aic-factory

[craggy whale]

the priority splitter

[atomic fiber]

I haven't tried the https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1476003772890218638 yet

but i made this

[unreal laurel]

any suggestions on a component to battery ratio?

[craggy whale]

but the example was using 3 lanes of stash

not splitter

[unreal laurel]

im not crafting nearly enough to justify making much components

[craggy whale]

thats what kinda confusing me tbh

[atomic fiber]

uh... i will try make a vid later, if i have time

[craggy whale]

but this is a gate system

?

XD

[atomic fiber]

yeah... the old stuff XD

[vestal tiger]

Well
I certainly fely like having one when I saw it

[atomic fiber]

the new one later

[craggy whale]

i mean gatekeeper is handy if u want to have any output u want

[vestal tiger]

Oof
When nurses know what you're suffering but ain allowed to diagnose

[craggy whale]

since u can time in it

but to make it every 2 second is a bit hard

[vestal tiger]

0:1

[craggy whale]

since its not removed its probably considered as "feature"

[unreal laurel]

i dont even think i craft that many

or did u say zero component?

[cobalt iris]

That's the crazy part they couldn't find anything wrong they did blood work and chest X rays 😂😂.

It's a hell of a story 🤷‍♂️

[unreal laurel]

can u explain the item control ports limit thingy

[unreal laurel]

seems pointless to have a belt that only supplies a limited number of smth

[somber snow]

oh wow, that works

[analog elbow]

Finally

[unreal laurel]

nice

what does the item port limit actually do?

[analog elbow]

It limits the amount and type of items that passes through

[somber snow]

it limits the amount of items that goes through

[unreal laurel]

why would a belt ever need a 1time limit

[analog elbow]

For complex belting ofc

[craggy whale]

it just limits how many items can passed through

and basically closed after its reached that amount

its not a really good solution tbh

to use item control limit

for a thing that u want to limit

but lets say the ratio is 1:1 to consume it

i guess its fine

since theres limit number on that thing too that can handle

i mean u can double it using splitter

[unreal laurel]

is it truly a 1time hard limit

cause that makes no sense

[craggy whale]

or triple it

[vestal tiger]

Wow
Crazy indeed

[analog elbow]

Yes. You need to set it off manually again

[cobalt iris]

Some of the powders are quick af

[craggy whale]

yeah

thats why me and phantom creating the gate system

but it requires timer to hit it

[analog elbow]

It's still useful for me to limit my Components production.

[unreal laurel]

Bruhhh

[craggy whale]

and the timer atleast needs to be higher or equal to the amount u hit

[analog elbow]

Don't wanna login just to switch my gearing unit off

[unreal laurel]

How does converger priority work

[analog elbow]

Welp i already forgot

And now i have 25K+ Components

[craggy whale]

basically its refuse to let the source from splitter when theres other source other than splitter

[craggy whale]

this is the thing

the example

[unreal laurel]

Say that again

But english

[craggy whale]

its english

?

wym

it just what i just said

[unreal laurel]

Better English

[craggy whale]

lol

[digital portal]

I need some help. -> why the yield is this low when I have mining rigs everywhere ? is this normal ?

[analog elbow]

Then something is wrong with your rigs

Or what regional level are you?

[craggy whale]

so basically splitter converger works is, converger has 3 sources so u can converge em in right? and if theres other source than "splitter" in there they took it as first priority than the splitter. so when splitter works as "source" for converger will have least priority to converger

[digital portal]

my regional level is 9, very close to 10

[somber snow]

imagine if the guy use
mk1s instead of mk2s

[analog elbow]

Uhhhh

Have you completed the main story

[craggy whale]

@unreal laurel

can u understand this?

[unreal laurel]

So it's priotitises stuff over splitter

[digital portal]

I only started Wulling

[craggy whale]

yep

[analog elbow]

Is this wuling or valley graphs

[digital portal]

valley

[merry wagon]

I think the game just outright prevents you from placing anything apart from mk2 rigs on ferrium

[craggy whale]

and by using this feature you can make a gate system

[digital portal]

Im sure I used mk2 lol

[analog elbow]

Then your rigs are the problem.

Check your uhh Relays

[craggy whale]

basically gatekeeping something to let em go inside and use control port so the output that u desire is the only one u can let em in

[somber snow]

probably just not powered then

[analog elbow]

Yeah he might have moved a relay

[craggy whale]

mk2?

what is mk2 lol

[analog elbow]

Minors

I mean Miners

[merry wagon]

[humble widget]

is metastorage transfer ferrium to Wuling useful?
Because I am lacking in ferrium for the drinks

[somber snow]

yes

[merry wagon]

that's what most people use them for, yes

[unreal laurel]

Yep,run a 115 setup

[somber snow]

itll bump it up from 90/min to 115/min

[analog elbow]

Yes

[unreal laurel]

Bruhh

[humble widget]

Ohhh.
Understood

[craggy whale]

fk

[humble widget]

But still not even close to full production

[unreal laurel]

My brother who uses the wifi literally found the only way in the universe to give me a ping worse than 999
I think he needs some oripathy

[analog elbow]

What do you mean by Full Production

[rocky niche]

have you unlocked all ferrium ore nodes? if your usage is still more than your yield, you would end up with 0% battery and your whole production lines will stop

[humble widget]

That all machines do not stop. 1 packager per drink

[unreal laurel]

HOW TF DOES HE MAKE THE PING THIS BAD

[analog elbow]

You should get around this Production Rate on Meds in wuling

[unreal laurel]

the game has a pretty lenient disconnect window but it means nothing against the ping he's creating

[craggy whale]

theres electricity that inactive ?

[scenic swift]

someone cut the power lines 🤡

[rocky niche]

i've seen somewhere that instead of ferrium ores for metastorage, they use ferrium bottles instead

[unreal laurel]

AHHH

hows the ping this bad

my conveyors are literally lagging

[rocky niche]

either they check their power lines or check the usage yield of production lines

[digital portal]

I dont think so. true I have a very few nodes not being mined yet, but the yield is still very low

[craggy whale]

what region lvl r u

based on what i know the highest purity will gain u like 60/min

[rocky niche]

are those mining rigs connected to powerlines?

[craggy whale]

i think

or 30/min im not sure

[digital portal]

Im close to 10 and yes they are connected to power lines

[craggy whale]

hmmm

can u vid ur map

[humble widget]

Maybe you have them in storage mode instead of Belt-free T/F?

[rocky niche]

isnt placing rigs automatically make them belt free transfer?

[digital portal]

I never changed the default settings

[humble widget]

Yes, but IDK if they changed it

I also do not know why would you want them in storage mode at all

[digital portal]

oh damm, I found the issue. Originium science park is not powered at all, cuz I moved the sub AIC unit and the line got cut xD

[craggy whale]

ye

[rocky niche]

always check powerlines

[unreal laurel]

so a source from say this splitter can only send 1 item every cycle

[craggy whale]

44 ore vein yield 1080

[unreal laurel]

am i getting that right?

[craggy whale]

wait its only 1080 wth

[unreal laurel]

....

[craggy whale]

wym

you do it wrong bro

splitter connect converge

why u converge and then splitter

[unreal laurel]

see the splitter on the bottom and gap in the loop in the top?

[unreal laurel]

the splitter is the bottom one,wdym

[rocky niche]

squiggly belt lines makes product take longer transfer time?

[craggy whale]

what r u trying to do here

the splitter doesnt to connect everything

[unreal laurel]

when the gap in the loop reachs the converger,an item from the splitter gets through?

[craggy whale]

oh you mean that

yeah

[unreal laurel]

am i doing it right?

[craggy whale]

but you cant use that as gating

[unreal laurel]

why not

[atomic fiber]

@craggy whale I have recorded the behavior with stash

[craggy whale]

so we use a flow so that converge side has always item in it

[unreal laurel]

the input of the splitter is now limited by the loop aint it?

[craggy whale]

but it only has 2 facility tho

why it has that behaviour

[craggy whale]

which loop

[rocky niche]

i saw youtube short saying a player used pulse width modulation to control the usage rate of battery, and they use splitters and convergers to do that

[craggy whale]

yeah the adaptive one right

im not quite to liking to adaptive one

[unreal laurel]

the sand loop limits the spiltter spd to match period of loop doesnt it

or am i mistaken

[atomic fiber]

because the 3 converger is placed near stash output. here another recording

[craggy whale]

i think this is mroe understandable

[unreal laurel]

absolutely not

[craggy whale]

XD

the reason bcs u cant use it as gating bcs u dont have trigger

to when the item needs to let it through

the way you can make it through is by using the gaps

that you mentioned earlier

[unreal laurel]

arent i defining the cycle by how long the belt is?

[craggy whale]

the cycle long doesnt really matter

since belt moved speed with 0.5/s and keeps following behind

so as long the cycle flow is already filled

[unreal laurel]

quite sure it determines how long it takes for the gap to reach the converger again

[craggy whale]

no item can go through

[unreal laurel]

can u use easier words...

[craggy whale]

so lets say you use this feature right

u have the splitter and the converge

since u have 2 source one from belt

and other one from splitter

[unreal laurel]

go on

[craggy whale]

you need to make the timing when will the splitter source will going through the converge right

since both lines are moving with speed of 0.5/s

since the other source will always go through due the behaviour of converger

[unreal laurel]

so youre saying the splitter isnt sending an item every 0.5sec so it fails half the time?

[craggy whale]

no thats mean the splitter wont sending any item

since both moving with same speed

theres no gap or timing the splitter will going through the converger

[unreal laurel]

cant the splitter detect the .5 sec window and use it

[craggy whale]

no both moving 0.5/s

do u understand that?

[unreal laurel]

ig

[craggy whale]

since both moving same speed

its like zebra cross u know

when u gonna go to other side with zebra cross

u wait for the ride to slow or stop right

so can u pass the zebra cross

[unreal laurel]

yep

[atomic fiber]

[craggy whale]

yeah thats what the splitter and convergers are

since theres no car stop u cant go through

[unreal laurel]

so the 0.5sec gap isnt enough window space?

[craggy whale]

no

[unreal laurel]

hb 1sec?

[rocky niche]

i dont understand the image. does the lines use item ports that only allows specific item to flow thru? does the circled image of items the item ports?

[craggy whale]

ye

[craggy whale]

u need make 1 item gap

wait

0.5 sec

its not enuff

since belt moved /2 sec

[unreal laurel]

so 1sec?

[craggy whale]

oh shit

i did say 0.5/s

yeah thats what it means right

[unreal laurel]

0.5 to detect and 0.5 to cross?

[craggy whale]

ye

[unreal laurel]

dont confuse me more mate

[craggy whale]

since belt moved on 0.5item/sec

[unreal laurel]

so take 1 item out of my loop and itll work

[craggy whale]

ye

thats why u use the timer

to let it know when it will going through

[unreal laurel]

isnt this timer simpler

[craggy whale]

now now this is the question

u cant have splitter going same timing even if u multiply them

bcs due to this randomness

but theres a guy study on splitter priority but its not splitter smh it stash

so im confused as well

[unreal laurel]

whut

english mate

i aint british

[rocky niche]

splitter doesnt do randomness, splitter lines just rotates around on the available lines

[craggy whale]

the start point

[unreal laurel]

or whatever variation of the tongue youre speaking

[craggy whale]

u cant set start point

but u have always one rotation

[craggy whale]

since the timer is limited to only 1

no

[unreal laurel]

wtf are u saying now

mate,im lost

[craggy whale]

what i mean is by using 1 timer means u can only make 1 item as gap for the timer to trigger

[unreal laurel]

whut

[craggy whale]

sorry mate i speak c#

[sudden night]

how am i supposed to remove that obstacle?

[unreal laurel]

english please,my brain is fried atm

[craggy whale]

[unreal laurel]

kaboom

[craggy whale]

so lets say you have this timer right

[unreal laurel]

left

[craggy whale]

but can u make 4 gaps in a row with this timer?

[sudden night]

??????

[unreal laurel]

if ping doesnt brick it

[craggy whale]

try it then

[unreal laurel]

just to clarify what youre saying,u want a gap of 4items consecatively?

[lone pebble]

u dont u put it here

[craggy whale]

ye

or more

[unreal laurel]

why?

[craggy whale]

it just based on what u need basically

[sudden night]

zipline there?

[unreal laurel]

whatre we talking abt again

[sudden night]

a

[craggy whale]

the gaps on the converger side

thats what we talking about

[unreal laurel]

what about it

[lone pebble]

y

[craggy whale]

since timer most of time can only trigger 1 items to let in thorugh the flow u have on the converger

[sudden night]

How did they do this here

[unreal laurel]

go on

[unreal laurel]

whats this bricked zipline

[craggy whale]

the reason why this exist is to basically to have any numbers u can go in to the flow

[unreal laurel]

cant i just give my converger side a larger gap to accomodate

[craggy whale]

or basically matching the output u need when it triggers

[sudden night]

Idk

[craggy whale]

no since the gap u will make from timer is only 1 item?

[lone pebble]

dont mind the other zip`s

[craggy whale]

so u only have the gap for 1 item

[unreal laurel]

are u saying yours adjusts itself?

whatre u saying?

[craggy whale]

sinec the timer to trigger cannot send like 4 items directly to the flow

[unreal laurel]

u can cut through like that?

[unreal laurel]

why not,cause splitter cuts spd in half?

[craggy whale]

@atomic fiber i maybe not good at explainig

can u elaborate

[unreal laurel]

[atomic fiber]

i don't even know what you guys talking about

what even the context

[unreal laurel]

clocks

[craggy whale]

cuz the timer will only send 1 item every split you doing

[craggy whale]

the splitter converger context

[lean stag]

Hey uhh what do I do to fix this or get more power output?

[atomic fiber]

it mean what it mean, basically just a simple timer... that time if 1 or more item is being send to a belt

[unreal laurel]

get more power

[lean stag]

How

[somber snow]

u need to put down thermals

[unreal laurel]

thermal bank

[lean stag]

Ok

[unreal laurel]

start smoking the cancer rock

[lean stag]

Yayyyy

Drugs

[unreal laurel]

yep

[unreal laurel]

just go for it

[somber snow]

u can use:

1. originium
2. LC battery
3. SC battery
4. HC battery

to power the thermal,
as you go down the list, they become more efficient

[unreal laurel]

smoke all the cancer rock

[atomic fiber]

I still have this timer vid

[atomic fiber]

5 battery in a row every 64 sec

[craggy whale]

from base of all, the question started with splitter had a least priority when theres other source than splitter when connected to the converger. but he thought that the source from splitter will get in after few items from other sources going through the converger. but i told him that since both sources moved within same speed they couldnt and the other source than splitter will only going through

[unreal laurel]

wtf r y saying

[craggy whale]

and thats why this case led us to the timer

[atomic fiber]

[unreal laurel]

u speaking greek or smth?

[craggy whale]

[unreal laurel]

[craggy whale]

nah brother

[atomic fiber]

lmao

[craggy whale]

im speaking indian

[unreal laurel]

[craggy whale]

so bronya

help

[atomic fiber]

dunno

[unreal laurel]

🚋

[craggy whale]

or maybe ask the creator

@severe nexus

[unreal laurel]

hellicopter,hellicopter

[lone pebble]

use originium in thermal bank

[severe nexus]

i have been summoned

[craggy whale]

this @severe nexus

[unreal laurel]

the summoning ritual worked!!

[craggy whale]

[atomic fiber]

🥳

[lean stag]

Uhhh guys how do I get stuff from my valley 4 depot to my wuling depot?

[lone pebble]

via Dijiang

[unreal laurel]

dijiang manual transfer

[somber snow]

go to dijiang

[lean stag]

Ok

[severe nexus]

i wont lie i built this and i also cant understand your explanation

[craggy whale]

[unreal laurel]

i knew ZRoku wasnt speaking english

[craggy whale]

thats why im bad at explaining

[severe nexus]

i think there were like 3 sentences in there, from which you removed all punctuation

[unreal laurel]

🎳

[severe nexus]

what was the original question

[craggy whale]

even in my first lang im still bad at it

[unreal laurel]

🇮

[craggy whale]

the splitter cannot going through since other source moved in same speed

[unreal laurel]

🇩

i cant find the k,idk what to do

[somber snow]

🇰

[unreal laurel]

how to clock a clock

🇰

[atomic fiber]

🇨

[unreal laurel]

u missed the f

[atomic fiber]

what?

[severe nexus]

clock is easier to make with two phase design, meaning you have two control items that alternate the role of blocking the output belt

[unreal laurel]

shit,i dont have the f either

[unreal laurel]

can u help me out

[severe nexus]

the design showed in the video is much more sensitive in terms of timing

[somber snow]

🇮 🇱 🇴 🇻 🇪 🇨 🇭 🇪 🇳

[craggy whale]

which vid

[unreal laurel]

why cant this work

[severe nexus]

this one

[craggy whale]

🇮 🇱 🇴 🇻 🇪 🇲 🇮 🇫 🇺

[severe nexus]

what are you trying to do here

[atomic fiber]

what that even want to do?

[unreal laurel]

clock a clock so i can attach 2 clocks to make an adjustable clock for an adjustable battery clock

[severe nexus]

theres too many clocks in that sentence for me to understand

[atomic fiber]

clock what?

[severe nexus]

but you may find this helpful https://www.skport.com/article?id=2021889288185100581

[somber snow]

adding a clock system to your backup gen?

[craggy whale]

error sir

oh nvm

its there

[unreal laurel]

i wanna figure out how to clock a clock so i can use 1 clock to receive an item from another clock when power dies so the 2nd clock loses an item and use this 2nd clock to adjust the clock on a battery loop where each item lost is like x amount of watts

u get what im trying to do?

[severe nexus]

hmm ok

im kind of understanding

[unreal laurel]

i wanna build adjustable power supply for wuling cause i keep bricking my power

ive already had 2 outages

that lasted hrs

[severe nexus]

so basically you have a belt loop with items, and you want to take an item out of that loop every time power crashes

[unreal laurel]

yep

[craggy whale]

didnt somebody make it

[unreal laurel]

from my understanding,u use a splitter and converger to connect two clocks or smth

[unreal laurel]

yeah but i wanna learn from stratch

[severe nexus]

i wouldnt call them clocks

[craggy whale]

isnt it different usage than the gate

ugh

[fathom glade]

you can do the calculations from scratch

[unreal laurel]

close enough

[fathom glade]

or you can use DIGE as a reference

[unreal laurel]

potato,lettuce

[fathom glade]

i made my own calculator as a fun exercise

[craggy whale]

the problem is its needed when power outage

[fathom glade]

? wdym?

[unreal laurel]

(40surplus/deficit)+40=x
u mean this?

[fathom glade]

yeah basically

[unreal laurel]

i already know the dige math

[fathom glade]

you can just do the quick math and solve

oh gotchu

[unreal laurel]

all batteries run at 1/40 right?

if not,ill have to remember to adjust the 40 which ive been using as a constant

[fathom glade]

All thermal banks run at 1/40 yes

You can use splitters and mergers to change that number

[unreal laurel]

ic,ill be fine then

[fathom glade]

(by limit rating the feed)

👍

[unreal laurel]

wait a min.....

why tf are we using dige

[fathom glade]

DIGE helps to do the same calculation

It does two loop solutions for really difficult ones

[unreal laurel]

i meant the splitter buffoonary

[fathom glade]

so you can use base+ mod1+mod2

Oh, PWM?

That's because typically, your batteries have a set power value

[severe nexus]

pwm is inconsistent

[unreal laurel]

why not just build a belt clock thats like 1sec off from your cycle?

[fathom glade]

I think we might be talking about the same thing but i'll need you to explain what a belt clock is

[unreal laurel]

yeah,why not this but adjusted to your exact requirement

[versed ingot]

are there any ores in this area

[fathom glade]

bc of server yes, but you budget that error in

[somber snow]

no

[unreal laurel]

looks like an accurate clock to me

fortunately not

theres a quest to clear the mist but i still hate it

[fathom glade]

What does this do? It only seems to slow the phase, but I don't quite understand how you want to implement it in the big picture

[unreal laurel]

see the gap in the loop?

why not have a loop tailored to your battery usage so the converger accepts a battery at the equivalent rate

[versed ingot]

but i have all rigs powered and i have a yield of 60 ferrium per minute while the blueprint needs 90 per minute

[fathom glade]

Oh I see what you're doing

[unreal laurel]

better than splitter shenanigance imo

[fathom glade]

Because very 6s it just bumps it with belt free transfer

[severe nexus]

splitters are generally more compact

[fathom glade]

I understand, but it's space inefficient

Splitter shenanigans are actually quite simple

in terms of setting them up and space effiiciency

[unreal laurel]

so my idea works in principle if i make the gap wide enough to actually accept a splitter input

[fathom glade]

I can make a 1/432s stream with only 6 splitters

but i don't think yours is that efficient, correct?

[somber snow]

u mustve missed some nodes then in wuling city

[fathom glade]

As an example:

[unreal laurel]

i just dont wanna do splitter math

[fathom glade]

This throttles the HC battery at 432s

[severe nexus]

yeah

[fathom glade]

There is a utility called DIGE that does the mathf or you

space config too

[unreal laurel]

yeah but i dont wanna use tools

[severe nexus]

the link i sent is a post of a working design based on the same principle as yours

[somber snow]

nvm, disregard what i just said,
theres only 1 node with 6 mining sites

[fathom glade]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[unreal laurel]

i rather math the math myself

[fathom glade]

The math isn't that much harder

[somber snow]

3 high purity, and 3 low purity,
u just have to increase your RDL

[unreal laurel]

youre trying to use dividers of 2 and 3 to make a number that exactly matches the 1/x from
(40surplus/deficit)+40=x

[fathom glade]

Yes

[unreal laurel]

how is that easy

[fathom glade]

Doesn't seem too difficult

[versed ingot]

oh wait its on me i must've messed with it and broke something, 2 rigs became unpowered for some reason, sorry and thanks

[unreal laurel]

give my a 1/7 rn

[fathom glade]

put it in excel with tocol() tables and you can get the numbers

[unreal laurel]

that just leads back into tools

[unreal laurel]

give me a 1/7 rn with pure math

prove its easy

[fathom glade]

Look i don't disagree with you

but like

tools can be used for a reason

They're an extension of how you do things

i don't understand your resistance against tools

[craggy whale]

isnt tools used for reason so u dont need to do math

[fathom glade]

I don't disagree that your method works for simpler fractions

[unreal laurel]

personal choice

[fathom glade]

but for more complex numbers, it's a lot easier to just plonk it in a calculator and have it do it for you

[unreal laurel]

yeah but im too lazy to do that

i think my wuling is running a 1/128 rn even though i only need 1/140

[fathom glade]

I'm not here to argue, I'm just saying. I can see merits in your methods for simple fractions. Using splitters makes it easier though

[unreal laurel]

the precision is definitely lower,but its not that bad

[fathom glade]

128 is the simplest number if you dont want to use a 2 loop chain

[unreal laurel]

exactly,u see my point

i just dont feel like using a calculator for the additional precision

[fathom glade]

And you can achieve that with 6 splitters

2^7=128

Like i said, dont disagree with you. PWM already is a bit overkill anyway, this is just trying to choose which option benefits you more

your way is better for simpler fractions but is less space efficient.

that's all

[unreal laurel]

thats why im taking the middle ground

optimised to a degree but not fully

its alot easier to explain than dige and pwm

[cobalt hedge]

i'm trying to wrap my head around these factory components to the best of my ability so forgive me if i'm missing crucial information, but why isn't this working?

[fathom glade]

It's the same thing

PWM is just pulse width modulation

you are doing the same thing

you are just achieving a different method of PWM

by using clocking

[unreal laurel]

it just breaks sometimes, delete and place again

[fathom glade]

instead of splitters

[atomic fiber]

are your pump powered? did you use too much splitter?

[lone pebble]

turn 180 , it will work

[fathom glade]

Is your splitter 180°

because your splitter outlet is facing your feed

[atomic fiber]

oh... yeah the rotation

[unreal laurel]

nah,just 179.99999999041

[atomic fiber]

rotate 180°

[cobalt hedge]

it was part of a tutorial, guess it just wasn't working previously. i did make sure the flow input was the correct direction

works now, thanks

[unreal laurel]

like i said

it just breaks sometimes

u just need to give it the off and on treatment

[lean stag]

How much power is too much power

[somber snow]

idk,
how much do u have,
and how much r u using

[lean stag]

700 power and im using 255

[unreal laurel]

49thermal banks in wuling to be exact

[lean stag]

I over reacted

[somber snow]

if u rnt planning on using that,
better tone it down

[crude nebula]

what are you using 49 thermals for?

[craggy whale]

its still small scale

[unreal laurel]

whats the originium in v4?

540?

[lean stag]

Bc when I saw a timer I thought my aic would blow up

[craggy whale]

dont worry muchb about it

[craggy whale]

60?

[lean stag]

So I made some thermal banks

[unreal laurel]

60?

whats the yield

[craggy whale]

oh fk thats my usage nvm

oh wait its 560 i just misred

[pulsar cypress]

560, but iirc the used one 540 max?

[crude nebula]

ugh

[craggy whale]

[crude nebula]

summon mod

[unreal laurel]

gimme a sec....

[crude nebula]

lol

[somber snow]

yield is 560,
optimised use is 540

[craggy whale]

its all for the sake of battery

[unreal laurel]

75

lemme use the build in calculator on anotjer server rq

[frail shale]

Why put orange rock in battery if orange rock alone do job of power

[atomic fiber]

rock

[crude nebula]

i mean 5 power vs 200 something...

[craggy whale]

bcs orange rock doesnt provide that much power >:(

[crude nebula]

you mean cancer rock

[frail shale]

Not with that altitude

[craggy whale]

so true

[pulsar cypress]

And u will spam batteries everywhere if using rock..

[unreal laurel]

75thermal banks in v4 or 49thermal banks in wuling

thats definitely the right answer

[frail shale]

Where are you guys finding the object limit for these things

[craggy whale]

u mean facility limits? iirc it was 768

[unreal laurel]

[craggy whale]

u cant find the number if u havent maxed it out

these numbers are scam tbh

[crude nebula]

yeah i just found one when i tried to do some art in science park

[unreal laurel]

u should try powering 49thermal banks in wuling

[crude nebula]

i think this is for the one on the outside of AIC

[craggy whale]

nah i just powering 3 thermal banks

[unreal laurel]

power 49,trust

[craggy whale]

[crude nebula]

such as stash and pylon

[unreal laurel]

u NEED 49

[crude nebula]

you need 67

[craggy whale]

you need 69

[crude nebula]

[unreal laurel]

fr tho,u need to power 49thermal banks for a special cutscene

[craggy whale]

nah

i wont do that man

[unreal laurel]

trust me

trust in the horse

its the year of the horse rn and wuling is chinese so why not

[craggy whale]

@atomic fiber so the conclusion about #1476003772890218638 is failed?

[atomic fiber]

what?
what failed?

[unreal laurel]

so they failed to make a priority splitter?

[craggy whale]

the whole conclusion there from the creators since it cant make same behaviour when u deletes all and etc

[pulsar cypress]

Btw, been wondering..
Do we have a menu/area to do like blueprint making simulation?

Making blueprint pattern without disrupting/influencing the current one in aic?

[crude nebula]

not yet

[unreal laurel]

no

[craggy whale]

sadly u need to make it in your own space

[pulsar cypress]

-_-)

[unreal laurel]

we need a mirror button imo

having to manually mirror a design hurts

[atomic fiber]

no, it only start doing the random priority once you copy paste with blueprint. but even then that can be avoided

[pulsar cypress]

Yass.. That too..

[craggy whale]

we need a god portal button

[unreal laurel]

we need u to cook 49banks of originium

[crude nebula]

we need creative mode already

[craggy whale]

by configuring it manually again?>

[atomic fiber]

depend on the blueprint
but not all

[unreal laurel]

so its deemed a failure cause it needs manually tinkering?

[craggy whale]

i mean the jp guys prove it

[unreal laurel]

prove it doesnt work?

idk what youre saying

[craggy whale]

yep

[unreal laurel]

why not

[crude nebula]

because he proved it

[craggy whale]

#1476003772890218638 message

[atomic fiber]

but he also said if it work once then it will behave like so permanently. so just need to make it works once

[craggy whale]

not like it always work

[unreal laurel]

just git gud and try again

[craggy whale]

at the first

i guess self configuring it again

[crude nebula]

RNG with belt

[atomic fiber]

the problem is only when pasting blueprint on specific design

so not all design is like that

it's the same with the belt and splitter that we do btw

that one also can fail

[craggy whale]

ye

same with converger and splitter

can also fail most of time

[atomic fiber]

i feel like anything that is splitter or converger related always have inconsistency

which is why some people just replace those 2 all together with stash

use stash as splitter and converger lol

[unreal laurel]

i did that once

bricked my battery setup

[craggy whale]

i mean it works

[craggy whale]

how

[unreal laurel]

clogged my stash with seeds

[craggy whale]

did u not use item control

[pulsar cypress]

Seed or plants always need their own personal stash..
Also the shredded powder material one..
Fast filling the stash.. Especially if already full in depot..

[atomic fiber]

that is your design error. Should not put battery together with seed on stash

[unreal laurel]

yeah but it was running a 2/3powder so seeds backed up into the stash

[unreal laurel]

its bricked by design

dw tho,i replaced it with a design a time shorter that doesnt do that

its kinda odd how minmaxed the game is

[viscid plover]

battery limit is closing in on me

[unreal laurel]

my HC and Crop A are both literally a tile short of the best setup

i think my cryston is like 1-2 off too

ig the last 1-2 tiles is the true barrier

[atomic fiber]

try change all Buck A line into Citrome A. then don't use Buck A anymore for outpost, just assume it as stockpile. Just use Battery, until you have the desired amount of battery on the depot. congrats now you won't be capped

[viscid plover]

already been doing that

before next advice transfer to wuling hit.

[atomic fiber]

[crimson inlet]

Woke up and decided to bankrupt Valley 4 again

I have 7 mil after buying the last figurine in Valley 4

• 1 mil because of this

[viscid plover]

lucky
i only ever get originium plant discount once at like 20+% since launch

[sick basin]

Wtfart
Cut some wbatt prod and stock more xiranite

Wait why is everything at 48k
Why do u have 48k yazhen and jancao solution bottles

[viscid plover]

already close down half the factory to make component

[sick basin]

Scary

But components arent useful anymore

[viscid plover]

how so?

[sick basin]

Well u have 30k
Youre limited to "needing" only like 5k a week because of artificing tube reset, so u dont need to produce more than that technicaly

Also imma prolly get slimed but
1.1 will bring..."upgrade"

[viscid plover]

i like your optimism

[craggy whale]

when will my luck be like this

the highest i have achieved was only 700%

:(

[young stag]

why cit a specifically

[sick basin]

Cuz if buckA is maxed, make citroneA

[viscid plover]

to turn 80k limit to 160k limit

[sick basin]

Yep

[somber snow]

wouldnt it be ezr to just make both at the same time?

[young stag]

not enough space

[young stag]

plus you could very much bankrupt an outpost and wait for it to refill

[spark hedge]

Farm

[sick basin]

Bankrupt it²

[somber snow]

not sure what this means

[young stag]

i don’t have anything to do anymore so i just log on every few days

[viscid plover]

another fascinating zipline set up i had to go see it for myself

fit within the frame horizontally

[sick basin]

What a hellish distance!

[viscid plover]

strong contender against the hub west zipline

[somber snow]

cool

[shell temple]

another one of Chen's AIC build

[vital plover]

Welp i'm stuck inside a shredder lol

[wet panther]

guys help me everything get clogged

[somber snow]

cant tell whats going on with that screenshot

[lusty violet]

guessing ur storage is full

[wet panther]

I thoughts everything is going to stash?

[lusty violet]

there's a max capacity

[somber snow]

it does

[cedar turret]

Yeah but stash has a cap

[wet panther]

[cedar turret]

80,000 cap with max depot

[somber snow]

only 200 energy, so theyre quite new
so im assuming the max is 10k

[worn creek]

Hello, is this optimized? Currently producing Xiranite batteries 12/min interchangeable into Xiranite Component 6/min, and I have a Jincao Drink at 6/min (75% efficiency) is there something missing here? (Btw energy consumption is 2.2k/2.4k (2 Valley Battery consumption per 40s))

[somber snow]

seems alr

hows ur AIC report, it gives a better visualisation of your yield and usage

u can definitely decrease your energy consumption down to 1.8k

[worn creek]

Here's mine

[atomic fiber]

yes that sound very good

[somber snow]

optimised production

[atomic fiber]

good enough I say

[somber snow]

u can definitely decrease ur energy usage,
but its not necessary

[worn creek]

I could, but I have to get rid of 1 Xiranite Battery Factory to do so

[somber snow]

no, its something else

its probably ur ziplines or ur turrets

[worn creek]

Yeah Probably, I have 38 active Zipline, all 13 Turrets are currently off, (all at Energy Alluvium)

[somber snow]

how many pumps r u using?

wait a minute

i may know why

what mining rig do u use for ur originium nodes?

[atomic fiber]

it's cheaper to run defense tower by using battery than electric pole. and that 50 stack of battery can last for very long like 3 months assuming you do them 9 times a day everyday (LC wuling battery)

[somber snow]

what mining rig do u use for ur originium nodes

[atomic fiber]

if you want to further min max your battery usage for your thermal power bank you can use PWM/DIGE

[worn creek]

I just replaced all my mining Rig from mkii into mk1

[somber snow]

just now?

if so, whats ur power usage

[worn creek]

Yup, few hours ago

[somber snow]

nvm

[atomic fiber]

if you not interested to min max, I think it's already fine tbh

[somber snow]

ooh, i see

u're not using wuling plants for carbon

[atomic fiber]

it's definitely the defense tower, that eat lots of power

[somber snow]

no its not, the turrets are off,
its the planters

[somber snow]

u need to change from sandleaf to yazhen for carbon

ill show u mine

[atomic fiber]

why that in here

[paper magnet]

dont worry about it

[somber snow]

@worn creek1 yazhen output is enough to supply 2 shredders

and u only need 1 seed picker and 1 planter for yazhen

its the same for jincao

[hidden temple]

using wuling plants for carbon cuts down 12 planting facilities down into 4

[somber snow]

no, its from 6 to 4

these fuckers with their mrbeast scam

[long flax]

Is 2 Xiranite battery production lines good enough for now or should I add more?

[somber snow]

2 is the max, so u're good

[long flax]

Thank you.

[somber snow]

it just depends on how optimised u r

[hidden temple]

it's 6 to 2 for each xiranite setup
and there are 2

[somber snow]

12/min,
if u're also making xira. comp. at 1/min,
it should be 10/min

[worn creek]

Oh yeah, forgot about planters, Wuling plants are efficient then I proceed to forget about them 💀

[peak anvil]

I need helppp, my origenum ore and ferrium ore runners out, I believe I've used every mining spot available, I need it for production😭

[somber snow]

oh wait u're right,
1 sandleaf only makes 1 carbon,
while 1 yazhen makes 2

[worn creek]

Ight, Imma go change my factory setup real quick

[somber snow]

whatever, in any case,
use wuling plants, uve gotta change

[long flax]

I'll check that out. Thank you. I'm still running components for artificing.

[somber snow]

wuling?

[peak anvil]

Valley IV. I'm new

[magic falcon]

whats your development level?

[somber snow]

this is mine,
use it to compare if ud like

[peak anvil]

What

[lusty violet]

show AIC report

[somber snow]

this thing

wrong reply

[whole zenith]

kinda lost, my wuling stockbill is almost capped, what should i do?

[somber snow]

this thing

[real crescent]

spend them

[peak anvil]

oh I'm at lvl 6

[pulsar cypress]

Block all factory.. Turn it off..
Mine some originium manually..
Put inside like 2 battery..
Refill if needed..
Let the all mining works again first to restock.
Then turn on the factory again bit by bit from the battery production that most important..

[whole zenith]

at what exactly

[peak anvil]

Lvl 6

[somber snow]

artifices,
tower of trail,
engraving tickets

sanity permits

gifts

[real crescent]

catalysts and engraving tickets. or if you have components, crafting takes 8k per

[peak anvil]

I just realized I can't use portable mining rig, it won't transfer to the depot

[somber snow]

yeah, that explains it

[magic falcon]

You can raise the quality of of your resources nodes by upgrading depots/recycling stations and outpost levels.

[pulsar cypress]

Noo.. Punch the ore with your weapon to get some manually first..
Place it at the depot..
So the power back up for a while..

[peak anvil]

Yeah the power is up for now, I'm just shocked it's ended

[magic falcon]

have you unlocked tier 1 miners yet?

[pulsar cypress]

°-°)/*pats..
Just make the new mining rig first so it auto transfer to the depot..

[peak anvil]

Yea I've unlocked tier 3 mining

[somber snow]

i think he meant this thing

[peak anvil]

Yup

[unreal laurel]

i didnt even know this was possible

68 items is 34secpnds right?

[peak anvil]

Thanks a lot, the issues has been fixed. It just I used portable mining rig instead of electric

[vestal tiger]

?

What is

[unreal laurel]

output out of the corner piece

i didnt even know it could do that

[vestal tiger]

Oh

[unreal laurel]

i need to do some math

....

brain not braining

[uneven grove]

anyone know why it's stuck at 350?

[atomic fiber]

depot storage full maybe?

[uneven grove]

oh

yeah

[unreal laurel]

146.....

[uneven grove]

probably

[unreal laurel]

145

hmmmm

144 is 2,2,2,2,3,3

i think 1/144 is quite close to 1/145.67

gives me leeway to mess with ziplines and turrets

hmmm,i think the splitter low priority breaks it

does this work?

dang,channel is dead

[twin hamlet]

i cant place my blueprint, pls help

[unreal laurel]

wtf were u doing oguri

[twin hamlet]

im remaking my factory

i clear all my outpost on valley 4 and this happens

[unreal laurel]

why.....

just distribute

its not worth killing your frames everytime u teleport to the main aic

[twin hamlet]

does placing the power lines add as count on facility limit?

[unreal laurel]

maybe?

[peak anvil]

Is this good blueprint?

The "Everything but V2" I'm at lvl 31.

[boreal snow]

Just play the game normally until you get a sizeable amount of ferrium yield

Nothings really that complicated and it ruins game enjoyability if you try to min max at such a low level

[somber snow]

u need to check the requirements

[unreal laurel]

help

[somber snow]

i will note stuff
req: base expand 1 time
depost lv2
basic AIC lv3
work from lv20 best in lv25

[somber snow]

what

[peak anvil]

Yeah just realised I'm at lvl 32. It need lvl 34

[unreal laurel]

im fairly certain that at a surplus of 800watts/s and deficit of 300watts/s i can run a 1/144 with some leeway

[peak anvil]

Oh ya I'm confused about this one, how do I do it

[unreal laurel]

but my power looks funky

[peak anvil]

Ngl it feels fun, but u kept feeling bad for not reaching full efficiency. The factory is killing my brain fr

[unreal laurel]

it sometimes gets the next battery on time and other times it stays under

[somber snow]

not my expertise,
uve gotta ask bronya, zroku or mon about this

[unreal laurel]

all asleep i think

[severe nexus]

Are you using 1 or 2 diges

[somber snow]

or phantom, u cud ask him

[severe nexus]

Roku should be awake still

[unreal laurel]

idk

(40surplus/deficit)+40=x
i used this to get like 145.67

so i went to 144

which is 222233

i setup it up but the numbers dont look stable

@craggy whale

[severe nexus]

One sec

[unreal laurel]

mind helping me diagnose the issue before the power inevitable crashes?

[lusty violet]

wouldn't 1/144 only give 305W on average? (i also dunno about this stuff much)

so ur a deficit since 1100+305 = 1405 total

[severe nexus]

200 innate

[lusty violet]

oh right

[severe nexus]

Wdym by stay under

Battery runs out before power reserves reach 100%?

[unreal laurel]

since its running on leeway,shouldnt it stay at 100 for a sec seconds

mines not

sometimes

[severe nexus]

How high are you reaching then

[unreal laurel]

like 99,86 and something

i wasnt keeping track of each peak

i think it fixed itself....

idk what happened

looks fine now

[severe nexus]

Can you go to the protocol management screen and see the exact amount of power you are consuming?

[craggy whale]

why me

[severe nexus]

Ur the power min max guy

[unreal laurel]

looks like this

doesnt look stable to me imo

[craggy whale]

do u recognize what makes it unstable?

[unreal laurel]

i gave my belts some breathing room and its definitely 144 so idk why

[craggy whale]

try the converger just go down

not connect to other converger

like the right side one

[unreal laurel]

doesnt a converger clog give more power and not less?

[severe nexus]

It should give more yeah

[craggy whale]

oh wait so u planning to give more

kek

[unreal laurel]

mines more of a unstable thing,not a high thing

idk why the lines are wonky

it worries me tho

[hidden mural]

Can we only have 2 xiranite forge max? Or is it 2 per AIC/region?

[lone pebble]

max

[craggy whale]

hmmm

[hidden mural]

Oh

[severe nexus]

The lines are always like that

But 5.5 power margin is not a lot

[unreal laurel]

y

[unreal laurel]

5.5?

[hidden mural]

Can we place xiranite related things in valley 4?

[unreal laurel]

did u run the numbers or smth?

[craggy whale]

wat lemme confirm what was the unstable one? is that you cannot reach 100%?

[severe nexus]

1.1k*40/144 is 305.5

[craggy whale]

btw this was the thing u talked bout unstable right. but if u look at atleast 2 rotations will it go to 100% ? or stay under

[unreal laurel]

its going to 100 now

[craggy whale]

every rotation?

[unreal laurel]

most rotations atleast,im doing deliveries rn so wasnt looking

[craggy whale]

then i think it just either server side stuff

[severe nexus]

It's a bit screwy

[craggy whale]

i mean my setup uses all oscillate

[severe nexus]

A single dige setup theoretically should be consistent though

[craggy whale]

i just want to see im alwayas at 5%

[severe nexus]

I'm worried there will be power reserve loss when offline with this little margin

[craggy whale]

if there is just make backupgen

[severe nexus]

Yeah that should take care of things nicely

[frail trail]

is there a base planner website for mobile?

[craggy whale]

i hope i can make automatic shit

but my brain jsut doesnt work since i begun with my diet

[frail trail]

enka doesn't work for mobile, and endfieldtools is pretty bad to control

[magic falcon]

are there any designs that use control ports to cap the production of less valuable items?

[unreal laurel]

i bricked the last 2 i touched

[craggy whale]

💀

[unreal laurel]

the first one activated but i mixed up the converger and splitter so my output was pointing nowhere

[severe nexus]

I thought you mokel every day

[craggy whale]

i did

but i literally eat bland food now

since im begun with diet >:(

[unreal laurel]

the second time was after swapping out a component setup to go full battery,power gen activated but didnt produce enough power cause it was connected to an outdated dige

[cunning obsidian]

item gates can be set to allow only a specfic quanity of items through and then stop

[craggy whale]

but it requires alot space

oh wait

item port

[severe nexus]

@craggy whale you should try to make automatic power setup

[cunning obsidian]

but we don't have a specific gate for maintaining a target

[magic falcon]

I had my factory bricked for about 40 minutes 2 days ago, I reworked the belts and had poisoned items hiding in the the logistic bridges that kept biting me in the rear, had to run to Wuling and bring some Xirite batteries over from there to prop it up while I debugged it.

[craggy whale]

@severe nexus i think the gate system can make it no

what do u think

[severe nexus]

So it increases power when crash, and maybe periodically decrease power to try to min max

The idea is you place the bp and it will work regardless of what changes you make to the factory

[craggy whale]

yeah actually might works but just how

XD

[cunning obsidian]

unless i've seriously missed something, no

[severe nexus]

Like we literally already have setup that automatically increases power

We just need something that periodically decrease power to min max over time

[craggy whale]

i mean item port can control how many items can going through but it will turn off immediately so u cannot automatically turn it on. right

[cunning obsidian]

to maintain a target level we'd need a gate that can see whats in depot

[cunning obsidian]

yes

[craggy whale]

yeah but this trigger only from outage

[severe nexus]

It still works

[magic falcon]

is an item gate different then a control port? isn't that what it does?

[craggy whale]

theres no way to calculate how much recharging u need when outage until it stops

and to redo it

[severe nexus]

Over time the system learns what power level to maintain though

[craggy whale]

it might work if u use the aic or loader depot i think

with the gate system that built in with splitter converge flow

[magic falcon]

I think there was someone who actually did that.

[severe nexus]

It crashes frequently only at the very beginning

[craggy whale]

i just know theres somebody who uses a "record" thing to record how fast r u dying without ur gen*

and then try to make something out of it that produce every 2s and use em as "record"

[severe nexus]

I'll think about it more tmr it is 6am rn

[cunning obsidian]

no i'm just using a generic term instead of game's specfic term cause i can't remember what they named everything

[craggy whale]

i probably will think it on sunday

since i have work in 1 hrs >:(

until 12am

a college programmer student man

need to make moni

[unreal laurel]

my power was out for hrs

because a bricked emergency gen is literally life or death

[craggy whale]

dw i had my powers out for 16 hrs after yvonne patch

smh they recalibrate smthng

and i think what we found here for the stash things

or the splitter things

[cunning obsidian]

12 hours hours randomly cause i was at 5.55k of 5.55k

[craggy whale]

i was at 1k

and to 0

so i had no battery

[unreal laurel]

maybe its because ive bricked my power but i feel like wuling doesnt produce enough to sell

[craggy whale]

i mean my wuling doesnt produce 5.75 syringe but i still have 40k battery leftover

and wuling village still always be poor

[unreal laurel]

im bored,wanna talk about cryptic event thingy

i got bored and speedran both the time trials

[frail trail]

i might need to change my base to min battery production because my about to hit 40k

[craggy whale]

"Like we literally already have setup that automatically increases power
We just need something that periodically decrease power to min max over time" ~noted

ill thinking smthng

[unreal laurel]

have i showed u my speedrun yet?

[craggy whale]

speed run of what