#aic-factory
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Yeah to do 4.5 Syringes/min (90 Ferrium Ore/min), you use 3 Unloaders, with the middle one splitting into both the bottle and parts production.
do your tower defenses, use chracters that give boni. if you have done that, that thats it
optimal setup will produce more than you can sell
It doesn't make less bottle ?
Yeah you can't afford to have it going full speed with only 90 Ferrium Ore/min. Need at least 120 Ferrium/min.
he's saying you don't need to split it evenly. two refineries on both sides will be running at half efficiency
Ooh
- 5 bottles/10s = 30 bottles/min = 60 Ferrium Ore/min
- 10 parts/10s = 60 parts/min = 60 Ferrium Ore/min
- 60 + 60 = 120 Ferrium Ore/min > 90 Ferrium Ore/min
Unloader = 30/min
90 / 30 = 3 Unloaders
Factory needs shift clicking
This is equal split .75 each
i think it will clog at the converger
People kept talking about min max battery, so i decided to join the trend 
sigh yk what nevermind 
noice
it's all fun and game until the power shortage text pop up every 30 seconds

i wish we could mute that lmao
it is so annoying xD
tell me how to implement 30 hc bat with 12 buck a ! leave the belt`s out :)) max i can up with is 24 stable ! at1080 ferr with 690 ori !
you get blind to it, like how your brain ignores seeing your nose
u can !

24 buck a is possible tho, but you will run out of ferrium
if i give the writen ideea think u can implement it ?
the math just doesn't work
write it on a paper
resume: i had published a thesis before!
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in endfield ;3
max originium in valley 4 is 560/min
6 hc/min require 180 originium/min
im not doing that sounds like a pain to manually transfer
should be 180 no?
technically if you consider both side originium/ferrium you can reach 30/min but that's just annoying to do manually
bigger question is why would you need to do this
S) (S) (S) (S) (S) (S) [ G ] [ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BAT 1 ]
(S - Sandleaf) --------/ |
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(S) (S) (S) (S) (S) (S) [ G ] [ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BAT 2 ]
(S - Sandleaf) --------/ |
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... (încă 3 rânduri identice pentru baterii) ..........|............................
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[ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ] [ Fi ][ Fi ][ Fi ] | (Magistrală Steel Parts)
[ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ][ R ] [ Fi ][ Fi ][ Fi ] -------+
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.......................................................|............................
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(S) (S) (S) (S) [ G ] [ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BUCK 1 ]
(S - Lincite) ---------/ |
[ G ] [ G ] [ PACK ] ----> [ IEȘIRE BUCK 2 ]
eh idk
but you typed it
not write it
this is impossible to read lol, at least on mobile

man if you can type it like that why cant you just make the farm yourself 
to tired ! tryed for the past 7h to implement and cant figure out the road`s ways :))

:))
Now ppl write code for this shi 
Im done
u just need to make 20shred, that uses 600 Ori to make 30 bat :)) its possible :))
I can't keep up
30 bat needs 900 originium
not 600
Im not learning coding for this
your math is wrong
that's not even coding that's just random bullshit go
Its basically code
no it's not lol
there are 2 ways to play the game....
the normal way.
or
the 0 sanity way.
Don't you think coding is random bullshit together
i do coding lol, it's my major
we chose sanity :))
i had dabled in many strange fields....including cs....
just an average joe, don't mind me
but it it possible ! if i could manage to make the rate to 24batt/min ;stable fer at 1073 , and ori usage at around 680 ! think it can bedone better ! as some showd in the morning !

let me find the pic , and i`l repost
modular dige appeared ;v
(and i understand none of it)
i can't read that
My brain barely registers it now
600 actual originum ore usage....

Stacked up the materials then did a push for batteries
i was gonna go on mobile to read since i can't read it on my laptop
then explain the flat line of 10 min!!!
Only way it makes sense
i was wrong

10 minutes not enough to deplete 80k
show origicube on that list
true but you still have the TH data , and the flat line dosent lie :))
or whatever the name of that is
We dont have all the data with these images
you're right, the one who's lying is you because it doesn't show the full data lol
is there in the first pic
Alot of important parts are missing
Count me in 0 sanity way 
origicube not originium
i am still playing the normal way....mostly.
Im playing 0 sanity on factory simulator

You dont show any of the pre steps between raw material and hc
You could store 80k of every material prior to making hc
Then start making all hc
Of course your data gonna look stupid
Someone slide me battery and capsule farms pls🙏
address the elephant in the room
I wanna use for valley
this wouldn't work after a week or 2
we need an import data tool for aic report.
check #1461542035617091681
I got like 3 depot buses
does anyone got blueprints for wuling/jingyu a starter one that DOESNT use depots or require space or shit? checked blueprints channel and havent found useful one
need asia
30 batt is also 900/min so there's some cubes stocked up somewhere
Like for making xiranite?
it'll drop to 18 batt/min at some point lol
and wuling battery ye currently
or sorry, rather it will drop to 20 bat per min
Shouldn't be sustainable
I need to make a new account so I can make small builds
it's not, they're trying to do 30 hc and 12 A though 
this is like finding the battery in the perpetual machine
I want to try and make a blue print but im not able to atm
We are finding the battery to the battery
chen levels of factory 
clearly they're mining the originium ore by hand 
the chen way indeed.
or mine blasting :3
its aight, ill suffer tryna make the gears inside my brain work on how to make this while waiting for u to save me 😭
at least they tryed
How big is the space you have
I havent been in a small aic for wuling in forever
wuling like i bought the first expansion
jingyu 0 expansion bought
just finished story
Xiranite production without the need for depot....not the best, but it can work on its own in a corner.
asia
Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01a6517e003A1ou5e.
I just dont know how wide and tall I can make it.
i made a symmetric one
for xiranite battery, since its pretty much the same thing as HC battery more or less, i just use HC blueprint.
defintiely the better + cleaner ver.
here`s the explain :
Unloader Saturation (0.5/s): Each of your 20 Unloaders is pushing 30 units/min. With 20 of them, you are forcing 600 units/min into the system. If your Originium Shredders are 1:1, they are receiving exactly enough to output 30 units of powder per minute per machine.
Will it fit in a 1st upgrade wuling
yes, since it can be placed into a corner, just need to move main AIC.
Man I should have taken measurements of the sizes
The "2+1" Ratio Math: * Need: 1 Grinder needs 2 Ori + 1 Sandleaf.
Input: 600 Originium / 20 Shredders = 30 powder/min per line.
Input: 1 Sandleaf Shredder (with 3 exits) = 3 lines of 10-15 powder/min.
Result: You have enough "fuel" to keep the 15 Grinders running at a pace that generates exactly 30 HC Batteries/min (2 per Grinder).
Its not a forever system its only a "i have stored resources option"
its not very big really.
he does need to unlock the 1st depot upgrade to make it easier to produce Xiranite battery though.
with a 40+ over the 560 ! but still !
Stop lying the math aint mathing
meta storaged the loot from wulling, trus :3
To produce 30 you need to have 5 battery producers running
read the explain! send it in 2 parts !
show the data don't give me this lol
never asked for it
have funnn
i cant figure out the belts thats wy i put here , maybe with the help of somewone i can !
You need 900 originium ore a minute to keep up with delusions
still in chat btw, the benefits of 2 monitor sure is good :3
WHERE'S MY 30K PERLICA
.ntpaypal
you do realize that a hc battery require 3 grinders right?
.paypalnt
also 600 originium/min is not sustainable
it's probably going to the depot and they have a stockpile
but they think the math is right because all they see is the <10 min
eh give them like 1 week
Hoping to have enough of a stockpile for the next Outpost.
yeah give or take lol
You should
Im trying to stockpile xiranite
Next weekly reset ima cut my Xiranite Components down from 0.5/min to 0.33/min to stock up a bit on Xiranite.
Bro talked about how he made a blueprint 13 tall but made it fatter by 2
Math aint mathing
a thing like this ! it`s imposible !! well see 😄
that's not impossible
different than what you're doing
wrong gif
Changing the subject cause you got called out
speaking of relays, i followed the trend
Hell yeah
Where art thou Ziplines
Who needs ziplines when you got squares
Or the beginnings of one
maybe someone will do hexagon
none of these relays are in funny out of bounds spots either
wth
it was done by bread
iirc you zipline across, but land on "unsafe" ground, then you fall off after starting transmission, then you get tp'd back or smth
so it's essentially advanced transmission tp tech lol
if you fall out of bounds it teleports you to your last valid location. ziplines, machines, out of bounds doesnt count as valid. you can pull a cable during that tp, similiar to a tping to a regular tp point whilst holding a cable
You could also zipline to an out of bounds place walk around
my head gonna crack if i did that =.=
using the local geologist to clip out of bounds 
That you last touched
i just wanna say thanks... and sorry 😭 at least its temporarily gonna be like this for now until i get enough bills to buy depots
please let us clip out of bounds in real life too.
that's interesting though
You would be in the back rooms no thank you
looks great
no worries, as long as it works, it works.
glad to be of help.
That should be a good start!
ye for now till i be able to have better production/min than this
based on my test, i can determine that the sandleaf used for xiranite with the 2:1 planter : seeder setup will produce excess leafs, so by right, it should still be 30 xiranite even with that blueprint setup.
- additional sandleaf being collecte in the meantime.
but if something goes wrong with the sandleaf for whatever strange reason....can always remove the protocol stash connected to it.

It would take a bit to ramp up
what's the cheapest item to send to depot delivery? like power-wise
plants
I send sandleaf powder
Idk about power efficiency
yeah, might take about 3 min or so, but it should do its things later without any issue, and free sandleaf too :3
For wuling it's yahzen or jincao depending on which I click 1st and for Valley 4 whatever is available
i just send yanzhen for deliveries :v
since i just use the 2:1 setup because....lazy :3
so i have excess yanzhen.
In v4 its sandleaf powder in wuling any plant
U could also do extra steps like shred and or refine then shred
Granted fast replishment anyways
just as u said that, the sandleaf production loop for some said strange reason ran out?
lol
Is both planters set to water off?
Sometimes people forget to turn water off on one side
And it bricks it
so i just finished story and im gonna be complete honest
unless i have missed some info about this, they dont use water?
or got a water port?
just remove this part, and the sandleaf should pile up and will become a non-issue.
just in case for whatever strange reason the sandleaf suddenly become 0 =.=
after its piled to the max (50 seeds / plants), you can put it back again.
Planters in wuling have a water option for wuling plants
Sometimes people forget to turn it off
V4 plants cant use the water
sandleaf drops because it looks like you're pulling out of both planters
i can make a standalone sandleaf production loop and connect belt from pac that middle part and to uh planter?
gotta make another thermal battery for that prob
one planter/seeder should be a closed loop
oh yeah the problem is you have 3 output and 2 input belts
sure, you can nothing wrong with it.
can adjust based on your needs.
you can always separate plant based production loops apart.
So the way to make energy efficient is basically. Depends how much power u need bcs like 5k+ u need atleast one or two active at short time after it died since it cost u 5 % at 200 power per second. And then the rest can be loop every 64 seconds. Then u need 1 extra bank every 2-5 minutes depends how many power u loss every that 64 second loop
if you remove one on the right side should be fine
did this ye
that will still run out of sandleaf, unless your depot is maxed
should fix it, it's not ideal but it works ig, that gives anxiety
does it?
it shouldn't no? 30/min in and 30/min out of the system
Highly recommend making that into a double
You lost sandleaf instead gaining
you need to feed back into seeder

accounting for that
they're double feeding, splitting two belts on both planters into the picker at 15/min each to 30/min
I don't like the setup but I'm not sure if it will run out, unless the game decides to do smth jank with protocol stashes
uh yea? 😭
previously it was 25 min in and 35 out
remove this red circle part if you want to make a standalone sandleaf production line.
don't do that
no that's gonna break it, look at the left side
The reason why 3 loop plant is because u need to feed seeder for one of those seed that its gained from seeding the plant. And one can be planter. So thats why you can have 2 planter and 1 planter keep feeding the seeder why the other planter is what u can gain every 2sec
wanna avoid this because im barely on loose ends here and dont wanna like use up originium more than i am
Drop the stash
oh yeah lol, didn't see the left side.
i must be colour blind 
That design technically doesn't lose sandleaf
Oh your not in endgame then
Just that the shredder is running at 50% speed
tbh i didn't see it either, i ALWAYS miss them on the yellow lines and get annoyed when I'm trying to tear stuff down and put stuff up lol
at first i mean
It is since it has 2 output each planter

Me with my sand-leaf mega farm, this only for wuling too 
But both planting unit is connected to the seed picking
Not enough sandleaf
yeah, its a very good optimized standard ver. so it just works in every area.
hmm sounds like a calculation bug tbh

there was an issue like that earlier regarding protocol stashes dropping things to 0
Who knows
or smth like that
It is more complicated
fixed ryt?
Than the normal set up
why are these falling asleep all the time? shouldnt they be going on constantly?
it's just it shouldn't run out since it's 30/min in and 60/min out of the seeder
but idk
Planter on the right shouldn't go back into seed picker
The reason bcs every 2 plants sent from seeder u will sent to the seed
You need more Plants in the Seed-Picking Unit or more Seeds in the Planting Unit to start.
Thats why lost
wdym
I filled it up, it was going fine when I logged off a few hours ago
Lets say u put 1 plant on the seeder
came back to this
You dont need the line in red
ah i removed it
U will lost all plant
yeah if you have multiple seeds to start it should be fine though no?
theoratical data shows it should be self sufficient
there beautiful
what is going wrong?
it depends on which one starts output
U will lost one by one
hmm I'll have to test later
Its just like splitter
splitters should be 15/min for 2 belts, so I'm not sure what's going on here
Like the split between lane
The reason why u will lost plant instead gaining
okay I put some more plants, I hope it wont break again
yeah it's 15/15
no idea why it broke, weird
mathwise it shouldn't break that's why imma do some testing later
Test it
That is weird never had that happen to me
And do it offline wait for a day
can't rn, I'll do it later

offline wait is likely due to a bug
remove all the red area for now, and you shouldn't have sandleaf issues for your xiranite.
you can use my setup back with the splitter + converger style later once the sandleaf production had been stabilized.
the extra sandleaf production is a bonus, not a must for your xiranite line.
** and also the one connecting between the leaf into the seeder as well, on the left side. **
I'm outside lol
It's just not enough seeds to start efficient loop.
put a full stack of buckflower in the seeder
not at pc
Bro i always bring power bank everytime i goibg outside
damn
I have a 60k mah one
With seed loopers, you're kinda looping the seeds you put in. So if you put in one seed, it'll take time to travel on the belt too.
Its too heavy
u pple go outside? 
I can power a switch and a USB powered screen
I did
yeah idk why it happened
Along with like 4 20k mah ones
Did it fix it?
See

yeah hope it stays fixed

It should.
If i were to guess it could be a sorting glitch
Sorting all new seeds to one side
Maybe power dropped and one side still has a bit more residual power?
I think it's just a not enough seed issue.
I asked if it was fixed. And it seems like it did. 
The initial picture clearly looked like a lack of seed issue.
Is it full?
need more of dem seeds :3
plants into seeder!
1 plant is enuff but it will slowly startef
1 plant won't get to full efficiency.
It will just slowly started
It won't.
I put like 20

maybe the planter is just tired and need a rest 
1 plant works in seeder, but you need to let the loop run for a bit while it duplicates the plant.
good for plants that you had just recently acquired and don't have much of.
just don't collect the product yet until it clogs
The thing to understand here is that the loop starts with 1 plant, and actually never gets any new plants added to it. It just loops the old one.
So if you only loop one plant, the production is delayed by belt travel time.
I mean it somehow doubles when i going offline

Idk the reason
Let the game cook
or grow in this case 
it's probably due to optimizations that they do serverside
I'm glad we're still getting more Connect-and-Win stuff.
But I need new banner to pull.

sadness
I've been saving up....
and yvonne sat on me too midway, dem plump arse cause my oroberyl stocks to magically dissapear....
please let me exchange the aerospace material for oroberyl! 
I need yyvone for ziplines
did you skip lavacakes?
me want lavacakes ;v
but the cake was a lie ;v
why yvonnes for ziplines then?
doesnt need both
With lavacakes
im doing that just fine with just laevatain
To get out of bounds?
straight up and then place a zipline on the way down yes
i saw a random bilibili video using only lava and imitated it
if you want i can send you sth in DMs
Ye
Hoping that I pull Xaihi while getting Yvonne.
Im gonna play with only ember
That'd be hilarious, though probably impossible
I'll have some really decked out 5 stars if not
does really need some good luck for 5* as well....
getting dapan dupes 12 times gonna be painful
wulfgard for me
i need da pan dupes
Not akekuri?
i mean shes a 4*
Can't I get fluffed jincao seeds the traditional way?
Nope, only from Wild Crops and Wuling Eco Farm.
How do you unlock eco farm
seeds? use seeder
plants? must use eco farm, plant jincao
Which mission?
Seed picking station ain't seed picking
seed pick regular jincao, make plot via crafting, then plant in eco farm.
you can get 1-3 fluff jincao via eco farm planting per plot.
as for the eco farm itself, just walk north east of wulling AIC base.
There are no seeds for special variants is there
nope, only regular ver.
though when planted, they give 1-3 of the rare plants + lots of the regular plants.
planting cycles is also shorter than the more special plants like amber rice and ginseng
up to you?
max plot amount with the current update is 20.
you can mix and match based on your preferences.
you do need to setup pumps and sprinklers as well though, for watering the wulling plant plots.
i had already made quite a lot of fluff jincao drugs, so i just leave about 6 jincao plots and focus more on ginseng for the remaining plots.
I see
Thanks
Another question
I don't see fluffed jincao in the plot maker
i feel very lost when it comes to all the factories and running out of energy with blueprints, i wanna understand myself so i can maybe make my own if needed since the in game guides are so much overexplaining its hard to retain info
just make regular jincao plot.
use regular jincao seeds.
each planted plots will give you 1-3 fluff jincao + the regular jincao.
just do each part 1 by 1, understand what each part does.
ignore the PWM stuff....those are black magic realm :v
for example, HC batteries consist of 3 parts: sandleaf, steel parts, and dense originum production lines.
perfect fit on my last relay, that was to close😭
O.O? one of them is 81 meter though?
I don't understand this set-up for battery.
I copied it from a video but it's so slow that I'm going back to 1.8k for a really long while before I jump to 3.4k
that's the point
it dips into red then goes back up
pwm
But what if I go completely out of power within the time
sort of
you won't, as long as your usage doesn't surpass the limit.
The limit with this system on?
I might
I'll setup the farms and another cryston plan if I can
cryston is too slow
Like 2 per min
yep, you need to check your power graph to make sure everything is ok though.
the idea of PWM is to limit usage to yield maximum battery gains
just setup your crystons back in V4.....
Valley 4 is choking rn with 18/min buck A and HC battery
Idk what I can change there
you can adjust your setup a bit i guess.
i am producing cryston parts just fine in V4.
How much is it
just 1 line, forgot the exact no. but should be 30 per min, if i am correct.
don't need much cryston parts anyway, since they are only used for zipline towers.

ok, for xiranite components, not too hard as well, you don't need to maximize production for it since you do need the batteries for outpost credits.
1 dense originum grinder (converted to the cube) + 1 xiranite line should be enough at the start.
gives 3 per min.
the issue with wulling is mainly xiranite limitation really.
with that line, you will be consuming 30 per min xiranite for 3 per min components.
My line is creating like 1/min
then that is good enough, let it run for a bit.
Xiranite production is so limited
yeah, xiranite production is the actual bottleneck for wulling.
along with ferrium nodes.
90 ferrium really hurts
@nova osprey thanks to you too
aye np
The thing hurts me more..is lack of fire power
I need more turrets
Better ones
we need mecha summons :3
lets copy titan fall and yeet them down from dijiang mid battle :3
i have a feeling this was made by a helldiver player
Tbh with your current Power Usage, you don't really need extended power output right now.
the resemblance to the vox engine is striking
ngl vehicles would be cool
Lately I was messing at help section asking about OG Arknights NTR 
not cos we need them but cos it would fit the games style
can I put a machine that auto gathers rare ressource or I have to go there pick them up^
you need to pick them up for now.
once every 3-4 days, depending on your world exploration level.
@nova lodge btw now I know how PC players can get to higher places for unexplained zip line area’s
Using the micro jump switch
yep, leava is a must for the tech.
some areas is still accessible with just the usual parkour though
not all of them need the tech
Is there any blueprints that anyone has for the liquid that gets rid of the blight in wuling?
my mind gonna explode with that tech =.=
good afternoon back to the end field grind today
no? just connect xiranite + water in reactor crucible = xiranite water (connect that to a fluid tank for use)
don't think you need a BP for that, unless you wanna make tons of bottled xiranite
been adding a lot of mods and nsfw mods to star field today to play later if I feel like it
Ur own risk 
that is a Bethesda game I am referring too
The fact Hypergyph devs now join laws againts leakers
Imagine next is mods / tempering assets
U can use any bottles to fill up purposes
now we have peps ferrying amesthyst over to wulling....
But not crafting
forgot I am trying to make batteries for xurnite
but not have the matss also for getting more gear crafting
Been doing it to make bombs

oh nice. have you seen my bomb surplus I did early game
i do have an automated line in V4 for bombs :3,
gib us actual combat use bombs please!
tactical use bombs
now i want a surplus of nukes made by end field industries
10 parts to 5 filled amesthyst bottles ;v
i still need my citrome C's in V4 so.....
but if people don't mind manual transferring, its possible to produce another drink lines for more credits / stock up using amesthyst.
Uhm hello, I just got to AL25 and I really have no idea what I’m doing in most aspects of the game.. the factory is pretty alright for me to figure out but I just really don’t know what I need to focus on or need in general..
I recently got access to that blue ore
I don’t have a way to mine it yet tho I don’t think
Mainly just focus the main story. Once your gated, upgrade your factory to produce what your current Outposts want.

Thank you
Well the best thing i can think about this.. is portable water
Unload amethyst bottle into saparating unit.. amethyst bottle goes into depot
And get reused again
Thus create an illusion we have unlimited water
Unlimited water goes into tank
Or any filling unit
If only there a method to produce two bottle in one machine
finally caved in, knowing I can recover in time to buy the cheap weekly Artificing stuff
nice
When the world need him he vanish
Is there a recommended layout of factory for new players? Or just play until midgame and worry about factory later on?
just use up all your ores, theres no recommended layout
preferably towards items that outpost buy
beautiful
am i fine to just completely cut out the xiranite component production from my factory
yes
finaly found a use for the empty space😌

Do the bad apple factory
hmm i wonder who you like
compacted my syringes cos the initial setup was a hot mess
it doesnt
helo
only the stuff thats has a timer resets

daily goods is a mistranslation apparently, its more "everyday goods" in the original
those reset weekly
this game would be doing so much better if you could buy 10 HH tickets per week
thank god 
but its not
decifit(x-40)=surplus*40
does this work as an estimate of the battery interval for hc?
in just over a day
idk,im too tired to think
I can finally breathe
(Altho more originium and ferrium would be nice
)
interesting setup
whys your ferrium use only at 90
with the help of meta transfer,u can use up to 115
Can someone help me understand how to make mining faster?
Yeah but isn’t meta manual? I don’t think you can make it continuously pump resources from Valley IV
no,thats regional transfer
not something you can personally control
unless you want to literally go out and break crystal formations
at max development level,you just create resources from nothing and can send that to wuling
I believe when you upgrade env level it makes ore purity better and you mine more ore per min
But even if I choose meta it caps at 1500 and says 1h till transfer?
its like 1500/hr or smth which adds 25/min to your yield
it keeps auto transfering that every hr
almost a full belt :^)
Oh 
you didnt know?
heres an example setup of what 115/hr looks like in practice
Then is there a way I can make it where I have more space?
wdym more space
Yeah 4 belts makes sense, since its around 30/min per belt
wait.....
Also what is that to the right 🥀
why tf do i have 2 proto storages
idk man,mustve been high on smth when i made it
wait....
i remember now
im using a proto storage to combine the 25/min back into 1 belt
the other 5/min goes back into storage so use is only at 115
you are using it as a glorified splitter/converger
yes
why,i got no clue
mustve been high or smth
if it works,it works
should probably turn off transfer mode on it
its cutting into my yield
it only might transfer if the 2 items enter it at same time for one to be stored
Ig
but that timing is kinda nonexistent
guys my HC batteries production line is split in two (dense ferrium and dense originium production lines separate), does the dense originium count in the theoretical data or current data considering I'm storing it in the depot?
anything with a set recipe and powered is considered theorhetical even if you have no belts leading in or out of it
Is there an official app or something for checking the in game stats like factory status?
this question is not well formulated but like the dense originium being negative in the theoretical data is it bad? cause I am in the negatives but I logged in to 45k dense originium (also no power nor HC batteries though LOL
negative theoretical means that your factory is running inefficiently
if you have a packaging facility with the HC battery recipe set, its always going to show that its consuming 60 steel parts and 90 originium cubes
in the theorhetical data
whether or not you hit 18/min is another thing though
even if you are not sending a single resource to it
I do have the recipe set but like idk why I’m not producing enough dense originium according to the theoretical data but I logged in with max in my depot (45k)
because thats the theorhetical data, it doesnt impact you
its not something to be worried about if you know you are not spending that much
you'd have to send a photo of your aic report
theoretical doesn't mean actual, actual could be lower
just ignore it
I will send in a bit
just got off the pc
I need to do the math and check it if I am producing enough dense originium tbh
aye
how much does a belt carry per minute?
how optimised are ppl making their 115 setups?
60?
30
0.5/sec
cause 0.5
I need to check if I’m producing as much as I need or if I’m producing more than I need
I hate the theoretical data it makes me paranoid xD
most people are using that ferrium to make a single thing, it doesnt matter if you optimize it or not
it will equalize itself without you trying to optimize it
by trying to optimize it, you are making a surplus
you mean running a decifit
because it needs equal parts ferrium and bottle
but you are limiting one of those
so it will net a surplus
yes so running a deficit is more efficient
im not following
if i use 115,it just matches pace doesnt it?
like your ferrium production is at 100% but you 25 one of your bottles so your bottle isnt running at 100% to keep up
so the ferrium backs up
and you will gain ferrium over time because of that
it doesnt in mine
the parts and bottles receive equal parts
its not very visible because its such a small thing
so 57.5each
@nova osprey
feels alot better than running a decifit imo
and you are distrubuting to both the ferrium parts and bottle
what batteries are you making?
yes,so they both match the same output
you have enough steel lines going into each packager? it looks like 1 line per packager rn
Yeah I prefer to not drain my Ferrium Ore Stockpile
yea, most people will just cut the 25 into one place
I will show u
which causes them to net a surplus
aight
Already did that with my Xiranite Stockpile and it can be painful to build them back up
the inefficiency.....
i thought yall were all abt minmaxing
it's not inefficient bc the only input that matters is the packager/bottles
not managing it, is kinda min-maxing as well
@nova osprey I have 2 more like this
less work, less space used
yeah each packager needs one more steel line
Is that in Valley IV? Shouldn't have to run anything below 100% there.
1.5 lines of cubes aswell
so basically 2 originium 2 steel per packaging unit?
quite literally just run all of that into 1 packaging unit
or is it supposed to be 3 originium and 2 steel per packaging unit?
2 lines of parts, 3 lines of cubes is what you need per packaging unit to have full uptime
I see, and how many production lines? 3?
yes
will that be enough to keep up 4k power?
oh, more than enough
bet
even one line at full uptime should be enough if my math is correct
better?
yes
should I completely stop producing blue batteries?
I won't have enough space to keep producing them
perfect
ye, the purple batteries are better for power and for stockbills compared to the blue ones
As far as trying to reduce the production rate, it is limited by the slowest resource. HC Valley Batteries at 6/min want:
- 10 Steel Part/10s → 60 Steel Part/min
- 15 Dense Originium Powder/10s → 90 Dense Originium Powder/min
Each Unloader outputs an item at 30/min. So either using 1 Unloader for Dense Ferrium Powder or 1 & 1/2 Unloaders would half the production of HC Valley Batteries to 3/min, if that for some reason is your goal.
3originium
I mean my thought was to cut it down in half and have 4 packaging units instead of 2
which is kind of stupid cause it wastes more energy
for the same amount of batteries
Ah yeah.
I didn't consider energy consumption, just battery production rate
I already did 💀
that was the point of this whole conversation lmfao
180 dense originium/ minute for the 2 packaging units as it is
how much does one production line of dense originium produce per minute? 30 as well?
I am assuming so cause it's 1 every 2 seconds, 60/2 = 30?
yes
so I need 6 production lines to cover what I am spending got it
youll need 6 lines to keep up
As long as it's receiving 30 Sandleaf Powder/min and 60 Originium Powder/min, yes.
yeah trying to fix the production rates rn
I feel like I am producing more than I actually need
YEAH
yeah*
you reckon I could fit one more production line here if I push the belts towards the outside?
I think so cause I'd only need 2 dense originium
you can fit more if you dont unload the sandleaf and made it on site
quick note: belts can't be placed outside the AIC area build zone.
yeah it only works on 2 of the sub plots
so you can kind of zigzag the shredders and create more space
yeah, as long as the gate of the unloaders remains within the base.
I might do that cause I am producing them in the same area as the dense originium either way
Little annoying fun fact, bulk move/place doesnt work if something is on the border, even if the machine itself would be fine
it probably wont matter since you can fit 14 usable unloaders but its for originium cube and 7 is a weird number to try to fit anyway
just keep it to multiples of 3
wishing I have laptop now
damn that's dedication
Are you editing that from your phone?
Can the price of the elastic goods in wulling go up to 5000?
If you're reading, the app should have a much better view
Seems a lot more rare than Valley IV. Personally settle for anything above 4550.
I have 4700s right now
wuling might seem rarer because it has less goods
probably have some kind of weighted calculation
what does that mean?
you can fit 14 unloaders, you only need 2 lines of orinium (sandleaf produced on site) so you'd have enough no?
it means you should use up all your sandleaf into 3 grinders instead of wasting them and making more of it
3, 6, 9, 12, etc. Produce the Dense Originium Powder in batches of 3.
yes
ah got it
will do so
Gdocs website has more features than Gdocs mobile, such as a larger limit size to images and extensions
It's frustrating working with Google Office on mobile for sure.
I wish they made it into a google website form instead of making it into a dedicated app
like mobile width support than can be used offline
just make AI do it and tell them to make the most unhinged website
I did it @shrewd knoll although u were right, u can fit 7 production lines but it makes it kind of asymmetrical xD
it's triggering my OCD so I think I will keep it somewhat symmetrical and leave 2 unloaders unused
it's all clogged because i haven't placed the stashes but yeah
just to show
Yup, that's what they meant by multiples of 3.
yeah I found out a tad too late but it's fine 😭
at least I managed to keep it somewhat symmetrical
like unless you're like looking TOO DEEP into it, you can't spot the difference
between both sides
symmetrical
Whai is your production not connected directly to consumers hnnng
Chat, where can I find blueprints and use them to pre-build a production chain?
They split their production in 2 parts.
Personally, I just made all my Sub-PAC's generate 6 HC Valley Battery/min and my PAC generate 18 Canned Citrome [A]/min.
With 24 Canned Citrome [C]/min scattered throughout. Not pretty, but it gets the job done.

Why so much Origocrust
to max out some facilities 
feels good not seeing my report red anymore
except for dense ferrium which idk how I will fix considering I have no space kek
You can fit most production in your main pac!
I do that but I split the Cs among the first 2 sub pacs
Yeah, but I wanted to do it without copying a blueprint, but also without consuming too much time as that's more time spent not generating resources.
I did pretty much all my productions from Raw Material to finished Product. No splits.
Will my line get clogged up or will the item be able to jump from one line to the other?
The Grinding Unit on the left will just have its products go no where.
is 12 HC/ min the max in V4?
18/min
so I need another production line
Thank you, i was going off a photo and was like "huh that looks off"
IIRC one HC setup should yield 6/min and you can make 3 of those, but you'll have to use some HC to power the place so your net will be lower
yeah
I'll try to condense this even more
wish me luck cause I somehow have to fit 2 dense ferrium production lines and 1 dense originium production line in my PACs without space 💀
wait how did you run out of space
are you producing intermediary products like sandleaf powder and unloading that?
3 bucks A production lines, 3 HC battery production lines and its components + a bunch of sandleaf production lines to power the machines
no I am producing sandleaf to power the machines with a planter seed picker planter to feed the machines
instead of wasting space with unloaders
good, what about the unloaders, do you only unload ore;s ?
yes except for bucks A
when is 1.1 
cause the production line is already big as hell with just the buckflowers
let alone if I produce the sandleaf too 💀
24 width?
ye 24 with 45 long
im on those aswel so its fine, *its not my design i took the bp from leander
You have auto-seed farms right?
wym by that?
if you're talking ab planter > seed picker > planter yes, you can see it on the ss I sent
Coulnd show the bp in full glory cuz i have no space anywhere xd
yk what xD
I will take it, it's not symmetric like mine but atp idc
it's better than having to f around with the few space I have just to fit the dense ferrium and dense originium I need ngl
March and it'll be when yvonne banner ends for more specific date.
here is a better pic
To save quite a lot of space you can do 2 seeders 3 planters btw
This is all for Capsule A?
Buck A yes
I have a blueprint of a Cap A thats 26x36 and you have seprate aut-seed farms
but doesn't 1 seeder 1 planter cut the production rate in half tho?
I have 2 of the buck berry farms and 2 sanddel (Or maybe 3 and 3 i dont remember)
if you remove 1 planter you're gonna produce plants at half the speed, no?
oh wait nvm im blind
he has 2 seeders 4 planters in total but spaced diffrently
im used to the planter > seeder > planter design but he has a loop of 2 of them and then placed the actual producing planters somewhere else
Want to see something that took a lot of work :#
What do your sub factories look like? I don't wanna but in but i think i can help a bit?
sure send it
Its my own design this time aswel :)
I can’t show rn
I’m not on PC got off to smoke
(don’t smoke btw)
I run these separate and this yeilds 6/min (granted not the fastest but its there)
but basically I have like 8 production lines of dense ferrium in one
Here is a outpost that produces 6 HC vall batteries and 24 Citrone [c]
holy xD
I’m very space inefficient cause I try to keep things somewhat symmetrical
some are not but the majority is
Hey aslong as you have a factory you're satisfied with, thats all that matters
I gotta review the sand leaf productions though
I’m pretty sure I’m producing more than I need
I just finished my 6HCV too (actual pain)
yo congratz, I would say the next step for you is to get the sandleaf farm to be selfsustaining
that lowkey gave me an idea
oh i do LOL
I’ll put the thermal banks in front of my packaging units that way I save space
and depot outputs
I meant that they have thier own selfcontained farming unit in the production line so they dont take a depot unloader
also @crystal quail disable some of the thermal banks you have
you are using 3k more energy than you need
that’s extra batteries you could sell for stock bills
^^^^^^^
I don't mind the battery waste rn, i still havent finished the mainy story lol
you only need 2 thermals maybe 3 to run your factory
you will mind it soon tho
when you actually need bills
better save up now than struggle later trust
Me looking at my factory underpowering it self constanly :)
same xD
I am also waiting till i get all the mining units running cause i have some that aren't powered yet
oh my
yoooo manage to cut it down to 5/min battery
Holy congratz also how the hell are you running 30 HC val bats
manage to replicate 😄
how many HC for 4k power?
just burning some extra ori
after 12h :))
I forgot how much they give each
each one gives like 1.1
1.1
but pls dont make me do this again :)) head hurt`s !
i didn't make you do anything
well u did :))
7/h over the course of day
not sure if what im saying is even correct
KEKW
Close enough
I'm down in the rabbit hole of Obsidian Mathjax that I'm adding a plugin to support TikZ diagrams and trying to find a way to add siunitx package in it
just for calculating power in wuling
oopu i have no clue what you're saying
bro just made up a bunch of words on the spot
some shit that renders math formulas in browsers using LaTex thing
can minmax it if you want but thats to much pain
Brother get that math shit out of here






