aic-factory

[somber snow]

but if u follow the picture, it shouldnt be too complicated

if u just want 1 belt, there's a different design

[scenic arch]

my theory is because kyostinv use the batteries saving tech thingy and make you use batteries and your reserve energy cause some kind of bug?

[rocky niche]

did you move power lines in your map? if you move your powerlines, some mining rigs get cut off from the gridlines

[somber snow]

something like this should be enough

[calm scarab]

The max ori ore production is 360/min

[solar fog]

Can you please explain what this will do? So if i make it, it will keep producing the plant i need?

[solar fog]

Thank you ill do it

[calm scarab]

You missed out some ori ore veins, i know cuz ive been that experience before

[scenic arch]

yeah everything is on the green

[lusty violet]

could you also include xiranite component? just <1d is fine

[rocky niche]

is that in wuling or valley 4?

[calm scarab]

Wuling

[somber snow]

seed pickers will take 1 plant, turn it into 2 seeds,
so u do 2 belts from the seed picker into 2 planters,
1 planter will feed back into the seed picker to supply it with plants,
the other planter will be fed into any kind of facility that you want to use

thats why its self-sufficient

[scenic arch]

https://tenor.com/view/ohh-i-under-black-guy-gif-1247944034220562367

[wet pagoda]

there is legit a tuto for it and they give a blueprint

[somber snow]

how do i make this better

[lusty violet]

replace chen with something else

[somber snow]

no

[calm scarab]

360/min get that black text to this number

[scenic arch]

yeah but no one talk about that 💀 , the problem is my resource is overflow when i should just make enough

[somber snow]

is it the overflow, or is it the fact that the xiranite shouldnt be connected to depot?

becuz if it is connected, itd make sense why itd overflow

[calm scarab]

Kyostinv layout designed a protocol stash to store that xiranite, but April's version removed that part already.

[somber snow]

alright, but it looks like he was concerned with xiranite somehow being fed into depot

[calm scarab]

There is no xiranite belt connected back to storage in Kyostinv original design

[calm scarab]

Yeah, a big mystery

[somber snow]

ye, this is why i dont like copying BPs

[scenic arch]

i found the problem

[rocky niche]

you missing mining rigs?

[somber snow]

i bet thats not what hes going to say

[scenic arch]

so basicaly this fvcker spawn on top on my xyranite pylon on multiple place unchecked

so the pylon got moved

[viral wharf]

Instead of centering on the square, move the horizontal busses four tiles up, so it'll actually be centered.

[scenic arch]

and some of the mineral unpowered in multiple places

[rocky niche]

wait, pylon could get moved?

[lusty violet]

wth

[scenic arch]

i mean that what happen

[somber snow]

true, but then id have no space,
id have to redesign

[rocky niche]

i didnt know shared facilities could move pylons in your world

[scenic arch]

that why day 1-7 yield got so much gap despite i never touch any aic stuff , they got moved here and there

[rocky niche]

first time i heard that here

[calm scarab]

If thats true, that shared facility function needs to be killed off

[viral wharf]

You'd have to slide the whole structure down as well

[somber snow]

[scenic arch]

i think that why my 1-7 days yield looks like this

[somber snow]

this is a whole nother problem

[rocky niche]

that's the jingyu valley part, where the passage way is too narrow, but the ziplines would still spawn there because to the left of that area, there is gatherables

[viral wharf]

Ty for the idea though, I'll change my base to something like that in 1.1, cause my current one is hideous.

[rocky niche]

you need to place your pylons in areas that wouldnt be moved by those zipline that will spawn in your map

[scenic arch]

still , why the hell this thing allowd to move my pylon that just toxic

[calm scarab]

I just know that Kyostinv original layout requires that ori ore needing to be capped 360/min, or this will compromise the wuling battery production line.

[steep knoll]

is it posible to make a 1/40 flow rate with splitters and convergers?

[rocky niche]

someone asked the same question before you in this chat

answer is yes

[scenic arch]

i guess ill check other nodes aswell

[lusty violet]

it was the same person

[rocky niche]

my bad, i didnt look at the name

[steep knoll]

how? i only know with multiples of 2 or 3

[rocky niche]

someone said it is manageable with multiples of 2

idk the details

but backread, ig?

[viral wharf]

Doing it manually, I got 1/36

[steep knoll]

they didn't explain how

[viral wharf]

Lemme check my spreadsheet

[rocky niche]

what is the 1/40 flow rate for?

[steep knoll]

batteries

is there a better way?

[marble yarrow]

what is 1/40? 1/40th of a belt speed? 1 item every 40s?

1/40 times 0.5 item per sec?

[steep knoll]

one item every 40s

[jovial breach]

[marble yarrow]

but banks eat 1 every 40

[rocky niche]

add another pump and converge?
is using converger means + (plus) in that formula?

[solar fog]

How do i equip explosives

[jovial breach]

Put in backpack

[rocky niche]

place them inside your bag. hold R to switch from scan to bomb

[spiral frost]

I managed to get a working automated power supply (no profit on wuling batteries tho) and a slow but steady component supply at 2/min. I have a bunch of space and I'm not sure what to produce. Anybody have any suggestions?

[solar fog]

Where do i get them from? Im already producing them but idk where do they go

[jovial breach]

2/min is not slow

[steep knoll]

yeah i'm trying to feed thermal banks batteries optimally but idk if this aproach is correct or there are better ways. anyway i don't know how to make 1/40

[spiral frost]

its not???

[jovial breach]

For component you dont need more than 1/min

[rocky niche]

depending on your production line, your bombs could be in your local depot or still inside the packaging unit

[spiral frost]

how do I get lower than 2/min?

[paper magnet]

split the xiranite output

funnel them into more batteries

[jovial breach]

Either you split the xiranite, or you only keep 1 grinder

[marble yarrow]

why are you targeting 1 every 40, if thats the default speed of battery consumption

[solar fog]

I think they're in ny depot, how do i open it?

[paper magnet]

you dont need that many compoents because you're not limited by components but by wuling creds

[frail trail]

Minimum component per minute is like 0.18 something/m

[rocky niche]

open your inventory inside the base, you also open the depot beside your bag

[frail trail]

Wait

Wrong math

[spiral frost]

I have the xiranite path split half and half into the comps and batteries. What could I produce with a third split?

[frail trail]

0.3/m

[frail trail]

Nothing

[jovial breach]

A gearing unit running at 100% efficiency is 3/min component, if you delete 2 grinders, only have 1 the efficiency will be 33.33% which is exactly 1/min component @spiral frost

[marble yarrow]

you mean 6/min at 100%

[jovial breach]

Oh shit

[frail trail]

I had a xiranite line split into 8th and feed it into my gearing unit for like a week or so

Had enough to use up weekly catalyst

[jovial breach]

Yeah i guess better split the xiranite

[marble yarrow]

why you have no profit on wuling battery? are you using 60/min xiranite?

[frail trail]

Went back to 1.5 component/m because battery was about to hit cap

[spiral frost]

I have 30/min xiranite

[frail trail]

Damn

[spiral frost]

how do you get 60?

[frail trail]

Make more

Yiu can place down 2 forge of the sky

If you have researched it

[jovial breach]

Unlock the 2nd forge

[marble yarrow]

aight. my suspicion is correct lmao

[viral wharf]

Okay so I have two solutions:

1. 1/40.5 = 1x 1/2 + 2x 2/3 + 2x 1/3
2. 1/36 = 2x 1/2 + 2x 1/3

[spiral frost]

I do have two forges placed tho

[frail trail]

Damn

Feed it more refined carbon

Require 2 grinding unit/forge

[frail trail]

Just feed a full line of battery into the thermal bank, the bank will consume 1/40

[spiral frost]

I'll try this

[jovial breach]

Make sure you use wuling plant for double carbon

[spiral frost]

wdym?

[steep knoll]

thanks. but is that how you are suppose to feed batteries to banks? i've heard you don't want to overfeed them and thought if it takes 40s to consume a battery, then making the battery takes 40s to reach the bank would be optimal. i'm a bit lost

[viral wharf]

Oh i thought they were asking for a specific ratio for something else

[jovial breach]

Sandleaf gives 1 carbon, wuling plant gives 2 carbon

[somber snow]

u can see,
2 planters and 2 seed pickers of wuling plants is enough to feed 2 forges

[marble yarrow]

1 every 40 sec

[frail trail]

So you want to feed the bank 1 battery every 40s?

That mean it's running at 100% efficiency

[viral wharf]

It only consumes 1 battery at a time at 1.5/min (1 battery/40s). The rest just sit there.

[frail trail]

So like

[spiral frost]

kk thanks, I'll set up a quick farm

[frail trail]

Just feed a whole line into the bank and the rate will just be 1.5/m (1/40s)

[marble yarrow]

[steep knoll]

oh so thats how it works huh i'm dumb

[frail trail]

I should probably go to sleep

[frail trail]

If you want to conserve battery and run the bank at 70% efficiency then use D.I.G.E

[jovial breach]

@marble yarrow btw if i split 1/4 xiranite for component 3/4 for battery do i need an extra grinder ? Like i just connect an extra line from a grinder from the battery into gearing unit would that be enough

[rocky niche]

from battery production line, have 4 lines from packaging unit = 3 lines going to protocol stash, 1 line to thermal bank. since the output from packaging unit rotates on all lines, you might get the desired 1/40 rate, since battery lasts for 40 seconds, and within 40s, your packaging unit creates 4 batteries. this means 3 batteries go to depot, 1 battery to thermal bank

i dont understand why the flow rate of water needs to change for battery tho

[marble yarrow]

1 belt of xiranite just maxes to 3 grinders at every batt-comp config, as what i have seen

[sterile storm]

how do i get more than 60 ferrium ore/min yield in wuling?

[jovial breach]

wait is that fr

[somber snow]

u need to increase ur RDL for higher purity

[sterile storm]

what is rdl..

[somber snow]

Regional Development Level

[sterile storm]

i see, tysm

[marble yarrow]

yeah, at 100batt-0comp its 3 grinder and 180/min of ori.

the more comp gets share, the lower ori goes

[somber snow]

compare urs with this, and c what u're missing

[muted valley]

Anyone have a BP's for a mega wuling battery machine?

[jovial breach]

Hmm battery is 1:3 and component is 2:3 for xiranite:originium cube ratio

[sterile storm]

my current lvl is 5

[marble yarrow]

at 0 batt-100 comp it becomes 1 grinder

[somber snow]

thats weird, u shud be getting 90/min

i think some of ur rigs rnt powered

[jovial breach]

Oh right xiranite to cube ratio is 1:1 isn't it

[undone vessel]

Hello guys do anyone how to increase the power grid?

[marble yarrow]

yes, for gearing

[jovial breach]

But you're always run it at way lower xiranite than that so cube wont be an issue

[stark osprey]

I found one of my old setups from when I started the game and holy I was bad at making production lines back then

[somber snow]

you want to increase your power?

[undone vessel]

Yeah

Sth like that

Not the battery

[somber snow]

im assuming what u mean is the energy capacity like at the top here

u need thermal banks

[undone vessel]

Wait a minute

I need more grid reserve

It reachs 100k

[somber snow]

can u not put anymore relays?

[undone vessel]

Yeah

[somber snow]

its not the reserves, u've just hit ur facility limit in that region

[undone vessel]

Oh

Ah i get it

[somber snow]

what does it show u at the top when u do this?

[undone vessel]

I think i reach the limit of the region i guess

It shows red number

[somber snow]

yeah, u hit the limit

[undone vessel]

Thank you a lot man

[sterile storm]

just reached rdl 6 and still the same, 3 of them is low purity

does it have anything to do with my current authority lvl?

[somber snow]

can u show ur AIC report

[sterile storm]

like this?

[somber snow]

thats not 60/min, thats 90/min

[sterile storm]

wait

fr

but still, does it have to say low purity on 3 of them tho

[somber snow]

yes

3 high, 3 low

[sterile storm]

ohh, alr then mb

[vague topaz]

??

[somber snow]

mustve read it wrong, not a big deal

[sterile storm]

https://giphy.com/gifs/monkey-thinking-4AwFO4f2VLo2fIFFA2

[somber snow]

also, that usage is very unoptimised

[sterile storm]

yeah, i just found a random blueprint for jincao drink

i swear no one else makes it

[marble yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJljqG3pvMU

[vague topaz]

yazhen heals more

[sterile storm]

but jincao drink looks funny

[vague topaz]

tru

[somber snow]

just pick thorny yazhen or fluffed jincao around the map,
their powders are way better healing consumables

unless u're too lazy

[viral wharf]

The moment I found out Canned Citrome healed more than Buck Capsules, I have only used Heal over time items. 50% more healing is crazy, especially once you introduce percentage healing.

Conduits kinda made pumps useless, but they'll probably consume double the power.

[somber snow]

it depends,
some ppl want to heal instantly so they dont get 1 shotted

[vague topaz]

more like im too noob and burn through way too much healing items

[somber snow]

but with fluffed jincao and thorny yazhen,
it doesnt matter which 1 u use,
they both heal over 2k, so its good enough

it depends on what u want

[viral wharf]

Don't think we really have anything in-game that hits hard enough for that in situations where you can use them.

[somber snow]

heal instantly to not die horribly,
or heal overtime for better value

[viral wharf]

You can't use them in Umbral Monument anyway

[somber snow]

some ppl rnt that good, so theyd want that

for the 3 bosses at least

[viral wharf]

Even for those, I just face tanked a few times while trying to practice rotations with no worry

[jovial breach]

Kinda sad you cant use food in umbral

When food is supposed to be the endgame minmax

[eager ore]

Does 2-4 thermal bank good enough for hc and sc battery?

[viral wharf]

Depends on your power usage really

[somber snow]

use DIGE and modulate

👍

[eager ore]

Mine exceed 5k engery usage my hc and sc battery drain fast when i out of work

[somber snow]

dude, u need HC

[eager ore]

Main aic on valley enough of 3k usage energy

[gentle sentinel]

Usually HC 5-6 and SC 6-7 for full base

[viral wharf]

Once you get HC, not much reason to use SC tbh. The higher the tier of battery, the more efficient on resources it is

[somber snow]

there is no reason,
HC is straight up better

it just takes more space, thats all

[eager ore]

I already did make hc and sc battery farm on wuling and manual transfer on valley

[somber snow]

u make hc and sc in wuling?

[eager ore]

Well sc battery good for selling so i did spare it in case

[somber snow]

uh huh

[stoic bison]

I finally fixed my factory set-up NOW I CAN SLEEP💤

[somber snow]

alr, im gonna give you my reference,
if u want to improve ur base, u can take a look

for the other 2 outposts

if u want to fully optimise, or at least have a better factory,
it should look something like this

[viral wharf]

HC vs SC

Power

• SC: 420
• HC: 1,100 (~ +162%)
  Material Cost
• SC: 15 Originium Ore + 10 Ferrium Ore
• HC: 30 Originium Ore (+100%) + 20 Ferrium Ore (+100%)
  Trade Value
• SC: 30 WSB
• HC: 70 WSB (~ +133%)

So for double the resources you gain:

• ~81% more Power
• ~66.7% more WSB

[gentle sentinel]

What does the stash in the middle do?

[eager ore]

Can i use it on sub aic base?

[somber snow]

the Sub AICs are in the outposts, so yes

i just realised something

[eager ore]

This?

[gentle sentinel]

Yea THAT

[somber snow]

the reason why my buck A was stuck on 6, was becuz it was clogged,
i merged it with another belt for carbon powder, cuz i wanted to stock up

[eager ore]

I use it belt transfer so it will not clogged

[gentle sentinel]

But you could make a new farm considering there's tons of space on that one subpac

[somber snow]

119532/hr
with operators that increase outpost stockbill gain

every hour,
14400 from buck/citrome Cs,
75600 from 2 buck As/1 citrome As,
42000 from HC batteries,

this is how much stockbills u can get

so 132000/hr,

[somber snow]

there's nothing else i can put there, unless i wanna stock up

and i already have enough space at the main AIC, so im just using that

[lusty violet]

best to remove that stash, it's fine if sandleaf powder backs up in the shredder
having the stash makes it possible for it to clog up with sandleaf powder if depot is full, and would prevent ori powder getting through

[gentle sentinel]

You could at least put two more farm in this one mate

[somber snow]

what farm

[gentle sentinel]

Carbon

Why do you have to cut the med?

[somber snow]

im already maxed on carbon

[somber snow]

i didnt cut the med, i merged the belt cuz i was lazy

i already fixed it

[storm token]

where can i see early game valley 4 bluprints if avail?

[gentle sentinel]

It shouldn't clog though

[gentle sentinel]

Why is this line 20/min?

[eager ore]

Recycle

Since i have too many sandflower seed farm

[gentle sentinel]

But your battery is now inefficient

That's why you have a clog

[gentle sentinel]

Check out #1461542035617091681 and search "SC" (SC Battery) and "B" (Buck/Citrome B) That should be the only thing you need for early game 👍

[raven garden]

I maxed my factory with originium crust

[gentle sentinel]

Ah yes The Goat

[raven garden]

Just now had my factory built by a friend

Only in valley iv tho

[green moon]

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 really?

why even bother

[somber snow]

do it

[gentle sentinel]

Shouldn't it be 50,400 for HC Batteries?

[green moon]

NOPE

[somber snow]

im assuming 10/min,
since most ppl dont modulate

[gentle sentinel]

What happened to the 8/min?

[somber snow]

any higher than that, and the factories very unoptimised

[green moon]

u gotta deliver more than 73kg in order to use amazon prime services
such 15kg only worth fedex

[somber snow]

doesnt matter if its 10/min or 8/min,
they both still outearn the outposts

it just depends on if u want to optimise more or not,
i dont see why that matters

[somber snow]

ud be helping out newbies, trust me
u're definitely not geting scammed

[green moon]

i dont think newbies cant put in 6k cancer rocks in wuling

[somber snow]

i think ive seen 1 guy mined all the originium by hand for deliveries

[green moon]

WORSE THAN GETTING OVER IT

[spiral frost]

I did this and I'm still at 30/min

[somber snow]

show a picture

might be something wrong with ur carbon output

[spiral frost]

it's not identical, but very similar

[somber snow]

1 carbon makes 2 powders,
but u only have 1 belt from the shredders

[spiral frost]

ohh

[somber snow]

and the dense carbon needs 2 powders for 100% eff

1 sandleaf produces 3 powders too,
so u dont need 2 of those shredders for the sandleaf,
u just need 1 feeding into both the grinders

[spiral frost]

hm

I fixed the carbon input issue

my xiranite is finally above 30/min. it went up to 50

[verbal lintel]

is the main boost of having valley 4 complete before going to wuling just batteries

[spiral frost]

@somber snow thanks for the help

[verbal lintel]

seeing that the transfer rate is kinda ass

[somber snow]

after a while, it should go up to 60/min

[somber snow]

r u talking about meta transfer,
or just manually transfering through dijiang

[spiral frost]

it did 🥳

[verbal lintel]

meta transfer

i dont think manually going through dijang is a good idea?

[lament turtle]

Even if the rate isn’t 2000 units/s, that’s still units that aren’t reducing your stockpile.

[somber snow]

u meta transfer ferrium, not batteries

[somber snow]

it is a good idea,
in less than 5 minutes, u can tranfer 9k hc batteries through dijiang

[verbal lintel]

its heavily needed there?

[somber snow]

yeah

for making the meds

[verbal lintel]

oh the meds

i see tysm

[somber snow]

itll bump up the ferriums yield from 90/min to 115/min

[lament turtle]

Wuling barely has enough ferium to keep itself afloat.

[somber snow]

and u need 120, so its a bit below, but itll do

[gentle sentinel]

Wouldn't it better to transfer batteries?
Battery Transfer
12/min Battery 50400/hour
4.5/min Med 4320/hour
Total: 54720/hour

Ferrium Transfer
10.5/min Battery 44100/hour
5.75/min Med 5520/hour
Total: 49620/hour

[somber snow]

can u sell HC batteries in wuling

[gentle sentinel]

You could power it up wym?

[somber snow]

then wth is this calculation

we were talking about meta, not manual

[gentle sentinel]

I thought tranfering battery have much more quantity my bad

[somber snow]

its alr

[gentle sentinel]

@somber snow you got any idea on what to build rn?

[somber snow]

unless im destroying my entire factory to make it look better, not rly

rn, im just stockpiling cryston bottles

[gentle sentinel]

[quartz oriole]

I'm so excited for this new update. The fact that we are getting 2 more forges is huge. Plus all the new water facilities. Love that everyone will be back engineering their bases.

[somber snow]

i just wanna look at the new gears and see what they do

[quartz oriole]

From the devlog they seem to be just upgraded versions of what we have. So probably some stat bonuses. Unless I missed something.

[glossy imp]

How do we feel about the new mining rigs that require water??

[real crescent]

cool

[lusty violet]

i like it, same mining as before woulda been boring

[keen badge]

handy intel 👀
grow the right plant, save some space

[lament turtle]

The gear is equal to what we have, it’s just increasing the options since not everyone has something that fits perfectly.

[icy meteor]

can someone help me how to produce liquid xiranite for puzzles when this blueprint already uses 2 forge of the sky?

[tame spire]

...thank god for blueprints

[gentle sentinel]

You could take out some xiranite

[keen badge]

Imo pick one of the forges and use a belt splitter
Route one belt to one of those reaction cauldron thingies, and keep the produced liquid xiranite in a liquid tank (500 units tops), send it to a filling unit
And have 50 bottles with you

The 500 unit liquid tank is plenty enough if you need to circle back and top up
Once it is full, it gets clogged and the "tapped" forge goes back to doing its main thing

[icy meteor]

I don't get it, why isn't it transfering it to protocol stash?

oh no it needs pipes

and I don't have amethyst parts lmao

fun

[somber snow]

u cant store liquids into depot,
only into fluid tanks

[icy meteor]

oh that's good

forgot about those

[dense steppe]

is there an agreed upon best overall blueprint (stock bills, healing, gear, etc)?

[icy meteor]

from tanks should I direct them into filling station?

[somber snow]

not rly, it depends on what u want

some ppl crammed everything into main AIC,
while others prefer to use their outposts

[dense steppe]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966 yea i saw this

[somber snow]

if u're only concerned with fully optimised yields,
theres a lot of options

[dense steppe]

but that seems like it’s only for stock bills + healing

[icy meteor]

bro I don't get it why doesn't it work?

[dense steppe]

i really just want a setup where i can get a good amount of stock bills/healing/gear, i don’t mind if it’s not fully “optimized”

[somber snow]

u need to set where the liquid is going in the crucible

[mortal plinth]

you need to choose what liquids you want to come out from the output

[viral wharf]

Unfortunately since it uses Xiranite directly from the Forge of the Skies, you'll have to remodel it entirely.

[icy meteor]

HOW?

man I'm too dumb for this sht and this blueprint just makes everything worse

[mortal plinth]

you put it in the wrong one bruh

you have a pipe on the yellow port

so why are you trying to make it come out of the orange

[somber snow]

well,
u can do
12/min HC batteries,
18/min buck/citrome As,

for the excess iro and amethysts,
u can use that for cryston components

[icy meteor]

I don't get it, what am I supposed to do here?

f*ck it I'm going out for a smoke

[mortal plinth]

well he only needs a little so he can just remove it after

[somber snow]

but imo,
u shud just skip straight to gold components in wuling

[mortal plinth]

read my message

[dense steppe]

oh shit true i didn’t think about that

[somber snow]

click the crucible

[mortal plinth]

yellow one at the bottom

orange one at the top has no pipe

either you put a pipe on the orange one or you put the output on the yellow

[round barn]

bruh there's still no top-view when building multiple water pipes routes outside aic from this incoming updates

[uneven aspen]

yeah but other than piping for the farm, it's not really that important.

[round barn]

even the logistics did not get tackled or updated, atleast to optimize the rotation tips

we're getting new red ore

[unkempt temple]

At least they making harvesting faster now

Wish we had a one button harvest though

[merry wagon]

4 forges

not as much as I'd like, but still

[somber snow]

4 forges is definitely rly good

becuz we get to make better batteries too

more profits, more energy

[merry wagon]

what if no forge limit

btw does the new components require xiranite to produce

or is it just copper

[somber snow]

then everyone will flood wuling with mountain dew

[somber snow]

it uses xiranite too, yes

[merry wagon]

man then I think we need more mountain dew machines

[somber snow]

nah

[round barn]

who's gonna be the third 6 star after tangtang, rossie

[merry wagon]

no idea

mi fu probably?

[somber snow]

isnt mifu going to be a 5 *

[sinful osprey]

Unrelated but i found a hole in the ground

[real crescent]

next version? noone

[merry wagon]

no idea tbh

[real crescent]

three six stars was a thing only for 1.0

[merry wagon]

just guessing

[real crescent]

from now on its two banners per version

[round barn]

is this for level 90 gears?

[real crescent]

they made it sound like these are supposed to be different options rather than pure upgrades so probably not

[merry wagon]

not a direct upgrade, but with a focus on different stats

[round barn]

seems hypergryph expand the cooking materials

[merry wagon]

what if I pump toxic waste into my jincao drink bottling machine

[vapid dock]

Can I dump 40k sewage water in the hole

Fill everything with sewage water

[viral wharf]

Wonder how we'll get Sewage Water

[lament turtle]

Processing metals like a real factory.

[viral wharf]

Not sure if I'd call that Sewage tho

[real crescent]

we can see it coming out of a refiner thats working with the new ore

[rigid breach]

How can we be a factory if we can't dump sewage into the river to create an environmental disaster?

[stoic coyote]

[stoic coyote]

it's so highly technology, it's prevent dumping different liquids into one pool

[lone pebble]

with the new up ! lets see were you put the waste !! :))

[lament turtle]

If only you could replace the fluid in the pools within Wuling…

[lone pebble]

pump . pipe , dump ! wy not ?

[lone pebble]

there are a few spot`s !

[lament turtle]

I mean actual Wuling, cause I already checked every body within the city and they’re all unlimited.

[lone pebble]

even the ones , that u took the chest from ? and you emptied ?

[lament turtle]

The water never fully drains from those in the quests, there’s still areas you can drown during it.

If a pool doesn’t have a bottom, it can’t be emptied. And if it’s a flowing body, it can’t be emptied.

[lusty violet]

i think they meant the main city area

[lone pebble]

he sad Wuling 🙂

[lusty violet]

"within the city" but yea idk

[steep knoll]

would this work? i mean, would the packaging unit outputs cycle between all of them?

[real crescent]

yes

[lone pebble]

yes but wy ?

[real crescent]

this splits one sixth to the thermal bank and five sixth to the stash

[real crescent]

power pulse width modulation but connected directly to the production line

[lone pebble]

maybe , but it`s going direct to a stash!

[earnest steeple]

but it's more likely to break if anything goes wrong

[steep knoll]

i don't know what i'm doingthe idea is to make this hc battery line self sufficient

[real crescent]

the left most output isnt

[lone pebble]

true but wont have 1.2.3.4.5.6 order ! will be random !

[steep knoll]

oh really?

[earnest steeple]

outputs aren't random, they actually do it round robin assumign each output isn't blocked.

[lone pebble]

yes and no! and true @earnest steeple , but only after&when u manually put them , and till you log off ! if copied or relogin , order will change !

[earnest steeple]

okay let me test

[steep knoll]

so it is better if i send all the batteries to the stash and handle the thermal bank elsewhere right

[lusty violet]

yea

[lone pebble]

yes and no :)) its safer elsewhere ! it`s more predictable ! and dose not give headache

ex: i can put this to the outs of the Pack. but il have to consider the 10s production + delay+ timelane + order !

[earnest steeple]

so far no issues with test, after logging off, but auto management didn't take over, so i'll check after log off for my current session.

[steep knoll]

btw what do you think of this hc battery line? it's only missing the pylons

oops and a few belts on some grinding units outputs

the bridges don't slow down the flow rate right?

[lone pebble]

nice, but you dont use the space in youre eneffit ! my point of view ! i have it like this flowers elsewere

[earnest steeple]

don't put the sandleaf and battery into same protocol stash, because if sandleaf fills up, you can't store any batteries either. it's better to let sandleaf clog than to use the same stash

[lone pebble]

and it will cloged

[lusty violet]

are you missing refiner/fitting after the ferrium grinding stuff?

[lone pebble]

yes he dose :)) sharp eyes

[steep knoll]

i see thanks. so if an item is at max stack, the stash will clog?

[steep knoll]

oh, true thanks

[lone pebble]

the hole line will clog

[earnest steeple]

well, the stash can't trasfer, so it fills up with the item, and then other different type items can't enter the stash so there's no space.

[steep knoll]

ok i'll handle sandleaf elsewhere, thanks everyone

[real crescent]

honestly just let sandleaf clog imo

theres no real gain in depoting some extra powder

[steep knoll]

can you use the extra powder for depot trade?

[lament turtle]

Yes

[round barn]

that's immoral and environment pollution, give some thought of it

[lament turtle]

If people cared about morales, it wouldn’t be a thing in the first place.

[lone pebble]

oo boy :)) then lets save the slogs from death to ! to bad they atk :))

[steep knoll]

i think this is done 🫡

[rigid breach]

On the other hand, we would be able to dump liquid xiranite into the river to fight the Blight.

[lament turtle]

-# I still see grass.

[spiral frost]

How can I go about manufacturing wuling batteries without depleting my xiranite stocks to 0?

lol nevermind I just forgot to connect my carbon to my forge

[simple fractal]

Bouta grill me some meat

[stoic coyote]

what

[modern carbon]

Whoever placed these Originium nodes NorthEast of the Tianshi Pillar Array needs a pay cut. Because this is just evil.

[lament turtle]

Just watch they’ll add more nodes to some of the mining spots to fill the voids.

[jagged scroll]

Weird one of my Buck As was randomly clogged in the moulding unit. It had a random 1 bottle in the input.

Was making 15/m BuckAs the entire time...

[calm scarab]

Rip

[modern carbon]

Is the Pipe max 2/second?

[frail trail]

Yes

[modern carbon]

So for this "Drain the Lake" goober I can run 2 pumps on 1 pipe to 1 drain, I suppose.

[lament turtle]

Or you can run five pipes to three drains, cause I don’t think you could fit anymore than that on that end of the hole.

Then again, even if you could get behind the gate, the exit goes down, so it’s probably tell you pipes won’t work cause of elevation all differences.
But there is room for at least two more at the exit regardless.

[silver hearth]

You wont get to the exist unless youve alr cleared the area though

So it isnt useful unless you plan to fill it

[lament turtle]

Ziplines exist. Whether they exist within the exit before you can get in is something else.

[modern carbon]

Boom. 6 Pumps to 3 Dumps

[twilit sail]

guys i never thought about it but y does a ore location mention low purity does it even matter?

[modern carbon]

It affects miner production speed

Purity goes up as you raise Region Development Level

[twilit sail]

so its easy to clog the mining rig but i need to mine it anyway?

[modern carbon]

Are you still using the Portable Mining Rigs??

[twilit sail]

no? rig mark 2 obviously

[modern carbon]

Electric Mining Rigs teleport the ore to the Depot

They'll only clog if you have more Ore being mined than used.

[twilit sail]

Makes sense

thx

[cyan jay]

Anyone have an endgame factory for valley IV for both the pac and sub

[lusty violet]

https://discordapp.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681

[unreal laurel]

WHATRE U HOARDING

[vestal tiger]

My valley iv stopped making stuff and I didn't know

I also didn't know why I until I checked the battery making part and saw that my sandleaf was not consistent

I found out there was a dumb and 2 different things were being fed into the same protocol stash, and one of them over flowed

[leaden drift]

Wouldn't that be aketon

[leaden drift]

Never have different items share protocol stashes

[unreal laurel]

classic noobie mistake

[leaden drift]

Unless ur doing something weird

[unreal laurel]

i clogged mine with seeds once

[unreal laurel]

like this?

technically my yield and usage match and any stutters that can cause an overflow will just make the metatransfer send less so its all good i think

[leaden drift]

What item shares a protocol stash?

[unreal laurel]

the heal and ferrium

im stashing 5 to achieve the 115

[leaden drift]

It is weird

[unreal laurel]

it doesnt clog tho

[vestal tiger]

Ja

[unreal laurel]

so it works

[leaden drift]

But u aren't making more meds than ferrium

[unreal laurel]

ya

[vestal tiger]

It just took 3 weeks for a probelm to occur

[unreal laurel]

why would i

that would cause a ferrium deficit

[leaden drift]

The only way it clogs is if you max the meds

[unreal laurel]

exactly,its a non issue

[leaden drift]

Yeah but normally sharing a protocol stash is bad

Unless u know what ur doing

You wouldng have a wbat and sandleaf powder share the same protocol stash

[paper magnet]

You shouldn't ever send sandleaf powder into stash fwiw

If you're using a single thermal bank to power your base you can have your stash share with another output item, just use an item control port to make sure only batteries get sent out

[dawn flax]

protocol stash can share among mats that you are ensured it will never cap, like bill-selling materials

[unreal laurel]

wrong

i once shared the battery with sandleaf seeds and it clogged

[somber snow]

I dont think u sell seeds

[dawn flax]

let me guess, sandleaf seed capped?

[unreal laurel]

yep

[dawn flax]

then i am still right

sadly

[unreal laurel]

u said it can be shared amomg mats that dont cap

thats half right

[dawn flax]

if one of the items u share into protocol is capped, it's clogged

[unreal laurel]

they can be shared only if neither cap

[dawn flax]

well i said it "can" doesn't means it's "must", so my interpretation is broader than you think

[somber snow]

Im sure yknow what he meant, even gave an example, bill sharing materials,
And sandleaf seeds dont clog, unless actively stockpiling them

[dawn flax]

tbh, i never stock sandleaf seeds, only powders clog

[somber snow]

I clogged my buck A last night cuz i was too lazy to route my carbon powder,
So i just merged the belts

I already fixed it b4 i slept

[dawn flax]

or split buckflower between stash and shred

[somber snow]

Oh i was stockpiling

[dawn flax]

i see

[unreal laurel]

finally made my wuling semi optimized, so hopefully the emergency gen doesnt brick a 3rd time

[somber snow]

I already got rid of the facility

[inland lodge]

does theoritical data even matter?

[dawn flax]

it matter for some

[unreal laurel]

yes

[somber snow]

Yes it does, just not in the way u think

[dawn flax]

but if u already trials-and-errors until u r ensured sufficiency, then it's trivial

[frail trail]

Yes

[unreal laurel]

it shows u how ineffiecient u are

[inland lodge]

even when the data always stable?

i kinda dont see different after a week

[dawn flax]

data is the reference

[inland lodge]

interesting

[dawn flax]

it's how u inspect existing machineries manually before u see "signs that can improve"

[frail trail]

Looking at those numbers, you have multiple machine using originium running at <100% or not even using at all

[dawn flax]

or even if u already think it's best u could do, u may find a way to rotates machinery to occupy less space

[inland lodge]

ive been trying some rotation and the length of the belt indeed

[dawn flax]

u may , in spare time, adjust Wuling's machinery space occupation, to conserve empty space for 1.1 system

which include, wireless-waterpipes, sewer drainage, and new mining in new map

unless u think u can impliment new system wholely on expected-1.1 sub-AIC spot

[viscid plover]

getting into qingbozai in advance

[dawn flax]

and ..the red circuit production for supposedly red(?)-quality gear

hope there'll be new sub-AIC-base in 1.1...right? if not..then it's another story

[somber snow]

I think its still gold tier, but focused on different stats

[dawn flax]

tbh, i hope so

[viscid plover]

would be nice, more ways to get wuling money

[dawn flax]

and hopefully, more ferrium deposit

[lusty violet]

think they said new sub is 1.2?

[dawn flax]

[viscid plover]

i just watched the whole devlog vid no mention of it

[dawn flax]

if it's 1.2 then my stockade space should be enough for now

[lusty violet]

was at very end, talking about after 1.1

[dawn flax]

1.2 might be Zhuang and Mifu

or Zhuang and "a guy", with Mifu as 5*

[vestal tiger]

Could be Tallulah v2

[dawn flax]

the long white hair one seen in Valley?

[unreal laurel]

i got bored and decided to store 13500raw xiranite in stashes

[viscid plover]

not the worst idea

[unreal laurel]

was going for 45000 but got lazy

[viscid plover]

i just turn off my component factory

xiranite will pile up until next patch

[unreal laurel]

i meant storing xiranite in stashes then letting the depot max out

cause u can never have too much xiranite

[fierce ruin]

hello, can a shared zipline be deployed like clipping to one of your own ziplines

[viscid plover]

people who store their xiranite liquid in 40k pond be like

[unreal laurel]

not sure

[fierce ruin]

I kinda wanna test it

[fierce ruin]

that's... smart

[unreal laurel]

store straight into the quest pond

[dawn flax]

so to reconvert pond into xiranite agian, just make a fluid splitter

[unreal laurel]

it probably doesnt have a high capacity but why not

[dawn flax]

that's actually very nice idea, i think i'll go for it too

[viscid plover]

you can't turn your xiranite liquid back to xiranite btw, just so we are clear on the objective here

[dawn flax]

does the pond only on main-wuling-aic map?

[unreal laurel]

doesnt the reactor crucible have a split mode?

[dawn flax]

iirc, there's a dedicated fluid splitter machine

but u need a bottle?

[viscid plover]

can show me?

i've never seen it, not in my crucible at least

[fierce ruin]

oh..

[viscid plover]

idk i never heard of that tech

[lament turtle]

Crucible can send out three items: whatever liquid you feed in, whatever solid matter you feed in, and the concoction from mixing those two together makes.

It has two pipes out, so it can function as an extender for water lines.

[unreal laurel]

question,why does extra delivery seem to cap at 310k when your own deliveries go as high as 363k

[lament turtle]

The deposit doesn’t go to you.

[viscid plover]

accepting the quest itself already have a payout

[unreal laurel]

what deposit?

[viscid plover]

which goes to the original owner of the quest

[unreal laurel]

ic

[dawn flax]

commission deposit for the hirer

[unreal laurel]

whats the max score on v4 dev?

mines 40805

[crude nebula]

12

[unreal laurel]

but i dont trust it

[crude nebula]

ow that score

[normal prawn]

do we need new catalyst for red gears?

[crude nebula]

possibly

for artificing

[dawn flax]

possibly, even doubling the usage each

[unreal laurel]

red?

isnt gold already the best gear?

[dawn flax]

not sure it's red, but 1.1 introduced "improved" gears, that imply combining or further retrofitting existing gold-gears

[lament turtle]

The new parts for the new gear are red. The tier is still gold.

[unreal laurel]

should i be leveling all my operators for dijiang labor

[crude nebula]

just for the necessary slot

[unreal laurel]

if so,is the first tier enough or should i go for the 2nd

[normal prawn]

it is still gold tier but uses red component to craft gears

[crude nebula]

all in 2ti er

[unreal laurel]

why

[dawn flax]

ye, and the red-compoenent factory might need the new sewer-system or/and new ore

[normal prawn]

yeah new ore uses hydro mining ore that doesnt need relay or powers to run, it only need water iirc

[lament turtle]

It will be the new ore, and the sewage will more likely go to the new batteries, cause industrial waste reduction:

[crude nebula]

but you still need pylon fot that water pump

[crude nebula]

new objective, fill the 40k pond with sewage

[lament turtle]

They still technically need relays since you still need to pump water. Making it worse is the restriction on pipe flow and how much a pump can move.

[lament turtle]

Already planning to.

Fill all the pools with sewage.

[crude nebula]

time to remove the jiancho water

[normal prawn]

in livestream, theres no pylon nearby

[crude nebula]

can we just dump this water to random water spot?

[lament turtle]

Git your silly straws

[crude nebula]

then how do you power the water pmp without pylon?

[lament turtle]

They also don’t really show the water pump, either.

[crude nebula]

you fill it with bottle?

[dawn flax]

fill the Wuling Palace pond in downtown with sewers

[crude nebula]

sadly the infinite water source can't be replace

[dawn flax]

sadly indeed

in that pic, the river is right there for the pump

[crude nebula]

but we can dump random water to infinite water source right?

[normal prawn]

well, we talk about pylon so..

[dawn flax]

"we require additional pylons" classic starcraft

if the hydrominer doesn't require power, then yeah, piping is better than power-linking

[lament turtle]

They also introduced a new water relocation device: conduits, underground waterlines that reach almost three times further than powerlines, further proving Wuling tech superiority.

[dawn flax]

200m

will retrofit existing main-Wuling-factories with this "wireless pipe"

[crude nebula]

it'll be easier to fill the 40k pond that way, thanks dev

[lament turtle]

Abuse it with tanks to fill the pit faster.

[dawn flax]

however, the wireless-pipe station looks needing almost 3 x 4 slot

[lament turtle]

Assuming you don’t need to power the points where the conduit go above or below ground.

[dawn flax]

if machinery already cramped , then standard piping may stay

since a pipe can go over belt

[crude nebula]

i'll keep my super long pipeline route and make it personal world's v1.0 history

[paper magnet]

Underground power lines when

My wuling scenery is ruined by all the pylons

[dawn flax]

Wuling's "wifi" power link is already like that

albeit 80m range

[analog elbow]

No

[crude nebula]

120m pylon when

[paper magnet]

Actually ya I just want to hide all the towers

[analog elbow]

Waste are forbidden to be dumped into any liquid

[lament turtle]

They’re already making the scenery ugly by forcing pumps for mines.

[crude nebula]

then what people do for this case?

[dawn flax]

remind me of "Zipline Mk2" with 110m instead of standard 80m range

[analog elbow]

It says "cannot mix different liquids" or something like that

[analog elbow]

Same as Beta Test

Water Treatment

[leaden drift]

I started to do that to atleast get basic stuff

[analog elbow]

Then you dump the waste after it becomes "Harmless"

[crude nebula]

but i just want to dump my 40k jiancho water

[dawn flax]

will sewer water turns the pond "shit"ty brown?

[analog elbow]

You can dump into that 40K hole

But there can't be any liquid inside

Unless they change it into Tank Exclusive for Wastes

[crude nebula]

no no, i mean it's already filled with jiancho, but i want to replace it with sewage later

[analog elbow]

Better drain it now then

[dawn flax]

re-pump it into dedicated "fluid-splitter" machine

[crude nebula]

aahh i see

[dawn flax]

to drain out the jiancho first

[crude nebula]

reverse the whole pipe for it then

[analog elbow]

All i know is Waste cannot be mixed into any liquid. That's why it cannot be dumped into Infinite Water Sources

[crude nebula]

sad

[analog elbow]

I'm glad it's back tho. It was removed from Beta Test

[dawn flax]

hope there'll be no consequence if the sewer is capped and clogged

[analog elbow]

We're going Nestlé Way

[analog elbow]

It can clog up the machines

If you don't extract the wastes

[dawn flax]

then there should be infinite dump-site-storage eh?

[analog elbow]

No

You need to put it into water treatment

[crude nebula]

i just hope that they allow to dump random water to the river, i mean that's what real industry do

[analog elbow]

Then you dump it after

You can't dump without purifying it first

[crude nebula]

yeah the new building for water treatment

[dawn flax]

ok, then is there cap for treated-waste site?

[analog elbow]

Treated Water becomes Normal Water

[crude nebula]

should be on how many machine you have for water treatment

[dawn flax]

nice, then can recycle water

[analog elbow]

Nuh uh

We go Nestlé way

Drain more

[dawn flax]

sounds like mounting issue, but ok

[analog elbow]

We don't want 99% Purified Water
We want Local's Water

[dawn flax]

will see how it's done

[analog elbow]

I'm sure you can reuse it

[lament turtle]

All liquids are like that. I tried seeing if I could just cycle jincao into the river and it stopped at the spout.

[analog elbow]

Yeah

Different liquids cannot be mixed.

[lament turtle]

And they said the new sewage waste was going to be used for the new batteries.

[dawn flax]

i guess we will recycle water up to half of the usage, can use less pumps

[analog elbow]

I don't think so

[crude nebula]

but the dev said that for the new battery

[analog elbow]

All I'm seeing is 4 Orgi Dense and 1 Xiranite lines

For the new Wuling Battery

So we're getting more originium

Since most batteries only uses 3 lines

[dawn flax]

aww it doesn;'t use existing wuling battery as mat

[analog elbow]

But for the new one it's 4 Lines

Of Origin Dense

I am already building up Dense Originium

And stocking up Batteries

[dawn flax]

regular wuling-battery?

[analog elbow]

Close to be full

[analog elbow]

yes

We're getting Regional Level update. More trading stocks ofc

Gotta build more stashes ig. Batteries build up fast

Since I'm not using any i get 17K+ Batteries each day

[dawn flax]

i have 5 Wuling-battery production line, 3 for power, 2 for sell

[frail trail]

I wonder what these things could be used for other than wuling sc

[limpid plank]

Hey guys how does someone remove an item from the reactor crucible because omg

[frail trail]

Are you talking about taking an output from the reactor or taking out something that clogged the machine

[limpid plank]

Clogged the machine.

I accidentally put jinaco in it and I can't remove it

[ornate frigate]

We will see

[limpid plank]

I just build a filter out of it but it's dumb you cant remove it from the menu it's self

[frail trail]

Delete the machine and place another one down

[viscid plover]

use a fluid tank and connect the liquid out

or yea just delete it and replace

not losing much either way

[frail trail]

Ferrium powder + clean water (?) seems like a really weird recipe idk why

[viscid plover]

in the video they say to extract the new ore you only need water no need for electricity
then i immediately think: what a bunch of lying dev

pump need 10 power

[dawn flax]

they probably mean, no pole needed on mining site

just pipes to the miner

[viscid plover]

how the liquid go over the pipe then

[dawn flax]

the pump and pole is on different site

could be 100-200m away

or through watertanks transfer

which no need power

[viscid plover]

so you need dedicated pump...

[dawn flax]

u can technically use existing pump from your aic

pipe all the way through the map

to the mining site

[viscid plover]

you know each pump have water limit right?

[frail trail]

New research on the water pump

Maybe we could get wireless pump?

[analog elbow]

Underground pipes with 200 meters that don't collide with anything are already goated

[dawn flax]

wireless pump has 200m range

but the recieveing station still need power there

i guess

[analog elbow]

yep

[viscid plover]

so in the end, yes there's need of power

[analog elbow]

ofc the factory must grow

[viscid plover]

just like normal mining rig that cost 5 to 10 power

but with extra step

[analog elbow]

We can't do nothing without power

[dawn flax]

that's why series of watertanks (no need power) and lines of pipes from your AIC , all the way to the hydromining

no need the poles along it

[frail trail]

Also it looks like we need to research to refine cuprium ore

[viscid plover]

so how do you get water into the water tank?

lmao

[lusty violet]

so what u do is u have another water tank

[viscid plover]

HAHAHAHAH

[dawn flax]

the power is within AIC compound, no need to set additional one to the hydromining

unless the water capacity is deficit

by increased usage

ys, u can sets dozens of water tanks along the line

[uneven sand]

I just started building my wuling factory and im having some issues with the water pump. my water pump isn't transporting water fast enough so the other mats get clogged does anyone know what I should do?

[viscid plover]

oh man you really have no idea what you are talking about do you
1 water pump can supply 2 facility
in order to use "existing pump" like you said it would imply that you set up a pump and not using it for some odd reason already

[lusty violet]

sounds like u need another pump, each one is 1/s water

[dawn flax]

water tank also serve as flow amplifier each route , up to like 200-300m before next watertank

[viscid plover]

man why am i even trying lol

[dawn flax]

since u didn't read the next lines, that's on you

[frail trail]

More pump

[viscid plover]

no you just dumb lol

[uneven sand]

wait so if one material gets created every 2 seconds should I divide one pump between two machines?

[dawn flax]

well at least i gonna admit, unlike you

[lusty violet]

yes, if it consumes 0.5 water / s

[frail trail]

1 pump is only enough for 2 machines running at 100% efficiency

[uneven sand]

gotcha thanks!

[viscid plover]

i was right the whole time, what are you even blabbering about lol

i should admit im right? sure i guess?

[lusty violet]

if the new mining needs, say, 0.5 water/s to work... it doesn't matter where the pump is it still needs power

[dawn flax]

you are right, that increase mining need more power, but it doesn't need whole infrastructure to transfer those power to the mining site unlike existing miners

just pipes

[viscid plover]

im saying it needs power like the previous existing miners
you created a stawman i never claimed

[viral wharf]

Curious if the conduits will still keep the 2/s

[dawn flax]

you claimed, i just argue

[viscid plover]

so your arguement is " i made up an arguement so you have to play into this narrative you never said"

[frail trail]

Moment

[dawn flax]

yoou claim that "no electricity is a lie" i didn't say "no, i said "not really"

[viscid plover]

gotcha

the dev said no need for electricity which is a lie
in their dev video they said "only need water" but how do you get water?
water pump
and water pump need electricity/power

[shrewd knoll]

if the water is already stored, theres no need for electricity

[viscid plover]

the water tank into water tank

[dawn flax]

let him claim, i won't bother

[lusty violet]

the dev did say, doesn't need to be connected to the grid... which i guess is right in a sense

[dawn flax]

it's still theorical from existing capacity, will see

[lusty violet]

so no one is right

[crude nebula]

what facility to revert jincao solution to water?

[frail trail]

None(?)

[crude nebula]

i though i can reverse input the crucible thing

[dawn flax]

crucible's existing formula does't has reversing eh?

[crude nebula]

they don't because i learned the hard way

[dawn flax]

your jincao solution is in the pond or bottled?

[crude nebula]

pond

[viscid plover]

https://youtu.be/JQhpNba8dlQ?si=qNH9faI0cXZ3jEoK&t=1866
in the video the dev said "顾名思义 这类矿区无需接入电力 而是利用水流经行驱动“

[marble yarrow]

time to use the 40k pond for liquid xiranite holding for the next battery, i guess

[lusty violet]

oh.. im on english

[dawn flax]

you can drain Jinzhao pond into Filling machine by pump, (with an empty ferrium bottle feed) to re-bottle them

i guess

[crude nebula]

i dont need them, i use syringe

[viscid plover]

but yea from what they said it's different from that translation

[lusty violet]

aaah ok

[crude nebula]

i though they will become white-green colored in the pond like the image preview of it

[dawn flax]

then the rebottled jinzhao-bottle straight to packaging unit (with the ferrium part) into syringe

[crude nebula]

nah i rather put 80 water storage to remove it instantly

[dawn flax]

ok that's your sytem, i'll respect yours

[dawn flax]

then good luck finding your own way to make use of the pond

or ask others

if u have space for 80 watertanks, sure

[peak vigil]

Good morning. Look at my factory

[dawn flax]

if it's me i will converge pipe with existing one to the filling unit in syringe-production line

[stone apex]

Uh how do you switch the planting unit to fluid mode?

[dawn flax]

although the buckpowder output can double belt from there, the medpack is long 10 secs process anyway, may not make much diff

[dawn flax]

in wuling?

[viscid plover]

click the on

[crude nebula]

it's more like i need more ferrium to craft more bottle

[stone apex]

Hmm i dont have it?

Any formula i got to unlock

[viscid plover]

only available in wuling

[crude nebula]

it's on the research tree in wuling

[stone apex]

I am in wuling?

[viscid plover]

^

[crude nebula]

you still in valley 4?

then you cant do the water mode

[dawn flax]

u can just convirge the draining of pond to existing pipe from Crucible to your filling unit in your Syringe production line?

[stone apex]

I am in wuling tho?

[crude nebula]

to creaft syringe you use yanzhen

[dawn flax]

oh right, sry i forgor that

[crude nebula]

have you check research tree ?

[viscid plover]

learn this

[dawn flax]

then only way is to rebottle it, afaik, unless others has better solution

or your dozens of watertanks

[crude nebula]

yeah i will prepare 80 watertanks BP, maybe someone need it later

[turbid venture]

i just wanted to know if i loop the seed-picking unit and planting unit if the amount of seeds i get will eventually increase, i know theres the simulation but i sped through it and honestly cant remember much

[dawn flax]

u can store group of watertanks somewhere in the map, outside AIC area

[stone apex]

hmm ok thanks

[viscid plover]

depends on the plant

[crude nebula]

imo, it's easier to setup pipe to AIC rather than to squeeze 80 tanks outside AIC

[turbid venture]

sandleafs?

[viscid plover]

sandleaf you need 1 seeder 2 planter

[dawn flax]

you set a single pipe from the pond to all your grouping of watertanks, all connected to each other

and once u need it, reroute the pipe connecting and reverse flow

[turbid venture]

ye i have a couple, but they're only pumping like 3 at a time because i never really focused on the factory until now, so i just wanted to know if it would increase after a while or do i just make a sperate one to farm sandleafs

[crude nebula]

are you sure you want to open menu to reverse each batch of pipe sections?

[viscid plover]

make separate to farm it
safer that way

[lusty violet]

did u throw in a stack of sandleaf into the seeder? it needs enough to go continuously

[dawn flax]

inlet = connect pipe to the first watertank
outlet = connect pipe to the last watertank

[crude nebula]

will they automatically reverse the flow?

[turbid venture]

like 10-20 in 2 then like 3 in another 2, my world ran out

[lusty violet]

when u get more, fill up the other 2 and its good

[dawn flax]

order your pipe to reverse flow first, then reconnect pipe to the inlet-outlet config

[viscid plover]

are you telling me you've been manually picking up sandleaf all over the world?

[turbid venture]

yerppp, i honestly didnt touch my factory until now (ive completed the main story and quest) so ive just been trying to pick up the crumbs

[viscid plover]

"if it ain't picked by sweat and tears it ain't worth using" what a gigachad moment

[turbid venture]

literally was using the eco farm thing until i googled a simpler way

[viscid plover]

welcome to AIC i guess

[turbid venture]

hate it and love it here

[viscid plover]

[dawn flax]

A slight rotation to face the planting output on another side

[viscid plover]

blocked by invisible walls

[ornate frigate]

.sigma2

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-takdes-takundes-lowlight-arknights-meme-gif-7306430653055212822

[viscid plover]

quite ridiculous

[dawn flax]

remind me of a zipline that connected, until it wouldn't soon after, without changing

[viscid plover]

i have a wuling zupline that can only go one way

you can't reverse back because "obstacle"

[dawn flax]

is the larger zipline (110m) taller than regular one (80m)?

can that help?

[crude nebula]

80 water storages for pond. Asia Code: EFO01I3Au478ea9E5o08

[viscid plover]

no because you can't connect 80m to 110m and travel over 80m in the first place

[crude nebula]

You can connect but cant create auto route

[dawn flax]

i see

[viscid plover]

"you can't travel over 80m"

[crude nebula]

My AIC use the 80m but the one next to it use 110m, work both ways

[viscid plover]

yea within 80m right?

[crude nebula]

But cant use the fast route thing

Wait let me see

[frail trail]

I forgot to spend my 1.2k credit last night

there were arsenal ticket on sale

[viscid plover]

account 🧱 time to reroll

[lean stag]

Yo guys I want to place my first depot bus in wuling but it’s not letting me?

[crude nebula]

unlock limit in stewards

[lean stag]

Where’s that

[crude nebula]

the white-yellow robot near AIC

[lean stag]

Yeah I got that

But when I try place it it says 1/0

But I haven’t placed any yet

[dawn flax]

can't remember if it need certain AIC level before able to placing one?

[lean stag]

I think mine is lvl 3

[dawn flax]

at max level, can place 2

[lean stag]

Ok

Thx

[dawn flax]

also the branch of it, where i personally call them "trench"

[frail trail]

the thingymabob

[uneven sand]

should I let my shredding unit with sandleaf powder stay clogged cuz im only using 2 belts or should I create another blueprint that maximizes it? cuz either way either I make WAY too much sandleaf or I make too much sandleaf powder

[lusty violet]

clog is fine

[uneven sand]

thanks

[dawn flax]

can full 3 belts out with sustained circulation in sandleaf planters

or 2 belts for production and 1 belt to Stash is fine too

[crude nebula]

yeah you can't with the 80m to reach the 100m

also vice versa

[dawn flax]

can 110m-zipline overcome 80m-zipline "invisible-obstacle-glitch"? by being taller?

[brave stump]

no

[viscid plover]

LMAO i like this image

[dawn flax]

i see

[brave stump]

Otherwise I would be able to connect there

[viscid plover]

lol i have a whole system here just to see tangtang place

[brave stump]

lmao

[crude nebula]

bruh eveyone can't wait patiently to see leader's village

[viscid plover]

that's also how to get into the gate before 1.1

lol this is the 1way travel i mentioned earlier

[viral wharf]

Only really matters imo when you're going for max efficiency productions. Not possible in Wuling atm though.

[frail trail]

https://tenor.com/view/bazinga-gif-11684587356255656885

what is even going on with those zipline

[dawn flax]

zipline Mk3 aka. "Cable car" when

[crude nebula]

who need zipline when you have TP

[vapid dock]

we're finally mining copium ore

[brave stump]

F