aic-factory

[craggy whale]

ending word with express

[marble marsh]

Idk about y'all but I love seeing when this cuz it means I make more than I use and that's always good right

[somber snow]

well it depends,
did you hit the storage cap. for ur batteries too?

[marble marsh]

Not yet I'm at 4k out of 18 started producing other stuff to make as well

I kept selling them

[somber snow]

try to allocate ur xiranite to making batteries and maybe xira. comps too,
if u're still full, make liquid xiranite or something

[hollow drum]

holy based

[marble marsh]

Besides a single depot buss upgrade and some stuff from stock thing I have everything in wuling maxed

[hollow drum]

im 2 years due a mat/pad upgrade and also 3 years due a keyboard customization but idk who to get

so my whole setup is just black

[somber snow]

what about the artifices?

[craggy whale]

[marble marsh]

I have been running extremely low on bottles since I started production on the other 2 things I can sell in wuling

[hollow drum]

you could try 6/m batteries, 3/m xnite comp

[marble marsh]

I make about 6 of the wuling batteries and use about 2 per minute

[somber snow]

thats quite low

[marble marsh]

Also managed to drag my power usage down from 1.75k to 1.61k cuz I found out higher tier drills don't have more yield

My old power usage be funny

Also green river

Old screenshot btw

Higher tier drills should yield more ore or drill faster if ya ask me

[candid quartz]

is moving 1500 ferrium from v4 to wuling the most u can do? isnt that like 25/min?

thats just under enough to run a single line

[frail trail]

You can manually transfer ferrium over

[warm agate]

yes

[candid quartz]

[warm agate]

we move that ferrium because not enough prod in wuling yet anyway

[small creek]

its actually decent 🥹

[frail trail]

Tho tbh it's not worth, 115 ferrium ore for syringe+ 7.5 wuling bat is enough to outpace outpost

[small creek]

transfer 48k ferrium once, enough to last a week and a bit more

it isnt worth yes, unless.. you wanna stockpile batt for 1.1

[warm agate]

only spend 30 mins in dijiang doing this

[small creek]

which, well i kinda wanna do

[small creek]

more like 10 mins

light work

[frail trail]

Watch as the new outpost use some fuck ass stuff like jincao bottle

To lvl up

[warm agate]

i dont have any ferrium left in v4 anyway, opti production took it all

[small creek]

you can do 17/18 and have 60k ferrium extra every day

[warm agate]

they use both so far though

[small creek]

instead of the usual 18/18

[warm agate]

also we have new ore so new batteries...

[frail trail]

New battery uses 4 lines of dense ori and ferrium powder+water

Or smth like that

[candid quartz]

do you not need 2 planting units per seed picking when wuling water planters are involved?

[warm agate]

liquid xiranite + ferrium powder

kek

[frail trail]

It looks like clean water going into the reactor in the aic pv

[warm agate]

no only one

provided you use jincao/yazhen

[frail trail]

No, you get 2 plants for every seed

[frail trail]

Have 1 outpit going back into seed picker and the other one go into grinding

[hollow drum]

you can move to 1 full battery this way

[candid quartz]

ah they output 2 plants for 1 seed

[hollow drum]

lowest battery usage in wuling (1/min) is 1.8k cap

[frail trail]

Wait a minute

[warm agate]

sadly my ziplines/rigs keep me from going under

[uneven kestrel]

what would u guys do if your AIC clogged?

[warm agate]

so i gave up on it and use 2

[small creek]

clogged means nothing

[frail trail]

Do nothing

[small creek]

idling is the real problem

if your clogging but no idling, everything is fine

[warm agate]

see if i have an use for clogged resources otherwise nothing

[frail trail]

Could remove that production line if it's something unimportant like bombs or cryston component

[somber snow]

there are multiple reasons why it would clog,

1. uve hit the storage cap,
2. the other belt is not feeding any material into the unit
3. wrong mats

it just depends on what it is

[simple solar]

Im trying to get more power rn for my AIC factory but i keep runjing out of originium and i can never regain the originium because of all the power used so like how do i stop losing originium?

[warm agate]

4. The production line is turned off

[lusty violet]

make batteries, they're much more efficient

[real crescent]

personally i like the current way cos it means every drill has a use.
if mk2 would be a pure upgrade over mk1, mk1 would be just as a pointless addition to the game as zipline pylons are once you unlock towers

[real crescent]

originium is straight up ass for power

[frail trail]

Cut down on some machine running originium, build more electric mining rig, craft battery

[warm agate]

i mean its called MK2

its literally supposed to be an upgrade not another version

[frail trail]

Have you seen terminator?

[warm agate]

so it stands to reason it should be improved

[real crescent]

it is an upgrade in that it can mine more things

[warm agate]

like how chips/drives became more efficient while becoming smaller

[frail trail]

Probably because mk1 is already mining at 100% efficiency and mk2 just has a different drill bit

Or smth like that

[warm agate]

tbf next upgrade has to at least be more efficient

[somber snow]

if u want the mk2s to be better,
theyve gotta make the outposts produce more,
and give us more things to buy in v4

cuz then its pointless

unless u literally jsut wanna stock up on everything

wuling would be the same in the future

[frail trail]

Maybe they will give us multi layer belt like that one building in the hub

[somber snow]

yes, id like that

rn, the closing thing we have is a belt bridge

[frail trail]

3d factory building is gonna go crazy fr fr

[lusty violet]

-# flash backs to dyson sphere program spaghetti

[somber snow]

we technically have 3d factory already with the pipes

[real crescent]

i wonder if they are gonna go full 3d at some point

[warm agate]

technically it is 3d if you dont use top view kek

[simple solar]

What should i use instead?

[real crescent]

my guess is probably no. due to being a gacha and wanting to reach a larger audience, im expecting this to not really try to go beyond babies first factory game

[warm agate]

batteries, even the lowest ones

[real crescent]

make batteries, they give massively more power.

[simple solar]

Do batteries alao require this aic stuff 💔💔💔

[warm agate]

any battery is better than even 3 power banks on originium

[somber snow]

yes

[warm agate]

yeah

its easy to produce tho

[verbal lintel]

you can use originium early on, i did a splitter setup into 2 that i put on my useless space on outposts
but once you can start making a ton of batteries you should replace the originium with batteries

not only do you want your originium somewhere else its also not space efficient to use originium for power

[warm agate]

you can even replace immediately

the moment you produce like 5 batteries

because the line produces more while it consumes

[rotund shoal]

Whats new in next update for the factory part

[warm agate]

more mats, likely more RDM and thus nodes/purity

might finally run 18 batt 12 syringes and comps on the side

[rotund shoal]

New drills and ores?

[marble marsh]

Ye didn't ya see the trailer?

[rotund shoal]

Nope too busy

[marble marsh]

Fair enough

Even though I work a lot I still have a lot of free time left

Most of Wich go into either aimlessly looking for chests and other things or making my factory a little less confusing to look at

[real crescent]

yes, also waste water, better wuling batteries, and new gear components

[marble marsh]

Pray those new parts don't take a ton of origium to make cuz I'm already nearing the red numbers with it as it is

I don't like red numbers

[rotund shoal]

Time to dump waste water

[marble marsh]

It's becoming more and more satisfactory lol what next we get to build up into the sky or something (I will do a lets game it out)

[viral wharf]

It looks like it just takes the new Refinery with Water. But we'll have to deal with a Sewage byproduct.

[stoic lark]

maybe something to do with gas and condensation, also air pollution byproduct when

[viral wharf]

Feels easier to cap on Ferrium than Originium rn though.

[sage vector]

Hmm do i need to changr my thermal strat here

To get 12/1

[real crescent]

copper stuff + xiranite so most likely its gonna be fine

[viral wharf]

What the, how're you at 6 Jincao Drink/min and 6 Yazhen Syringe/min with only 120 Ferrium/min?

[real crescent]

currently 1/8th is going to the bank. for 1/12 make one of the splitter be a three way

[real crescent]

manual labour

[sage vector]

I did some manual

To get bottles from valley

[spark hedge]

1500 ferr from valey per hour mean 25 fer/min

[somber snow]

looks like you want to stock up for the next update

which is kinda pointless, but whatever

[sage vector]

Yep

Stocking up to level right away

[real crescent]

the humble outpost credit generation speed:

[viral wharf]

Ik, but making those 2 medicines at full speed should take 240 Ferrium/min.

[somber snow]

yknow, what u shudve done,
is bring hc batteries, so that u can stock up on wuling bats instead

to instantly lvl up

[spark hedge]

No, u are wrong

Only need 120

[viral wharf]

We aren't getting a new Outpost till 1.2 iirc lol

[spark hedge]

Wait

[sage vector]

Outpost level?

[real crescent]

they are bringing bottles over, not ferrium

[spark hedge]

What do u mean 2 med

[viral wharf]

I'm making 5.75 Yazhen Syringes/min and it's taking 115 Ferrium/min.

[sage vector]

This

[marble yarrow]

At least wuling depot can be leveled = more storage

[viral wharf]

Oh you mean that, gotcha

[sage vector]

Im still trying to figure it out ngl xd

[real crescent]

i mean its not like having a stockpile allows you to level up quicker

[sage vector]

Also stock redistribution

[viral wharf]

Make sure to switch to someone with Prosperity before you do it. Unless you pull Tangtang which is highly likely to be 3/3 for that Outpost.

[sage vector]

Avy should be nice

[real crescent]

the main limiting factors is gonna be how quickly the outpost generates credits

[marble yarrow]

Just time it so that your stock bill maxes exactly at the update

[viral wharf]

Shouldn't we let the Outpost stock up on Credits in that case too?

[sage vector]

Yeah lol i should stop like buying 3 days prior

I mean selling

To outpost

For now im like 200k wuling bills lmao

[marble yarrow]

I should be stocking up orig ore, dust, and cube shitty depot size

[sage vector]

Need to get more bills as well

[viral wharf]

Yeah, but that still would only cut 25 Ferrium/min out.

Each Tier 1 Wuling Healing Item takes 20 Ferrium to craft. 12/min would make that 12/min × 20 = 240/min.
Minus the 12.5 Bottles/min would make it 215/min.

[sage vector]

Oh my regional transfer is ferrium parts

Then i manually get bottles

From valley

Using djiang transfer

[marble yarrow]

[sage vector]

My wuling base

[spark hedge]

I like this kind of base more

@sage vector

[sage vector]

Im not gonna ckean my base for now lol

[marble marsh]

Y'all wouldn't like my base

[somber snow]

show it

[marble marsh]

I'm not even gonna show it cuz I'm certain I'ma get yelled at

[lusty violet]

we're nice

[somber snow]

i dont think ppl do that here

[marble marsh]

My base is horificly inefficient compared to y'all and I'm probably doing a lot of things wrong

[somber snow]

thats ok

[marble marsh]

Also I'm currently cooking food so I can't open the game right now

[zinc forum]

ooo base showcase

[marble marsh]

Ya boy is making a typical Dutch meal

[sleek bison]

Does this mean i cant create more of those loop thingy

[vapid dock]

it takes 74.5 hours for the stock bill savings to cap out, 3.1 days. So stop selling before patch to immediately get outpost to lv3.

[somber snow]

yes

[rain maple]

Idk if this is common knowledge or not, but 24/min Canned Citrome C is not the maximized profitability in Valley IV. It's actually 23/min Canned Citrome C and 2/min LC Valley Battery.

For that you do some splliting on the Originium Ore and Amethyst Ore to use 20/min Originium Ore and 10/min Amethyst Ore for the Battery, and run one of the Canned Citrome C lines with 20/min Amethyst Ore instead of 30/min.

[marble marsh]

I'ma just cap my batteries

[somber snow]

probably becuz it doesnt rly matter at this point

[vapid dock]

Uh yeah thats what stop selling means

[rain maple]

If anyone has a better production plan pls do lmk!

[vapid dock]

limiting factor of getting a dump of prosperity isn't item count its available stock outpost credits

[rain maple]

I wanted to maximize so I was doing a bit of thinking

Many people use 4x Canned Citrome C with the unused Amethyst. I wanted to maximize the Originium Ore usage myself

[lusty violet]

is that a better use of ori or that 18.67/17.67 HC/buck a or whatever thing

[rain maple]

Where is this from? I'd like to see

[lusty violet]

https://discordapp.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466043358509273349

[rain maple]

0.67 HC/min?

[sleek bison]

Guess i cant maximize empty spaces now with chen loops

[lusty violet]

i think 18.67 is bit higher, since HC gives more bill/raw material

[small creek]

wow, ill do this for fun, thanks

[lusty violet]

haven't looked into it much because i don't bother optimizing that way, so

[somber snow]

im too busy beautifying my base for that sort of stuff

[rain maple]

You have to use splitters and convergers for the amethyst and originium ore, to make the usage from 30/min to 10/min or 20/min. It's fun

[small creek]

im not even gonna do it for profit, im doing it for more power lmao

[rain maple]

I'm rn working on a battery maxmization calculator

Using the splitter tactic to maximize battery usage by letting the grid go red for a bit

[somber snow]

thats just DIGE

[rain maple]

Should be just calc the time diff and prime factorize it with 2,3

[hidden temple]

I've already been producing 2/min LC batts purely to use up the remaining unused 20/min ori yield, but just dumped all the remaining ame to produce parts

[sage vector]

If my power is at 2.2k and im delaying it for 80/batt will i get 12/1? Or nah

[zinc forum]

me placing this down in advance

[sage vector]

[rain maple]

I'll have to calc and see, I'll do it later

[somber snow]

(40surplus/deficit)+40=x

for anyone that want to modulate their power

wait, is this not applicable?

[rain maple]

Making HC batteries might be power intensive compared to LC batteries, which is very very less power

[tribal garnet]

I have 12 /12 /24/18 but the 12/12 is citro and buck capsule the last ones

[somber snow]

@raw pollen

[zinc forum]

lol

[rain maple]

I don't understand LMAO

[tribal garnet]

Scam

[tribal garnet]

Why?

[sage vector]

How do we properly calculate this? I just count literally lol

[rain maple]

Oh nvm I didn't even see the other SS

[tribal garnet]

Thats the optimal one right now

For me atleast

[rain maple]

Idk why I didn't see it, maybe coz I scrolled past the spam

[rain maple]

Yeah I understood why I was confused. You reported the theoretical data, not current

[somber snow]

uh, apparently,
subtract your power yield with ur usage,
this is ur surplus,

for ur deficit,
remove 1 battery that u're using,
when your energy is in the red,
subtract the power u need with the power u have,

put those numbers in,
and the symbol x, is the amount of seconds
which means, how long u can go on for b4 u need another battery

[rain maple]

But that's for complete discharge. Are you accounting for the charging time too?

[vapid dock]

whats the total storage capacity of wuling

[tribal garnet]

40k

[sage vector]

45 or 48 iirc

[rain maple]

48k

[sage vector]

There 48k

[somber snow]

it worked for me,
when i did it, it wasnt a complete discharge,
it went down to 85%, then it charged back up to 100

[rain maple]

So it does account for that

[sage vector]

Thats 12/1?

[rain maple]

Yeah my factory rn goes down to 80% and goes back up to 100%

[somber snow]

idk, ud have to put ur own numbers in and see

[verbal lintel]

is it just me or do the simulations tend to require weird stuff for bonus goals, forcing you to use unorthodox methods like cutting off power supply temporarily to sync your machines

[tribal garnet]

Theres gon be trimmed medals for doing the factory simulations manually

[sage vector]

Lemme check mine rq

[tribal garnet]

Im cooked

[rain maple]

Okay it does, that's the 40 factor in the formula

[verbal lintel]

specifically ones that appear to be calculated by prod/min

which should be 5

however the requirement of 3 keeps buffering between 2 and 3 for each

[vapid dock]

isn't there a site specifically for battery minmaxing https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en
not that I know how to use it

[tribal garnet]

Yall tryna min max wuling battery?
Bruh i just put Purple battery everyday

And sell wuling battery

[vapid dock]

I just split 1.5 to 0.75 its enough

[tribal garnet]

Wuling aic can last 24 hrs with just 6k purple battery

Considering i dont need valley credits that much im fine sacrificing that much just for wuling

[rain maple]

Pretty much what I was tryna build. Nice it exists

[somber snow]

the concept is,
if u power ur thermals normally,
they use a battery every 40s,
u want to increase that timer as mcuh as possible,
to the point where ur energy is in the red,
and u start using energy reserves,

once a battery is fed into a thermal,
not only does it power the factory,
it also recharges the AIC back to 100%,

so it makes full use of the batteries,
wasting less

[spark hedge]

Just use 2 battery/min, simple as that

[vapid dock]

because you can still get a surplus of items without any manual transfer whatsoever, while capping out bills, while also making enough weekly components

[tribal garnet]

I just use purple batteries for my wuling aic.
It takes 6k batteries for like 24+ hrs

[somber snow]

modulating batteries is unnecessary,
this is for fun

but for early game, or early factories,
this is huge

[tribal garnet]

I think i have max compenents slr lol

[rain maple]

Weekly components?

[tribal garnet]

Just manual transfer purple batteries and sell euling batteries

[vapid dock]

you're gated by artificing so you don't need more than 3000 components a week

[tribal garnet]

For wuling bills

[tribal garnet]

I have 48k capped rn and i made it into battery so

[rain maple]

Ohh

[somber snow]

some ppl dont like doing manual stuff,
so this is another option

[rain maple]

I just made 48k and then stopped

[tribal garnet]

Same lol

[somber snow]

it doesnt even take that much time

[tribal garnet]

Yup

[rain maple]

But yeah that makes sense, I'll design a base, and put a control port, tyvm

[somber snow]

im talking about modulating,
not transfering

[marble yarrow]

Me also having 48k comps, xiranite, and battery 💀 i need my depot level

[tribal garnet]

Why are u stocking xiranite,and battery

Go sell em

For more wuling money

[cinder sun]

iruha26: You currently have 8140 points.

[tribal garnet]

Damn

[marble yarrow]

Do you think im not selling?

[tribal garnet]

Watch it jojo

I have like 20k battery after 24 hrs

And sell em

[vapid dock]

my production is specifically fine tuned for the needed weekly components plus stock bills, happy with that (I'll be caught dead before I do any manual transfer)

[marble yarrow]

I've created my max wuling fairly early so now im just redirecting productions everyday

[tribal garnet]

Same for jincao

Tbf i used to do 3 xiranite component every second now im maxed im doing noje

[somber snow]

smh,
noone here's stocking up bats for 1.1

[vapid dock]

stocking bats doesn't matter because you're gated by outpost stockbills not items

just stop selling 3 days before patch

[marble yarrow]

Im stocking up both wuling LC and mats for new battery btw

I have 48k in all these: carbon (base, powder, cube, stabilized), orig (ore, 2 powder variant, 2 cube variant), sandleaf and powder, xiranite and lc wuling

Good thing we have proto stashes

Also im just starting to fill the 40k pool for liquid xiranite

Since new batt also need it

[vapid dock]

im gonna fill it with sewage water in the next patch, there's not enough pollution

[rain maple]

What is this?

[crude nebula]

me too, i emptied it just todys

[vapid dock]

city too clean, too unrealistic

[rain maple]

Idk where that is, I haven't explored as much

[marble yarrow]

The deep multi-level hole on southwest wuling city

North of depot node

[crude nebula]

i even set 80 Tanks BP just to empty 40k Jincao Solution

[rain maple]

Oh that

I need to explore that area haha

[marble yarrow]

Im gonna use the new 200-meter underground pipe to fetch it back

[somber snow]

with 4 pumps,
it takes about 3-4 hours to drain

[cursive oasis]

I left it overnight with two.

[somber snow]

neat

[marble yarrow]

Now i will have to compress my main aic to fit more proto stash lmaoo

My sub pac has 200 stash already and is nearly full

[rain maple]

LMAO but why

[vapid dock]

the 40k sidequest is a litmus test for people who either listened to the tutorials or have basic problem solving skills

[sage vector]

Is it this one?

[rain maple]

What extra are you storing more than the depot size that you'll ever need more of?

[sage vector]

Ahh nvm its the side quest

[vapid dock]

there were too many complaints that they had to build 200+ fluid tanks

[somber snow]

i cant see how pumping water out would be difficult,
but i have met some very dense ppl here

[vapid dock]

instead of redirecting the water to the river

[somber snow]

this

tianjing courtyard

[rain maple]

One lonely PAC chilling in the corner

[sage vector]

I firgot to remove em lmao

[somber snow]

mine just looks like this

[nova lodge]

AIC.....the most ignored building.

[sage vector]

Ok got the 12/1

[cursive oasis]

I didn't think about making it criss-cross at the time of setting up mine and now I'm lazy to redo it. Not to mention I don't have a reason either with amount of things you actually need.

[rain maple]

I made my Valley base AIC useful, but the Wuling one is neglected

I should make it useful and have some friends fr

[rain maple]

Splitter?

[somber snow]

redoing my v4 main and 3 outposts took 4 hours,
my wuling took like 2 or 3

[rain maple]

How are you making both Yazhen and Jincao 6/min?

[cursive oasis]

Making intermediates at Hub then send it for final stuffs at sub-PACs.

[rigid burrow]

Can anyone find me the usage rate here?

[spring hatch]

does anybody know how to make a kill chamber in wuling ? i put down pipe spliters but some of them pass through it

[rigid burrow]

kill chamber?

[somber snow]

wth is a kill chamber

is this minecraft or something

[lusty violet]

2.5/min xiranite into reactor crucible?

[spring hatch]

like enemies cant get out but turrets hits them

[rigid burrow]

damn how do i make it under 1/min

[lusty violet]

split it off more

[somber snow]

i know, but thats not possible in this game

unless u get them stuck on terrain

[rigid burrow]

Z and go to this one

[rigid burrow]

OOF

[spring hatch]

i have seen people doing it but i dont remember how

[lusty violet]

are u aiming for exactly 1/min or just less

[rigid burrow]

less

[lusty violet]

not bad then, yea just throw more splitters i think

[rigid burrow]

the last one in facilities menu

also to use them run a power line to them

[cursive oasis]

I think I saw this question before and people said you need to make kill chamber larger otherwise enemies start phasing through your splitter tubes.

[small creek]

guys can someone check how much 1 LC valley battery is

[rigid burrow]

this is more compact but has 1/min ye?

[rigid burrow]

1 sec

[lusty violet]

16 bills iirc

[small creek]

16? thank u

[spring hatch]

yup thats what i mean i dont want them to come out of the space i do and start hitting me i already put down 13 turrets

[rigid burrow]

16

[spring hatch]

which is max in wuling

[lusty violet]

if ur output is bottom left, that's only 7.5/min? 2*2

oh sry wrong person

[small creek]

tyanks guys

[rigid burrow]

OH

sry for caps

[cursive oasis]

All I know is that you just use splitter tubes spammed one next to the other and make box fairly big, but not too big.

[rigid burrow]

then i think the xiranite compont output is 1/min

ok ty

[spring hatch]

that didnt worked out sadly

[rigid burrow]

What about now

[rain maple]

How are you guys getting 12/min of Jincao/Yazhen products in Wuling?

[lusty violet]

yea, 0.625/min it looks like

im assuming ur targeting whatevers going into crucible

[rigid burrow]

yes

[marble marsh]

ya know i just realized a perfect 40K spot to dump the filty watter next update

[rigid burrow]

cuz only that is getting used rest gets sent back to depot

[rain maple]

That's 2 production lines, but how do you have enough Ferrium Ore for that? Just one prod line has 120/min usage

[rigid burrow]

am currently filling the irrigation canal we filled when we first came to wuling

[lusty violet]

i think pple are ferrying ferrium from v4 to wuling to supply it

[rain maple]

Yeah with that you get not even 6/min

[marble marsh]

mine is a nice lime collor right now

[rain maple]

You get slightly less than that

[lusty violet]

manual ferrying

no way i do that, but it does work

[rain maple]

Like actually manually take items by clicking?

[lusty violet]

yea on dijiang

[rain maple]

Oh god

No just no

[lusty violet]

maybe can get even higher than 12/min

[rigid burrow]

i though of supplying ferrium bottle from V4 but we will still run out of ferrium in wuling and bottle production

[somber snow]

is it bad that i did manually transfer xiranite to v4 to make components

[rigid burrow]

maybe i ma go ship ferrium bottle and bottle neck ferrium bottle in storage

kinda run xiranite components in wuling at 1/min

[cedar phoenix]

With Ferrium Metatransfer from Valley, you can go up until 5.75 syringes/min on Wuling

[rain maple]

Yeah I can't bother with manual stuff. Let the automation and robots take away all the manual jobs! All hail automation!

[verbal lintel]

if i can place machines outside of aic in wuling, cant i just make mini factories outside aic?

[rigid burrow]

what if we meta ferrium bottles?

[cedar phoenix]

same, you can transfer half the bottles

[rigid burrow]

sadly convoyers need to be in AIC area

[somber snow]

u can only place zips and relays,
well turrets too

[rain maple]

Yeah

[somber snow]

in wuling, pumps and the other thing

[rain maple]

Manual ferrying is crazy sanity less behaviour ngl

[verbal lintel]

ah i forgot about that

[somber snow]

oh u can

[verbal lintel]

technically i could stick everything but 1 of each input and output conveyor node for a 1:1 machine

[somber snow]

oh yeah 1 more thing,
u dont have depot busses or AIC

unless u use stashes,
but thats a hassle

[real crescent]

you can place machines outside but they dont have any inputs/dont work

[verbal lintel]

i have to construct it partially in aic anyway

because i require conveyors

[rigid burrow]

hehe Fangyi gonna jump when she found xiranite in her crops

[real crescent]

you can however use them for exploration

[somber snow]

it cant be partially,
it has to be completely in

otherwise, u cant place belts

[real crescent]

theres some oob stuff that relies on thermal banks and reactor crucibles

[verbal lintel]

oh so just a stepping block

well i guess only easy stash is worth carrying around then

[rigid burrow]

I ma fill every place in Wuling with xiranite now

[verbal lintel]

which actually can already be placed anywhere iirc

[sage vector]

Ermmm

[real crescent]

easy stash needs power to function

which imo makes it fairly useless

[marble marsh]

there is a 40K pool ya can fill i think (dont know if ya can fill it after draining it)

[real crescent]

you can fill it again

[rain maple]

I'm more curious about your Yazhen/Jincao productions. Manually moving Ferrium Bottles?

[vague topaz]

yes you can

[sage vector]

Here

[verbal lintel]

you could bring batteries (at this point just go to a tp point)
however im pretty sure you can use easy stashes as a stepping stone

[marble marsh]

im def using it for wastewatter then next update

[sage vector]

I did meta from. Valley

[vague topaz]

i place easy stash next to every recycling station and energy alluvium

[somber snow]

personally, i dont see the use of making small factories outside of AICs,
u have more than enough space,
we dont have enough ores to even need more factories

[rigid burrow]

there is a way to find

[rigid burrow]

can you kindly map the area?

[somber snow]

u can

[marble marsh]

its the tianjing courtyard

[rain maple]

So you meta Ferrium Bottles? But still how are you getting 6/min all the time? Coz each line of these drinks need 120/min Ferrium Ore. It doesn't seem like you can Meta and still meet the hypothetical 240/min requirement

[somber snow]

imagine they manually mine ferrium in wuling

and they have a stash there as well

[dense wyvern]

Manual transfer the extra stuff you need.

[nova lodge]

AK endfield -> minecraft ;3

[somber snow]

for 6/min sure,
but the guy's making both jincao and yazhen at 6/min each

[dense wyvern]

Transfer moar.

[rain maple]

Yeah I don't think you can meta only to meet the 240/min usage

[dense wyvern]

Manual transfer all day everyday

[rain maple]

Also my Valley IV has 1080/min Ferrium Ore usage LMAO

[somber snow]

endfield is just like minecraft,
except there's no slavery

let me capture some bonekrushers and force them to do manual labor

its the least they can do

[cursive oasis]

Hell yeah, I stabilized my Ferrum without cutting production as much as I expected.

[dense wyvern]

A few weeks ago I'd be pushed to optimize. But it's still like a week till next patch.

So optimization feels kinda pointless at this point.

[sage vector]

Im also doing regional transfer on parts

[rain maple]

What's your product generation rate?

[dense wyvern]

I even manual transferred extra wuling batteries to Valley.

[rain maple]

You can do regional and meta at a time?

[dense wyvern]

If I keep doing it, I could max out both Wuling and Valley 4 storage of wuling batteries.

[sage vector]

Djiang transfer is meta right

Meta storage

[rain maple]

No that's manual

Metatransfer is diff

[sage vector]

Yeah thats what im doing i manually transfer bottles

[rain maple]

Ahh

[sage vector]

Regional transfer parts

I make bottles in valley

[verbal lintel]

any suggestions on this?

[rain maple]

So you produce less in Valley IV and redirect manually to Wuling

[cursive oasis]

Well, now it is 1-2/m (fluctuates in stats).

[sage vector]

Also making bottles in Wuling at the same time

[rain maple]

How many bottles do you need btw and at what intervals?

[dense wyvern]

Check the recipe of the planter. It's different from Valley 4 plants.

[sage vector]

Atm i just put 2k testing for now

Ima go sleep in a bit and see

[sage vector]

Put a timer maybe lmao

[rain maple]

Yeah makes sense. I'd say make any one or split both, but use meta transfer of Ferrium Ore from Valley IV. 1500/h free

[rain maple]

Ahh okay

Please do lmk

[sage vector]

If i dont forget xd

[rain maple]

If I can do this like once every 12h or smth, maybe I'll do it if I have time

[dense wyvern]

Wuling plants you only need 1 planter and 1 seeder.

[cedar phoenix]

you know you only need 1 planter for Wuling plants right ?

[verbal lintel]

ah yeah i forgot pipes have an extremely high output, ty for this

[cursive oasis]

I just shut-off one of the depots to get equal spending. If I open it back up I go to 2-3/m, but even with Regional it is at a deficit.

[rigid burrow]

well the water aint gonna move it self

[sage vector]

Now where to put liquid xyranite

[verbal lintel]

oh its 1:1

i might need to execute myself

[cursive oasis]

Woo boi, now I do.

[marble marsh]

at least accept the quest

[rigid burrow]

NO!

[marble marsh]

do it ya need to drain that stuff for it anyway

also big chest down there

[verbal lintel]

any improvements for this?

[somber snow]

a lot of things can be improved here

[dense wyvern]

It'll work.

You could reduce space taken but it's not a big deal

[sage vector]

Do it like this and reuce space

[dense wyvern]

It really isn't a big deal considering how much space we have.

[sage vector]

But yeah

[cedar phoenix]

this is for Wuling plants, not theirs

[sage vector]

[verbal lintel]

i see
this could be stacked diagonally

[rigid burrow]

keep planting,seeding,planting in such a way where seeding output is facing same dir as seeding

[verbal lintel]

i am growing wuling plants i just dont have it connected

[cedar phoenix]

you haven't put your planter in water mode then

[verbal lintel]

it is, the pipe is just really faint

[cedar phoenix]

oh right

i'm blind

[sage vector]

2356 2:15am time to sleep and see in about 5 hours @rain maple

[somber snow]

maybe something like this for ur plants

[verbal lintel]

ill have to find something to do with the mini diagonal space
or if i really cant i might just stack them and waste the space anyway

[somber snow]

im too lazy to take a better picture

[sage vector]

Just alight them both?

[verbal lintel]

hmm i see, ty

i havent unlocked xiranite though, ill use this later

[somber snow]

oh u can ignore that,
i meant to show only the planters and pickers

[sage vector]

I need to bit 48k batteries asap

Then farm xiranite to make liquid xiranite :/

[dense wyvern]

I think I'm gonna start storing Xiranite in Valley.

[rigid burrow]

do i have to run pipeline from AIC to courtyard to fill it?

[sage vector]

Yeah lol

[somber snow]

no

[sage vector]

Wait what

[dense wyvern]

That's probably enough Wuling Batteries for now.

[somber snow]

@raw pollen

[sage vector]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1qr5eak/theres_nothing_stopping_you_from_filling_the_pond/

How do we fill the pond without connecting it?

[somber snow]

use the stash(not protocol stash),
build a fluid tank, continously fill it,
the connect it to a water dispenser

[sage vector]

Oohhh

[somber snow]

or whatever that is called,
that should work

unless my memory is failing me and u cant put bottles in tanks

u shud try

[sage vector]

Fill it with xiranite?

[somber snow]

yes

[sage vector]

Ima test that

[rigid burrow]

like fill fluid tank with xiranite and later have a fluid tank near pond to drain it?

[sage vector]

The stash is connected to depot right

[somber snow]

what no, this is to fill the hole with xiranite

if u want to drain it,
just dump the water directly into the river nearby

[rigid burrow]

I am draining the water near by river though

[somber snow]

then wdym by draining

[rigid burrow]

what i am thinking off is how do i filling xiranite without running pipeline from AIC to courtyard

[somber snow]

wait

do u mean a pond, or that big giant hole with a bunch of chests in it?

[rigid burrow]

no

lemme show you

[somber snow]

i thought we were talking about the 1 in tijiang courtyard

[rigid burrow]

this is where ii am drainng water

now how do i fill courtyard with xiranite

[somber snow]

what ive said earlier

have a production back at AIC for bottled xiranite,
make a stash near there(not protocal stash),
have a fluid tank, then u shove the bottles in it,
then connect the tank to 1 of those things dispensing water,
into whatver hole u want to fill

@sage vectordoes it work?

[sage vector]

I havent tried im about to sleep haha maybe later

[somber snow]

eh

[cursive oasis]

Sweet, it is now super compact.

[rigid burrow]

damn now i have to wait ages

[hidden temple]

just wait faster

[rigid burrow]

chen and her last brain cell

[rigid burrow]

it does continue when i leave the game ye?

[uneven sand]

if i have to make a product with a 2:3 ratio should I just have 2 sources of one mat and 3 of the other or go for 1:2 ratio?

[lone pebble]

its hard to say i want ! 4out of 6 bat line ! right ! :)) couse your question has many varriables ! sence 1line is ussing at less 4-5-6 prod lines !

[viral wharf]

Depends on the rate that it crafts. For example, if it needs 10 + 15 mats per 10s, then you need 1/s of the 1st mat and 1.5/s of the 2nd mat. The standard rate of most machines that run at 2s rates is 0.5/s.

[open hull]

Eh

[cursive oasis]

Rearranged some stuff and now I got 3/m for each. Sweet.

[viscid plover]

5400 LETS GOOOO

[keen badge]

I have no idea what else we'll use this for other than blight cleanup (and filling that 40k deep hole)
But it's still worth keeping a stockpile on-site I guess? 🤔 🤷

[lone pebble]

1.1 , mining rigs !

[keen badge]

liquid xiranite for mining rigs? 👀
oof getting those pipes to the mining site from the production area will be fun 😅

[real crescent]

liquid xiranite? its used for the next battery type

mix it with sewage, than mix the result with ferrum powder

[lone pebble]

they will be undergrond 🙂

[real crescent]

the mining rigs take just water

[lone pebble]

Nuc , launch detected :))

[cursive oasis]

Just about anything might use it later on, even high level medicine. We'll know when update comes, though I don't think stockpile would be particularly useful if it's gonna be part of an active production line.

[viral wharf]

So far storage hasn't really had any use tbh

Aside from those that want to keep more beyond their depot

[lament turtle]

She’s just very energetic and likes to train at all times, even if it involves running in place.

[shy jay]

any min maxxed blue prints out there for space efficiency? i was using iwintolose's bps for a bit with a few tweaks

[spiral frost]

Can anybody help me optimize my battery production? I'm not sure how to juggle the little xiranite income with the cost of batteries without draining my supply. I'm trying to make profit on batteries while also using them to power my factory. Maybe some creenshots of someones factory who has it figured out? Or tips and pointers? Anything would be great.

[marble yarrow]

how much xiranite are you producing

[spiral frost]

60/min

when I try attaching something like a protocol stash or input port to the wuling batt production, it goes down to 30/min

[marble yarrow]

you should already be producing enough batteries for selling and consumption with that number

[spiral frost]

how do you have yours set up? I'm probably doing something silly

[marble yarrow]

i send xiranite from 2 forges directly to depot and fetch them later for battery

[spiral frost]

Ok I see it now

I dont have my dense powder done well

[marble yarrow]

yeah if dont match ratios your production will be lower

[spiral frost]

I'm starting to realize how important stuff like that is

[marble yarrow]

like, for battery. you need 3 dense for every xiranite

[spiral frost]

thanks for the help. I'll see how this affects things 👍

[keen badge]

[Wuling, pipes]
What are the best practices so facilities don't go thirsty?
One pump & pipeline per facility?
Or can I hook up a Forge of the Sky and a farm (e.g. Jincao) on the same pipe?
( or one crucible + a farm )?

[viral wharf]

1 Pump per 2 Facilities (as of right now).

[keen badge]

Any two facilities? 🤔
Or their consumptions are weighted somewhat (e.g. if the forge consumes more than a basic farm)?

Or forge + crucible

[viral wharf]

All facilities atm consume water at 1/s. Pumps supply water at 2/s.

This might change with 1.1 though, idk

[marble yarrow]

as long as your forge reactor crucible doesnt run double-formula, since it will count as 2 usage

crucible, i mean

[spiral frost]

so for forges I can have a split pipe leading to both, correct?

[marble yarrow]

yeah. 1 pump for 2 forges

[spiral frost]

k, thanks

[marble yarrow]

can also do this

[spiral frost]

two pumps converging into one pipe so you can split it four times?

[marble yarrow]

yes. but IF the splitter is configured as mine, you will have to "preload" each facility with water before making products

[spiral frost]

makes sense. Good idea

would make my facility look a little prettier

[leaden drift]

or....

[zealous moat]

Will someone please explain which factory units I need to put liquid xiranite into which bottle to get rid of blight Skill issue for 4 hours.

Is it steel bottle

And fluid tanks?

[spiral frost]

[keen badge]

once you got the xiranite, you route it to a reaction crucible
the crucible will also need water
route the output (liquid xiranite) to a filling unit
put in the bottles, it'll fill them up for you (ferrium, steel bottle, either will do)

[leaden drift]

even amethysy

[spiral frost]

probably

might as well try it

[zealous moat]

Thanks peeps

[dense hemlock]

You can fill bottles manually from a liquid xiranite storage tank. Unfortunately, I don’t remember which bottles are required.

[dense hemlock]

Apparently all of them.

[austere dune]

it depends how cheap you want to be

[viral wharf]

Amethyst Bottles would be the most convenient

[zealous moat]

Thanks I figured it out, I'll adjust when I feel the need to

[keen badge]

I so don't have the ferrium to keep this up 🤣
Two double formula crucibles (both at wuling and at the sub PAC)
Maybe as the region unlocks more deposits and the purity improves

[marble yarrow]

the empire is rising

[spiral token]

Need help with this....can someone share their blueprint code ?

[fiery cliff]

Nice and easy one for you. Go to your aic outputs and choose 2. Make one orignium ore and one amethyst ore. Connect each of these to a refining unit to get origocrust and amethyst fibre. Then connect both of those into a gearing unit

That's you done

[spiral token]

You see that's the part I'm stuck with for hours

I need blueprint code import

[warm agate]

dont forget an electric pylon to power them

[fiery cliff]

What's got you stuck man, it's 3 machines

[spiral token]

It really confuse me

[fiery cliff]

Here's a really crude diagram

The middle squares are refining units

Bottom rectangle is your gearing unit

Top square is your aic

[spiral token]

Do you guys really enjoy this... people call it factorio?? I think?

[fiery cliff]

I have a very large amount of playtime on factorio

[spiral token]

Nice 👍

[cyan bronze]

i fucking LOVE IT

on launch day i went straight 78 HOURS on factory building

[spiral token]

Nice ...

[fiery cliff]

But yeah, to go from the beginning step by step.

1. Go to your aic and choose 2 output busses next to each other. Make one orignium ore and and one amethyst ore.

2. Put a refining unit down in front of each one. Remember to connect them via belts.

3. Put down the gearing unit and connect 1 output belt from each refining unit into the gearing unit

4. Connect an output from the gearing unit to an aic input so you can stockpile them.

5. Put down a power pylon

[spiral token]

Sigh I wish I was smart as you

[cyan bronze]

it's more mentally ill dedication tbh

but yeah

it's real fun

figuring out stuff

[fiery cliff]

Factory games aren't for everyone my man, don't let yourself get dissuaded from the game because of it. My advice would be to try and engage with it until you really aren't having fun with it anymore, factory gameplay is really rewarding

[spiral token]

I Been stuck for hours doing this damn thing lmao

[fiery cliff]

If you do end up hating it, just progress through the main story till everything is unlocked and then download some meta bp

[spiral frost]

I have a bit of an originium issue....

[spiral token]

Can you guys share your blueprint code ? So I can just umm import it ?

[cyan bronze]

resource cap is still a thing so you do have a lot of wiggle room

for un-optimization

[cyan bronze]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465512615898779810

have fun

[fiery cliff]

The tutorials will help you a lot too. Each one gives a simple BP for what they are truing to teach you to make. Will help carry you through. As long as you know how to make the current gear components, current meds, and a small stockpile of explosives you're set for story progression

[spiral frost]

I made a similar layout for battery optimization that you had and I'm rapidly losing originium. @marble yarrow

[cyan bronze]

@silent violet blueprints are modular as fuck

so it's great

for plug and play

[cyan bronze]

oh yeah Wuling does that

[fiery cliff]

Are you using all your nodes on v4

Oh its wuling

Nvm

I'm a blind man

[spiral token]

Goodness gracious ☠️

[fiery cliff]

@spiral token did you do the tutorial for the gearing unit?

[spiral frost]

help me.

[fiery cliff]

Thar will give you a bp

[spiral frost]

😭

[spiral token]

I think so? Yeah

Funny story I quit it before because of this thing now I'm back

[fiery cliff]

Do you know how to get into the BP menu? When you do there's a tab called something like system blueprints

Something like that

Should have one for amethyst components

[spiral token]

Yea?

[fiery cliff]

You can just plug it in to your aic and set the export busses to the correct ores

[marble yarrow]

of course, you need more mineral nodes. im running double of that and it requires 360/min of originium

[spiral frost]

so how do I get more... I'm like 85% sure I have all of them

I found some more nvm

[fiery cliff]

1. Double check you do have them all
2. Check to see if you're using orignium for anything other than batteries and xiranite comps

That's all you need orignium for on wuling rn

[spiral frost]

I dont even have enough power to make comps along with all the other things

I'm at like 1.79/1.8 rn

[fiery cliff]

Put a battery into a thermal bank

[keen badge]

iirc there should be enough originium to make 1 wuling battery production line at least
re-check the mining areas to be sure
as the region levels up, new deposits can appear that you can put new rigs on (and the purity of existing ones improve)

[fiery cliff]

My entire base plus wuling ziplines is currently at 1.79/1.8 and that's making the most jincao solution and batteries currently possible

[spiral frost]

I have one wuling production line going into thermal

[cyan bronze]

i mean if you don't understand the factory building system you can always do the tutorial simulation, it holds your hand through the process alot but it makes sure that you understand the subject

kinda like how your middle school teacher teaches you stuff i guess

[fiery cliff]

If I'm not using xiranite for anything else like comps or solution, I make 12 batteries per min, and use 1.5 per min for power

Netting 10.5 batteries per min, which is the theoretical max wuling can offer rn based on ore availability

[fiery cliff]

Excellent

[spiral frost]

should I have 2 banks?

[fiery cliff]

If you need more power

Once I'm done doing base defence stuff, I demolish all my turrets to save power

Those cost so much power to run passively

[spiral frost]

I have 0 turrets and such

[fiery cliff]

Ziplines are effectively free power wise

If your base is using 1 thermal bank, and you're making max batteries snd meds, and you've got everything you want on the map, you're fine

[spiral frost]

I have a yazhen syringe production line for money. Should I get rid of this now that I have profit batteries going into my depot?

[fiery cliff]

I'll add another thermal bank when I need the power, if I don't, I just net an extra 1.5 batteries per min

[keen badge]

in my experience 1 packaging unit making batteries can stuff 2x thermal banks full of them and still produce a surplus that can go into the depot
just have multiple belts on the unit's output ports, it'll distribute them evenly (makes one battery for each belt, then circles back)

[fiery cliff]

No, you can sell both

Syringes and batteries don't consume the same resources, so you can run both in tandem

[spiral frost]

power wise tho..

[marble yarrow]

you can have below 1800 power in wuling, at full battery production and syringe/drink with no turrets. idk why you spend extra power. did you put mk2 miners in originium nodes?

or do you have so much powered protocol stash

[spiral frost]

maybe

[fiery cliff]

You'd still make more money using the extra battery every 40s to run your meds. 40s of med production makes more money than 1 battery

[fiery cliff]

Preach

[spiral frost]

which meds are good?

[marble yarrow]

im below 1600 in wuling at max production

[worldly hound]

Can someone help me trough this please

[fiery cliff]

Personal choice. Both sell for the same, so just make the one you also want to use. I prefer jincao cause I like the instant healing, but the syringe is good if you want more overall healing but it comes over time

[fiery cliff]

What are you trying to make

[spiral frost]

does jincao work on operator too?

[fiery cliff]

Yeah

[marble yarrow]

you ran out of power.

you can try to burn originium for thermal banks for the meantime, use the left ports of the AIC

[fiery cliff]

I use jincao myself, because I played v4 with buckflower based meds so um used to their timings, if I did citrome in v4 I'd probably have done yazhen

[worldly hound]

So yesterday I made battery thing to never worry about but then I broke it and I couldn't fix it so I stashed it now nothing works at all

[fiery cliff]

Follow what haruna said

Put orignium ore into a thermal bank

That will kick-start your operation

[worldly hound]

Dude

I'm actually so stupid

[uneven sand]

if explosives need 5 amethyst parts and 1 aketine powder should I have 5 different machine making amethyst or go for a 1:2 ratio?

[keen badge]

2 shredders for the originium powder seem fine
then you need refined.... for basic battery? then refined amethyst (refining unit) and then a fitting unit to make the components that go into the packager

[waxen aurora]

you will eventually get it full so no need

aketine is useless anyways

[worldly hound]

Oh alright thanks for the thank you all actually

[fiery cliff]

Genuinely the only recipe chain where you can say fuck it, and just not even care about it. During the mission to make it, I left it on overnight to fill up my stockpile at the time to 14k. This was on like day 2 of release. I play daily. Right now I still have 13200

[spiral frost]

I hooked up all my origro mining stuff and I'm sitting at 354/360, which should even out after a little while. I got rid of my syringe production line and am going to try and make a energy-savory jincoa meds one.

[uneven sand]

I kinda need it for my daily delivery runs thats why im asking lol

[fiery cliff]

Trust me, you'll very quickly get stuff better than explosives for them

Don't waste your time with them, just make a spaghetti chain to build yourself a stockpile then delete it once you've got a lifetime supply

Once you go to the science park, the type of goods you have access to and will be depot running will change

It genuinely isn't worth your time investing into them, just make a simple chain to build yourself a stockpile then leave it overnight

[marble yarrow]

just use sandleaf powder for delivery

[keen badge]

Tip for the future:
The Database is a massive help to quickly find the "recipe" for just about anything

From the main menu:
Database -> Item Files -> AIC Products

[fiery cliff]

If they are about to just make explosives for the first time they are quite a long way off having sandleaf

Also

I NEED sandleaf endmin

[spiral frost]

?

[true furnace]

The only thing left out in the chain is the ratio

[keen badge]

Yeah, including it in the chain view would help -.-
But it's not far navigation-wise

[spiral frost]

should I need this much sandleaf production? I'm trying to cut back a little...

[true furnace]

Yeah I just stick with tracing backwards from whatever item I want made

[worldly hound]

It worked!!!!

[marble yarrow]

actually you can access it anywhere, as long as you can click the item (from the outpost shop window, from the facility formula selection, etc)

[fiery cliff]

My wuling sub pac only makes sandleaf. I actually have heaps of room at the aic for all my production, I just find having a sandleaf colony funny

[keen badge]

Yep, pic #1 shows exactly that 🙃

[marble yarrow]

if you are just starting out, i would advise you to remove those extra banks directly from the packaging unit

[spiral frost]

😩

my xiranite production might be going down again idk why

I only have it hooked up to my battery productions

[true furnace]

Try implementing PWM next

[fiery cliff]

Ignore the right numbers. Those are just what the game thinks your max usage could be. It also includes any machines not powered or connected by belts

Left numbers are the important ones

[spiral frost]

ooohhh bc I have xiranite hooked to a machine I rarely use (bottles liquid xiranite)

it just sits there kinda

[marble yarrow]

turn it off. its wasting 50 power

[keen badge]

Then once the filling unit is done with the bottles then the xiranite should stabilize just fine

[fiery cliff]

To optimise your space, just put a belt splitter from a xiranite battery line and belt that to the refining unit. Once the bottle filler is done it will back up and restore your battery production. Saves you an aic output

[spiral frost]

I just deleted it lwky

I never used it

I have like 60 something bottles full

[fiery cliff]

Damn, you're gonna be cooked in 1.1 bro

The blight tide is coming bro

[marble yarrow]

scrap factory lmao

[spiral frost]

😩

[spiral frost]

what is this?

[keen badge]

"Hans, get ze xiranitewerfer" 🤣

[marble yarrow]

im spending extra ores so i keep the depot at middle full

also since next wuling battery requires ferrium powder

so im stocking up

[spiral frost]

well I'm gonna shower

[fiery cliff]

Yo did they reveal the recipe?

[spiral frost]

thanks for the help everybody

[marble yarrow]

you can see it it the dev preview vid

[fiery cliff]

All I know about the next battery is it uses the cuprium processing sewage biproduct

[spiral frost]

might come back to my factory in shambles 🤷‍♂️

[marble yarrow]

it requires a new product (from a new xiranite fluid + ferrium powder) of 1 belt, + 4 belts of dense originium

[keen badge]

They better give us new ferrium deposits to actually build it 🤪

[fiery cliff]

They said sewage from cuprium is used to make batteries, so that's probably the fluid

[marble yarrow]

STOCK KINGDOM

[fiery cliff]

What are you even accomplishing with that

Mass stockpiling resources doesn't really matter in endfield as ore deposits don't run out, internal buffers on machines are all huge, throughput sucks anyway as belts are very slow, meaning everything is effectively free anyway

[marble yarrow]

well, where do i put my extra resources?

its just because i have so much

[true furnace]

If your depot is full, they get Thanos'd

[fiery cliff]

Just let the depots fill up and ignore it. You don't need 30k of every material

[marble yarrow]

you do that. me, i wont

[keen badge]

I just let the factory fill up the depot aaand done 🤷
I sell to the outposts, stuff some factory items in the depot node boxes, that's about it

[fiery cliff]

Same

The point of automation games is you get to enjoy it doing the work by itself

[marble yarrow]

well i enjoy stocking extra item

we arent same

you do your game. i do mine

[fiery cliff]

The only time I have to touch my factory is if I want to divert xiranite to make comps or stockpile it eaw

[fiery cliff]

Legit set up some crops a few days ago so I could unlock the recipes and oroberyl from them

Felt like a true farmer

[keen badge]

afaik xiranite is good for 3 things currently

• batteries
• gear components
• liquid form
  first two are more critical
  third one can "leech off" one of the two Forges for the brief period it needs to recharge, when you go back to top up your bottles

[olive basalt]

i made an unnecessarily complicated sprinkler system

[true furnace]

Fertilizer automation when

[fiery cliff]

You should include a leech line to stockpile it raw to make power relays and pylons

Put a belt splitter off one of the forge to battery lines, connect it to a protocol stash. Then add the belt limiter thingy and set it to allow 5k in then turn off

Now you have more than enough xiranite to power all of your ziplines etc

[olive basalt]

guys i think i have enough but im unsure

[fiery cliff]

Mine is a God awful pipe spaghetti where the furthest away sprinklers only get water once every 8 seconds or so. Only works because the internal buffer is big enough to water 2 crop patches

[cyan bronze]

dump it into Tianshi Zhuang office lake

[lament turtle]

That won’t fill the pit, get back to work.

[fiery cliff]

That's enough to fill the 40k hole, just saying

[cyan bronze]

duality of man

[keen badge]

One of my Forges focuses on battery production only
Second Forge produces directly into the depot -> I'll probably produce xiranite gear components from depot, with a Crucible "leeching" from that belt until it tops up the fluid tanks and clogs
I'll think it over some more 🤷

[fiery cliff]

Have both forges make batteries, and have everything else leech

You'll always want batteries so you can sell them, but you don't need to produce gear comps forever

[olive basalt]

where do you put the water in there first

[lament turtle]

In the rest of the water.

[fiery cliff]

You take it out with bottles

Use the fill tool

[olive basalt]

tedious ahh work

ill do it when i have nothing else to do one day

[marble yarrow]

dump it to the nearby water

[olive basalt]

approximately how many bottles is 45 fluid

[fiery cliff]

45

[olive basalt]

45 what bro

[fiery cliff]

1 bottle holds 1 "unit", which when sprayed gives you 50 mini units

A bottling plant fills 1 bottle with 1 unit every 2 seconds

[vestal tiger]

Warhammer 40k ❌

Xiranite 40k ✅

[lament turtle]

Which means the 40k unit pit would need 40k units of factory waste liquid xiranite, not 20k.

[fiery cliff]

Kristen please, I'm trying to trick someone into doing it

[vestal tiger]

We have sewage next version

[lament turtle]

And we have 200m underground sewer lines.

[vestal tiger]

Rome

[fiery cliff]

I FUCKING LOVE LIQUID BIPRODUCTS TO ORE PRODUCTION! I FUCKING LOVE PYANODONS

[marble yarrow]

actually i filled the 40k hole with xiranite so i can use it for the new battery

[analog elbow]

This seems like a very inefficient placement.

[vestal tiger]

Was Kristen infected?

[fiery cliff]

New battery doesn't use liquid xiranite bro

[marble yarrow]

(wait till bro realize)

[olive basalt]

i cba to fix it its already working

[analog elbow]

1 Pylon can power up to 5 Sprinklers

[lament turtle]

There’s nothing saying either way.

[analog elbow]

If you place the Plot on 3x4

1 Pylon 5 Sprinkler 10 Plots

[fiery cliff]

Devs already confirmed it's sewage as the liquid for batteries during the reveal

[steel shell]

me using 1 pylon per sprinkler

[analog elbow]

[steel shell]

Tried using 1 pylon for 2 sprinklers but the area is clustered as fuck

[marble yarrow]

i must be blind if i can see the chain

[fiery cliff]

I also use 1 pylon per sprinkler because pylons are free

[analog elbow]

Well i need to free up my Protocol Capacity

[steel shell]

my ais cant go past the structure

[analog elbow]

Well guess you don't have ziplines to desired places.

[fiery cliff]

This isn't liquid xiranite bro

[analog elbow]

Cuz protocol capacity isn't just enough

[steel shell]

my ai are like stuck stuck, so i had to make some space in between so they wont get stuck stuck

[marble yarrow]

try harder

[fiery cliff]

I do

[analog elbow]

Show me

[fiery cliff]

I have a zipline network across v4 and wuling that connects every recycling station to its nearest tp point, plus some fun ones

[fiery cliff]

Devs: "cuprium produces sewage which can be used for new batteries"
Devs: "show sewage as part of the chain"

This is a matter of reading comprehension

[marble yarrow]

hope this helps you

[analog elbow]

Welp

[marble yarrow]

have fun learning

[analog elbow]

[fiery cliff]

I'm sure that 40k pit will definitely be worth your time

[marble yarrow]

sure

[analog elbow]

Idk why people expect we're not going to use Xiranite anymore when it's the Originium of Wuling

[fiery cliff]

Xiranite is also free, its only limitation is the number of forges allowed

[analog elbow]

I am already storing up on Orig Dense btw

With Batteries too

[marble yarrow]

yeah i also have extra batteries, since i will be doubling the production once new battery comes. so power wouldnt be an issue

[fiery cliff]

I really don't see the point I'm stockpiling, you'll still only be able to consume so much. You'll be building your factory to consume that you can produce, so the stockpile accomplishes nothing but take away from your production now

[marble yarrow]

its a choice. dont be envious

we're having fun with it

[fiery cliff]

You're going to be sitting with 30k dense orignium in your depot for the rest of time

[marble yarrow]

we dont mind. we'll play with extra resources as always

[fiery cliff]

I also play with extra resources, I just don't sabotage myself

[analog elbow]

Uhhh it's actually helpful for me since my wuling produces 17K batteries each day.

[lusty violet]

are those missing belts on the 2nd column from the left intentional

[analog elbow]

It's also an extra storage

[analog elbow]

The thing is. It doesn't affect even 0.1% on production so idk why i shouldn't

[fiery cliff]

So does mine

[marble yarrow]

so do you accept liquid xiranite is part of new battery production?

[analog elbow]

Not using Any Wuling Batteries piles up fast

[fiery cliff]

The max you can produce is 12/min, which is 17280 per day

Realistically you'll net 10.5/per min due to using 1 every 40s for power as long as you can keep everything under 1.8k

[analog elbow]

Yeah and with 0 usage it's faster than those who use Wuling Batteries to power up their Factory.

Since we don't really use Valley HC that much

[fiery cliff]

Problem is even 10.5 per min is still too fast for selling

Which sucks dn

Wuling production is already heavily capped, and stock bill regeneration is too slow to take advantage of the gimped production already

[analog elbow]

I hope we're getting 12 Regional Level now on Wuling

[fiery cliff]

I net 10.5 per min because I can't even sell it all

[fiery cliff]

Probably not this update

They showed all stuff on the map being upgraded to level 3

[analog elbow]

So 9 i guess

[fiery cliff]

And given there's still only 1 sub pac, I'd say maybe 8

They said 1.2 is coming with 2 new areas and a new sub pac, so that might be 12

Or at least 10

Depending if wuling is getting 3 outposts

[analog elbow]

8 seems unlikely. That's only 2 levels with all the upgrades we can do.

[fiery cliff]

Regional development costs a ton of xp

Leveling everything to 3 would probably only give 2 levels max

[marble yarrow]

@analog elbow did you have all essence alluviums already have turrets in them? thats another battery storage lmao

[analog elbow]

I use HCs on them

[fiery cliff]

Even with v4 I still make too many batteries and buck As to sell to all 3 outposts

[analog elbow]

My Sub in Wuling is still empty

There's only Thermal Banks there

[marble yarrow]

i'll probably bring back sky king flats towers since surely new TD level will appear

[analog elbow]

Like a troll build

[fiery cliff]

I have to do a routine of draining 2 and letting one recharge for few days

[analog elbow]

A whole thermal bank filling the plot

[fiery cliff]

My wuling sub pac only makes sandleaf

[analog elbow]

There's no way you consume all the space in core

[fiery cliff]

Because I could've put it in the city, but it's funnier to have a sandleaf colony

[analog elbow]

Ah

[fiery cliff]

I do not

I use like 1/4

[analog elbow]

Well Sandleaf is everything

[fiery cliff]

My base is very space efficient

[analog elbow]

Might as well feed them sandleaf

[fiery cliff]

So I just said let's make a sandleaf colony

[analog elbow]

Sandleaf a day keeps the clogging away

[fiery cliff]

I feel like a true European Explorer with my cash crop plantation

[marble yarrow]

my subPAC is all proto stash. but i dont think i can fully use the space in main AIC since i already have projected each of my production rate for 9 days (update time)

[analog elbow]

Wait actually sandleaf is the main cause of Global Clogging

[fiery cliff]

They should let me grow pineapples too

[analog elbow]

I was planning to replace it too later

[marble yarrow]

im instead planning to use the production line from the dev vid to build the new wuling battery blueprint lmaooo

its just a bunch of reactor crucible + treatment plants

also its funny that xiranite has a upgraded variant and a waste variant

[smoky eagle]

😮

Ok i feel dumb

I didn't realize 1 sandleaf produces 3 Powder!!!!!

[marble yarrow]

the weird thing is they converged 2 blue xiranites just before entering the crucible

[smoky eagle]

[marble yarrow]

no way