aic-factory

[jovial breach]

idk the name but it's red

[fervent stratus]

We have the name at Science Park. It's a red ore

[jovial breach]

im trying to find it again

[soft river]

It's in the dev log aswell, it's coming with the new update afaik

[fervent stratus]

I am VERY skeptical about the sidegrade part (What do you mean we just get a sidegrade out of a new component and the new Red grade)

Red might be a rarity thing like Yellow for Wuling because it is used as such in other games with multiple tiers of rarity

[jovial breach]

@golden burrow there are a bunch lol idk which one

[fervent stratus]

3rd is just Xiranite.... ish

[jovial breach]

no

this is the current xiranite

[golden burrow]

huh

alright i'm listening

[fervent stratus]

Dense Xiranite?

[jovial breach]

no way they just change color for fun

[golden burrow]

first two is probably just gatherables

[fervent stratus]

It look like what it is to Xiranite like Steel for Ferrium

[golden burrow]

3rd pic is interesting tho

upgraded xiranite hmm

[jovial breach]

it's uh... more green

[golden burrow]

actually could be just xiranite + refiner

[somber snow]

you make the new gear component with the new ore, cuprium
its probably not the next tier, just focuses on different stats,
more variety

[fervent stratus]

More dense

So far new component meant next tier so....

[jovial breach]

ye we have dense originium right

could be the same logic

[fervent stratus]

Dense Originium, Steel, Cryston, Refined Carbon.... Grinder stuffs

[somber snow]

then we'll have to see

but making the gold tier obsolete doesnt make sense

[fervent stratus]

Because better tier is long overdue when the level cap is 90

[real crescent]

Devs agree

[golden burrow]

this is actually exactly why i haven't done any artificing

[fervent stratus]

We are having level 60 - 90 using level 70 gears right now

[jovial breach]

hg isnt that dumb, they wont make artifice bottles useless

[somber snow]

could be that we can upgrade the gears we have now to lvl80 or 90

becuz if that isnt the case, they shouldnt have introduced artificing this early

[fervent stratus]

You know..... Artifice doesn't have to be restricted to Xiranite gears, right?

[golden burrow]

text says it's for all wuling gears

[fervent stratus]

It can be Wuling+

[golden burrow]

the catalyst description i mean

[real crescent]

ye i would assume its for all gear going forward

[severe belfry]

that's exactly what i've been saying

[severe belfry]

lvl 90 gears are most likely just upgraded from max artificed lvl 70s

[fervent stratus]

Restricting it to Wuling would be kinda silly as well when we get new region and the gear tier of that region

[severe belfry]

doesn't make much sense to introduce a whole new tier while making the old one obsolete

[somber snow]

new regions will probably have their own versions of artifices

[golden burrow]

> piece of wuling gear

[fervent stratus]

Red gears are still under Wuling

[somber snow]

If HG did decide to make a better tier than gold next update,
a lot of players wont be happy,
HG knows what theyre doing, they got this planned

[half heron]

upgraded gears 1.1 patch is obnoxious

[fervent stratus]

You know..... players won't have the resources to rush the new gear artificing, right?

[somber snow]

and from a gaming sense,
if red is better, who would bother artifice gold,
skip gold straight up, and just go to red,
so the game function to artifice gold is useless

[jovial breach]

Devs listened, glory to hg

[fervent stratus]

Well we'll see but

[real crescent]

i mean they very clearly state that its not intended to be an upgrade over what we have

[fervent stratus]

Wuling is our first actual introduction to Gear Sets

[fervent stratus]

Bonus stats over current top gears

And more options so it can also mean an upgrade + more variety

If they want a side-grade, don't make a new tier with new component

[somber snow]

didnt seem like they said it was gonna be a new tier from the devlog

[golden burrow]

While these new gear pieces offer stat bonuses comparable to top-quality gear currently available these brand-new gears will provide more options for equipping operators for combat.

this is the quote

[severe belfry]

this one is not gonna be new tier

[golden burrow]

sounds like a sidegrade tbh

[severe belfry]

but we will most likely get it eventually

[fervent stratus]

Hmmm

[somber snow]

if they make a new tier thats better,
then purple tier and below, they should have options to be artificed too

[fervent stratus]

comparable.... fair point

[real crescent]

i mean its pretty clear what they mean

[fervent stratus]

Not much point in improving purple

[somber snow]

so u do agree

[jovial breach]

I wonder if i should save artifice catalyst for next patch

[real crescent]

oh great discord embedded it in a way that makes it unreadable

[golden burrow]

i got you fam

[fervent stratus]

Yellow is the first one where we actually have proper gear sets instead of generic ones

Why bother going back to purple?

[somber snow]

if they make better tier,
the same logic applies to gold

they would not have implemented the artificing function to gold,
if it was going to be completely useless afterwards

[fervent stratus]

They can also add the upgrade + more options to yellow

[somber snow]

not a good game design

[golden burrow]

i'd say if you already cleared all current content ie. agony, don't bother artificing more and just wait and see

we can argue all we want but the truth is that we don't know how the new gear will work

[fervent stratus]

Because we do need more options =_=^

[golden burrow]

other than it will use new comps

[real crescent]

yes. you dont loose anything artificing a week later, but maybe they add sth that is slightly better for whatever characer you are playing

[somber snow]

imo, id say its works the same as genshin and wuwa,
same tier, different set bonuses, same stats

[fervent stratus]

That being said.... maybe it's level 75 gear so just a bit better stats

[jovial breach]

[somber snow]

for a character like laeva, her set's already good enough, dont need to change,
but maybe the new gear provides a different playstyle

[mortal glen]

Can someone please help me with this? I only just started wuling AIC and struggling a little

[fervent stratus]

Ain't no way they would add a new tier without a single increase in stats

[somber snow]

what r u trying to do

[mortal glen]

yazhen syringe (C)

[fervent stratus]

You know..... you can loop those, right?

[mortal glen]

😶 noo..

[fervent stratus]

Planter + Seed Picker loop

[somber snow]

see if u can make sense of it

wait wrong reply

[fervent stratus]

Bottom left corner is the loop V

[fervent stratus]

Seed-picker into Planter, Planter split into Seed-picker and another conveyor

[mortal glen]

obvs terrible optimised but do you mean like the line i added at the top?

[somber snow]

yes

[fervent stratus]

Yes but you don't need the input into seed-picker from depot once it is running properly

[mortal glen]

ahhh okay perfect thankyouuu

[fervent stratus]

..... which means you don't know the loop for Valley IV as well?

[mortal glen]

im guessing you would be correct

[fervent stratus]

Picker into 2 Planter (1 Planter go into another conveyor)

[somber snow]

i have a sandleaf farm in the picture too, u just follow that

if u want a bigger 1

this would work

[fervent stratus]

Top right is the Valley IV one

It's a self-sufficient loop for both (Wuling one just need water) so both doesn't need any input after you start it up.

[somber snow]

heres a picture of the whole base for reference,
thisll make it ezr for you to imagine what ud want for ur factory

[fervent stratus]

Just make sure there is enough seed + plant in them tho lol

[mortal glen]

that looks... chaotic 😭

[somber snow]

if u dont know whats going on, it does

i could explain it

[fervent stratus]

I make my healing items at the sub-PAC

[mortal glen]

its my first factory style game, so im slowly picking it up and learning

[real crescent]

tbh i understand whats going on and thats still chaotic

[fervent stratus]

Bottom Left: Sandleaf + Yazhen Syringe
Top Left: Xiranite
Top Right: Xiranite Component + Wuling Battery
Bottom Right: Just a sign showing how much he/she love Chen

[real crescent]

id recommend if you arent already havent done so playing all the factory tutorials, especially as you unlock new machines

they teach you the basic setups for each machine and what you can use it for

[golden burrow]

don't rush

play at your own pace

[fervent stratus]

I made much more cluster-f in other games LOL

[somber snow]

alright, the basics u need to know,

for each unit, they have a certain amount of materials that they need,
for example,
in a packaging unit to make sc batterys, u need 15 ori powder and 10 ferrium parts over 10 seconds,
items move at a pace of 0.5/second on the belt,

so this means, if u do the math,
u need 3 belts of ori, and 2 belts of ferrium parts

a lot of ppl make this mistake, so its good to know how much item ur unit actually needs to make it efficient 100%

[somber snow]

rly?

[fervent stratus]

In any factory style games I played, new logistic options (conveyors) is the biggest quality of life improvement

The rest usually come after as you get more stuffs

[real crescent]

ye like for example these belts being like that

[somber snow]

oh yeah thats fair

[fervent stratus]

I can explain them down to what goes where honestly but

I have work and it's very late LOL

[somber snow]

my class starts at 12, so i can stay up late

[fervent stratus]

Those bridges are to make the conveyor more neat and take less space usually

[somber snow]

i think its less about the bridges, and more about why i have a long belt like that

[fervent stratus]

Easier to see the flow if anything goes wrong

Heavily optimized and compact stuffs would be a nightmare to fix if anything goes wrong and you don't see clear item path

[real crescent]

well in this case its not to reduce space, otherwise theyd send the belts into the first input of the machine instead of dragging it along its entire length

[fervent stratus]

It is still to reduce space. Otherwise, they just go with normal conveyor with minimal amount of bridges.

Bridges help reduce detours

[somber snow]

my goal was to use all the depot bus spaces for unloaders and loaders,
i dont want to use proto stashes if i could

thats why the facilities look the way it is

my power consump. is 1.77k becuz of it

[fervent stratus]

Unless I don't need more unloaders, I always use only unloaders

The only time I use loader is because of no space to move around

[somber snow]

also, why i have a random crucible down there,
thats for making bumper-rich

[real crescent]

i generally only use unloaders and stashes

[fervent stratus]

Umm.... you would need to move the forge =_=^

[fervent stratus]

Same deal here

[real crescent]

tho i also have everything in a production line, so the energy cost of one extra stash per line is basically a rounding error

[somber snow]

yeah, its not that much of a hassle,
i just delete the forge, put it there, turn the pump and crucible on,
once im done, i delete and replace, then turn the pumps and crucible off

[fervent stratus]

In my base.... it's just a selector toggle

[somber snow]

im too lazy to make that

[fervent stratus]

Got enough space for it

[somber snow]

maybe after i decide to destroy my entire wuling base, ill make it

itll be the 2nd time

is making HC batteries at 2/min along with wuling bats in wuling a decent idea

[real crescent]

i dont see why youd do that ngl

you cant sell them in wuling, and you can already produce enough in v4 to cover v4

[serene mist]

Damn, didnt know it would be possible to clog it up in wuling

[somber snow]

cool, im not insane then

someone here actually does that

[somber snow]

that shouldnt be possible

u need 120/min,
the best we're allowed to do is 115/min with meta

[serene mist]

Oh damn i can boost up the jincao production?

[real crescent]

they only use 90/min so yeah

[somber snow]

its probably another belt thats lacking,
which is causing ur ferrium to clog

[serene mist]

Good to know

[somber snow]

oh yeah, thats only 90/min

yeah, its just unoptimised in this case

[serene mist]

W8 im gonna send how my jincao was running until now

[real crescent]

probably producing bottles using only one ferrium belt would be my guess

[somber snow]

4 ferrium outputs,
2 for parts, 2 for 1 line of bottle,
split that, and that should make both jincao and yazhen 3/min each

while having the ferrium usage at 120/min

im not going to like the power usage tho

[serene mist]

Ready to have your eyes bleed?

[somber snow]

yes

[somber snow]

go fuck yourself

[serene mist]

Zero regrets

[somber snow]

u only need 1 picker and 1 planter for both ur jincao and yazhen

so u can decrease the space and power usage there

[real crescent]

called it

[somber snow]

u cant only use 1 unloader of ferrium,
u need 2

2 unloaders each for ur jincao and yazhen

[real crescent]

wait no i didnt call it this is even worse

[somber snow]

if u can,
2 unloaders for ferrium,
make 1 line of bottles,
then split the belt from the moulding unit going into the packaging units for jincao and yazhen

that way, less space and energy wasted

oh yeah, about making HC bats in wuling

its this guy

[real crescent]

hmmmmmm

i wonder if thats actual production

[somber snow]

it is,
showed his factory too

[real crescent]

i think they brought over a shitload manually and are using them for pwm

huh

[lone pebble]

nope :))

pwm, yes , but with HC ! 4.5k a day from v4 ! 1 week around 35~ (depos cap ! )

[real crescent]

ok so i was nearly correct, just wrong on the manual part

[serene mist]

Fixed it i guess?

[real crescent]

better but not yet fully fixed. check what your moulding unit is doing in the screenshot

[serene mist]

I hope ferrium goes to 120/120

Cuz now it eats 120 and produces 90

[lone pebble]

oo and 1/min making in W ! so it`s 1/2 usage 🙂

[real crescent]

so you do actually produce in wuling? interesting

[serene mist]

Its full

[lone pebble]

y

[serene mist]

I let it fill up while i was building it :b

[real crescent]

its not working the entire time cos its not getting enough material

which in return means everything down the line from it is working at half the speed it could

[somber snow]

since u're producing yazhen syringes too,
u need to split that bottle production over to yazhen

[serene mist]

Probably but if i go overboard with ferrium usage im gonna run out of power

[serene mist]

That would require rebuilding my entire yahzen factory which is in a different region

[real crescent]

are you running a pwm? or just normal banks

[somber snow]

wtf

at this point, i think its better to just make 1 of them

making both isnt worth it

its just eating more energy

[real crescent]

i mean tbf if you want to produce both yazhen syringes and jincao drinks having both production lines and running each at half efficiency works

[serene mist]

If i send you the pipeline i have laid out everywhere in my world you're probably gonna have a heart attack

[real crescent]

but ye, extra energy bill over just having one line at full efficiency

[lone pebble]

heres the print EFO0189305i98e1A6UI73 1/min

[real crescent]

oh, im mainly surprised you decided to produce HC there, taking up ressources that could be used for wuling stuff instead of just ferrying excess batteries from v4 over every day

tho then again, i dont know how many HC you actually consume

[somber snow]

2/min

[lone pebble]

2/min ish/ sence bills were allways on 0, and staking the rest ! couse i was making parts 1/min also ! but i now switch to full bat & just importing , i cap till update !

[real crescent]

i need to redo my hc line at some point. holy fuck, why do i have enough space to fit a football field in here?

[lone pebble]

need 1 self sustained ? with free space in s-pac`s? :))

or just simple :))

[real crescent]

nah, i technically dont need anything, my v4 is done by now

just gotta update it for the pure fun of compacting a line itself

[jovial breach]

those belts sure need some adjustment

[lone pebble]

gn all

[real crescent]

ye that was the first "compact" production line i did. i think just glancing over it i can probably cut it down by like 3 rows at least

[wintry stump]

where to find facility limit?

[sick basin]

512 for main
326 for sub
Or sum like that, forgot exact number

It pops up once u reach that limit

[wintry stump]

for power savings on a 2x yazhen line, would it be better to import bottles, or?

[sick basin]

To save power yes

[wintry stump]

is there an avg hour production hit?

[somber snow]

If u wanna save more power, its better to import ferrium parts

[sick basin]

Yes as bottles is 750 per hour
Meaning only 12.5/min

[somber snow]

U save 25 energy,
While with bottles , u just save 5

[wintry stump]

oh shit

[somber snow]

For a rly optimised factory, it doesnt matter though

[real crescent]

tbh

neither 25 energy nor 5 energy are savings that are particularly worth caring about

[wintry stump]

is it really 5 energy

like

a fitting unit costs 20 power

a refining unit costs 5

a molding unit costs 10

[sick basin]

Bottles need 2 limnes

[wintry stump]

eliminating molding units saves 40 power on a 2x line

eliminating parts saves 100 power on a 2x line

do belt lines count towards the fac limit?

[somber snow]

someone said it did

also no, a moulding unit requires 2 lines of ferrium,
even if u import bottles instead, thats still only 12.5/min,
while a fully efficient moulding unit produces 30/min, so 15/min at 50% eff.

if u import bottles, u can remove 1 line of ferrium feeding the moulding unit,
so you only remove 1 refining unit

which saves 5

with ferrium parts,
u can remove 1 refining unit, and 1 fitting unit,
5 and 20 energy

so that makes 25

[digital dew]

Don’t know what the heck I’m doing in wuling I keep running out of power bruh 😭😭

[spring yew]

Hello
How much each port supposed to use per minute?
I'm literally only running 2 xiranite battery factories rn, gears full but i still cut the depot ports regardless
And it's still yild 60/min use 120/m

[spring yew]

I'd recommend starting with blue batteries until you make enough xiranite to switch to Wuling batteries
Or you can import some purple batteries from valley to help you start off (if you already make those there)

[digital dew]

I have no clue how to make purple batteries so I’ll start with blue thank you!!

[spring yew]

Oh and put electric rig on every ore you find in wuling
Electric 2 only consumes more power so only use it for ferrium

[spring yew]

Blue it is for now then
If you need blueprints for purple batteries and bucks A for valley, i got you

[digital dew]

Please for purple batteries 🥹

I’m Na server

[spring yew]

(oh it's both actually 🌚)

[digital dew]

Okok gimme

[lusty violet]

If a facility is powered, it affects theoretical stats even when not running/clogged

[spring yew]

Oh i marked all gear factories and turned them off too to save power
Still 120/min

Gears are maxed and clogged, I'm just waiting for new gear to decide what to upgrade and stuff

[spring yew]

Roger roger
I'll do my best to explain too if you got any questions

[lusty violet]

Hmm off but still in range of a pylon?

[spring yew]

Oh yeah they are, should i remove that while they not needed?

[wintry stump]

why would you remove only 1 refining unit

you're replacing 1 moulding unit line which is 20 power and 2 ferrium lines

[somber snow]

thats not how it works

if u r making both yazhen syringes and jincao drinks,
that still only uses 1 moulding unit

1 moulding unit needs 2 belts of ferrium to be fully efficient,
and 1 belt from a moulding unit is 30 bottles per minute if its fully efficient

[acoustic sun]

So guys my power banks are always full and there is one waiting in the belt always, which means i miss 51 batteries per bank that i can sell, how can i slow the feeding to the bank that i only send the batteries that i need to power my base?

[wintry stump]

use pwm, this calculator can help
https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en&p=UhWxeTG

[somber snow]

if u import bottles, which is 750/hour or 12.5/minute,
u can remove 1 line of ferrium feeding into the moulding unit

but u still need the moulding unit

u just remove 1 refiner making ferrium that is fed into the moulding unit

[wintry stump]

OH

🤦

[lusty violet]

Oh no don't have to remove. Just curious what is included in theoretical. I've never tried switching off a machine and seeing if it still counts

[spring yew]

Ohh fair enough
Yeah they're all turned off but they've been jammed since yesterday so idk if they counted for theoretical

[spring yew]

Or you can simply go to the spaceship and keep swapping back and forth between the 2 depots from the ship
Filling your inventory up with bottles or whatever you wanna move, then switch back to destination depot
And repeat up to 48k

[spring yew]

Personally i have 2 Wuling battery factories, each with 2 lines to storage and 1 to bank
It doesn't slow it that much but ig if you add more lines it slows it even more

[somber snow]

if u dont care about ur v4 profits, go ahead

idk why u wud want to do manual labour

when the wuling outpost cant even keep up anyways

[wintry stump]

it fills in that 5/min ferrium deficit lmao

granted if you're using metastorage and pwm you'll probably reach cap anyway

[somber snow]

u do not need pwm

at all

pwm is for fun, minmax optimisation, but unnecessary

[wintry stump]

idk man what if you miss some days
nvm because if you miss days, you have a supply-side surplus 🤦

[spring yew]

Could be you're in a tight situation
I had high consumption of ferrium parts and bottles so i used to move them manually
Until i had max gears so i finally switched to making those in wuling instead

And both valley and Wuling sub base are max level. Money ain't a problem in either

[somber snow]

have you bought out all ur sanity tickets yet

[spring yew]

Depends on what you're making
Personally i wasn't using bottles or parts in valley so they were just there 80k all the time

[spring yew]

Not yet XD
Was saving for the souvenir items

But fair fair good point
I'll buy those instead

[somber snow]

right, so you're way behind

[wintry stump]

i now have an extreme yazhen and battery surplus lmfao

🥀

[spring yew]

Well not WAY behind
Just a tiny bit

[somber snow]

so anyway,
manually transfering stuff from v4 to wuling is unnecessary and doesnt benefit much

only thing that does, are hc batteries

that way, u dont use ur wuling bats, u get to sell more

doesnt matter if u hit cap,
buid unpowered protocol stashes, or transfer from wuling to v4

or just simply sell more batteries

[spring yew]

At extreme conditions i mean 😔
Not as a main thing to do daily

[somber snow]

there r no extreme conditions for this

only emergency is when ur factory dies

but then u can just import batteries

[spring yew]

Ferium is so rare

[somber snow]

so what, ur main source of income is wuling bats

it does not matter much if ur med productions slightly fluctuate

[spring yew]

Fair enough

That's my main issue tho
I literally only have 2 Wuling battery factories using xiranite but yet the consumption of that is 120

Eaxh factory have one line obviously

[somber snow]

if the only facilities using xiranite are ur packaging units, but ur consumption is 120/min,
there's something wrong

[wintry stump]

syringes/drinks takes 1 moulding unit each

[somber snow]

not with the amount of ferrium we have

[spring yew]

Yeah i figured ☹️

I mean here's some screenshots of my factories
The gears is maxed, clogged and shut down

[marble yarrow]

3.4k power in wuling 💀

[somber snow]

my eyes are fucking bleeding

[marble yarrow]

also RIP setup

[spring yew]

Lmaoo what's happening

[somber snow]

there are a lot of problems with this

first off

[wintry stump]

i wish you would've said this earlier

[somber snow]

urfarms

[spring yew]

I only need some yazhan so i just put whatever there

[marble yarrow]

you dont need extra planters

[somber snow]

too many problems

im jsut gonna send my picture

[marble yarrow]

its just this

[somber snow]

compare urs with this, and see what the problem is

[spring yew]

How to take such a screenshot

[somber snow]

i take multiple screenshots, and stitch them together

[marble yarrow]

nice

[spring yew]

Mine is uglier true. But it has the same stuff

Minus the I love chen

[wintry stump]

i think his point is that your has more stuff

[somber snow]

no it doesnt

[wintry stump]

there's redundant facilities that consume extra power

they technically do the same thing but... with more, hence your extreme power costs

[somber snow]

u're using way too many protocol stashes, wasting power

i use none

and r u using v4 plants in wuling?

buckflower

[spring yew]

How so? It's just a few extra planters

[somber snow]

r u using buckflower in wuling

[spring yew]

It's needed to make xiranite

[somber snow]

1 yazhen makes 2 carbon

[wintry stump]

ngl i haven't been following, i was trying to sort out the factory dmg i got from their advice

[somber snow]

u need 2 buck to make 2

this is your problem, u're using v4 plants

2 planters and 2 pickers are enough to supply both my forges

becuz im using wuling plants

thats only 4 facilities

u're using 12

[spring yew]

Fair enough 😔

[spring yew]

I was gonna ask for blueprints but apparently you're Asia server
Can I copy that?

[somber snow]

yeah, go ahead

[spring yew]

What about side base btw?

[somber snow]

my outpost is empty

everything is in my main AIC in wuling

[spring yew]

Roger roger
I'll do that then

[somber snow]

if u're not focused on farming in wuling,
ignore the crucible at the bottom

[marble yarrow]

1.1-ready

stockade stocking lmaooo

[somber snow]

[stone apex]

Does anyone know why I dont get the bonus when trading, even when I already assigned an operator with the bonus to the station? This only happens for the Science Park station, not my other ones

[marble yarrow]

wrong passive

there's a "when trading" but prosperity instead

looks like chen

no bill bonus when trading

[somber snow]

u need to use xaihi or ember for the bonus

[brisk slate]

is there list of all trade valuer?

[somber snow]

ingame, or like a spread sheet?

[viral wharf]

There's 3 different Outpost buff categories:

• Faction:

Increases Prosperity gained when trading with this Outpost.

• Hobbies:

Increases the Stock Bills you earn from Trading with this Outpost.

• Expertise:

Increases the Stock Bills this Outpost generates overtime.

[brisk slate]

spreadsheet?

[brisk slate]

is it in game? bcs like making battery neeed 3 load , while load is limited

[somber snow]

in the game, ud have to go to the outpost and see how much the items can be traded for

outside the game, well
its that 1

[brisk slate]

yea i mean is it oso rating for load uses ?

[somber snow]

wdym load uses

[prime pendant]

hey there sir, could you share the blueprint code for this?

[brisk slate]

depot unloader

[somber snow]

hes in asia

[prime pendant]

oh Asia
does anyone have a good EU Wuling base code?

[prime pendant]

sometimes i wish i picked that ngl

[somber snow]

ill just share my base layout,
for reference

the other 2 outposts are like this

[somber snow]

it is what it is

copy this if ud like

[viral wharf]

More details on this one:

[somber snow]

as u can see, theres enough space, even if u use 3 depot unloaders for making batteries

[brisk slate]

ahh okk

[prime pendant]

oh this one looks really good
could i bother you asking which of those depots are loaders and which are unloaders?
the top left corner most of them are hard to tell

[somber snow]

hold on

that should make it ezr

for the 2 forges, only the 1 with the yazhen icon is an unloader

the other 2 are loaders

well u dont see the other yazhen icon at the bottom, but thats becuz its blocked

there are 2 sandleaf unloaders near the corner

and the other 4 are laoders

[prime pendant]

oh my this looks really good
i'll make blueprints when im done for EU

[cedar phoenix]

without manual transfer, max rate for Syringes is 5.75 (or drink), because of the metastorage being only 25/min (instead of 30/min like a belt is)

maybe it's not really "max rate" tho.. and more like "1 full line prod rate"

[worldly hound]

Someone wanna give me a starter wuling base so I can get stocks? Please :User Ag0riX#3607 UID6178972717

[viral wharf]

Yeah that was just the smallest name I could think of for a single production line.

[cedar phoenix]

Yeah i see, that make sense

[sterile aspen]

what

i can just place outta bounds?

hmmmmmmmmmm

[lament turtle]

You can’t put any belts to them, so they won’t automate.

[sterile aspen]

...see i should've tested that instead of just getting giddy

oh well

[lament turtle]

If a facility has even one tile out of bounds, the whole thing is isolated and non-xiranite pylons won’t connect automatically.

[sterile aspen]

...whats a xiranite pylon?

[lament turtle]

Wireless powerlines that only work in Wuling.

[sterile aspen]

oh neat, thanks

i have yet to go there

[fading night]

The Wuling equivalent to the electric pylon, but you need Xiranite to make them

[sterile aspen]

i am having too much fun in valley IV so far

am lv 49

[peak anvil]

halo,so I've completed all story quest

do i start to min max factory?

[scenic comet]

does that include unlocking outposts? then yes start producing what they want to buy

[peak anvil]

I've unlocked 3 outpost on Alley IV. and uhh idk about wuling because i i haven't done any side quest

[scenic comet]

there's only 1 outpost in wuling at the moment so that should be quick to unlock, just check the good each outpost wants, as you level them up they'll want higher-grade goods which have more complex blueprints

[pulsar cypress]

Before/while minmax factory, explore every corner and make sure every mining node have rig..

[spiral frost]

how do I make jincao solution?

what facility?

[peak anvil]

ohhh so exploration before factors ok ok

[earnest steeple]

crucible

[pulsar cypress]

Building factory can start, but u need all the node resources mined to minmax the production..
Or u will have ore deficiency..

[peak anvil]

aaa

is the best time to start factory is when you basically finished everything?

[pulsar cypress]

Yess you can start.. Just build bit by bid..

[earnest steeple]

you should build with what you have, and then add more lines as you get more resources

[pulsar cypress]

While checking the map for left behind mining node..
Some spot iirc behind quest, like wolf guy quest..

[peak anvil]

ohh okay

[spiral frost]

How do I make it into the little bottles that i can sell to outposts?

[prime pendant]

what's this contraption if i may ask?

[lusty violet]

belt splitter

oh, like the set

[somber snow]

Ive split the xiranite

1/4 towards the conponents

The rest for batteries

Components at full efficiency make 6/min, but i dont need that much, since weekly artificing is only 60, so 6k components

1/min for components is enough to cover that

[prime pendant]

that's what i was trying to ask, how to make it 1/4 not 1/2

[somber snow]

Oh

Well, there u go

2 splitters, 2 paths on each

[prime pendant]

ohh and both splitters converge below making it 3 down, one up. correct?

[somber snow]

Yes

1/4 for components,
3/4 for batteries

If i wanted to be more accurate,
I wouldve made 1/6 go towards components, but this is still enough to trade out all the stockbills

[prime pendant]

that's a smart plan. i have finished copying the layout and i prepared EU codes for if you feel like sharing them in the future

facing East

Top Left EFO01u1I6652A10a3AoOU

Top Right EFO01o08aaE5e0630IieO

Bottom Left EFO019A6UUI32AeAi5uI2

[somber snow]

Have u tested if the factory works or not

Just in case u mightve missed something

[prime pendant]

yes i removed everything and used the blueprints to make sure. it all lines up perfectly without overlapping

once all plants are placed in Planting facilities, it all works just fine

[hidden temple]

you can add another nother splitter to make it 1/8 for components
that'll give you 11.25/min batts and 0.375/min comps, which is 540 components a day or 3780 a week

we can only use 3k components a week given the limited 60 weekly catalysts available

[waxen aurora]

whats the maximum ori yield in v4

[hidden temple]

560

[prime pendant]

I'm not in a hurry for the components so this is very helpful. Thank you very much.

[hidden temple]

just do note that the cheap one-time-purchase catalysts use up 10k components, so it also doesn't hurt stockpiling to account for that

[prime pendant]

I will make sure components setup keeps running even if at low production

[inland lodge]

does the length of the belt affect the production line cyle?

especially in something that continue get consumed like battery

[vestal tiger]

Depends

[small creek]

i think it just takes longer to startup

[sick whale]

anyone got the stats for factory valley 4? i want to know how much i need to make

[small creek]

after that its the same as having a short belt

[small creek]

#aic-factory message

you can ignore LC batt if u want

[sick whale]

no im talking about the parts, i know purple stuff is 18 18

[small creek]

"Stats" is as vague as u can get tbh

[sick whale]

like how many steel parts
how many ori parts

[sick whale]

ok, then i want the numbers for valley 4
on the parts to make purples

[small creek]

why not just track the ore

individually tracking all the powder parts and dense cubes is just more work

[waxen aurora]

i think i am stable rn

[small creek]

whats happening to your amethyst

[waxen aurora]

used to make meds

not investing in batteries

[small creek]

well whatever, have fun trying to track all of this

[small creek]

oh nvm youre theoretical's good, should just take some time to wind up

[waxen aurora]

the factory wont die

[sick whale]

How many packing unit do i need for valley 4 battery? 3 or 4?

[small creek]

1 per 6/min product

[sick whale]

ow so 3

im a dumbass then

shit

[inland lodge]

i kinda want to try protocol and the split feature that kinda decrease/increase the belt time so i just want to make sure if its impact the time

🤔 i believe there should be delay in between right?

let say if we put multiple splitter or converge or multiple protocol stash

[sick basin]

I'll track
Your location that is

[marble yarrow]

belt length only delays the first instance. time between cycles isnt affected by belt length, since all instances will have to travel with the same belt

[jovial breach]

Is it normal that my dijang ops desync

I never had this issue until recently

[earnest steeple]

Yes, if you aren't manually switching operators and resting them, they will eventually desync unless all of your nexus operators have no skills in mood restoration or if you put all the nexus operators in at the same time, because each operator may have different resting times, which will contribute to their desyncing. Also, it's more likely to happen if you stagger your operators in order to keep your factory/reception room working all the time.

There is also a bug that if you visit other friends that the timers on your operators may appear wrong on the screen. Reloging usually fixes that.

[raw river]

Hi there, i'm back in game since today, i'm level 58 but i'm looking for a youtuber or a topic with the most optimal current base with blueprint.
If somebody can be kind and share some info i'm taking it !

[lone pebble]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466043358509273349

[raw river]

Thanks buddy !

[manic portal]

#1464202880410980472 message for valley IV and #1469541236040925307 message for wuling

[merry wagon]

are we getting the update next Thursday

[sick basin]

Should be 12th yes

[small creek]

v4
main pac: https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966
sub pac (x1 only): #1468746019788554423 message

wuling: i dont have

[hot pawn]

anyone got blueprints for a nice steel part factory

[viscid plover]

for asia

[hot pawn]

slight issue

not on asia

[viscid plover]

ops

wait for someone in eu i guess
or search in #1461542035617091681 #1465229737642164386

[toxic solar]

Do i need Only sandleaf powder for dense carbon?

or does it work with others

[hot pawn]

sandleaf is needed for all grinder stuff

pretty sure

[toxic solar]

bruh, its not possible to automate sandleaf in wuling, what do i do

[hot pawn]

isn't there a whole feature of transferring materials from each region to each other

yeah at level 8 development, regional transfer

[toxic solar]

takes too long tho

[hot pawn]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[toxic solar]

manual transfer it is, regional transfer is wayy too slow

[sick basin]

?

Why couldnt it

Ofc it is

[small creek]

i think bro didnt turn off the water mode

[crude nebula]

I think the forgot the water mode disabler

[sick basin]

I think bro is schizo

[crude nebula]

And he prepeared to stay online 24/7 to transfer item to wuling

[sick basin]

Plus
Theres literaly sandleaf in wuling

[small creek]

it takes 5 minutes to transfer 48k ferrite via dijiang

[hot pawn]

me when i forget planters exist

[small creek]

and thatll last you for a week

HC batts are also an option but i havent bothered

[crude nebula]

But you're adding a new task for your weekly

[small creek]

my guy its 5 minutes

i can save that much time by not brushing my teeth for a day but like why tf would i do that

its just 5 minutes

[sick basin]

Fym u brush your teeth for 5 minutes

[hot pawn]

it takes like 3

[small creek]

5 minutes for 3x time a day silly

[sick basin]

[crude nebula]

No, i wont do another task weekly if it isnt necessary for irl

[small creek]

shut up or i will brush your teeth with my-

[sick basin]

Mods!

Hes being inappropriate towards me!!

[small creek]

with my factory-produced toothbrush?

we're in aic-factory bro what are u thinking

[rugged stone]

@agile marlin think the shared facility feedback thread got closed. Went to post a pic in there but it's read only now

[toxic solar]

whats with this teeth brushing business 💀

[sick basin]

Whats with you saying you cant automate sandleaf

[toxic solar]

nah that was me being a dumbass

[pulsar cypress]

Old desolate tribe use plants to brush teeth..
Factory produce many plants..
*nod.. nod..

[toxic solar]

i forgot u can turn off the water

[craggy whale]

Wth is this chat yappin about

Tootbruh factory

[toxic solar]

yes

[analog elbow]

@craggy whale do you have these clues?

4 & 6

[green moon]

💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[true furnace]

Reminds me of a scene in Astartes 2

[azure sparrow]

hey, whats the current highest yield/min i could get with syringes and lc batts currently on wuling? with rdl lv6

[silent violet]

boom 39x34 120 xira/min design

[earnest steeple]

5.75 syringe, 12 battery

[analog elbow]

Holy Jesus

What is that

What the fk is that?!?!

[craggy whale]

u havent even added me

[green moon]

we need to make @cinder sun work 24/7 to transfer val4 ferrites to wuling

[earnest steeple]

Tell her to improve the AIC. She spent 10 yrs already on it. Although she did figure out how to create ferrium out of thin air.

But really, get Soup2 to have her outpost generate more bills.

[small creek]

maybe u can move this to the right to remove those bridges?

[silent violet]

u can its pretty raw rn im trying to figure out how to get the pipe inputs only from 2 adjacent sides

theres some wiggling around that can happen for sure

[small creek]

yea ill leave u to it 🫡

good work tho, looking forward to the final design

[craggy whale]

mb @analog elbow i dont have extra

[scenic hawk]

You can try this blueprint bro(check pins)
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469541236040925307

[sick basin]

I dont see FotS

[silent violet]

we dont have 4 fots yet brochacho

[sick basin]

Also am i dumb in not understanding why are we making lkke, 120 in one when we can just copy-paste the thing we have rn for 60

[silent violet]

why make 1 6/min hc battery when you can have 4 1.5s

[small creek]

120 in 1 has potential to be smaller than 2 60 in 1

[sick basin]

Cuz like
I have like 21x23 60/min

Why not just place 1 more

Maybe im dumb, babe

🥹

[small creek]

wait how tf do u have 21x23 60/min

[silent violet]

probably doesnt include planters

[small creek]

thats so small

yea same thoughts

[sick basin]

Wait imma check

I just lowkey threw the numbee out

[small creek]

babe ur so slop 🥹

[sick whale]

do yall use all the ferrium in valley 4?

[small creek]

most of the time yes, but once a week i tune my usage down to 1050 to stock up on ferrite to manually transfer to wuling

[sick basin]

Nvm its 31x23

[small creek]

sounds about right

31x23x2 = 1426
39x34 = 1326

its a whole 100 tiles smaller

[silent violet]

the smallest 60 is 29x24 tho

so 66 tiles smaller for the 120

[small creek]

still smaller yea

thats like 2 planters worth of space

crazy

[sick basin]

Maybe i should redo

🥹

Or one of you pookies can give

[small creek]

if you give up, theres some banger blueprints floating around here 🤫

[green moon]

end(er)min

[small creek]

Take ur pick
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465737008017313862
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467519294836314153

i use the first one, but the second is smaller *with some caveats

[sick basin]

Bruh wtf

The 1st one is the exact one i have but few things moved to make it smaller

[small creek]

tericinema

i hate fots i hate fots i hate fots

no one will ever convince me to make xiranite blueprints

[silent violet]

its pretty aids

having to manually make the mirror of your entire design because you need a pipe input to be flipped is one of the experiences of all time

[small creek]

they let us rotate but not flip

its so good

[sick basin]

Also, is the pic u made simply just the mats required for prod and then feed FotS from depots or

Cuz i dont see space for fots

🥹

[silent violet]

u just replace the planters in the middle with fots

they are identical to fots

[analog elbow]

Send me then

[silent violet]

just used planters as placeholders since we dont have the patch yet

[sick basin]

The three in the middle towards the top and one more that is? 🥹

[silent violet]

its pretty obvious which ones arent actually used as planters

[sage vector]

Ughh doing manual transfer sometimes makes me crazy

[analog elbow]

@small creek share me some Clues

[sick basin]

Oh ye now that i look at it properly

[small creek]

you havent even added me :Realmad:

[analog elbow]

Share UID

[small creek]

and why would i want to add a filthy protocol stash lover

[sick basin]

Dont make triple youre able to then

[small creek]

hollup logging in 😆

[analog elbow]

This is racist. Mod ban this guy

[sick basin]

???

[analog elbow]

#ProtolStashMatter

[sick basin]

Babe i know where you live

[analog elbow]

Bruh

[sick basin]

I habe free day tmr

[small creek]

#KILLALLPROTOCOLSTASH

[sick basin]

I will pipebomb your mail

[analog elbow]

Daym

[small creek]

and bridges too but theyre kinda cool sometimes

[small creek]

I will bomb your pipe with my mail

[sick basin]

Bruh
Just come over and fuck me atp

[analog elbow]

Wait what

[sick basin]

[small creek]

Bro chill this is not AKO or the other place 😭

[sage vector]

Hahaha i just need to do this until patch comes

[small creek]

@analog elbow 4820051067

whatya need

[analog elbow]

Number 4 & 6

[sick basin]

But good idea, imma do the same

Thankfully i capped out ferrium bottles and parts last week for future use

[small creek]

i have 4 :ya:

[analog elbow]

Wait my girlfriend is calling

Wait a minute i don't have one

[small creek]

hello?

oh

[analog elbow]

[sick basin]

Openly cheating even here?

[small creek]

You did it first :realmad:

[craggy whale]

WHATS UR UID MAN

[analog elbow]

Wait

[sick basin]

Thats such a lie

[small creek]

Dont make me pull out the receipts smh

(i dont have them, please dont cus ill fail)

[sick basin]

What about you? You literaly flirting with suraj the second we became a thing, right infront of me :realmadder:

[small creek]

I thought suraj was OURS 🥹

[fossil spoke]

you guys exchanging UID now eh

👀

[analog elbow]

Yes

I forgor

[craggy whale]

wheres my pistol :(

[small creek]

over there 👉

just press the yellow button 7 more times

[sick basin]

In 7 more
Also, why are you all sending this shit here

[craggy whale]

bcs nobody talk

[small creek]

i talking blah blah

[analog elbow]

4717934733

My uid

[craggy whale]

thx ill report it

[small creek]

wtf i forgot to clue exchange and production assist today

im so washed

[smoky eagle]

My Forge in The Sky area looks a bit cleaner now 😄

[silent violet]

get ready to remodel soon buddy

[smoky eagle]

oh nooo

Actually i cleared out so much space

lemme ss how much space i still have

heheheh!!

I found something out >.<

Ziplines constructed inside AIC area don't count towards region limit

[small creek]

@analog elbow have u added alr

[analog elbow]

What's yours again

[small creek]

4820051067

@craggy whale u sneaky

[analog elbow]

Already done

Bless me with thy clue O' Great one

[small creek]

4 sent

[craggy whale]

awi dont have extra sadly

[analog elbow]

I played too much my finger isn't doing fine.

Well half of it is because of work

[analog elbow]

Thank you

[analog elbow]

All good. I got it

1.81K Credits

@sick whale I am richer now

[crude nebula]

[craggy whale]

and then in 9h it will gone

[analog elbow]

It's about sending a message

[small creek]

this mf screenshot maxing

i love it

[sick whale]

remember when i said i got 1.7k? i forgot to spent it LMAO

[small creek]

wtf bro 💀

[spark hedge]

Ciranite: Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01Ue368u13UO2I71a8.
Battery: Code: EFO013o72eU473au20579.
Medical: Code: EFO01521e6a715u92eIoe.

[sick basin]

If u call it properly

[small creek]

will 48k xiranite components last me until eos

[analog elbow]

Daily dose of Protocol Stashes

[small creek]

i wanna get rid of this forever

oh ffs

[sick basin]

Imma join then

[small creek]

get away from me yall

the only time ill forgive protocol stash if u replace it for converger in pwm

[analog elbow]

Wow i didn't mean to send that too

[small creek]

mon..

[fossil spoke]

huh

what did I just saw

[analog elbow]

My hand ig

[sick basin]

A wet looking hand

Bru

[small creek]

and i HATE pwm

so i will never forgive it

[analog elbow]

Wut. It's not even wet

What are you seeing

[sick basin]

Bro i saw like 5 nanoseconds

Get off my ass

[analog elbow]

And then he speculated it's wet

[elder lake]

I just want to ask something about the picture above @analog elbow

[analog elbow]

Oh yeah what is it? It's a cool line of protocol stashes right

[jovial breach]

external storage

[elder lake]

No. I'm saying why your hand looks very feminine? Are you secretly a female or something.

[merry wagon]

finally my valley stash is full now

[small creek]

what is this convo

[fossil spoke]

its damp

imo

[small creek]

can we not

[fossil spoke]

👀

[small creek]

can we get back to BUILDING FACTORY

[fossil spoke]

aight boss

[analog elbow]

No comment.

[fossil spoke]

last message about it, i promise

mon_chyt is attack helicopter

[severe nexus]

Someone rename this channel to unemployed behavior

[sick basin]

What in the fuck

[fossil spoke]

aight time to bail, the topic is derailed

[elder lake]

I think Monchy is secretly a female. I know it but i can't prove it

[analog elbow]

Ts is not factory related

[sick basin]

And youre openly an idiot rn

[fossil spoke]

lets stop guys

[elder lake]

Jokes aside. I'm going to have a Network of underground pipes

[fossil spoke]

anyway

[jovial breach]

that was not the wind

[fossil spoke]

whats ur opinion on the conduit

on 1.1

[small creek]

its getting genuinely weird ngl

[analog elbow]

are cool

[small creek]

like we get funny weird but this is just, weird

[elder lake]

I'm just playing. Chill out

[fossil spoke]

can we move on

like

[sick basin]

Underground piping

[fossil spoke]

[elder lake]

Just don't make it weird

[severe nexus]

Potential for fluid based circuits

[small creek]

gee i wonder who the fuck is doing that

must be the wind idk

[elder lake]

Must be the wind

[fossil spoke]

well, time to make a refinery pipeline then

[analog elbow]

I think it is the wind too

[small creek]

now i can get rid of my 1 billion water pump

i think

[fossil spoke]

conduit -> splitter -> conduit -> conduit -> splitter -> conduit

[elder lake]

💀

[analog elbow]

My condolences for those who filled the entire wuling with Pipes

[fossil spoke]

nahhh, u dont get rid of it

u hide it on the corner of the map

[rocky niche]

conduit? arent those for electrical stuff

[jovial breach]

when is the update again

[fossil spoke]

and utilize the underground piping

[analog elbow]

Bro didn't watch the version preview

[rocky niche]

[fossil spoke]

iirc conduit doesnt specifically all about electricity

[elder lake]

Kinda outdated i would say

[crude nebula]

Just keep the current pipe, let it became part oh v1.0 history in your map

[fossil spoke]

its just the name for protected piping iirc

[elder lake]

So can we dump the Waste into the 40K hole?

[analog elbow]

Yes

[fossil spoke]

like u can have:

electrical conduit, hvac conduit, plumbing conduit, and etc

[analog elbow]

Should be able too

[rocky niche]

you could do that even in v1.0

[elder lake]

Cool so i guess we're going Nestle Way

[analog elbow]

Yessir

Nestlé Believer

[elder lake]

[crude nebula]

I already set up a 40k AIC bp fluid tank so i can fill it later with sewage

[rocky niche]

nestle also incorporate child labor in their business

[analog elbow]

Are we not?

[fossil spoke]

did mon just commited to make an ecological incident

"nestle"

[rocky niche]

we dont?

[analog elbow]

Why did you even ask. I would never do something like that. Maybe worse

[merry wagon]

should be 12th March, so next Thursday

[analog elbow]

Idk i think we do

[warm agate]

we dont discriminate between children and adults, we incorporate everyone labor

[crude nebula]

So you admit that you commit crime?

[analog elbow]

Equal Rights for everyone

[warm agate]

exactly

[fossil spoke]

aight aight aight

[warm agate]

Equal lack of opportunity

[analog elbow]

We smort

[fossil spoke]

its derailing again

sus

💀

[analog elbow]

I mean it's factory related

[crude nebula]

[analog elbow]

Still in topic i would say

[crude nebula]

[analog elbow]

[warm agate]

[fossil spoke]

💀

[analog elbow]

Idk why the plot makes us looks like the good guys. We literally drain the locals out of their resources and sell it to them by making them bankrupt

[warm agate]

Nefarith was right

i'm getting flashbacks to Diablo 4 and lilith lmao

[analog elbow]

Endfield be like : You want more power? Infect yourself with Rock Cancer

[crude nebula]

At list their mine spot have infinite ore

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and buy our suppressants

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Stonks

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also a slave contract so you can bring us more benefits and land

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Idk how Perlica is not infected when we're the one rebuilt her Torso with Originium Arts

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Rhodes Island looking like saints in comparison

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Or maybe it makes her immune

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maybe affinity

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Idk but it does give her more power arts

Her art seems Excellent in her Data

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wasnt it said she had innate talent to begin with ?

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True

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the later events only enhanced her abilities

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While we woke up like a baby

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she high with will and intelligence, while only standard in attack and strength

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Very Weak + Amnesia
Perlica: Okay let's go to war now

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she literally said she learned that from us

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perli doesnt know what endmin saw in north

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Huh didn't she also went there?

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to be fair we need o know more about past Endmin

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wasnt her

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the comic said perli is only child when endmin went to north

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Ah

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i think it was more of a memory lsot in time, like when we dreamt as Endmin

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Imagine seeing Endmin as our Heroic Figures. Then the next cycle you're as tall as Endmin

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since spacetime works its magic in that place

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endmin age is ancient

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unknown

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but still looks young

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Haiyaaaaa

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Prologue Endmin : Big Turrets Go

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he could be a million years old for all we know

he is a child of originium

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She

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shhh

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it's clear the devs intended for endmin to be male

just look at the way they directed cutscenes

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Endmin's Gender depends on the mood.

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is that why he is sometimes silent with his VA and other times he speaks ? kek

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You pull a baddie and the next day you see Endmin as a female.

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"ayo girl lets get in the shower together"

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ardashir interaction with endmin are suitable for both endmin genders

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it's so clearly catered to women who love yaoi

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True. Both were meant to be cannon i guess. I also heard every operator thinks Endmin as uhhh whatever they believed.

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so much tension it's their drem

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yaoi and yume

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I still don't know why Endmin decided to create his machine exclusively for him. Like can only be activated using its own Originium Arts

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what machine

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Most of the stuff in Valley 4

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the PAC looking one that has plants all over?

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Not really

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So no one stole it

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There are many electronics that can only be activated by Endmin's Own Arts

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Imagine Chen calling 10 AIC into 1 spot

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That's why simple repair looks cool for them

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somehow got 5 successful artifice off 20 attempts

on two diff stats

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Now fully artific armor stats under 30 catalyst

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it was armor

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Oh wait is the new Red Gear needs to be upgraded from 5Star

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full artifice on mainstat and 2 on the skill

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Or it's a whole new set

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idk

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I hope it has the same stats but better artific enhance

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let me show

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Because if it's a whole lot better then 5star is just a waste

I mean gold gears

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idgi

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it's not that only endmin could fix those machines, but there are other people as well who could do that. it's just that endmin is the one who taught them how to use those things, and from endmin's teachings, they (the ones taught before) created their own variations to it

for example, in that one world quest in origin lodespring where we need to fix multiple robots stationed in one place and there is one technician locked behind the warehouse. that guy said the robots are ancient and he admitted he would take very long time to fix that. he even mentioned that the ancient robots are more complex than the current robots.

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this was 20 attempts lol

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Holy yappers

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Yeah very hard but doable.

Well whatever it is. Endmin can do it faster and more efficiently

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is that DPS or sub

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sub

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I would say investing in Sub stats is better and cheaper since we have a Good Match. Unless your luck is not a good match

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why would i use him as dps if i have laevatain

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wulfgards dmg kinda doodoo without sig

so i just use him as a full on support

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Because you're upgrading his Main stats

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do i upgrade his 2nd strongest attrib bc i play him as a sub-DPS? since when?

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Investing in Operators who does Amp Arts is more worth.

Like do you use Akekuri

Or Antal

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Antal

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Like Upgrading his Main Stats for Amp % is better. Wulfgard is only there to provide stacks

Welp unless you're maxxing Wulfgard

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not sure how upgrading Antal's mainstats upgrades his amp

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wulgard + rossi for sibling team

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its only upgradable by skill

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Isn't his Main Stats Intellect

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yes