aic-factory

[blazing rune]

after like 50-100 runs you won't need that alluvium ever again since you'd already have every essence you need

[sick basin]

Balls

[small creek]

mine in your m-

[sick basin]

Hi babe

[small creek]

:wavewave:

[vast iron]

id rather put a stack of batteries in 15 turrets than stash and reconstruct pylons like 20 times
also if you done just stash turrets and batteries get sent to storage if full

Well i guess it is preference

[blazing rune]

im not saying do that every run

just keep it connected until you don't need to use it ever again

[vast iron]

oh

[blazing rune]

it's not like you're jumping on a different alluvium every run

[vast iron]

i mean the point of using batteries is not put strain on the energy consumption

[small creek]

but if your energy consumption is below 5.7, its fine

can just leave everything on

[blazing rune]

i have everything on except one alluvium turned off

what energy consumption strain

[pseudo quest]

whats the current maximum ferrium yield in wuling

[lone pebble]

90

115 with meta !

[pseudo quest]

...dang thats not a lot

[lone pebble]

its enought for waht u need 🙂 ish

[pseudo quest]

no it aint i need more stuff!!!!!

90 vs 120

[lone pebble]

foe example , what and what fo ? :))

[pseudo quest]

yazhen syringes

[lone pebble]

ok ! u can have 5-6/min ! need more ?

bill`s wont build that fast in W , so u will have time to have 40k in depo !

[pseudo quest]

i hadnt been on for 3 days i kinda expected it to be maxed out

but nah only 15k

[lone pebble]

40k / 5/min etc 5.5 days to full !

[analog elbow]

Split it to 115 Usage

90 + Meta transfer will sustain those.

[somber snow]

manually transfer ferrium from v4 to wuling for 12 hours

[broken nebula]

When i use bulk selection, can i move the items around ?

[young stag]

yes

[paper magnet]

did i interpret this correctly for dige?

[young stag]

how do i split a 30/m line to 25/m though

[paper magnet]

i turned off my ginseng farm and aaaaaaaaaaa

i know what this is

its my illegal ziplines

i did it

[pseudo quest]

illegal ziplines????

[paper magnet]

pay no attention to the long xiranite line i made to save a protocol stash

[simple fractal]

Cursed tech that allows you to put zip lines in places you shouldn’t

Example the rooftops of places you can’t reach in wuling

[pseudo quest]

mood

[leaden drift]

i did this

Sandleaf produces 3 lines of dust btw

[paper magnet]

just the one but yes you shouldnt be able to get here

[wary perch]

ah, my apologies. My question was actually battery, then i slipped this to see if there are someone who has depletor of item seeds in an efficient way because i am currently working that facility at that time. My mind is burnt out solving how to remove the plants in an efficient way and the reason is i had it connected to the stash overnight. It's my mistake to not properly relayed my thinking in here🥀 .

[fathom shadow]

yes

[somber snow]

good job

[paper magnet]

i just had to turn off my ginseng farm

[analog elbow]

Not cool

Turning off Ginseng

[plain stratus]

are there any better builds

[dusty basalt]

Do i get more originium using the miner mk 2 than the mark 1

[marble yarrow]

nope

[marble yarrow]

6/min full-belt xiranite gear doesnt really have a good life expectancy. most would keep 3/min or lower

[plain stratus]

just run it for a day or smth

i ran it til I got 15k and swapped it out for xiranite batteries again

valley iv is pretty much useless to me now

unless we could buy like 100k T Creds every week?

but there's no T Creds for sale that resets

[paper magnet]

[lone pebble]

try artificing a gear with 60+ gear parts , and youl see is not enought

[dark osprey]

is there no essence node that's specifically for Lae's weapon at the moment? or is there somewhere I've yet to unlock in Wuling

[paper magnet]

its in wuling

[paper magnet]

you're not gated by gear lmao, you're gated by the stupid catalysts

[merry wagon]

environment monitoring station in wuling top right corner

[lone pebble]

that`s true to :)) but we were talking about gear components :))

[paper magnet]

but personally im done with my dps so i can do the rest as slowly as i want

[lone pebble]

this bi.. eat over 50 gear`s ! pff

[paper magnet]

i did all of my avywennas in 200

basically the cheapest catalyst

[lone pebble]

17 left :))

[somber snow]

did my lae in 100

artificing doesnt take that much

[broken nebula]

how do you get a 3rd forge of the sky ?

[civic sable]

You don't. There are only 2

[broken nebula]

man, shits fuckled

[civic sable]

With 2 my outpost is bankrupt every day and I'm sitting on 20k gear material

2 is sufficient

Power your base with purple batteries from valley. Then you have more xiranite batteries to sell

[broken nebula]

i guess ill have to check how to maximize the chinese factory. I thought i'd be able to double the battery production while also making the disk thing for gear but i guess not

[civic sable]

I just make a pile of disks and then switch it back to batteries

[broken nebula]

i guess yeah

[wary perch]

how do you guys have infinite plant farm?

[civic sable]

In Wuling or valley?

[wary perch]

Valley

[lone pebble]

1seed 2 planting ! W- 1 seed-1planting(wather)

[civic sable]

2 planters one seeder. One planter feeding back into the seeder

[lone pebble]

btw m wy are u asking just saw youre post ! and you have it as it should be 🙂

[wary perch]

hmmm

[wary perch]

because i just ran into a problem error

[lone pebble]

i meam i have this in hub but its a bit large :)) Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01o08a4A0oi635IieO. Copy it and use it in the game. (44*39)

[wary perch]

I need like to limit my placement

[lone pebble]

i know : saw that problem to 🙂

u ar eussing to much pilons and storages

[wary perch]

i made it like this as of now

[paper magnet]

You can throttle your gear production to something stupid like 1/min because you'll be gated by catalysts and not components

[lone pebble]

well no ! the out of sandleaf will be the same !

[civic sable]

The planter can't put out 2 plants even if you're feeding 2 seeds

[lone pebble]

here is an ideea of 3 !

[wary perch]

yes, but i need to deplete some units

[civic sable]

Because you're getting too much product?

[wary perch]

i got like "facility and logistic error"

[civic sable]

Or you hit the unit cap?

[wary perch]

nope, the unit placement is limited in AIC

[lone pebble]

no he reached the building cap !

to `760 ish

[civic sable]

Ah... Weird I've only done that in Wuling. Usually too many power poles or

[lone pebble]

ps.bridge count`s as building !

[civic sable]

Pilons

[wary perch]

that's why i'm thinking to lessen the units and the planters are the reason i think for it

[digital vessel]

Worth it to buy this or nah?

[cedar phoenix]

belts (1 per line, not per tile, but still) and splitters/mergers are also part of the building limit

[civic sable]

Nah a planter is 1 unit and a pylon is 1 unit

And belts. ^

[merry wagon]

you can spread your production lines to other outposts to lessen the strain on the current area

[civic sable]

Not capped

[wary perch]

belts are considered as units

[civic sable]

I know there's some space but I've never hit the cap

And I'm at 18/18/24

[cedar phoenix]

With all this, i'm just right under the cap here

[merry wagon]

with space for text too

[civic sable]

Units outside your factory count too. Ziplines, pylons, etc

[cedar phoenix]

yeah

[lone pebble]

i barely use 60% of the aic and 75% s-pac`s

[civic sable]

The count is by zone. So you could move some stuff to your outposts too

[wary perch]

hmmm

let me try remove some stash

in world map

[cedar phoenix]

not in the same limit no
they are part of the one you see on the map (id remember the name of it, capacity ? idk)

[wary perch]

i placed them every originium locations

[lone pebble]

dont know ! i tryed and it let me put 20stash out , and wont let me no more ! but i can put more inside the field of the aic !

[civic sable]

Keep those. Just make sure you don't have like unused facilities out and about

[cedar phoenix]

the factory has a limit in number of building you can place, whereas the limit shown on the map depend also on the type of buildings, some will spend more of it than others

[wary perch]

aaaaaaaaaaa

i know the culprit

my area is powering another region

didn't know this one is a factor too

[lone pebble]

nothing to do with it !

[wary perch]

but it works now

that's the only one i did

i remove a tower

then i could place again

[lone pebble]

Hub

[wary perch]

is what i thought at first, but it actually powers

[wary perch]

that is not the problem

the problem is the AIC area only, not the map

[unreal marsh]

Anyone else stacking up wuling stock cash(outpost)?
I'm thinking I'll stack it up until 1.1 and then sell
They might add one more level to the aic
What do you guys think?

[wary perch]

problem solve, thanks guys

[civic sable]

I buy the artificing material every week that's about it with Wuling stocks

If I get close to cap I craft a buncha gear

[lone pebble]

or transfer to v4 depo :))

[leaden drift]

I need the wuling bills tho

[unreal marsh]

I'm at 5.4mill :3

[leaden drift]

I bought the tower

Probs gonna relax on the essence tickets

And focus on the gifts

And catalysts

[civic sable]

Friend of mine told me he was selling his "excess xiranite" at the outpost ☠️

[leaden drift]

I will have 200% trust on every character

I have excess xiranite

[civic sable]

20k xiranite would get you 1 piece of armor

+the material to artifice

I ran my 40k excess into batteries

[unreal marsh]

🗣️

[somber snow]

woah

[unreal marsh]

ah i just buy the cheapest ones

[civic sable]

Made dense originium in valley and just manually moved it over

[unreal marsh]

just the 99% artifice and all gifts

[civic sable]

I couldn't sell my xiranite if I wanted to the outpost is broke 😂

[leaden drift]

I sell it when they wont take my batteries

[somber snow]

now that you bought all those,
time to buy all 60 sanity tickets in valley and wuling

[unreal marsh]

soon im missing the drill sadly

[lone pebble]

not yet :))

1 more week of staking bill`s 😄

[unreal marsh]

lol

[merry wagon]

snowshine questioning my life choices

[unreal marsh]

engraving permit is making me poor

😔

[leaden drift]

They need to let me buy more wuling chocolates

[unreal marsh]

800k per is daylight robbery

[somber snow]

u dont need to buy every single 1, not like ud have enough sanity to use all of them

[unreal marsh]

i want to stack up

since its rng

[lone pebble]

except when event start`s in 3or4 march !

[unreal marsh]

imagine something cool drops from gacha but you cant put essence because you run out of permits later

since we likely will have extra stamina to spare as time goes on

[somber snow]

we'll see,
rn im convinced i dont need all those tickets

got my lae and chen maxed,
2 teams is good enough

[lone pebble]

true , but wana make a goal ! off all heroes maxed !

[somber snow]

thats not possible in 1.0,
not even 1.1,
u can swipe if u want

[lone pebble]

wy not ! ? all of them -4 i have them at 70 !?

[unreal marsh]

ahhahahahaahahahahahah📉 😢

still cant afford 2 90s

[glad pilot]

???

[somber snow]

u dont have a team full of lvl90s,
max weapons with perfect essences,
and fully mastered skills

[lone pebble]

to many bridges !

[glad pilot]

how im js copying bp

[unreal marsh]

i think wrong map

[lone pebble]

well no ! wep on 6 at 80 dident bother much on essence at this time

[unreal marsh]

you sure its this one?

because this map is a bit smaller than the other 2

[glad pilot]

does it matter? i though all sub pac is the same?

[somber snow]

they r

[lone pebble]

and skills on most of them like this

[unreal marsh]

this has lower capacity i think

happened to me before i swapped to other

[somber snow]

wdym by lower capacity?

u mean the size?

[unreal marsh]

try on another map

[somber snow]

oh yeah the cap

still, all of them should have the same capacity

[unreal marsh]

trust

go and try on another map

[leaden drift]

Better swipe cause pots count toward maxing

[verbal wagon]

I don't know what to do... I'm spending a base and a half of space just for Large Battery Production

1 line of

[leaden drift]

Hc or wuling?

[somber snow]

valley

[verbal wagon]

HC... I haven't even touched Wuling factory yet I'm so overwhelmed

this is my first factory game...

[leaden drift]

Technically same

[somber snow]

im also new to this,
ull get used to it

now suffer

[verbal wagon]

at the same time I dunno if I just wanna straight up copy Oyuki setup

[leaden drift]

There's nothing stopping you from copying

The only reason people make their own is for looks

[verbal wagon]

like I wanna try man, but my brain is also kinda cooked after work usually

[somber snow]

the problem with copying,
is that u might not have any idea wtf u're doing

[leaden drift]

Or trying to be hyper effiecent

[somber snow]

u can take it slow,
no need to rush

[leaden drift]

The easiest way to think about it is follow the line

[somber snow]

its better to understand bit by bit,

[leaden drift]

Check inputs and outputs

Atleast what your doing is intended

[somber snow]

so anyway, how horrible is this 3x3

[leaden drift]

https://youtu.be/HYwMBbFhB50?si=kcOGNYYB36N5kY5Y

Compared to this type of stuff

Min maxing 0 sanity

[somber snow]

that isnt minmaxing,
that is quite literally just spamming energy,
who even needs 900k

50 thermals with oris is more funny though

[glad pilot]

when a facility took 10k each

[leaden drift]

Nah nah min maxing their 0 sanity

[somber snow]

rnt we all

[merry wagon]

tank production line soon trust

[somber snow]

now, back to filling all of wuling with mountain dew

[leaden drift]

We are still waiting for the turrents from the early snow section

I might start transferring wuling batteries to v4

Just to have em ready for the next area

[somber snow]

v4 is getting a new area?

[leaden drift]

Nah

Like new region

[somber snow]

oh, u mean transferring wuling bats to v4 for storage

[leaden drift]

There is some speculation on v4 getting more stuff later tho

[leaden drift]

Yeah

[somber snow]

yeah, i saw someone with 80k wuling bats in v4

[leaden drift]

Might move xiranite too

[somber snow]

so much work tho, not sure if id do that

[leaden drift]

Just to have a solid stack

[leaden drift]

People have filled the 40k pool with xiranite

So i think it isnt that crazy

[somber snow]

but filling the hole with mountain dew is fun

[leaden drift]

I might send liquid xiranite too

Have 160k banked xiranite

In case its needed later

[merry wagon]

I've seen people storing batteries in a bunch of unpowered protocol stashes

[leaden drift]

And if I wanted to I can fake production like saying oohhh I get 30 hc bats/min in v4

[somber snow]

oh yeah, i forgot about that

but then

the dijiang method isnt that hard

[leaden drift]

Ive done that too but this is even free space too

[somber snow]

i havent used protocol stashes much,
but they're not as convenient,
can u turn them all belt-free at the same time,
or can u only do it 1 by 1?

[leaden drift]

Protocol stashes also take up space and only store 300

[merry wagon]

1 by 1 I think, but they cannot do belt-free if unpowered, and still store stuff in them

[somber snow]

ye, thought so

good for storing some backup power,
other than that, they're kinda useless

[merry wagon]

just in case your v4 is already stacked full of wuling batts too

[leaden drift]

I need to.move over 50k bombs

To wuling

Or 48k to be exact

Never hurst to have an excess storage

Also my modulating battery system has finally hit max capacity

Therefore stuck at 6.8k power

Unless...

I move over 48k hc to wuling just to have it

[prime pendant]

Istg wuling is like a child when left unattended for 5 minutes would stick it's fingers into a power socket

Every time i visit Wuling it's out of power, i try and try but nothing ever works
I even spend time every day hanging out in the ship moving resources and materials from Valley to Wuling and still insanely low production and high consumption...
Okay enough whining for now
I have 2 xiranite battery factories, 1 of that inhaler like thingy and i still run out of xiranite so fast. Any tips?

[leaden drift]

How much power are you use

[prime pendant]

1.9k

[young stag]

unless you’re making xiranite component elsewhere

you shouldn’t be running out

how many forges are active rn

[prime pendant]

Nah the other aic makes xiranite itself

[verbal wagon]

Maybe I should just tear down everything in V4

What do I need to look out for if I do that

[young stag]

material shortage

[prime pendant]

Forgot which one is that, I'll be right back

[leaden drift]

What's ur production graphs look like

[young stag]

factories not working because you misread a formula

[verbal wagon]

If nothing is being made how will it run out

[scenic comet]

thermal bank, manually put in a few batteries so ur new factory will work out the gate, delete after

[prime pendant]

Mostly red 😂
I'll take a ss

[young stag]

i thought you were doing it to an active factory

[verbal wagon]

I think I wanna start from zero again lmao

[leaden drift]

It happens

Ive done that multiple times to

[verbal wagon]

Or at least to copy some blueprints so I can learn from them and then do Wuling myself

[lone pebble]

now this is nice ! lets see if we can make it smaller 😄

[leaden drift]

Still making 30hc/min?

Sustained?

[prime pendant]

Oh yeah the components
How much is enough of that?

[prime pendant]

Forgot about that, yeah apparently i am

[young stag]

get to 48k and stop

you could also split it

make 6 batt and 3 comp

[prime pendant]

I'd love to but right now it's 2 batteries 2 components and 1 syringe C
I'm thinking of switching to purple batteries, at least till i have 48k components

[young stag]

why run allat

you don’t even have the capacity to produce 180/m xiranite

[leaden drift]

Yeah you cant run all of that currently in wuling

[young stag]

syringe is only capped by ferrium

[prime pendant]

I mean isn't it less than 6 batteries and 3 components?

[young stag]

??

6/m

[prime pendant]

Wait are we talking about factories or pieces per minute

OHHHHH

[leaden drift]

The two comp makers is 2x more than the amount xirnaite you can produce

[young stag]

did you think i was saying 6 factories

[prime pendant]

Oh yeah i move the ferrium parts and bottles from valley

[prime pendant]

Yeah 😂

[leaden drift]

It makes sense why you never have power

[young stag]

i mean you can make it work off of the 115 max

[lone pebble]

1520(without stash) and mine ussing 2215(with) ! but still cool desing !

[prime pendant]

So how much should 1 factory make per min

[young stag]

split ferrium output

[prime pendant]

Good point

[leaden drift]

6

[prime pendant]

Oh so 1 factory battery 1 component should be enough

[leaden drift]

With that you will be making 6 batteries

And 3 comps

The reason being comps take 2 lines of xiranite in to be at 6 production

[lone pebble]

try this 🙂 dont mind the HC ! :))

forgot about this to

[leaden drift]

Bro needs more knowledge on the factory lines not the final production

[merry wagon]

wait are you producing hc batteries in wuling

[leaden drift]

Based on what was said earlier on having 2 comp makers going at the same time

[lone pebble]

well he can go backward , from the result to the production !

[lone pebble]

sence i keep my w-bat at 10 ! the extra Ori , help`s the 1 HC , and the rest i import :))

[leaden drift]

Yeah you dont get the issue here

[lone pebble]

figuring out :)) was stuck at that plant farm :))

[leaden drift]

Go back to faking ur 30hc/min production

[merry wagon]

interesting, looks fun ngl

[lone pebble]

will do 🙂 ty 😄 but i`m almowst at the limit ! remind me next time to post it 🙂

[leaden drift]

Its faked

Ur orginium doesnt match ur battery production

You hid the other products

Need to make em

[lone pebble]

oo boy , read true the lines :)) mine`s the 24 ! the 30 is from that 453255etc guy

[leaden drift]

Even 24 isnt possible

[lone pebble]

i can manage 30 but just for 4,5h ! then ori is depleted !

[leaden drift]

18 is legit max

[leaden drift]

You dont sustain that

[lone pebble]

wwana se make the 30 ?

for 8h-9h , 24/min for 4.5h 30/min

[leaden drift]

I can make as much as I want if I have the materials and depot unloaders to do it

Its dumb to try and convince people to do that

[lone pebble]

what to do with the extra space and nothing to do in V4 /.? flud it with depos 😄

[leaden drift]

Your sustained is hard locked at 18

[lone pebble]

i never tryed to convince anywone to do it ! i was just pointing out that is posible ! sustainable or not !

[leaden drift]

Dude the conversation was sustained

Then you showed ur originium as if that proved anything

[scenic comet]

you can fairly easily fit in 32/min batteries until you completely drain your ores

same goes with buck cap As

[lone pebble]

ok, i`m not arguing ! for me it works , so dont care about others opinion 🙂

[scenic comet]

i did that initially just so i had 0 stockpile

[leaden drift]

Yeah but we were talking sustained

[scenic comet]

ah, then 18/min on each is your only option, +24/min buck capC's

[leaden drift]

Exactly

Literally said stable

Lol

Ur 24 doesnt last

[lone pebble]

with this ! but got jamed in making it smaller

[unreal marsh]

looks so messy

[sick basin]

Looks garbage as expected from someone doing shit like 30/min batt

[placid sphinx]

Just making sure, you're aware that each of those intersections count as one individual construct right?

[lone pebble]

i know 🙂

[placid sphinx]

A'ight

[leaden drift]

You could have used two protocol stashes to get the same results

Just feed 3 lines into one

And the other two into the other

Then 3 lines from both stashes

If you wanted to run this

[lone pebble]

wanted 4 lines splited equaly in 3 grinders !

[leaden drift]

Yeah it would still split it equally

[lone pebble]

those 4 in 3 linesto grinder equaly

[leaden drift]

Technically all you need is one splitter

Because only one line is varible

Literally just wasting the amount of stuff you can place

[lone pebble]

timing wasent right with 1 spliter !

[leaden drift]

Then two protocol stashes

Two and two

With 3 outs

For each stash works

[sick basin]

Lowkey, dont bother bro

[fathom shadow]

nah we got the other one over here

[severe nexus]

Are you doing 24 long term or just burning stock

[lone pebble]

burning for 7h !

[severe nexus]

Ah ok

[prime pendant]

Ohh nah i used one line, let it take as long as it needs
I reduced the factories as you guys suggested and Wuling finally running smoothly 🌚
Thank you guys so much

[leaden drift]

No problem

Yeah we dont have enough raw materials to run to much in wuling yet

[prime pendant]

And the 2 xiranite machines limit

Forgot it's name

Sadge

[leaden drift]

Yeah 60 raw xirnaite limits alot

Granted if we had 4 we would have maxed everything so much faster

[prime pendant]

Yesss so real

[shadow hound]

Why is all YT content like "THE MOST OP BLUEPRINTS" instead of like, I dunno, teaching people obscure interactions and how to make things themselves?

Clickbait must grow

[leaden drift]

Because people are dumb

[sick basin]

Cuz you cant exactly teach how to "make it yourself" since, if they do show you, youre just repeating what they did.

If u want to do it yourself, dont watch anything

[leaden drift]

I might start a new account just to explain factory

And good checkpoints

Ways to cheese early game without depot upgrades

[vast iron]

Define obscure interactions

[leaden drift]

The battery set up would be one

If i were to guess

[vast iron]

I mean ig yeah thats a timing circuit

[shadow hound]

Build chains for aic products outside what the database tells you.

[vast iron]

Tho idk if some of the obscure interactions are intended

[leaden drift]

Another would be how to expand regional development

And things over looked when doing so

[vast iron]

Like priority splitters are a thing but its based on a bug

[shadow hound]

Some things other than buckflower can be refined into carbon etc

[vast iron]

So does that count..?

[vast iron]

True but it kinda tells you the recipes

Most of the recipes are found in game people just dont look for them

[shadow hound]

Are they hidden by a vendor or something?

[leaden drift]

Thats the type of stuff a viewer would think is a niche thing to know

You gotta remember we kinda know too much already about factories

[vast iron]

It doesnt tell you, but you just check the recipes in the facilities..?

[vast iron]

Yeah true

[leaden drift]

That we expect the same level of knowing

[vast iron]

Im definitely not addicted to factory

Cough cough

[shadow hound]

It probably only shows up in the database after you discover the recipe

Like fertilizer

[vast iron]

Fertilizer is a recipe you buy..?

[leaden drift]

Or the only time they looked at the recipe they didnt see it because it was locked still

[shadow hound]

It's also one you can find yourself and your database updates

[vast iron]

Yeah true

[shadow hound]

Can you not be patronizing

[leaden drift]

Nah it just tells you how to make it

[vast iron]

Oh huh

[leaden drift]

Its weird

[vast iron]

Interesting approach

[leaden drift]

I think that's the only weird recipe

It doesnt show up until u make it urself

[vast iron]

I mean the new wuling drinks are also a bit unintuitive

[leaden drift]

Yup

Things to do with them

[vast iron]

Since all old foods are bottles + powder

[leaden drift]

As well

[shadow hound]

Not even sure if they're worth making

[vast iron]

This one is circuits + bottled liquid like????

[vast iron]

Nothing else to use ferrium on

Unless u gonna make HC batt or wha

[shadow hound]

Yeah basically

Anyway is there a resource players have made that I can reference since YouTube won't let me mindlessly listen to someone explain it to me?

And by it I mean player discoveries about the AIC

[vast iron]

I have a super niche post

#1476003772890218638

[shadow hound]

Thanks broski

[vast iron]

glad to share knowledge

[dim fog]

Morning AICF can somebody here help me assess space efficiency for my sPAC 24x32. I tried saving it as BP.

[civic sable]

You can move the PAC. Doesn't have to stay in the middle

1 ferrium cannot feed 2 refiners they're 1:1

[dim fog]

I have bus unlocked for it but find it unnecessary so far.

[modern carbon]

Belts are hard locked to 30 items/minute, if you need more than 1 every 2 seconds you need another belt. Just FYI.

[civic sable]

Belt convergers will slow your production as well. Those are only good for items with longer production times

When it's being properly fed you won't see any Z's on machines

[dim fog]

I usually have my convergers usually for final production aka steel parts towards ProtS. I think I used some to streamline feed of sflower & Fer→FeP to my grinders.

[celest sigil]

one reason that makes it somewhat suboptimal is that one sandleaf grinder with only one output, despite one producing enough to supply 3 belts
it not only means that you are effectively wasting 6 fields, worse you are wasting energy, that in a wost case it forces you to use one battery more for energy that you could be selling
same thing for protocoll statch, that take away 9 space + energy

and then there is your ferrium dust production at the top
protocoll statch + constant belt blocking, because even if you are putting those belts together, they can still only produce 1 item / 2 seconds, your three grinders have only the efficiency of one because of that
and the two grinder on the most right are only feed by one refinery, meaning they are only getting 1 item/ 2 seconds, meaning just one of those would do the same job

protocoll stach costs energy
busses do not, making busses more efficient

wait, those 2 refineries on the right are feed by only one pac output
... you have 5 buldings doing the work of 2

[dim fog]

Wait up. I'm playing on phone now and the game always keep me dc'ed when I stay on DC for quite sometime. I will try to do a quick recording.

[twilit sail]

Guys, let me get this straight, I just need to take down facilities using origium to lessen this ⬇️

[celest sigil]

yes, you are trying to use more origium than you are mining

[twilit sail]

Welp I’m fucked 🫠

[uneven aspen]

theoretical shows the actual maximum yield for ores you're mining.

However usage is assuming optimal amounts being fed into each production unit making whatever.

If you can limit the amount of input to the production prevent actual from using up to theoretical it should be fine to leave it alone

[modern carbon]

V4 has a max Originium yield of 560/min, afaik

I believe I have all nodes tapped and that's my current theoretical cap

[vast iron]

it is

[cedar phoenix]

yep, if you have all miners placed and are development lvl 11+

[celest sigil]

Everything red, you culd effectively remove without reducing your factory output
because you are not providing those buildings without enough imput

[uneven aspen]

for example I have 1 gearing unit wanting 60 xiranite, and 2 batteries/packaging unit wanting 30 xiranite each for 120 usage in theoretical.

In reality I just have 2 depot unloaders for xiranite. 1 conveyor can only move 30/min, so 2 depot unloaders means only 60 unloaded per min.

[celest sigil]

you see the Z z z above your buildings?
that is them turning off (without stopping to use energy)
because they do not have neough imput resources

[dim fog]

The 3 refinery up north feeds ferium powder to PAC at the bottom section. But I think I still have about 2 shredders for sFlower & ferrium working at bottom.

[modern carbon]

day trading go brrrrrrrrrrrrr

[celest sigil]

no, not because I though they go nowhere

1 pac output can feed one refiner
1 refiner can feed one shreeder

there is only one output, you can't put that much stuff onto it and expect it to do their stuff

[dim fog]

My main purpose of putting those 3 is to stash fPowder on my depot currently just storing around 700+ ish.. Because my ferrium at depot already max limit I think so I have to somehow process them as fast as I can. I just settled for 2 ref & 3 shredders but adding more would make me overcap energy consumption.

[cedar phoenix]

I tried to explain it with a drawing (as much as i could),
the numbers show the amount of resources that are transported, in belt (so 1 = 1 belt = 30 item/min = 0.5 item/s)

and every one of these building can manage up to 1 belt

so there are a lot of buildings here that are not at full capability (all of them even)

you could only keep the bottom part (of what I've drawn on), and It would do exactly the same

[dim fog]

Kinda hard communicating here in Discord since it disconnects me from EF and have to log back in again while playing mobile.

Anyways here are all my stocks. Way too many unprocess ferrium ores.

[twilit sail]

Guys what does it mean if the yield and usage are both 0?

[sick basin]

Your depot is maxed out

So nothing is being used ti craft, therefore it cant be yielded

[cedar phoenix]

it mean you are not producing any, nor using any to produce something else

[sick basin]

Probably, idk what your exact issue is but thats what happens

[twilit sail]

Oki ty yall

[dim fog]

I'm having troubles with my bottom part of the factory. Initially I started off with 2 shredders both working on sflowers & ferrium and it clogs my grinders. I use to have only 2 so I added one more. I'm thinking of adding 1 more shredder for 3 of my working grinders to produce steel→steel parts.

[sick basin]

No offence but that wasnt to you or your problem if u have any

[civic sable]

I sf shredder feeds 3 grinders

1 SF=3 powder

Grinder only needs one line of SF powder

[dim fog]

Hmm I'm not sure how to describe it as my setup is quite tricky.. I tried recording first so I can just edit my message here instead of cnstantly switch EF & discord.

[civic sable]

That looks like a mess...

Easier to decipher with top view

One shredder will make 3 sandflower powder. You can delete 2 planter setups

[celest sigil]

for optimal steel production you need

6 refineries making ferrium (with 6 ferrium or pac outputs) going into 6 shredder for ferrium dust
3 grinders taking 2 ferrium dust each
1 shredder producing sand leaf powder, with 3 seperate output belts to the different grinders
2 planters + 1 seed picker to make the sandleaf

[civic sable]

Planter should be feeding like this

[dim fog]

PAC 6 → sandflower goes to 1 seeding.
Seeding is connected to 3 planting.

PAC 6 & 7, spewing out ferrium more, converges straight down south for 2 shredders.

[civic sable]

planters don't need to be connected to the depot at all unless you are putting the plant produced back into the depot

[celest sigil]

the planters standing alone is perhaps easier to understand

[civic sable]

they're fully functional on their own

seeder turns 1 plant into 2 seeds and puts them into 2 planters. 1 planter keeps feeding the seeder, the other feeds your depot or a shredder

[dim fog]

my current sflower is around 50k so I just have 1 seeder setup just to make sure I keep ny sflower supply stable.

[civic sable]

what's your aic report say you're producing/consuming?

it's ok for it to cap in the depot as long as it's not sharing a protocol stash with another product.

[dim fog]

Lemme check. I'll ss it and share it here then I'll see what adjustment I can do..

How do I check the log?

[civic sable]

corner button

[modern carbon]

Bottom center of the pause screen - "AIC Report"

[dim fog]

here..

[celest sigil]

you can also talk to your main building in the middle

[civic sable]

your "current" and "theoretical" should match... if they aren't there's something choking out production somewhere. So you go around looking for clogs and Z's

also for any product being created to make another product ie: steel for batteries, you need to make sure they are being used or they will just pile up. So your Yield should equal your Usage on absolutely everything going into a final product

[dim fog]

So is it efficient? The thing is it's not yet perfect and fully optimized cause of clogging..

I don't usually make batteries,mostly just parts. I'm only running on originium ore. But for my sPAC here, I think I have no thermals setup yet.

[craggy whale]

Imagine 236

Probably theres some bp that needs 2:3 rates and you just use 1:3 instead

[civic sable]

yeah how tf am I missing 4 lmao

[dim fog]

I have the entire factory setup in 32x24 I think

[celest sigil]

you are going to want to switch to batteries eventually, there just is not enough originum ore to be able to afford powering you on ore alone

[civic sable]

not to mention the amount of banks you gotta drop too 💀

[craggy whale]

Idk what u saying tbh

Since theres aloy of efficiency in factory means

We have efficiency in production

Efficiency in usage

Efficiency in credits gainef

[civic sable]

your goal is to make the highest quality product you can sell to the outposts.

[dim fog]

I still have some areas that I'm not mining yet particularly the stray ones with only like 3 ores. But I think originium ore cluster, those with around 6 or so, I have my e-miners on them.

[civic sable]

so you should be making batteries/capsules with the ores you have available.

[craggy whale]

Is this question for v4 or wuling

[civic sable]

you will need every ore deposit in the game

[dim fog]

I am asking help for my subPAC

[civic sable]

the is no nonessentials

[craggy whale]

Which regio

[civic sable]

I mean in the endgame I'd argue you could live without amethyst lol

[dim fog]

PPlant but I haven't fully unlocked max space yet.

[civic sable]

because it's only 345k profit a day

[craggy whale]

?

I dont understand the question atp

[civic sable]

I made my power plant a single purple battery factory... made sense to me. lol

[celest sigil]

for what you are producing, a 16x16 is like the maxium you should be ever using
you just have way to many machines that are redundant

[craggy whale]

What is this context of 16x16

[dim fog]

I actually kept all my sub PACs running instead of migrating all facilities/factory in my main AIC. the space isn't even fully unlocked. Cause I feel if I did that my sub PACs are just open spaces.

the 1st subPAC mostly ametheyst related and I think have some basic battery production but not much.

my MAIC produces different parts at the same time and still a mess.

[civic sable]

@dim fog have you done the factory tutorials? They might feel cringe but they can really teach you quite a lot

[craggy whale]

Bro whats the context here xD

[celest sigil]

op is making 15 steel parts/min

[craggy whale]

Op?

[celest sigil]

vertigo12, asking about their factory

[craggy whale]

What factory

?

[civic sable]

you'd have to scroll up a ways to see screenshots

[dim fog]

Just a subPAC.

[celest sigil]

this one

[civic sable]

there's just some confusion on efficient layouts

[craggy whale]

What is this steel component will br used for?

[civic sable]

batteries

I'm assuming

lol

[dim fog]

And mostly just stashing my depot.

[craggy whale]

Just making batteries and capsule a

Its more worth and efficient cost

For v4

Sc batteries

[cedar phoenix]

I don't think he is at the point of selling Buck A yet, but maybe Buck C or B idk, but the idea stay the same

[craggy whale]

Then go buck b or c

[celest sigil]

buck c is actually worse than just selling parts

[craggy whale]

Or batteri sc

Battery sc is easier tho

[civic sable]

the only sellable product you can make iwth steel parts is batteries

[celest sigil]

only advantage of buck c is that you can store way more effective bills than if you store the parts

[civic sable]

so if you're not ready for that yet because of resource limitations, dial back to the lower tier items

SC Battery is 2 ferrium parts + 3 originium powder into a packer. Sells for 30/each

easy to set up right out of the bus. No grinder. No Sand flower.

[dim fog]

I'll probably set that up in my mAIC with bus.

[civic sable]

Once you have more ferrium/m and more originium/m you can look at making the big boy batteries lol

[dim fog]

I actually need more production of ferrium derived products since my consumption is too low, so I got to process them. I'm thinking around 2.5-5k being consumed regularly since my resource just sitting at 79.9k

[civic sable]

ok well I'm sure you'll get it sorted out. I'm gonna go play starrupture cuzzz there's nothing to do on my game lol

[dim fog]

I'll get back to base and figure things out thanks a lot for discussion.

[craggy whale]

Actually vertigo

[civic sable]

wish OG Arknights was on PC without emulators

[craggy whale]

Lemme say it to you clearly

In v4 until u open to sell battery sc

[dim fog]

Yes?

[craggy whale]

Dont too focus on efficiency

Since otherwise u need to work twice to make ur base efficiency again

[dim fog]

I'm actually in the stage that I'm preparing mats for v1.1, I mean I'm stocking as much as I could. Atleast if every I need materials for Level 95-100 gear or whatevs

[craggy whale]

U dont need

What u just prepare is a lot battery

So u can direct working after u make ur base for those plan credits

Since it needs u like 4-5k power

[craggy whale]

For wuling?

For yellow gear

[dim fog]

yes. If ever they release new set. Or new formula

[craggy whale]

Just do it after since u can just turn on off facility

And change to other

[dim fog]

If ever L90 gears can be upgraded or enhanced.

[craggy whale]

Preparing in that progress will make u slower

Just use everything for credit until unlock sc battrry to sell

Then u can just focus at that batteries and slow the production for that origicrust

For wuling gear

Thats it

Origicrust just took few hrs to get maxed amount anyway

[cedar phoenix]

Best way to prepare for 1.1 is to have a lot of money anyway

of wuling money

caus that mean upgrade faster when update hit

but even that, is kinda pointless, I doubt we'll need huge amount, we can probably already do what we'll need in like a week I suppose (maybe not.. we'll see)

[plush copper]

Real endgame is max items in depot

[cedar phoenix]

I doubt having some more early-mid game resources will help in any way

[lusty violet]

80k grinders

[cedar phoenix]

but I can't deny it's fun to do x)

[plush copper]

Yeeee

Me hoarding Cryston bottles

Can't even use them yet

[cedar phoenix]

you can use them to store liquid Xiranite

[grand wagon]

where do i go to upgrade the wuling aic area to add the depots?

[cedar phoenix]

same as Valley, at the robot next to the aic area

[modern carbon]

...what? It's been more than half an hour since I sold anything, so why would my Amethyst have kicked on?

[cedar phoenix]

maybe you have upgraded your storage ? (development level)

[modern carbon]

!! That would do it. I just maxed the last V4 Depot.

[cedar phoenix]

must be it then

[uneven aspen]

depot max should be at 80,000 so it's mining to fill

[civic sable]

whoever mentioned making cryston bottles thanks 🙂

till it caps anyway. Then back to citrome C

[analog elbow]

YOU AND YOUR FANCY BOTTLE

Mod ban this guy

[sly rover]

So like am I supposed to use valley battery’s for power in wuling and use xiranite for gear pieces?

[somber snow]

u can, and when u can produce wuling bats, u can move over to that

should look something like this

[sly rover]

But can’t you only produce 2 at a time or is that later in wuling story?

[somber snow]

r u talking about xiranite, or batteries?

[sly rover]

Xiranite

[somber snow]

yes, u can only have 2 forge of the skies

thats why i split them

u dont need that much components,
becuz the amount u can artifice is only 60 a week, and that costs 4.8million stock

the battery and syringes production should be enough to get all the stockbills,
if its not, u can just use all of ur xiranite to produce batteries

[tepid wigeon]

At 9/min prod and 6/min meds you make barely faster than stock bills accumulate

So you'll eventually drain it

Then start building up surplus of batteries

[hidden temple]

eh? I could've sworn this couldn't be done before. did a patch get rid of the bamboo obstruction?
blue zip is closer to tp point but leads to an ugly zip on the staircase
red zip a step further but looks cleaner

edit: turns out it was always doable, I just missed the sweetspot back then

[scenic comet]

if you want to manually transfer, the most efficient item to transfer to wuling is HC valley battery. then you power your wuling base with those and funnel all your batteries and xiranite to depot instead 🙂

[sharp dust]

how do i mutiplay that

[frail axle]

do you know how to look up the production chain of items

[sharp dust]

what ?

?

[drifting hearth]

apparently not

[sharp dust]

no pe

nope

[drifting hearth]

you click on the item, there's an icon on topright of the mini window that u can press which will bring you to the formula for the item

pretty sure its top right

it got an icon of magnifying glass iirc

[drifting hearth]

👆

[sharp dust]

i saw that

[scenic comet]

^ ?

[drifting hearth]

ok then you know how to

[sharp dust]

i saw that but i have just one

[lusty violet]

i think u need to do the tutorials

[drifting hearth]

yes, you need to "create" it

you cant just multiply it out of thin air

[peak anvil]

halo,just started the game in 3 days or something. I'm at lvl 32. Idk what to produce to raise outpost level.

[sharp dust]

i mean i have like 23.k origram ore

[frail axle]

batteries and buck capsules

[peak anvil]

what battery? the blue one?

[frail axle]

check which ones the outposts accepts for selling and craft the highest tier they accept

[scenic comet]

find out what the outpost wants to "buy" and make it in your factory

[frail axle]

can i ask how old you are no offense

[peak anvil]

This factory stuff too complex for me,probably because u don't read fr

[sharp dust]

32

[frail axle]

we can help

[scenic comet]

it's not too bad, click on the magnifying glass and find out how to make it via production chain, from this screenshot #aic-factory message

[sharp dust]

ok so what do i do

[scenic comet]

here's a blueprint for making the thing you wanted to make;

[peak anvil]

Okay thanks. I was copying someone blueprint and i don't even know which item to put

[sharp dust]

do u have the blueprint code

[scenic comet]

so you should first find the item you need to produce based on what your outpost wants to buy, THEN copy the blueprint for that item

[scenic comet]

EFO011ea2oaaI3Ue34O7 (NA/EU)

[frail trail]

6 comp/m

[shrewd knoll]

refining it after is better since you save on the number of refineries

right now, you are converting 4, while you can just convert 2 after grinding

[sharp dust]

oh i have that

[drifting hearth]

wat

[scenic comet]

i know, but for new players this follows the supply chain provided by the game, don't want to get fancy

[frail axle]

have you tried placing it down?

[sharp dust]

oh no

what now

[frail axle]

start construction?

[peak anvil]

Sorry for asking such stupid question

but,when i copied someone blueprint

how do i check which mats to put?

[analog elbow]

Ofc

You watch the video

Or guide

[peak anvil]

at output port

[viral wharf]

I'd recommend pulling up the Production Chain, as it'll tell you what buildings do what
Although you'll have to figure out where the buildings are.

[analog elbow]

Or maybe they put it already

[peak anvil]

okay I'll try again,because they don't show. They just show factory plan

[analog elbow]

By copying the blueprint while the machine is feeding like (only works for Unloader tho)

Unless they are manually placing Sandleaf / Plants on the side to dupe

[scenic comet]

click preview on the blueprint, there's inputs there, check the planters for what plants to put

[peak anvil]

oh so either they put it,or you have to manually do it eh

[peak anvil]

OHHHH

THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR

THANK GOD

THANK YOU

[analog elbow]

Most plant dupes are manually inserted

[peak anvil]

ohh okay

[analog elbow]

Since you only have to do it once and it will run indefinitely

Unless you broke it or ran out of power

[scenic comet]

you still need to put plants into the planter btw...

[analog elbow]

^
Preview lets you see what to insert

Won't automatically insert anything that's manual. Unless it's Depot Unloader

But nobody uses Unloader just to insert plants into Seed picking

[analog elbow]

.

[peak anvil]

i don't understand this yet. But I'll keep that in mind since I'll definitely encounter this problem in the future

[ancient zinc]

Money money money

[analog elbow]

Lmao

[ancient zinc]

Sending to Banish REALM

[silent urchin]

Holy fucking shit, what an amount, damn

[grizzled osprey]

"feel free to explore Talos-II"

[mossy osprey]

Lads, in your wuling outpost, do you have more resources to sell or more stock bills
Ive way too little batteries n syringes to sell and im not sure if thats normal or nah

[hidden temple]

You should be able to keep the stockade bankrupt

[nova osprey]

at this point I'm saving all my stocks on v4 side since i have no use for them

[hidden temple]

at 7.5/min batt production (not including usage) and 5.75/min juice, you should be able to outsell em and even have a tiny surplus

this is w/ wulf liason and after tower defense upgrades

[peak anvil]

this factory thing is killing me. I only have 3 place to build factory and even one mats already took the whole building. Idk how to manage this thing ft

*fr

[hidden temple]

yeah, 1 HC batt line or buck A line can take a whole subPAC if not extremely compact, that's normal

it's fine to do 1 product per subPAC, but the main PAC has LOTS of space especially after area expansion

3 subPACs for 3 products, then main PAC for 3++ more

[peak anvil]

So the only way is to wait?

so that i could get enough product and sell

then move on to another product?

[hidden temple]

You can earn huge chunks of bills with stock redistribution elastic goods, or depot node deliveries
Those'll help with the upgrades

[peak anvil]

Ohhhh

[crimson inlet]

bro, I just maxxed by buck A and HC bat storage and immediately bankrupt 3 full outposts

[peak anvil]

okay let me explain my situation to you,hopefully you could help. I'm at lvl 32. Refugee camp at lvl 2. Infra-station is at lvl 1. What product should i start with. And what place. Sorry I'm really really dumb in this kind of things

[hidden temple]

transfer 40k to wuling if you haven't already

[peak anvil]

Just spam that? damnn

[crimson inlet]

yes

[lusty violet]

look at what goods outposts want, build it or copy a blueprint for it, trade and profit

[crimson inlet]

if you maxxed valley 4, its a waiting game

Refugee = Buck A (maxed lvl)
Infra = HC Bat (maxed lvl)
Plateau = Buck A (maxed lvl)

[hidden temple]

produce the highest tier of batteries or buck capsules your outposts can trade

do batteries first since you'll wanna feed some of em into thermal banks to have the power capacity to make more production lines

[peak anvil]

so do battery at Main AIC. And buck B on Refugees. Then for stuff like origocrust at infra-station?

does that work?

[crimson inlet]

God hand, please give us chicken/burdenbeast farms to automate fertilizers and meats

https://tenor.com/view/lord-save-us-guy-praying-in-car-kpoptwt-stantwt-donald-trump-save-us-gif-15614229185854802474

[hidden temple]

sure, sounds good

[lusty violet]

you can build things wherever, doesnt have to be same outpost u trade in, but yea that works

[peak anvil]

Ohh okay

I'll try that

thanks again

[mossy osprey]

thats right chief, i maxed my regional dev and other stuffs, i copied xlice's late game aic build. is there perhaps a better one out there now?

[nova cradle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4hnEyPCVJs

People keep creating solutions to problems that don't exist 🤔

[shrewd knoll]

cuz they got nothing to do in the game with nothing to do

[hidden temple]

sorry I can't be of any help there, I'm not familiar with bp resources

do you have at least 2 wuling batt production lines set up? along with the setup for syringes/juice

[mossy osprey]

I have 3 actually

oh btw i have nothing going on in the 2nd aic spot at jungyu valley

[hidden temple]

oh, well you'll still be producing batts worth 2 setups or less cuz of the xiranite bottleneck

yeah the stockade subPAC tends to be empty

[hidden temple]

this doesn't outsell the outpost?

[mossy osprey]

yea

im not too sure if its a minimal diff

or if its a very noticable diff like in the valley4 outposts

oh and yes wulf is on the job

may i show you a screen shot of me selling right now (its been awhile)

[hidden temple]

do you notice if the outpost savings are actually accumulating after every sale? it might just be a gradual decrease overtime

[mossy osprey]

yes i notice them, its a gradual increase acutally, everytime i come back to sell at the same time everyday, i have more in the bank

[peak anvil]

and when i turn off the game,the factory still run right?

[viscid plover]

instead of setting up properly he came up with a solution that spend more energy just so he can let his base go into blackout. amazing

[mossy osprey]

yes

[hidden temple]

and you aren't capping the products while offline yeah?

yeah the factory still runs

[peak anvil]

capping product?

[mossy osprey]

nope my products never capped

even rn ive got like 5.9k syringes

[hidden temple]

like hitting max inventory in the depot

[mossy osprey]

and 5.9k batts..

wait are they supposed to be the same amount over time?

[peak anvil]

How do i uncapped it or something

[hidden temple]

just be sure to sell to outpost before it caps
tho leveling up depot node increases your cap

[mossy osprey]

is this normal

[peak anvil]

what about depot bus? do i upgrade it

[mossy osprey]

in valley 4 try selling your goods 2-3times a day

[vestal tiger]

With your production yes

[mossy osprey]

i guess thats my problem eh? i outta redo my wuling?

[hidden temple]

yeah acdg to your AIC report
6/min syringes
9-10/min batts with 3-4/min usage

[mossy osprey]

what was the ideal number you mentioned earlier

for those 2

[mossy osprey]

this right

[hidden temple]

it's not ideal, just rough minimum to outsell
5.75/min syringes and 7.5/min batts

[mossy osprey]

ayo i just noticed something

my batt usage went up by 2 per min

[viscid plover]

[mossy osprey]

my syringes are a solid 6/min rn

[hidden temple]

wait actually yeah both being ~ 6/min might not break even

[mossy osprey]

but this

would turning off or removing xiranite component maker help?

[viscid plover]

we have people running 5, don't worry yours aren't too bad

[mossy osprey]

i see

[hidden temple]

it'll help yeah
alternatively you can dige your power, the batts you'll save from it should be enough to flip the sales

[mossy osprey]

also is 120ferrium usage over 90 yield normal

dige my power?

[hidden temple]

yeah, with ferrium metastorage it's effectively 115/min yield even if AIC report doesn't reflect it

[mossy osprey]

ooo

[hidden temple]

you'll still be at a 5/min ferrium deficit, but you can filter your ferrium unloaders to make your syringe production use 115/min ferrium

[hidden temple]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en
it's a resource that'll help you reduce battery usage

[mossy osprey]

wow that looks incredible

i donthave to modify anything yea?

just export the blueprint

hmm actually im gonna mod it to match my current power usage

[hidden temple]

I'll be honest I never used the site so I'm not sure how the process works there
but yeah, it shouldn't change your setup, just the belts to your thermal bank

[young stag]

holy shit

[sharp dust]

how? do i put in the depot bus ?

[mossy osprey]

fire, thanks a bunch gamer

[ornate fossil]

iv put miner on all nodes in valley vi, my theoretical yield for originium and ferrium is 560 and 1080 but current is 379 and 480, why?

[frail trail]

do you have development level 11+?

[ornate fossil]

yup

[hidden temple]

in my case I split 1 thermal bank to receive 1/3 batts from 1/4 of the production, to stash the remaining 2/3 for sales

this was enough to drop my energy to ~60% and fill back up to 100% with an extra 5% allowance (for my power usage)

sure thing, good luck and have fun

[ornate fossil]

12

[frail trail]

oh

[young stag]

powered them yet?

[frail trail]

theoretical 560and 1080 is correct

[young stag]

if your theoretical says 560/1080 you should be fine

[frail trail]

you just aren't using them so they are clogging

[young stag]

real data depends on amount of ores in your stash

[ornate fossil]

so current data is based on what im using now?

oki thx

[frail trail]

yes

[analog elbow]

We are in fact. Not free

[shrewd knoll]

but we explored talos and the vast majority of it gets you kicked out for trespassing, whats with that

[somber snow]

We r in a simulation

[sharp dust]

so i need the xir compoent and i have one of them should i a give up on it or should i do what i been doing witch is just gettimg sandleafs and then going that way with them

[frail trail]

?

[hidden temple]

[paper mica]

any early wuling xiranite component blueprint

[hidden temple]

I'm tryna wrap my head around this
are you manually feeding ingredients to produce xr components?
you need to make a production line for it, not sure what's to give up aside from the xira reallocation

[sharp dust]

i have only one of this i have

[somber snow]

[hidden temple]

do you have a wuling battery production line setup for power first?

[frail trail]

[sharp dust]

no

[frail trail]

setup a battery production line

you need them to sell for wuling stock bills

[hidden temple]

yeah go do that first, you need the power to place facilities for the xr components production

[somber snow]

He doesnt know how to make a proper battery prod. line

[small creek]

me when im bricked up or smth

[frail trail]

same fr

[hidden temple]

looking at this, it just occurred to me that I never thought to observe the trajectory of trends since the one on yours looks convincing
but I checked my stocks and wtf is this fluctuation

pure rng I guess

[hard yew]

Is it currently possible to max out outpost trading in wuling if I am making 6 batteries and 3 yazhen syringes per hour?

[hidden temple]

nope, need more
7.5/min batts and 5.75/min syringes was barely making a surplus for me

batt usage not part of the 7.5/min

[hard yew]

Right, so half of my xiranite is going into components at the moment, so swapping that to double my battery output to 12 per hour once I'm maxed out on components should be enough then, right?

[hidden temple]

yep that should flip the sales

[frail trail]

you could do 9 battery/m + 1.5 component/m

[hard yew]

Thanks for the help!

[frail trail]

also what do you mean per hour?

[hard yew]

per minute

[frail trail]

ight

[hard yew]

I'll give that a try as well

[earnest steeple]

Its RNG from a changing distribution, but the distribution depends on the good and the day of the week.

[hidden temple]

I used to split 1/4 xiranite to go into xr comps (10.5/min batts, 0.75/min comp)
it was producing ~1k components a day but we can only use up 3k components a week (60 artifice catalysts)

so now I'm doing a 1/8 split for ~500 comps a day and a quicker battery stockpile

the one time purchase catalysts eat up 10k components tho so take that into consideration

[hidden temple]

all I've heard about it is that it's better on weekends, is there more to it?

[earnest steeple]

In V4, there are 3 types of goods, low value (peaks around 4700), medium value (peaks around 5000), and high value (peaks around 5400). So, you generally want to buy high value goods if they're selling for the same price. And, yes, sell value of goods are low during the beginning of the week (Mon - Wed), and generally are high at the end of the week, which is when it reaches its peak, especially if you have close to 100 friends. And all Wuling goods are low value and generally will not reach more than 4700.

[frail trail]

how did people find that out

[hidden temple]

ahhh so the peaks are what's variable among the goods, thanks that's great to know
there doesn't seem to be an indicator in game for the value category of goods, is there a sheet/resource for this?

[inland perch]

im tryin so hard to cut down my excess usage
and it's also happenin to my wuling

[dark sparrow]

got a uh, nice amount of rock cancer there

[inland perch]

ymean amethyst? i got nuthin for it

hey im tryin to fix it

[hidden temple]

each unloader is 30/min usage, just remove em til you're at or under yield

you've got 2 fer and 3 ori unloaders too plenty

[earnest steeple]

Low peak (4700):

• Ankhorilling Kitchenware
• Musbeast Scrimshaw Dangles
• Witchcraft Mining Drill
• Aggeloi War Tins
  Medium peak (5000):
• Valley Hydroculture Fillets
• Unity Syrup
• Ses'qamam Knucklebones
• Astarron Crystals
  High peak (5400):
• Originium Saplings
• Vigilant Pickaxes
• Scrap Toy Blocks
• Hard Noggin Helmets

There isn't because you have to watch their prices to see. But you can either collect data yourself and see how high they go, or go visit one of the Elastic Goods Trading channels in #1467500307151065120 .

[weary prawn]

Anybody know how to calculate only using splitter so only 1 battery when energy almost ran out. Since i only over use 15 energy. Dont need to be 1 on 1 since i migt add more ziplines but i want this for now willing

[modern carbon]

I don’t bother with calculated efficiency, I just slapped down banks one at a time on my HCVBattery line until the number stopped being red.

One full belt (30/min) will feed about 20 banks (40sec/item/bank) once they fill up, if my math is right.

I’m currently running ~4 banks.

[earnest steeple]

You can use DIGE: https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

But if you're using 1810, I'd probably just stick with a 1/512 split (9 2-way splitters), and it's quite stable. I'm not sure why DIGE doesn't recommend a longer one.

[weary prawn]

Ah so mine is over kill xD ill check it out later

[weary prawn]

Well the thing is I'm using purple 1100 powet generation only for 15 is way over kill i wont bother if the ratio is at least half or more. And i would use lower but i dont produce any

Guess i could just split originium but all originium is being used on wulling battery

[earnest steeple]

yours actually doesn't deliver enough power.
1/512 is 62.5 power (basically 1862.5) if you're using wuling batteries, but you're usnig HC Valley ones, and they're a bit less power (1843) if you're using 1/512. You can try 10 2-ways and it'll give you 1821.5 or something if you really want to save.

[weary prawn]

Yeah over kill on the timer

Also im making use of regional transfer im so i want it enough not to burn through the trasnfer

While making almost full use of each battery I'll try 10 then

[ornate sorrel]

whats the actual maximum HC battery production speed if I decided i dont care about buck capsule

[earnest steeple]

18.67/min because you run out of originium.

[inland perch]

it's only theoretical excess the current/actual is less than the originium made so i think it should be fine

[crimson inlet]

gonna ask how you made this?

nvm, found the link

[fathom shadow]

normally i'd count how much a battery would fill and fill it when it reach that point/percentage.

got one with 15 min clock timer and would fill from 40 to 100 each

[wary perch]

So I followed the most like endbase here, i turned off another one(one is already off) it goes red for atleast like 20 seconds then goes back to powering up again

is it because of lack in originium?

[marble yarrow]

you can only put up to 4 banks directly from the packaging unit output, because of the slow belt and the slow production rate.

since battery is made once every 10 seconds from a single factory

you can instead put that many set of banks from the depot unloader, or from AIC unloader. since it has a higher output rate

or are you planning some kind of PWM/battery throttling

[wary perch]

they are like has 49 more hc each left, so i don't think it's the belt production rate

[near flower]

I know this might sound super demanding, but does anyone happen to have like a good early game xirenite component wuling factory that doesnt need a seperate energy source or smth

[mellow lily]

Then the split
In this setup rarly goes to the fartest

[analog elbow]

What do you mean by seperate energy source?

[near flower]

Usually the wuling blueprints I see often are very big. I’m just starting out but I am so desperate just for golden gear. The issue is ofc most xirante component blueprints need a lot of energy so I gotta use another battery blueprint to offset it

[paper magnet]

You made it to wuling, you're far from just starting out

[near flower]

Well I’m new in the sense I haven’t maxed out nothing of the sub aic or the main one

[paper magnet]

You're gonna need to power everything anyway to power all the mines

[near flower]

I get it

[paper magnet]

It doesn't matter

You can fit everything in 1 expanded core aic

[near flower]

It’s just I can’t build the stupid battery blueprints since they want max

Aic

Wait wdym 1 expansion is enough

[paper magnet]

To get the depot bus

I think it requires at least 1 size upgrade

But I think there are some no upgrades wuling blueprints you can find

The depot just makes it easier to place output ports

[near flower]

Sometimes I just want to crash out

But sure I’ll do that tomorrow

[steel shell]

Bring HC battery from Valley 4 to start things out

[near flower]

Don’t they need amethyst

[steel shell]

Use that for ur energy source

[steel shell]

what i meant is bring the actual product

[near flower]

I still don’t know how to transfer materials to other regions

[steel shell]

The battery itself

go to dinang

dijang

[paper magnet]

I'm p sure I powered my starting wuling just off originium ore alone

[near flower]

This is the step to make sure to like consistently transfer right

[paper magnet]

That also works

[near flower]

Yeah same

I still hate it

[paper magnet]

Cos you didn't move on to do wuling batteries

[steel shell]

well, it's manual transfer

[paper magnet]

1 wuling battery powers the entire wuling ecosystem atp