aic-factory

[gilded bluff]

I make so much buck A all parts and gear I need, and legit have not alot of things to do with the PAC

I NEED MORE ORE SPOTS!

[small creek]

i think the extra space is just to give ppl who arent good at designing some room for error

[unreal laurel]

exactly

my setups are like 1-3tiles off optimised but its close enough

and some ppl are even worse so they definitely need the extra space

[small creek]

my setups are really good

[gilded bluff]

I guess so, but most of my bps are from @willow birch and hes cracked with making compact and good designs

[lone pebble]

need an engenier to explain this to me ! pls and wy its working ! ?and the ferr is still going up !

[small creek]

did u have to ping them lol

[gilded bluff]

I guess I didnt

Mb gng

[small creek]

the maximum is 18/18 and youre making 16/24

[gilded bluff]

Im feeling sleep deprieved rn

[small creek]

at some point you will run out of ferrium and be found dead in a ditch

[lone pebble]

oscilate 15/16 at BUck A !

[gilded bluff]

I have ran out of amethyst once

Like many times

[small creek]

Absolutely useless

[small creek]

24 is too far of an offset

[lone pebble]

but curent data dose not lie ! :))

[gilded bluff]

Didya get all ferrium spots?

Including the wulfguard one?

[lone pebble]

ya

[small creek]

yeah your current data 8 hours later also wont lie

[lone pebble]

but still ! dont mind the TH !

it gone down to 1083 !

86 oscilating ! how do i lower it with 6/3 on oscilation to remain same not afecting the buck A prod ! ?

[small totem]

Why can't this happen in Wuling instead.... this weird problem that i've

[small creek]

unless u oscillate ferrium between 1086 and 1074, this setup wont last long

[lone pebble]

its oscillating 86 to 83 !

[gilded bluff]

Wuling is like cut in half

So wait for more ore spots and places to put stuff down on

[lone pebble]

want to figure out how to lower the oscillation under 80 !

but still maintaning this

or maybe oscilating the bat instead ! from 24 straight to 23/24 !

[atomic fiber]

usually you reduce the Buck A, not battery

since Buck A give less valley stock bill per Ferrium usage

[lone pebble]

the price is the same !

[atomic fiber]

for 1 yes, but you need more Ferrium and more power consumption to make Buck A

[analog elbow]

[lone pebble]

hmm !

[atomic fiber]

bricc

[lone pebble]

cloging finaally somes usefull !

[analog elbow]

I play in Hyper Headquarters

[small totem]

i can't save from buying every this shit every week

[glad needle]

i have 5.3m and i might as well buy out the tickets xd

[lone pebble]

sence i reduce the out of the B.A. at some point with the other fac lines , will get cloged !

[analog elbow]

Welp time to shower

I'm a baby burden beast

[lone pebble]

that will mean , that the time is cloged , till get`s "un"cloged will stabilize the Ferr usage ! on the output !

[analog elbow]

If I'm a baby. Then she must Breastfeed me

[atomic fiber]

[glad needle]

https://tenor.com/view/rigby-freaky-cat-cat-meme-tongue-out-gif-1492882876567450372

[atomic fiber]

[analog elbow]

[lone pebble]

and still maintaining the rate , at buck a oscilating 15/16 ! hmm !

hmm let me clog the line`s and il be right bk

[pastel plume]

gotta try the HC V4 on Wuling to see if importing stuff would be a better option

because I will eventually have nothing to buy on V4

[dense wyvern]

way too much battery

[pastel plume]

dw I shutted off the Wuling version

[analog elbow]

Worth
I use HC as my 2nd thermal with minmax

[dense wyvern]

At this point I even have too much Wuling battery...

[analog elbow]

We haven't unlocked wuling's full potential

So gotta be prepared

[dense wyvern]

I dunno.....

[pastel plume]

am selling the LCW batts

I want that pillar before Fangyi comes

[dense wyvern]

I'm expecting new stuff after Yvonne banner.

[analog elbow]

We should unlock Tang tang's home next update

[dense wyvern]

But at this point I already have to store wuling batteries in V4.

[analog elbow]

Maybe the final parts of Wuling too

[dense wyvern]

[calm crow]

Rossi banner when

[analog elbow]

Maybe 1.1

[lone pebble]

mange to drop it , but to much ! bleaaahhh

[dense wyvern]

I kinda expect Tangtang and Mifu first.

[pastel plume]

oh nvm I have to redo the dige setup just for V4s

[analog elbow]

They did come first

[dense wyvern]

They need characters who do well in Wuling Outposts.

[analog elbow]

Confirmed i meant

[limber iris]

Looks correct?

[analog elbow]

Wulfgard is the only one so far

With 2 Skills activated

[atomic fiber]

Just try it for 3 hours. if your factory died that mean you are doing something wrong

[analog elbow]

Creating your own is more fun tho

[limber iris]

Unless I stare at it for 3hrs, how can I tell that I ran out of power? The grid report is hella confusing in locating that info.

[analog elbow]

Just hope it works then

[atomic fiber]

logout, do other things, then after around 3 hours login again, see if your factory bricked or not

[limber iris]

I mean if I login and it has like say 40% power how would I know it bricked say like 10mins ago?

Or as long as it not 0% when i login its all good?

[atomic fiber]

if it alive that mean it working

[atomic fiber]

yes

[lone pebble]

what a mess ! still under !!! oscilating 14/16 !

[fossil spoke]

@limber iris u should use the shortest period on the solutions DIGE provided

and the lowest number of branch too if possible

so it will be easier to monitor

[limber iris]

Yes, the solution is only 1 branch and this is the only solution it gave

[fossil spoke]

but, if u built it correctly, it should work as it is

since the DIGE algorithm quite strict (eliminating solutions that touch 0)

[fossil spoke]

what the duration for that cycle ?

[fossil spoke]

also, that graph is quite short

[limber iris]

I have no idea, I just copied the layout on the site Im new to this

[fossil spoke]

so its like few minutes

[fossil spoke]

the number details

above the graph

this things

[limber iris]

1:12 is that it? How to extend the graph?

[fossil spoke]

thats indeed short

u can just ss this section

[limber iris]

here

[fossil spoke]

yep the whole cycle is 1 minute 12 seconds

[limber iris]

What does that even mean?

so after 1:12seconds I can actually tell if its falling apart or not?

[fossil spoke]

the pwm cycle

see, here's the thing, PWM cycle is not like sine wave, which has same high and low point for each graph / t

but it has a pattern / loop / cycle instead

[tropic gale]

https://youtube.com/shorts/V-H1-aRRLqw?si=UHjWPmtC9_66SiAo

[fossil spoke]

like these example

it is indeed similar (between each up and down for some section)

but that is 1 cycle

while sine wave is constant this

[limber iris]

Before anything else, I just need to know if I made the layout corretly

[fossil spoke]

yeah its correct

[limber iris]

since the fuel return is not the same exact tile as what is in DIGE, I needed to add a belt as the loader distance is different

[fossil spoke]

it wouldnt have problem if it doesnt clog

[limber iris]

It probably cant clog since there is a unloader

Up to it says minmpower 80.8%

[fossil spoke]

that means ur battery reserve will touch 80.8% on its lowest points

(when the pwm in off period)

[limber iris]

Ah this is assumed I started the loop at 100% correct?

[fossil spoke]

well, u didnt need to start the loop at 100%

since DIGE has waste wattage

that can charge the reserve

[limber iris]

I see, could be just any number even totally 0%

[fossil spoke]

yeah

but

if possible, just start from 100

for stability

[limber iris]

Yeah sounds like a good plan if it does not drop under 79%

then its golden

[fossil spoke]

since starting from a 0%, with a small waste wattage, will take a long time to charge

[limber iris]

I actually started this at maybe 4% lol

Imma manually drop in 1 battery

[fossil spoke]

oh anyway

dont forget the constant 1 thermal batt

in this example this

[limber iris]

Yes, I do have 1x constant in my CORE AIC

[fossil spoke]

for ur case is this

good

[limber iris]

I also made a protocol stash version which I like how it looks, seems correct?

[lone pebble]

well how to put it , if it works dont touch it :))

[fossil spoke]

if possible, dont give belt space between the splitter

[limber iris]

Do they mess up the timing?

[fossil spoke]

the building u adjust should be the stash one

yeah

just nudge the bottom stash 1 block lower (and connect the 1st and 2nd splitter to stash via belt)

so the 3rd splitter wouldnt connect to bottom stash

[marble yarrow]

Actually a space doesnt really mess the timing between cycles

[fossil spoke]

the space between the splitter does

just avoid touching the splitter line

[limber iris]

So like this?

[fossil spoke]

u can touch the output / return line

[limber iris]

The belts to the thermal bank, do they mess shit up?

[fossil spoke]

iirc no

[marble yarrow]

Ive done a couple of separated splitter systems before and its still same. Ive even used stopwatch to confirm it

[lone pebble]

stahs , needs 3 in 3 out !

[fossil spoke]

and it also behave correctly when offline ?

[marble yarrow]

Yes ofc

[fossil spoke]

but why not just follow DIGE solution..

i mean

its just 1 block row

[limber iris]

Sorry, what do you mean? Did I miss anything?

[fossil spoke]

no need btw

1 out from stash configuration is enough

[marble yarrow]

Because i dont have to. Im not a dige shiller

[craggy whale]

@severe nexus i can make it only 1 output

[fossil spoke]

easy there

[limber iris]

@fossil spoke is this now okay?

[severe nexus]

wdym

[fossil spoke]

should be

[craggy whale]

still 1/40 sec

[severe nexus]

i still dont know what output you want lol

[limber iris]

Thanks man

[craggy whale]

just various number lol

[marble yarrow]

Just dont give random "1 space between splitters mess timing" rules next time

[limber iris]

DIGE says its 1/36, how is it 1/40?

[severe nexus]

that doesnt give me anything to go off of trying to solve it

[craggy whale]

oh nvm its protocol stash lol

[fossil spoke]

if casual player use DIGE, just let them follow DIGE

[analog elbow]

My man

[limber iris]

Yes, protoc stash then turned off

[fossil spoke]

[limber iris]

Belt or no belt on the thermal banks dont matter, right?

[craggy whale]

[fossil spoke]

so if something broke, they can just blame DIGE

[marble yarrow]

Yeah but dont give some mechanics that isnt true

[fossil spoke]

[limber iris]

Im just really here to understand how to implement what DIGE tells me

[fossil spoke]

but, the belt system got simplied when offline is true tho.....

[craggy whale]

nah nvm ur bank is 1 every 72 seconds

[fossil spoke]

thats why DIGE avoid belt space

[limber iris]

No belt spaces on the connecting splitters, copy!

anything else, bets are fine

[craggy whale]

the reason was since it only used to bank

and u know bank needs 1 or 2 atleast be active in short time

and 1 ir 2 act as charger if the reserve power too low

[marble yarrow]

I got spaces between my battery splitters that doesnt even make my factory go against the power curve. For the past 2 weeks

[severe nexus]

i still have no idea what you are talking about 🤣

[craggy whale]

[craggy whale]

just the formula to efficient ur battery

[fossil spoke]

well, whatever makes your boat float then

[craggy whale]

1 almost everytime active

[severe nexus]

like if you give desired amount and frequency of the output

i can make it

[craggy whale]

nah dw

i can do it

[analog elbow]

Show me some 2 HC batteries line up. I need some references

[fossil spoke]

get called as a DIGE shil is crazy

[craggy whale]

[craggy whale]

wym

[analog elbow]

I wanna use 2 HCs now

[marble yarrow]

Dige shillers

[fossil spoke]

make a competitor @marble yarrow

[analog elbow]

I have limited space so i need some references to adjust it as my needs.

[fossil spoke]

DOGE

nvm, that was a coin name

[craggy whale]

i mean the smallest amount if u use 1 item to block is 5 output

i try to make it smaller with 2 items now xd

[marble yarrow]

I dont need to. As long as i know splitters are ok with belt spaced between them.

[frail trail]

there are so many thing going on in that pic

[analog elbow]

:)

[severe nexus]

yeah and i already gave you a design like yesterday

[craggy whale]

?

[severe nexus]

lol

[craggy whale]

wait did u?

[fossil spoke]

tbh, if only endfield has proper and deterministic behaviour, I will agree with that for every case......

dont blame me

blame endfield

[craggy whale]

[severe nexus]

like you want batches less than 5 right

[fossil spoke]

[craggy whale]

true yea i did it with 2 items now

and it can adjust to 1

[marble yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011849913124012062/1472485425892560946/16k-wuling.gif

[analog elbow]

Lowest I've ever seen was 16.3K and somehow it's less than that

[severe nexus]

yeah i gave you a bp for that lol

[craggy whale]

[analog elbow]

I was thinking of going out. But then i remember

I can just lay down at my bed

[craggy whale]

this one?

[fossil spoke]

did people keep accidentaly fill the depo delivery with low count or smth

coz I kept finding lvl 56 player

[severe nexus]

yeah

[fossil spoke]

doing 16k wuling depo transfer

.

[analog elbow]

73K or bust

[marble yarrow]

Buh i also see more 15k wuling than 74k what happened

[fossil spoke]

real

[frail trail]

how do people even transfer a 16k delivery

[analog elbow]

People decided to idk

[craggy whale]

the blocker doesnt have enuff time to make it 1 tho

thats why u use 2 items act as block

[analog elbow]

That's like daily limit from killing mobs

[fossil spoke]

its understandable if the AL is like 53 / 52 and lower

but for AL 55

56

bruh

what did u do

[analog elbow]

Might as well spam Turrets

[severe nexus]

yeah and i said that design uses 2 items

[craggy whale]

[frail trail]

are they putting the gdp of zimbabwe into that delivery

[craggy whale]

you didnt say it

[craggy whale]

yeah 2 phase design

how could i know what it means xd

[severe nexus]

ok mb lol

[craggy whale]

[severe nexus]

i should have clarified

[analog elbow]

Imma just go buy Kebab to refresh my brain

[craggy whale]

turkish pizza

[craggy whale]

bro you mokel?

[marble yarrow]

Bruh icant play factory for the next 24 hrs coz im out of town and my phone is shit. And im getting withdrawal symptoms. I took a nap and i dreamt of buck A production pls help

[craggy whale]

[fossil spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-gif-1878760417600646737

[craggy whale]

im mokel everyday man

[fossil spoke]

I think I knew where @craggy whale came from

[craggy whale]

[craggy whale]

nah u dont know

i just know the language

[fossil spoke]

ah yeah

that server tag

[craggy whale]

[cedar bay]

I guess it's time to produce components since I'm nearly overflowing with batteries & Syringe now.

[fossil spoke]

did u..... watch that on Ramadan

[craggy whale]

i said im mokel everyday

[fossil spoke]

[atomic fiber]

make liquid xiranite and fill pond

[craggy whale]

ur name is more interesting

i thought u were the real one

but theres no way

[viscid plover]

[craggy whale]

[fossil spoke]

wait what

[marble yarrow]

Time to do some ratio. Pump the xiranite numbers also

[fossil spoke]

what "real one"

[craggy whale]

ur discord name

[craggy whale]

time to drop all battery into component instead

[fossil spoke]

ah, when the discord change its system, I take that name first

so the original can use BadakBerenang instead

or smth else

[craggy whale]

i mean ur not the real one

[fossil spoke]

only few people knew that "BadakBerenang" ign

yeah

definitely not the real one

[marble yarrow]

Cant forgo battery lmao, im slowly dripping up my comps with 0.5/min (actual fcking slow)

[craggy whale]

nah

[tepid wind]

i put mega art on aic or something idk

[analog elbow]

Mokel ?

[craggy whale]

if u have full u can skip daily

[craggy whale]

[fossil spoke]

skipping fasting

or break the fast

or not doing the fast at all

[analog elbow]

Ahahah

[craggy whale]

where the n version

[fossil spoke]

[craggy whale]

[analog elbow]

[craggy whale]

see

hes mokel everyday

same as me

[lone pebble]

Roku , rap youre brain aroun this 😄

[craggy whale]

[marble yarrow]

Whats max bills outposts can stock? Like their max storage if you skip? Wuling at least

[craggy whale]

wym

[analog elbow]

Wuling 100

[fossil spoke]

so @analog elbow and @craggy whale is from the same region.....

[analog elbow]

Valley 960 i believe

[craggy whale]

u use extra 1 machine?

[fossil spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/watching-you-observe-seeing-i-saw-you-gif-5740825

[craggy whale]

for the battery production?

[analog elbow]

I haven't even met this man in my entire life

[lone pebble]

1 full extra machine !

[craggy whale]

also wh y u have 40 depot ferrium

[marble yarrow]

100k bills?

[craggy whale]

[fossil spoke]

just check @craggy whale server tag that he uses

[analog elbow]

Stock bills limit or elastic goods limit?

[craggy whale]

[lone pebble]

and is starting to stabilize

[marble yarrow]

Outpost stock bills

[craggy whale]

what happened tho

[analog elbow]

Ohhh

[analog elbow]

You mean the maximum wealth they can stock up?

[marble yarrow]

Yeye

[analog elbow]

Idk. Never paid attention to it

We always bankrupt them

[marble yarrow]

I forgot if theres a limit indicator

[craggy whale]

7/min? so 8/min when it use extra every 2 minutes?

[analog elbow]

I think 3 days is enough to make them full again

[marble yarrow]

Oh wait yes theres like a "time to full" indicator

[lone pebble]

7/10 :))

but havent got yet to that , to see the PWM ! yet

wana stabilize Ferrium !

[analog elbow]

Can be sped up with Operators that have % to gain more stock bills

[craggy whale]

idk what ur usign all of that of ur ferium tbh

[viscid plover]

[fossil spoke]

which outpost

[analog elbow]

[analog elbow]

Wuling

[fossil spoke]

for valey, the usual config is Lae, Chen (for stocking), and Gilb

for wuling wulfgard

atm

[lone pebble]

and Ori usage ?

[marble yarrow]

Weekly Originium mass burning

[rocky ibex]

V4 is so scuffed but I already transferred so many yazhen bottles

[lone pebble]

ure making me think to big at this H !

[analog elbow]

Uhhh i know. I was mentioning the Stock bills speed

[fossil spoke]

[analog elbow]

Time to eat

Kebab

[viscid plover]

im already buying those 200 400 500k per pop item

dammit

[calm crow]

Consider whether or not you should be doing that

[glad needle]

.roadmap

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086663447207956/1468631838695100592/my-toughts-after-100h-as-a-brand-new-gacha-player-v0-bqokg61ag3hg1.png?ex=6984b97c&is=698367fc&hm=1d9878061e5afb7ee7e2e8962a56f98397918e0aac3faa4bb9fe78c44e44697e&

[glad needle]

2 more days

im definetly not addicted

[merry wagon]

what's this delver of the cryptic event

[fossil spoke]

sanity less behaviour

[merry wagon]

is it the bots

[fossil spoke]

puzzle event iirc

idk which one. and Idk if that were in CBT

[merry wagon]

hmm

might be the delta bots

just maybe

[cedar bay]

Made my Wulling base really module so I can just plug in whatever production I need via blueprints at the time.

[royal eagle]

[viscid plover]

living up to the name

[royal eagle]

Its pwm

For v4 with hc batteries

[royal eagle]

I made my bus go through the middle so i can extend the bus whenever i need it

[cedar bay]

Yeah once we get more resources I'll do the same, but for rn we don't have enough for it to meaningfully matter. So I like it neater

[royal eagle]

Yeah

This is my whole base

[unreal laurel]

deficit * (x-40) = surplus * (40) is the approximate value for x(battery interval)

am i tripping or does this work?

40 comes from the hc timer

it isnt precise for sure but doesnt this give a rough estimation of the interval in 1/x

[sudden night]

https://youtu.be/JEc3xgDUOX8?si=4ULXZjPHLTFzJ_bD
Is the base in this video good? Like max production cap?

[frail trail]

it reaches max production cap and you can configure the output

tho it's not the most power efficient i think

which doesn't matter too much, you don't need to min max

[sudden night]

Oh wow then it'll make things easier

I don't understand the "mistake" he made in the base in the video

The solution specifically

[shrewd sigil]

Does someone have abegginer wuling

[frail trail]

are you talking about the 14:56 mark ?

[subtle finch]

my 1/6 splitter somehow desynced while offline, hopefully this one works now since it's beltless

[atomic fiber]

no. but you can copy paste lots of blueprint in #1461542035617091681

[sudden night]

Yea the last part of the video

[shrewd sigil]

Cant find any that fit my need

[atomic fiber]

dunno then

[gentle herald]

What do you need anyway

[shrewd sigil]

Help

[merry wagon]

what do you need

[somber snow]

does the flow rate decrease as i use more pipe splitters,
or is it only the capacity?

[frail trail]

his old design had a line of battery, powder and carbon all connecting into 1 stash
if any one of those material hit the cap, the stash will be clogged with that material and can't transfer the other 2

[sudden night]

Oh

How to fix it though?

[frail trail]

just don't use his old design xd

[atomic fiber]

yes, flow rate decrease.

capacity? pipe have capacity?

[atomic fiber]

use 1 stash for each item

[sudden night]

Oh ok

I'm dumb

[atomic fiber]

oh... i guess that mean 1 pipe can store 1 water

[somber snow]

becuz i just checked,
the flow rate is the same,
its only the capacity

or is it up to a certain amount of splitters,
then the flow rate also decreases

[frail trail]

the rate is split

if you have 1 pump then the pipe's rate is 1/s

the max rate is 2/s

[somber snow]

then im assuming it doesnt say that anywhere

[marble yarrow]

Its just same as belt. It has a max/constant speed. But the contents vary

[atomic fiber]

I'm very sure flow rate decrease. the very first pipe is 1/sec. if you split it into 2 it become 1/2 sec

[marble yarrow]

Pipe still has 2/s of speed. What varies is the water it carries

[somber snow]

i just wanna check the stats,
but if there isnt any in the ingame data,
then i guess thats that

[frail trail]

you are forced to do the math i guess

maybe we will get a flow rate measurer in the future

[royal eagle]

You cant get accurate value but you can calculate how much battery you need per min. This is what i did

[mellow jungle]

is there relay placement here? or do i have to put the relay next to the mountain?

[frail trail]

are you on a tree or smth

[atomic fiber]

that is not for this channel

[atomic fiber]

he on top of mountain, by doing parkour

which not reachable in normal way

[frail trail]

sing that one line from cc#7 lobby theme everytime you use that pylon <3

[royal eagle]

Keep atleast one space between spiter and conjunction so that it doesn't clog

[mellow jungle]

then which one?

cryingandshaking~1

[atomic fiber]

i don't think we channel for oob

[frail trail]

wait aren't you in game ?

[subtle finch]

like dige?

[royal eagle]

Kinda but you can use simple belt it will show you the problem

[royal eagle]

How much you want to split btw ?

[subtle finch]

1/6 on the left

[royal eagle]

Yeah

[subtle finch]

the dige site warns about belts so i avoid it just in case

[royal eagle]

Ok

[viscid plover]

you use pylon on that spot if relay is too big

[royal eagle]

Thanks i didn't know that

[marble yarrow]

Honestly thats a lot of convergers just to 1/6th

You can use at least just 2

Even just 1 actually

[royal eagle]

Two spliter and converger works but they say its not working offline

[marble yarrow]

If you are introducing conflict points like adjacent converger-splitter then its more likely to fail offline

[royal eagle]

Yeah keeping some space between solve problems

Then again dige says its bugged

[marble yarrow]

Best to try it on your factory. Mine works best with the spacing buffer when offline. Also i find using the 3-ways splitters as the first one the unloader encounters is safer.

[subtle finch]

that's why im using stash for dige, ill try another solution if it fails again

[candid moth]

Use pylon

[marble yarrow]

Also trying your setup by using it online for 2 hrs, then comparing by going offline for 2 hours for checking

[subtle finch]

it's overkill, but better than downtime , works after 12h offline, for now*

[royal eagle]

Same

[marble yarrow]

I have the splitter with 1 belt spacing then converger. Works fine. Also my config has very little allowance for failure (only 1 second of 100% power) so if it actually fails i should wake up to an unpowered factory

[royal eagle]

This is working fine for me

[marble yarrow]

Actually the battery throttle works perfect than my whole factory, which has an unexplained minus 1 production when ur offline for a long period of time

[frail trail]

how many artificing catalyst can we buy weekly? im trying to plan my xcomponent but can't find the number online

[royal eagle]

Clogging?

[marble yarrow]

Nope. Every ratio is fine

I can go online for half a day and its working fine

But the graph changes when i go offline

[royal eagle]

Where is -1 happening

[nova cradle]

Are these unironically real set ups or are people here trolling

[marble yarrow]

Change your graph to 1-day

[nova cradle]

Past few days ive been seeing crazy set ups with logistics

Here

[subtle finch]

yeah, i simply replaced belts with convergers as recommended

[nova cradle]

Like, what is happening

[royal eagle]

I just recently made few factories so its not ready

[marble yarrow]

Every item you produce shows minus 1 production

[royal eagle]

That is 1/12

[nova cradle]

And it's for a battery

[subtle finch]

just a random example

[royal eagle]

Ooh

[royal eagle]

If graph is fluctuating it shows lesser value for all items

[subtle finch]

tl;dr, belts splitters, convegers are acting strange while offline, and we're guessing for solution

[nova cradle]

Oh

That's crazy

Hypergrpyh pls fix. Maybe i was suppose to be producing way more than i should have been rn

[atomic fiber]

there is a new meta

it's to use stash

as replacement for splitter and converger

because stash don't clog

ofc the stash is turned off and it's on storage mode

[subtle finch]

that's literally what i did lol

[royal eagle]

Ppl are trying to use min battery and get max output thats all

[atomic fiber]

the problem is... this is still new stuff, people still experimenting on the offline behavior

[atomic fiber]

did you found any problem when using it offline? how long have you been using it?

[royal eagle]

I m not really using any splitter on my factories

[subtle finch]

#aic-factory message

so far this is stable for 12h+ im offline

[atomic fiber]

ok thx for the info

[grand wagon]

what do i make here at the temp shelter?

[royal eagle]

I directly spitted my xiranite from the forge

[dense wyvern]

Kinda up to you....

Small batteries I guess.

Or planters.

Really depends on what you already have in Hub

And how much mining you're doing.

[grand wagon]

wont either one also make stock for valley 4?

that i can sell

[frail trail]

Make whatever is gonna sell for stock

Tho do make sure to at least stock up on stuff needed to build the machines

[subtle finch]

i was selling buck C and B at that stage, then you graduate to sc and hc batteries

[dense wyvern]

You kinda need to see what resources you have left, then make lines depending on what you can use.

[royal eagle]

Make factories

[nova cradle]

Yeah all im thinking of is "just put a protocol stash before thermal battery people"

[royal eagle]

I thought the same its not that big deal

But its just fun optimising things for some ppl like me

[atomic fiber]

2mil Power

new record

[royal eagle]

you can go further if you have patience to put battries in each of them

[atomic fiber]

that is already max protocol capacity btw

[royal eagle]

[atomic fiber]

on all map too, not just the hub

[royal eagle]

with wuling bat ?

[atomic fiber]

probably not all yet

[glad needle]

enough to melt the whole artic

[subtle finch]

enough for one answer of chatgpt

[grand wagon]

reminds me of lets game it out haha

[royal eagle]

the roof is so high

[grand wagon]

i was gonna make a factory that mines and gives the shelter more money but there isnt any ores here at all

[dusky shore]

I need a break

[analog elbow]

@craggy whale look what i cooked
Basically this isn't enough to fill the reserve power storage, it will leave me at 99-98%
But with 1 Originium as a support power after a few cycles it will eventually fill up some power gaps.
And at peak it stabilizes with not even a full second uptime

Saving up Originium because wuling only provides 360

[royal eagle]

mine gose to exactly 100

[analog elbow]

I like to edge my power that's why

[analog elbow]

Not edged enough

[royal eagle]

Bro its edge to edge

[analog elbow]

At least show me the build and uptime

[viral wharf]

Show the >1hr

[jovial breach]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463373781912387607/1474801188821274798/20260221-1612-39.8066763.mp4?ex=699b2b23&is=6999d9a3&hm=5eed1ae8d4c46db96f5007049850ad17b0b0b2cd8e3f54ed67df7fb6215cd15f&

hg pls fix

[analog elbow]

You need camera feature

[cedar turret]

Yeah use camera and turn off factory in view

Then no blocks

[viral wharf]

I think they mentioned working on their behavior

[pseudo quest]

who likes my spaghetti batterynaise

[viral wharf]

Tbf though, you're being inefficient on sprinklers

[jovial breach]

wdym

1 sprinkler 2 pltos

[viral wharf]

Oh you have them sideways, I see

I went with this

[royal eagle]

@viral wharf @analog elbow both

[viral wharf]

Ah okay, nice

[royal eagle]

It gose exactly upto 100

[analog elbow]

I know

It's supposed to do that

I was talking about your PWM

[royal eagle]

Thats what i did

[analog elbow]

Like how low does it leave your power % at and how long does it stays at 100%

I said build

Not graphs statistics

[royal eagle]

1 sec

[analog elbow]

Show me smh. Can't do nothing without any visual

[royal eagle]

Wuling less than 1 sec

[analog elbow]

[viral wharf]

It shouldn't stay on 100% long with a 10 Power Surplus

[royal eagle]

It will be useless tbh

• constant thermals

Like 1 battery per 40sec

[analog elbow]

Oh wait you have less way less power usage in Wuling

How come it's 1.54K

[royal eagle]

Idk

Im making everything possible

[analog elbow]

Kinda weird production rate tho

Ah

Orgin not utilized to the max

[nova lodge]

well, anything is possible depending on how much the player is willing to sacrifice.

[royal eagle]

Yeah because im making 10.5 batteries

And 1 gear per min

[analog elbow]

You should be able to make more

With a bit of belt witchery

[velvet hemlock]

Are you making syringes?

[analog elbow]

He does

And if you're asking me. Yes

[velvet hemlock]

The factory must grow

[analog elbow]

I make everything too but more than what he's producing. I can't see his ferrium so idk if it's being utilized to the max too

[royal eagle]

how much more ?

[analog elbow]

Wait i just restarted my Factory after changing power setup

Let's wait 10mins

For it to stabilize and show accurate graphs

Or you will be seeing weird stuff instead lmao

[jolly shore]

I'm glad stock bill collecting doesn't require a perfectly optimized factory, it lets me do little projects with surplus materials

[atomic fiber]

yes

filling pond with xiranite

[jolly shore]

like filling the cavern with xiranite fluid or making a stockpile of bottles by filling them with every fluid type

[royal eagle]

@analog elbow

[atomic fiber]

LR user yay

[jolly shore]

it will give me a reason to actually use the separation unit in the future

[royal eagle]

It just barely touches 100 and gose down

[analog elbow]

I only care about wuling. Valley 4 is ancient

[royal eagle]

My wify

[analog elbow]

Show your wuling

[royal eagle]

Its sam e

[analog elbow]

So i can cope with 1s uptime

[royal eagle]

[analog elbow]

Like when i sniff Sandleaf powder

[royal eagle]

Ooh

[jolly shore]

sandblast your lungs

[analog elbow]

Don't be mistaken. I want to admire it if you show it

[analog elbow]

As long as the ammunition is sandleaf

Would

[jolly shore]

if I had a nickel for every time I've heard that

[royal eagle]

i was there so i showed v4

[analog elbow]

Only half wet

Show me wuling too

[royal eagle]

ok min

[atomic fiber]

his wuling is fine tbh, not perfect, but good enough

[analog elbow]

I mean 1s uptime is just like 99% efficiency on battery usage
It's just touching me on the soul and how satisfying it is.

[pastel plume]

about time I guess

[analog elbow]

Here @royal eagle

[royal eagle]

Its taking little longer because i removed some ziplines recently

[royal eagle]

I want to figure out that syringe hack

[analog elbow]

You can even split it to 3 jincao / 3 yahzen

But I'm too lazy to do that. @marble yarrow did that tho

He's the belt witch

[royal eagle]

That is next lvl

Im good with this rn

[leaden drift]

That isnt too hard if strictly talking belts

[analog elbow]

That's 3 seconds. Good enough. Better add Ziplines tho

[leaden drift]

Just splitter the bottles and the parts

[analog elbow]

They either have to rearrange their factory or just slap it which is not cool

[royal eagle]

they were for mission and forgor to remove them

[analog elbow]

[leaden drift]

Ive been trying to theory craft an on off auto toggle

Using belts

[analog elbow]

People tend to build a compact one for Wuling so yeah. I don't think they have that space

[atomic fiber]

oh... you doing full HC thermal bank on wuling, same as mine

[analog elbow]

Well his seems empty

[leaden drift]

I think i have an idea using cloging

It definitely wont be be like super crazy

[royal eagle]

This is my whole setup

Just alternating between batteries

[atomic fiber]

all auto on off model so far that i have seen doesn't work offline btw
is yours work offline?

[analog elbow]

I'm sure that's what zroku has been trying to do before when harunachan dropped a video reference but idk if it's completed or not

[royal eagle]

Its perfect for me but thanks

[analog elbow]

Smaller than expected

Cool

[analog elbow]

You make Jincao

[royal eagle]

It was coincidence tbh

[royal eagle]

V4 was calculated

[atomic fiber]

yeah

[pearl thunder]

guys is it more efficient if you make the ingredients for the HC Battery first rather than making the whole assembly first

[analog elbow]

Uhhh pretty much the same unless your belts aren't belting

[atomic fiber]

most of compact blueprint that i see, is doing it in one whole line assembly

[analog elbow]

Or some ratios are off

[pearl thunder]

i'm saying like if you make the ingredients for the dense originium powder first then the ingredients for ht epackaging stuff first, then use those in the depot to make it instant

[pearl thunder]

problem is, for me doing it in one assembly is too slow

[atomic fiber]

tbh value wise is the same. it's just matter of space being eaten

[real crescent]

if you make ingredients in one place and assemble in another thats a bunch of unneeded depot slots you are using

[atomic fiber]

the speed should be the same

[marble marsh]

Should I just mass produce batteries to sell in the valley since I have wuling for gear?

[pearl thunder]

I even already made a production for carbon and ferrium

[analog elbow]

Huh

[atomic fiber]

yes, that is the better way, as long as you have Sanity to spare for your factory

[analog elbow]

I don't get it

[atomic fiber]

Basically what we doing. burning HC on wuling

[analog elbow]

Ah

Yes use HC for wuling

[pearl thunder]

does meta transfer allow you to infinitely transfer shit to wuling

[analog elbow]

Yes

You get items from factory god himself

Scientists hate this Meta transfer since it defies all logic

[atomic fiber]

yes, but it's limited . manual transfer can transfer much more stuff

[analog elbow]

HEY IT'S UNLIMITED

Just wait time took 1h

[pearl thunder]

also wait wait, DOES THE TIMER ONLY ADVANCE IF YOU'RE IN GAME

[atomic fiber]

no. it work offline too

[pearl thunder]

THE TIMER FOR MANUAL TRANSFER DID'T GO WHEN I WAS OFFLINE

[atomic fiber]

[analog elbow]

Are you using Meta transfer or Depot Transfer

[pearl thunder]

or does the 1 hour timer keep resetting or what

[analog elbow]

[pearl thunder]

depot transfer

[analog elbow]

It will kept running

[pearl thunder]

i'm not that god enough to unlock meta just yet

[atomic fiber]

yeah it should keep running

[analog elbow]

It drains resources from your Depot until it's out of stock

[analog elbow]

You need regional lvl 12 in Valley

That's why

[atomic fiber]

maybe your Valley IV depot out of stock?

[analog elbow]

If it's not transferring then you're broke

[atomic fiber]

might be the reason why it didn't do it job

[pearl thunder]

how many full assembly of HC Battery do I need to keep it self sufficient? 999?

[analog elbow]

Huh

What is

[atomic fiber]

you can't fit that much

space is limited

[pearl thunder]

but HC Battery is the endgame right

[analog elbow]

Yes

Maximum production of Valley can be built at Regional Lvl 11

[atomic fiber]

normally people have 3 lines. Basically 18 HC battery per minutes

[pearl thunder]

what do you need for ciranite again other than carbon

[atomic fiber]

but i beg to differ ofc

[analog elbow]

Water

[atomic fiber]

water

[analog elbow]

Nestle company

[nova osprey]

21/min hc?

[atomic fiber]

manual transfer dense originum from Wuling

[analog elbow]

Also the reason i switch is because i want to let my Component production run all the time.

Can't afford to consume my wuling battery

[pearl thunder]

i need to start mass producing originiium powder

[nova osprey]

bruh

[karmic sedge]

its fine the wuling region outpost literally doesnt regen bills fast enoguh to keep up with max production of batteries and needles

im using two batteries out of the 6/min output and its still maxing out the region regen

[analog elbow]

We gotta hit max depot for future expansion.
THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[viral wharf]

Won't you run out of Originium Ore in Wuling? Or are you not using all of your Xiranite?

[karmic sedge]

relax perlica...

[analog elbow]

I will do anything for 0000000.1% profit

[shut hearth]

At what point did u stop making xiranite component for gear?

[karmic sedge]

like 20000 i just let it run for 2 days

[shut hearth]

I have like 38k last time i checked lmao

[atomic fiber]

I'm using the xiranite for xiranite Gear component, which is why I have excess Dense originum

[pearl thunder]

i'd transfer carbon instead

or should I produce carbon in wuling too?

[shut hearth]

Wait what why that over ferrium

[atomic fiber]

it's better to produce carbon at wuling yeah

because of wuling plant

[karmic sedge]

im doing steel i think because the steel amount in wuling is weird i think its lacking like 30/min? to run needles at full speed from trhe originium productions

[atomic fiber]

have better power ratio to generate carbon

[karmic sedge]

still the trasnfer amount is also weird because its 25/min so it doesnt even fill a belt fully

[viral wharf]

Cheaper on power to make Carbon in Wuling, but unless you're super min-maxing on Power, not really worth transferring when you can just make it in V4

[shut hearth]

Power and saving a 5×5? Space is all for wuling plant no?

[atomic fiber]

yeah

it always better to make carbon on wuling

[shut hearth]

But where do we even use carbon in valley 4 anyway

After we make the initial 20ish farm plots

[analog elbow]

He hasn't unlocked meta transfer yet

[viral wharf]

Ah gotcha, I'm running this for now:

[analog elbow]

You can use this as a reference

[atomic fiber]

yeah, if you make xiranite gear component. you will always have excess originum ore like you have there

[shut hearth]

How does that explain why they not manually hauling ferrium instead

[analog elbow]

Ask him

[analog elbow]

Oh wait it's the same graphs

I like yours better

Because it's dark

Daily reset soon. Gotta farm my ginseng

[viral wharf]

I could really switch to 11.33 Wuling Battery/min and 0.33 Xiranite Components/min, since I think I've made enough to cover the 200 discounted Catalysts.

[analog elbow]

Max depot or bust

Gotta harvest and replant before sleeping

[wide surge]

hlo fellow pengmins 🐧! ive been having an issue with the wuling batteries. For some reason the batteries stop going into the thermal bank when i closee the game but instead they're all dumping themselves in the depot ( dk why). so ultimately the factory stop work. can anyone help me out pls. fyi ive never played any factory games b4, so excuse my dumbness

this is how i set it up btw, ofc i didn't come up with the design myself. i took it from endfield.cc tools or smthg

[nova osprey]

i don't think the problem is that it's going straight to the depot

[royal eagle]

Guys teach me the witch craft of those syringe belt

I don't want to do the calculation

[nova osprey]

show 1 hour and 1 day graph

[royal eagle]

[nova osprey]

what calculation

[wide surge]

okay gimee one min

[royal eagle]

Splitter

[nova osprey]

ferrium?

you don't need to do that

[royal eagle]

Whatever i need to

[nova osprey]

just make a normal medicine factory same as you would on v4 side

but with wuling plants

[wide surge]

there isn't a 1hr display

oh why is the 1day one looking weird

[royal eagle]

@analog elbow can you show me your belt wtich craft

[analog elbow]

I'm logged off. I have 12H shift bruh

[nova osprey]

you're using more xiranite than you're producing, so your xiranite hit 0, and then your battery production is now only running at 2/min instead of 6/min

[lone pebble]

THAT m..... is killing me :)) best i can come up close is 24 bat with a 14/15/16/min buch a :)) but i got the ideea how to implement the 30 , but cant figure out yet the bloody lines

[royal eagle]

Ok np

[wide surge]

oh

[analog elbow]

Ask haruna chan he's on

[nova osprey]

you don't need belt witchcraft, it's just excessive

[analog elbow]

I gtg it's late

[royal eagle]

Cyaa

[nova osprey]

you're going to use up all your ferrium regardless

[analog elbow]

Bye beautiful people

[nova osprey]

unless you're trying to do something with it then go ahead

[lone pebble]

good night

[nova osprey]

keep in mind you're splitting that 2/min to 1/min and your thermal bank needs 1.5/min.

[royal eagle]

@marble yarrow how to split those belts for syringe ?

[nova osprey]

meaning your bank is only 66% effective atm

[wide surge]

can u tell me what i need to do, should i remove one of my productioin lines ?

[royal eagle]

No there is trick to get more output

More like calculation

[wide surge]

ohhhh

[nova osprey]

there is no trick to get more output what are you talking about

you're using up all your ferrium regardless

[royal eagle]

You can get more than 5 output

[nova osprey]

no you're hardlimited by the amount of ferrium you have

it just shows that on display

[wide surge]

so i need to make sure atleast 2/min is going into the battery factory right ?

[nova osprey]

it's same shit regardless of what it says on the aic report

[nova osprey]

that doesn't mean shit

[royal eagle]

Ppl are getting more than 5 there

Per min syringe

I believe it

[nova osprey]

okay so you're telling me that with 115/min, you're magically getting an extra tiny bit every minute? created from nothing?

[royal eagle]

Idk how thats why im asking

[nova osprey]

yeah

[lone pebble]

neeat have this

[nova osprey]

it's the exact same it's pointless to do the weird "belt splitting" thing because it produces the same amount

it will only show on the aic report that it's 5/min, but it's not giving you any extra

you're hard limited on how much you get per minute

[royal eagle]

Ok

[velvet hemlock]

Well it'll look better for investors!

[nova osprey]

true,

[nova lodge]

shareholder meeting flex :v

oh wait, we do have a shareholder meeting of sorts in endfield :v

the civilization band coalition meeting.

[wide surge]

got it but rn how do i upgrade the rdl if i cannot make stock bills to open more mine spots T_T

also cant u make more xiranite ?

[velvet hemlock]

Nope, only 2 xiranite rn

[wide surge]

I SEE

[nova osprey]

you have two sky forges, but yours are running at 67% efficiency, so you're losing 20/min atm

[velvet hemlock]

Yeah, might need to provide more carbon or water

[nova osprey]

yeah something funky going on

[wide surge]

exactly, its the fluids that messed me up as well. valley 4 was peaceful for me

[nova osprey]

btw one pump can run 2 machines

just letting you know

[wide surge]

didn't know that

[royal eagle]

Do i need to transfer from v4 ?

[wide surge]

alr, ill redo the factory and this time ill be xtra careful

[marsh isle]

Peak cultivation

[nova osprey]

yes you need meta transfer

[wide surge]

thx for da help guys ❤️

[marble yarrow]

It matches 90/min from wuling mines + 1500/hr regional transfer

[nova osprey]

meta transfer makes it go from 90/min to 115/min

[royal eagle]

Ok thanks mate

Cool Setup ngl

[nova osprey]

belt splitting is so if you don't want to 0 your ferrium and want to keep it at 115/min usage

[royal eagle]

Ooh

[marble yarrow]

Both blueprint works 115/min. 1st is the old iteration, then 2nd pic is a much closer setup which is like the facility spacings of a normal setup but the belts are just different

Not a must-have but for people who just want to match ratios

[royal eagle]

It is most optimised so its satisfying

[marble yarrow]

Its not optimized even

[nova osprey]

eh, kind of but also not really

[marble yarrow]

Not the right word

[nova osprey]

more like symmetry

[marble yarrow]

weird ass rates, 1800/hr will never come

[nova osprey]

in 1.1 we trust

[velvet hemlock]

Nuh

[nova osprey]

damn

[marble yarrow]

We need more mineral nodes

[nova osprey]

wonder if we'll get a new mineral in the next update?

i hope we do

[velvet hemlock]

What are we gonna do with it?

Make better bottles?

[nova osprey]

i know there's cuprium and aggragrite clusters that aren't released yet

[nova osprey]

probably, and more things via grinders

it's also been teased already, and i heard cuprium was in beta test at some point

[velvet hemlock]

More sandleaf?

[nova osprey]

yeah more sandleaf

maybe we'll get a wuling equivalent of sandleaf though

[frail trail]

👀

[nova osprey]

lmao

[nova osprey]

damn no way lmao

your actual username is cuprium

[frail trail]

yeah

[vivid shore]

what0)

[velvet hemlock]

Spooky

[marble yarrow]

2000 power battery

[nova osprey]

science park has posters for both of them

in some of the buildings

[frail trail]

and also quarry^

[vivid shore]

reallY=

[nova osprey]

oh yes quarry

[nova osprey]

yeahh

i mean cuprium is copper so

[frail trail]

maybe we will have obamium

[vivid shore]

like, is this confirmed?

[frail trail]

speculated

[nova osprey]

well cuprium was in cbt1 but it could be retconned, but i doubt it

[velvet hemlock]

Endminium

[velvet hemlock]

What is this stoopidity

[royal eagle]

Is this for 90/min

[frail trail]

that doesn't look correct

[viral wharf]

5.75 Yazhen Syringes/min

[royal eagle]

But input is 90 or need transfer

[nova osprey]

57.5/min?

[nova osprey]

without transfer you're stuck at 4.5

[viral wharf]

Oh, you don't have Meta Transfer?

[royal eagle]

[royal eagle]

No

[frail trail]

that's a 11:12 ratio

[viral wharf]

• It's removing 1/24th of the Ferrium Ore needed to do 6/min.
• 23/24ths × 6/min gives you 5.75/min.

[royal eagle]

I believe we can get 5

[nova osprey]

you cannot. 5 is with meta transfer

believe all you want though

[royal eagle]

[nova osprey]

no i mean ferrium use is at 57.5/min

but yeah 5.75/min syringe

if bottle necked by those parts

[viral wharf]

Oh i did my calculation kind of backwards from Syringes/min instead of Ferrium/min

[hexed raft]

i got max Valley IV im making 18 buck capsule A and 18 HC valley battery (some used for energy production) and also canned citrome C, amethyst bottles for selling and then also some plants for other stuff. but i cant sell everything the outpost is not even producing enough money to sell all my buck caplsule and battery

[real crescent]

yes

[frail trail]

shouldn't it be a 5/6th ?

[hexed raft]

how i make theem giv mroe money

[royal eagle]

I want to split 3 into 4 equal parts

[frail trail]

other than using the correct op to increase the rate, no

you are meant to produce more stuff than outpost