#aic-factory

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nova osprey
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that's the point of optimizing towards 18/18/24

viral wharf
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Yeah to do 4.5 Syringes/min (90 Ferrium Ore/min), you use 3 Unloaders, with the middle one splitting into both the bottle and parts production.

real crescent
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do your tower defenses, use chracters that give boni. if you have done that, that thats it

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optimal setup will produce more than you can sell

viral wharf
nova osprey
royal eagle
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Ooh

viral wharf
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  • 5 bottles/10s = 30 bottles/min = 60 Ferrium Ore/min
  • 10 parts/10s = 60 parts/min = 60 Ferrium Ore/min
  • 60 + 60 = 120 Ferrium Ore/min > 90 Ferrium Ore/min
    Unloader = 30/min
    90 / 30 = 3 Unloaders
velvet hemlock
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Factory needs shift clicking

royal eagle
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This is equal split .75 each

frail trail
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i think it will clog at the converger

steel shell
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People kept talking about min max battery, so i decided to join the trend PerliDerp

nova osprey
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sigh yk what nevermind PerliWheeze

frail trail
nova osprey
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it is so annoying xD

lone pebble
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tell me how to implement 30 hc bat with 12 buck a ! leave the belt`s out :)) max i can up with is 24 stable ! at1080 ferr with 690 ori !

nova osprey
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you cant

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18 hc bat is max

subtle finch
lone pebble
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u can !

nova osprey
frail trail
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24 buck a is possible tho, but you will run out of ferrium

lone pebble
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if i give the writen ideea think u can implement it ?

frail trail
steel shell
nova lodge
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resume: i had published a thesis before!
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..
...
in endfield ;3

frail trail
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max originium in valley 4 is 560/min

nova osprey
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maybe they mean both v4 and wuling side

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idk

frail trail
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6 hc/min require 180 originium/min

nova osprey
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im not doing that sounds like a pain to manually transfer

nova osprey
frail trail
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oh ye mb

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180

nova osprey
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technically if you consider both side originium/ferrium you can reach 30/min but that's just annoying to do manually

frail trail
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bigger question is why would you need to do this

lone pebble
# steel shell write it on a paper

S) (S) (S) (S) (S) (S) [ G ] [ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BAT 1 ]
(S - Sandleaf) --------/ |
|
(S) (S) (S) (S) (S) (S) [ G ] [ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BAT 2 ]
(S - Sandleaf) --------/ |
|
... (încă 3 rânduri identice pentru baterii) ..........|............................
|
[ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ] [ Fi ][ Fi ][ Fi ] | (Magistrală Steel Parts)
[ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ] [ Fi ][ Fi ][ Fi ] -------+
|
.......................................................|............................
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(S) (S) (S) (S) [ G ] [ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BUCK 1 ]
(S - Lincite) ---------/ |
[ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BUCK 2 ]

nova osprey
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eh idk

steel shell
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not write it

nova osprey
steel shell
nova osprey
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man if you can type it like that why cant you just make the farm yourself kek

lone pebble
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to tired ! tryed for the past 7h to implement and cant figure out the road`s ways :))

steel shell
lone pebble
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:))

nova osprey
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i am losing braincells by being here i should go KEKK

royal eagle
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Im done

lone pebble
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u just need to make 20shred, that uses 600 Ori to make 30 bat :)) its possible :))

royal eagle
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I can't keep up

nova osprey
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not 600

royal eagle
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Im not learning coding for this

nova osprey
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your math is wrong

nova osprey
royal eagle
nova osprey
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no it's not lol

nova lodge
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there are 2 ways to play the game....
the normal way.
or
the 0 sanity way.

royal eagle
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Don't you think coding is random bullshit together

nova osprey
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i do coding lol, it's my major

lone pebble
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we chose sanity :))

royal eagle
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Ik

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Im cs

nova lodge
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i had dabled in many strange fields....including cs....

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just an average joe, don't mind me

lone pebble
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but it it possible ! if i could manage to make the rate to 24batt/min ;stable fer at 1073 , and ori usage at around 680 ! think it can bedone better ! as some showd in the morning !

subtle finch
nova lodge
lone pebble
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let me find the pic , and i`l repost

nova lodge
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modular dige appeared ;v
(and i understand none of it)

leaden drift
lone pebble
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found it

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and i manage to do this

nova lodge
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600 actual originum ore usage....

nova osprey
nova osprey
leaden drift
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Stacked up the materials then did a push for batteries

nova osprey
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im guessing they had previously stored blocks of origicubes

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yeah

frail trail
lone pebble
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then explain the flat line of 10 min!!!

leaden drift
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Only way it makes sense

frail trail
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i was wrong

nova lodge
nova osprey
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show origicube on that list

lone pebble
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true but you still have the TH data , and the flat line dosent lie :))

nova osprey
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or whatever the name of that is

leaden drift
nova osprey
lone pebble
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is there in the first pic

leaden drift
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Alot of important parts are missing

royal eagle
nova osprey
nova lodge
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i am still playing the normal way....mostly.

royal eagle
leaden drift
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You could store 80k of every material prior to making hc

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Then start making all hc

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Of course your data gonna look stupid

heavy sedge
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Someone slide me battery and capsule farms pls🙏

frail trail
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address the elephant in the room

heavy sedge
frail trail
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this wouldn't work after a week or 2

nova lodge
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we need an import data tool for aic report.

heavy sedge
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I got like 3 depot buses

sly dune
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does anyone got blueprints for wuling/jingyu a starter one that DOESNT use depots or require space or shit? checked blueprints channel and havent found useful one
need asia

nova osprey
nova osprey
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it'll drop to 18 batt/min at some point lol

sly dune
nova osprey
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or sorry, rather it will drop to 20 bat per min

viral wharf
leaden drift
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I need to make a new account so I can make small builds

nova osprey
frail trail
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this is like finding the battery in the perpetual machine

leaden drift
leaden drift
nova osprey
subtle finch
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clearly they're mining the originium ore by hand ChenLeak

nova lodge
sly dune
frail trail
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at least they tryed

leaden drift
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I havent been in a small aic for wuling in forever

sly dune
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just finished story

leaden drift
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Like how many players accross

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Planters

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Up and down

nova lodge
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Xiranite production without the need for depot....not the best, but it can work on its own in a corner.
asia

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01a6517e003A1ou5e.

leaden drift
subtle finch
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i made a symmetric one

nova lodge
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for xiranite battery, since its pretty much the same thing as HC battery more or less, i just use HC blueprint.

nova lodge
lone pebble
leaden drift
nova lodge
leaden drift
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Man I should have taken measurements of the sizes

lone pebble
nova lodge
leaden drift
nova lodge
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its not very big really.
he does need to unlock the 1st depot upgrade to make it easier to produce Xiranite battery though.

lone pebble
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with a 40+ over the 560 ! but still !

leaden drift
nova lodge
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meta storaged the loot from wulling, trus :3

leaden drift
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To produce 30 you need to have 5 battery producers running

lone pebble
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read the explain! send it in 2 parts !

nova osprey
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never asked for it

nova lodge
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welp off to do my dailies in the mean time

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.daily

nova osprey
lone pebble
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i cant figure out the belts thats wy i put here , maybe with the help of somewone i can !

leaden drift
nova lodge
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still in chat btw, the benefits of 2 monitor sure is good :3

nova lodge
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.ntpaypal

frail trail
nova lodge
frail trail
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also 600 originium/min is not sustainable

nova osprey
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but they think the math is right because all they see is the <10 min

frail trail
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eh give them like 1 week

viral wharf
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Hoping to have enough of a stockpile for the next Outpost.

nova osprey
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yeah give or take lol

leaden drift
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Im trying to stockpile xiranite

viral wharf
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Next weekly reset ima cut my Xiranite Components down from 0.5/min to 0.33/min to stock up a bit on Xiranite.

leaden drift
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Math aint mathing

lone pebble
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a thing like this ! it`s imposible !! well see 😄

nova osprey
nova osprey
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different than what you're doing

frail trail
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wrong gif

leaden drift
frail trail
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you tried man

subtle finch
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speaking of relays, i followed the trend

leaden drift
viral wharf
leaden drift
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Who needs ziplines when you got squares

nova lodge
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too linear, the pain, the suffering!

leaden drift
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Or the beginnings of one

frail trail
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maybe someone will do hexagon

real crescent
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none of these relays are in funny out of bounds spots either

nova osprey
# vivid shore wth

it was done by bread

iirc you zipline across, but land on "unsafe" ground, then you fall off after starting transmission, then you get tp'd back or smth

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so it's essentially advanced transmission tp tech lol

real crescent
# vivid shore wth

if you fall out of bounds it teleports you to your last valid location. ziplines, machines, out of bounds doesnt count as valid. you can pull a cable during that tp, similiar to a tping to a regular tp point whilst holding a cable

leaden drift
nova lodge
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my head gonna crack if i did that =.=

leaden drift
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But if u ie fall in water

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It tps you near the first legal zipline

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Or land

nova osprey
leaden drift
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That you last touched

sly dune
# nova lodge

i just wanna say thanks... and sorry 😭 at least its temporarily gonna be like this for now until i get enough bills to buy depots

nova lodge
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please let us clip out of bounds in real life too.

nova osprey
leaden drift
nova lodge
leaden drift
sly dune
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ye for now till i be able to have better production/min than this

leaden drift
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I think the only other thing you could do

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Is make meds

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If you have some ferrium

nova lodge
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based on my test, i can determine that the sandleaf used for xiranite with the 2:1 planter : seeder setup will produce excess leafs, so by right, it should still be 30 xiranite even with that blueprint setup.

  • additional sandleaf being collecte in the meantime.

but if something goes wrong with the sandleaf for whatever strange reason....can always remove the protocol stash connected to it.

leaden drift
subtle finch
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what's the cheapest item to send to depot delivery? like power-wise

leaden drift
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Idk about power efficiency

nova lodge
stark osprey
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For wuling it's yahzen or jincao depending on which I click 1st and for Valley 4 whatever is available

nova lodge
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i just send yanzhen for deliveries :v

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since i just use the 2:1 setup because....lazy :3
so i have excess yanzhen.

leaden drift
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In v4 its sandleaf powder in wuling any plant

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U could also do extra steps like shred and or refine then shred

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Granted fast replishment anyways

sly dune
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lol

leaden drift
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Is both planters set to water off?

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Sometimes people forget to turn water off on one side

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And it bricks it

sly dune
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so i just finished story and im gonna be complete honest
unless i have missed some info about this, they dont use water?

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or got a water port?

nova lodge
leaden drift
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Sometimes people forget to turn it off

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V4 plants cant use the water

lusty violet
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sandleaf drops because it looks like you're pulling out of both planters

sly dune
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gotta make another thermal battery for that prob

lusty violet
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one planter/seeder should be a closed loop

nova osprey
nova lodge
craggy whale
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So the way to make energy efficient is basically. Depends how much power u need bcs like 5k+ u need atleast one or two active at short time after it died since it cost u 5 % at 200 power per second. And then the rest can be loop every 64 seconds. Then u need 1 extra bank every 2-5 minutes depends how many power u loss every that 64 second loop

nova osprey
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if you remove one on the right side should be fine

sly dune
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did this ye

lusty violet
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that will still run out of sandleaf, unless your depot is maxed

nova osprey
nova osprey
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it shouldn't no? 30/min in and 30/min out of the system

simple fractal
craggy whale
lusty violet
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you need to feed back into seeder

craggy whale
lusty violet
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accounting for that

nova osprey
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I don't like the setup but I'm not sure if it will run out, unless the game decides to do smth jank with protocol stashes

sly dune
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uh yea? 😭

nova osprey
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previously it was 25 min in and 35 out

nova lodge
nova osprey
leaden drift
nova osprey
craggy whale
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The reason why 3 loop plant is because u need to feed seeder for one of those seed that its gained from seeding the plant. And one can be planter. So thats why you can have 2 planter and 1 planter keep feeding the seeder why the other planter is what u can gain every 2sec

nova osprey
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ah nvm

sly dune
nova lodge
frail trail
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That design technically doesn't lose sandleaf

simple fractal
leaden drift
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Feed directly into the shredder from one side

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Loop the other

frail trail
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Just that the shredder is running at 50% speed

nova osprey
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at first i mean

craggy whale
simple fractal
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Me with my sand-leaf mega farm, this only for wuling too PerliWheeze

frail trail
craggy whale
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It was my newbie experience

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I was also doing that when im starting the game

craggy whale
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And ended lost all those plant there

nova lodge
nova osprey
craggy whale
nova osprey
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there was an issue like that earlier regarding protocol stashes dropping things to 0

craggy whale
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Who knows

nova osprey
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or smth like that

leaden drift
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It is more complicated

sly dune
leaden drift
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Than the normal set up

stray narwhal
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why are these falling asleep all the time? shouldnt they be going on constantly?

nova osprey
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it's just it shouldn't run out since it's 30/min in and 60/min out of the seeder

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but idk

frail trail
craggy whale
viral wharf
leaden drift
craggy whale
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Thats why lost

stray narwhal
craggy whale
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Lets say u put 1 plant on the seeder

stray narwhal
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came back to this

leaden drift
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You dont need the line in red

sly dune
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ah i removed it

craggy whale
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U will lost all plant

nova osprey
stray narwhal
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theoratical data shows it should be self sufficient

sly dune
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there beautiful

stray narwhal
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what is going wrong?

nova osprey
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it depends on which one starts output

craggy whale
nova osprey
craggy whale
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Its just like splitter

nova osprey
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splitters should be 15/min for 2 belts, so I'm not sure what's going on here

craggy whale
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The reason why u will lost plant instead gaining

stray narwhal
nova osprey
stray narwhal
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no idea why it broke, weird

nova osprey
craggy whale
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Test it

leaden drift
craggy whale
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And do it offline wait for a day

nova osprey
craggy whale
nova osprey
nova lodge
# sly dune uh yea? 😭

remove all the red area for now, and you shouldn't have sandleaf issues for your xiranite.
you can use my setup back with the splitter + converger style later once the sandleaf production had been stabilized.

the extra sandleaf production is a bonus, not a must for your xiranite line.

** and also the one connecting between the leaf into the seeder as well, on the left side. **

nova osprey
dense wyvern
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It's just not enough seeds to start efficient loop.

lusty violet
nova osprey
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not at pc

craggy whale
nova osprey
craggy whale
craggy whale
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Bcs i know my phone always die whenever i going outside

leaden drift
dense wyvern
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With seed loopers, you're kinda looping the seeds you put in. So if you put in one seed, it'll take time to travel on the belt too.

craggy whale
lusty violet
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u pple go outside? PerliStare

leaden drift
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I can power a switch and a USB powered screen

craggy whale
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I always bring the 15k

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With 100w speed

stray narwhal
stray narwhal
leaden drift
dense wyvern
craggy whale
dense wyvern
craggy whale
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My battery already 33% ah

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Even im at work

stray narwhal
craggy whale
dense wyvern
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It should.

leaden drift
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Sorting all new seeds to one side

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Maybe power dropped and one side still has a bit more residual power?

dense wyvern
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I think it's just a not enough seed issue.

leaden drift
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They stated they put a stack in

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That should be more than enough

dense wyvern
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I asked if it was fixed. And it seems like it did. PerliStareYou

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The initial picture clearly looked like a lack of seed issue.

nova lodge
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need more of dem seeds :3
plants into seeder!

craggy whale
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1 plant is enuff but it will slowly startef

dense wyvern
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1 plant won't get to full efficiency.

craggy whale
dense wyvern
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It won't.

stray narwhal
craggy whale
subtle finch
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maybe the planter is just tired and need a rest PerliDerp

stray narwhal
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I also put 12 seeds on each planter just in case

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that should be enough

nova lodge
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1 plant works in seeder, but you need to let the loop run for a bit while it duplicates the plant.
good for plants that you had just recently acquired and don't have much of.

just don't collect the product yet until it clogs

dense wyvern
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The thing to understand here is that the loop starts with 1 plant, and actually never gets any new plants added to it. It just loops the old one.

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So if you only loop one plant, the production is delayed by belt travel time.

craggy whale
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Idk the reason

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Let the game cook

lusty violet
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or grow in this case PerliStare

craggy whale
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Idk man

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Ask the game

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It was a long time ago when i still starting the game

nova osprey
dense wyvern
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I'm glad we're still getting more Connect-and-Win stuff.

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But I need new banner to pull.

nova lodge
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please no....i am poor

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gilberta wrang me dry ;v.

nova osprey
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sadness

dense wyvern
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I've been saving up....

nova lodge
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and yvonne sat on me too midway, dem plump arse cause my oroberyl stocks to magically dissapear....

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please let me exchange the aerospace material for oroberyl! PerliWaaaaa

leaden drift
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I need yyvone for ziplines

real crescent
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did you skip lavacakes?

leaden drift
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I have lavacakes

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I have gilberta

nova lodge
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me want lavacakes ;v
but the cake was a lie ;v

real crescent
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why yvonnes for ziplines then?

leaden drift
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I need to lose the 50/50 for yyvone

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The ultimate jump cancel

real crescent
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doesnt need both

leaden drift
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With lavacakes

real crescent
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im doing that just fine with just laevatain

leaden drift
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To get out of bounds?

real crescent
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straight up and then place a zipline on the way down yes

leaden drift
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The way i was told its switching between yyvone and lavacakes

real crescent
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i saw a random bilibili video using only lava and imitated it

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if you want i can send you sth in DMs

leaden drift
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Ye

viral wharf
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Hoping that I pull Xaihi while getting Yvonne.

velvet hemlock
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Im gonna play with only ember

velvet hemlock
viral wharf
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I'll have some really decked out 5 stars if not

nova lodge
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does really need some good luck for 5* as well....

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getting dapan dupes 12 times gonna be painful

real crescent
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wulfgard for me

nova osprey
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i need da pan dupes

real crescent
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most common 5* i got going for gilberta

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i already had him maxed during laevatain

velvet hemlock
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Not akekuri?

real crescent
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i mean shes a 4*

velvet hemlock
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Oh right

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I should check if I got any maxed 5*

sudden night
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Can't I get fluffed jincao seeds the traditional way?

viral wharf
sudden night
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How do you unlock eco farm

nova lodge
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seeds? use seeder
plants? must use eco farm, plant jincao

sudden night
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Which mission?

sudden night
nova lodge
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seed pick regular jincao, make plot via crafting, then plant in eco farm.

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you can get 1-3 fluff jincao via eco farm planting per plot.

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as for the eco farm itself, just walk north east of wulling AIC base.

velvet hemlock
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There are no seeds for special variants is there

nova lodge
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nope, only regular ver.

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though when planted, they give 1-3 of the rare plants + lots of the regular plants.
planting cycles is also shorter than the more special plants like amber rice and ginseng

sudden night
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Wait so how many plots do I need

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And how do I setup

nova lodge
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up to you?
max plot amount with the current update is 20.
you can mix and match based on your preferences.

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you do need to setup pumps and sprinklers as well though, for watering the wulling plant plots.

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i had already made quite a lot of fluff jincao drugs, so i just leave about 6 jincao plots and focus more on ginseng for the remaining plots.

sudden night
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Another question
I don't see fluffed jincao in the plot maker

sterile stag
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i feel very lost when it comes to all the factories and running out of energy with blueprints, i wanna understand myself so i can maybe make my own if needed since the in game guides are so much overexplaining its hard to retain info

nova lodge
nova lodge
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for example, HC batteries consist of 3 parts: sandleaf, steel parts, and dense originum production lines.

strong walrus
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perfect fit on my last relay, that was to close😭

nova lodge
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O.O? one of them is 81 meter though?

sudden night
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I don't understand this set-up for battery.
I copied it from a video but it's so slow that I'm going back to 1.8k for a really long while before I jump to 3.4k

nova osprey
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it dips into red then goes back up

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pwm

sudden night
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So like a recurring current system

sudden night
nova osprey
nova lodge
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you won't, as long as your usage doesn't surpass the limit.

nova osprey
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^

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also you don't need it since you're using close to 1.8k

sudden night
sudden night
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PerliDerp cryston is too slow

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Like 2 per min

nova lodge
nova lodge
sudden night
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Idk what I can change there

nova lodge
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you can adjust your setup a bit i guess.
i am producing cryston parts just fine in V4.

sudden night
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How much is it

nova lodge
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just 1 line, forgot the exact no. but should be 30 per min, if i am correct.

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don't need much cryston parts anyway, since they are only used for zipline towers.

sudden night
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Oh wait

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I mean Xiranite Component

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Not Cryston

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I'm done with cryston

nova lodge
sudden night
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Sorry

nova lodge
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ok, for xiranite components, not too hard as well, you don't need to maximize production for it since you do need the batteries for outpost credits.

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1 dense originum grinder (converted to the cube) + 1 xiranite line should be enough at the start.

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gives 3 per min.

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the issue with wulling is mainly xiranite limitation really.
with that line, you will be consuming 30 per min xiranite for 3 per min components.

sudden night
nova lodge
sudden night
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Xiranite production is so limited

nova lodge
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yeah, xiranite production is the actual bottleneck for wulling.
along with ferrium nodes.

sudden night
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Thanks for the suggestions btw

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I'll go do the farming setup for fluffed jincao

sudden night
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@nova osprey thanks to you too

nova osprey
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aye np

ancient zinc
#

I need more turrets

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Better ones

nova lodge
#

we need mecha summons :3

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lets copy titan fall and yeet them down from dijiang mid battle :3

ancient zinc
#

Rebuild TATA as gundam

nova lodge
#

moe 'android' tata later pops out

real crescent
viral wharf
real crescent
#

the resemblance to the vox engine is striking

ancient zinc
real crescent
#

ngl vehicles would be cool

ancient zinc
#

Lately I was messing at help section asking about OG Arknights NTR PerliWheeze

real crescent
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not cos we need them but cos it would fit the games style

nova lodge
#

perlica nou approve!

ancient zinc
#

They gone wild coz of the word NTR

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The NTR I was referring PerliWheeze

nova lodge
#

⁉️

ancient zinc
#

Everyone thinks I was talking the other NTR thing

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Jabaited

nova lodge
viscid pagoda
#

can I put a machine that auto gathers rare ressource or I have to go there pick them up^

nova lodge
#

you need to pick them up for now.

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once every 3-4 days, depending on your world exploration level.

ancient zinc
#

@nova lodge btw now I know how PC players can get to higher places for unexplained zip line area’s

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Using the micro jump switch

nova lodge
#

yep, leava is a must for the tech.

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some areas is still accessible with just the usual parkour though

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not all of them need the tech

worthy condor
#

Is there any blueprints that anyone has for the liquid that gets rid of the blight in wuling?

nova lodge
bold kernel
#

good afternoon back to the end field grind today

nova lodge
#

don't think you need a BP for that, unless you wanna make tons of bottled xiranite

bold kernel
#

been adding a lot of mods and nsfw mods to star field today to play later if I feel like it

bold kernel
ancient zinc
#

The fact Hypergyph devs now join laws againts leakers

Imagine next is mods / tempering assets

storm junco
#

Bruh i am effing tripping

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You can fill up yahzen with amethys bottle

ancient zinc
nova lodge
#

now we have peps ferrying amesthyst over to wulling....

ancient zinc
#

But not crafting

bold kernel
#

forgot I am trying to make batteries for xurnite

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but not have the matss also for getting more gear crafting

ancient zinc
nova lodge
#

go back to V4 for da bombs.

bold kernel
#

oh nice. have you seen my bomb surplus I did early game

ancient zinc
#

Just making sure…might be in the future we needed them

nova lodge
#

i do have an automated line in V4 for bombs :3,
gib us actual combat use bombs please!

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tactical use bombs

bold kernel
#

now i want a surplus of nukes made by end field industries

ancient zinc
#

Every time someone mentioned bomb

I keep remembering Vyron from Delta force

storm junco
#

Maybe we need cryston bottle?

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Or maybe i dun have enuff amethyst bottle

nova lodge
#

10 parts to 5 filled amesthyst bottles ;v

ancient zinc
#

This is wild

nova lodge
#

i still need my citrome C's in V4 so.....
but if people don't mind manual transferring, its possible to produce another drink lines for more credits / stock up using amesthyst.

frank barn
#

Uhm hello, I just got to AL25 and I really have no idea what I’m doing in most aspects of the game.. the factory is pretty alright for me to figure out but I just really don’t know what I need to focus on or need in general..

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I recently got access to that blue ore

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I don’t have a way to mine it yet tho I don’t think

viral wharf
frank barn
#

Alright

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Uhm what do you mean by gated? Sorry

royal eagle
#

Lvl gate

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You cant progress story till you hit certain lvl

storm junco
#

You can fill any bottle with liquid x.x

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But to make yahzen u need effing ferium

nova lodge
frank barn
storm junco
#

Well the best thing i can think about this.. is portable water

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Unload amethyst bottle into saparating unit.. amethyst bottle goes into depot

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And get reused again

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Thus create an illusion we have unlimited water

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Unlimited water goes into tank

#

Or any filling unit

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If only there a method to produce two bottle in one machine

pastel plume
#

finally caved in, knowing I can recover in time to buy the cheap weekly Artificing stuff

storm junco
#

When the world need him he vanish

shy prairie
#

Is there a recommended layout of factory for new players? Or just play until midgame and worry about factory later on?

shrewd knoll
#

just use up all your ores, theres no recommended layout

#

preferably towards items that outpost buy

hot solar
#

am i fine to just completely cut out the xiranite component production from my factory

icy meteor
bold kernel
#

while exploring the power platoe I found this random quest

pastel plume
#

The quest is worth

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trust

strong walrus
#

finaly found a use for the empty space😌

nova lodge
brave stump
nova osprey
real crescent
#

compacted my syringes cos the initial setup was a hot mess

crimson inlet
#

when does the daily goods actually reset?

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do you buy everything to reset it?

real crescent
#

it doesnt

unreal laurel
real crescent
#

only the stuff thats has a timer resets

crimson inlet
real crescent
#

daily goods is a mistranslation apparently, its more "everyday goods" in the original

crimson inlet
#

so, I can't buy wuling engraving permits

real crescent
shrewd knoll
#

this game would be doing so much better if you could buy 10 HH tickets per week

crimson inlet
#

thank god EmberCopium

shrewd knoll
#

but its not

unreal laurel
#

decifit(x-40)=surplus*40
does this work as an estimate of the battery interval for hc?

real crescent
#

in just over a day

unreal laurel
#

idk,im too tired to think

ivory fern
#

I can finally breathe

(Altho more originium and ferrium would be nice PerlicaNOW)

unreal laurel
#

with the help of meta transfer,u can use up to 115

torn holly
#

Can someone help me understand how to make mining faster?

ivory fern
shrewd knoll
#

unless you want to literally go out and break crystal formations

unreal laurel
#

at max development level,you just create resources from nothing and can send that to wuling

ivory fern
ivory fern
unreal laurel
unreal laurel
true nebula
#

almost a full belt :^)

ivory fern
unreal laurel
ivory fern
#

I thought you had to manually toggle it every hour

#

Since it said the 1h thing hahah

unreal laurel
torn holly
#

Then is there a way I can make it where I have more space?

unreal laurel
ivory fern
unreal laurel
#

wait.....

ivory fern
unreal laurel
#

why tf do i have 2 proto storages

unreal laurel
#

wait....

#

i remember now

unreal laurel
#

the other 5/min goes back into storage so use is only at 115

shrewd knoll
#

you are using it as a glorified splitter/converger

unreal laurel
#

why,i got no clue

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mustve been high or smth

#

if it works,it works

#

should probably turn off transfer mode on it

#

its cutting into my yield

shrewd knoll
#

it only might transfer if the 2 items enter it at same time for one to be stored

unreal laurel
#

Ig

shrewd knoll
#

but that timing is kinda nonexistent

sand pivot
#

guys my HC batteries production line is split in two (dense ferrium and dense originium production lines separate), does the dense originium count in the theoretical data or current data considering I'm storing it in the depot?

shrewd knoll
#

anything with a set recipe and powered is considered theorhetical even if you have no belts leading in or out of it

icy meteor
#

Is there an official app or something for checking the in game stats like factory status?

sand pivot
#

this question is not well formulated but like the dense originium being negative in the theoretical data is it bad? cause I am in the negatives but I logged in to 45k dense originium (also no power nor HC batteries though LOL

nova osprey
shrewd knoll
#

if you have a packaging facility with the HC battery recipe set, its always going to show that its consuming 60 steel parts and 90 originium cubes

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in the theorhetical data

nova osprey
#

whether or not you hit 18/min is another thing though

shrewd knoll
#

even if you are not sending a single resource to it

sand pivot
shrewd knoll
#

because thats the theorhetical data, it doesnt impact you

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its not something to be worried about if you know you are not spending that much

nova osprey
shrewd knoll
#

just ignore it

sand pivot
#

I will send in a bit

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just got off the pc

#

I need to do the math and check it if I am producing enough dense originium tbh

nova osprey
#

aye

sand pivot
#

how much does a belt carry per minute?

unreal laurel
sand pivot
#

60?

unreal laurel
sand pivot
#

30 I think

#

yeah

unreal laurel
#

0.5/sec

sand pivot
#

cause 0.5

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I need to check if I’m producing as much as I need or if I’m producing more than I need

#

I hate the theoretical data it makes me paranoid xD

shrewd knoll
#

it will equalize itself without you trying to optimize it

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by trying to optimize it, you are making a surplus

unreal laurel
shrewd knoll
#

because it needs equal parts ferrium and bottle

#

but you are limiting one of those

#

so it will net a surplus

#

yes so running a deficit is more efficient

unreal laurel
#

if i use 115,it just matches pace doesnt it?

shrewd knoll
#

like your ferrium production is at 100% but you 25 one of your bottles so your bottle isnt running at 100% to keep up

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so the ferrium backs up

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and you will gain ferrium over time because of that

unreal laurel
#

the parts and bottles receive equal parts

shrewd knoll
#

its not very visible because its such a small thing

unreal laurel
#

so 57.5each

sand pivot
#

@nova osprey

unreal laurel
shrewd knoll
#

and you are distrubuting to both the ferrium parts and bottle

nova osprey
sand pivot
#

HC

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and 1 production line of the blue ones

unreal laurel
nova osprey
# sand pivot HC

you have enough steel lines going into each packager? it looks like 1 line per packager rn

viral wharf
#

Yeah I prefer to not drain my Ferrium Ore Stockpile

shrewd knoll
#

yea, most people will just cut the 25 into one place

shrewd knoll
#

which causes them to net a surplus

nova osprey
#

aight

viral wharf
#

Already did that with my Xiranite Stockpile and it can be painful to build them back up

unreal laurel
shrewd knoll
#

but have a deficit, has the exact same outcome

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without the splitting

unreal laurel
#

i thought yall were all abt minmaxing

nova osprey
shrewd knoll
#

not managing it, is kinda min-maxing as well

sand pivot
#

@nova osprey I have 2 more like this

shrewd knoll
#

less work, less space used

nova osprey
viral wharf
real crescent
#

1.5 lines of cubes aswell

sand pivot
#

so basically 2 originium 2 steel per packaging unit?

real crescent
#

quite literally just run all of that into 1 packaging unit

sand pivot
#

or is it supposed to be 3 originium and 2 steel per packaging unit?

real crescent
#

2 lines of parts, 3 lines of cubes is what you need per packaging unit to have full uptime

sand pivot
#

I see, and how many production lines? 3?

real crescent
#

yes

sand pivot
#

will that be enough to keep up 4k power?

real crescent
#

oh, more than enough

sand pivot
#

bet

real crescent
#

even one line at full uptime should be enough if my math is correct

sand pivot
#

better?

real crescent
#

yes

sand pivot
#

should I completely stop producing blue batteries?

#

I won't have enough space to keep producing them

nova osprey
shrewd knoll
#

you can just pull the packaging up

#

you have to space to belt those parts into it

real crescent
#

ye, the purple batteries are better for power and for stockbills compared to the blue ones

viral wharf
# sand pivot <@389246301017210880> I have 2 more like this

As far as trying to reduce the production rate, it is limited by the slowest resource. HC Valley Batteries at 6/min want:

  • 10 Steel Part/10s → 60 Steel Part/min
  • 15 Dense Originium Powder/10s → 90 Dense Originium Powder/min

Each Unloader outputs an item at 30/min. So either using 1 Unloader for Dense Ferrium Powder or 1 & 1/2 Unloaders would half the production of HC Valley Batteries to 3/min, if that for some reason is your goal.

unreal laurel
sand pivot
#

which is kind of stupid cause it wastes more energy

#

for the same amount of batteries

viral wharf
#

Ah yeah.

sand pivot
#

I didn't consider energy consumption, just battery production rate

unreal laurel
#

youre burning more power by having mpre machines

#

pls fix your setup

sand pivot
#

I already did 💀

#

that was the point of this whole conversation lmfao

#

180 dense originium/ minute for the 2 packaging units as it is
how much does one production line of dense originium produce per minute? 30 as well?

#

I am assuming so cause it's 1 every 2 seconds, 60/2 = 30?

real crescent
#

yes

sand pivot
#

so I need 6 production lines to cover what I am spending got it

real crescent
#

youll need 6 lines to keep up

viral wharf
#

As long as it's receiving 30 Sandleaf Powder/min and 60 Originium Powder/min, yes.

sand pivot
#

yeah trying to fix the production rates rn

#

I feel like I am producing more than I actually need

#

YEAH

#

yeah*

#

you reckon I could fit one more production line here if I push the belts towards the outside?

#

I think so cause I'd only need 2 dense originium

shrewd knoll
nova lodge
#

quick note: belts can't be placed outside the AIC area build zone.

sand pivot
#

yeah ik

#

but the depots can tho

digital oasis
sand pivot
#

so you can kind of zigzag the shredders and create more space

nova lodge
#

yeah, as long as the gate of the unloaders remains within the base.

sand pivot
real crescent
#

Little annoying fun fact, bulk move/place doesnt work if something is on the border, even if the machine itself would be fine

shrewd knoll
#

it probably wont matter since you can fit 14 usable unloaders but its for originium cube and 7 is a weird number to try to fit anyway

#

just keep it to multiples of 3

crimson inlet
#

wishing I have laptop now

nova osprey
viral wharf
silent jacinth
#

Can the price of the elastic goods in wulling go up to 5000?

viral wharf
#

If you're reading, the app should have a much better view

viral wharf
silent jacinth
#

I have 4700s right now

shrewd knoll
#

anything can be anywhere between 401-5999

#

just that the low and high are very rare

severe nexus
#

wuling might seem rarer because it has less goods

shrewd knoll
#

probably have some kind of weighted calculation

sand pivot
#

you can fit 14 unloaders, you only need 2 lines of orinium (sandleaf produced on site) so you'd have enough no?

shrewd knoll
viral wharf
crimson inlet
crimson inlet
#

Gdocs website has more features than Gdocs mobile, such as a larger limit size to images and extensions

viral wharf
crimson inlet
#

I wish they made it into a google website form instead of making it into a dedicated app

#

like mobile width support than can be used offline

shrewd knoll
#

just make AI do it and tell them to make the most unhinged website

sand pivot
#

I did it @shrewd knoll although u were right, u can fit 7 production lines but it makes it kind of asymmetrical xD

#

it's triggering my OCD so I think I will keep it somewhat symmetrical and leave 2 unloaders unused

#

it's all clogged because i haven't placed the stashes but yeah

#

just to show

viral wharf
sand pivot
#

at least I managed to keep it somewhat symmetrical

#

like unless you're like looking TOO DEEP into it, you can't spot the difference

#

between both sides

crimson inlet
#

symmetrical

velvet hemlock
# sand pivot

Whai is your production not connected directly to consumers hnnng

tropic plover
#

Chat, where can I find blueprints and use them to pre-build a production chain?

nova lodge
viral wharf
#

Personally, I just made all my Sub-PAC's generate 6 HC Valley Battery/min and my PAC generate 18 Canned Citrome [A]/min.

#

With 24 Canned Citrome [C]/min scattered throughout. Not pretty, but it gets the job done.

tepid wind
viral wharf
turbid gyro
#

MY OCD

sand pivot
#

hey man/ ma'am

#

complain to the devs

#

cause they made the PACs areas uneven

#

💀

turbid gyro
#

you broke the code

sand pivot
#

your honor I'm guilty of being innocent

#

I have done nothing 😔

tepid wind
sand pivot
#

feels good not seeing my report red anymore

#

except for dense ferrium which idk how I will fix considering I have no space kek

velvet hemlock
unreal laurel
viral wharf
#

I did pretty much all my productions from Raw Material to finished Product. No splits.

crystal quail
#

Will my line get clogged up or will the item be able to jump from one line to the other?

viral wharf
sand pivot
#

is 12 HC/ min the max in V4?

viral wharf
sand pivot
#

so I need another production line

crystal quail
jolly shore
crystal quail
#

upsidedown_cry I'll try to condense this even more

sand pivot
#

wish me luck cause I somehow have to fit 2 dense ferrium production lines and 1 dense originium production line in my PACs without space 💀

real marsh
#

wait how did you run out of space

sand pivot
#

when I say space I mean like no bus space for unloaders

#

not like actual space

real marsh
#

are you producing intermediary products like sandleaf powder and unloading that?

sand pivot
#

no I am producing sandleaf to power the machines with a planter seed picker planter to feed the machines

#

instead of wasting space with unloaders

real marsh
#

good, what about the unloaders, do you only unload ore;s ?

sand pivot
#

yes except for bucks A

turbid gyro
#

when is 1.1 sad

sand pivot
#

cause the production line is already big as hell with just the buckflowers

#

let alone if I produce the sandleaf too 💀

real marsh
#

Uuh let me see the bp of mine

#

i got a 45x24 bp for buck A

sand pivot
sand pivot
real marsh
#

ye 24 with 45 long

sand pivot
#

like as in bus depot width

#

can u show me what it looks like? I'm Americas/ EU though

real marsh
#

im on those aswel so its fine, *its not my design i took the bp from leander

crystal quail
sand pivot
#

if you're talking ab planter > seed picker > planter yes, you can see it on the ss I sent

real marsh
#

Coulnd show the bp in full glory cuz i have no space anywhere xd

sand pivot
#

yk what xD

#

I will take it, it's not symmetric like mine but atp idc

#

it's better than having to f around with the few space I have just to fit the dense ferrium and dense originium I need ngl

devout egret
real marsh
#

here is a better pic

#

To save quite a lot of space you can do 2 seeders 3 planters btw

crystal quail
#

This is all for Capsule A?

real marsh
#

Buck A yes

crystal quail
#

I have a blueprint of a Cap A thats 26x36 and you have seprate aut-seed farms

sand pivot
#

but doesn't 1 seeder 1 planter cut the production rate in half tho?

crystal quail
#

I have 2 of the buck berry farms and 2 sanddel (Or maybe 3 and 3 i dont remember)

sand pivot
#

if you remove 1 planter you're gonna produce plants at half the speed, no?

real marsh
#

oh wait nvm im blind

#

he has 2 seeders 4 planters in total but spaced diffrently

#

im used to the planter > seeder > planter design but he has a loop of 2 of them and then placed the actual producing planters somewhere else

sand pivot
#

that’s a lot of belt work he did there

#

but it works 😅

real marsh
#

Want to see something that took a lot of work :#

crystal quail
sand pivot
#

sure send it

real marsh
#

Its my own design this time aswel :)

sand pivot
#

I’m not on PC got off to smoke

#

(don’t smoke btw)

crystal quail
#

I run these separate and this yeilds 6/min (granted not the fastest but its there)

sand pivot
#

but basically I have like 8 production lines of dense ferrium in one

real marsh
#

Here is a outpost that produces 6 HC vall batteries and 24 Citrone [c]

sand pivot
#

holy xD

#

I’m very space inefficient cause I try to keep things somewhat symmetrical

#

some are not but the majority is

real marsh
#

Hey aslong as you have a factory you're satisfied with, thats all that matters

sand pivot
#

I gotta review the sand leaf productions though

#

I’m pretty sure I’m producing more than I need

crystal quail
real marsh
sand pivot
#

that lowkey gave me an idea

sand pivot
#

I’ll put the thermal banks in front of my packaging units that way I save space

#

and depot outputs

crystal quail
real marsh
# crystal quail oh i do LOL

I meant that they have thier own selfcontained farming unit in the production line so they dont take a depot unloader

sand pivot
#

also @crystal quail disable some of the thermal banks you have

#

you are using 3k more energy than you need

#

that’s extra batteries you could sell for stock bills

real marsh
#

^^^^^^^

crystal quail
#

I don't mind the battery waste rn, i still havent finished the mainy story lol

real marsh
#

you only need 2 thermals maybe 3 to run your factory

sand pivot
#

you will mind it soon tho

#

when you actually need bills

#

better save up now than struggle later trust

real marsh
#

Me looking at my factory underpowering it self constanly :)

sand pivot
#

same xD

crystal quail
#

I am also waiting till i get all the mining units running cause i have some that aren't powered yet

real marsh
#

This is fine

#

Averages it self out to my power consumption

real marsh
#

Best seen in a course of a day

#

only 10 Energy waste is a flex

viscid plover
#

yoooo manage to cut it down to 5/min battery

real marsh
lone pebble
sand pivot
#

how many HC for 4k power?

viscid plover
lone pebble
#

after 12h :))

sand pivot
#

I forgot how much they give each

real marsh
#

each one gives like 1.1

lone pebble
#

1.1

real marsh
#

you get 200 from your AIC

#

so like 3.7 or smth

lone pebble
viscid plover
real marsh
#

Im happy with my 7 bat consumption per day

lone pebble
#

well u did :))

real marsh
#

7/h over the course of day

#

not sure if what im saying is even correct

#

KEKW

#

Close enough

crimson inlet
#

I'm down in the rabbit hole of Obsidian Mathjax that I'm adding a plugin to support TikZ diagrams and trying to find a way to add siunitx package in it

#

just for calculating power in wuling

real marsh
#

oopu i have no clue what you're saying

small creek
#

bro just made up a bunch of words on the spot

sand pivot
#

how much bucks A are you guys getting per minute?

#

18?

real marsh
#

18

#

24 [C] 18[A] 18 HC

crimson inlet
#

some shit that renders math formulas in browsers using LaTex thing

real marsh
#

can minmax it if you want but thats to much pain

crimson inlet
real marsh
#

Brother get that math shit out of here