aic-factory

[craggy whale]

wait wait

bro why u count in big scale

just count for 1 item

how much u need

thats it

[sand pivot]

explain the logic behind it

[craggy whale]

Wuling battery

needs 15 dense powder

[novel herald]

can this work guys? reliably?

[craggy whale]

5 xiranite

right

right?

[sand pivot]

yeah

[craggy whale]

normal belt speed

is 30/min

means

each 2 seconds it moves to another block

ok

[novel herald]

ye

[sand pivot]

got it

[craggy whale]

to make origium dense powder u need 2 originium powder and 1 sandleaf powder

and it produces time is 2 seconds

originum powder

is produces from 1 originium for 1 powder

produce time is 2 seconds too

remember belt is 1/2 sec

so its equal to produce time

[sand pivot]

ye

[craggy whale]

so thats mean dense powder needs 2 shredder and 1 shadder for sandleaf

since its a same as sandleaf

produce time is 2 second

but sandleaf produces 3 in that 2 seconds

so u will always get 2 over everytime u produce sandleaf powder in the storage of that shredding

and remember

what is lc battery recipe

its 5 xiranite and 15 dense powder

so since belt moved block by block for 2 seconds

thats mean every 2 seconds 1 xiranite enters the packaging

so if its 10 seconds ?

then 10:2 = 5*1 = 5

5 xiranite

easy math right

[sand pivot]

I'm ngl this logic seems too complicated for me 😅

[craggy whale]

?

u want the simple math?

15 dense powder/10s = 1.5/s since u produce 0.5/sec thats mean u need 3 machine to get equal 1.5/s

is that easier to read?

since u produce each 2 seconds mean 1/2s or 0.5/s

same as reason why dense powder needs 2 shredding

and sandleaf powder can used for 3 machine

since it produces 1.5/s

but ur belt speed mvoed 0.5/s

[sand pivot]

I mean I get your logic now

but idk why my brain just works in a weird way

like to me it just clicks better to do the math like "you produce 30/ min in a fully optimized machine with a 2s production time"

rather than "you produce x/ second"

[craggy whale]

when u try to count to best produce just use 0.5/s

instead each 2s

so make it all produce time in 1s

but when u gonna calculate the delay time of item delivered

use the 30/min

or basically use min time instead s

[viral wharf]

Best to standardize it to either /min or /s.

To make divisions easier

[craggy whale]

/min is suck when u gonna calculate how much produce u need

[sand pivot]

but that's what I do I standardize it to /min

[craggy whale]

since it took a lot of more calculating than per s lol

[lusty violet]

honestly doesn't matter for normal cases, just pick whatever makes sense to you

[sand pivot]

I think the issue is the way the game suggests the information

cause you have everything /min

not /s

[somber snow]

whats the concept that i need to know when trying to modulate my power using 2 thermals from 1 belt

[novel herald]

It depends tbh

[viral wharf]

Each belt has a limit of 0.5/s or 30/min.

[novel herald]

/min for production units' output

[craggy whale]

30/min is equal 0.5/s

its just 30/60

0.5

[viral wharf]

So if you need anything above 30/min, you'll need multiple belts.

[craggy whale]

or 1/2

[sand pivot]

yeah but that'd require me to do extra math though

[novel herald]

What happens in the belts is easier to define using /s no?

[sand pivot]

when the game itself says 30/min

and I don't have to do any math

well ig for the belts

they do say 0.5/s

[craggy whale]

dont u learn fraction number in elementary

[novel herald]

The game itself uses both /min and /s xD

[sand pivot]

funny enough, not really

[craggy whale]

i already learn fraction since i was 3

[sand pivot]

I had a heart surgery when we were learning divison in math and ever since then my math became shyte

[craggy whale]

ugh

sorry man

[steel shell]

me forgetting everything that i learned

[somber snow]

he already knows how much he needs to make the wuling bat,
i dont think it matters what kind of calculation he used

[craggy whale]

basic things never forget me

i just forgot whats formula of this and that

but as long i understand the logic behind it i will still remember it

since formula == logic anyway

like some video said
W == P
W stand as Woman
P stand as Problem

[sand pivot]

bro is going to start a civil war in this channel

[craggy whale]

[lusty violet]

team second vs minute

[somber snow]

whats the concept that i need to know when trying to modulate my power using 2 thermals from 1 belt
other than "40(surplus/deficit) + 40 = x"

[craggy whale]

to easy calculate is

either u use delay 48s

and 64s

thats it tbh

theres nothing more

the more power u use the more bank use delay of 48s

[novel herald]

It's easier to calculate uptime percentage

I supply the thermal bank every 108 seconds

Uptime is 40 seconds

[steel shell]

woah

[craggy whale]

delay 48s is basically 2^3*3 so 2 side splitter 3 times 3 side splitter 1 time

[craggy whale]

i know u knew the vid bud

[steel shell]

nah I don't

[craggy whale]

W == T * M

[novel herald]

Is 40% of the battery's power output enough?

That's where u compare it with ur power usage

[viral wharf]

I just made a spreadsheet to calculate for me. I can adjust it depending on what new Batteries we get and stuff.

[somber snow]

saved

[steel shell]

Can't comprehend these numbers and maths

[craggy whale]

W == T * M
T == M
W == M^2
M^2 == root of P
so P == W
P = Problem
W = Woman
T = Time
M = Money
@steel shell good knowledge yknow

[steel shell]

shibal

[craggy whale]

[steel shell]

I aint reading allat

Instruction unclear

I only understood women is a problem

[sand pivot]

that was basically the whole point

[somber snow]

i think i summoned cthulu

[sand pivot]

women are a problem, they require time and money

[steel shell]

we're getting bonked

at this point

not gonna lie

[craggy whale]

im sorry for whoever mod read th is

it just a meme

[steel shell]

no you're not sorry

you're laughing

[craggy whale]

nuh uh

u never know if i were laughing or nah

[steel shell]

look behind you

[sand pivot]

ngl I don't think this server is moderated at all 😭

never seen them in any channel

[steel shell]

They only show up if there's a scam bot

deletes the message, refuses to elaborate, leaves

or maybe that's automated

[craggy whale]

ban is automated for spamm bot

they use creative technique tbh

using bot that ban every somebody who message in that channel

some mods are guarding their own channel tbh

[sand pivot]

they moderate by not moderating

[craggy whale]

also probably act as helper for their community staff

like to gathering intel

basically

to know what might player like in their community

thats how community staff works tbh

[digital vessel]

Is it possible to drain Wuling? what kinda production would I need for that?

[craggy whale]

to river that has unlimited water no

theres a reason why it called Unlimited

[sand pivot]

do you by any chance mean drain as in get all the stock bills? or do you actually mean drain the water 💀

[somber snow]

stockbills

they said production,
dont think that has anything to do with water

[craggy whale]

i mean stockbills is ez in wuling

since it doesnt generate much at this version

[sand pivot]

yeah it's just roku answered about water

so I was like "I'm p sure that's not what they mean"

but I wanted to make sure 😭

[marble yarrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8pnR5mbXKo

[craggy whale]

bruh

is this 0 sanity behaviour

[craggy whale]

@marble yarrow have u used #1475171010641924298

to let u know system that let u have desired any output number

[marble yarrow]

i refuse to touch anything splitter related until next update lmaoo

[craggy whale]

its not really splitter behaviour

[marble yarrow]

i feel like i'll just waste my time if devs didnt fix

[craggy whale]

its more converger behaviour

its not splitter

its more converger

[marble yarrow]

either way. they are both needed if you even use splitters

so i dont want to spend time on this until the next update

[craggy whale]

i mean smh the behaviour also affect with depot unload

[rigid stump]

What's the current max ferrium ore yield in wuling at current max regional development?

[craggy whale]

90

[green moon]

u must transfer from val4

wuling ferrite cant do 💩

[nova lodge]

current wulling RDL is cap at 6 btw

[green moon]

my yazhen needle is 12/min

[nova lodge]

too much manual labor desu...

[green moon]

just build two yazhen lines and do transfer from val4

[rigid stump]

So Why its only showing 90 on the theoretical data side and 70 on current data?

[green moon]

at least u dont need to mine stone on site

[nova lodge]

nou!

[nova lodge]

for your reference

basically there are some issues on your end.

[green moon]

current data is an average total with a 10-15section

say its linear , from 1 to 100 thruout the whole process , then it will be 50

[whole finch]

Use case for item control units

[green moon]

if ur current data is not flatline , wait for it

[sudden night]

Same issue for me as well

[nova lodge]

[sudden night]

I have 90/min ferrium mining

[steel shell]

Maybe you're full

or close to having a full inventory

[sudden night]

But I heard if you use Metastorage you get 115

[nova lodge]

too many explanations really, for the 70 yield....
from silly mistakes to actual issues.

and yes, 115 is the max yield limit for ferrium in wulling.

[sudden night]

But I'm on 90

Even with meta storage

[craggy whale]

they cant count it on metastorage

[nova lodge]

it will show up as 90, since meta storage is not included in the calculation.

[craggy whale]

u need to count it manually

[sudden night]

And on 120/min usage

[craggy whale]

so tuedsayyvonne?

[sudden night]

If I turn off 1 depot I can get lower but it'll mean lower Syringe gen

[nova lodge]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468631838695100592/my-toughts-after-100h-as-a-brand-new-gacha-player-v0-bqokg61ag3hg1.png?ex=6984b97c&is=698367fc&hm=1d9878061e5afb7ee7e2e8962a56f98397918e0aac3faa4bb9fe78c44e44697e&

[craggy whale]

aaaaaaa

[sudden night]

I see

[craggy whale]

i just love mifu

[subtle finch]

they're so cruel for not making the metatransfer 1800 u/h

[sudden night]

thanks

[sand pivot]

I wish we could chose any side of the machines in wuling as a water input side

[craggy whale]

they are so cruel that metastorage is actually act of thievery

[digital vessel]

guys, why is it Yvonne in 1 day, why isn't it Yvonne right now?

[sand pivot]

it being locked to one specific side restricts us creatively

[sudden night]

It's meta storage
Idk why they didn't make it a continuous flow

[craggy whale]

THEY STOLE IT FROM THOSE POOR VILLAGES

[nova lodge]

i am heart broken by the gacha rates instead

[sudden night]

I did not get both the limiteds

I wanna die

Seriously

[nova lodge]

always aim for guarantee....@ 120 rolls

[craggy whale]

i need my delivery

[sudden night]

I'm eternally stuck with this Aussie Bunny

[craggy whale]

@nova lodge im broken man

[sudden night]

Not like it's a disadvantage

[sudden night]

Yea
It's my fault

[nova lodge]

definitely a much more helpful feature....unless the devs decide to make actual building parts for water pipe connections.
then maybe not.

personally a bit worried about the new banners coming out later.....i might be able to get another banner character.

emphasis on MIGHT.

https://tenor.com/view/amiya-guard-arknights-amiya-arknights-arknights-amiya-gif-22363488

^ the OG arknights bunny.

[subtle finch]

wish they give us yellow cert shop equivalent

[craggy whale]

i dont think water pipe connection will be hard

[warped delta]

What a cute donkeh

[craggy whale]

since it has speed 3water/s

[nova lodge]

doubt it will be hard to make pipe components for building visuals, but that will give them a reason to not make the pipe connections 2 way lul :3

[warped delta]

Is there anything else we can squeeze into producing in Wuling atm beyond one line of consumables, one line of batteries, and half a line of xira components?

[nova lodge]

none.
you can however, limit component production and focus more on batteries by adding a few splitters.

or unless....you wannna do manual transfer for goods daily....

[warped delta]

I noticed I can't keep up with the bills regen of the outpost without selling raw xiranite, but that would be foolish given the components demand for artificing

[nova lodge]

hmm, i think you are producing at about 6 batteries atm for your wulling battery.
try to focus on it more to get up to 10.5-11 per min for the battery (need to consider for battery use as well).

limit the component productions

have your yanzhen production amp up to, 6 per min / 5.75 per min production works as well.

then you should be fine.

[mental scarab]

Hello, I'm a bit new to the game and I've been playing around a bit with aic, and is it right that in order to optimise production, it's better to use less outputs over space usage ? And if yes, is it still the case in the late game ?

[nova lodge]

i suppose you meant those unloader ports for releasing goods.
the answer to this is : yes, always.

space is more of a none-issue compared to ports.
applies to both V4 and wulling areas.

but at the start, if you are still running through the early parts of the game, then space might seem limited, try to upgrade as much as you can and focus on outpost sells.

[warped delta]

That's true, there is headroom for Originium, so you could use that with the xiranite for more batteries. But I imagine I would start running low on xiranite components then. Takes quite a bit even for one character atm

[mental scarab]

Okay thanks a lot

[somber snow]

not rly, u just wont produce more xiranite than u r using

wait u said components

not rly, u just need 20k

[nova lodge]

if you had just started producing xiranite components, you may let it be for a few days to run at 3/ min production.

after you got enough, you can swap (personally stopped focusing as much once i reach about 18k).

[somber snow]

you can only artifice around 20-30x a week from the weekly restock,
so you dont need more than 3k per week

[nova lodge]

current production for me, for your reference.

[somber snow]

thats why producing comps at 0.5/min is enough

[nova lodge]

☝️
yeah, artifice gem is limited as well.

[somber snow]

even if u dont produce the comps at all,
if u have at least 20k, you're set

[subtle finch]

i split one of my xira line to 1/6 and 5/6, that's enough to artifice 14 times a day

[nova lodge]

i have a hoarding tendency, don't mind me.~

[somber snow]

we all want to hoard, but wuling is just too limiting

[hexed raft]

does wuling have any sup PAC?

[digital oasis]

ye 1

[hexed raft]

where?

[warped delta]

You're constrained in Valley on the number of spots for taking things in and out of the bus/hub, so you will want to have continuous production lines as much as possible. The only intermediate products I send back into the depot are buckleaf and some of my sandleaf. Buckleaf bc I produce all of it at the Core while I use it at each of the Subs. Sandleaf bc the 1 to 3 ratio for shredding it makes for less messy blueprints making the sandleaf in a corner and then pulling it out with a depot unloader. (Although for HC batteries you will have to snake 1 belt of sandleaf into each line if you want to fit 2 production lines along one bus side in the Core)

[digital oasis]

in jungyu valley

[nova lodge]

for wulling, you will need to progress quite a bit further (as in...its the last part of the main storyline) for you to get the Jingyu PAC.

[mental scarab]

Okayy thanks !

[warped delta]

Fair. I'm still using up the non-renewable catalysts in the store atm. I'll keep that in mind. I technically first logged in on the 2nd day, but I was in the middle of a 2 week vacation, so I barely got to play until I got home. And I sandbagged in valley until I had completed all the quests there before moving on to Wuling. I thought we were getting the entire 2nd chapter at release

[warped delta]

By doing all the Buckleaf in the corner of the Core, it allows me to have all 3 Subs for Valley be identical BuckPillA layouts.

There is technically enough space to self-contain BuckPillA in each Sub, but then you start getting into major Spaghettification to fit it all, so I didn't.

[viral wharf]

Don't you mean 60 per week?

[subtle finch]

real optimization is zero stash, since that's wasted power

[viral wharf]

But yeah, anything over ~0.3 Xiranite Component/min is excess, especially once you buy off the 200 99% off Catalysts.

[nova lodge]

just don't overdo it with the optimizations.
its good to have more of it, but in excess and the benefits you get from it will just plateau off.

[warped delta]

I imagine the issue is scraping together 7.2M Wuling bills a week to buy all of those and also afford crafting the gear for fodder

[rigid stump]

Question: what do i do with the left over area in wuling core AIC? Also any idea what to use the sub pac area for?

[viral wharf]

This is my 3rd week buying them all out

[subtle finch]

the real end game is refreshing jobs for wuling deliveries

[viral wharf]

Ends up working out around this amount:

• Net Stock Bills = (+)760,832

[warped delta]

As I said: I balance optimizing with spaghetti, so I'll settle for like ~50 wasted power from some extra storage teleports to keep the layouts looking sane

You only get 1 a day and way too often ppl claim them and fuck them up, so most ppl do it themselves.

[nova lodge]

nein, real end game is fighting against RNG to upgrade your essenses and gear ;v

[earnest steeple]

You have enough stock bills from factory, monitoring and stocks that you dont even need to hunt deliveries to max artifice each week.

[viral wharf]

50 Power is only ~4.5% of a HC Valley Battery tbf.
3.125% of a LC Wuling Battery.

[warped delta]

Oh woops, I did 2.4M x 3 forgetting the 90% ones are only 20 not 40. So yeah 4.8M that's more manageable

[viral wharf]

Yeah that's not even including the profit made from Elastic Goods.

[warped delta]

I'm at 5.01/5.04k power in Valley. I have a partial line of LC batteries so I don't need to dip into another HC battery at like 10% utilization

My Wuling atm

[mental scarab]

Okay nice

[warped delta]

I'll have to ruin that balance if I make the partial battery line when I have enough components though, I imagine.

Also ziplines

[nova lodge]

different styles.
i personally will just produce the powder itself and connect it to the Buck A line. (to save on depot unloaders).
but different people do things differently.
in the mean time.....snowshine is really starting to grow on me O.O, mixing into yvonne team kind of works.

[viral wharf]

Lol on the dot

[warped delta]

I went through a few iterations before settling on this, yeah. The reason I went with it ultimately is the Subs can fit 13 depot unloaders along the hub, but BuckA only needs 12 if you do all the planting "remote" so I needed way less belts and spaghetti

[nova lodge]

my base don't have much belts....but its far from the ideal symmetry / power usage minimalist.

i just enjoy placing random stuff on the map~~

[sand pivot]

looking good ngl

[nova lodge]

[sand pivot]

I am building my LC battery production lines in wuling

and I have no power to power the machines

[sand pivot]

but I will go get some from v4

just to kick start them

44x56 production line 💀

[warped delta]

Someone posted this on another discord. Dunno if they made it themselves or merely copied the blueprint but:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774760893518315540/1474062944684867686/image.png?ex=699c7018&is=699b1e98&hm=826c8365cfdcc8cb2fec9000bf5404d0a66c6b9993e34d3037d9b0016516f8bd&=&format=webp&quality=lossless
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/774760893518315540/1474063024993337508/image.png?ex=699c702b&is=699b1eab&hm=6ff4352b524844e1ac06c6bfe93ca127bd84a642f31eeed4cc8763975d052eca&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1604&height=902

(Almost) perfectly balanced, as all things should be /s

[nova lodge]

when they have too much spare time on their hands :v

[subtle finch]

here's my double symmetric

[mental scarab]

I guess it's good enough, isn't it ? 36x17

[nova lodge]

don't show that to new players....gonna hurt their eyes lul

[nova lodge]

good, but don't forget about storing your excess batteries~~~

[sand pivot]

😭

I have a 44x56 bp for LC wuling production

2 production lines though

[mental scarab]

Oh yes thx

[candid moth]

4 ziplines away from total collapse

[subtle finch]

i'm in dige mode

[pulsar sierra]

anyone have an idea why this happens?

[candid moth]

Wdym

Everything looks fine

[sand pivot]

the hell does this mean? 💀 I just went to the other edge of the PAC area, not even that long?

[nova lodge]

if you meant theoritical usage data, don't worry about it too much.
it means some buildings aren't performing at 100% efficiency.

[digital oasis]

just put a spliter or something and it extends it

[sand pivot]

I see I see

[nova lodge]

welcome to pipping memes in wulling.

[sand pivot]

I wonder if a converger works

[pulsar sierra]

but it bothers meee

it's like, one gets stuck every 2 hours

[nova lodge]

you will see it....whether you like it or not huehue.

especially when it comes to sandleaf.

[pulsar sierra]

holy full

[sick basin]

Why does man have so much pinned

[nova lodge]

i make multiple items since i am too lazy to setup a line later just because the no. goes down (hoarder tendencies here).

i do not pin plants though, since those just does its own thing in a corner.
sandleaf is the only exception.

[mental scarab]

Regarding that setup, isn't it better to have that one ?? it's 22x10

[nova lodge]

^nearly identical space usage, just different orientation and may work with slight changes in AIC build space.

basically a good alternative option.

you do need to build another electrical pylon for it though.

[mental scarab]

Do they take energy ?

[nova lodge]

they don't, but they do take AIC build limit.

[mental scarab]

Oh there is a limit in the number of machines ?

[nova lodge]

yes, there is a limit for them.
main aic should be around 512, not fully certain for this one.
but small sub-pac is around 254.

each individual belts = 1 structure.
building = 1 structure.
splitters / convergers etc = 1 structures.

belts connected to bridge / convergers each is counted as 1 structure.

[subtle finch]

this is technically more compact, but you need multiple

[pulsar sierra]

yea i managed to hit it a couple times in the valley pass a couple weeks ago

[nova lodge]

you generally won't reach it....unless you spam bridges / splitters a lot.

[pulsar sierra]

i was so upset cause i had this grandiose idea for my factory

[nova lodge]

[mental scarab]

Do conveyors count as well ?

[mental scarab]

Oh right

[nova lodge]

yes, every build counts.

[mental scarab]

Okay

[trail vine]

what are the current maximum ore outputs in Wuling?

[subtle finch]

360 ori, 90+25 ferium w/ meta transfer

[nova lodge]

^

• xiranite 60 per min.
  (technically a limited 'ore' so....)

[subtle finch]

they call it originium derivative, but there's no originium on the recipe, just plants and water

[nova lodge]

too organic

[sacred willow]

hey guys what was that blueprint that made it so you didnt waste power/batterys
i cant seem to find it
dose anyone know hat im talking abaut

[sick basin]

Pwm

Yeah

[nova lodge]

PWM - pulse width modulation

[sick basin]

Use d.i.g.e.

[nova lodge]

black magic intensifies....

[trail vine]

that's not even enough for one yanzen syringe, holy shit

[sick basin]

Correct,its why u transfer bottles

[nova lodge]

yeah, gotta need to ferry some via dijiang every now and then.

[sick basin]

Basicaly a must

[nova lodge]

either ferrium top up or bottle top up, either works depending on your build.
or you can keep the production restricted to 5.75....

[sick basin]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[sacred willow]

thanks

[sick basin]

Hope u can figure out the workings yourself

[trail vine]

I sadly can't be arsed to manually top it up, so marginal production inefficiency it is

[sand pivot]

theoretical data doesn't matter for ores right?

I mean nvm even without the theoretical I'm still on a deficit

chat I'm kinda cooked, am I not?

[nova lodge]

yeah, you just cooked yourself, still got batteries?
better get it up soon.

[sand pivot]

wait no disregard the valley ones

I mean the LC wuling

this is wuling data

so the bucks A and HC don't apply

that's why it says 0 on depot

my issue is how can I get originium ore up?

[craggy whale]

Automated Power Detector, Adjuster, and Emergency Generator. + Discussing Building Techniques. @atomic fiber SEE EMERGENCY GEN

[sand pivot]

pretty sure I got all the ore sites

could it be because of low development level?

maybe I need higher development level for higher yield/ purity

[nova lodge]

you can check on your map if all the ores had been powered on properly by clicking on the mineral nodes on the map.

[sand pivot]

yeah I did

[nova lodge]

ok, then its possible to be RDL issue.

[sand pivot]

can you show me your RDM?

[pulsar sierra]

wuling development for max ore output is at level 4

[sand pivot]

can someone who's maxed show RDM + originium AIC report pls?

[sand pivot]

ty ty so yeah I am missing some sites from low level, I have all the ones I can

idk how I will level up the RDL when I can't produce the stuff to level it up

[nova lodge]

yeah, probably purity is the remaining factor.
max should at RDL 4 for wulling ores atm.

[sand pivot]

I only have 2 LC production lines

and it's already cooking me 😭

maybe I'll use some valley 4 batteries to keep this running

and use the LC from wuling to get stock bills and upgrade?

[pulsar sierra]

thats what i do

[nova lodge]

Wulling battery? yes.
everyone sell tons of battery and yanzhen syringe for outpost upgrades and credits

[sand pivot]

yeah

I need to work on yanzhen syringe

[nova lodge]

alongside doing stock exchange, evironmental monitoring and depot deliveries of course.

[sand pivot]

but I don't even have enough energy to power my battery production let alone yazhen syringe

we're so freaking cooked chat

[nova lodge]

just use some wulling battery to power things....

or ship some HC over from V4.

[sand pivot]

yeah I will use it on a single thermal bank

[nova lodge]

yep, as long as it self cycle, you can think of further optimization later once you got more stock.

[sick basin]

Stock wulling, use hc

[sand pivot]

I am only gonna use 1 single thermal bak

bank

so I can save HC cause I sell them in V4 for stockbill goodies too

[nova lodge]

1 is more than enough really, for wulling.
2 is the average for late game use in wulling.
(just to make your life easier for power usage in wulling).

[sick basin]

With the 18/18/24 set up u habe more batteries than u can sell

[sand pivot]

I have 2 battery production lines

[sick basin]

So it stock pilles

[sand pivot]

so yeah, 1 is enough

it's the only thing I have

1.3k consumption

LC gives 1.6k

should be enough

just gotta check how much the syringes consume energy wise

[nova lodge]

500 energy margains i see, should work.

[sand pivot]

I just want to level wuling asap

so I can produce the batteries efficiently ngl

[nova lodge]

hmm, i figured reactor crucible takes 100 energy, glad to know i am proven wrong.

[pulsar sierra]

my wuling stats are pretty wild

[nova lodge]

bet that there is a lot of splitters involved.

[sand pivot]

how are u using so much xiranite?

[nova lodge]

his xiranite is constant at 60/60 usage though?

[pulsar sierra]

thats just the gearing machine turned off

[sand pivot]

does anyone Americas/ EU have a yazhen syringe bp?

I lowkey spent 4h desinging the battery production lines and I don't have patience for another 4h of designing a production line 😭

[subtle finch]

we have a blueprint channel

[viral wharf]

Yazhen Syringe has a much simpler recipe though

[sand pivot]

ngl I didn't even know it existed

I just knew about the event one

is the recipe the same as long as I change the jincao with yazhen in the planters?

[subtle finch]

yes

[somber snow]

yes

[sand pivot]

ok ok tysm

[charred quest]

it's 1/3 the size of battery

[nova lodge]

i just randomly set my yanzhen line up lul.
didn't bother much with fixing it.

its like a jumbled lego.

[charred quest]

Wuling can only afford 1 Syringe line

half if the machine there is just wasting power

[pulsar sierra]

it can barely handle a syringe line lol

held by hopes and dreams

[sand pivot]

bro this guy bamboozled me

he shared a bp that doesn't include the bus unloaders

😭

[warped delta]

Never thought of that way. There's more than 1 way to do it of course, so whatever you like best. Mine looks like it's 15x15 so technically the outer footprint uses 5 more space per se, but things aren't so space tight that it matters THAT much. There is plenty of open space still in both my Core and Subs even after 3 HC and 3 PillA lines.

[nova osprey]

what da heck

[pulsar sierra]

yea it's pretty wacky

i wish i could ZOOM OUT

[vestal tiger]

Why do you have like 2 lines

[sand pivot]

the bp is not mine

[vestal tiger]

You can like remove half of the stuff

Cos wuling can't even sustain one full line

Cos ferium be low

[sand pivot]

I am assuming they went with that for future expansion

we won't be on low ferrium forever

[lusty violet]

unless you ferry ferrium as a part time job

[sand pivot]

that too 💀

[pulsar sierra]

i would not try to make something for the future this early

[sand pivot]

tbh if you fill your backpack with ferrium you can carry enough to sustain it for a while

[vestal tiger]

You could stand in dijang and transfer ferrium to your inventory, change the connection and transfer them into wuling

[sand pivot]

oh yeah I didn't think about dijang ngl

[vestal tiger]

But that'll take ages, and your valley IV should be maxed on ferrium anyways

[sand pivot]

it is indeed

either way though idrm this way I won't have to bother with it in the future

[vestal tiger]

You might have to

Cos future would bring yazhen syringe B

And A

And the upgraded versions of jincao drinks

[pulsar sierra]

yea

[vestal tiger]

And then it'll be more worth while to make those, and you run your current lines for nothing

[sand pivot]

yeah but I'm assuming like bucks A for you to be able to produce those you need max resources

so until I level up my RDL enough, I'll be staying on syringe C for a while

[vestal tiger]

You don't need max resources to make like one line of buck a

But whatever you like I guess

[sand pivot]

not for one yeah but you still need a high level if you're considering battery productions + bucks A

bucks A would only come in the priority list after the batteries since they give you energy to run the machines

[pulsar sierra]

ud probs be making B in the next patch

[sand pivot]

and the same stock bills

[vestal tiger]

I wonder what would force players to make the next tier of batteries when the LC one already gives 1600 power

[pulsar sierra]

probs just to sell

[vestal tiger]

Surely they will not do something like make a unit that consumes 1000 power a minute

[lusty violet]

dont give em ideas

[vestal tiger]

Ja capitalism

[sand pivot]

or prob the next maps they add will have shyte that consumes a lot of power p min

[pulsar sierra]

nuclear reactor

make diamonds

100000W

[vestal tiger]

I think we might have a new ore next patch

Or a new plant to replace sandleaf

[pulsar sierra]

instinanous power outage when done incorrectly

sandleaf will be demoted to A tier

[warped delta]

Who needs sandleaf, it's course and rough and gets everywhere

[pulsar sierra]

god considering we already set up like 12 lines of it already...

[vestal tiger]

Maybe next region we get lava and I can abandon you there after having obtained the high ground and defeated you

We might actually

[viral wharf]

It'll likely be (one of) the most efficient to sell, alongside being more efficient on resources.

[vestal tiger]

The current main mission name is way of water
And next one being fire and ash would be very memable

Cos the blue ppl avatar

[warped delta]

Lava! My only weakness!

[vestal tiger]

So you are weak to lavacakes

[warped delta]

My friend needed my help for that one on the card bc he didn't know what a lavacake was

[pulsar sierra]

tbf the card shit wasnt clear on some things

[vestal tiger]

Hmm?

It was very clear

[pulsar sierra]

like "meat" being in a clay pot

i think it's better i say "obvious"?

[vestal tiger]

Ja that's better

[pulsar sierra]

it helps being asian

dem fireworks are loud asf

[vestal tiger]

Maybe it's clear to be cos I'm Chinese

Racial advantage

[somber snow]

uh huh

i like the joke where ppl kept saying gacha players cant read

[pulsar sierra]

too many ipad kids

[stark osprey]

I wouldn't say no to that

Give me a machine that works like the forge of the sky that has a placement limit that uses water to cool it as well and my life is yours

Or Xiranite water to make things interesting

[mental scarab]

What's the best to farm in the long run then ? Only A pills ?

[somber snow]

something like this

[sand pivot]

ok we're good, got RDL to level 4 and now I can have 2 production lines of battery without it bricking itself

[mental scarab]

Okay thx

[sand pivot]

@somber snow can you show me your V4 RDM pls?

if you're maxed that is

I just want to make sure I'm maxed before spending all my bills on sanity tickets 💀

[somber snow]

my regional development level is 12

[sand pivot]

this is my RDM Log

I think I am missing something but idk what

wait I think I remmeber actually, it's power plateau brb

[somber snow]

alr

[sand pivot]

no nvm, I actually don't know if I'm missing anything depot wise, can you show me your rdm log pls?

[sand pivot]

so outpost connection and prosperity

does that mean just level up the outposts through stockbills trading?

[somber snow]

yeah

[real crescent]

yes

[sand pivot]

it's so strange

cause my outposts are both level 4

1 of them is basically level 5 (at cap)

[somber snow]

what about the expansion and depot upgrades?

[sand pivot]

all maxed out

unless I skipped smth

let me double check rq

[sand pivot]

yeah all upgraded

does the tower defense thingy majingy count towards prosperity? asking cause I haven't done any of it (kinda boring to me)

[somber snow]

dont think it does,
becuz my RDL was lvl12 b4 i completed the tower defense,
but u should do it regardless

[uneven aspen]

all i know is autodefense gives a perma buff

[warped delta]

Either A consumable, Buck or Citrome, doesn't matter. You can make 3 lines of them along with 3 HC battery lines and be within the Valley resources. Leaves 20 Orig and all Amethyst leftover.

[warped delta]

It gives you a permanent buff to stock bills generated by the outpost, so if you find yourself tapping out all the stocks an outpost has, you will want to do it.

[sand pivot]

oh I see

then that's fine honestly

I don't produce enough to clear the outposts anyways

[warped delta]

You can then make like a bunch of amethyst bottles as package fodder or something

[sand pivot]

if you have space

after the bucks A and battery production lines

[somber snow]

there's a lot of leftover space actually

[sand pivot]

I don't have any space for depot unloaders ngl

but I am not that space efficient cause I like my stuff symmetrical

[somber snow]

that makes sense

[mental scarab]

Okay thx

[somber snow]

even then, i dont think that should take up too much space

[sand pivot]

like my 2 production lines of LC wuling took 75% of my level 2 core PAC area

[somber snow]

well yeah, the base PAC without or with minimal upgrades is rly small in wuling

[warped delta]

Don't forget you can move the PAC inside the factory footprint...

[sand pivot]

yeah I am using the PAC as bus unloaders

[warped delta]

The Wuling bus is really OP bc you can put it anywhere and place depot unloaders on any side of it

[fallen gorge]

hello chat, does anyone know where I can buy fertilizers?

[sand pivot]

where can I find the best gear for my chars? is game8 viable?

[warped delta]

Go pet the "cattle" in Wuling...

[somber snow]

u dont buy fertilizers,
u craft them, using the sky of the forge

[fallen gorge]

ok, I'll do that 🤠

[somber snow]

berdo muck just decreases the growth time,
but if you craft the fertilizer, in doubles the yield

[fallen gorge]

didn't know you can pet the cattle lel

[fallen gorge]

cheers 🥂

[stark osprey]

Ain't that the recipe you can buy from the guy you save when arriving in Wuling City early on?

[plucky niche]

how many xiranite forges can be built in wuling? 2?

[stark osprey]

2 max

[warped delta]

2 for now, yes. Presumably we will get more when we get Wuling AIC2 research

[somber snow]

go to outskirt barrens,
u can find 13 burdos u can pat there, and get 13 muck

[fallen gorge]

ohh yea free poop saves the farm

[somber snow]

yeah

[warped delta]

Yeah, there are a few of them in the Stockade, then Wuling city has a whole herd of them

[stark osprey]

I knew that thing will be useful for something eventually

I didn't know it was an actual recipe

I thought it was a normal book

No wonder I couldn't find it

[somber snow]

u craft it using the sky of the forge,
if its ur first time, it doesnt show the recipe, which is annoying

u need xiranite liquid and burdo muck, thats all

[stark osprey]

You basically have to stop making batteries and other stuff entirely to make the fertilizer

This will be fun

[somber snow]

temporarily, its not that hard

u just need to move the forge

everything else is left alone

[fallen gorge]

why make em when you can literally get em for free

[somber snow]

you're talking about burdo muck,
im talking about crafting the fertilizer, using burdo muck

[stark osprey]

For me it will be a bit of a pain since I need to make sure I got enough batteries to sustain me while I make that stuff for a while

[warped delta]

I suppose another way to get wuling bills is just pseudo-afk-farm the essence spot while you watch youtube or TV or something, since every enemy you kill awards bills

[somber snow]

burdo muck just decreases growth time, thats useless,
the fertilizer doubles the yield, some of the plants in wuling take a day to fully grow,
so its worth it

[stark osprey]

Random question. Can the sprinklers even be used in Valley 4 to water the plants?

[somber snow]

no

[stark osprey]

Good thing I didn't waste time trying it than

[somber snow]

this is the fertilizer im talking about

[fallen gorge]

ohh

[somber snow]

some guy said ginseng is the best to farm,
cuz of the buff

took my lavacakes atk from 4.5k to 5.5k,
with increased crit chance to 11%

[kindred raptor]

Just realized that batteries are more efficient than originum in producing power.Welp gotta convert my originum factory into a battery producing one

[somber snow]

hm yes

[kindred raptor]

I made a full factory of thermal batteries fuels by originum only

Both in wuling and valley 4

[somber snow]

oh dear

[kindred raptor]

Welp time for operation swift disassembly

[sonic summit]

wanna copy my 2 hc battery in single sub pac? only in originium park though

[kindred raptor]

I like to create my own solutions horrendously

[warped delta]

Can you use that in Umbral?

[somber snow]

Havent tried yet,
But for re crisis, it works when i use b4 entering,
Its not equipable in the consumable slot,
U have to use it from ur inventory

I think umbral only disables consumable slots, so maybe it works

[real marsh]

And we've set up a battery saving system in wulling now

93 per day :)

[worn trellis]

Stupid question, but how do you produce more than 1800 energy in wuling with just one thermal?

Its 1600 per battery then 200 from the pac no?

[viral wharf]

Not possible atm with just one Thermal Bank.

[worn trellis]

So did d.i.g.e do a silly?

[viral wharf]

When we get the next tier of Wuling Batteries, it should be, but 1800 is the cap for 1 Thermal Bank.

[vestal tiger]

It is?

Oh wait

Misread

[worn trellis]

Each thermal only consumes one battery

[viral wharf]

Yeah, if you try Power Cycling it, it'll be some Power below 1800.

[edgy juniper]

With 30 xiranite/min I won't hit my max of 48k before tmr evening will I?

[worn trellis]

I set for dige to make me a battery system that produces 1880 energy but it gave me a 1 thermal config with a decent sized belt pattern before it

[inland perch]

k bruh

[worn trellis]

So I was curious if I was missing smth or it was just wrong

[vestal tiger]

Would dige break if Im offline

[fierce fulcrum]

i dont think you really need to spend 720 originium tho

[inland perch]

i made my wuling batt's super compact
so i made more than i needed

[fierce fulcrum]

like even if you try to mass produce wuling battery your max is like 12/mins

[vestal tiger]

Mmm

[inland perch]

i also have 2 syringe makers and 1 jincao maker so my ferrium all used too

[vestal tiger]

Oh my

[fierce fulcrum]

yea definitely too muh imo

cause my originium ore now running half of yours

[fierce fulcrum]

not worth the deficit tho

[inland perch]

i don wanna stash it tho
so imma haul my originium over

[fierce fulcrum]

even you're running 5 batt/min

[viral wharf]

It probably wants you to use that belt pattern for the 2nd Thermal Bank.

[viral wharf]

They're all full speed?? Can't even sustain 1 full Tier 1 Healing Item rn with our current resources.

[fierce fulcrum]

yea 720 originium usage

[worn trellis]

And have a first themal with just a single belt taking batteries like normal?

[inland perch]

k maybe i overdid it

[edgy juniper]

How are you making 24 per min wtf

[worn trellis]

Aight

[viral wharf]

Lol nothing they're making in Wuling is sustainable

[inland perch]

limited by 2 forges yea

[edgy juniper]

😭😭

I wanna boost my battery production

[fierce fulcrum]

like forge at full speed will always make you running on 200% deficit 💀

[edgy juniper]

Also is it true that different batteries add different amounts of power??

[viral wharf]

You're also being limited by your Ore Production.

[edgy juniper]

I've been using LC valley batteries

[fierce fulcrum]

yes

[edgy juniper]

Oh shit

[fierce fulcrum]

wuling bat is 1600

[viral wharf]

24 LC Wuling Battery/min is 720 Originium Ore/min + 120 Xiranite/min. 💀

[edgy juniper]

WTF 😭

[inland perch]

yea im transferring my ores over from valley to wuling ctrl+click

[edgy juniper]

Oh holy shit nvm then

[fierce fulcrum]

wouldn't your v4 will run deficit tho ?

[viral wharf]

Unless you're not using a lot of your Originium Ore in Valley 4, even that's not sustainable 😭

[dusty locust]

just have to shovel ferrium from valley 4 to wuling kek

[fierce fulcrum]

cause like im even running deficit on v4

1 originium deficit lol

[vestal tiger]

11/min bat

[inland perch]

this my valley stats

[viral wharf]

Yeah if you check the recipes on the Thermal Bank, it'll show you the Power each battery and ore gives.

[fierce fulcrum]

i know 😭, im just wasting those hc battery lmao, it's already running too much surplus

[viral wharf]

Lol even running a deficit in Valley 4 is wild.

[trail vine]

what are people producing in Wuling, as a rule of thumb?

[inland perch]

my greed knows no bounds.

[viral wharf]

Having a stockpile of HC Valley Batteries doesn't hurt. In case you screw up and your power runs out.

[vestal tiger]

Thumbs

Wuling battery and yazhen syringe/jincao drink

Those 2

[fierce fulcrum]

i dont even know what to do with the jincao and wuling battery left over 💀

[viral wharf]

• LC Wuling Battery: 11 Yield/min, 2.06 Usage/min
• Yazhen Syringes: 5.75 Yield/min
• Xiranite Components: 0.5 Yield/min

Completely sustainable with no need to manually transfer anything.

[fierce fulcrum]

jincao is running at 6/min on day timeframe btw

19 bats/mins at the cost of running 200% ores deficit is crazy not gonna lie

[inland perch]

is runnini a deficit bad
it jus means i'm usin everythin i have which means im efficient right

lolol

[fierce fulcrum]

you want your factory to be sustainable too no ? 😭

[viral wharf]

It means you're going to have to redo your factory eventually, or suffer highly reduced production rates.

[fierce fulcrum]

like imagine you'll unable to login for like 3 - 4 days

[inland perch]

ah i didnt power this one after region upgrade

[dusty locust]

I just want the outpost people to be poor

[fierce fulcrum]

my outpost people already poor 😭

they're saving too slow

[viral wharf]

You only have to reach 119,532 Stock Bills/hr to start out selling the Outposts in Valley IV.
Wuling needs even less at 16,770 Stock Bills/hr.

[limpid shale]

Two batteries is 18k per hour already so
Minus 2 battery per 3 minutes

[olive basalt]

how many sprinklers can a fluid pump supply

[inland perch]

i think unlimited i mean it jus waters eco farm

[warped delta]

You're missing some ferrium sources FWIW it should be 1080

[inland perch]

i just added one more from power plateau prob afeter region development

its at 1040 now idk ill look for it later

[versed ermine]

how do you people power your wuling AIC?

[edgy juniper]

How much is the max possible xiranite per min? Since we can only put down two things

[scenic badge]

60

[crimson inlet]

please give us a burdenbeast farm, treat them as livestock for my capitalistic needs

[edgy juniper]

Wtf why am I at 58 😭

[vestal tiger]

Imagine that's what we do next

The next new mechanic
Herding

[spring orchid]

wuling batteries

[vestal tiger]

That's the current one or theoretical?

[edgy juniper]

I just use LC valley batteries

[edgy juniper]

Current

Idk why I'm missing out on those last 2/min

[vestal tiger]

Normalish
Let it run for a few minutes
If it's still 58/min take a screenshot of your stuff and we'll diagnose the issue

[spring orchid]

did you supply enough plants? water?

Also yeah

it goes up from 0 to 60

there's like a delay

[edgy juniper]

It's up to 59 now LMAO yeah I think it'll take a minute or smth

[analog elbow]

1K store credits

[vestal tiger]

Ja

[vestal tiger]

Stonks

[analog elbow]

.stonks

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929296146497639/G6Ih57bacAITmvm.png?ex=691ff17b&is=691e9ffb&hm=91e95e84256e6e195565713e124e50b7d0551f1528c7ee8642b763175e1d9290&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=527&height=395

[willow beacon]

can i hire an accountant

i want to construct an accounting facility please

[warped delta]

You're probably not supplying enough water if you're using a splitter.

[swift token]

finnaly delayed wuling battery supply to second thermal bank by 68 times, was stuck at 1/64 and 1/72, now its perfect considering my power usage for saving energy

[warped delta]

You have an accountant. Where do you think all the money is disappearing to?

[viral wharf]

Seems like it would be a lot more work to figure it out looping it around than to just deposit 67/68 back into the depot.

[swift token]

thats the point, you dont need one output + one input for these extra batteries, that way with its just one output and it works perfectly

[analog elbow]

How long does it stay at 100%

[swift token]

about 1-2s

[analog elbow]

And ur power usage?

[swift token]

2380

[analog elbow]

Good enough. Are you using 2 HC or 1 LC / 1 HC

[swift token]

using wuling batter only

[viral wharf]

Yeah, but doesn't that use a lot of Protocol Capacity

[patent dirge]

Let me know

Is this good

[swift token]

protocol capacity? wdym?

[swift token]

well, its not 100% efficient

if you want i can give you ss of best SC battery farm

[patent dirge]

Yeah i want it

[swift token]

this makes 6 per minute

[viral wharf]

With that set up, you're generating SC Valley Batteries at 33% efficiency, per Packaging Unit.

[patent dirge]

Alrg thxx man

[severe nexus]

i saw something similar a while back https://www.skport.com/article?id=2021889288185100581

[swift token]

no problem

[analog elbow]

Why not 1 HC 1 LC

[swift token]

i aint transferring them manually from Valley

i prefer it fully automated

[marsh comet]

can i ask what is the meta of delaying batteries ?

[vestal tiger]

Depends on your power usage

[swift token]

Bcs in wuling you have either 1,8k power cap or 3,5k, but if you use something between that (for example i'm using 2380 power), you waste a lot of energy if you just do stable 3,5k

[vestal tiger]

The thing will be different each time

[swift token]

That makes you use less batteries which result in earning a bit more stock bills

[marsh comet]

ahhh got it

what i do is to just shutdown one or two thermal banks insted if i have a huge power gap

[swift token]

But in valley i suppose?

[pastel plume]

we are so back to poverty levels

-# after buying the weekly 40 Artificing Catalysts

[raw jacinth]

Ive been in Wuling for a couple of hours now anyone have a small blueprint i can use that will help me?

https://giphy.com/gifs/theoffice-the-office-tv-heavy-competition-wZXOmCIaY6jdFQQbjl

[white kindle]

rate the AIC

[atomic fiber]

7/10

[vestal tiger]

Lack of symmetry, organised but unused space
6/10

[vestal tiger]

Define small

[raw jacinth]

Nah its ok i think ive got a set now i couldnt figue out how to get more power to the main base

[sick whale]

8/10

looks cool but yea a lot of open space

[white kindle]

No need for it ngl

[sick whale]

i mean if you dont then its fine

in valley 4 i used ALL of the space

[white kindle]

I compacted everything so efficiently that I can’t use the room

[sick whale]

for just 18 purple battery, 18 buck A, and 12 buck c

[white kindle]

Trust me keep it that way too me 4 days to optimize it

[white kindle]

I think I’m 20 buck A 300 green battery and 30 purple battery

[sick whale]

if im bored then ima rebuild it

[raw jacinth]

Thank you tho im new to this game and factory stuff isnt something im used to LOL

[white kindle]

If you do everything will break until you get it perfect

[sick whale]

30 purple and 20 buck a is kinda impossible?

you dont have even close to enough ores

[white kindle]

I’ll get an exact number all ik is that I’m pushing my resources to the max

[sick whale]

if to the max, then yea its possible

but in like 4 or 9 hours, your factory is stalled

[white kindle]

Nuh uh

[sick whale]

trust, we got no ores

LMAO

[white kindle]

My factory maxes at 24k stacks

[sick whale]

i need more drills

[sick whale]

....

im..

im at max

[white kindle]

My wuling needs more ores

[sick whale]

like 40k?

[white kindle]

How….

[sick whale]

upgrade depot?

[white kindle]

Yep

Maxed

I might be thinking wuling

Lemme check

[sick whale]

wulling is 28k or 24k but yea its 20 ish

[white kindle]

Ok so my numbers were off

6 purple 6 buck a and 30 green battery

Much worse than I thought

And my stacks max at 72k

[sick whale]

30 green?

for what

[white kindle]

Power and money

[sick whale]

you can produce purple

[versed ermine]

ahhhhhhhhhh, i want to place mirrored forges of the sky

[sick whale]

hell nah

make more purple

[white kindle]

Lemme show u something rq

[sick whale]

purple uses like 3/min MAX while you can make up to 4k power with it

[white kindle]

how am I suppose to power this with purple

[sick whale]

decrease the number

and use the protable storage thing

i forgot the name

if you want

i can give you my codes

for purple

[white kindle]

I got those

[sick whale]

thats why change to purple

[white kindle]

I got a good factory

[sick whale]

you only need 3 banks

[white kindle]

fine

[sick whale]

trust

no joke purple is a life saver

and stress relief

[viral wharf]

?

[somber snow]

if you want to talk about efficiency,
HC batteries are the most efficient,
sell more, more energy
no reason to do LC or SC,
unless u dont have space for it

[sick whale]

trueeee

[crimson inlet]

imagine rather than implementing a delay gate, they made the thermal banks stop generating power at max power reserve and then automatically generates power again at a adjustable percentage of reserve

[sick whale]

but then again, because i make uses of all my things

i use about 5 or 6 banks or power with purple
and got a bit of it left (because i got turrets to clear essence)

[crimson inlet]

(so if a bat gets consumed but max reserve is set, it will stop consuming it until a n% of reserve is detected)

[somber snow]

man, that would make DIGE obsolete

i think

[sick whale]

tbf the battery usage i could care less

someone actually make the battery thing though @crimson inlet

if i find it you want the code?

[viral wharf]

It's kinda funny they tell you you're being inefficient on power when you generate too much, but then they yell at you whenever you drop below 100%

[crimson inlet]

having a delay gate would also make dige be redundant to calculating time for each branch to be set

[crimson inlet]

I already have a Dige set-up that produces an average of 2100±

[sick whale]

lucky i use the power almost to the max cause im crazy

so valley 4 im just rich

i dont need to go to my factory anymore (because each day i have a surplus of purple stuff to sell even after the outpost is broke)

[somber snow]

we prefer to use our batteries when we start using our reserves,
thats when we can make full use of our batteries,
at the same time, use less and save more

[crimson inlet]

but might be above in producing power since I consume 1.98k power than 2k

[sick whale]

i think my purple stuff is at max capacity now

[somber snow]

rate this piece of shit

[sick whale]

not far different with @white kindle LMAO

[somber snow]

i saw,
he uses too much protocol stashes

[sick whale]

how come people dont use the whole space
why do i feel like mine is using so much space

[somber snow]

some of the belts were too long as well

idk

wat do u have in ur main AIC

[white kindle]

im very confused right now

[tiny wind]

How do i view my yield fast

[white kindle]

I doubled all production lines for purple batteries but I only get 2 more an hour

[somber snow]

open menu, bottom of the screen, press AIC report

[sick whale]

how? thats just not possible

you uses how many and make how many?

[white kindle]

I was making 6 using none

now im using none and making 8

[lusty violet]

u got enough sandleaf?

[tiny wind]

Probably that

[sick whale]

thats 2/min

not anhour

:v

and you cant double production

if you got no sandleaf

[somber snow]

show ur AIC report, then i'll analyse and diagnose

[tiny wind]

On a site note do i have to match my sand leaf/buck usage?

[white kindle]

I got sandleaf

[somber snow]

wdym by this

[white kindle]

actually it seems I dont have enough ferrium

[sick whale]

better to have more sandleaf (especially if you use sandleaf with an output not with a planter)

example like my battery uses output, so i need more planter later

[sick whale]

@white kindle give him

[thick plume]

Anyone got tips for jumpstarting Wuling? New to Wuling and just got some miners up on the nodes near the city, got a basic production line setup but i have like no regional bills

Is there somewhere to sell

[white kindle]

alr

[tiny wind]

Finish story get the wireless relay pylon explore

[sick whale]

let meh seee

[somber snow]

bring HC batteries from valley4 for power,
or just burn originium in thermal banks,
then start making wuling batteries

[viscid plover]

don't we all

[thick plume]

I already got the wireless lol

[thick plume]

Im making syringes and batteries rn

[tiny wind]

Do batteries first

[thick plume]

I got a stockpile already tho

[sick whale]

progress storym there is like a fast mission each 2 days that gives you 200k bills

make purple battery and sell those, you can sell the syringe i guess but thats shit

[somber snow]

do you have the outpost yet?

[thick plume]

Ah i see

[thick plume]

No

[sick whale]

syringe sucks ass

[white kindle]

nvm I fixed it

[thick plume]

Guess i need to progress then

[white kindle]

I had a belt wrong

[sick whale]

battery you uses 3 MAX / min

[sick whale]

LMAO

[white kindle]

but now im using too much ferrium

[somber snow]

idk what u mean by this,
its decent as a consumable,
and gives decent stockbills when sold

[white kindle]

I make 420 ferrium and use 480 ferrium

[hollow drum]

V4 goes up to 1080 ferrium in late stage development

youre fine

[lusty violet]

time to slap down more miners

[viscid plover]

back to 1-7

[white kindle]

HOW

[hollow drum]

more mines + RDM level

[white kindle]

I am at late stage I only get 420

[somber snow]

increase RDl,
higher mine purity,
get all rigs down,

[hollow drum]

where are you in the story

[sick whale]

i dont use consumable, i use buck A :v i got like way too many to spare anyway

and i got M3 ardelia (might soon to be M5)
and they sucks ass to sell
cause i can only make 6/min yet the price is cheap

[white kindle]

RDL maxed

[white kindle]

finished

[thick plume]

Ferrium really holding back my current production ngl, may turn off the syringes for now (but i got like 20k batteries in valley 4 i can grab as needed)

[white kindle]

I gotta go get the mines that are miles out

[hollow drum]

is it at least level 10?

[viscid plover]

time to explore and find all the mining nodes

[white kindle]

mine is 12

[tiny wind]

Ok so do i need to build more planters(guess i also need to remove some ferrium

[sick whale]

use pruple battery from valley 4 first

your way to poor to use wulling ones

[white kindle]

yeah I gotta get the ones in the middle of nowhere

[hollow drum]

how tf did you get max rdm level with only 420 ferrium output

[somber snow]

they heal more than buck A,
and its literally early game for wuling,
they sell more then Buck Cs and Citrome Cs,
and Buck A is a consumable

[thick plume]

Alr

[white kindle]

I dont have all the ora depo's that are in the middle of nowhere

[thick plume]

Ill move as many as i can to my depot in wuling

[sick whale]

they do? damn i didnt even check

but yea i aint using that shit
i cant feel it being sold so might as well use it ALL to sell

[hollow drum]

you need to get more ferrium mines / RDM level and add buckflower planters

[sick whale]

do it on the ship btw

so you dont need to tp

[hollow drum]

Buck A is worse than Jincao and Syringe C

[tiny wind]

Level 11?

[thick plume]

I... didnt think of that

Ive been tping to valley 4 every time

[lusty violet]

and more sandleaf

[tiny wind]

Can i build those on v4?

[hollow drum]

no

[viscid plover]

no

[sick whale]

dont worry, me to :v until my dumbass open storage in ship

[somber snow]

if anything, u dont even need to do that

just use originium,
then use 1 wuling bat to power ur entire factory

[sick whale]

ah we are different

[somber snow]

making xiranite components for the first week, then u nvr have to make anymore for at least 2 weeks

[sick whale]

i transfer like 10 or 8k battery each 2 days