valley IV depot -> your backpack -> wuling depot
#aic-factory
steel shell
repeat
then u can use the HC battery to start things up, power everything you need
steel shell
valley IV depot -> your backpack -> wuling depot
Sending it in case you're not using this feature to transfer items
I don't wanna hear you teleporting valley IV to wuling
near flower
I don't wanna hear you teleporting valley IV to wuling
Doing allat for gold gear
I hate this
analog elbow
Uhhh 1 Wuling Battery should be enough power for your entire factory
steel shell
Doing allat for gold gear
it'
It's just not for gold gear, but for your wuling foundation
analog elbow
Unless you add Eco Farm & ziplines
steel shell
you're bound to do this regardless
analog elbow
Well 1 without Any Ziplines / Eco farm
craggy whale
Well 1 without Any Ziplines / Eco farm
analog elbow
Unless you build a chunky boi that requires 2 power sources
steel shell
I mean let's be real chat
analog elbow
Which i don't think so. Zipines and Eco farm is the main culprit to go beyond 1.8K power usage
analog elbow
near flower
Well I’m sorry
near flower
Tang tang needs her batteries
craggy whale
y'all not using LC wuling battery to power up your wuling
I do like 2 per 3 minuutes
steel shell
I do like 2 per 3 minuutes
analog elbow
Tang tang needs her batteries
Just use HC
I mean most people who want to max out batteries for later purpose just use 2 HC Thermals
near flower
Just use HC
I don’t remember if that outpost takes it at prosperity 1 but ok
analog elbow
I even had to store my excess Wuling Batteries at Protocol Stashes (turned off/storage mode)
steel shell
I mean most people who want to max out batteries for later purpose just use 2 HC...
Why's your twin using lc wuling then
analog elbow
Why's your twin using lc wuling then
Who
analog elbow
I don’t remember if that outpost takes it at prosperity 1 but ok
Uhhh
steel shell
analog elbow
I mean as your power source in Wuling
steel shell
near flower
What?
analog elbow
Not selling them...
near flower
Uh ok
analog elbow
Yeah look
near flower
Sure
analog elbow
You do have to manually transfer it tho
near flower
We use HC battery to power up wuling
Ok then, hope they got some early game hc wuling bps in here then
steel shell
Ok then, hope they got some early game hc wuling bps in here then
huh
paper magnet
Unless you add Eco Farm & ziplines
You can do 1 batt for 38 ziplines in city and 16 or so in jingyu
analog elbow
Cause you can’t do auto transfer depots
Depends on your usage ofc
You can use 1 Wuling & 1 HC
analog elbow
You need to transfer once every few weeks
steel shell
or just use lc wuling all the way
analog elbow
No other option either way
near flower
I think at that point since I’m super lazy I’m going to make some power in the sub aic
analog elbow
What do you mean some power
paper magnet
Idgi why are you so against just making wuling batteries
near flower
I don’t know to be honest
paper magnet
You know you're capped by wuling creds and not xiranite components for gear right
analog elbow
steel shell
You know you're capped by wuling creds and not xiranite components for gear righ...
for future content
near flower
I guess it’s cause it feels like an annoying detour
steel shell
easy to max out next outpost
i think?
is my reasoning correct? I'm just copying others
analog elbow
You can have all the Components you want but you will never reach Maximum Artificing that fast unless you play and carefully manage your Stock Bills
Even then still not enough
This point of Wuling is Faster Start Faster Artificing
steel shell
anyway, it's not really that much of an extra work anyway
analog elbow
^
steel shell
I go to dijang to give gifts everyday
analog elbow
True
analog elbow
Gotta hit 200% on my Lava
steel shell
bruh?
analog elbow
Well guess not enough usage
steel shell
no way you capped at ferrium on wuling
paper magnet
I have the weird limiter so it's used at 115/min
steel shell
there's little amount to the demand
steel shell
I have the weird limiter so it's used at 115/min
even if there's a limiter, you can only yield 90/min
115 is still higher than what u can mine
paper magnet
even if there's a limiter, you can only yield 90/min
Metatransfer is another 25
analog elbow
Even with 115 it shouldn't be capping unless your graphs are weird
paper magnet
It's capped cos at the start I had meta transfer on permanently and I didn't turn it off so over time it just capped
analog elbow
Makes sense
paper magnet
But this was before I set up my drugs line
Cos I built my drugs in Jing yu so for the longest time I had no ferrium use
dapper surge
i guess sometime your setup clogged
paper magnet
Today I'm gonna go back and either find my factory barely alive or dead
Managed to cut power down to 1800 exactly to use 1 batt per min
paper magnet
I guess it’s cause it feels like an annoying detour
Wdym by this
You need to be selling the batteries as well
To make wulingbucks
near flower
I’m impatient as hell
paper magnet
You can't even whale for wuling creds
So like
You just gotta engage with the game
steel shell
managed to cut down the power to exact 1800... are you even using ziplines
paper magnet
I have 38 ziplines in city and 16 or so in jingyu valley
paper magnet
can't argue with that ig
I figured I didn't need that much ginseng anymore
steel shell
I have 38 ziplines in city and 16 or so in jingyu valley
bruh i only have 31
i mean ig if i turn off the eco farm
steel shell
ill go lower than 1800 too
paper magnet
Added 1 or 2 auxiliary ones for my own use
steel shell
wut circle
paper magnet
Like the ziplines form a full circle around wuling city
steel shell
tepid wind
viscid plover
i also have zipline on every material on wuling city, except this
you need this
steel shell
what sorcery is that
tepid wind
until some cn drop dis banger
hidden temple
i also have zipline on every material on wuling city, except this
yeah that part's an awkward branchoff with short zips
hidden temple
xiranite zips 
dawn flax
i think there's a unit-cap on how many structures count in a map, zipline and pole included
viscid plover
damn where is bro going with this
fathom shadow
it'll get me somewhere ahh zip
tepid wind
wintry stump
is there such thing as a priority input splitter design?
hidden temple
is there such thing as a priority input splitter design?
outside of item control ports, off the top of my head you could use the converger's quirk when next to facility output* ports
a facility will prioritize spitting output on naked belts over belts with a converger
wintry stump
what about with item control ports? i'm just trying to keep a protocol stash from overflowing with say, sandleaf if i produce too much
hidden temple
until those belts clog, then it'd use the converger belt
chrome cloud
Hi guys, just wonder why can’t I receive my friend zip line, it just said this and I don’t know how
Try unlock the zipline tower in AIC but still no use
hidden temple
buckflower is 1:2 sandleaf is 1:3
for shredder, all ore is 1:1, all plants are 1:2, except sandleaf alone at 1:3
fathom shadow
Hi guys, just wonder why can’t I receive my friend zip line, it just said this a...
your position?
i never received any zipline, i guess you are too close
hidden temple
what about with item control ports? i'm just trying to keep a protocol stash fro...
item control ports would be for filtering different items
if your protostash(depot) is full, what do you intend to do with the sandleaf that otherwise would've stayed clogged?
if you're shredding sandleaf, the output belt that goes intro production will still be moving, it's fine for the excess to stash/clog
meager panther
Just learned I can't craft 25.6k portable originium rigs at once
analog elbow
yeah that part's an awkward branchoff with short zips <:PerliDerp:11463421578258...
You have. A lot of short zip
unreal laurel
analog elbow
Come back when that's Wuling Price
real crescent
Hi guys, just wonder why can’t I receive my friend zip line, it just said this a...
Cos that zipline is in a position that the game doesnt allow to share. Ask them if it has likes. If a zip doesnr have any likes, its not gonna be shareable
analog elbow
hidden temple
@analog elbow whoops the reply didn't reg
yeah, I recently redid my wuling zips. prioritizing delivery speed instead of interconnection or loops. saves so much time compared to my 110m zips before for "area coverage"
there're no pauses between express nodes anyway
3 paths as straight as I could get em to each delivery point
as much as I enjoyed the scenic routes, the daily wuling deliveries were getting to me
shrewd knoll
its such a insignificant amount of money though compared to the things you can buy with it. I just stop doing deliveries even with a good zipline
hidden temple
I mean it's still 300k bucks a day for wuling
hidden temple
depleting the catalysts is a given but stockpiling more engrave tix is nice, too
shrewd knoll
you can buy all the highest discount engraving tix and stuff, it's going towards the more expensive ones
hidden temple
well yeah, that's the point of it
you get to deplete all 60ks and 120ks weekly
and 120k engraves
viscid plover
bruh
marsh comet
hidden temple
and then you quickstash all facilities with full HC in depot
merry wagon
that's gonna be an issue
but I probably won't change my valley base any further so
shrewd knoll
at least power them so you can actually store it when you turn it on
viscid plover
do people actually reach the point of having so much HCV battery that they need to do this?
hidden temple
I've only recently hit 80k HC with the outposts bankrupt
merry wagon
at least power them so you can actually store it when you turn it on
only the last 2 are powered, therefore the stashes only start accumulating if the depot is full
and if the depot starts dipping below max (for example if I transfer some batts out for wuling), the depot refills from the stash
viscid plover
between selling and sharing HCV in both area i've not yet reach the point
merry wagon
well yea this is basically useless 99% of the time
analog elbow
<@333448635234779138> whoops the reply didn't reg
yeah, I recently redid my wuli...
I see
prisma surge
Anyone have wuling aic factory min max bp?
analog elbow
Anyone have wuling aic factory min max bp?
I'm happy to share mine if you're at under 2K usage
prisma surge
Yeah sure thanks
vestal tiger
Anyone have wuling aic factory min max bp?
Define min max
analog elbow
well that's how it is
prisma surge
like to max out stock bills and materials for gear etc
analog elbow
Turrets or boring
hollow drum
i sit there and use Gil BS every 20 seconds
shut rover
Truly is 100% efficiency
analog elbow
like to max out stock bills and materials for gear etc
That's the entire Factory
hollow drum
bc the turrets are killing everything
prisma surge
But for me the important one is gear I guess
analog elbow
You can watch a movie while Letting the turret kill them monsters i guess
hollow drum
like to max out stock bills and materials for gear etc
unfortunately due to xiranite limit you probably cant hyper generate stockbills AND components at the same time
the minmaxing has to be done elsewhere
like i only gen 6/min batteries and 3/min component
thats like the limit
hollow drum
You can watch a movie while Letting the turret kill them monsters i guess
true i should have been watching aot
prisma surge
I see alright thanks
hollow drum
also no i cant give you a bp bc i never share bps
I make my own too
but its 1.57k power usage i guess
prisma surge
I assume when wuling fully release we can have better crafting amount?
leaden drift
I saw @vast iron thread https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1476003772890218638 and this has been working for me even tho i think its supposed to be the opposite?
prisma surge
I see thanks
hollow drum
I assume when wuling fully release we can have better crafting amount?
pretty much yeah
leaden drift
its over flow protection of the 1/3 of xirnate leaving my battery line
hollow drum
i dont think Wuling AIC is at 25% of what it could do btw
leaden drift
if i overflow it goes back to 6
hollow drum
(not leaking or anything I just think its so capped rn)
analog elbow
(not leaking or anything I just think its so capped rn)
Ofc they are going to rage bait people
I can't believe the mineral beds are 1 tiles apart from clumping together for a single Pylon
This is not a coincidence
leaden drift
its not as bad as some aurelines
leaden drift
or making it dodge last second
paper magnet
I can't believe the mineral beds are 1 tiles apart from clumping together for a ...
Real
Don't forget mix of even and odd spaced facilities
And making us place pylons next to ziplines
crimson inlet
they better be givin us burdenbeast farms in #announcement
analog elbow
shrewd knoll
they dont want people to make the most unhinged poop factory
leaden drift
they arent real
analog elbow
They should be dropping 2x the meat!
paper magnet
But not in Wuling
Because wuling is basically not-china and we can't have undesirable behavior in not-china
crimson inlet
I wanna be *insert any chemical manufacturing company for plants* 😭
paper magnet
It's a whole psyop
analog elbow
Cool drawing by TangTang
Minus she can't write tho
shrewd knoll
theres only one guy who can survive on bamboo in wuling, they gotta get their meat from somewhere
frail trail
Brother's social credits skyrocketed
crimson inlet
Wuling doesn't let you industrialize livestock 
craggy whale
im fked up
frail trail
eat those sanity
craggy whale
crimson inlet
pay Wuling Minister to add agriculture reforms
analog elbow
im fked up
Thanks for the reminder
viscid plover
what expires today?
craggy whale
if just theres a wa y to eat sanity automatic like factory
crimson inlet
give him share of products I sell, win win 
shrewd knoll
they splurged all their xiranite on underground labyrinths doing livestock stuff that are not meant for the public to see
crimson inlet
they splurged all their xiranite on underground labyrinths doing livestock stuff...
gimme some 
dawn flax
wish can dump Xiranite/Yazhen/Jincao fluids on City's pools
shrewd knoll
there a few pools at the outpost u can fill up
viscid plover
you can in some pool
frail trail
massive pool of tea
paper magnet
Brother's social credits skyrocketed
I wouldn't say that
But it is awfully suspicious that the region that is far more technologically advanced is not-china
craggy whale
oh no
shrewd knoll
but you are the china, you are the one building towers everywhere
frail trail
But it is awfully suspicious that the region that is far more technologically ad...
Because china #1
crimson inlet
China makes all food just like Wuling make all food
viscid plover
But it is awfully suspicious that the region that is far more technologically ad...
they literally have a big brother surveillance center in zuangfangyi office
crimson inlet
imagine, we can deliver food
analog elbow
Why can't we eat everything in Wuling while Not-China eats everything
shrewd knoll
they even pay you to take photos of "environmental" stuff, yea sure right....
analog elbow
Not fair tbh it needs to be-
dapper surge
there is slug meat, you can eat that
viscid plover
very sus
analog elbow
vestal tiger
Imagine this region we add agriculture and live stock raising to our aic
dapper surge
slug meat can craft food
analog elbow
I'm allergic to Slug meat
crimson inlet
Imagine this region we add agriculture and live stock raising to our aic
this is what I'm spewing before
analog elbow
I want local livestock meat
shrewd knoll
slug meat is local livestock meat
crimson inlet
MAKE BURDENBEAST AND CHICKENS LIVESTOCK FOR US TO FARM
vestal tiger
this is what I'm spewing before
You spew peak
dawn flax
i imagine the desert map, will has Mobile-AIC-on-tracks like AK's Rhode Island MCV
crimson inlet
I want them to produce manure and become meat products
analog elbow
craggy whale
MAKE BURDENBEAST AND CHICKENS LIVESTOCK FOR US TO FARM
i wonder if this game become azure familia lol
crimson inlet
it will FLOURISH agriculture and raise demand for more meats
I also need a Ice manufacturing to make my own ice for food to not spoil
analog elbow
dawn flax
an ice-cream factory that Laevatain is eager to station
hollow drum
an ice-cream factory that Laevatain is eager to station
assuming she just doesnt burn it down within the first 2 hours
crimson inlet
They should make this game more Industry-centered, imagine the Heavy industries sponsor money 
dawn flax
assuming she just doesnt burn it down within the first 2 hours
that's the challenge, we must outproduce Laevatain's gluttony
fluid igloo
That could be a gamemode lol
hollow drum
like literally burning it down
dawn flax
why would she burn it down?
crimson inlet
they should also add a new System that supplements trading on outposts, like a constant demand of stuff being shipped from the factory to them with physical deliveries
analog elbow
She will never do that if it's an ice cream
fluid igloo
Well not actual factory AIC stuff
But like a simulation challenge like tutorial but bigger scale and u have a timer to get the factory running to make ice cream
dawn flax
it'll be her flame power by accident, at worst
fluid igloo
If can't hit the quota of ice cream produced in that time, Surtr will burn out asses
dawn flax
ye that's the challenge
hollow drum
why would she burn it down?
bc memes
fluid igloo
Being a sim challenge also means no blueprint cheating
Real factory making challenge
hollow drum
tbf Laevatain is a lot less angrier than Surtr
dawn flax
won't stop her form sabotage existing lines either
hollow drum
Being a sim challenge also means no blueprint cheating
already doesnt work
excludes 80% of the playerbase
fluid igloo
excludes 80% of the playerbase
hollow drum
real
paper magnet
Have you seen how many people couldn't dodge umbral 2 stage 2
fluid igloo
Just skip the event
crimson inlet
Imagine:
- Having a dedicated Ranch for livestock to feed a demand for outposts and city centers.
- Excess livestock for luxury foods.
- Products such as skin and fur for clothing setups.
- Byproducts such as manure for processing low to mid grade fertilizers in a set-up.
paper magnet
dawn flax
only machinery i use public blueprints are the planters
hollow drum
if you dont spend a total of 8 hours optimizing your factory on your own, you haven't really played Endfield
fluid igloo
It's just mere 200 Orebyl anyways
analog elbow
I even put Ice cream on my dihh and she still eats it (real it happened)
hollow drum
<:bronyaKnowledge:1049433930346020974> only machinery i use public blueprints ar...
same, and thats because i cant find a better way to do it
fluid igloo
if you dont spend a total of 8 hours optimizing your factory on your own, you ha...
That's a rookie number...
hollow drum
literally tried to improve it and ended up making it worse
hollow drum
That's a rookie number...
8 hours isn't in total
i probably spent close to 50+ only on the factory
dawn flax
same, and thats because i cant find a better way to do it <:ChiakiXD:14254038746...
it's usually a 3-longitudinal-unit, i tried an L-shape, it wasted more space for detoured conveyers
fluid igloo
8 hours isn't in total
I mean it's doable, on weekends
That's 48 hrs
crimson inlet
if you dont spend a total of 8 hours optimizing your factory on your own, you ha...
*Me, spending days to improve my PAC, just to make it smaller by 4 grid squares*
hollow drum
it's usually a 3-longitudinal-unit, i tried an L-shape, it wasted more space f...
a corner shape works
dawn flax
paper magnet
moves a pylon
Sci park-lodespring-plateau loses power
fluid igloo
I like perpendicular the most, literally no belts visible at all
crimson inlet
I need a ginseng farm
dawn flax
hmm i ain't ig atm, then i might try other planting layout
hollow drum
I mean it's doable, on weekends
That's 48 hrs
yeah but the entire point of what i said was that most people have decided to just not do that with the factory
or at least leave it late
analog elbow
I need a ginseng farm
Yes
crimson inlet
I need talong farm
analog elbow
Join The Ginseng
hollow drum
im not saying you HAVE to optimize the factory
im saying i dont think you really get the Endfield Experience™ if you just use bps
analog elbow
im not saying you HAVE to optimize the factory
Yeah. MUST
hollow drum
or ignore the factory
its not moral supremacy or whatever i just think its a part of the game people really need to play
shut rover
Yeah. **MUST**
Have laziness at its best
dawn flax
my Valley-AIC reached its capped unit-placement at 768 , can't place anymore thing even if there's space
analog elbow
Have laziness at its best
crimson inlet
Have laziness at its best
that's some dumb laziness
analog elbow
Have laziness at its best
Daym 2 Wuling Batteries
craggy whale
my Valley-AIC reached its capped unit-placement at 768 <:PerliDerp:1146342157825...
remove all those bridges
hollow drum
Yeah. **MUST**
go back to farming ginseng or smth
viscid plover
my Valley-AIC reached its capped unit-placement at 768 <:PerliDerp:1146342157825...
how much energy you burning there
craggy whale
find a way for your belt to not using bridges
shut rover
I could make 1 more wuling bats but im too busy capping out xiranite component
craggy whale
it will helping u
fluid igloo
im saying i dont think you really get the Endfield Experience™ if you just use b...
That's why I always tell my newbie friends who wanna dip into the factory part
- Don use blueprints right away
- Don skip the sim tutorial, go through it all
- Start with ur own makeshift unoptimized factory that is at least functioning and not run out of power to produce every parts u need
- Once they can do all that, then use blueprint, cuz u have all the basic down and know how to hotfix own their own without bothering me every time
hollow drum
yeah lol
analog elbow
I could make 1 more wuling bats but im too busy capping out xiranite component
Tf you mean make more
hollow drum
learn it first so you can make alterations later
dawn flax
how much energy you burning there
6.41k/6.8k
shut rover
Daym 2 Wuling Batteries
1 packaging unit can theoretically powerr up 4 banks
viscid plover
6.41k/6.8k
we got another dijang builder right here
analog elbow
1 packaging unit can theoretically powerr up 4 banks
I'm talking about you wasting power
crimson inlet
6.41k/6.8k
you using ziplines?
analog elbow
Idk
dawn flax
you using ziplines?
about 10 total in the main map
fluid igloo
you using ziplines?
Nah zip only cost 5
analog elbow
Building Dijang .2 in his backyard
viscid plover
he building dijang 2 in backyard
shut rover
I'm talking about you wasting power <:pain:783533767452393523>
Turrets alone already max out 1.4k powers
hollow drum
you can battery ziplines tho right
crimson inlet
Nah zip only cost 5
theres a 10 per zip version
analog elbow
Especially in Wuling
shut rover
Who uses Power Grid for turrets
Me
crimson inlet
theres a 10 per zip version
longer range and can auto zip to a added line
shut rover
analog elbow
50 Wuling Batteries can last you for months
That's if you grind daily
Which isn't
shut rover
I guess it could work but im not gonna be doing that
hollow drum
ok
fluid igloo
longer range and can auto zip to a added line
Still wouldn't amount to more than 2k power yeah?
hollow drum
50 Wuling Batteries can last you for months
i think i made a mistake vro
i used hc on the scipark alluvium
analog elbow
i think i made a mistake vro
What did you do
crimson inlet
I'm under 2k in wuling for energy consumption
hollow drum
im gonna be stuck on that one for 50 years
crimson inlet
Still wouldn't amount to more than 2k power yeah?
more than 2k
hollow drum
cuz its essence for Wulf/Gil/Endmin
somber snow
how much money do u save,
if u farm alluvioum for xp
hollow drum
for op xp you mean right
craggy whale
50 Wuling Batteries can last you for months
wdym for a month
somber snow
for op xp you mean right
yeah, what else
analog elbow
wdym for a month
For Turrets
craggy whale
oh
crimson inlet
I'm under 2k in wuling for energy consumption
this is max production in Wuling
hollow drum
not auth xp?
dawn flax
i made the trench stay at central, so can utilize both side of it (Wuling's)
hollow drum
yeah, what else
im not sure but i gotta tbh with you i dont think it goes up that fast
💀
somber snow
not auth xp?
becuz when i mentioned using batteries for turrets,
someone complained that theyll run out of batteries,
becuz they farm alluvium
hollow drum
ill let you know, the team i use for alluvium is all at 80/90
crimson inlet
2 thermal banks using LC wuling can generate full battery reserve for you in less than a minute
fluid igloo
how much money do u save,
if u farm alluvioum for xp
I mean it saves yeah but erm...
It's gonna take 3 years
By that time new operators will powercrept the one u just maxed level...
shut rover
My zipline is also costly
hollow drum
becuz when i mentioned using batteries for turrets,
someone complained that they...
i dont think the problem here is running out of batteries bc they used them on turrets
i think the problem here is them running out of batteries in general
crimson inlet
Since it produces 64k energy for every 40s
analog elbow
becuz when i mentioned using batteries for turrets,
someone complained that they...
Yes they will run out maybe weeks if they grind daily. But still 100% more efficient than connecting it to Power Grid (Unless it's V4, it's not that significant anyway)
Honestly don't sweat it on V4
hollow drum
theres still a lot of overhead unless your factory is just cooked
viscid plover
to clear shop
hollow drum
like producing 9 batts and using 6
somber snow
i use turrets to farm for fillet anyway,
they're spread out, so batteries are more convenient,
anyone that uses aluvium for op xp,
may god have mercy on your soul
shut rover
like producing 9 batts and using 6
But why most v4 produce 12 and only used 4
analog elbow
For science
analog elbow
But why most v4 produce 12 and only used 4
Because they're not building Dijang V2
dawn flax
my way of having Wuling battery continously field the reactor is double-down on blackpowder feeds on the grinder process
analog elbow
Your power usage is tho
viscid plover
hollow drum
well yea your factory is cooked
analog elbow
shut rover
Maybe someday ill do it
hollow drum
6 /min is crazy
shut rover
well yea your factory is cooked
Im already hooking up 4 banks to one packaging and it still run
analog elbow
Someday when the Game released it's 4th region yes
hollow drum
all turrets connected to grid + probably zipped everything
dawn flax
6/min for which battery?
shut rover
On the edge
dawn flax
damn
shut rover
Granted that i dont log for a long time
analog elbow
We're getting Dijang V2 soon
hollow drum
i dont use zips (i dont do v4 depot anymore) and i use batteries for turrets
4.67k I think
viscid plover
real soon
dawn flax
my Wuling AIC is 2.81k/5k
shut rover
Producing 6 a min for 4 banks only to have another 6 a min for trades
hollow drum
Im already hooking up 4 banks to one packaging and it still run
not in that regard, you're not producing max batteries and using more than you probably should
fluid igloo
We're getting Dijang V2 soon
Yea those parts rotting
hollow drum
but its whatever
analog elbow
i dont use zips (i dont do v4 depot anymore) and i use batteries for turrets
I told the turrets to power themselves or Chen will do it for them. Works like a charm
hollow drum
its optional optimization, at the end of the day its your account
somber snow
oh yeah, what happened to the guy that manually fed his forge of the sky to make xiranites
hollow drum
there was a guy like that?
analog elbow
Still doing it
hollow drum
💀
fluid igloo
oh yeah, what happened to the guy that manually fed his forge of the sky to make...
Wtf....
viscid plover
i dont use zips (i dont do v4 depot anymore) and i use batteries for turrets
does your daily depot win V4 get done by other player consistantly?
hollow drum
does your daily depot win V4 get done by other player consistantly?
i dont even do that
shut rover
but its whatever
It is a 12 a min but i did 6 because the other one is not connected to a bank
somber snow
the guy's name was benson, or something
analog elbow
oh yeah, what happened to the guy that manually fed his forge of the sky to make...
I'm sure he's still doing it til now
hollow drum
i rob everyone using my v4 output and i dont have anything to buy anymore
other than engraving permits
analog elbow
Meds alone can bankrupt the outposts i think
shut rover
6 med buck a min
analog elbow
fluid igloo
Yesh
hollow drum
dawn flax
my Forge got triple-fed the hexagon charcoals
analog elbow
viscid plover
where's the bait lol
dawn flax
and i feel like it produce maximum xiranite capacity, the tick continously
somber snow
my Forge got triple-fed the hexagon charcoals <:PerliStareYou:117127070431079233...
why do u have 3 belts of dense carbon
hollow drum
my Forge got triple-fed the hexagon charcoals <:PerliStareYou:117127070431079233...
bro I did this and got pissed at the forge instead
viscid plover
im making 6 meds too, rage on me
dawn flax
why do u have 3 belts of dense carbon
to produce Xiranite at maximum capacity
shut rover
for some reason
Even when you only need two grinders?
analog elbow
why do u have 3 belts of dense carbon
Bro is pushing the Forge to work at 500% efficiency but it was infact cannot
Let my bro chill. There's only 2 Forges
fluid igloo
Fair
shut rover
Bro is pushing the Forge to work at 500% efficiency but it was infact cannot
I wish for overclock for this moment
analog elbow
Those 2 are singlehandedly supporting our Stock Bills
viscid plover
Bro is pushing the Forge to work at 500% efficiency but it was infact cannot
maybe if you use more power in wuling the forge will work faster
hollow drum
Even when you only need two grinders?
i was testing things
dawn flax
it can
small creek
Those 2 are singlehandedly supporting our Stock Bills
the humble yazhen syringe doing its part 
dawn flax
i've tried
dawn flax
both 2 forges
hollow drum
~~maybe if you use more power in wuling the forge will work faster~~
dude
dawn flax
but more than 3 fed is a waste
hollow drum
this would be a freakin insane thing
like add extra power cables for extra efficiency
boom
iykyk
analog elbow
the humble yazhen syringe doing its part <:ChenCry:1319511237561684079>
Of course I remember. it's my goat
I still remember the guy who says he's not producing enough batteries
So he added more Thermal Banks
small creek
what 😭
somber snow
epic
small creek
get this man an EE degree
dawn flax
sudden night
Any zipline guide for the entire Valley 4?
analog elbow
Big Brain
hollow drum
I still remember the guy who says he's not producing enough batteries
AHAHAHAHAHA
dawn flax
more of empty banks
hollow drum
wait is it a diff guy
dawn flax
hollow drum
i remember smth like this
viscid plover
So he added more Thermal Banks
oh i rmb that too i watch the whole interaction it was quite entertaining
hollow drum
but he added extra packing units instead
when he had 5 packing units operating at 40%
sudden night
So he added more Thermal Banks
analog elbow
I don't remember clearly. I only remember when he showed a screenshot of adding more thermal
somber snow
some ppl just rnt meant for engineering
analog elbow
He kept complaining why his factory kept dying every few minutes
Bro has double the usage than yield
hollow drum
LMFAO
hollow drum
bro that isnt even engineering thats just no common sense
somber snow
dumb question: does thorny yazhen powder heal 300hp once, or every second
frail trail
Last time, some guy said that he will draw out his planned base and then decided to type it in plain text like it was a cỉrcuit drawing
analog elbow
dumb question: does thorny yazhen powder heal 300hp once, or every second
Good question actually. Never tried that
hollow drum
thats somehow more insane than the Excel designers
somber snow
Good question actually. Never tried that
becuz when i saw someones sheets, it says thorny powder heals 1920, higher than fluffed jincao
small creek
Any zipline guide for the entire Valley 4?
i use this v4 ziplines with some modification
frail trail
Also half of the text explain stuff was in a foreign language
dawn flax
nicee
viscid plover
he also had sandleaf going in and out 1 sandpowder
small creek
wuling ziplines if u also like
sudden night
i use this v4 ziplines with some modification
I can't read Japanese
somber snow
why r there blue and red circles for the zips
sudden night
Red = Tower
Blue = Pylon
Pink square = target location
Yellow line = zipline link
I think
small creek
yeah
i just use tower almost everywhere tho, my setup are low cortisol
i mean low power
small creek
somber snow
i love chen
small creek
i also love chen
analog elbow
becuz when i saw someones sheets, it says thorny powder heals 1920, higher than ...
it is higher
dawn flax
somber snow
it is higher
oh my god, ive been shitting on thorny yazhen this whole time
analog elbow
I mean Thorny heals 10% more than Fluff but with overtime
analog elbow
oh my god, ive been shitting on thorny yazhen this whole time
Bro didn't read the description
somber snow
Bro didn't read the description
i did, but it says it heals 300 after it says it heals 5% every sec
i didnt think it included 300hp too
somber snow
the description is ass
analog elbow
Well 10% more is only good if you're at level 80+
somber snow
yeah, but my lavacake and my silly creature is above lvl80,
so ig ill use it
analog elbow
I mean people prefer instant 20% rather than 30% overtime
But i still like Thorny more
Nothing beats a thorny powder that's supposed to be harmful for your lungs
small creek
i like jincao for anti oneshot
small creek
i usually dont need the excessive healing of yazhen
somber snow
honestly, if something can oneshot u,
usually its umbral that doesnt let u use consumables
analog elbow
i like jincao for anti oneshot
I don't think i ever got oneshotted before
Like it's more fun to dodge a big ass attack
Like Rhodan Blast
small creek
i just got oneshot by rhodagn
somber snow
there's the rakerbeast in wuling that can almost instakill u i think?
small creek
i would like to dodge that yes
lament token
my products on Valley 4 always full when i logged in should i make things from raw mats and transfer is to wuling?
small creek
but phys wants to do a lotta shit
somber snow
my products on Valley 4 always full when i logged in should i make things from r...
no, its better to optimise ur production there first,
then u can decide whether or not to manually transfer stuff to wuling
analog elbow
but phys wants to do a lotta shit
Ahh
small creek
so before i even think of dodging, im pressing a billion team skills lol
dawn flax
generally ferrium transfer to Wuling is the most optimal atm, but you do you
small creek
my products on Valley 4 always full when i logged in should i make things from r...
turn off one ferrium depot and transfer it to wuling instead for syringes
somber snow
speaking of rhodagn,
i actually had the most trouble with him when i was trying to trim
lament token
generally ferrium transfer to Wuling is the most optimal atm, but you do you
it just hurt looking at full raw ores xD
somber snow
i was dodging everything, but he just didnt want to die,
might be my rotation tho
small creek
running 17/min buckA instead of 18 so i can import the extra ferrium to wuling
dawn flax
current Wuling has chronic-ferrium-shortage, so its transfer is most popular
small creek
but i only have to do it once a week
lament token
hmm would it be save if i make 2 syringe 2 batts?
small creek
wuling? no
lament token
i still got 80k on valley 4 TwT
shut rover
hmm would it be save if i make 2 syringe 2 batts?
2 bats is doable we dont have enough ferrium for two syringe
viscid plover
i still got 80k on valley 4 TwT
just set up multiple refinery it will be gone so fast
lament token
just set up multiple refinery it will be gone so fast
Yeah guess ill do that
dawn flax
1-2 syringe and 2 LC batts were my starting point in Wuling too
lament token
and yeah this is my problem
i got too many stockpile that the villager wont give me $
somber gale
Let them bleed
somber snow
u r not supposed to ahve lava on the last outpost
shes supposed to be on the 1st one
lament token
u r not supposed to ahve lava on the last outpost
oh yeah xD i forgot change that one
somber gale
shes supposed to be on the 1st one
There's an order to them? can i get the full list?
lament token
dumdum of me
dawn flax
i use Laeva - Chen- Gilb on the 3 in order
somber snow
There's an order to them? can i get the full list?
just read what they do,
when u select an operator to be stationed at the outpost
viscid plover
and yeah this is my problem
that's why i switch 2 of my buck to citrome
somber snow
on the right
lament token
that's why i switch 2 of my buck to citrome
Smart why i didnt think of that
dawn flax
the more yellow lines in them, a more capable
somber snow
for the middle outpost, use chen to generate stock,
then switch to ember to trade,
but this is optional, u dont have to do it if u're not that desperate
storm arch
Hey can I ask a question how do I put the pipe splitter near plot in wuling I'm mobile
somber snow
who currently whos the best for the 3rd
gilberta
somber gale
for the middle outpost, use chen to generate stock,
then switch to ember to trad...
nice nie
nice
storm arch
How do people put pipe splitter near wuling farm plot??
shrewd knoll
Hey can I ask a question how do I put the pipe splitter near plot in wuling I'm ...
put them in the hotbar at the base before going there
dawn flax
current mine is, Laeva for Refugee, Yvonne for Infra, Gilberta for Recon, all 3 has 3 yellows
storm arch
put them in the hotbar at the base before going there
Hotbar?
somber snow
mobile still have horbars im pretty sure
somber gale
for the 2nd yv has all the yellow lines up. does that mean shes perfect too?
somber snow
its at the bottom of ur screen when u enter building mode
storm arch
What?
dawn flax
i didn't have Yvonne before her banner currently, i used Chen for Infra, as she had 2 yellows
storm arch
Hmmm
somber gale
Ahh i get it now thanks
somber snow
put the splitter once u have the pipe set up,
u cant do it b4
viscid plover
sure would be nice to get yvonne in the next 10 pull
somber snow
i dont want yvonne, i just want enough points to pull for gilbs weapon
if i get yvonne, fuck me
dawn flax
Yvonne in Infra (2nd) make sense in context too, it's Her Science Park backyard
somber gale
best i have for my 3rd is pog
shrewd knoll
her science park is now a horror show
somber snow
best i have for my 3rd is pog
pog for generating stock,
perlica for when u trade,
if u want to
somber gale
pog for generating stock,
perlica for when u trade,
if u want to
thank you
dawn flax
the main large building she's stationed in, she has to mimic intimidating-male-voice to deter bonecrushers
viscid plover
Yvonne in Infra (2nd) make sense in context too, it's **Her** Science Park back...
so you telling me tangtang will be BIS for wuling 1st outpost 
dawn flax
so you telling me tangtang will be BIS for wuling 1st outpost <:PerliOK:13237953...
may be, who knows
viscid plover
has to be, literally her outpost
somber snow
100%, thats her stockade
somber gale
16M gone in the drain
dawn flax
and Gilberta did the charity-works (her chracter story) in Recon(3rd) so it's hers
somber snow
what about lavacake
dawn flax
tbh, idk
viscid plover
lavacake was in dijang into the hub
small creek
lavacake irrelevant once again
viscid plover
was kinda...sure i guess moment
somber gale
for wuling it's wulfy right?
somber snow
for wuling it's wulfy right?
wulfgards the best 1 rn, and honestly, u dont have to change
dawn flax
current Wuling personnel is either Wulfgard or Lifeng, both have 2 yellows
somber snow
but itll be tangtang when she comes out,
presumably
somber gale
wulfgards the best 1 rn, and honestly, u dont have to change
nice nice
somber snow
current Wuling personnel is either Wulfgard or Lifeng, both have 2 yellows
tbh, prosperity isnt rly needed long term,
early on, maybe,
but wulfgard is better generally
dawn flax
ye i picked Wulfgy too
storm arch
put the splitter once u have the pipe set up,
u cant do it b4
How do I put the pipe splitter in my hotbar I can't make it when I stash it it disappears
small creek
simply go to the facility list and drag it from there
storm arch
I can do that?!???
somber snow
do it like minecraft
storm arch
What?!?
somber snow
imagine u're playing minecraft
small creek
we always could
somber snow
just drag it from ur inventory
dawn flax
it can be bothersome a bit if the pipe is over the conveyer splitter/converge/controller, and u want to adjust the latter
small creek
this is like giving caveman a cellphone
dim fog
Hello any math wizards here who can help out how can I increase yield on steel parts from 60/min to 2x, 120/min?
dawn flax
in Valley?
dim fog
in Valley?
Yes, pls.
somber snow
this is on pc tho, im not sure about mobile
dim fog
mine is 90/min, still not your goal eh
My ferrium needs faster production rate now since it always stay at 79.9k
small creek
also i was wrong, u can put splitters b4 the pipes
me when im wrong
somber snow
dawn flax
My ferrium needs faster production rate now since it always stay at 79.9k
have u tried double the ferrium powder feed on the grinder?
dim fog
have u tried double the ferrium powder feed on the grinder?
just 1 belt in: sflow & fpow, all my grinders have the same setup
dawn flax
just 1 belt in: sflow & fpow, all my grinders have the same setup
to produce a ferrium cube it need 1 leafpowder and 2 ferium powder, that's a logic
so double feed give like +30-50% production speed
dim fog
so double feed give like +30-50% production speed
I didn't know that..
dawn flax
and i mean double feed in "full power" not split
dawn flax
I didn't know that..
u can check the formula in a machinery
dim fog
I just usually have 1 belt input per requirement.
dawn flax
1 is fine , neat, and economical
dim fog
u can check the formula in a machinery
but the grinder only has like 5 input right?
dawn flax
dim fog
yeah, that's alway the case for my grinders and always get clogged
dawn flax
ferrium cube > ferrium/steel star > steel parts
dim fog
ferrium cube > ferrium/steel star > steel parts
This is actually my goal
dawn flax
so double the cube-production = 1:1 accelerated steel-parts
i dont know if triple-feed still can go higher
i only double
dim fog
so double the cube-production = 1:1 accelerated steel-parts
doesn't your grinder get clogged?
dim fog
Also I am having problem with item control
dawn flax
this case it depends on individual layouts
dim fog
When I set the qty, do I really have to manually refresh it? I thought I can use it to stop/go input flow every x qty.
dawn flax
hmm beleive it or not, my factory doesn't use item control at all, so sry, idk that
small creek
what are u trying to do with item control
dawn flax
i used to tried 2 materials control during early period
shrewd knoll
the only use for it is to make 4444 bombs
dim fog
I started integrating it because I am converging sflower and fe powder in one belt then split it with item control at two separate shredder at the end
dawn flax
when 2-3 materials converged on the same belt
small creek
u can use item control as filter for splitter, guide for blueprint, and on/off switch
somber snow
uh
unique pond
Bro why my farming not working
small creek
idk and honestly idc
shrewd knoll
Bro why my farming not working
it has no output
or you switched the seed and plants
dim fog
Sorry I'm using mobile right now. I opened my EF. Here....
fathom glade
unidade de plantio --> planting unit. That converts seeds into plants, not the opposite.
dim fog
u can use item control as filter for splitter, guide for blueprint, and on/off s...
yes, like an if..then..else and switch()
dawn flax
ye try switch
dim fog
is that on Valley AIC right?
Power plant sub PAC
small creek
yes, like an if..then..else and switch()
i need u to simplify what ur trying to do
dawn flax
although blueprints of planting i accustomed are 2 plants+1seed unit
small creek
the most similar if then operation that control ports support is splitter filter
dim fog
i need u to simplify what ur trying to do
produce steel parts from 60/min to 120/min
sPAC output 6 = sflower, single belt
sPAC output 7 =ferrium ores, single belt
dawn flax
not sure if only 1 plant+1seed can feed in time
small creek
produce steel parts from 60/min to 120/min
sPAC output 6 = sflower, single belt
...
this produces 60/60 steel-cryston
and u can switch the amethyst for ferrite to make 120 steel part
dim fog
not sure if only 1 plant+1seed can feed in time
It's currently running like 1 seeder:4 planter
shrewd knoll
Bro why my farming not working
did you put firebuckle in it instead of one you can actually grow?
tepid wind
small creek
wow maze
dim fog
and u can switch the amethyst for ferrite to make 120 steel part
I got no probs on amethyst now production is on main AIC
dawn flax
It's currently running like 1 seeder:4 planter
that's a lot, not sure excessive
small creek
I got no probs on amethyst now production is on main AIC
yeah so just replace it with ferrite bro
dim fog
yeah so just replace it with ferrite bro
how many can it produce?
fathom glade
did you put firebuckle in it instead of one you can actually grow?
no output. Considering the name, it's that they put plants in planters (which is the opposite item you need to put in
small creek
how many can it produce?
i already said it can produce 120
small creek
Sorry I'm using mobile right now. I opened my EF. Here....
the problem here is not enough ferrite input
mine has 4 inputs
dawn flax
how many can it produce?
his blueprint use "double ferrium powder" similar to how i explained, but he got better amethyst-system, so use his
tepid wind
wary perch
am i doing this right?
i just copied the https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466043358509273349
dim fog
his blueprint use "double ferrium powder" similar to how i explained, but he got...
I'm studying his bprint now. I guess i can implement this on my mAIC
viscid plover
stop producing SC
dim fog
im right here <:ChenCry:1319511237561684079>
yes, sorry.
tepid wind
sc batt
wary perch
SC valley battery
erhm, what im prodcusing is LC actually. let me send screen shot all of my area
dim fog
im right here <:ChenCry:1319511237561684079>
so how much can this totally produce in a day cause I need to mass produce steel to promote my 3rd Valley base and start stashing cryston parts.
small creek
i already said it can produce 120
dim fog
<:ChenCry:1319511237561684079>
Your 3rd Valley base already max right? Cause I only rely on selling parts for bills... and my ferrium ore's just sitting around 79.9k always that's why I need to double or triple consumption rate.
small creek
all my valley base maxed yes
viscid plover
i mean...
you are producing both
small creek
if you need more, just deploy the blueprint again
its basically 2 ferrium powder/1 sandleaf powder per grinder like ENATOK said
and then each grinder has its own parts maker making 60/min each
viscid plover
SC use half of the resources needed to produce HC but sell for 30
HC sell for 70 at double of its resouces. gain +10 buckaroos there
shrewd knoll
it also cost less than half the power to operate
dim fog
its basically 2 ferrium powder/1 sandleaf powder per grinder like ENATOK said
Ok thanks alot I'll just keep my original setup in my PPlant spac and place yours in my MAIC
viscid plover
it also cost less than half the power to operate
i want to say this is true but sandleaf kinda skew it a lil there
it does provide a lot more energy tho!
wary perch
wary perch
wary perch
i mean...
you are producing both
it's a bug i think, look at my screenshots
viscid plover
good thing i guess
wary perch
that's why i doubt also
glad needle
Ay
somber snow
but i see 1 making lc tho
viscid plover
wary perch
also i have anorther problem, my originium, this one in picture keeps depleting. i don't even produce this from depot
viscid plover
yes that is LC not SC
shouldn't be building that either...
wary perch
shouldn't be building that either...
but on the yield overview i produce blue one
viscid plover
that's like even worse
viscid plover
idk why your base image don't reflect your report but the takeaway is the same, just build the best stuff
wary perch
also i have anorther problem, my originium, this one in picture keeps depleting....
i am looking at that blue one that's why i highlighted it, and the origium, it keeps depleting
i was like, there is a ghost factory
viscid plover
wary perch
destroy ur entire base,
and make it from the ground up
i did that just now actually and rebuild copy it
somber snow
just to be sure,
u checked all 3 outposts right?
wary perch
just to be sure,
u checked all 3 outposts right?
yes as the screen shot i provided just now
nothing on origin park
just on the plateu and hub
this my regional transfer
so that originium is not depleting from these
somber snow
have u checked the 1 in valley's pass?
young stag
i am looking at that blue one that's why i highlighted it, and the origium, it k...
check if you’re making packed origicrust or batteries
somber snow
check if you’re making packed origicrust or batteries
thats the thing,
it showed theyre making batteries,
but they didnt know where it is
now we know
analog elbow
tepid wind
the game wont let me connect more cable
wary perch
thanks guys, for lending your eyes on this blind guy
somber snow
i love chen
viscid plover
Look what i just found
still waiting to find out what you found
tepid wind
i wonder if theres setting that allow u to see the this wire thingy
analog elbow
Apparently Last Rite is so strong she has to train just for self control. Not to get strong because she's already too strong
So i told her to g00n me off, if my dih broke due to her strength i would say it's worth it
Elite ball knowledge
Oh frick i have to use my Sanity Booster
Ah damn my other phone is out of battery
somber snow
i used mine on essences,
got 1 for penguin,
but didnt for LR,
good enough
small creek
Oh frick i have to use my Sanity Booster
yea u talkin like u have 0 sanity rn
analog elbow
yea u talkin like u have 0 sanity rn
But i already have every essence I need
Imma just random ig
small creek
you should build a 5th team
analog elbow
Ah yes. I built 2 and I've used 1 so far
analog elbow
Hmmm big brains good point
fathom glade
Is there a list of power consumption per facility? I'm sick of going in and out of the database
small creek
Yeap youre welcome 👍
analog elbow
Is there a list of power consumption per facility? I'm sick of going in and out ...
Yes
On the facility itself
fathom glade
By that i mean, I'd like to use an excel sheet to calculate my factory totals and stuff and see redundancies
analog elbow
small creek
um
fathom glade
like:
for theoretical calcs
leaden drift
the meta is like 3 teams for these kind of games
Lavackes and lavacakes
analog elbow
Bruh
small creek
im sure theres a better way to go abt this
analog elbow
Excel
small creek
just make your production as efficient as possible
shrewd knoll
surtr is her own team
small creek
least input max output
analog elbow
Idk but I'm not really infested that i had to make an Excel about Endfield.
leaden drift
Idk but I'm not really infested that i had to make an Excel about Endfield.
People already made websites
fathom glade
I like using Excel, it's part of my job so it's nice to have it all sorted out
analog elbow
Cool
fathom glade
i can also give them to friends who aren't engineers
small creek
If you make your production optimal in the first place, you wont have any redundancies
fathom glade
so they know their checklist without me having to go into their games to build shit for them
fathom glade
Likewise 🙂
leaden drift
so they know their checklist without me having to go into their games to build s...
Excel is great I used to play sonic on it
fathom glade
I hope wiki entries get populated soon
analog elbow
Excel is great I used to play sonic on it
leaden drift
Excel is a very powerful program
sudden night
wuling ziplines if u also like
Any idea what this one is for?
thanks a Lot for this one
analog elbow
It's literally rare ores