second?
chat I know I'm slow to the party but I just put all the copper mines
and I hab a question.
if I use splitter, does the yield slow down?
like I connected one water source for 3 mines, should I not do that?
asia?
Yeah
idk weird Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO018IeEi058A12IUI73. Copy it and use it in the game.
Proud of this one
I did say that
idk weird Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: . Copy it and use it in the ga
Got it
Thnx
does anyone have good Bp so i can rush outpost to lvl 3 ?
sewage gang
Whatâs the point of the separation facility?
im still pissed we can't dump sewage
not really but you can make 2.6 battery facilities with the available originium, and just copy/paste the forge of the sky setup you had since the cap is now 4
thats what big corpo said
i dont know why i didnt thinks about copy/paste.... Thx
What is the ore output when I reached outpost lvl3?
is my mining alright chat?
I just took off 1/3rd of one of my battery facilities to match the originium supply
We only have the two copium ore spots in the new region, right? Feels like I don't really have what I need to expand my factory much unless I am missing something. I guess increasing the civ level over the next little while will increase ore quantity, but I assume we can't get that this early.
you probably want to just use a single splitter for consistency, so the chart doesnt fluctuate
it still works either way
copium is 120/s, which is enough for 4 refiners, it still works out better than the 90 ferrium we get
I only have 80/sec right now
since you can make both parts and bottles for yaz A
might want to double check that you're mining all your spots then
Isn't it just these two?
yes but click on them to make sure a rig is on them
says rig is working on all
and that you're providing enough fluid
you might also not have enough development level
go upgrade your depot, your owl stations etc
yeah that is what I am thinking, but isn't that time gated?
my weird usage is i use it for inter-outpost liquid transfer (filling to depot to separation)
development not prosperity
are the old owl stations upgradable again?
there are some new ones on this map that can go to lv 4
and the depot can go to lv 3
oh, wish the game had indicated that lol
No
click on each facility and you can see whether it's maxed
you can see level on top right
I have a Question what can i build in my factory as a total noob And Beginner ?
I forgot these terminals even existed
they need to put an orange dot on this stuff. Haven't needed to touch these in 6 weeks
whatever you have the materials for. If you click on your hub you can see the yield of certain materials. You can also check your map for mining spots to get more income. Each port does 30/m and while you can throttle the output I don't recommend it this early on
since most facilities are tuned to receiving 30/m anyway

the facility sims do a pretty good job of explaining what you can do with your buildings and also give you some (unoptimized) blueprints to work with
Do you recommend anything ? Cuz Like I actually got no clue
kinda just wanna make money and get gear for my characters and all
make sure to focus on buck capsules and batteries for each tier
those will be the most important
i just very stupidly ditched my entire factory in prep for running with a new cuprium-inclusive blueprint without having upgraded my outpost so that I could sell any of the new products; feeling very dumb and disheartened and don't have the energy to completely rebuild my old factory from the ground up
progress in the story until you reach an outpost and they will have a list of thin gs they will trade for. I don't particularly recommend making gear this early on unless the combat is giving you trouble
I had a thing for Buck capsules but then had no Energy left so now I just wiped Everything and wanna start over but Kinda got no clue
this is why I always save a layout just in case I need to slap it back in. As far as I can tell it doesn't give you a limit to saved blueprints
i have them saved but don't remember anything about what was hooked to what and what plants were where
you can make a thermal generator and slot in some of those batteries to get more power, there should also be a tutorial on that
My Main Problem is that I dont have enough Energy to Build stuff
And I havent quite gotten how to actually work around that
ok wtf
it feels bad. i just mentally readjusted to all the new stuff. it's my own dumbass fault but that makes it feel worse lol.
try and do a basic setup for green batteries and the lowest tier of buck capsules. u can literally just use the blueprint the game gives u. u can use origium ore to power ur factory just place a shitton of thermal banks until u can reliably have a infinite stream of batteries to instead use them to power thermal banks.
what should i do with this 3600 sewage
start eating it
wtf it would be clogging my yazhen production
I completely forgot you can ore power lol
it's so inefficient but this early it doesn't matter
its the only option they have until they get inifnite green batts, then they can use green batts to power to start making blue batts.
then blue batts to purp batts, etc
it's been a while
huh
Imma try that do you have any blueprints for that (eu ) maybe
im Not to Found yet on the whole setup thing
If it works, it works
dont focus on a whole setup, just use the blueprints the game gives u
recommend you do the sim on it since it gives you a blueprint you can work with
im sure theres earlygame blueprints posted on the blueprints site though, i dont have the link on me at the moment tho
I need to calculate how much of everything else im actually making 
I mean I am getting maximum yield anyways
ok time to start actually making wuling megabase
What can you do with that even
we have no use for cuprium powder yet, right? I'm just kinda making it while I wait for prosperity 3
this is making my brain hurt already
......in that case we need water treatment
You can do that right?
yea its just for when they are all max purity, there will be microscopic losses if its rigged like that once everything runs at 100%, right now its running on a water overflow
turn it into cuprium parts, for build stuff
how many pumps do i need for 4 forges of the sky? 2 right?
I think i know what to do for that pond now .......
im doing dailies first
I mean this stuff
oh powder, not used in anything atm iirc
maybe I should hold off on it, I can't do that much with cuprium except make some gear and I don't need that much for that. I guess I could expedite prosperity 3 by making and selling cuprium parts but 1/1 prosperity feels bad
make delicious cuprium cubes
may not be the best but it works!!
taste like sewage
my sanity;gone with this damn sc battery
can you imagine what HC will be
oh wait there dont have to be space between depot and input?
I guess I can craft some armor fraggers
Holy hell, what is this production ?
whats the optimized yield this patch? 12/min sc and 6/min yazhen A?
wait a second, only two forges of sky
I can't seem to get the pipe splitter to redistribute water from one fluid pump to three hydro rigs? any idea what im doing wrong?
one pump serves two 2/s recipes
game broke my zipline, wow
one pipe can fit 2 pumps of throughput
I'm worrying if we have enough depot buses for that build
is there a video or something ... idk these pipes giving me a headache
cupium part default blue print usage be like
Hypergryph about to make you build a liquid-cooling gaming pc lookalike for HC Wuling battery
is it possible to get wuling development lv 9 right now?
yeah but you need to get your outpost to lvl 3
i assume we stop makign yazhen syringe c now
lvl 9 kind of pointless anyways atm though, lvl 8 is where it matters
yeah you do
pretty neat one I found on the internet
good
you could make 42.5% efficiency syrincy if you really want to
fuck that

i think im done building this patch
are we still makign lc wuling battery?
right so you are capped on coprium?
is cuprium cap 120/min?
yea cuprium is capped
cuprium? more like copium
its also good for extra power if needed, not using all the originium with this setup
oh
wait the sc battery doesnt use coprium anyway technically
it just uses the sewage
it will use all the xiranite if you do 2 of them
Max rn is 6 syringe and 12 battery right?
just this took so long
you only need 1 line of xircon which is 2 lines of xircon effluent which is 2 lines of xiranite right?
I think this is the best we can do right now ( with 35 ferrinium loss/min)
yea
click on pipes in that link and see how much is going where
each building requires 30/m, and 2 pumps will saturate the pipe at 120/m, after which the pipe can't carry more. 2 pumps serve 4 buildings
so only 1 line of sc battery then
oh dear, not using yazhen or jincao?
I did with external jincao farm
we only have 4 lines of xiranite right though?
yea
i mean does it really matter
it does actually, check the refining recipe for jincao/yazhen
i mean
yea
if your only goal is to make xiranite that works i guess
surely the optimal use is 1 line of sc battery, 1 line for xiranite components and 1 line for coprium
but you could save maybe, 200-300? power if you switch to yazhen/jincao
it saves 1 block of planting unit space
oh boy, new stuff
the cuprium is a byproduct of the xircon line so you can do whatever with it
breh
damn
Do conduit pipes have a weird delay in pumping water? It keeps flickering on my
no
Have anyone found the best amount of items to craft?
no? mine is stable
wait i dont get why yazen is better still
You can sell it
just calculated it, it should be 300 power exact saved if using jincao/yazhen method, but i mean up to you if you want to do that
refining unit
look at how much space it takes to produce 60 yazhen
which character should we assign to this for wuling?
compared to this.... less factory= less elctricity and yazhen produces 2 coal block for 1 plant
one of my setups, which is using 3 less planting units, 1 less refining unit, and 1 less seed unit for about 75 power saved per forge
dont u need another planter
nope
One seed gives you two plants
1 seed directly to 2 plant
only reason why you need another planter for v4 plants is because its 1 plant to 2 seeds, and seeds are useless, so you need an extra machine to turn that seed into a plant
guess ima have to scrap everything 
From the blueprint. The right outlet got 2 pumps running into it. The left outlet pump only 1. According to the description it should be enough. But the refining unit on the far left is struggling to get water. From the 2pumped outlet. (+ Some sewage getting pumped into SC batteries via conduit)

only thing you need to worry is water system and thats why I build it externally
it was comming off clean as well
oh fuck i need to drag in power from valley for the stockde right?
Yep but not much. Only for the water pumps
Which one you trying to produce, Riko?
wait 2 pipes can go into 1 water treatment thing? it doesnt become bottleneck?
The new one
we making cursed setups 
Lol wth
its like a net power increase of 20% per originium if you include all the facility needed to craft it
Rai, that's about as cursed as the setup I got goin' in Valley IV.
hehe tuff
i ended up connecting 1 pipe from wuling into jingyu for mining. no regrets.
all for 10 more energy
the beauty of underground conduits đ
Honestly, my whole production setup in Valley IV is such a jumbled mess, but at least it produces what I need.
Nah it is 1 each, but I threw splitters on all of them for now. As I doN't know how much sewage I needed for the SC batteries. And converged all the offshots into the conduit.
if it works , it works lol ... I will just copy other people's blueprint later
Good grief, that looks jumbled as all get-out.
I grabbed my blueprints from here. #1465512615898779810
woah that was super neat only one conduit?
Did anyone hit region lvl8 yet? Or did I miss something?
yep
Do you mean for the sewage to the Sc batteries? I guess so. Seems stable
you save more than just 1 planter, you save 4 plant facilities per xiranite setup
wuling plants refine into 2 carbon, v4 plants refine into 1
so you only need 1 wuling plant loop (1 planter 1 seeder) instead of 2 v4 plant loops (3 planter 3 seeder)
where should I get water for this mineral bed? thx! đ
just upgrade 2 depot nodes and environment terminal... dont need to wait outpost lvl 3
traditional way is with conduit input and output but I drew the water pipe from the river across the land
put the belt bridge in the middle to extend the max length of the pipe
2 depot nodes?
I did some calculations and found out the following ratio:
10 SC Batteries (-1.5 for power)
5.5 Yazhen Syrringe [A]
2 Yazhen Syrringe [C]
1 Xiranite Component
1 Cuprium Component
It gives 36720 stock bills which is enough to get all stock bills from the outpost (36288/hour, 432 excess). Also it makes both Xiranite and Cuprium Components and uses exactly 90 Ferrium, 120 Cuprium, 120 Xiranite and 400 Originium (If I did all the calculations right)
no sorry 1 depot node and 1 redistribution thingy
Weird I did that already
I think my setup is at 0.75 xiranute/cuprium component/min
i did the math and i won't be able to level my outpost for 39 more hours...
can you show me the point details?
I did earlier with my screenshot
ahhh yes that makes sense it wasn't going long enough thanks
oh yeah you are missing environmental terminal
that one
we only get 80 catalysts / week anyway so 0.39 xiranite or cuprium component/min
Ah damn thanks
is the max we need
yea a bit messy BUT IT WORKS
Dayum that is a massive point boost.
How many originium ore gates can you do in wulling?
what now
i assume you asking about this
my guess is they meant how much unloaders you could use with originium until usage exceeds the yield
Yeah what is the max unloaders
Ask them how much is 480Ă·30
its 16
What was it before this update
lvl 9 is nothing just increased stock bill cap
I removed 1 battery maker
Someone please educate my stupid brain, sewage is still building up but i thought converging pipes twice would account for 4 units per 2 seconds
Higher lvl in later update might finally max out the purity too.
use water treatment thing not conduit
try this
emm probably in rdl 11 i think because nothing says about purity in rdl 9
Eh ... how much unit of water does the water pump out anyway ?
60/m
Mfw I don't need to put the water treatment near the water??????????
Ive been lied to
Nice
1 per sec
conduit delete 30 sewage per minute, you need one conduit per refining unit
ye you dont have to
My stupidity has been cured again thank you
its not stupid, you just dont know
I kinda cooked
6 SC/min
6 LC/min
5-6 Syringe A/min
0.5 wuling components/min for each
The rest is pure xirante stocking up.
Is that good for the first day? I have job tomorrow so no minmaxing
Well if u want it to be
isnt it like 31.5k stock/h?
Conduit can transfer 2/s, you only need one conduit for 4 refiners to pipeout sewage as long as other end has 4 treatments or it goes to sc batteries
I kinda waste ferrium rn because i left some unused but they arent max stocked yet after i made 50k parts with them
36
So i guess thats not wasteful for now
I removed 1 battery maker added the new one and disabled 2 originium ore from the 2nd one and I am using too much
Should be 12
dont you need to use ferrium for the sc batterieis with the liquid xiranite for xircon which means less syringe?
need to use 1.5 LC for it all to work
Oh fuck
huh?
I frogot to connect the belt to thermal bank
idk what to do with these ferrium
Im on my bed rn
Thats water treatment plant not conduit
just tested, it but it uses pretty much the same space bec you gotta account for the plumming
panic grab some batteries from v4
to jump start
ooh my bad
Cant do it on my bed sadly
I wonder does conduit has a limit on how much input it can take
np phone?
I am feeling giga sleepy and my brain is not working properly soo i am assuming that mean 1 water pump can works substain 3 Refining unit for Cuprium ?
Phone has 1gb storage
oh
And i need to wake up in the next 3 hours
Fellas where do u guys throw excess sewage?
treatment plant
Your front door
2/s, becausr thats how much you can actually feed it (pipe max throughput)
No one making gear here?
I see
0.5 /min
U can treat sewage? Oh dang
Lmao
You only need 0.39/min
you can engrave using the xiranite component equipment as well so you dont need that many red ones
My set up:
Though technically half of that because youre making both xiranite and cuprium but you need both anw
Even at that rate, you dont make gears that much, unless you use ALL bills for gear artificing
god i wish we could just make fully efficient gears lines and have that actually be useful
i hate doing this half efficiency bullshit
Uh yeah, max amt needed just so we can put a number
Gear artificing is a scam because new gears will release every patch
And lv90 gears WILL come
There's not nearly enough Catalysts to support full efficiency
So 0.1/min is too much imo
I don't see that coming till 2.0+ tbh
For gears
Even so, unless you somehow dig up enough bills you aint gonna need more than 0.1/min
You're capped on the amount of trading you can do anyway, so ~0.4 is a good amount.
I've been buying out the weekly catalysts since the 2nd week. Should still be able to with more Stock Bills available
ive rigged up my copium ore
tomorrow someoen will probably have a yt video on the good ratios to use
yea the lava equipment is kinda significant
can someone take a look and help??
ill build stuff myself but i cba to figure out good resource efficieny usage
I spent time minmaxing to nesr-perfect
And realize i didnt plug in my batteries
What a life
Yeah fk it, 8 hours of no factory wont kill
I still have enough bills to trade for the next 4 days
Even if im maxxed rn it wont change a damn thing for the next 4 days
ive upgraded everything possible with stock bills like depot and stuff
My bills would still be full
im just gonna do gifts and stuff now and then play other game
I spent like 3-4 hours working on my factory today lol, trying to fit everything in the Main PAC only to find out you can't cause of facility limit.
U def can
I have everything in main
Min or max either way your wuling stock exchange can still be fully dried with the inventory since 1.0
Take ur time
the bridges/splitters count as a separate facility
so use one long belt or pipe for it to count as one
Yeah, but if I got rid of any of my splitters, it wouldn't fit neatly as it does now
Also my pumps would be at half efficiency
One fluid pump could feed two liquid refineries, rightT?
If I got it right. You need 3 crucibles to make one single of the new batteries? Unless I got my production line wrong
you need 5
Yeah thats right
3 is minimum
What in the fk
Yeah i did 3
can you elaborate a little more on the 5
can you not just drag in sewage from your coprium ore processing?
the liquid, you need 2 of it
there's a lot of liquids
so that adds 2 more crucibles
Yeah you can "self-pump" it after you set things up
2 for liquid xiranite 2 for whatever the brighter green juice is 1 for xircon
Not being able to flip orientation hurts
The factory wont change anything for the next 4 days of inventory exchange stocks
Erase your factory and do it all over again

Ok this helps visually
My outpost has nothing in it
Do you want audibly
What a noshow that is
Oh wait sorry yeah, 5 per line for max efficiency.







