aic-factory

[golden burrow]

then sure

[hollow drum]

ok fair

thats more efficient

[golden burrow]

wait

[hollow drum]

for that i have no idea yet LOL so thats a bridge to cross later

[rocky niche]

huh?

[golden burrow]

lc batteries use 180

[hollow drum]

LC is 1600 but I don't think they will make SC 3200

[golden burrow]

so 240 is not actually bad

[hollow drum]

240 is pretty thinkk if its only like 1800-2000 cap imo

[golden burrow]

uhh can you use day-to-day conversation english

[hollow drum]

if the cap difference between LC and SC is not that big, an extra 60 originium used per min would not be very good

it gets you thinking

[golden burrow]

lc is 1600 for 180, so as long as sc is more than uhh 2200 it's g

[hollow drum]

yeah it has to be 2200+

any less then you're probably considering a skip to just the HC

[rocky niche]

new ore might be for sc battery

[golden burrow]

but then you also need to calculate the trade value

[hollow drum]

whats LC trade value, 25 right?

[golden burrow]

ye

[somber snow]

in v4,
every battery tier is better than the last,

wouldnt it be the same for wuling too?

[golden burrow]

so 35+ is g

[hollow drum]

i read people skipped v4 SC

better in cap and trade value yes but i think the calcs is down to stock bills / material used or smth

[rocky niche]

lc and sc have low difference

[hollow drum]

i forgot the actual formula

[golden burrow]

i don't think we need to think about skipping tbh

[rocky niche]

compared to sc and hc difference

[golden burrow]

bc sc is still the max next patch

[somber snow]

low difference,
but sc is still better than lc

[hollow drum]

sc better than hc wut

[somber snow]

i wrote that very wrong

[hollow drum]

oh

[golden burrow]

i feel like you still wanna make sc

[hollow drum]

i personally didnt skip SC for V4

[jovial breach]

You shouldn't skip battery

[hollow drum]

its less about efficiency but more bc it was the most expensive thing to trade

LOL

[jovial breach]

You can skip buckle B but for battery it's not practical to skip

[rocky niche]

i also crafted sc batt as well because of slow progress in main story

[hollow drum]

think SC V4 battery was 35?

[somber snow]

its not, its less

about 30

[hollow drum]

32?

[somber snow]

yeah its 30

[golden burrow]

30 exactly

hc is 70

lc is uhh idk

[rocky niche]

10

[somber snow]

less than 15

[golden burrow]

so looking back

upgrading battery is always g

assuming you can sell

[somber snow]

like i said, every battery tier is better than the last,
skipping 1 isnt efficient, becuz u dont progress that fast,
unless u rush the story, and get all the nodes quickly

but there's also the stock that u need

yeah, dont skip a tier, thats stupid

[golden burrow]

nah even if you rush the story you still need money to upgrade dev level

so

[hollow drum]

yeah i think hc can only be sold to outpost level 3+

[dim portal]

i feel like i'm doing something wrong

[somber snow]

always

[hollow drum]

so skipping isnt good in that regard

[somber snow]

now show a picture

[dim portal]

i uh made this

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469541236040925307

well not made copied

[somber snow]

yeah, something wrong with ur syringe

[hollow drum]

is 12/min syringe even possible

[dim portal]

this is the example

[hollow drum]

you dont have enough ferrium no?

[golden burrow]

assuming you manually transfer ore, probably

[hollow drum]

oh fair

if metatransfer only its like 5.75/min max

[dim portal]

not ore

ferrium parts

[somber snow]

no reason to do that, outpost cant accumalte enough bills to keep up

[golden burrow]

mm you might wanna try asking in the blueprint thread actually

[hollow drum]

ferrium parts use ferrium ore buddy

[dim portal]

faster save up for 1.1

[golden burrow]

since bp problems are usually specific

[hollow drum]

they dont abracadabra out of thin air

[dim portal]

did

waiting

[hollow drum]

just wait for them then

[rocky niche]

metatransfer does that

[dim portal]

the ferrium parts is just not enough

but it's suppose to be enough

with meta storage

[somber snow]

thats also not a good reason,
its not hard or long to lvl up ur RDL,
or an outpost, if there is 1 next upd

[dim portal]

RDL/

?

[somber snow]

so burning urself out just for a few extra bucks isnt efficient,
unless u're into this

[somber snow]

Regional Development Level

[dim portal]

oh fair

[hollow drum]

if you're using metatransfer for ferrium parts did you try checking your v4 AIC report?

[dim portal]

well idk

i'm just trying to find a good

like genreal bp

[hollow drum]

make your own

[dim portal]

i'm stupid

[hollow drum]

same but i made my own

[golden burrow]

hmm

[dim portal]

what does that have to do with wuling?

[golden burrow]

do you still need xiranite components?

[somber snow]

ppl r so paranoid with getting as much income,
to a point where they start doing manual labour

[dim portal]

not exactly

i have around 44k

[hollow drum]

metatransfer takes from your valley 4 stock...?

so if you ran out of parts in v4, it wont send

[dim portal]

metastorage

[somber snow]

no it doesnt

[golden burrow]

if you don't need xira comps you wanna look for something like a 4.5 syringe/drink + 12 battery blueprint

[somber snow]

meta materializes stuff out of thin air,
u're talking about regional transfer

[dim portal]

with like 1/m comps is it like 3/m + 12/m?

[rocky niche]

there's bp from kyostinv, but his bp requires you to make components clogged up to make battery produce

[hollow drum]

oh alright, i thought they were the same ngl

[golden burrow]

comps would substract from the battery

[dim portal]

can't i just

turn off

the thing that makes it

[golden burrow]

so like 4.5 syringe/drink + 9 battery + 3 xira comps

or smth

[rocky niche]

you could turn off as well if you want

[dim portal]

i was using one before

[rocky niche]

but the whole bp has 2 battery lines, 2 component lines

[dim portal]

but it required me to

manually transfer using dijiang trick

at least once a day

to be able to buy out the outpost

[rocky niche]

kyostinv doesnt need manual transfer, iirc

[dim portal]

sell out/buy out ytou get what i mean

[somber snow]

xira comps on 1/min is already enough

[dim portal]

the ferrium components aren't there for that

[golden burrow]

ye that's why i asked if you needed xira comps, if you don't need comps 12 batteries will cover you

[dim portal]

max ferrium ore is like 90/m from miners + 25/m from metastorage

[calm scarab]

I think its ferrium ore transfer. I used his blueprint and he used 4 ferrium ore output

[dim portal]

aka 115/m

and i think one conveyor is 30/m no?

[hollow drum]

yeah

[calm scarab]

Just regional transfer*

[golden burrow]

in that case you sacrifice a production line in valley 4

[somber snow]

how many operators are there, 30?
30 x 4 x 50 = 6000 components,

and u're not even going to build all of them,
and weekly artifice takes 6k,
1/min for xira comps is enough

[golden burrow]

for the extra 5/min ferro

[dim portal]

i used like

5k or so

to get gilberta's from 0/0/0 to 2/2/2 today

like all 4 of her gear to lvl 2

[hollow drum]

its limited w the artificing component and not the xnite component

[calm scarab]

Regional transfer for items that can carry 1.5k at a time, think of them as 50min full time with 10min downtime.

[hollow drum]

the one you buy

[golden burrow]

i cleared agony with 0 artificing so technically you only need 0/min

[somber snow]

im assuming you're talking about the permanent artifice,
thats not coming back, after thats finished,
ull only get 60 artifice a week, which costs 4.8mil

[dim portal]

fair

anyways so

[calm scarab]

Occasionally you will need to manual transfer if you want consistent max output

[somber snow]

u can do it with blue gear, so eh

[dim portal]

let's assume that i only want like 0.75/1 per minute component

and rest is batteries and syringes/jincao

[calm scarab]

Its just minus 300 every hour after every manual transfer stockpile

[dim portal]

what bp should i use?

[hollow drum]

do you use only 1 line of origocrust and 1 xnite line to get to 1/min?

[somber snow]

yes

[hollow drum]

personally idk i didnt use any bps

[somber snow]

something like this

[hollow drum]

ah yea

[somber snow]

ignore the clog, i already fixed it

[hollow drum]

how much batteries are you getting / min btw

9?

[somber snow]

10/min, i use 1/min

[dim portal]

do u overflow on batteries?

after selling to outpost

[calm scarab]

I didn't think that far, i simply turn on/off the production that i want or unneeded anymore😂

[somber snow]

if i sell my syringes too, yes i do overflow

[dim portal]

and u make 4.5/m?

like syringes

[somber snow]

no, i make 6/min

[dim portal]

jesus

[somber snow]

well, more like 5.75, or something around that

[dim portal]

damn

[somber snow]

im too lazy to do the calc

[pulsar cypress]

Yess.. Using 12 bat 6 syringe, after several buying..
U will have overflow battery..

[somber snow]

here, have fun comparing

[dim portal]

well ok then where

not where but

[hollow drum]

90 + regional transfer is 5.75/m syringe/drink right

[dim portal]

the bottom right is essential

so anyways the

[somber snow]

that crucible down there is for me making bumper rich

[dim portal]

so can i just copy someone's bp of high production?

[hollow drum]

#1461542035617091681 ?

[dim portal]

yeah i copied one but as you saw earlier something ain't going right

[hollow drum]

oh i cant give you mine either way

so xdd

[dim portal]

na?

i mean

[hollow drum]

no

[dim portal]

asia

[hollow drum]

yes

[dim portal]

Mala are u asia too

[somber snow]

im in asia, yes

Top left for xiranite: EFO01eAo01Ii0e4aEo9i8.
Top right for battery and component: EFO013o72Oe823au30i79.
Bottom left for syringe and sandleaf: EFO01521eA64e5uaoeIoe.
I love Chen: EFO01iUIa6uAai2eO72U4.

here if you want the blueprints

[dim portal]

it's always the asians man!

[hollow drum]

im on 5.75 drink, 6 batteries and 3 comps, going to change back to 12 battery

[dim portal]

always the smart ones!

[dim portal]

yea but that's asia...

[somber snow]

oh wait, ure not in asia

[dim portal]

yeah...

yk i could just

copy it from images

then just make it EU/NA bps

and u can post it

shouldn't take that long

are u using pwm too?

[somber snow]

i dont think i can convert them from asia to en

[hollow drum]

you cant

[somber snow]

but i can just send the pics here

[spark hedge]

Do Anyone want this blueprint? 6 med, 12 battery/min

[hollow drum]

most people who do, have two accts iirc

[dim portal]

no i mean i can copy from the images then just send you the codes so u can post them in blueprints if u want

[somber snow]

nah, im good,
there are better blueprints in there anyway,
i just prefer to make my own, and im proud of this 1, and in v4

[dim portal]

i don't have the mental capacity or smarts to make any bases myself

so i just copy bps

[hollow drum]

just copy from a content creator

or someone else

[pulsar cypress]

Mine also messy, and sometimes re adjust again.. (Results fluctuate always)
Not maximal but kinda happy with the results..

[dim portal]

tried that, and it was subpar

from this doc

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vQy4bE29rB4hLl7CvCHs01QKaDsDi5D1f-0UMWSDIa4k4u3ofXLzEFObroC7BpfGpUJm5uqV-wArO95/pubhtml#gid=389275081

[hollow drum]

why not just use kyostin

[dim portal]

because i do not know who that is

[calm scarab]

Mine is 6/min syringe & 12/min wuling batt, i used ferrium part regional transfer

[dim portal]

• didn't someone say he also makes components

[dim portal]

that sounds good

tbh

[hollow drum]

you dont play the OG game?

[dim portal]

no...

[hollow drum]

ok

so basically

[dim portal]

i regret not starting it back near it's release

[hollow drum]

for OG AK players he is like Italian Jesus

so yeah he can be trusted lol

[calm scarab]

I stopped the xiranite liquid & xiranite gear production.

[dim portal]

Cool

sounds pretty good

[hollow drum]

i think youre the only NA person here buddy

[dim portal]

who

[hollow drum]

you

[arctic vortex]

[dim portal]

i'm EU

[hollow drum]

PGK is also Asia

[calm scarab]

Kyostinv need 4 sandleaf producer to keep up with his output as well

[dim portal]

honestlyt

it's been the case

alot of smart/good players i've talked to

not only here but in other ark9 servers

are all asian

[somber snow]

im gonna sound rude and egotistical,
but the other EN ppl here,
ive seen them talk about factories and stuff,
they did not have good takes

[hollow drum]

wdym by EN people

[arctic vortex]

VN guy spotted

[dim portal]

VN?

[arctic vortex]

only thoe call ak by "a9/ ark9"

[somber snow]

ppl who arent in asia,
Americans/EU like skitz

[dim portal]

fair enough

[hollow drum]

im gonna say something

I do not find that surprising whatsoever

[dim portal]

do u guys wanna guess what my most recent exposure to arknights was before the game came out

[somber snow]

chen

[dim portal]

no

[somber snow]

fuck

was it paypal?

[dim portal]

no

before the game came out

[somber snow]

i give up

[dim portal]

it's the funny

[hollow drum]

Wis'adel

[dim portal]

korean game

[arctic vortex]

Nikke?

[dim portal]

i feel insulted

[arctic vortex]

it's korean

so

[dim portal]

we're not talking about ass starting game

[golden burrow]

project moon

stuff

[dim portal]

staring*

[dim portal]

🤨

[calm scarab]

Arknights came out during covid, sympathize with ppl being called infected

[dim portal]

i saw that ew

[golden burrow]

project moon stan (slur)

[hollow drum]

ew

[dim portal]

i'm not a stan

[hollow drum]

(i have only heard bad things about it)

[dim portal]

community is a hivemind

same jokes

that kind of stuff

[arctic vortex]

Do you mean arknights or endfield

[hollow drum]

then again i only play three gacha games and two of them are Arknights

[golden burrow]

honestly i don't know anything about it

i just know the ceo is an ak whale

[dim portal]

techncially both i just mean recently before endfield came out

[dim portal]

i play 4

[hollow drum]

im sorry for you

[dim portal]

not that bad actually

[hollow drum]

well its not as bad as some others I suppose

[arctic vortex]

not both, one came out 6 years ago

[hollow drum]

I have seen people who play 8

[somber snow]

currently i only play wuwa and ak en,
i dropped genshin, i stopped og ak cuz i got bz

[pulsar cypress]

Not bad ig..
For a nub in building..

[dim portal]

well i'm talking about arknights in general, i am just talking about my most recent exposure to it BEFORE endfield came out

[dim portal]

i play
zzz
wuwa
limbus
aken

[arctic vortex]

and you're saying it's some random korean game

[hollow drum]

i quit hsr and gi 3 years ago
i only recently came back to AK
other i play is GFL2 and AKE

kind of about returning to ZZZ

[golden burrow]

the korean game in question is limbus company

[dim portal]

funny thing is it's not overwhelming because i can do limbus dailies on my phone while doing zzz and wuwa, then wait for 11:00 for endfield reset

[dim portal]

quitting hsr is the best decision a gacha player can make

[hollow drum]

i can play AK during off time at work bc i work at home

and I basically dont even play Endfield

[arctic vortex]

Well limbus collabed with arknights a while ago which resulted in ak server being raided

[dim portal]

holy codes

[dim portal]

ah damn

that sounds shit

[calm scarab]

Korean game... Dungeon slasher?

[dim portal]

i love Skadi ego tho

[hollow drum]

korean game is insanely unspecific so i cba guessing

[dim portal]

idea was to be a lil bit obscure

my pfp is one of the main characters, but i don't expect anyone to notice it

[hollow drum]

if i wanted to play puzzle games i would go play puzzle games

tbh

[golden burrow]

no i mean you seemed confused about the "korean game" talk, just trying to answer the question

[dim portal]

if the

ak server got raided cuz of the collab

like the bad kind of raided

that sucks

i just liked the event in game and i liked the egos/gacha stuff they added

[arctic vortex]

idk if it was bad or good, but i know mods had a hard time because of limbus fans spamming limbus stuff in the ak channel

[dim portal]

https://tenor.com/view/limbus-company-arknights-gregor-mlynar-młynar-gif-3376302344000978515

[arctic vortex]

and they have a rule against offtopic

[dim portal]

there is that

limbus fans are realy

how do i say this

the lore and the shitty gacha (which makes it good) is like the main selling point of limbus

and the characters but that's a given about any gacha

[golden burrow]

wait a sec

you said you weren't a project moon stan

[dim portal]

yeah?

[arctic vortex]

[dim portal]

i am a PM fan just nota stan

but if you group both of those under one flag and call it stan then yeah you could say that

[somber snow]

thats only true for KPOP

[dim portal]

what exactly

[somber snow]

that all fans are stans

[dim portal]

yeah true

[uneven kestrel]

What do you guys produce using 6 ports on AIC

[arctic vortex]

[dim portal]

I'm a fan of the game, and i like the previous 2 games, but i'm not a stan that like goes to other communities just to share it and stuff

[hollow drum]

how far are you into the story?

[dim portal]

if someone asks me about it i'll talk about it but i'm not gonna be like
"did you know that in limbus company-"

[uneven kestrel]

Stuck at level 25 required story

[arctic vortex]

if you make everything compact you wouldn't need the 6 ports from aic, you'll be ore-gated anyway

[hollow drum]

basically until you finish v4 story just produce whatever your available outposts need

i assume you dont have depot buses unlocked yet even

[somber snow]

all the chocolate lavas i can eat

[uneven kestrel]

yes 😂

[hollow drum]

yeah so

unlock more tech

[thorn pike]

do whatever you can think of. The most optimal non-maxlv factory is like 1-2% compared to the max one. Whatever you are making is minimal, so dont sweat over it

go play the story and build the factory later

just save 1000+ of each stuff because they are needed later in small amount

produce whatever you can think of

[golden burrow]

i think

he's asking about what you actually use the >ports< for

in that case uhh

don't use them

just use the depot loaders/unloaders

[frail trail]

Hmm how does one optimize space

[golden burrow]

place facilities as close as possible ie. don't use longer belts than needed

[hollow drum]

the first thing i do is shortening belts

[golden burrow]

at the same time try to optimize pylons coverage, don't overlap

[frail trail]

Yeah ik those, just really having a hard to figuring out how to place stuff to use up dead space

[golden burrow]

you can look up compact blueprints for inspiration

[hollow drum]

at some point you kinda have to accept that theres space that you really cant force into

[golden burrow]

no shame in stealing ideas

[hollow drum]

like

[thorn pike]

one do not

[hollow drum]

what i even do here

[thorn pike]

icecream maker

[hollow drum]

i could move it all to the left again but like it looks horrible

like worse than this

[golden burrow]

put the sandleaf shredder in the middle of the ferrium shredders so you don't have to triple belt like that

[somber snow]

the more belt bridges u use,
the more space u save,
do with that as u will

[frail trail]

Im fine with looking at others' bp, issue is that no has really done a 120 xiranite/m bp

[hollow drum]

bc you cant no?

[golden burrow]

THAT'S BECAUSE IT DOESN'T EXIST YET

[frail trail]

Prepping for next update

[golden burrow]

BRO

[hollow drum]

too smart for me

anyway

[frail trail]

Already have my 60

[somber snow]

this guy is preparing for next update

[frail trail]

Calling dibs for 120 because it was be really funny

[somber snow]

imo, thats pointless

[real crescent]

just place 2 60/min next to each other?

[hollow drum]

do i not triple belt regardless?

[golden burrow]

i mean don't you just make a compact 30/min xira and copy it 4x

[hollow drum]

or do you mean 3 long ones

[frail trail]

That works, just want to make a really small one

Like maybe 40x40

[hollow drum]

like im assuming i just swap one of the ferrium shredders w the sandleaf

[golden burrow]

i mean like this

[real crescent]

the middle empty space is two tiles you could save by just moving them in

[frail trail]

Cuz this was the best that I could come up with

35x42

[dim portal]

WALLAHI

[frail trail]

Even then had a shit ton of dead space

[hollow drum]

ok i dont understand what you mean by triple belt cuz this is still triple belt

[golden burrow]

yes you don't have to triple long belt on the side like that

[hollow drum]

ah ok

triple LONG belt

got it

[frail trail]

Also some how fumbled the pipe connection

[hollow drum]

good shout let me stay up until 4am fixing my AIC for no other purpose

[golden burrow]

tbf

as long as it works and it fits

there's no problem

[real crescent]

that setup they posted also has the benefit of not needing an extra row to fit a pylon

[frail trail]

To be fair i do have a 80x55 plot still leftover

[hollow drum]

yeah i saw that as well, i think i'll try adapt it into my setup

cuz i do use a bit too many pylons

maybe 1-2 more than i shld

[golden burrow]

this setup is pinned fyi

well

there's a simulator pinned, this is an example blueprint from that simulator

[hollow drum]

well rather than stealing it outright im just gonna fix mine in a way

[golden burrow]

that's fine too

[dim portal]

alr i copied kyostinv's setup

now i hope

this one works

[golden burrow]

make sure to read the instructions if there's any

bc some blueprints needs some extra steps

[dim portal]

that should be all rn

just gotta wait a bit to see how it is

[brittle crest]

Hmmmm should I try to squeeze in a second battery line in my Wuling AIC. Thanks to the help earlier I’m hitting the max xiranite I can make… and I got 15 excess xiranite to spare

[dim portal]

only extra step is if you want to keep your subAIC empty

or have something there

[golden burrow]

fair

[dim portal]

it's the aura farmer

[real crescent]

wdym squeeze in? unless you created an insane mess, there should be plenty of space left to fit a bunch more battery lines

[brittle crest]

Il probably need a second sandleaf loop too though but I digress I should have the space for it

[dim portal]

this is very interesting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laxbhHWrRw8

[exotic lynx]

Hi I have a quick question
How do I get the battery to stay at 5k

[hollow drum]

are you producing enough batteries?

show your AIC report

[exotic lynx]

it gets up to 5k but then after a while it drops to this

[hollow drum]

just show AIC report

[exotic lynx]

Nothing is working cuz I don’t have power

[hollow drum]

show your battery production in the AIC report

[marble yarrow]

what battery do you use and how much is left

[marble yarrow]

also why are you targetting 5k in power, you should be closer to your power usage. maybe you are over using battery

[hollow drum]

I think this should be a 3 /min battery for v4

[marble yarrow]

maybe remove 1 bank

[hollow drum]

are you using thermal banks yet?

[marble yarrow]

also where are your thermal banks located

[hollow drum]

yeah thats important too

[exotic lynx]

I have three of these

[hollow drum]

my guess of whats happening is:

• thermal banks are connected directly to battery producer
• battery producer isnt producing enough batteries

yeah im right

[exotic lynx]

How do I fix

[marble yarrow]

step 1, remove all thermal banks

do you have a free depot unloader/aic unloader

you're better off fetching batteries for thermal banks from these, rather than directly from the packaging unit

[hollow drum]

also

is that one or two steel part input into the battery unit?

[marble yarrow]

here's how i've been using these since when i started

[hollow drum]

I do the same just using a depot unloader instead

[exotic lynx]

I think I do

[hollow drum]

its like less risky if your battery unit stops producing

[exotic lynx]

Idk

[marble yarrow]

your power requirement is enough for 3 battery banks that consumes HC

[hollow drum]

this is not the battery unit

[exotic lynx]

It is they go into the battery

[hollow drum]

ok thats a better screenshot

[marble yarrow]

yeah looks good

[hollow drum]

thats enough input so my guess is just the thermal bank placement

the belts are a bit too long but thats nitpicky, this setup should work

[exotic lynx]

Wait so what should I change

[frail trail]

The wuling bus has to be inside the plot right?

[somber snow]

yes

[frail trail]

Ight

[hollow drum]

instead of outputting batteries into thermal banks, use an AIC output port / depot unloader to do it

Store the batteries using protocol stash or the likes

[hollow drum]

you only should be at 3/m usage of the HC battery currently cuz your power usage is at 3.41k

[exotic lynx]

Ok but doesn’t that mean I can’t sell the battery

[marble yarrow]

should be 4.5/min (when 3 battery)

[pulsar cypress]

U still have hc battery in stock?

[thorn pike]

my factory has a problem?

[frail trail]

You generally use less battery than you make

[marble yarrow]

how many battery packaging unit did u built

[exotic lynx]

3

[marble yarrow]

you will still have enough to sell

[frail trail]

You get 18hc/m with 3, more than enough to sell

[thorn pike]

you will eventually make more than you can store

dnt worry

[marble yarrow]

just do it first, then lets see how your factory works when powered

since you still have some battery left in depot

[thorn pike]

even if you use 5 thermal banks the batteries will reach to MAX

[exotic lynx]

ITS WORKING

really close to limit tho

[marble yarrow]

let it run for a few minutes and check AIC report later

[exotic lynx]

Ok, how long would u say

[marble yarrow]

like, 3 minutes

[thorn pike]

make it 4

[marble yarrow]

check if belts are now filling up

[fervent stratus]

Might be just me but there are less people doing deliveries. I kept seeing a lot of Origin Node ones

[exotic lynx]

Is there anyway to stop this from clogging

[marble yarrow]

i only select wuling and 74k ones

[exotic lynx]

It works bus takes a while to start again

[marble yarrow]

clear them out manually. they clogged due to being unpowered before

[hollow drum]

your steel parts are slowing it down too

[pulsar cypress]

Also check the top center..
Make sure the 1% battery thing goes up to 100% and not keep going down again..

[exotic lynx]

I think that’s why but not sure how to change

[marble yarrow]

bro

where are them stocks

[exotic lynx]

It’s at 100

[marble yarrow]

sleeping miners lmao

[hollow drum]

check the recipes. one steel uses 2 dense ferrium cubes

[exotic lynx]

😔😔

[hollow drum]

you only have 1

and yeah thats gonna be another problem

[exotic lynx]

I have two I think

[hollow drum]

actually no

[pulsar cypress]

Then thats good.. Just make sure it didn't drop..
If drop, it means u will have energy problem like this again..

[hollow drum]

steel doesnt take two

[frail trail]

You ran out of ferrium, damn

[hollow drum]

so its just the miners

[golden burrow]

does bro even have all the miners

[marble yarrow]

what is your theoretical yield for all ores

[golden burrow]

or the dev level

[hollow drum]

yeah after all is running again, post the AIC report with all ores and your battery output highlighted

[exotic lynx]

I’m in the process of getting more dw
It’s just the power thing that was stopping me

Also I’m really close to the limit how do I get more power

[hollow drum]

you shouldnt need more power unless youre trying to expand again

aka add more facilities

[thorn pike]

domain expansion requires a huge amount of power though

[fervent stratus]

Right now, I'm selecting Wuling and 288K ones that are on 1d or less (I do my own 288K now)

[hollow drum]

if you do really need more, you just add more thermal banks

[hollow drum]

?

[thorn pike]

ryoki tenkai

[hollow drum]

?

[thorn pike]

[frail trail]

?

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/satoru-gojo-domain-expansion

[marble yarrow]

what are your ore numbers right now?

[fervent stratus]

I just ignore 310K ones from Power Plat since I know someone will pick those up eventually.

[thorn pike]

where's the fukuma mizushi

master chef kitchen

[exotic lynx]

Just checking give me a sec

[frail trail]

Is there any other website aside from endfieldtools.dev for base planning on mobile?

[hollow drum]

microsoft excel

[frail trail]

The control on that website is really bad and enka doesn't work for mobile

[hollow drum]

wdym enka has endfield stuff now

[frail trail]

Wdym

[marble yarrow]

https://enka.network/endfield/aic/

[hollow drum]

i thought enka would mostly focus on hoyo stuff

[marble yarrow]

true

[pulsar cypress]

I just know also enka enfield exist..

[fervent stratus]

*Look at Xiranite....
OK WHY is it almost capped.... what...

[frail trail]

There is also mobalytic out of all website doing endfield stuff

[brittle crest]

I cannot believe this worked in lowering my xiranite usage from 65/60 to 60/60

[fervent stratus]

I FORGOT TO connect the dense ori dust to Packager LOL

[frail trail]

220 yield?

Wth

[golden burrow]

we need the theoretical data

[marble yarrow]

i need more of this

[golden burrow]

it's cutoff

[frail trail]

Hopefully it's not actually 220

[marble yarrow]

endgame build with early game resource

[frail trail]

Oh my days

[marble yarrow]

bro

[frail trail]

Place down mining rigs on those ferrium mining spot

[marble yarrow]

wdym you jumped to endgame directly 😭

[frail trail]

Actually

[exotic lynx]

😛✌️

[frail trail]

Place down mining rigs on EVERYTHING

[exotic lynx]

I will do
I was doing that but got cut off cuz the power thing

How do I get more power

[frail trail]

By using the thermal bank

[golden burrow]

put down more thermal banks

[frail trail]

Did you skip the tutorial on thermal bank as well?

[exotic lynx]

Ik but idk how many thermal banks for each depot

[frail trail]

Thermal bank's location doesn't matter

[exotic lynx]

I mean like to me affective how many per depot

[golden burrow]

uhh

more than 4

[frail trail]

That's per region btw

[golden burrow]

i think 1 unloader can handle like 8 banks actually

(never tested)

[merry wagon]

thermal banks can power the entirety of the vally 4 region no matter where they're placed

[golden burrow]

brothers

[frail trail]

So like the hub+refugee camp+ park + power plateau is 4 thermal

[golden burrow]

he's asking how many thermal banks can a depot unloader fuel

[exotic lynx]

Ik bro😔

[exotic lynx]

Yes bro

[pulsar cypress]

Me mostly just 4 at max per unloader/port..
*still have many unload port free anyway..

[frail trail]

Ok i thought he was asking how many per sub aic

[merry wagon]

oh

[golden burrow]

my answer is 4+ (probably up to 8 but i've never tested it)

[merry wagon]

4 or 5 ig, I had a 4 bank rig

[exotic lynx]

Mine rn

[real crescent]

a depot unloader brings out 30 items a minute. if you fill thermal banks with batteries, a bank needs 1.5 batteries a minute. so 20 thermal banks from one unloader should be in theory possible

[hollow drum]

guys my wulfgard is broken hes running around the subPAC for no reason

[frail trail]

You should probably go rig up those mining spot instead of being here

[pulsar cypress]

Me similar, but 3 line + 1 at the end..

[exotic lynx]

So rn i need to just get more blue roc

[frail trail]

You need to get all of them

[cyan forge]

if u split it all at the same time, yes

[pulsar cypress]

All the ore locations.. Mine em all..
Dont left any spot not mined..

[exotic lynx]

I got all of them here except the top one

[frail trail]

957 sanity what the fuck

[golden burrow]

the closer banks will get more batteries -> fill up -> clog -> the splitters will eventually distribute it equally

[exotic lynx]

We don’t talk about that

They were going to expire and I didn’t know what to do 😔😔

[pulsar cypress]

In other areas also.. °-°)b
Valley pass, aubrey mine, origin park, etc..
Mine em all, left none behind..

[cyan forge]

yeah

[frail trail]

Go unlock more of the map and then place down more mining rigs

[exotic lynx]

Idk which quests are for which places

[golden burrow]

another mystery of the universe solved (an unloader can fuel 20 banks at once) we made another step forward endfielders 🙏

[golden burrow]

bro just skip the factory and do the main quest first

you can come back later

[hollow drum]

was this necessary? no
did i want to do it? also no

[exotic lynx]

I’ve done the main quest

[hollow drum]

why did i do it? idk

[golden burrow]

up until the end?

like wuling?

[exotic lynx]

Yep

[golden burrow]

ok then

[hollow drum]

@golden burrow thanks for the idea

[golden burrow]

start doing green quests

those will unlock stuff

[frail trail]

Most of the map aren't locked behind a side quest

[pulsar cypress]

U just being saved from energy problem..
If using endgame template without mining every spot, soon u will have 0 ores stock to make the factory works..
Coz lack ores supply from the mines..

[hollow drum]

it looks somewhat less ugly but also idk

[exotic lynx]

Yep
I’ve been doing blue ones and character quests so far

[frail trail]

Except for like 2 mining spots out of 50+

[golden burrow]

ok then

you should start placing down miners

assuming you've unlocked all parts of all maps

[hollow drum]

a huge ferrium node is unlocked behind Wulfgard's quest

fyi

i would get that out of the way really fast

[golden burrow]

bro i don't remember which one unlocks what

just do them all

[hollow drum]

this one

i think thats the only node locked behind side quests

[frail trail]

Infra station in new feature

Wha

[hollow drum]

wut

[exotic lynx]

Working my way though them

[pulsar cypress]

Make some electric pillars and rigs first..
So while u do quest and explore, if see one just directly place the rig..

[hollow drum]

bankrupting the people

[exotic lynx]

I play 4gscha games tho so it might take a while 😛

[frail trail]

There should be a big ferrium vein after you do wulfgurd quest, a big vein after doing infra station upgrade 2(or 3), a originium behind the power plant quest in park

[merry wagon]

bro jumped straight to hc battery production without half of the mining spots

[frail trail]

Not gonna lie to you, endfield is the most time consuming gacha game

[thorn pike]

i just autoed this

zero team building

lol

[hollow drum]

power grid on turret user detected

[exotic lynx]

Yep but it’s the best by far

[hollow drum]

hands free baby

[golden burrow]

oh i was wondering about this

batteries better yes?

[hollow drum]

yar

[golden burrow]

yas brotha

[exotic lynx]

What’s that

[hollow drum]

i just press gilberta skill off cooldown and wait for next wave w this setup

[golden burrow]

i use sentries and just afk

[pulsar cypress]

Gil vacuum is really handy..

[frail trail]

Speaking of gilberta i should probably build her

[golden burrow]

everything is 1shot

[hollow drum]

i could probably do that but this alluvium spreads enemies out

kinda cringe ngl

wuling alluvium doesnt

since this is surge tower its more dps if theyre grouped so the chain attack can bounce

instead of just hitting one dude

but i should probably change some of it to the 11k damage turret (idr the name) cuz it has two elites

[frail trail]

Beam tower?

[hollow drum]

yea idk

[frail trail]

Change some to beam

[hollow drum]

i use like 50 of that in wuling

[hollow drum]

if you dont she haunts you

[frail trail]

You still need those surge tower for the trash mob imo

[hollow drum]

this is true and real

https://tenor.com/view/angelina-gilberta-arknights-endfield-gif-11189945124697171991

[golden burrow]

dead ange 🙏

[frail trail]

But i have unlimited bacon but no games

[hollow drum]

yeah its 26 trash mobs and 2 elites

so 2 beam and 8 surge shld work

the fun part about this is, Gil's skill triggers Wulfgard combo

[frail trail]

Replaced some of mine with the marsh gas without knowing what they do

[hollow drum]

marsh gas is aoe dmg + slow right?

[frail trail]

Long story short i was disappointed

[hollow drum]

yea its whatever

[golden burrow]

slow doesn't stack

[hollow drum]

but i use it in wuling

[golden burrow]

so you only want 1

[hollow drum]

mostly for the aoe

[golden burrow]

but it's useful in tower defense tho

[hollow drum]

dmg

yeah

outpost def just get one in every choke

[frail trail]

Maybe 1.1 will give us something not as butt cheeks as marsh gas for farming

[hollow drum]

we already have beam and surge

what else do you need

a tac nuke?

[pure mural]

Is there a list of max products you can make per region? I have so much space leftover but I'm not sure what to manufacture

[hollow drum]

which region specifically

[hollow drum]

delulu tower

[pure mural]

Both

[hollow drum]

armor fragger hmm

[pure mural]

Just trying to find like what people make to maximize profits

[hollow drum]

for me

v4
18 buck A
18 hc batt
24 citrome c

wl
5.75 drink
12 battery

[golden burrow]

the most widely accepted money making setup is 18 buck/cit A + 18 hc battery + 24 buck/cit C for valley and 4.5 (6 if you want to bother with manual transfer) + 12 lc batteries for wuling

you can substract batteries in wuling for xira comps if you need them

[frail trail]

You will always be outpacing outposts production with those setup btw

[pure mural]

Thanks guys, I haven't made the citrome C yet so will do that tonight.

Wuling on the other hand...... We're all just broke on Wuling stocks huh?

[small creek]

heres mine

[frail trail]

Wuling minimum is like 5.75 syringe + 7.5 bat to outpace

[small creek]

its a little more than the usual 24 citromeC

[pure mural]

Thanks

[golden burrow]

you're not making as much wuling moneys as you are valley moneys but tbf outside of artificing there's nothing much to use those moneys on

[frail trail]

Outpost + delivery should be more than enough to buy 60 catalysts weekly

[small creek]

wuling is weird, it depends on what u want

[frail trail]

And the environmental as well don't forget about those

[pure mural]

I started the game late so I'm trying to catch up and buying out the weekly stuff from the shop

[hollow drum]

wuling got like barely 20% of the resources v4 has so yea it produces about 20% of bills

per day

[golden burrow]

take your time man, it's not like those are going anywhere

and it's not like you need 1000000 of those things

[frail trail]

Are we getting more weekly catalyst in 1.1?

Hopefully not tbh

[golden burrow]

probably

i mean

[hollow drum]

not worth burning yourself out and potentially just not playing the game for a month or more

imo

[golden burrow]

you don't really need to artifice anyway

[hollow drum]

the "chase" mindset ruined a couple of players i know

"oh if i dont chase then i lose out on resources that ill need in the future"

calm down

[small creek]

people who felt the need to collect aerospace material:

[hollow drum]

i stopped collecting those after dijiang 5

[frail trail]

We are already losing just for playing gacha game, trust

[hollow drum]

whos we

you speaking french

?

[proven ferry]

yea i never understood the people who are hyper focused on minmaxing materials like bro the game JUST came out

[frail trail]

Nuh uh

[small creek]

we (singular)

[proven ferry]

just have some fun bro

it should kind of be basic knowledge on what you should be saving or not saving anyways if i'm being honest

[hollow drum]

same people gonna complain of no content or too much things to do later

[proven ferry]

if you've played like any game ever you just kind of know

[hollow drum]

like damn bro get a hobby

[proven ferry]

like oh yea i probably shouldn't use that yet

[small creek]

ppl minmax cus of fomo, i minmax for fun

ggs bro

[hollow drum]

i dont minmax i just dont play

[small creek]

damn youre just better tbh

[hollow drum]

new season fallout 76 bro

[proven ferry]

https://klipy.com/gifs/memy-33

[frail trail]

I was about to lose my mind but fortunately it was 76 and not the other one

[small creek]

fallout 67

[hollow drum]

i say i "play" gachas but its like 30mins across 3 games daily LOL

[pure mural]

Yea I'm in sort of that headspace rn cus this is the first gacha game where I actually really like the game itself so I was trying to optimize but u right, I'll pace myself

[frail trail]

https://tenor.com/view/shocked-football-black-man-jump-jumping-gif-27706312

[hollow drum]

the resources wont disappear if you take your time

its not like everything is on a timelimit

not even Hyv games do that

[golden burrow]

non weekly gacha tickets 😔

why

[hollow drum]

is there a game that has limited time gacha tickets

holy shit

[frail trail]

Play as unoptimal as you want

[hollow drum]

i dont know bc ive not played more than 6

[golden burrow]

no i mean

those tickets in the stock shop

don't refresh

it should refresh

so we have a constant supply

yk

[hollow drum]

oh the generic chartered ones?

[golden burrow]

ye

[hollow drum]

yeah they should

they refreshed in the OG game

so

[pure mural]

They're stingy about the gacha tickets because you get weapon pull currency in this game

I don't think we'll ever get a steady stream of pulls even for standard

[hollow drum]

inb4 they change it in 1.2

all hail hypergryph

[frail trail]

We don't even get a good arsenal ticket source no?

[pure mural]

I will gladly be proven wrong

I want more pulls

[hollow drum]

theyre already adding more standard tickets

[hollow drum]

you get it as long as you pull

i think its a fair system

[pure mural]

Just from upgrading no?

It'll run out again after you upgrade the shop and buy them

[hollow drum]

its still more, albeit not a steady source yeah

[frail trail]

My issue is when I'm saving pull because I don't like a certain character then I could miss out on a weapon

[hollow drum]

well

[frail trail]

Thank god the weapon banner runs for 3 banner in a row

[hollow drum]

i would like to think their respective weapon is really only good for them

so theres not a point to get them for another char

at least in other games I played it was like that

[pure mural]

I personally don't think it's that much of an issue tho. Limited weapons are tailor made for limited characters. If you don't like the character, chances are you won't need the weapon either.

[hollow drum]

yup yup

[golden burrow]

or like

your character's sig is bis

[frail trail]

Getting a shit ton of non BiS weapons are great tho

[golden burrow]

so other char's weapons is lesser

[hollow drum]

why get expensive non BiS

[golden burrow]

at the end of the day

[hollow drum]

when you can just moderately spend lower prices on other non BiS

[golden burrow]

the game isn't that hard

just play what you want

you don't need those super weapons

just use the free 5*

or the selector boxes weapons

[frail trail]

Like imagine getting aquila favonia and not having a character to use it on, couldn't relate less smh

[hollow drum]

i never levelled that piece of shit

and i wasnt going to create a reason for me to level it

sometimes, it is that simple

[proven ferry]

need more tcreds man

the true endgame gatekeep

[lone pebble]

sell :)) btw , u guys still have a few ish zip`s in Wulling covering "NodeQ" & ress?

[hollow drum]

real lmao

[proven ferry]

got hella materials but no creds

https://klipy.com/gifs/atlas3dss-atlas3dss-begging-1

[golden burrow]

have you considered

not leveling up literally everyone

[proven ferry]

i've only level'ed 2 teams

[golden burrow]

wait free tcreds isn't enough to raise 2 teams???

💀

[hollow drum]

nope

ive only levelled 6 chars and im on the verge of running out

and its not even all 90s

most clvl 80/90 and wlvl 80/90

wait no. 7 chars

not evenly upgraded tho

[proven ferry]

yea when i say level'ed i mean like optimized leveling as well

like some have 0 upgrades into basic attack or their combo

depending what i'm using them for

still not enough tcreds

we poor out here

[hollow drum]

Akekuri for me is 62/80 and only has ult upgrades

Laeva is all skill 9 tho cuz I dum

[golden burrow]

😔

[fervent stratus]

My Akekuri is prob like "What Ult upgrade?"

[golden burrow]

poor feelsbadman

[fervent stratus]

I prob upgrade her Ult but unlikely it is maxed since I pooled most of the stuffs into Lae

[hollow drum]

my Pog still on lvl 60 wp and Endmin lvl 14

its not even half a 2nd team bro

[fervent stratus]

I have like 1 built team (Lae) and 2 partially built team (Avy and LR)right now

[proven ferry]

i'm glad i stopped investing into perl cause she getting replaced for tang tang

[hollow drum]

im saving resources until i acc need a 2nd team

for now i only use Laevatain team

[fervent stratus]

I want LR for Etch and bosses

[proven ferry]

i like yvonne so i built her team and got lucky that tang tang is also cryo

[hollow drum]

im waiting for Fangyi

[proven ferry]

i hope to god i got tcreds by then

i imagine she will be released with mifu

[somber snow]

i have 3 teams

[hollow drum]

i need to build a team for Chen bc I just build teams for my favs at some point

but not sure when that will be

[proven ferry]

my alt account is for that LOL i play ember dps on my alt

[hollow drum]

I already use Lae and Gil in the same team, and Fangyi is still one or two patches away

[proven ferry]

it's fun trust

[hollow drum]

alt

play another game bro

[proven ferry]

listen man it was actually pretty quick the second time

skipping all the dialogue and already knowing what to do

now i just login for dailies

[hollow drum]

pick up a new hobby

[proven ferry]

i ran 8 miles yesterday does that count

[golden burrow]

gacha gamers making excuses to hide their gambling addiction

😔

[somber snow]

thats called being healthy, not having a hobby

unless u do stuff like hiking

[proven ferry]

i just play games and workout man talking to people is against the law

socializing bad

icky

[hollow drum]

i know you made an alt so you dont pull in your main

just cant prove it

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[proven ferry]

i haven't played a gacha since PGR days

i'm not an addict i swear

[hollow drum]

what is pgr

[proven ferry]

haven't spent a dime other than the $10 pass

[hollow drum]

[proven ferry]

PGR my goat

wish i could get the money back from that game

i learned my lesson

[severe nexus]

Mfw bro neatly avoids the pgr question

[severe nexus]

Punishing gray raven

[proven ferry]

Had to avoid Wuwa for that reason

i would be homeless rn

[hollow drum]

so you are a gamba addict

[proven ferry]

only when they want me to be

[hollow drum]

sure

[golden burrow]

bro avoided genshin 2 just to play genshin 3 with alts

[hollow drum]

HAHAHAHA

[golden burrow]

😔

[hollow drum]

yey

yet

[proven ferry]

wait i gotta delete that

can't let them know

https://klipy.com/gifs/bye-13787

[hollow drum]

spark pull coming up

youll get desperate

nothing else to farm...

[hidden mural]

For a sec I thought I opened the wrong channel 💀
Had to double check I was in #aic-factory

Anyways, can someone tell me what are the best products to make for the valley 4?

[golden burrow]

you're in luck bc we just had this convo

[hidden mural]

[jovial breach]

why it's 4.5/min tactical for wuling ?

isnt it 5.75

[golden burrow]

i was assuming no metatransfer

no metatransfer = 4.5
metatransfer = 5.75
+manual transfer = 6

tho 4.5 + 12 batteries is already enough to empty the outpost so...

[hidden mural]

What's the difference between meta transfer and normal transfer? My valley 4 still lvl 10

[golden burrow]

metatransfer generates materials out of thin air

[hidden mural]

Huh

[golden burrow]

it doesn't consume your valley 4 stock

[hidden mural]

Oh that's nice then

[jovial breach]

btw

are we getting 4 more forge

or 4 forge limit

[golden burrow]

4 total forge

[jovial breach]

damn

[golden burrow]

+2

[jovial breach]

sucks ass

[golden burrow]

final wuling update is no forge limit

trust

[jovial breach]

are we also getting the higher tier of xiranite?

or it's still xiranite

[golden burrow]

next patch?

is there even a next tier for xiranite

[jovial breach]

i heard so from datamine

[golden burrow]

i assume it's more like normal ore ie orig ferro

[golden burrow]

are you sure this datamine is trustworthy

[jovial breach]

or it might be a sidegrade to xiranite

for some kind of niche usage

[golden burrow]

we're getting new tier of battery sure

but the raw xira idk

[jovial breach]

must have something to do with the new gear update

[golden burrow]

that's

copium ore

[jovial breach]

copium what

[golden burrow]

the red ore

that's not xiranite

like are you sure there's going to be new xiranite??

that sounds... idk fake ig

[jovial breach]

i mean it's datamine

it's in the game file

but we just dont know when

[golden burrow]

can you give me a source on that?

[jovial breach]

could be next next patch

[fervent stratus]

Go check out that wall at Originium Science Park with ores on it. The name should be there.

It's not Xiranite

[golden burrow]

ferrium copium aggaritcluster

i know it by heart man

[golden burrow]

ye that's why i'm confused

[fervent stratus]

You are sure there is an ore named Copium? lol

[golden burrow]

what is new xiranite

[golden burrow]

cuprium and i'm calling it copium bc it's funny

bro doesn't understand humor 😔

[jovial breach]

yeah there is a new ore