aic-factory

[real marsh]

i have seen enough of this stuff during my exams last week

Anyway i go eep, its 2:33 am

[lone pebble]

let it stabilize 😄

[real marsh]

Want to flex this real quicktho :3

[worthy condor]

Does anyone have a blueprint for yazhen solution completely? I feel so stupid.

[sand pivot]

erm

how is my ferrium consumption above the yield?

[viral wharf]

You could go with 5.25/min (3 fully stocked Thermal Banks + 1 Thermal Bank receiving 1/8th of the output of a Packaging Unit, by using 3 1/2 splits), which would give 4,050 Power.

[sand pivot]

I only have 3 bucks A (1 of them disabled), 3 HC

[real marsh]

uuh how much ferrium are you producing total

[sand pivot]

oh oops

1080/ min

I found out the issue though

[real marsh]

yhea thats max

[viral wharf]

Is your Regional Transfer set to Meta Storage?

[sand pivot]

I made 1 more dense ferrium production line than I need

[real marsh]

:)

Solved

[sand pivot]

guys we did it

I fixed the reports

[nova osprey]

nice! but uhh, your origi powder gonna run out

might need to fix that

[sand pivot]

why is that?

you mean the dense one?

[nova osprey]

yes

[nova osprey]

making 235 but using 270 is going to run out at some point

in about 20 hours

[sand pivot]

so like

2 more production lines?

[nova osprey]

hmm

[sand pivot]

it doesn't make sense though

why is the consumption uneven?

[nova osprey]

lets see your grinders

for the originium

probably an inefficiency somewhere

idk

[sand pivot]

1 sec

[ancient zinc]

[sand pivot]

@nova osprey

[nova osprey]

yeah im taking a look

[sand pivot]

just @ in case u weren't here, sorry ab that

[nova osprey]

allg

you have another grinder setup for it right?

[sand pivot]

yeah

looking for them

[nova osprey]

i don't see any problem on this one

[nova osprey]

hmm

[nova osprey]

there should be one last grinder somewhere too, that adds up to 240

[sand pivot]

let me check

[nova osprey]

left side maybe

no nvm

[sand pivot]

nah left side is HC production

[nova osprey]

yeahh

[sand pivot]

oh yeah

the one I just made, hold up

[nova osprey]

oh i found one issue

[sand pivot]

what is it? 👀

[nova osprey]

here

[sand pivot]

oh xD

[nova osprey]

for the first photo

yeah

[sand pivot]

tysm

[nova osprey]

np

[sand pivot]

ok now on to make another production line

[nova osprey]

im not sure where the other thing is though

[sand pivot]

I already have smth in mind

[nova osprey]

oo okay

[sand pivot]

it's only one no?

235/270?

just this alone should add to 240 and fix the uneven production?

240/30 = 8

[nova osprey]

no that should only bring it up to 250..

[sand pivot]

which is fine

cause it produces 30/ min no?

oh wait ur right

[nova osprey]

it does yes but earlier it was running at 15/min so you increased it by another 15/min

[sand pivot]

I have 9 production lines

9*30 = 270

so I shouldn't need another production line

[nova osprey]

yeah

[sand pivot]

I just have to figure out what's bugging my stuff

[nova osprey]

you're just missing 20 somewhere

[sand pivot]

yeah

[nova osprey]

yeah not sure

[sand pivot]

strange

let me go over the ss again

[nova osprey]

it's really weird because 20/min shouldn't be happening as a loss

it's such a weird number, it would make sense if it were 15 or 30 since that would mean a line of originium or sandleaf missing

[sand pivot]

this one seems fine

[sand pivot]

it was bugged

now that we fixed it it's at 270/270

[nova osprey]

oh what the heck

nice

[sand pivot]

but now my ferrium is also bugged

[nova osprey]

damn okay lol

[sand pivot]

💀

[nova osprey]

oh dear

30/min

[sand pivot]

390/420

bro what the heck xD

it's like one whole production line is not working

lord have mercy

[analog elbow]

I have to manually configure the timing and lower 10 power usage to actually refill the power reserves

[nova osprey]

might be sandleaf

[sand pivot]

unless you mean like an unloader

/ shredder

of sandleaf

[nova osprey]

i mean shredder yes

maybe a line of sandleaf powder is clogged

[sand pivot]

it's bugged

this one

I entered the grinder

[nova osprey]

yeah

[sand pivot]

and I don't see any sandleaf coming in

but the number is stuck at 22

[nova osprey]

no that should be fine

it will behave like that when it's uhh

at full capacity

[sand pivot]

no like

[nova osprey]

like it will be consumed the instant it goes in

[sand pivot]

let me show you

[nova osprey]

kk

[sand pivot]

the one on the bottom you can see this:

but the one I highlighted before

it's like nothing is entering

it's bugged

[nova osprey]

hmm

[nova osprey]

no it's not bugging it's fine, it just looks like it is

here i can send a video of mine

it should be the same

[sand pivot]

no like

this is a diff one

[nova osprey]

oh i see

[sand pivot]

ugh let me record a clip hold up

[nova osprey]

okayy

[sand pivot]

it's so hard to explain through words xD

[random oak]

does anyone have an idea why my v4 aic keeps running out of power? i have 3 HC lines, 3 buckcapA line, and 4 canned citrome line. i checked all of my production line and theres no problem with efficiency or errors

[analog elbow]

Then i realised i just have to turn off my Gearing Unit since i have too many Components

[nova osprey]

yeah lol i get it

[nova pilot]

Did I do well here?

[ancient zinc]

Have u check ur batteries production?

[random oak]

yes

yield 18 and usage 9\

[nova osprey]

looks good but clear out your shredders. looks like some unwanted items got in there

[analog elbow]

Bruh how are you running out

What's your power usage

[ancient zinc]

Woah woah 9?

[nova pilot]

I just turned them off

[ancient zinc]

Are you at 5k + power?

[analog elbow]

He shouldn't be running out of power.i use 8 and I'm at 5k+

[nova osprey]

ah okay

[analog elbow]

@random oak are you running PWM or something

[ancient zinc]

I’m at 5.1 power usage and using 8

[analog elbow]

pretty much the same then

[nova osprey]

you're going to need to send your aic report regarding originium, hc batteries, and maybe a ss on the production side of things

[random oak]

my power 5.7k/6.8k

[analog elbow]

See Overpowered

How tf are you running out of power

[random oak]

i cant really send ss but i can tell

[sand pivot]

@nova osprey so basically since it assumes nothing is entering the grinder, it counts as if it's not producing anything

this is my guess though

[sage jacinth]

put 50 batteries in every thermal bank and after a while check how many of them left in each. All should still have 50. Check issues on those that lost some batteries

[ancient zinc]

Would be nice if u screenshot ur AIC

[tiny panther]

I just finished the main story for now when i got to wuling city and stuff so now im trying to go and look over the brand new factories i can use now. I have essentially blank templates. I was looking through the #1461542035617091681 tab but I was curious about what my priorities actually are. Like i dont know what I should start making first, and possibly some suggestions for blueprints that might help out?

[nova osprey]

loll that is weird

but it is producing and your origi powder is at max yield and usage so that should be fine

might just be a visual bug

i haven't seen that happen before

[sand pivot]

I think it is a visual bug ngl

it's so weird xD

so yeah basically it counts as if it's not producing anything

[nova osprey]

yeah lol

[crimson inlet]

math jumpscare

[sand pivot]

though it's at max efficiency

[ancient zinc]

Dude why can’t send?

Mean we can’t see what u dealing with

[ancient zinc]

I hate math and algebra

[nova osprey]

man i miss doing engineering stuff

lmao duality of man

[cyan forge]

Is there anyone here farming bamboo sprouts

[crimson inlet]

duality of man, hates math in irl, loves it in game

[nova osprey]

[ancient zinc]

We can’t full utilize math at Real life..

But in game we must for efficiency

👌

[ancient zinc]

The wuling bamboo material?

[tiny panther]

any tips?

[small creek]

its alright but ive seen better..

[unreal laurel]

i was trying to get some height for a better zipline placement and i think i entered a restricted area

[ancient zinc]

Ofc u can start with both Xiranite or Wuling batteries or Syringes

[random oak]

orig current: 460, 328 theoretical: 460, 570
amethy c: 240, 30 t: 240, 270
ferrium ore c: 582, 588 t: 1080, 1080
buckflower c: 240, 220 t: 240, 300
sandleaf c: 360, 360 t: 360, 540
origocrust c: 30, 15 t: 30, 30
buck capA c: 10, 0 t: 18, 0
HC valley bat c: 15, 0 t: 18, 9
amethyst component c: 3, 0 t:6, 0

[random oak]

@ancient zinc

[outer sonnet]

Two Xiranite factories, Wulling batteries, Xiranite components, and Yazhen syringes are the priorities.

[random oak]

no idea bruh

[random oak]

when i leave and come back after like 5 hours or after i sleep i return with power shortage

[ancient zinc]

I prefer screenshots man..

[random oak]

but is it readable

[outer sonnet]

And talking about blueprints, i'm looking for one now. Endgame Wulling without Xiranite components.

[analog elbow]

You can't expect us to know the answer

Without showing visuals

It could be your belting or anything

Or even Sandleaf

[random oak]

ok wait

[small creek]

lowk i think theyre just not using any thermal banks

[analog elbow]

Mf has 9 usage

And still woke up with power shortages

Couldn't be it

[ancient zinc]

Are we hackers who could steal ur account with ur UID on ur screenshots?

[small creek]

current 0

oh nvm thats cus its down

theo 9, idk it should be good

[analog elbow]

His productions are max so can't be running out of stock

[small creek]

unless u have some shitty pwm thats actually killing your base

[crude nebula]

we'll hunt based on the IP attached on the image sent here

[analog elbow]

@small creek this is his usage

[small creek]

hell

[analog elbow]

He didn't say anything about that

[small creek]

nah

send screenshot

im not deciphering this

[ancient zinc]

He won’t

[small creek]

He did

bro got everything but the one important thing

where is the power graph

[cyan forge]

YES FINALLY SOMEONE KNOW

[crude nebula]

please use the star icon

[random oak]

where do i check it

[analog elbow]

[random oak]

star icon?

[small creek]

this is gonna be fun

[analog elbow]

yes

Below

The items production section

[ancient zinc]

What’s up?

[crude nebula]

ok brother calm, everyone calm

[small creek]

not his base thats for sure

[analog elbow]

[small creek]

this is killing u

[cyan forge]

Do u farm em? Or like what's the best method to farm it

[analog elbow]

His battery usage is weird

[crimson inlet]

I love formatting Mathjax

[lusty violet]

ur out of sandleaf?

[analog elbow]

Can be running PWM or some shit

[random oak]

wth why did it become 9

[cyan forge]

I currently have like all my turrets + a bunch of ziplines for em

[small creek]

where is the ore

[ancient zinc]

At the moment you can only farm them at certain Mobs

[small creek]

theres no ore graph...

[analog elbow]

Oh right

His sandleaf is off too

[small creek]

nvm its separate

[ancient zinc]

My EYES

[cyan forge]

Road plunderer

[analog elbow]

Bro sandleaf is dying

More plant dupe lmao

[crude nebula]

bro bullying mobs

[ancient zinc]

Unfortunately yes..and drop rate is 50/50

[lusty violet]

ur sandleaf should be double that at least

[random oak]

aight

[analog elbow]

Why are you making the sandleaf work as hard as underpaid employees

[small creek]

with this few sandleaf in your depot, i bet a million bucks you have too few in your planter-seeders

[ancient zinc]

Sometimes it will drop/ not at all for bamboo material

[analog elbow]

That's 360 yield
540 usage

No wonder you'll eventually run out of power

[random oak]

do i have excess buckflower cuz if yes ill replace it with sandleaf

[analog elbow]

Just place one

[crude nebula]

don't worry about mobs that much, i complete until wuling without bullying mobs

[small creek]

youre gonna have to analyze which parts of your base need buckflower and which ones need sandleaf

[analog elbow]

I mean on the empty space

1 seed 2 planter

Or are you using Blueprints for your base

[small creek]

they prob are

[ancient zinc]

Ima assume his AIC units are not / can’t keep up making things to the point it goes z Z z Z

[small creek]

the ore is correct, its either not enough throughput or not enough sandleaf

[random oak]

bruh the orignium ore in valley iv is so little

[ancient zinc]

Sand leaf and dense origiuim

[small creek]

its more than enough, youre not even using it all yet

[random oak]

oh yea

[cyan forge]

50/50? It's more like 1 in 4 or 5

[crude nebula]

shouldn't he just solve the problem if he turnoff some of the turret?

[small creek]

not really

its also a bandaid soln

[shrewd knoll]

hes probably using bad blueprints that feed directly into thermal for energy he probably doesnt need

[ancient zinc]

In my experience kinda..but look at the bright side

Mobs respawn

[cyan forge]

Their respawn is super slow too..

[small creek]

sure you solve the power problem now, but theyll come back and complain why batt is 9 instead of 18/min

[crude nebula]

it's once a day iirc

then it's another separate issue right?

[crimson inlet]

is this correct?

[cyan forge]

I farmed em 1 rotation and i only got like 14 even tho i spent like half an hr

[young stag]

is this much battery usage normal

[small creek]

its the same issue

not enough batteries

[cyan forge]

The drop rate is hideous

[ancient zinc]

Stop..ur torturing me

[small creek]

doesnt matter where it goes to, the cause is the same

[ancient zinc]

Fr fr

[random oak]

should i reach the current data usage or theoretical

[cyan forge]

Ugh... Should i just stop farming this...

[ancient zinc]

Ima guess 1 production line is running 50%?

[crude nebula]

isn't it just better to dump him blueprint, to solve the 18/m battery already?

[random oak]

ok my sand leaf at 450, 449 current data rn

is ti good

[cyan forge]

It's so annoying cos that bamboo drop can make the best heal item in the game

[small creek]

i mean theoretically dumping blueprints everywhere will solve everyone's problems

so why dont we do it

[crude nebula]

sandleaf isn't use for one time use like ore, because sandleaf is recycleable infinitely, as long as the usage & production simillar enough, it's good

[small creek]

and then we can close this channel and just look at blueprint threads

[ancient zinc]

Friendly BP ones…not the HIGH END BP

[lusty violet]

u still need more, add like 2 more at least

[small creek]

theres early and mid game bps too

i mean i made some myself

[ancient zinc]

But mostly BP are at HIGH END

[shrewd knoll]

if you put a blueprint down and you dont understand it, you shouldnt be using it

[small creek]

i dont see why this is an issue

[random oak]

aight

[small creek]

theres bps for everyone

[ancient zinc]

Share it

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465620233656991887
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466126060042322073
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467717814164000858

[ancient zinc]

Well some people doesn’t get the idea unit works or where to place certain materials

[crude nebula]

that's the issue of the user, at least he need to learn himself to know why

[young stag]

are these repair counters just 100% fake or what

[small creek]

i can just shove this up anyones problem and solve it sure

[shrewd knoll]

and the problem with blueprints channel is that, its so messy and filled with the same things and a lot of troll things

[small creek]

but what would the point of this channel then be

[ancient zinc]

Stop hiding under grounds

[small creek]

if you would look at my designs, they have item control ports as guides
and the respective threads serve as qna for troubleshooting

[shrewd knoll]

let the man explore the underdark

[ancient zinc]

Its dangerous to go alone

[random oak]

how many sandleaf dupers i need to support my 3 HC lines

[sand pivot]

what's max ferrium per min? 1080?

[small creek]

6

[limber spade]

anyone seen/gotten a zipline on top of this collection of containers in Origin Lodespring? Been trying for the better part of an hour.

[shrewd knoll]

i think its an unopened area to a quest that is yet to exist

you can see some jump pads in there

but is inaccessible

[unreal laurel]

anyone else having trouble opening endfield tools

[limber spade]

yeah thats why I was figuring there'd be some way in

[lusty violet]

5

[small creek]

5 is possible but the logistics gets really messy

[lusty violet]

+extra for buck [a] setups

[limber spade]

I might try Laev/Yvonne ult climb to place a zipline since I'm just 1 level below what I need to get full access.

[small creek]

just do 6 for your own sanity

[random oak]

alright

[ancient zinc]

Quick micro jump switch I see

[unreal laurel]

maybe....

[random oak]

i have 8 sandleaf dupers

[young stag]

no

[sand pivot]

I really need someone's help cause I am going insane

[limber spade]

cause yeah it doesn't wanna clip to that 3x3.

[ancient zinc]

Why it’s 15 instead of 18?

[shrewd knoll]

you just need to get high enough then use the alt pointer to place those kind of areas

[lusty violet]

if ur also making 18/min buck [a], you'll need 11-12 dupers

[young stag]

it is 18 what

are you talking about my buck a perhaps

if then yes there’s one that’s running @ 50%

[shrewd knoll]

but a lot of the time, those white markers are not accurate

[random oak]

alright

[sand pivot]

why is my dense ferrium not 540/540? I literally just checked every dense ferrium grinder and it's getting 2 ferrium powder 1 sandleaf powder

[ancient zinc]

Oh f..my bad

I was looking the other way

[random oak]

how much citrome dupers for my 4 line canned citrome c

[sand pivot]

it's like I am missing an entire production line of dense ferrium but it doesn't make sense, I just have 3 bucks A and 3 HC, nothing else that is using dense ferrium

yet I'm short 😅

[lusty violet]

2

[small creek]

2

[random oak]

aight

how many buckflowers dupe for my 3 line buckcapA

[lusty violet]

6

[small creek]

this feels like answering a test

[random oak]

test of your sanity

[crude nebula]

someone teach him to to reverse setup a AIC please

from the end product to raw

[shrewd knoll]

that only works if he already has a production line going

and needs to be remodeled

otherwise, its better to build forward

[sand pivot]

guys just because I am having an issue where I am using more dense ferrium than I'm yielding, how much dense ferrium grinders do I need in a full efficient bucks A production line and in a full efficient HC production line

[small creek]

i actually prefer building reverse

lets me know what i need first

[crude nebula]

i personally prefer on reverse too, it's easier especially you can pin and track how much item you need

[random oak]

how do you reverse without messing things up

[lusty violet]

buck [a] 4 grinders, hc battery 2 grinders

[ancient zinc]

Make my test exam pass pls

[lusty violet]

*grinders making ferrium

[small creek]

you take a look at the formula and build the prerequisite

then the prereq has a prereq, etc

until you reach the most basic materials, ore and flower

[crude nebula]

don't suddently put 3 HC bat machine

put 1 by 1

[random oak]

so basically build from the top?

[small creek]

from the endpoint

[crude nebula]

yeah HC > dense thing > bla bla > sandleaf

[ancient zinc]

People have different ways from start to end / end to start

[sand pivot]

yeah I just double checked

bro this makes no sense

[small creek]

yea top can be anything here

[sand pivot]

I don't know anymore xd

[small creek]

better refer to just endpoint

[shrewd knoll]

its just on people's build preference, because the end point is not always the end point of one side, it could well be the center of it

[sand pivot]

3 bucks A, 3 HC and I am short on dense ferrium somehow

[lusty violet]

whats ur sandleaf production looking like

[sand pivot]

I can't even make another dense ferrium production line cause then I go in ferrium deficit

[shrewd knoll]

i think im only producing less than 390 sandleaf and im using all my resources

i think you have too many

[lusty violet]

and every grinder is getting 2 belts of ferrium powder, and 1 belt of sandleaf powder?

[sand pivot]

yeah

I double checked

[random oak]

im so pissed of my units are sleeping

[sand pivot]

every grinder has 2 ferrium, 1 sandleaf powder

I will show you even

[lusty violet]

which units

[random oak]

the shredder that shreds plants

almost all of my core aic space is used up by plant dupers

[lusty violet]

is it getting enough sandleaf

[random oak]

sometimes it sleeps once in a while

[small creek]

that means theres not enough sandleaf going into it

[random oak]

thats why

[shrewd knoll]

i mean, dont follow the "meta" it's not even important because you will max out on everything eventually

[random oak]

and that means more plant dupers

[crude nebula]

are you sure you had dupe correctly?

[shrewd knoll]

just look at my stockpile of random stuff

[paper magnet]

i need a sanity check on fluid pumps

[random oak]

yes i think i just need to add more

[unreal laurel]

helo

[paper magnet]

pipes can transfer at 2 units/s, so any liquid source can only supply 2 facilities without clogging right

if i use a splitter

[small creek]

i think so yeah

im not that good with pipes tbh

[paper magnet]

then again

[crude nebula]

yes

[paper magnet]

i dont think it matters for eco farm

so im just gonna send it

[shrewd knoll]

even without targeting "the most expensive item", outpost cant keep up if you use up all your resources

[small creek]

it doesnt matter at all yea lol

[unreal laurel]

i got the ardelia wpn essense!!

[random oak]

nice job

[unreal laurel]

what essense should i try getting?

i already did sundering steel and this one

[shrewd knoll]

thats not ardelia's weapon though

i dont think she has infliction

[random oak]

what weapons r u using

[random oak]

she has

[unreal laurel]

idk

[dire vapor]

Tidied up my V4 base and now I can play football in the middle

[shrewd knoll]

oh wait

it is

[unreal laurel]

shes a debuffer too....

[random oak]

try getting the best weapons on each operator b4 doing essence and weapon tuning

[shrewd knoll]

i just get confused cuz they have different names after it

[paper magnet]

welcome to essence hell!!!!

but tbh

you dont really need a flawless essence for ard?

[unreal laurel]

wdym hell?

im 2/2 already

[paper magnet]

lowkey if you just want the debuff you can make do with a lower tier

[sand pivot]

omg

I found it

[unreal laurel]

1 day of farming each

[sand pivot]

finally

jfc

😭

[unreal laurel]

jfc?

[sand pivot]

one of the sandleaf belts didn't connect properly

[shrewd knoll]

its just kinda dumb that essence can get double secondary or skill if you dont engrave it with tickets

[sand pivot]

so one of the grinders was not getting a sandleaf input

[lusty violet]

[unreal laurel]

i once got a triple duplicate of a shit essense

[shrewd knoll]

makes the RNG that much more random

[sand pivot]

does it take a while for it to stabilize?

[unreal laurel]

legit 3 copies of the same thing

[sand pivot]

cause it's still at 520/540

which doesn't even make sense

cause it's 20, not 15 or 30

[lusty violet]

give it a few min

[paper magnet]

i personally just put a 2 level purple essence on this cos i cba to go grind it out

[sand pivot]

ok ok

tysm jas

if I didn't go to take a screenshot of EVERY single grinder to show you

I'd have not found this 😭

[paper magnet]

getting the essence is just step 1

[random oak]

finally my units arent slacking anymore

[lusty violet]

debug life

[paper magnet]

next you gotta max it out

[sand pivot]

yeah it's fixed!

jeeeez

[crude nebula]

i had been leaving essence farm, due to not many sig weps i own

[sand pivot]

I spent like 1h trying to spot this

I could not be a backend dev yikes

or a tester

[unreal laurel]

spot a what

[sand pivot]

imagine spending your whole life looking for problems or trying to solve them

hell no

[sand pivot]

basically my dense ferrium production was bricked and I couldn't find where the error was

[shrewd knoll]

you should keep your blueprints complete and non-modular so you can pretty much delete without thinking

[unreal laurel]

nice

[shrewd knoll]

just include everything it needs

[sand pivot]

I have the process split in 3

[shrewd knoll]

its one and done

[sand pivot]

I have dense originium in one outpost

dense ferrium in another one

and then just the simple part of the HC apart

[shrewd knoll]

that way of building isnt bad, but it's not good if you want to expand

or scale up

to have to keep track of every little thing

[sand pivot]

hopefully I am done with V4

[sand pivot]

cause I can't imagine having to scale this up

after all this work 🤣

[young stag]

i finally fixed everything lmao

only took me a month or so

[paper magnet]

chat

do i convert origeometry

[young stag]

no

[young stag]

buy the freemium battle pass

[paper magnet]

i did

i maxed it out

[shrewd knoll]

you might have to dig into the yellow cancer rocks

[proper ravine]

oof

[paper magnet]

im just figuring out if i can pull 20 pulls in 2 days

without swiping the credit card

[random oak]

i suggest not cuz oriogometry is rare

[paper magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/digimon-anime-japanese-cartoon-credit-card-technology-gif-5607300

[proper ravine]

you have enough

[shrewd knoll]

if hes swiping anyway, it doesnt matter

[random oak]

30k

[paper magnet]

my mistake was not buying a daily pass i think

[young stag]

wdym may have

[shrewd knoll]

arknights pass has always been underwhelming

[random oak]

isnt it monthly

[young stag]

should i miss out

i already have gilberta but that 23 pulls left

calls for me…

[paper magnet]

is it? alot of people call it literally stealing money from hypergryph

[proper ravine]

i got lucky with her

[young stag]

you spend like what 29 orig

[shrewd knoll]

compared to other gacha games, arknights give you only like 12x pulls

[young stag]

to get back 32

[paper magnet]

no not that pass

the daily one

[young stag]

miniscule returns

[lusty violet]

monthly pass u mean

[paper magnet]

fine fine the monthlyone that gives you orginium for logging in daily

[lusty violet]

if ur gonna spend money, monthly pass is most efficient for $/pull

[paper magnet]

[lusty violet]

its just slow

[crude nebula]

it's called patient

[paper magnet]

my gender neutral sibling in non specific religion, its literally free

[proper ravine]

its 12 pulls but you log in every day for a month

[paper magnet]

most passes you'd be lucky to even break even

[proper ravine]

its hard to say whether its worth that

[young stag]

you get a whole three origeometry back

yuge

[shrewd knoll]

the all rounder bundle pretty much only one worth it, or the current chartered 10x if you dont want the arsenal tokens

[paper magnet]

its F R E E

• all the other stuff in it

[young stag]

its not even worth like one pull worth of extra orig

lmao

[proper ravine]

nothing is free

[paper magnet]

by that logic

dont buy it then

[shrewd knoll]

but the premium currency to pulls in this game is kinda bad for value

[paper magnet]

i'll enjoy my extra 3 origeometry

[young stag]

when did i ever complain about it

[proper ravine]

genshin is better for pulls

[crude nebula]

so no one here saving for yvonne banner, huh

[paper magnet]

but dont you have to spend more pulls overall

[random oak]

i have 22 chartered HH permit, 42810 oroberly and 110 attempts untill guarantee, should i pull for gilberta?

[paper magnet]

do you want gilberta?

[young stag]

doesn’t yvonne kinda suck

[paper magnet]

if yes -> pull
if no -> dont pull

[young stag]

as of 1.0

or 1.1

[random oak]

yvonne banner already passed right?

[crude nebula]

next banner is yvonne

[shrewd knoll]

thats the next banner

[proper ravine]

yeah you do, same gaurentee, but in enfield pity doesnt roll over

[random oak]

which one is better yvonne or gilberta

[shrewd knoll]

the supporter is always better

[crude nebula]

i'm all out in yvonne then

[shrewd knoll]

for the long run

dps gets eclipsed

and power creeped

[young stag]

should i save bond quota or spend it on tickets

[crude nebula]

it's 5k oroberyl for 10 pulls right?

yeah it's totally enough saving for now

[paper magnet]

cant wait for my australian bunny to get power crept by the chinese dragon

[proper ravine]

i think you are still short for guarentee

[dire vapor]

gurantee is 60k

[paper magnet]

they might give another 10 pulls for yvonne in the shop/login tho

[proper ravine]

woops, me mathing wrong

[proper ravine]

they dont count to pity

[dire vapor]

They count

[crude nebula]

oh yeah, the free login should also add another 10

[paper magnet]

im p sure they do

they're just tickets

[dire vapor]

The only thing that doesn't count is the free roll at 30

[proper ravine]

last one didnt

[dire vapor]

It does

[shrewd knoll]

yea the doccier turns into the chartered HH ticket

[crude nebula]

even you can buy the timer ticket too in shop

another extra pull

[paper magnet]

not the dossier

the free chartered tix in the arsenal shop

[dire vapor]

Again, the only thing that doesn't count towards pity is urgent recruitment

[paper magnet]

• the login

[dire vapor]

Everything else counts

[paper magnet]

5+5 gets you another 10 pull

[dire vapor]

Don't get confused

[young stag]

wait do daily goods actually replenish

[paper magnet]

no

its mistranslated

[glad needle]

thats 157+22 pulls

[paper magnet]

its not daily as in you get it daily

[dire vapor]

They are daily goods as in, they are everyday essentials

[paper magnet]

its daily as in "stuff you use daily"

[dire vapor]

Not the gacha kind of daily

[glad needle]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-lion-sped-up-silly-goober-sea-gif-1807503861489774979

[paper magnet]

so asking for a friend

[crude nebula]

i mean i dont really want to use the origeometry thing

[paper magnet]

how many ginseng plots do yall have

[crude nebula]

so only 150 + 22

[glad needle]

thats without ori

[unreal laurel]

0

[dire vapor]

I just have 8 ginseng and 8 amber, I haven't touched them since I trimmed the RE medals

[shrewd knoll]

you just want to keep a certain amount of them for the battle pass or use them for stamina regen

[paper magnet]

ah

so 20 is overkill then

[dire vapor]

Depends on how much you want to hoard; at some point you will have to farm fillets more than ginseng

[paper magnet]

whats the rice for?

[crude nebula]

oh i only count for each 10 pull, that's i only got to 150 + 22

my bad

[dire vapor]

Nothing really, its for defense food

[glad needle]

https://klipy.com/gifs/plink-wide-cat-1

we need plink but perlicia

[dire vapor]

But there's also nothing in the game that really demands food consumables outside of medal trimming

[paper magnet]

im thinking of whether i want to bother with floofy jincao

[crude nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-perlica-gif-14181215144351724281

there

[paper magnet]

but i guess i can just be better at dodging

[shrewd knoll]

you dont even need food for the trims

[unreal laurel]

Yall cook?

[shrewd knoll]

its just a pointless flex with the food

[dire vapor]

Makes it easier either way

[paper magnet]

true

i could get better at the game

[dire vapor]

I'm not going to say no to a low effort handicap

[crude nebula]

in battle, it comes back to skill issue

[paper magnet]

or i could just get 180 atk for free

well

"free"

ok i still got a fair bit of oryberyl content

like etchspace and all the random sidequests

[glad needle]

dude

[viscid plover]

[glad needle]

i guess i have to start saving wulbat

[crude nebula]

you always sell yazhen or jiiaco?

[viscid plover]

i cut down my wuling bat for that reason, overproducing

[glad needle]

im using hc for my power in wuling

[viscid plover]

same

[crude nebula]

yeah, i switch after some times, so it won't clogged

[glad needle]

guess i have to start producing component

until its 48k

seems good

[viscid plover]

[crimson inlet]

what it looks like vs how you type it in:

[crude nebula]

are you trying to complete a thesis or disertation?

[crimson inlet]

I'm calculating my Wuling electricity

and have it be explainable to chen

[shrewd knoll]

without being able to construct power reserve, using J is pointless

[viscid plover]

chen will just humu humu you and understood nothing

[crimson inlet]

AIC grid system has a power reserve of 100,000J

[crude nebula]

are you done with your today's sanity run? to have this much free time

[paper magnet]

really

couldve powered 4 sprinklers with 1 pylon

[shrewd knoll]

just move your pipe to a less desirable location

[analog elbow]

Not possible

[paper magnet]

its not the pipe

[analog elbow]

Plots gap

Can't get any closer than that

[shrewd knoll]

you still still move the sprinklers

[analog elbow]

Where

[shrewd knoll]

like closer

[analog elbow]

There's plots....

[shrewd knoll]

sprinklers are 3x3

you have 3x3 space between you and the plots

[crude nebula]

the 3x3 space really annoy me somehow

[analog elbow]

Idk man i have never seen people using less than 4 Pylons because of the gap

[shrewd knoll]

put the spinklers in a row

they should still reach the 4 plots

on each side

[merry wagon]

gonna have to slap this on to people who says games lead to violence

[crimson inlet]

this is a good time to note that I'm enrolling myself in comsci and later in electrical engineering

[paper magnet]

oh like what im already doing?

[analog elbow]

[shrewd knoll]

yes but closer

[paper magnet]

it literally cant get any closer

[crimson inlet]

this is prime time to learn, which all devolves into Ohm's law

[viscid plover]

yea fitting 4 into the pylon also means you not using 4 sprinkler for 8 plot

[paper magnet]

i would genuinely love to 1 sprinkler 4 plots

[crude nebula]

so bachelor's degree then, good luck

[shrewd knoll]

you can have that one water the plots across it

[viscid plover]

can you demonstrate how it's done?

i would love to see 1 pylon 8 plot

[analog elbow]

Same

[viscid plover]

best i have is 1pylon 6 plot

[shrewd knoll]

it is a pain in the ass to setup because they dont let you place them without a plot in the radius

[analog elbow]

In the end it's 4 Pylons isn't it since we have 20 plots

[unreal laurel]

what gear for ardelia?

[analog elbow]

But it's possible with the limitations or?

You want us to defy limitations

[viscid plover]

yea 4 for 20

[calm crow]

Good luck soldier

[crude nebula]

check pin on #team-build , someone already built Excel for it

[unreal laurel]

excel?

wtf

[crude nebula]

yeah, ikr...

dedication for 1.0

[analog elbow]

Standard Support Gear should be good enough

Unless you want to min max build your SP

[unreal laurel]

why tf do we need a google doc and excel sheet for this....

[viscid plover]

the vip plot

[analog elbow]

Idk maybe the entire things explained?

[unreal laurel]

cant we just have a condensed build card like genshin

its easier on the eyes and brain

[crude nebula]

no if you want to have correct armor for correct team

[analog elbow]

Yeah i have never seen anyone using less than 4 pylons. I tried to place here and there but

[viral wharf]

Easier to edit with the ever changing meta rn

[shrewd knoll]

how many do you think can fit in here

[unreal laurel]

just match an image then use common sense to pick the one with the right stats ...

[analog elbow]

6?

[unreal laurel]

how hard can that be

[viscid plover]

that's 6

[shrewd knoll]

its not done yet

im just moving them

[viscid plover]

let him cook

[crude nebula]

just use eternal xianite set then

[analog elbow]

Let's see his cooking

[crude nebula]

why ask?

easy right?

[viscid plover]

https://tenor.com/view/perlica-perlica-chan-arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-gif-12709002987692204762

[analog elbow]

Smash

[shrewd knoll]

this is 10 fields

with a single pylon

[paper magnet]

farm needs a topdown mode man

[crude nebula]

at first i though, if i remove the valley 4 farm plot, i can have more plot for wuling, but it doesn't work like that

[shrewd knoll]

yea, the farm sux for setting up

[analog elbow]

[analog elbow]

Valley has different soil

[sand pivot]

can they restore our HP in the beginning/ end of protocol spaces?

[analog elbow]

Not as rich as Wuling's

[sand pivot]

like it's kind of annoying I'm farming something and I have to leave to go to tp to get healed and then come back xD

[analog elbow]

Try to defy the limitations and place Healing Station

[shrewd knoll]

fields are like this if i turn facilities off

so 10 fields with 1 pylon

they are all watered

[analog elbow]

So wet

[viscid plover]

amazing now time to redo my plot

the timer wont be affected right?

[analog elbow]

unless you stash it i guess

[shrewd knoll]

if you leave the farms alone

[analog elbow]

Idk i never tried

[shrewd knoll]

if you pull them out, they get affected

actually not sure if you just move them

never tried

[paper magnet]

magic plots that lets you move them

[viscid plover]

moving is fine then i guess

[analog elbow]

Just wait til harvest

[viscid plover]

2 hour ew

[analog elbow]

Do something else man

[viscid plover]

how to wait faster

[analog elbow]

[crude nebula]

sleep irl

[analog elbow]

Workout or something

[paper magnet]

truly genshin tourists arent beating the allegations

[crude nebula]

run around valley 4 without dash and zipline

[paper magnet]

but fr tho

are people using anything aside from eternal xiranite on sheep girl

[shrewd knoll]

the damage mitigation one, slab set

since she can heal quite often

[paper magnet]

oh you know

genuinely that one wouldve helped me alot in umbral monument

fucking crossbow fucks

[shrewd knoll]

its also will focus, so higher heals too

[paper magnet]

but only for herself right

[viscid plover]

[shrewd knoll]

its only for your controlled op

since it requires picking up sheeps

[modest bluff]

You don't need either. It's just a doc or Excel Sheet help a lot of us visualizing production models before we implementing them in-game

[rose yoke]

Hi i dont understsand. I have max power of 640, but when i create a new thermal bank, it still remain max power of 640, why?

[shrewd knoll]

did you fuel it?

[paper magnet]

did you put in anything?

[modest bluff]

Also, excel sheet also helped some players who are real life electrician to build logistic-control models

[modest bluff]

Fuel it

[rose yoke]

yes i saw the battery go in my latest bank

[paper magnet]

he means for gear (sort of off topic)

oh

it takes 40s to power

[shrewd knoll]

was it within a pylon range?

[modest bluff]

Oh I thought he was referring to the AIC since this is our AIC channel

my bad, anways, back to optimizing, boys !

[paper magnet]

damn

didnt realise akekuri was better than arclight

[rose yoke]

yes, oh sometimes my max power goes back down. i saw it reach above 640, it went 800 something. but down back to 640

[crude nebula]

her ult is great imo

[paper magnet]

building her means i have half a laevatein team built as well

[rose yoke]

hahaha so its not consistent

[shrewd knoll]

then probably all of your thermals not getting enough

to go around

[paper magnet]

no thermite cutter tho

that's probably next on the list of things to get

[shrewd knoll]

build more batteries

[rose yoke]

oh so i need batteries to constantly goes in?

[shrewd knoll]

it should be clogged

for best result

[atomic fiber]

here 2 pylons for 20 plots

[rose yoke]

thanks for the tip, i thought that was a bad thing last time. ok thanks, time for more packaging unit

[paper magnet]

its

beautiful

[sand pivot]

is it true wuling plants are better for carbon and if so, how?

[paper magnet]

1 plant = 2 carbon

[sand pivot]

I see I see

[paper magnet]

and you only need 1 seeding and 1 picking to make a perpetual wuling plant farm

[crude nebula]

i just hope in future update, valley 4 also allowed to have wuling plant

[shrewd knoll]

valley doesnt need carbon

[paper magnet]

Valley 4 has no water near the aic iirc

[viscid plover]

god forbid v4 have water amirite

[paper magnet]

Meta transfer it from wuling

[sand pivot]

oh I see

[atomic fiber]

in the future it's more likely you will turn off your Valley IV factory

[sand pivot]

cause it gives 2 plants, so you can feed 1 into the seeder and use the other one

[atomic fiber]

[calm crow]

You need To flood Valley IV first, we have no water stations

[shrewd knoll]

theres a dam next to the AIC

they can just let the water flow

[atomic fiber]

yeah there is water near Valley IV main AIC

[crude nebula]

as simple as puddle with water icon, you can set the machine there

[atomic fiber]

the cliff

[calm crow]

Huh, I never knew

[atomic fiber]

"good stuff jump below"

[calm crow]

It's still a cloud on that part of my map lol, I finished everything but I did not get there lol

[sand pivot]

do you need 1 fluid pump per machine? or is one enough to fill multiple?

[atomic fiber]

1 fluid pump enough for 2

[crude nebula]

this one is you just need to find ramp to run up there

[rose yoke]

hmm something is not right

[shrewd knoll]

jump below happy!

[rose yoke]

it feels slow moving

[shrewd knoll]

your originium is not enough

[atomic fiber]

it is what it is

[calm crow]

1 battery evey 10s

[rose yoke]

oh but i have 8k and it keeps pumping

[earnest steeple]

Orignium shreds 1:1. So you'll need another line and another shredder.

[rose yoke]

oh. that is really slow

[crude nebula]

that's the only way

[young stag]

feed them from a protocol stash that acts like a temp storage

[rose yoke]

ok noted. thanks

[crude nebula]

there's no speed boost like in clash of clans

[rose yoke]

i will try this too

[calm crow]

What do you need for 1 LC battery again?

[shrewd knoll]

it needs 2 shredders for full production

i only see 1

so you are making 3 per minute

instead of 6

[earnest steeple]

Wuling? 5 xiranite and 15 dense orignium something.

[rose yoke]

yea thanks. ok i make another shrededr

[calm crow]

Valley LC

15 origo dust and 10 amethyst parts right?

[earnest steeple]

5 amethyst parts and 10 orignium dust.

[nova osprey]

did you split a line of originium

[nova osprey]

should be 10 and 10

i think

no it's 10:5

[calm crow]

I overestimated lol

I stand corrected by both people above me

[nova osprey]

number of shredders is okay but needs to not split a line of originium

two lines

[versed ermine]

ok, i remember once reading that you can transfer materials between valley iv and wuling
i even set it to send some random stuff

where can i see it or change it again?

[vestal tiger]

Regional transfer

[versed ermine]

where is that in the menu?

[nova osprey]

bottom right

[crude nebula]

get close to a PAC, the open the "management" option

[versed ermine]

ah.. the PAC

[nova osprey]

oh that's what you meant mb

[versed ermine]

thanks for the info

there are so many menus that sometimes is hard to find the right menu or the right term, lol

i remember transfering originium ore to wuling when it first popped and i thought it was still substracting but alas

:(

i don't think i'm missing any nodes, just develpoment bonuses

[crude nebula]

if your development level already reached lvl 12, you can meta transfer instead

[versed ermine]

not even 10 yet

i'm making hc valley batteries

[nova osprey]

what's your rdm?

[crude nebula]

The benefit is that you no longer transfer your yield item. Ypu will transfer anything out of air

[versed ermine]

rdm?

the regional level is 9, almost nothing to 10

[nova osprey]

ah well

yeah missing that ig

2 more levels to max ores

[versed ermine]

i went and placed all 20 ziplines in theorigin lodespring to make missions and get more credits

just to keep upgrading and building stuff, lol

my blueprint for the batteries uses like 70% of the surface of each outpost, lol

[leaden drift]

been cleaning up my lodespring too

[versed ermine]

the main area is still littered with random builds, but i'm about to clean house there too

[leaden drift]

i think my most cleaned area is power plateau

[nova osprey]

that's insane

[leaden drift]

been working hard on them ziplines

[nova osprey]

i need to get to mine tbh

I've just been optimizing the crap out of turrets for alluviums

[leaden drift]

my wuling is pretty crazy too

[nova osprey]

do you have the mountain one?

[leaden drift]

which one

[nova osprey]

uhh right side i think, someone got there by clipping through the ground using the geologist

[nova osprey]

not that one no, it's a 0 sanity zipline placement (kind of)

out of bounds

[glad needle]

am i cheap chat

[leaden drift]

i think i hit every mountain for the most part

[leaden drift]

are you trying to make money?

[glad needle]

i am

[leaden drift]

its gonna be hard for ya

[glad needle]

naur

[severe nexus]

does anyone have an and gate design that doesnt leak items and is small

[leaden drift]

i have to sell batterings

[glad needle]

[leaden drift]

for xiranite or something?

[charred quest]

Can you share a few spot with me? I think I am only missing two

[leaden drift]

US eur?

[charred quest]

Yep

[leaden drift]

sure just search Yushwa

that should be me

which one u trying to get

[severe nexus]

general purpose

[leaden drift]

i am doing a weird thing with xiranite

[charred quest]

Need these, I wish I have some to share with you but seems you got them all

[sand pivot]

why can't I place depot bus in the wuling pac

area*

[leaden drift]

have u unlocked it

for the area

[severe nexus]

what are you doing?

oh nvm i see the image

[leaden drift]

i have a priortize batteries

but when batteries and xiranite max it auto does comps

[sand pivot]

yeah

[leaden drift]

as in the owl thingy

[sand pivot]

but when I try to place it, it gives an error limit reached

[sand pivot]

u got that for wuling too? 😲