aic-factory

[craggy whale]

oh 7 days

its less than 200hrs

[spring orchid]

7 days

[somber snow]

still, a backup gen like that could still help

[unreal laurel]

once the nxt patch is out,i can expand my aic without worry cause the backup gen will just run alongside my regular gen

[nova osprey]

yeah any player offline for >7 days will have their factory shut down temporarily until they log back on

[craggy whale]

the reason why u have backup generator if u use some kind of system like the PWM that has a one of few hours loop will be at outage

and it will be back in few minutes

[viral wharf]

I think having auto expanding power gen would be more helpful for that case.

[unreal laurel]

yeah but i hate copying

even the pwm or dige stuff i figured out myself

[viral wharf]

Yeah I made my own Power Cycling system

[unreal laurel]

copying a concept or design is no fun if you dont understand it

[viral wharf]

It's pretty easy to increase/decrease as needed.

[craggy whale]

i mean mines can take up to 5.4-5.5k roughly count (havent test it) and it runs till u reach 10% and went back too 100%

[unreal laurel]

hmmm

i probably should update my backup gen

[craggy whale]

bcs i use 1 extra bank that act as charger every 128s

[viral wharf]

Made a spreadsheet that calculates it for me, within 5 splits.

[unreal laurel]

nvm

[unreal laurel]

i finally remembered why i needed a backup gen

[proud kelp]

can someone explain why this doesnt work

[craggy whale]

wym doesnt work?

[unreal laurel]

cause youre supposed to do smth with the split path?

[viral wharf]

That's a more risky set up as you'll run out of power in like 1-2 cycles if you need to expand.

[proud kelp]

flow rate should be *1/2^4 but the current flow rate is *1/2

[craggy whale]

try this

[craggy whale]

its easy to configuring

[unreal laurel]

its just clogging itself and make the split paths straight

[craggy whale]

this system can have various output in each system

and up to various timer if it has same output

[proud kelp]

yeah this is why

[unreal laurel]

you dont wanna hear the actual reason im running a backup gen?

[craggy whale]

if u use splitter in converge as long theres item source except from splitter other source will take the priority than the splitter

[craggy whale]

what?

[unreal laurel]

cause my wuling runs on hc i manually transferred

[craggy whale]

bcs the reason why u call "Backup" is when needed when theres something failed

[craggy whale]

then why tf need backup

[unreal laurel]

the backup gen is a failsafe for when i forget to refill

[somber snow]

but, dont u need to refill ur backup gen too?

[craggy whale]

just do this and do one of em is longer splitter

[unreal laurel]

no,cause it only runs if i already fucked up

[craggy whale]

done

wuling doesnt need complex calculation since u only need average 2 banks max 3

[unreal laurel]

that literally runs back into the same issue of forgetting to refill the depot

[craggy whale]

yea then ur backup gen wont work if u always forgot to refill

....

[unreal laurel]

the backup gen doesnt need refills

[craggy whale]

????

[unreal laurel]

the refills are for the depot

[craggy whale]

idk man

[unreal laurel]

this is the one im refilling

[craggy whale]

idk what ur logic is

[unreal laurel]

this is an isolated system with an extra day of time

[jovial breach]

💀

What tf are those thermal banks

[unreal laurel]

it aint that complicated....

[craggy whale]

u need to refill bcs u use it from other source

[unreal laurel]

backup generator

[glad needle]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sped-up-silly-goober-sea-gif-1807503861489774979

[unreal laurel]

no i dont,its an isolated system

the storages will remain full as long as i never kill my power

[jovial breach]

I never get the idea of back up power, not like your base occasionally get nuked or something

[frigid citrus]

then...if not crossing gear...how to read set bonus for their char...is they stated in the or skill or some sort of description?

[craggy whale]

tbh i agree

[proud kelp]

lol

[unreal laurel]

my wuling runs on manually transfered batteries

[nova osprey]

[unreal laurel]

i need a failsafe for when i forget to refill

[proud kelp]

me too

[craggy whale]

nah bro i just dk what to answer of this guy

he said he runs the wuling from hc from v4

[nova osprey]

what's the original question lol

[fallen badge]

so much effort

[somber snow]

if u forget to refill,
u use ur HC bats from ur backup gen,
then ud have to refill ur backup too,
or am i understanding wrong?

[unreal laurel]

do you only restock your toilet paper when u run out or do u keep some spares

[jovial breach]

People build factories so they work less, this guy build factories so he have more works to do

[craggy whale]

feedback of his backup gen

[somber snow]

oh hey, camel

[unreal laurel]

the effort is worth it,i can sell more xiranite batteries this way

[craggy whale]

but u clearly said "my wuling runs on manually transfered batteries" so that does mean that u use it really often

[unreal laurel]

900/day to be exact

[quick hornet]

wuling already produces slightly more than needed tho

[somber snow]

but, i thought wuling couldnt keep up with our products,
even if we're using wuling bats to power our facility

[jovial breach]

I agree you get more income, but is it worth the trouble?

[nova osprey]

I think what Khangsaw said is the most appropriate thing here. You're not gonna find that many people who think it's a good idea because a lot make factory plans that don't need management

so like, if you think it's good by you then it's good by you

[unreal laurel]

until i give up,yes

[craggy whale]

even me who use 2 per min wuling still capping the production even i cut it to 6/min

[somber snow]

this channel isnt about making the most efficient factory,
its quite literally a place for deranged ppl making odd contraptions for fun

[viral wharf]

Yeah I made my factories completely self-sufficient. My Wuling factory for example:

• LC Wuling Battery: 11 Yield/min, 2.06 Usage/min
• Yazhen Syringes: 5.75 Yield/min
• Xiranite Components: 0.5 Yield/min

Going to switch my Xiranite Components to 0.33 Yield/min once I reach 4.75K as that'll match the 95 Catalysts I still have left at 99% discount. This also sells out the Outpost and keeps up with the ~0.3 Components/min to do 60 Artifices per week.

[proud kelp]

why does it work

[unreal laurel]

why doesnt it work

[craggy whale]

bcs the converge will ignore the splitter source when u have item from other source other than splitter

since splitter has least priority for converger as the item it receives

[nova lodge]

putting a low level snowshine does wonders for this agony stage, no need to deal with dumbarse charging angeloi 80% of the time.

[proud kelp]

where do you get this kind of info

i kinda need it

[jovial breach]

Ok so running on valley battery means you're saving 1.5/min wuling battery usage, which is 90 per hour, slightly over 2k battery a day, i forgor how much battery is sold for but that's the net possitive income

[somber snow]

i gave up and used chen

[craggy whale]

some unlisted video in ytub @severe nexus shared it before

[unreal laurel]

like 25?

[nova lodge]

works too, though still hard to stop them while they charges around.

[unreal laurel]

so thats a 50k net?

[somber snow]

not rly, it was quite ez,
took me 2 tries though,
my team was chen, endmin, akekuri, ardelia

[unreal laurel]

decent imo

[craggy whale]

@proud kelp

[unreal laurel]

wheres perly

[craggy whale]

u can see in that video

the reason why i called it gate system

[nova lodge]

mine happens to be chen, endmin, pog, snowshine.
all 5* weapons, but hey if it works, it works :3.

the clear it all it matters.

[craggy whale]

bcs it gatekeeping the behind item to get forward

[somber snow]

shes not built, so i had to bench her,
im building phys, heat and ice for now,
once im done, ill do elec

[arctic sluice]

guys, how do i arrange my belt so that more batteries go in my 2nd thermal bank, the one closer to the protocol stash. the one next to the packaging unit constantly builds up batteries in its reserves faster than it uses them. the 2nd one just keeps using them more than batteries enter it

[unreal laurel]

mines not built and i did nothing

[craggy whale]

and it will be easier to configuring the output how many item u do need to let out

[unreal laurel]

u cant

[arctic sluice]

what do you mean i cant

[unreal laurel]

u could but nahhh

[craggy whale]

i mean what u do now is basically the first bank will get every 20 second, the second bank is 40second

[somber snow]

i was gonna use pog, but i get sp ezr with akekuri for now,

[nova lodge]

unless you decide to dable in black AIC magic with splitters and convergers....no
you can't force more stuff into the 2nd thermal banks.

[silent urchin]

Have two belts from your Packaging unit, one leads straight to depot, one splits to two banks

[unreal laurel]

have the splitters together on top

[frigid citrus]

is this whole set tide surge thing...since i read cannibalism girl skills..she apply cyro...so i assuming she use this one??

[arctic sluice]

hm.. ill try that then

[jovial breach]

True it's not something too little to ignore, especially when you just got to wuling, but now when you already can buy everything it not that worth anymore...

[arctic sluice]

im all down to dabbling in aic black magic dawg. i love my factory

[silent urchin]

That way, it's 50/50 depot, then 50/50 between banks

[unreal laurel]

bottom splitter connected to top,top spliter uses bridge to connect to bottom

[arctic sluice]

aight. lemme see how that goes

[proud kelp]

why doesnt it work now

[unreal laurel]

just sent the solution,gl

[nova lodge]

[unreal laurel]

i gtg

[craggy whale]

the reason why i dont connect thermal bank directly from the packaging

[silent urchin]

No, like 50depot/25each bank

[craggy whale]

try to remove the converger and splitter

or converger only

it sometimes just do random like splitter

[arctic sluice]

so this should make it better?

[craggy whale]

[craggy whale]

i mean thats mean u will receive battery every 40 sec

thats true

[silent urchin]

The upper splitter is irrelevant, just connect it straight to the upper bank

[arctic sluice]

ah yea true

[craggy whale]

it just same as u building up ur batter tbh

[arctic sluice]

its just that i was getting the notification that my 2nd thermal bank is empty and using reserves but gettinga batterly after like 15 seconds

[viral wharf]

It looks like you're splitting your Xiranite input by 1/2, so you're producing LC Wuling Batteries at 3/min. A Thermal Bank needs at least 1.5/min to be constantly active.

• 1st Thermal Bank (Usage): 3/min × 1/2 = 1.5/min
• 2nd Thermal Bank (Usage): 3/min × 1/2 × 1/2 = 0.75/min < 1.5/min
• Protocol Stash (Yield): 3/min × 1/2 × 1/2 = 0.75/min

[craggy whale]

ofc

bcs it wont be it same time they turn on and off

its like every 20 second differents they turn on

[digital oasis]

Which one looks better?

[craggy whale]

so when the other is already at timer 20second the other just barely getting the batrtery

[arctic sluice]

i see. i mean im splitting it because on the right side, its purely for battery creation for the purpose to sell them

[craggy whale]

whats hard to just store it to ur stash and use 1 depot for battery tho

[arctic sluice]

the left side is to generate power

[craggy whale]

just use 1 depot xd

easier to count then using 10sec/battery belt

[silent urchin]

Valley Pass, 2x HC Battery, yes, I know both aren't 100% efficient, but I spent too much to care at this point

[viral wharf]

3 LC Wuling Battery/min is the perfect amount to fully charge 2 Thermal Banks, the Protocol Stash shouldn't necessary there.

[nova lodge]

well.....that was....** # easy **

[paper magnet]

clearly this was a necessary scene

[proud kelp]

still doesnt work

[viral wharf]

America/Europe server being 13 hours behind for everything sucks.

[craggy whale]

@atomic fiber is ur splitter converger work

[arctic sluice]

in my sub pac i was using a setup that feeds xiranite to make xiranite components

thats why it was split to feed xiranite into storage

[nova osprey]

ikr

[proud kelp]

yes
the triangle formation works but this one doesnt

[nova lodge]

meanwhile....my AIC brute forced PWM working fine atm :v.

[arctic sluice]

if i were to not route xiranite into storage, id have an excess amount of batteries that i could potentially sell

[craggy whale]

just use both 48sec

ur fine

[arctic sluice]

hm

i guess ill get rid of the stash

[craggy whale]

this is the most easy

[arctic sluice]

but id have permanent 50 batteries :(

[craggy whale]

for wuling u run battery every 48s basically

not that efficient

[arctic sluice]

i might copy that ngl

i wanna see how it works

[craggy whale]

can run up to 2.8-3k power roughly ig

[atomic fiber]

that mine?

[craggy whale]

if u will run above that u need 1 more bank that probably every 256 sec to charge

[craggy whale]

no im asking if its still work

my power plan still works

but whjen im try to make blueprint of the system it doesnt work LOL

and somebody try to use the tech and doesnt work too smh

im trying to search for whats the cause

but idk

[atomic fiber]

like this one?

yeah it still work

[heavy sedge]

Anyone got a Hc battery and A capsule blueprint

[atomic fiber]

been using it like for 2 weeks

[craggy whale]

no the gate system

splitter>converger priority

[atomic fiber]

oh... i don't run that one offline for a long time

[craggy whale]

bruh

[atomic fiber]

[strong walrus]

What do I do with that one extra sand belt from my forge of the skie?

[proud kelp]

does the placement order affect the priority? @craggy whale

[craggy whale]

no

afaik theres no priority between placement order in converger

[arctic sluice]

is this connected to a packaging unit with 3 grinding units and 1 forge?

for optimal battery creation?

or can i do 1 forge and 2 grinding units

[viral wharf]

You can either do nothing with it and let the Sandleaf's clog, which'll give you a surplus of Sandleaf. Or you can store into the Depot to get a surplus of Sandleaf Powder.

It's more ideal to have a surplus of Sandleaf over the powder though, since you can always turn that into 3 Sandleaf Powder.

👀 quick

[craggy whale]

no

definitely not

it runs on normal speed

30/min

[glossy sandal]

yow anyone got a map for peak relay placement for wuling?

[craggy whale]

so basically additional depot

or u mean the wuling battery packaging itself?

[arctic sluice]

yes

[strong walrus]

okay, thanks

[arctic sluice]

i got 3 grinding units feeding 3 belts into the packaging unit

is that optimal

or do i need only 2 grinding units

[craggy whale]

u need 3 grind and 1 depot xiranite or 1 forge

i forgot that powder is coming from grinding lol

[arctic sluice]

this is a very bad pic but

yeah 3 grinding units into a packaging unit

[craggy whale]

@proud kelp im not sure why it doesnt work in ur side

[ionic forge]

I'm glad i made sure all outpust can run by it self, seeing some posts here. Love the screenshots and the builds you guys make. Builds being 2d brings a fun challenge

[craggy whale]

i did found something tho @atomic fiber @severe nexus

but i dont understand what happened

[arctic sluice]

hm. ill prob move my thermal banks to the right side, where i got 3 grind and 1 forge, and left is just for battery creation for money

sigh

[craggy whale]

@atomic fiber can u elaborate to me why that happened when i add another belt and not

[proud kelp]

omg new discovery

[craggy whale]

what makes it like that tho

kinda questioning me now

[proud kelp]

so belt placement actually do affect converger priority

in some ways

[ionic forge]

Converger slows down some stuff if i use it

[arctic sluice]

is this better?

[ionic forge]

I prefer to use stash as buffer

[proud kelp]

@craggy whale can I have those unlisted videos pls pls?

[arctic sluice]

what do you mean?

[craggy whale]

just search from phantom101

idk the link

phantom101 has:video

search it man

[atomic fiber]

that is a well known bug that we use that last time. it converger priority

[ionic forge]

Stash can amek sure you always produce, and dont lose, pump to another and machine.

[craggy whale]

but look at this i make it the priority oppsite

[arctic sluice]

bruh

on discord

not youtube

LOL

[atomic fiber]

no, the priority is always the one without splitter

[nova lodge]

** this video has 0 dislikes **

[proud kelp]

found the video

[craggy whale]

look man

idk for what reason it is

but its funny i make splitter has the most priority than other sht

[atomic fiber]

it's bug abuse... so yeah kinda buggy

[craggy whale]

so smh when the splitter connect to the stash

splitter become the most prior?

[atomic fiber]

you want to try to reset the whole setup

[jovial breach]

Now send hg email and ask for a 10 pulls

[atomic fiber]

no.
converger prio the other belt that don't have splitter near them

[proud kelp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-yugioh-yu-gi-oh-PbngEqUYjHTzpiRNHb

[craggy whale]

dont u look at the video

[viral wharf]

I hope we get the next section of the AIC Tech Tree in 1.1.

[craggy whale]

that the one without splitter is the one stop

[atomic fiber]

yes, as I said it buggy. try reset the whole setup. and try again

[craggy whale]

i did

[atomic fiber]

dunno then

[craggy whale]

wait it works copy the setup

and reinsert the converge

[atomic fiber]

try add 1 belt space there

[calm crow]

_>)

[craggy whale]

try that @proud kelp

[atomic fiber]

yeah it is buggy

since this is bug abuse

[craggy whale]

its feature

[atomic fiber]

[proud kelp]

i mean changing the placement order of the belt and converger changes the priority of said converger

[craggy whale]

now

[heavy sedge]

Someone send a power plant blueprint plss for asia

[craggy whale]

try to copy the whole setup

[proud kelp]

the setup in your video?>

[craggy whale]

yours

copy paste ur whole setup

[proud kelp]

oh ok

[craggy whale]

put the item

in the stash

and if the splitter still going through

remove the converger that has splitter behind it

[analog elbow]

Power plant??

[craggy whale]

and put converger again

[analog elbow]

[ancient zinc]

[arctic sluice]

wait huh, does this even work? the batteries are going to the stashes more than going into the thermal banks leading to me losing complete power

[craggy whale]

im proud that it cant be dechipered by anybody

[craggy whale]

youre not supposed to put it in packaging

[arctic sluice]

what

then where

[craggy whale]

now it become 480s for every battery

[craggy whale]

depot

bus

[arctic sluice]

so this packaging unit will just.... make batteries that go straight into a stash?

[craggy whale]

yes sir

[arctic sluice]

hmmm...

[analog elbow]

Do you even know what that is for

[craggy whale]

counting it 10s delay is hard to do

[analog elbow]

[proud kelp]

seems like the belt goes through first now

[arctic sluice]

i aint gonna lie, no. im just copying from people here lmao

[spring orchid]

Wuling or valley IV

[craggy whale]

yeah thats what u need

so the loop just keep going as long theres item in belt

[proud kelp]

https://giphy.com/gifs/wectie-fact-check-status-wectiee-YVT4w8N5O7qSiftMNq

[craggy whale]

so u dont giving more out item basically

[analog elbow]

Basically Just edging your power kinda like this

[craggy whale]

its like more efficient than using stash

basically

[analog elbow]

But it depends on your power usage anyway

[craggy whale]

[spring orchid]

Also blueprintd is at #1461542035617091681 channel

[craggy whale]

what for blueprint

[arctic sluice]

LMAO WHAT THE HELL

[spring orchid]

@craggy whale guy asking for asia bp

[arctic sluice]

so you just edge the thermal bank and gaslight it into thinking its getting power

[arctic sluice]

im at 2.31k power usage rn

[craggy whale]

#aic-factory message

[proud kelp]

basically decrease the source output and keep the sink input the same

[analog elbow]

Yeah you can say it lets your factory out of power for a certain amount of time before feeding another battery

[proud kelp]

kinda genius

[craggy whale]

yep

[craggy whale]

bp of what

blueprint of waht sir

?

[spring orchid]

Powerplant idk

[craggy whale]

which power plant

[analog elbow]

[craggy whale]

13% man

went up to 100%

cool right

[analog elbow]

Cool but ain't spending my brain power to go that far

[ancient zinc]

Every ones do PWD until belts behave differently when u offline

[craggy whale]

[ancient zinc]

[craggy whale]

mine doing same

been tested for 5 hrs now

[ancient zinc]

I mean if devs secretly do something

[arctic sluice]

so... i guess this is connected to a depo. while the right side with 3 grinding units makes the batteries for power. and the left side for me makes xiranite and batteries to sell?

[ancient zinc]

[arctic sluice]

welp

[craggy whale]

ye

[analog elbow]

What's ur power usage again

[craggy whale]

it just constantly using battery every 48s

[arctic sluice]

though wont this thermal bank setup destroy my reserves of batteries in storage?

[craggy whale]

its fine up to 2.8k roughly tbh

[arctic sluice]

2.31k/3.4k atm

[analog elbow]

It will go back up to full.

That's the point of using that thing

[arctic sluice]

oh so, the thermal bank usage is lower than my battery yield

[craggy whale]

the only way to save battery is basically use reserve power bcs theres a short time all bank will be sleep

bcs ur aic reserver 100k power

[arctic sluice]

i see

[craggy whale]

so it will use the reserve when ur usage power above the cap power that u have

and

since u always have extra power

[analog elbow]

Also i see you apply the Gate system in this

[craggy whale]

between ur usage and cap

u use that gap to recharge

[craggy whale]

ye

it wont drop to 0%

sine it could charge up to 100%

[proud kelp]

unrelated but where do I find ponds that can be drained? all the water sources I found are unlimited in water

[arctic sluice]

does that thermal bank setup do that?

[craggy whale]

u mean that u use rn?

[analog elbow]

And no BP to share with me?

[craggy whale]

ye but only short 8s

[arctic sluice]

mhm

ah

thats fine by me ig

[craggy whale]

EFO01602I6333I79UO83e tbh still in test

[analog elbow]

Well if it broke my sorry ass will force myself to try and fix it anyway

[craggy whale]

since my main power is 4k

on v-4

since i turn off few machine or basically purged em

i mean its easy to configurate how many output u want

[analog elbow]

I think i don't really care about power usage in V4 so i just connect all turrets to my main grid

[spring orchid]

@craggy whale how does ur gate system works

[analog elbow]

Mf jumps from around 4k to 5.6K

[craggy whale]

#aic-factory message like this

prevent battery going outside

by using splitter converger priority

[nova osprey]

[analog elbow]

He's basically enslaving the Batteries to go back and forth

[nova osprey]

i find it cheaper and less time consuming just to use batteries

like 50 batteries last a super long time

[analog elbow]

Yeah i do that in wuling

[nova osprey]

ayee

[craggy whale]

im gatekeeping the battery to go outside

so they just play inside

[analog elbow]

V4 not so much

[analog elbow]

That's enslaving

[craggy whale]

[analog elbow]

Let my batteries go

[spring orchid]

What does this do

[craggy whale]

really hard to explain in word

if i could vc i can explain it tbh lol

[spring orchid]

I'm too eepy

To like

Understand it without being told

[paper magnet]

sadge

[digital oasis]

i didn't even think of the fact that it still heals you

[spring orchid]

What's "if" then @craggy whale

When the gate opens or not

[craggy whale]

#aic-factory message this is the showcase video.

• Sandleaf powder == river
• Sandleaf seed == guard of the door
• Sandleaf == timer trigger

so what it does is basically where the river still flowing the seed wont open the door, but when theres a trash coming on the river (sandleaf) theres a filter to get the trash out first so it creates gap between river and the trash. thats when the door will open the battery so the battery can came out

[digital oasis]

it heals you yet you can still drown in it

[ionic forge]

Im trying to figure out how power works. It's shared or per location ?

[spring orchid]

Ohhh

[analog elbow]

Yes

Shared within the entire region

[young jasper]

chat I made an insane new blueprint thoughts? EFO019A618OEaoeE5uI2

[craggy whale]

ss man

[analog elbow]

In short Waiting in Line system

[craggy whale]

in short gatekeeping system

[young jasper]

nah put the code in trust me 🔥

[analog elbow]

Oh yeah you enslaved the sandleaf too

Deserved tho

[spring orchid]

When does the gate open again

[craggy whale]

equal the timer u setup

[analog elbow]

He literally mentions it

[spring orchid]

Ohh

So similar to pwm

[analog elbow]

You can say PWM is the common version

This is the Legendary one

[spring orchid]

I need to comprehend more to understand

[heavy sedge]

Valley

[craggy whale]

yeah u can use pwm to use as a timer tbh

but the problem is to know when which timer will going to which system

[spring orchid]

My brain just thinks dividing

By base 2 or 3

Is easjer

[craggy whale]

i mean that blueprint is compacted

[spring orchid]

Using splitters

[craggy whale]

should i make the easier to read?

[spring orchid]

Maybe dunno

[analog elbow]

Don't blame yourself. ZRok melts his brain from time to time making that

[craggy whale]

nah it doesnt cost much time since phantom opens the way for me

[spring orchid]

I'll check later when I wake up, too much brain juice when I need to work tomofofow

[craggy whale]

with unknown information

[craggy whale]

ill make smthng that easier to read between system and timer tbh

[analog elbow]

Welp it definitely did when you haven't got enlighten

[spring orchid]

Would make comprehending it easier deffo

[craggy whale]

wait

oh ye

nvm

[arctic sluice]

is there a way to turn off the notif that my power consumption has exceeded power generation lol

[analog elbow]

Uhh just turn off notifications

[craggy whale]

welcome

[analog elbow]

[arctic sluice]

:)

pain

[craggy whale]

"Theres is no sufficient power"

[arctic sluice]

its all part of making money ig

LOL

[craggy whale]

the cons of having power efficiency

[nova osprey]

[arctic sluice]

lowkey i might just connect 1 depo to two thermal banks and have them cap and call it a day

that notif annoys me so much LMFAO

[analog elbow]

I never received any notifications

[arctic sluice]

wait

can i technically just

[analog elbow]

Because i need to manually turn it on

[arctic sluice]

use the current setup

and slap 50 batteries in it

[analog elbow]

Might as well not use it

[arctic sluice]

well not 50 lmfao

[analog elbow]

Gotta fix my Battery usage in V4 ig

[arctic sluice]

cus since i have a 8 sec downtime, that means that i wont be using the batteries in the thermal bank reserves

hm

meh

[craggy whale]

this is easier to read ig

@spring orchid

[spring orchid]

This doesn't consume energy right?

What does it exactly do

[craggy whale]

no

[craggy whale]

which one

[spring orchid]

The whole thing

Timer I know adjusts the rate of item flow

[craggy whale]

u know the flow is always 30item/min

<@&956153874383781928>

thx

the reason why the system always can gatekeep

is due of behaviour convergence and splitter

idk for what reason that converger refuse the item source from splitter

when theres other item from other sources than splitter

so in this case of the image is the belt

and it runs 30item/sec remember right

so we use of that behaviour as a gatekeeper

bcs the gatekeepr stay still in the splitter

and prevent the item behind it to entry to the splitter

[spring orchid]

Right

[craggy whale]

so when is the gatekeeper going into the flow?

is when the timer send something to the flow

[spring orchid]

Oh

Ohhhh

[craggy whale]

so basically disrupt one item

[spring orchid]

I isee

Timed gate

Basically

[craggy whale]

yes

[spring orchid]

It's a timed gate

[craggy whale]

thats why i call it gate

but @severe nexus still refused to use word gate >:(

[spring orchid]

This is basically advanced pwm

Actually has a small purpose

Mostly just for timer

[craggy whale]

pwm has a purpose in here too

yeah for the timer

thats why i said right

since pwm can only send 1 item

it can act as timer

but u need 2 gate keepr

in this case

[spring orchid]

That's the timer loop yes

Hmmm

Why do u need two gatekeeprf

[craggy whale]

so you can have output to atleast 1 item

[grand wagon]

am i right in thinking after the quest line smoking embers ill unlock the science aic?

[spring orchid]

Oh

So it won't perma clog

[craggy whale]

the reason why 2 is because to loop the gatekeeper back it needs atleast 3 blocks

or 4

i think 3

so that mean u will have either 3 items or 4 item going out

[spring orchid]

Pwm itself is a timer

[craggy whale]

yes

[spring orchid]

What does this has in advantage

Vs regular pwm

[craggy whale]

regular pwm has only 1 output

[nova osprey]

more like pwm relies on timers

[craggy whale]

this can adjust to any output desires

[spring orchid]

Right

[craggy whale]

but u can only have 1 system with same output

[spring orchid]

I'll thinkit later when I am awake

V interestimg tho

[craggy whale]

should i put it in #1461542035617091681 ?

[ancient charm]

how does one get to the crate down here?

[nova lodge]

go south, enter the cave then explore the highground north area.

i think it might need a bomb as well.

[ancient charm]

how do you climb that huge rock there tho>

[green moon]

congrats to this guy👍

[marble yarrow]

theres a quest you need to do to unlock access to it

[ancient charm]

which quest?

[nova lodge]

yeah, i remember there was a quest related to it.
should be from the UWST research area.

[ancient charm]

Icic thanks

[marble yarrow]

questline starts here (upper left something, you see an elevated area on top-left

[nova lodge]

👆

[marble yarrow]

icon like this

[ancient charm]

hmm I must have already accepted it

[marble yarrow]

something glyphs, like that name

[ancient charm]

aight thx for info

i know which one you are referring to now

[analog elbow]

@marble yarrow i rearrange my Farm so 1 pylon powers 5 sprinklers which means 10 plots

[marble yarrow]

farm maxxing

[analog elbow]

Can finally place 1 more Zipline

[craggy whale]

#1475171010641924298 message @spring orchid

[proper ridge]

Getting too much in making zipline course

[analog elbow]

[crude nebula]

why it's on portait mode

[nova lodge]

imagine.... playing endfield in portrait mode on mobile....

[crude nebula]

"ah my thick yvonne, become as thin as noodle somehow"

[nova lodge]

.gyatt

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1470559890274783234/7gnlhrm4cbee1.png?ex=698bbd1f&is=698a6b9f&hm=3f3ec04d775ce42e3a42e5f8868b92346512b746970e941d537553f53b8baf89&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=720&height=720

[craggy whale]

big enuff to let me eat

[nova lodge]

much gyatt.

[crude nebula]

a bit offset, anyone buy her official released scaled figure?

[uneven aspen]

is this a bug?

[nova lodge]

its not, the loot just got removed and added into your backpack

[near vault]

wuling stock bill shared jobs are real?

i thought nobody does that

[green moon]

first of all, not many ppl reached wuling , and all ppl is grabbing wuling ones

so it will be way less

maybe 1:100

[velvet hemlock]

I share my wuling jobs cause people always do em

[craggy whale]

and then they got 20% durability left

[velvet hemlock]

XD

[heavy sedge]

I need a self sustaining power plant i can put in a sub pac😭

[green moon]

i have mapped all possible places for wuling bills , so i can guarantee 100%

[heavy sedge]

I cant find any blueprints

[green moon]

[nova lodge]

people will just snag away wulling job withing less than 5 min
and yes, i have ziplines too all 4 delivery spots as well.

[craggy whale]

how many power u used

[heavy sedge]

At least 4k

[velvet hemlock]

SC or LC

[heavy sedge]

Or 5

[green moon]

i can finish any wuling delivery within 2min

[craggy whale]

sc

more likely if it s4k

[heavy sedge]

I needa make lc

[uneven aspen]

why so slow, are you not using ziplines?

[craggy whale]

EFO01602I6333I79UO83e if u want

[heavy sedge]

To upgrade my infra station

[near vault]

please share it with me

[heavy sedge]

Thank uuuuu

[craggy whale]

but its for 5k under

[near vault]

im so low on wuling bills

[heavy sedge]

Is it for asia

[green moon]

of im using it lol

[velvet hemlock]

Thats LC?

[craggy whale]

ye

[craggy whale]

sc

[heavy sedge]

Okay thank u

[nova lodge]

....2 mins is pretty much zipline speed.

[craggy whale]

its for under than 5-5.2k?

roughly

[green moon]

plz dont tell me u teleported💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀 💀

[mortal summit]

guys need help

[craggy whale]

need a test tbh with that loop

[craggy whale]

?

[velvet hemlock]

I got this one for blue bats

And purples are hc

[craggy whale]

of wait

sc?

wait

@heavy sedge dont

its for lc

i mean HC

FK

I FORGOT THE SHT

[velvet hemlock]

LC (Green)

[heavy sedge]

The code dont work

[velvet hemlock]

SC (Blue)

HC (purple)

[craggy whale]

yeah

i forgot which lol

for a moment

wait

did he want to use it to produce battery

or

use battery

[heavy sedge]

Produce and use

[velvet hemlock]

He wanted generator

[craggy whale]

ah fk

[velvet hemlock]

Idk what tier tho

[heavy sedge]

I need the lc to sell for infra station lvl

And i can use it to power pac

[uneven aspen]

nah, ziplines are faster than teleporting 2 mins just feels long though

now im curious to time how long it takes

[velvet hemlock]

If you got purples you can power everything from main e.e

[craggy whale]

SC= EFO019aEu9888ue6i5uI2
HC = EFO01Ue36U0006OO47Oa8

@heavy sedge

[heavy sedge]

Okayyp

[craggy whale]

both at max producing

6/min?

i forgot sc produce time

lol

[velvet hemlock]

Those bp's dont quite support power generation modification

[heavy sedge]

Codes work for asia?

[craggy whale]

its asia code

ye

[heavy sedge]

I might be slow hol on

[craggy whale]

just use additional depot for bank

[velvet hemlock]

bleh.

[craggy whale]

too lazy to calculate 1 item/10sec tbh

[velvet hemlock]

XD

I just connect the battery printer to 4 banks

[craggy whale]

1/2 sec

[near vault]

i was always curious, how much durability will you lose if you teleported?

[craggy whale]

is more easy to calculate for efficiency

[mortal summit]

Asia: EFO01A7uU07i44EU9ieO

[green moon]

1 teleport 20%

[heavy sedge]

Yea im slow

[craggy whale]

a tips for blueprint dont get more width block than ur depot

[whole finch]

I like trains

[heavy sedge]

Typed the code wrong lol

[craggy whale]

[green moon]

its huge btw

a decent zipline mapping can guarantee 100%

soooo yeah if u dropped to 99% or below u need better zipline

[craggy whale]

idc about zipline tbf

just make it random lol

i care more factory than my road tbh

[uneven aspen]

saw someone suggest we should have delivery ratings and if it's under 95% can't accept packages from other players. I would love that

[craggy whale]

i mean blacklist courier

[uneven aspen]

95% so accidental jumps no big deal but teleporting is banned

[craggy whale]

there was an incident time

where ppl get yknows scammed by their courier

[velvet hemlock]

Just like irl fr

[craggy whale]

order pizza and 1 slice of it used as tax of the courier?

[nova lodge]

make the box explode when the durability drops

insta kill your character.

[craggy whale]

insta delete account remember me to hardcore mode terraria

[nova lodge]

nein, insta account deletion too much :v, gotta account for gacha revenue :3

but yes, can force the player to try again back to square one instead :3

[craggy whale]

the most annoying is for courier when u cant jump

since my thumb spamms my space every s

[uneven aspen]

hmm video too big, but zipline to the farthest delivery was 1:34

[craggy whale]

r u using obs?

[uneven aspen]

yup

[craggy whale]

u might setting it

[uneven aspen]

was mostly for myself since my zipline is a closed loop was not sure which direction is faster

[craggy whale]

since probably u have HHD

[uneven aspen]

both directions same time

[craggy whale]

my 4 mins video is just 100mb

bro

[raw wolf]

is 26k Xiranite gears sufficient for long term?
if yes I'll switch the gearing system to batteries

[craggy whale]

<@&956153874383781928>

oh

they gone

:)

[uneven aspen]

overkill, you get like what 60? artificing tickets per week

so you want 3000 per week

[velvet hemlock]

I think the farthest ziplines are in wuling

[nova lodge]

currently yes.

since you do need to go to the farm area

[velvet hemlock]

Fill your xiranite comp depot and move on to batteries

[uneven aspen]

Assuming we get rest of wuling after yvonne's banner, 26k is overkill

you just get a head start of filling the depot i guess

[nova lodge]

<----the guy who fill up random stuff unnecessarily

yes, including 80k cryston bottles and components.

[atomic fiber]

you won't need to worry about lacking factory goods tbh

[velvet hemlock]

Pshhh, you think you fill things uneccesarily?

[atomic fiber]

you worry how to cap them asap

[uneven aspen]

i had 80k cryston but then the delivery tasks used them

so they are being used properly

[atomic fiber]

i use sandleaf powder for my delivery

since they always cap

because i have 30/min excess

[uneven aspen]

what should be changed?

[atomic fiber]

Just put your vid to compressor, so it can compress the vid size

[craggy whale]

tbh @atomic fiber hope this feature will be permanently stay for the splitter converger

otherwise the system will be gone for sure lol

[atomic fiber]

dunno about that

[craggy whale]

[atomic fiber]

I'm sure there is another way to get that effect. but will need lots more space

[craggy whale]

i mean the gate system is tbh was my bottleneck to get desired output

[velvet hemlock]

The factory must print everything

[craggy whale]

no

if the splitter will start randomly

then no

the other way to get that effect is basically copy same delay splitter with same times

[atomic fiber]

[craggy whale]

since 1 delay is equal 1

then just add more delay system

thats it

like nvidia does to their whats called super computer

if the vram is not enuff just add it more

until 12 vga

[velvet hemlock]

@nova lodge you seein this?

[craggy whale]

believe me one or few company already starting bottlenecking their technology now until ai finished

after ai finished is time to repolish the technology and make it smaller

lets see if this message will works in 10 years

[velvet hemlock]

XD

[nova lodge]

perlica approved!

[velvet hemlock]

[atomic fiber]

the most hard one is to cap Xiranite + Xiranite component + Bottle with Xiranite Liquid

and LC wuling battery too

https://www.rxddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1rbjtd8/automated_power_detector_adjuster_and_emergency/

[velvet hemlock]

Hard to cap battery if you keep pawning it XD

[atomic fiber]

@craggy whale @severe nexus

that have auto calculator that work one time at the start

that calculate approximately how much battery you need for your power

Basically Auto pwm

[craggy whale]

r u sure?

[atomic fiber]

I'm still trying to figure it out

it's looks quite complex tbh

there is bug abuse and item control magic in there

[craggy whale]

but again

its only for 1

why ppl want to make only for 1 thermal man

but wait

maybe this can be used as timer

but its frking big

but wait they cant calculate mroe than 1 use no?

[atomic fiber]

it's an auto calculation. which yeah you can also use it for adaptive timer

[craggy whale]

does it work for multiple output the question is

[atomic fiber]

you can just use multiple of them, if you can understand it, I think

[craggy whale]

bcs the gate system is to get desired number of output

[atomic fiber]

dunno, I'm still trying to figure it out

[craggy whale]

its not completely mine its from phantom

kek

half phantom half mine

i dont give a fuck who it is

fk it

[atomic fiber]

also this blueprint actually just make me realize we can actually do this

[craggy whale]

i mean u never know?

theres adaptive blueprint already right

[atomic fiber]

no

[craggy whale]

that let u increase battery output if its outage

but wait

it said detects and automatically adjust power

[atomic fiber]

yeah but that one don't really calculate anything. it just add exact number of predetermined amount of battery

[atomic fiber]

yes, it's a calculator

it calculate things and adjust

[fossil spoke]

ey @craggy whale I got something from reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1rboisn/splitter_hell_belt_balancers_splitter_clocks_and/

[sand pivot]

how many production lines of LC can you have in wuling?

with the current mats we get

this is

[craggy whale]

doesnt make sense to me

[fossil spoke]

2 fully efficient one

[sand pivot]

(not counting with meta transfer)

[fossil spoke]

still 2

[sand pivot]

ok ok tysm

[fossil spoke]

battery production doesnt need meta transfer

[sand pivot]

is it because of the skyforge limit?

[fossil spoke]

u should get all mining node tho

yeah

[sand pivot]

ok ok tysm

[atomic fiber]

there is 3 black magic working in there

1. the converger prio bug
2. stash blocker
3. belt spacing
   honestly i don't really get it either

[craggy whale]

wait

but it said "detects how much power you're using and adjusts a thermal bank to have between 1% and 100% uptime)

[shrewd stump]

does anyone have a blueprint for LC Wuling batteries?

[craggy whale]

i dont think th at adjust timing

it just adjust when power outage

[atomic fiber]

you need to adjust timing to adjust power

since 1 power bank power difference is just from timing difference

like how frequent battery being fed

[craggy whale]

frk

time to use all my sanity

[atomic fiber]

time to use it

[sand pivot]

what's the ratio btw? 2 dense orignium powder and 1 xiranite?

[atomic fiber]

go now

[atomic fiber]

what ratio?

[sand pivot]

for LC wuling battery production

[craggy whale]

sorry bronya but i dont see a thing to trigger that "adjust power" except power outage in this game

[atomic fiber]

3 dense originum powder and 1 Xiranite

[sand pivot]

it says 10 xira, 15 dense originium

[subtle finch]

i don't really get the point of adaptive power gen if its gonna cost you moments of outage, aside from its cool i guess.

[craggy whale]

triggering something by how much percentage it left for me seems impossible feat to do

whats triggering it?

and etc

[atomic fiber]

it is just cool stuff. honestly it's kinda dark magic thingy

[sand pivot]

you sure it's not 2 for max efficiency?

I think I might be doing the math wrong ngl

but just to double check

[uneven aspen]

just gives us more options for in the future if there's an use case it can be used quickly

instead of us figuring it out later on

[atomic fiber]

well... first we need to found out how it detect how much power we need, that on it self is already a calculator. after it get that data, then that is when it is being converted to how much battery it need to fed

[sand pivot]

ah yeah right

[tepid wind]

[craggy whale]

the big question

what does originium do

u cant even make powder to powder

wait

is that what they calculate

[atomic fiber]

I believe that is the calculator yeah

but I still don't understand

because after that finish some cycle, the left part will clog.
which I assume that is when the calculation finish

[craggy whale]

still doesnt make sense if the power going up mean originium route is still get blocked

and the only works is on the ferium

that has battery stash on it

it just work as "backup gen" when it outage no?

bcs "if" depot == splitter priority on the converger

means the ferrium powder will always blocking the battery to let em inm

so the only way battery can get in is when power outage and shredding doesnt producing any shit

but smh the other stash

als connect with bank

without any connection to the battery

[nova lodge]

waiting on 1/2 sanity event to roll around for me to spam dem sanity items ;v

[craggy whale]

yeah but

[nova lodge]

panik

[analog elbow]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468631838695100592/my-toughts-after-100h-as-a-brand-new-gacha-player-v0-bqokg61ag3hg1.png?ex=6984b97c&is=698367fc&hm=1d9878061e5afb7ee7e2e8962a56f98397918e0aac3faa4bb9fe78c44e44697e&

[nova lodge]

2 weeks later for 1/2 sanity :v

[atomic fiber]

I don't really understand it all either.

but I think it should clog the left part only, but the right cycle will still run. and that cycle will have some hole in the belt, that hole should be when the battery come in

[craggy whale]

We can "record" how much origo-powder we need for our current power usage by running our facilities for 1 battery's worth of power. This is why we started with 0% power, added 1 battery, and waited until we were back at 0% power. We made x origo-powder in 1 battery's worth of time, therefore we need x origo-powder between each battery from now on. (The math doesn't actually check out, it's more like we need 0.5x + 14ish because we sometimes move half as fast because we're waiting for stashes on either end of the loop. This is more-or-less accounted for in the loading process).
this is how you record the battery

[atomic fiber]

yeah the "record". where it save the calculator result

uh... i will look at it again tomorrow

[craggy whale]

but he didnt mentioned

how it functioned normally

[atomic fiber]

indeed

[craggy whale]

i might thinking this is just another backup gen bp bro

and i think it is t bh

[atomic fiber]

he barely explain the blueprint

[craggy whale]

tbh i think this is another backup when outage

[atomic fiber]

I will look at it again tomorrow

[craggy whale]

theres a reason why i always searching for desire output

bcs "automatic detecting smthng" when theres no trigger

its kinda

impossible no?

the only trigger we have is probably PWM

and thats the most advanced timer that we can currently have tbh

[atomic fiber]

pwm trigger?

[craggy whale]

yeah pwm act as timer

instead for battery

so u can have desire output in that timing

with gate system

but thats mean u also use another formula to calculate

[atomic fiber]

i don't think normal pwm have Trigger... it just continue to run as is.
but yeah gate system do have trigger and timer

[craggy whale]

i mean

pwm act as timer in the gate system

[atomic fiber]

oh... ok

[craggy whale]

and then u can have desired output as u need for that timer

since the gate system can have any desire output number u can have

and can have variety of timer in 1 system but 1 system can only have 1 output number

[atomic fiber]

yeah, that is good enough

[smoky eagle]

Cl34n wa+3R

[craggy whale]

but i still dk the reason

why everybody just make 1 system for 1 output

thats kinda annoying me man

ugh

[sand pivot]

at what rate does the sky forge produce xira fully optimized?

I'd check on mine but I just disassembled it all 💀

[digital oasis]

i think is 30/m per forge

i don't remember

[craggy whale]

it is 30/m

since u made 1 per 2 sec

so max is at 60/sec

[vivid shore]

RUN

[sand pivot]

what about dense originium? isn't it 30/ min as well?

since it's 1 every 2 seconds, 60/2 = 30

so how come when you produce LC for it to be optimized you want 3 lines of dense originium and only 1 of xira?

[craggy whale]

everything that produces at 1/2 sec is 30/min

[sand pivot]

then shouldn't wuling LC battery be 2 dense originium and 1 xira for optimized?

[craggy whale]

wait

[somber snow]

wuling bats take 15 dense oris and 5 xiranite

[craggy whale]

i think 3

bcs u need 15

[somber snow]

so its 3 and 1

[craggy whale]

since 15 every 10 sec is the desired

[somber snow]

whyd u think its 2

wait u said lc

oh nvm, it is wuling

[craggy whale]

same

wuling also use 15

[sand pivot]

I am just trying to understand the logic behind it

but my math isn't mathing

that's the issue 🤣

[craggy whale]

lets said u produce item every 2 seconds

right

[sand pivot]

yeah

[lusty violet]

u need 90/min dense ori, 30/min xiranite

[craggy whale]

but need 10 every 10 seconds since u produce it within 10 seconds

if its only 1 machine

[sand pivot]

ok that's where I was trying to get

got it

I got nit now dw roku

[craggy whale]

it s only go to 5 for each 10 second

[sand pivot]

it finally clicked in my head

you make 1 LC every 10s, 60/10 = 6 batteries per minute
which means you need 6*5 (30) xiranite per minute AND 6*15 (90) dense originium

that's the math I couldn't get to hence my doubts on whether it was 2 or 3 dense originium production lines

so yeah if each line produces 30 per minute, 90/30 = 3

got it now, ty all!