aic-factory

[nova lodge]

pretty much.

[lone pebble]

were ?

[fallen gorge]

can I see someone setup for the lc batt? I'll have to rework a few machines together

[lone pebble]

lc??

[fallen gorge]

lc wuling bats

[marble yarrow]

if you want simple but utilizes depot bus

[lone pebble]

he , saw something neet 😄 somewone who gets it to put the sandleaf shreder after 3 (enything else) ori in this case

[fallen gorge]

Ideally this is the closest one to work. Not sure if 6 dense is possible for a decent setup

[lone pebble]

10/min ? wy not ?

if u want full bat at 12 lose the spliter from the AIC

[fallen gorge]

I'll try 6 and experiment with the setup

[unreal laurel]

Idk, I can check

[fallen gorge]

for me, I like to be minimalist

[lone pebble]

the minimalist is 6/min ! and using only 30 xine !

right gives full out of 6 ! left gives 4 !

or if u want less bat/min lose the grinders ! but i dont see a point there !

[pastel plume]

mfw I am so tempted to buy the pillar

[nova lodge]

producing 11 battery per min for fun.
since gear components aren't being used much,

[marble yarrow]

yeah my config is 11 batt + 0.5 gear

[nova lodge]

resist!

[lone pebble]

true , but aiming to artifice all gear on all hero`s then play with them !

[nova lodge]

artifice rng is such a painful curse to deal with =.=;;;

[pastel plume]

used someone else's BP and my config would be a 12 batt / 0 gear since I stacked around 27K
-# and not actively artificing yet

[nova lodge]

better avoid delving into it too much.

[nova lodge]

sure, can always adjust them later.

[lone pebble]

except the fact , that i`m limited in buying ! havent went over 50% in any lvl of artificing

[pastel plume]

already bought all the 16M statues VIV has to offer

[nova lodge]

nice~

[lone pebble]

need only 20M TO BUY the last 2 😄

[pastel plume]

all is left is the 4M Wuling pillar

[fallen gorge]

I'll try it your way and give the setup a go tomorrow. It's nearly 2am here

[pastel plume]

which in paper doesn't seem too much, but a hella expensive one knowing SB cap

[lone pebble]

3.44 here :))

[lone pebble]

try as you wish , and see what fits youre gameplay :))

[lone pebble]

think you can make it in less then a week if no spending!

i mean income is around 1mil a day ,

[pastel plume]

apparently I can buy it, and would be down to 362K

572K if I finished today's monitoring

[nova lodge]

resist the temptation!

[shrewd knoll]

just buy it so you can show your trophy wife her trophy house

[lone pebble]

go for it 😄

[nova lodge]

[lone pebble]

2 days left till refresh items !

[pastel plume]

With my current config on someone's BP, I have about this much

[lone pebble]

wy not ussing hc bat , true youl have to use 4.5k a day , but still !

[pastel plume]

idk why Buck and Valley batt shows up, even though it's Wuling filtered
but yeah, not sure how my numbers go

[nova lodge]

sad that Wulling aic report shares the same favourite markings as V4

[pastel plume]

I'll try switching off the PWM portion of that BP and see how I'll do

but hmmm

[lone pebble]

isent dige more efective then pwm?

[pastel plume]

I haven't understood dige well

and the BP I got seems like pwm, but I can be wrong

currently using an Azur Field BP
and this should be the power section

[marble yarrow]

pwm is anything that utilizes splitters to delay battery

dige is just a system that also uses pwm

[lone pebble]

oo , with dige youl have only this !

[lone pebble]

yes, but as far as i understood , pwm is based on bynary ! and need to alter the scheme to youre power usage !

[pastel plume]

what confuses me on that one is translating the solution to the game

I have a pwm setup in my sub pac in case something goes wrong on that section

though I'm interested in the dige setup

[turbid gyro]

i have a question, is it good to have multiple planters?

[lone pebble]

as for the plants ?! depends on the usage !

create as many as u use !

[turbid gyro]

ok so 0

becuz i dont use it

[lone pebble]

how do you make batteryes then ?

[turbid gyro]

umm

its in the build

ig

im asking if i should like have

individual ones

for every plant

[lone pebble]

this setup will look like this

[pastel plume]

the big players in the Talos II plant kingdom should be

• Buckflowers
• Sandleafs
• Jincaos

[lone pebble]

if you have nothing else to do ! go for 80k all

[unreal laurel]

do the energy nexuses around the map eat my power?

[pastel plume]

the second one should be the biggest out of the three

[unreal laurel]

im trying to optimize my lines and power rn

[unreal laurel]

jincaos?

[pastel plume]

is there anything else running other than this one?

[lone pebble]

no, that set was just for you ! 1 w bat use direct in Thermal , and the diff that u need from 1800 to 2.23 is with that !

[unreal laurel]

helo

do the energy nexus in v4 u power during exploration burn power?

[pastel plume]

yeah
Jincao

could be Yahzen, but I find Jincaos better, as the rare variant of it is used for making food buffs

[marble yarrow]

no

[unreal laurel]

good

[pastel plume]

so one therm has direct supply, and the excess uses that solution?

[marble yarrow]

you can inspect them, and it says nothing about power usage

[lone pebble]

ussgin dige for your power usage , yes

[pastel plume]

and if there are two diagrams, then 1 direct, and both diagrams for the excess?

[fervent pawn]

so when in the world will we get faster belts? i am getting tired of needing 10 depots just to make a balanced factory for HC batteries

[lone pebble]

you wont waste the diference usgin 2 bat that fives u 3.4 !

[lone pebble]

you need only 6 , if sandleaf and xine comes from plant/fitting

rewind 😄 sry my bad :))

[fervent pawn]

4 for the ferrium required, 6 for the originium required

[lone pebble]

true true , sry confronted HC with lcW

[turbid gyro]

time to build more of this ig?

[fervent pawn]

if we just had belts for 1p/s i could drag that down to 2 ferrium and 3 originium making me able to use the space a lot better from having vertical machines instead of wide machines

[lone pebble]

save 5 energy using 1 stash 🙂

[turbid gyro]

but it wont look symmetrical

[lone pebble]

whats the problem with the wide ? :))

[turbid gyro]

if u give me design that is symmetrical

i will use it

[lone pebble]

if u want a blueprint with vertical for HC i can give u one , butt youll need to put a relay tower and depo out manually

[bright zodiac]

most double farm will usually took 15x15 with very litte space wasted

but that...

[fervent pawn]

the problem is that only two sides of the cube we have for the AIC has the depots, if opposites sides had it it owuld not be a problem but since only half of it have them you need a lot of depot space. ATM i am being highly limited by not having enough dpots

although my current design is spaghetti for just needi ng the production

[turbid gyro]

that what

[fervent pawn]

but it is still something i have repeatedly felt

[lone pebble]

in W , you have both sides of the depo !

[fervent pawn]

well i have only done ch1 so i can not say if there are new things you get from the second area

but it is the largest gripe i have with teh factory segments atm

[lone pebble]

want this ? fits in 1/2 of s-pac ?

[fervent pawn]

i am not looking for blue prints

i enjoy making my own designs

using another persons blueprint is extremely boring

[bright zodiac]

more than 15x15

means it tooks a lot space more and the excess will looks really bad when you try to dupe and place them efficiently

so... try 15x15 nothing fancy, juat line them up straight, above left to right, bottom left to right. in the middle you can put 1 stash 1 power and even 1more refine

this could be dupe and mergeeee copy paste to next farm each other

[lone pebble]

but you can make them vertical 🙂

[turbid gyro]

do u have like a blueprint of that

i dont like straight lines

it makes me gay

[bright zodiac]

i do, if you wanna wait

[turbid gyro]

you laughed at

the second one

[bright zodiac]

wait for endfield to launch

[turbid gyro]

dont take that back

[lone pebble]

:))) you wrote to fast :))

[sand pivot]

this lowkey looks so clean

[lone pebble]

happy now ? :))

[turbid gyro]

yes

[sand pivot]

I'll add planters in the space remaining in the middle

[shut rover]

How much water can a pipe have until the splitter dries it

[turbid gyro]

i will not rap tap tap you

[fervent pawn]

i am very much missing having a blueprint zone though, i would love having a space where i do not need to rip down current machinery in order to experiment with designs

[turbid gyro]

bet

[fervent pawn]

modded factorio has spoiled me

[turbid gyro]

that doesnt look symmetrical

[sand pivot]

LMAO

I post a symmetrical ahh pic

bro posts a random ahh factory 😭

[turbid gyro]

must. remain. symmetrical.

[turbid gyro]

[sand pivot]

symmetry > efficiency!!!

symmetry and efficiency tho?

[fervent pawn]

TECHNICALLY that is not symmetrical since you are having different machinery in different areas, that grinder in the middle for example

[turbid gyro]

it's like a manager here at the factory i work at irl says "what use it is if the product is being mass produced if our belts look messy as fuck"

[sand pivot]

that grinder in the middle matches the grinder on the other side of the PAC

1 is a mirrored version of 2

[cyan bronze]

i'm making such a giant fucking conveyor belt pasta even the Italians would approve

[fervent pawn]

i see the symmetry line in the middle of the depot line

[cyan bronze]

is that the one in the

originium

science park

[sand pivot]

yeah

[fervent pawn]

if it was perfectly symmetrical no matter where you draw the symmetry line it would be symmetrical

[sand pivot]

I use it for dense originium and planters

[lone pebble]

cant make it more symmetrycal than this !

[turbid gyro]

HOLY

i think a bust something

[sand pivot]

you need to add a line in the middle!

[turbid gyro]

OH YE AH

THE LINE IN THE MIDDLE

[cyan bronze]

kidney stone

[sand pivot]

my ocd can't handle this!

[turbid gyro]

look at the very bottom too

it's uneven

3 : 2

[lone pebble]

will jam the belt :)) 1 on 1 off 1 on 1off , nonon

[sand pivot]

oh lord

I see that

😭

[fervent pawn]

all my factories are spaghetti since i have not finished upgrading every zone to its maximum

i will fix when i have that taken care of

[pastel plume]

I guess my power issues are lowkey solved

[fervent pawn]

i also need to rip out old factories, like ferrium parts

[calm crow]

The amount of delay

[fervent pawn]

why in the world are you using so many splitters and such

[pastel plume]

right side PWM is shut off btw

left side should be the dige solution as it is

[sand pivot]

still in deficit with 6 production lines 😭

[icy meteor]

Ok my factory keeps shutting down because this f..ing component magically appears inside my thermal bank, what the hell is this some kind of a bug?

[calm crow]

PWM, Pulse Width Modulation

Thinking of it as using exactly 40s of a battery, and the excess goes back into the system

[turbid gyro]

did i just hear a PWM

why is a PWM in endfield

[fervent pawn]

i just place down 4 burners, that is also perfectly 40s on every one from teh factory

[turbid gyro]

wtf that's a thing in this game?!

[calm crow]

@turbid gyro

[turbid gyro]

[crimson inlet]

PLEASE LOWLIGHT, GIVE ME THE ESSENCE

[turbid gyro]

day by day, this game is mirroring my IRL JOB

[calm crow]

Since January I suppose

[marble yarrow]

the amount of unneccessary convergers

[lone pebble]

POWER MANAGEMENT ,,,,,,, NO WASTED ENERGY

[crimson inlet]

I BOUGHT ALL MY ENGRAVINGS, also

[bright zodiac]

@turbid gyro

here you go, i tried triple farm compact and all, but i end up with dual farm as final setup that looks best and also space optimize, you can dupe it and it has couple of option to make extra refine or shred, etc.

and also what it looks when copy paste another dual farm next to each other

[fervent pawn]

i mean if you are playing games that mirror your work then that is on you

[crimson inlet]

day by day, this game wants me to become an EE

[calm crow]

Niceu

[turbid gyro]

STOP

[pastel plume]

what were burners again?

[bright zodiac]

iirc 15x15 is the most compact, or either 15x14 with some extra hard to use space

[turbid gyro]

i clock in at work, i work in a factory as an electrical engineer. i clock out of work, i start playing this damn game

[crimson inlet]

*Factorio flashbacks*

[turbid gyro]

[crimson inlet]

what's your salary?

[fervent pawn]

i call them burners since i come from factorio but they are hte things you insert batteries into to have more capacity (forgor the name)

[lone pebble]

for 2300 u can try this ! 1 instead of 2 !

[pastel plume]

oh the banks

[fervent pawn]

yea

[turbid gyro]

like 65k php per month

[crimson inlet]

This is mine

[turbid gyro]

[crimson inlet]

PINOY!!!!

[turbid gyro]

PINOY

[fervent pawn]

what in the world is this

[pastel plume]

PIPINO RAAAAAAAAAA

[lone pebble]

go lower !

[pastel plume]

oh the belted variant huh

[lone pebble]

for you with dige

[crimson inlet]

My specific setup using PWM/D.I.G.E. to produce power only at an average below 2300

[pastel plume]

I went with the 2400 setup

with no belts

[lone pebble]

u can add the convergers instead of the belt if u like 🙂

[crimson inlet]

you can get a 2k load demand just by having your turrets directly battery fed than grid fed.

[calm crow]

I hear php, my people?

[fervent pawn]

so what in the issue in just.... using the batteries. One machine into 4

[gloomy locust]

including meta storage how much ferrium per min do we have in wuling ?

[pastel plume]

yeah I went with the convergers

[turbid gyro]

yes

[calm crow]

MY PEOPLE

[turbid gyro]

[fading night]

Not enough

[icy meteor]

BRO WHY THE F MY PLANTING UNIT KEEPS PRODUCING YAZHEN INSTEAD IF JINCAO I'M ABOUT TO LOSE IT HERE

[lone pebble]

115

[crimson inlet]

rather than constantly feeding batteries every 40s, we feed them waay beyond that to have more batteries to sell than in the grid

[gloomy locust]

ty

[pastel plume]

looks like the pipino gang has assembled
-# I'm one as well

[calm crow]

Do you have Yahzen in the belts?

[calm crow]

Trio Pnoys

[fervent pawn]

okay but if you need the power from them then?

[pastel plume]

did a random Yahzen snuck in there?

[turbid gyro]

20php betting they have yahzen in there

[icy meteor]

I was previously producing yazhen before but I stopped the units and cleared every yazhen I could findf

[calm crow]

Rip my G-cash

[icy meteor]

motherfkcing planter keeps producing yazhen out of thin air

[bright zodiac]

pro tips, destroy the building, place a new one

or copy paste the building, use a new one

[fading night]

You missed one I guess

[lone pebble]

stop, clear all, restart , put what u need ! or havent you saw the yanhzen seed ! ?

[icy meteor]

killed my entire day of factory

[crimson inlet]

similar to Load Balancing in powerplants when a city demands change by time like peaking in day and low at night, we control the output of power generation to store it and release in peak hours, saving costs and stuff.

[calm crow]

Clear your belts when you switch, there is definitely a stray Yahzen in the belts

[icy meteor]

I'll try thank you

[pastel plume]

there should be that one random seed that messes up everything

[limber spade]

anyone ever seen/gotten a zipline up on this building in Originium Science park? I've tried using a thermal bank to boost but can't make the jump nor does it jank out zipline placement enough for me to put one up there. Sorry if its not the channel to ask about this.

[turbid gyro]

me the first time i setup a sandleaf farm and it turned into buckwheat

[crimson inlet]

bro found a bug and called it Yazhen when his jincao drink taste funny

[calm crow]

They're getting to it buddy

[calm crow]

XD

[sand pivot]

is valley pass supposed to have less space than originium science park? or did I miss out on an upgrade?

[pastel plume]

they rock the same perks

[calm crow]

Same perks and stuff

[pastel plume]

probs missed one or two

[fervent pawn]

i shall ask again. If one battery provides 1.1k, one factory can make 4.4k power with HC batteries, if you need 4.4k power, what is the point in doing it?

[lone pebble]

there all the same ! at max upgrade

[subtle falcon]

i just unlocked wuling pac, anyone got recommendations for blueprints to make asap?

[crimson inlet]

That's like finding Ibuprofen in mountain dew production line

[lone pebble]

TYTY :))

[pastel plume]

OSP, Valley Pass and Power Plat should have the same number of ups

they cost different tho

[fervent pawn]

i am genuinely asking here

[lone pebble]

science park to

[pastel plume]

too lazy to type the entire thing LMAO

so OSP it is

[crimson inlet]

OSP, VP, and PP

.pp

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331192247856922696/most_defensible_btw.gif

[lone pebble]

dont grasp the question ! ? just because it will fail on a long run to connect 4 ThB to 1 pack

[icy meteor]

bro it keeps producing yazhen out of jincao seed is the game bugged? I'm about to completely demolish this shitty ass blueprint

[pastel plume]

Finding Yahzen™

[lone pebble]

told you it was the converger belt :))

[merry wagon]

bro accidentally cultivated a hybrid species

[lone pebble]

u havent clean that

[merry wagon]

[steel shell]

check both facilities if they actually use yazhen only

[pastel plume]

check the belts

other than the insides

[steel shell]

to me it looks like a visual bug on the yazhen side

and it's actually jincao

[crimson inlet]

literally that one meme

[calm crow]

Not much really, best finish the story first

[lone pebble]

think he cleared only the belts , except this

[calm crow]

The bridge are hiding materials

The belt bridge is speaking chinese

[crimson inlet]

actual real life problem when bridge gets clogged with other stuff

[lone pebble]

build the "E" (roads) again ! make ROME great AGAIN :))

[calm crow]

Believe it or not, I accidentally clogged the airport x-ray because of my jacket lol

[lone pebble]

:)))

[lone pebble]

to much metal 🙂

[crimson inlet]

The blue collar in us is thriving in the factory

[calm crow]

It's sleeve got stuck along the metal rollers of the x-ray machine

[crimson inlet]

ouch

[lone pebble]

they should pay for dmg`s

[fervent pawn]

ok so i have been stuck on this for a bit, why would you not just do this if you only want one power bank to be active?

[calm crow]

It's not that bad lol, I did not pack it properly on my part

But I did hold up a long line

[lone pebble]

wy use 3 belts in stash when can only use 1 with same outcome !

[icy meteor]

lmfao this is literally me but I'm too drunk to deal with it now I'll figure it out after I wake up

[unreal laurel]

whats the smallest hc setup at?

[calm crow]

To delay the belt that delivers the battery

[fervent pawn]

it will take up the same sapce

[pastel plume]

I built that on the Sub-PAC

can always try that on main as that's where the main line is

[unreal laurel]

?

im trying to a 25

[calm crow]

There is enough time for the thermal bank to clog up

[crimson inlet]

there's actually 2 ways for D.I.G.E., packaging unit like these or from depot, currently, depot is the most space-flexible and a guarantee that a battery will always be saved.

[lone pebble]

for what pupose ? you cant have more then 50 in thermal bnk, and can only use 1 in40`

[crimson inlet]

• we try to reduce the use of protocol stashes for power saving and space

[calm crow]

That was the intended purpose from how I understood it. PWM's are big and take up plenty of space

[fervent pawn]

the factory produces 1p/10s, the games logic is sound enough ot evenly deliver among hte output belts, that means every belt will get 1 new battery every 40 seconds, i have looked at the power bank it runs out then immediately gets a new one

[crimson inlet]

There's a battery reserve for the grid system, max is 100,000J

1 bat has the equivalent power of 1,600W for every second

[calm crow]

Not all belts equally get used, one belt gets used twice at random order once you log out, and log back in

[crimson inlet]

while thermal banks consume a bat for 40s

[fervent pawn]

oh so this is not at all about the active game logic but the offline game logic?

[lone pebble]

this is more efficient !

[fervent pawn]

same amount of space is used

[calm crow]

A mix of both, "don't clog the battery belt" and "no power in the factory, what happened"

[crimson inlet]

so basically (LC wuling bats), generate 64,000W of energy for 40s, we keep the power below a threshold in reserve to save more batteries

[lone pebble]

something like that , or use hc bat instead ! and sell the Wbat

[crimson inlet]

note: W = J

[crimson inlet]

I don't wanna manually transfer them or rely on the 1 hour metastorage

[pastel plume]

dige's 1st out of 5 solutions gave me this for a 2400W setup

and ended up with this in-game implementation

[lone pebble]

u can transfer once 4.5k over 24h , of full depo and last a week ! for 2.4k usage

[fervent pawn]

i mean i am not going to argue with an electrical engineer when it comes ot power management. I am just generally curious as to why. In factory games i also always try to have an excess of power so i can make a new factory

[leaden drift]

this can clog

and mess up the ratios

[fossil spoke]

pls dont add belt space from the unloader toward the first splitter, it will mess the calculation

[sand pivot]

my theoretical data makes no sense, I have 6 production lines of originium dense powder, I use only 5 of them but somehow I'm in deficit

[crimson inlet]

well, some games don't let you sell your fuel source, or have the fuel be used in vehicles so you split them to a separate line.

[fossil spoke]

u need to place the splitter directly infront of the unloaderr

[fervent pawn]

i mean the two main games i have played are factorio, selling is not a thing there. And Satisfactory, fuel is not somethign you sell

[leaden drift]

thats only if ur doing a feedback loop

[fossil spoke]

because endfield electricity is not the same as factorio (if thats the factory game u mentioned)

[lone pebble]

sendpic

[pastel plume]

hmmm gotta reposition those stashes

[crimson inlet]

I'm too lazy

[turbid gyro]

[fervent pawn]

so if i use laymans terms you edge the power to squeeze out a few extra batteries?

[calm crow]

Making excess power would be good if you have strong another power storage.

But with Endfield, we don't have a battery pack that can store something like 2 Gigawatts of charge that you don't need to use Wuling batteries for 1 week, something like that

[crimson inlet]

yes

[lone pebble]

NO SYMETRYYYY

[crimson inlet]

I earn more by saving

[turbid gyro]

it's actually very symmetry

[lone pebble]

youre cloging somewere around the line

[crimson inlet]

Symmetry

[fervent pawn]

that is way to much math for me to do when i come home from college doing math. I will stick to figuring out my own solutions

[fossil spoke]

well, DIGE never mentioned feedback loop and the warning about splitter placement is there on old version of DIGE, so its just better to built it like DIGE says

[fervent pawn]

more fun that way, even if they are not perfect

[calm crow]

I don't even have one

[leaden drift]

ive had mine running for a few days now havent had any issues

[lone pebble]

omg the pipe sistem !!!!

[pastel plume]

how about this one

[crimson inlet]

I do math just to explain to other people, you aren't required to do actual math, just add the target power you want, max excess for flexibility, and a threshold for battery reserves and D.I.G.E. will calculate it for you

that's how I got this

[pastel plume]

gotta reposition the pylon later on

[fossil spoke]

good for you then, I will keep doing just like DIGE says, so if something broke I can just make GH issue on DIGE github

[fervent pawn]

what in the world is DIGE

[fossil spoke]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[sand pivot]

wait

[crimson inlet]

When a chinese Electrical Engineer applied PWM, another chinese dude made this to improve his design

[calm crow]

When I saw the water outside of the camp, I was like, "Oh shit, can you water pump this??"

[fervent pawn]

xd

[sand pivot]

no like in theory everything should be fine

so idk why I'm in a dense originium deficit

[leaden drift]

i have turned of protocol stashes

[lone pebble]

wy like this ? u use 1 sandlef for 3 grinders !

[calm crow]

Valley or Wuling?

[leaden drift]

allviates clogs

[sand pivot]

V4

[leaden drift]

i just turned down my battery usage to 2.35

[crimson inlet]

1 sandleaf = 3 powder

[sand pivot]

I use 1 sandleaf for 2 grinders

[calm crow]

I think you have systems like the AIC station that has Originum set to go, but no belt connected

[sand pivot]

I don't care about the additional sandleaf powder that gets wasted

it's not concerning at all

[crimson inlet]

[sand pivot]

plus it'd not allow me to keep the symmetry

[lone pebble]

i saw ! and the stash is put betwen them ! cand have 1 more grinder in it !

dont make me remodel a base to prove wrong :))can have 6 grinder in perfect line :))

[leaden drift]

<1d

[analog elbow]

Headquarters Ping

[crimson inlet]

Symmetry

[sand pivot]

aand where do I get the originium from?

cause I don't have space on the bus depot

nor on the sub-pac

so there's really no point putting another grinder

when I can't feed it with resources for it to work xD

[fossil spoke]

now have a negative ping (instead of u receiving data from the server, u were the one that validate the server) XD
/j

[analog elbow]

The best i can do is 0 or 1

[lone pebble]

u have the full base with 5 depos !

6 grinders !

[crimson inlet]

best I can do is 81

[sand pivot]

that's what I have

[lone pebble]

simetrical :)))

u can have 6 grinders in a base lined up !

dont know on what u use ress on , on the other bases

[sand pivot]

I have 7

[young stag]

i think i need to start doing deliveries again

[fossil spoke]

talking about ping, I still wonder why endfield, A GACHA GAME has lower ping than example: APEX or VALORANT on my internet

[sand pivot]

2 from subpac, 5 from bus depot

[leaden drift]

ive been still doing them

just transfereing my power plateu ones

[sand pivot]

I can't use another grinder, I don't have bus depot space to feed 2 originium and 1 sandleaf to the grinder

[fossil spoke]

competitive game should have better server placement imo, its bad when their ping is higher than endfield

[crimson inlet]

ping is only restricted to yourself man, you may get high ping by chatting or loading some stuff

[lone pebble]

from the S=pac correct , but can have 8 😄

[fossil spoke]

ping is affected by server location too (major)

and im not chatting when playing competitive games

[proper ravine]

and network load

[sand pivot]

how?

I don't have space for more originium or sandleaf

so how do I feed the additional grinder?

[fossil spoke]

network load doesnt affect ping btw

[lone pebble]

jive me 10 min , need to remodel !

[fossil spoke]

its just time how long it takes from each hops to the server and back

[leaden drift]

if you place the depot loaders themselves on the edges

[proper ravine]

if it cant be read because there is too much traffic

[leaden drift]

u can fit two more depot loaders

[proper ravine]

ping increases

[sand pivot]

but then where do I place the shredders 😅

like the shredders that connect to the bus depot?

[leaden drift]

stagger

[sand pivot]

not symmetric!

asymmetric rather

[crimson inlet]

design one:
ori-sand-ori
grinder

[fossil spoke]

u cant have too much traffic if the isp configure their network stack properly

either the isp suck (hardware quality)

or

the routing is bad

[leaden drift]

isnt it already assymetic

[sand pivot]

yeah lowkey cause it's 5 instead of 6

couldn't pair it properly

[crimson inlet]

back in the early days of Philippine Wifi, 25Mbps speed costs around ₱1k per week

[proper ravine]

tell that to ddos attackers

[fossil spoke]

ddos doesnt aim isp, wdym bro

they aim CDN

[leaden drift]

i feel like 6 is super doable

[fossil spoke]

it can overload isp hardware

but isp is not the objective

[crimson inlet]

Our (former) president forced telcos ISP to improve their service or be removed from national usage (this includes their sim service and towers being removed or bidded to other companies)

[fossil spoke]

thats.... EXPENSIVE

[proper ravine]

ddos attacks can attack servers

[glad needle]

guys, is there a way to connect these 2 areas with ziplines?

[fossil spoke]

yeah, but isp doesnt have server (for network usage)

they have enterprise grade routers

switch

and etc

[proper ravine]

why limit to 1 isp

[leaden drift]

i believe theres a massive invisible wall box there so no unfortunately

[fossil spoke]

u're the one that correlate ddos to isp.....

[crimson inlet]

Telecommunications and WiFi service in here is a monopoly

[glad needle]

yea but im asking if there's a bug which let you fly high with yvonne lae tech

[fossil spoke]

is it government / country owned ?

[crimson inlet]

Private

like, privately owned companies

idk if PLDT is country owned or not

[fossil spoke]

sadge

it doesnt have any competitor ?

[crimson inlet]

since it literally has Philippine in the name

[crimson inlet]

it does, but they agree on some stuff in the side

(they just started to add fibre optic wires in here)

[fossil spoke]

like just now ?

1 - 2 years range ?

[crimson inlet]

technically, last year, but yeah, full force rn

since the whole controversy with the literal public works department made the government concern for the public's trust on them

[fossil spoke]

monopoly is bad....

[proper ravine]

oof, some of these ddos attacks reach 7.7Tbps

[crimson inlet]

imagine spending 5mil and not showing literal progress for 10 years except for loose concrete in an area that is unaffected by the issue that the spending reasoned, and its nation wide.

[lone pebble]

bk, there you go !

[crimson inlet]

holy bitrate

I thought I was lagging for a sec, it was actually the video

[fossil spoke]

squaress

[proper ravine]

i like watching videos in microsoft paint

[crimson inlet]

drawing santa

[leaden drift]

you could do this

[proper ravine]

hang on, try one of mine

spent all day yesterday making a lc battery line in 1 blueprint

[sand pivot]

could you like take ss of the whole production line pls? I couldn't see cause of the bitrate :/

I will fix it tomorrow cause it's late just @ me and I will check in the morning

also tysm for the help!

[fossil spoke]

is discord support HEVC embed ?

[crimson inlet]

game feedback:
add a chat in game tools specifically for factory discusions with LaTex, Mathjax, Mhchem, and SI units support, along with a chart visualizer.

[fossil spoke]

since we can upload low bitrate videos with same quality as H264 one

[lone pebble]

you can fully see it at sec 13-14

[sand pivot]

idk if I will have much space though cause of my plants

[unreal laurel]

whats the smallest hc setup

[crimson inlet]

this /jk

[atomic fiber]

cool

[sand pivot]

this is why I broke down my factory

[rain hull]

Im uploading 2 HC Valley batteries rn blue prints, u asia?

[sand pivot]

imagine having this cluster f of production lines 😭

[crimson inlet]

"If it works, it works" design, yes?

[crimson inlet]

I'm asia but I don't want to bothrr redesigning this

[rain hull]

Good good

[sand pivot]

tysm, I'm saving this video

I will fix the production tomorrow

[leaden drift]

isnt one missing an input

[rain hull]

Sharing my double HC Battery Factory on Sub-PAC blueprints.

Designed to be non-clogging on sandleaf factory, the leftover sandleaf powder will be sent into depot via protocol stash, ensuring all the facilities running at 100% efficiency and work load as long the leftover sandleaf is being used on other grinders in other Sub-PACs or Core AIC.

This Code is for Asia, so i might need some help from America/Eur accs to replicate these blueprints
SubBatt-R: EFO01A7uUi3eA6Ee891eO
SubBatt-L: EFO018Ieo3iu8O1A5Ui73

How to use:

1. Import blueprints
2. Stash all facilities on Sub-PAC, rotate the map so the Depot Section is at top side)
3. Put PAC on bottom right (away from Depot Section)
4. Set 14 Depot unloader, 12 of which is centered within AIC Area, the other 2 is put partially (1 tile) outside of AIC area.
5. Set depot unloaders to unload Originium Ore except two that partially goes beyond AIC area, these 2 are set to unload Ferrium ore
6. Set all PAC-integrated unloader to unload Ferrium Ore
7. Deploy SubBatt-L blueprints on left side
8. Move PAC to the bottom center area, matching the deployed blueprint.
9. Deploy SubBatt-R blueprints on right side
10. Put sandleaf on both Sand-Picking Unit.
11. Enjoy

[proper ravine]

[Asia] EFO011946OE70eU2i34O7

[lone pebble]

nope 6 total , plus 5 down !

[rain hull]

Interesting, u put Forge of sky aand battery production line together

[lone pebble]

3 L 3R 1Dl 1DR +3dust !

[sand pivot]

@proper ravine I think it is

third one from the left only has 1 originium powder input instead of 2

[proper ravine]

its the whole production line, including plant growing

[sand pivot]

wait wrong ping

I meant @leaden drift

[leaden drift]

@lone pebble

[lone pebble]

seems so couse of the merging ! but no !

[young stag]

help how do i place ziplines out of bounds like this

[sand pivot]

check again, the ss yushwa sent

[rain hull]

Holdup, what's the limit area that can be saved as blue prints?

i thought it was 40

[sand pivot]

it's supposed to be 2 originium powder

and it only has 1

[leaden drift]

fudge man i endfield factory too much

[sand pivot]

so yeah basically what I was saying, you can technically put 6 but it won't work

[proper ravine]

50 max

[sand pivot]

well, it will work

[lone pebble]

correct !

[sand pivot]

just not efficiently

[leaden drift]

you can

just not in valley pass

[crimson inlet]

its ok man, you're not an EE anymore, you're a CivE

[lone pebble]

not that one, yes ! ive put 8 :)) 1 not working at 1/2 speed 😄

[sand pivot]

well, the point is putting it in VP cause I have 3 bucks A in my core 😅

[lone pebble]

yap , he can adapt the outs , so it will fit one more !

[sand pivot]

either way though, even at half efficiency it might fix my deficit

[lone pebble]

he can adapt the out to fit one more , correct

[atomic fiber]

parkour, infinite jump trick, passing wall trick using Ardelia.

go to youtube how to do it.
too lazy to explain the detail

[rain hull]

Ah yes,, that packaging unit is for yazhen/jincao stuffs right?
a three in one setup, interesting

[sand pivot]

my deficit is only 30, idk how much one produces per minute

[sand pivot]

if someone can do the math, I'm too tired for that lowkey

[proper ravine]

wanted to make it 100% of the production in the space of all the depot unloaders (6 unloaders)

[sand pivot]

cause it's 4AM

[lone pebble]

and with this fixes the one ive missed

[crimson inlet]

another umbral announced, time to speedrun

tomorrow

[proper ravine]

it's just batteries

[sand pivot]

I might have to fk around a bit with the shredders, but I will try this tomorrow

[crimson inlet]

Give us construction helmets as skins

[lone pebble]

sand leaf shred after the 3.rd one , splits perfectly in 3 direction

[crimson inlet]

Give us these

[lone pebble]

omg again 5.30! pff :)) goin for some coffe

[rain hull]

.... thats why i said Forge of sky and battery production line together

[rain hull]

got me confused for a sec

[leaden drift]

this is half

[lone pebble]

u can use 1 plant for 2 carbon ! and lose some space !

[atomic fiber]

cool

[uneven aspen]

why not use jizen/yazhen instead of sandleaf for the carbon

[atomic fiber]

not everyone know that I think

[proper ravine]

because you cant

[lone pebble]

? lol u can

[lone pebble]

Ten explain

[rain hull]

u might wanna something like this

[leaden drift]

im aiming to similar to what they already have

[atomic fiber]

this game have secret formula

[proper ravine]

well, ill try. if you can, the shit is gonna be compact

[rain hull]

the main difference is the sandleaf shredder is put between grinder and ore shredder

[lone pebble]

or even 3 sand powder to 2 carbon powder :))

[leaden drift]

the only thing the person was making was the cubes

[uneven aspen]

tried making this more compact but feels impossible manage it make it go from 17 height to 16 though

[leaden drift]

either way its a proof of concept that 6 can be done

[rain hull]

exactly

[atomic fiber]

cool

[proper ravine]

... *you have now found the formula for carbon.... (piss offf) XD

[lone pebble]

well u can 🙂 mvoe the sanleaf 1 to the right ! will split even ! and take the X out from AIC !

[leaden drift]

mines 24x 15

[proper ravine]

well, time to spend a bit more time compaxcting it

[leaden drift]

not include sandleaf maker

[lone pebble]

or make it in a corner !

[atomic fiber]

cool

[lone pebble]

just 1 question wy 2 belts of X ?

[leaden drift]

one syphons 1/3 xiranite

[rain hull]

i dont like unloading plants from depot unloader, i prefer it like this

[atomic fiber]

that look great too

[uneven aspen]

hmm was wondering how to do packaging unit like that

[lone pebble]

sry thought it was an out not in !

[thin raptor]

Hey yall, so this is the only thing I don't understand about the factory system, using industrial explosives as the example item

Does this mean I need to have 5 amethyst part producers for 1 aketine powder producer?
And if another item requires 10 of X and 10 of Y to make 1 of Z, does that mean I need 10 X producers and 10 Y producers just to make 1 of Z..?

[uneven aspen]

yeah probably more compact, but i also like having the shredders not be awkward but I should also explore this way too

[lone pebble]

x&y

for Z

[atomic fiber]

1 belt have the speed of 1 item every 2 seconds.

so because belt is 0.5/sec speed. in 10 seconds, 1 belt can already give 5 amethyst part

[leaden drift]

the powder is just kinda there

[atomic fiber]

amd this also mean 1 belt of aketine powder can be split into 5! (you don't really need to split) and it will still be enough

[thin raptor]

OHHH, i understand! that's a great answer thank you

how much does extending the belt length affect speed?

[rain hull]

when u wanna thing very compact u cannot think of aethetics, gotta make it fit. Engineers' brain

[lone pebble]

none

[jovial breach]

Belts have fixed speed

[atomic fiber]

belt length won't effect speed. splitting the belt using splitter does affect it

[thin raptor]

oh they don't affect like, production times at all either?

[rain hull]

nope

[leaden drift]

start from 0 production yes but if in full production no

[atomic fiber]

production time? i don't understand

[lone pebble]

if u dont split or converge , no

belt , 1tile or 10tiles or 50 tiles , cary 1 unit /2 seconds

[leaden drift]

but you shouldnt be starting from 0 production

[thin raptor]

ohhh okay it just clicked for me why that makes sense, OK

thanks all, very helpful and appreciate answering the dumb question lmao

[leaden drift]

no problem

[jovial breach]

[rain hull]

I dont understand how in the hell Current Data can yield bigger than Theoretical Data?????

look at that ferrium ore

[atomic fiber]

do you have belt that go back to your depot? like excess Ferrium belt

[rain hull]

nope

[lone pebble]

ypu have a cloged somewere

[thin raptor]

wait, so just to clarify -- so this WILL mean i would have a x5 powder surplus in this one process that i'd be losing effective usage of, right?

#aic-factory message

[rain hull]

nope, if its clogged the yield and usage will show the same number

[atomic fiber]

dunno then... probably need to see all the factory to check, but kinda lazy

[lone pebble]

you wont be losint it ! it will be in the molder, fitting grinder or whatever unit u use

and will get cloged (meanig belt will stop)

[atomic fiber]

you will have surplus of aketine powder yes

[unreal laurel]

I can't do it....

[atomic fiber]

for the number of surplus.
it's
25/min Aketine powder surplus

[unreal laurel]

The 30x25 hc is out of my reach.....

[nova pilot]

I have the same problem

[rain hull]

Nope, u r normal

[atomic fiber]

ah... but just like kido said it will probably just clog your system anyway, so you won't get the surplus

[rain hull]

Current yield HAS to be same or lower that theoritical data

[lone pebble]

you can go 21-40 or 36/19 !

[rain hull]

i can go 30x21 actually
edit: w8, it was 25 lol, although its a combo with gearing blue prints

[unreal laurel]

Fuck no,why do u always say or do the most outlandish things

[unreal laurel]

Cap

[nova pilot]

mb gng I'm stupid and only saw that red Usage in Theoretical 😭

[lone pebble]

u sad u cant make 30x25 ! i gave you 2 other options !アノニーメ, gave u another one

[unreal laurel]

There's a goddamn reason I want that specific size

[unreal laurel]

Does it use a corner

Cause I'm building it in the sub pac

[lone pebble]

corner in subpac ?

[unreal laurel]

Only compromise I can make is 31x25

[unreal laurel]

Im starting to think kido is just long for kid or kido is actually how you spell it cause no way you couldn't understand that sentence

[rain hull]

it shouldnt be, lemme check my bp for a moment

[unreal laurel]

It is isn't 100% efficient, it doesn't count

[lone pebble]

cant find any corner in any of S-pac`s :)) please share

[unreal laurel]

Definitely a kid

[lone pebble]

so please enlight me :)) were are the corners ! :))

that u cant use

[unreal laurel]

I'm literally looking at the sentence, there isn't any ambiguity in there

[proper ravine]

lol, that recipe change saved me 4 length, might fit in an s-pac

[unreal laurel]

How tf did u get that interpretation of the sentence

[small creek]

what do we think abt this alluvium setup

[unreal laurel]

Interesting

[leaden drift]

needs plasma upgrades on the super monkey

[proper ravine]

are you hoping to afk it or something

[lone pebble]

wy use the thermal ?

[small creek]

yea ill afk in the thermal banks

[small creek]

basically walls so any knockback wont put my controlled character outside

[leaden drift]

alot of protocol usage

[lone pebble]

true ! but still can use the W towers as well

[rain hull]

w8, it was 25 lol, although its a combo with gearing blue prints

[small creek]

im 172/200, its fine lol

[proper ravine]

the true end game boss

[leaden drift]

i keep hitting it in wuling and power plateu

[spring orchid]

Protocol usage is such a buzzkill for AIC area

[small creek]

i have absolutely nothing in power plateau lmao

wuling is problematic, but thankfully the pipe logistic pcs dont count

[leaden drift]

i have so many wacko ziplines

[lone pebble]

@Caballovonfuerza7671 i`m still w8-ing fot that corner !

[small creek]

so i use those to block there instead

[leaden drift]

i hit protocol max in valley pass once

i used way too many logisitics

[small creek]

thats awesome...

im 20 facilities away from max protocol there

[leaden drift]

I was min maxing early game LOL

[small creek]

tested with pylons

[proper ravine]

i wanted more protocol so i could continue my perfectly squared and straight grid XD

[small creek]

holy 0 sanity

[leaden drift]

i have to redo some of my old ziplines

[lone pebble]

now this is sanity to its limits:))

[leaden drift]

they be outdated

[small creek]

this bitch med tower does not heal fast enough

[leaden drift]

add another one

https://tenor.com/view/dj-khaled-another-one-one-gif-5057861

[small creek]

done 🔥

[proper ravine]

really not looking forward to trying the perfect grid in wuling

[leaden drift]

so many invisible walls

[proper ravine]

soo frustrating

[livid cairn]

why putting thermal bank there?

[proper ravine]

took me forever to get on top of some of the mountains

[leaden drift]

i think i have every big one

[lone pebble]

monsters will need a hitting permit

[leaden drift]

2 by core AIC one by the rare gathering and one by the tp node at maint zone

[livid cairn]

[lone pebble]

just hit play , and afk :))

[fervent stratus]

*Was doing delivery....
*Picking up Buck-muk
*Forgot about the delivery and entered a battle
RIP my Wuling Bills lol

[lone pebble]

use zip`s 🙂

[atomic fiber]

grief maxing speedrun ssg

[fervent stratus]

I have zip but I forgot I was doing delivery LOL

[lone pebble]

some do like to walk , when making dellivery`s :))

[atomic fiber]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1471166274590474320

people complaining about that lol

[unreal laurel]

is 31x24 hc technically smaller?

[atomic fiber]

from what

[unreal laurel]

30x25

[proper ravine]

to be fair, it aint hard to get to the destination with no damage

[autumn fern]

she good?

[lone pebble]

smaller then what ?

[knotty egret]

i think im good

[atomic fiber]

31x24 = 744
30×25 = 750

[unreal laurel]

i pray that youre a kid,cause if youre not,you got the most fried brain ive ever seen

[autumn fern]

wee...

[proper ravine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/SWAG-deez-nuts-B3Q78yR2JPH4Kov4nf

[spring orchid]

Strongest arts amplifier support rn

[lone pebble]

well he dident gave a context , and could not remeber the other size he talked about

[unreal laurel]

wtf dym he

[proper ravine]

good grouper as well

[unreal laurel]

my brain dies trying to comprehend what u type

[lone pebble]

https://giphy.com/gifs/espn-dc-daniel-cormier-cake-and-chicken-Acdf7UpyqPRboz3QGn

[lone pebble]

still w8-ing for that picture with the corner u wanted !

[sudden glen]

Best at her job

[unreal laurel]

i never wanted a corner hc

wtf is wrong with u

your brain doing ok?

[lone pebble]

u sad you wanted to fit in a corner !

[unreal laurel]

i asked if the 30x21 was in a corner because im building in the sub pac which has no corner

[crude nebula]

Me after pick up transfered deliveries but accidentally choose wrong zipline path, then use TP to the nearest drop point: i'm sorry that i'm lazy to run back

[autumn fern]

I replace ardelia?

[leaden drift]

nooooo

[atomic fiber]

but she cute

[crude nebula]

Literally me like 3 hours ago

[knotty egret]

#help this is factory channel

[young stag]

this is the multipurpose channel smh

[lone pebble]

well , say that straight :)) not in loops :)) u can have 50xhow much you need in the s=pac

[young stag]

only one with no cooldown and img perms

[livid cairn]

you guys use zipline for delivery?

[crude nebula]

I had 2 separate zipline for north and northeast

[knotty egret]

ok mb

[young stag]

yes??

[lone pebble]

so 30 , gose well in there

[leaden drift]

yeah its free

[unreal laurel]

i already said i need the specific size for a reason

[livid cairn]

I've been walking entire time

[crude nebula]

So you run through wuling city?

[proper ravine]

This is with no farms in the build

[livid cairn]

yes

all map

run

[crude nebula]

Bruh 600m per delivery

[proper ravine]

some nearly 1k

[crude nebula]

Or 1k if you pick the one near AIC

Yes that one

[proper ravine]

as the bird flies as well

[crude nebula]

I recommend to use TP at this point

20% won't kill the item

[lone pebble]

or u can multiply unloaders (x3) with how many u can fit and see the max lenght u can use !

[crude nebula]

Because they already broken

[livid cairn]

I've been considering to use zipline, problem is I need to rewire all my relay

[unreal laurel]

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE WORD SPECIFIC MEANS

i need the size i stated because its the only size that works

[lone pebble]

yes, but not put in a context , of wy ! we cant gues !

[livid cairn]

it reduce the payout, is it really fine?

[leaden drift]

if your running 1k

[lone pebble]

so it cant be bigger ?

[leaden drift]

please

[crude nebula]

Adjust it to be as close as your current relay, that's how i do it

[unreal laurel]

the context is irrelevent because as i said,i need that exact size with the only comprimise being 31x24

[crude nebula]

I usually run until i'm becoming too lazy to run

[leaden drift]

ive been rewiring my zipline system

[crude nebula]

[leaden drift]

im surprised there isnt a zipline chat

[crude nebula]

Being lazy is the key for automation

[livid cairn]

yes, that is true

[unreal laurel]

im getting too lazy to zipline

[crude nebula]

From the 73k you will get 60k

[leaden drift]

nah the key is wanting to be lazy so you over engineer the solution so you can be lazy

[small creek]

walls so u dont fly away when u get hit

[uneven aspen]

hmm now it's 14 height i think this is the limit for this kind of approach

[livid cairn]

then I see Originium Lodespring, such mess of wire

[unreal laurel]

uhhhh

[small creek]

that looks cool

[unreal laurel]

i think theres better

[crude nebula]

You still can squeeze it tho

Idk how tho

[cold bear]

what happens if i put it here? it shows those wifi bars at the top

[livid cairn]

it wont run

[crude nebula]

Yeah, i even become picky on what transfered deliveries to choose

[cold bear]

oh 😂 yea it got closed off

[leaden drift]

u wont be able to use belts

[cold bear]

yea 🙁 darn

[small creek]

use finger but belt

[leaden drift]

power plataeu or wuling thats all i ever do

[lone pebble]

wont work

[leaden drift]

it will work

just cant belt it

[crude nebula]

I choose only wuling 60k+ or no more transfered that day

[lone pebble]

think you can make it at 13 !

[proper ravine]

[Asia] EFO01A7uUo8Oe5EI89ieO

[livid cairn]

rewire the relay now is kinda imposible since CPU problem is not fixed yet, I'm too lazy to restart the game

[crude nebula]

What CPU problem?

[uneven aspen]

maybe will look into it if i feel in the mood

[livid cairn]

CPU can rise to +80 celcius after sometime playing

[proper ravine]

is that all?

[crude nebula]

It's time to upgrade your PC

[leaden drift]

unless u go wider i dont think 13 is possible

[livid cairn]

it happen randomly

[crude nebula]

I always use turbo mode on my laptop when playing games with high graphic settings

[livid cairn]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465851381175943451

[crude nebula]

If not, then i set it as low as i can like on my phone

[proper ravine]

here i am with a 7 yr old laptop, and is currently sucking in Australian Summer

[crude nebula]

You can cook breakfast with it?

[livid cairn]

almost :v

[proper ravine]

not far from it

[livid cairn]

I want this for my factory

[proper ravine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/lets-cook-build-in-public-cooking-software-U1ZxG73jBz2X1ic8se

[cold bear]

huh? why it is not "seeding"?

[proper ravine]

you are using planting unit

[crude nebula]

I want Shu to plant amber rice on my manual plant farm so it become lore accurate

[unreal laurel]

its a planter.....

not a seed picker

[crude nebula]

Wrong machine brother

[cold bear]

@proper ravine @unreal laurel omg im so stupid. forget what i said 😂 THANK YOU GUYSS

[unreal laurel]

atleast u werent the dumb fuck who filled their planters manually

[proper ravine]

or drained a 40k litre pond using only bottles

by hand

[crude nebula]

You drained it, i drinked it

[unreal laurel]

thats more determination than stupidity depending on whether or not the person forgot abt the pump

[crude nebula]

I just put 2 pumps and go to other mission, because you'll get notification for it when it's done

[uneven aspen]

filled it in now it's cursed.

[proper ravine]

probably just a challenge

[proper ravine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/avalbano-what-wtf-avalbanoir-JUIYjVeZPHxjWR7rmX

[atomic fiber]

digestive tact design

[unreal laurel]

AHHHH

[crude nebula]

Now make the bottom belt knitting eachother

3 lines, perferct for it

[unreal laurel]

i got a better idea

replace every single belt with a converger

throw in some bridgers too if know how

[cold bear]

Hi, sorry, but is there a way for the game to tell me what all these can do? Like, what other items I can craft out of these? Because I want to know how I can benefit from one of these items 😅

[lone pebble]

26*13 ! in height could not get smaller then 13 !

[crimson inlet]

The rabbit hole in using Mathjax

[unreal laurel]

wanna bet on that

[lone pebble]

info the item !

[cold bear]

THANK YOU!

[lone pebble]

no , couseyoul get more L after that !

u have that right icon on any item that u click from bag or anywre else , if u clik it give the all info

[crude nebula]

That icon literally everywhere

Any place where you can click item to open the item information window

[lone pebble]

were not all that smart , remeber i`m just a kid with a fried brain to @unreal laurel sayngs 😄

[valid kindle]

is there any guide to help me upgrade the base to max quickly :v, or i have to wait day by days to make the "Stock Bill" >?

[crude nebula]

I just spam esc then go to the information book thing honestly

[lone pebble]

selling materials in town

[unreal laurel]

U dumbf
I said kid OR fried brain

[lone pebble]

that is goin to be much mroe complicated :))

[lone pebble]

u used them both in 1 sentence :))

[crude nebula]

Why not both, he said

[valid kindle]

yeh i have to wait day by days to sell materials

[lone pebble]

true elastic good ,as much as you unlocked

[crude nebula]

It's more like reflect for me, i just always click esc somehow

[lone pebble]

and depo node

[uneven aspen]

do you know the sell at friend's ship trick?

[lone pebble]

dont think he dose ! elaborate pls )

[lone pebble]

talking about DJ , havent dome mine yet :))

[crude nebula]

Maybe he accidentally close the tutorial, be positive guys

[lone pebble]

i found out true a video :)) dident pay atention to the tutorial

[livid cairn]

dont forget task from Forward Obsevation Station (if I'm not mistaken)

[crude nebula]

Random mobs sometimes drop, but less than 100 per kill

[lone pebble]

and drop after x amount

[crude nebula]

I think its around 37 in wuling

[lone pebble]

hes talking about v4 , hes starting

[crude nebula]

Um not sure there, since most of the time i'm in wuling running around doing nothing

Else the elastic goods the only way, but you must spend first, so the only fastest solution is helping with transfered deliveries

[cold bear]

Is there a Planting/Seeding or like Infinite tricks for these two?

[crude nebula]

On dijiang planter

[jovial breach]

Growth chamber

[crude nebula]

Dijiang level 4 iirc

[cold bear]

ohhh that one. hmmm okie. thanks

it was locked

[lone pebble]

but remeber to extract seed first !

[safe cloak]

What do u guys think of my tower lines chat? (Don't mind the hub base and mountain trail)

[leaden drift]

i could have messed up somewhere....some1 check

[crude nebula]

Just farm the owl, you'll reach it after some times

[cold bear]

oh okie. thank you!

so i will talk to him then

[crude nebula]

To who , i mean the material owl thing

[cold bear]

OH i thought andre 😅

that lil owl on the machine? okok i will interact with it

[crude nebula]

Yes that thing

[uneven aspen]

splitters = depotunloader? then it's still 14 i think

[crude nebula]

Damn i'm so bad at remembering things

[cold bear]

nono its my bad. thanks btw for the info!

[rain hull]

Damn, somehow i reworked the spaces and managed to get 30x23, corner setup with 2 sandleaf unloader tho

putting another sandleaf factory makes it weirder and it has to go 25 instead of 23

[leaden drift]

damn

i tried

it does look cool af tho

[uneven aspen]

yup and it's always fun messing around

[leaden drift]

yeah 13 is impossible

the middle shreeder

[lone pebble]

MY CORNER OF DEATH

[uneven aspen]

the idea does make sense though to move xiranite to the middle to try to move everything up by 1

[rain hull]

u makin waht with this?

[lone pebble]

was just the free space leftover 🙂 i have 3 buchA in HUb !

the small fry is making buckC

[leaden drift]

i got it to look cool

[small creek]

and use more fac count...

[leaden drift]

to make it 1 shorter you made it 2 wider

[small creek]

its not inline anymore tho

[lone pebble]

if remove stash , and not dependetn on the pylars , can make it smaller

[lone pebble]

but u have 24 from start ! and then going down 13 !

[leaden drift]

24x15

with a xiranite splitter

[cold bear]

how do i expand my blueprint? or do i have to figure stuff out on my own?

[lone pebble]

it has a max capacity that u can put in

[cold bear]

because i know there's way more than this 😅

[cold bear]

ohh i see

[proper ravine]

[Asia] EFO01u8U3ieao10a8AoOU

[leaden drift]

go through story a bit more

there should be a storey with getting the yellow string dudes

[cold bear]

okiee

[lone pebble]

those are the story/mission`s blue prints to help you start ! u can make youre own or import !

[leaden drift]

while in ur aic

[cold bear]

oh so like literally experiment and stuff with these machines?? tat's kinda cool 😮 ty

[cold bear]

oh the AIC thingy. okie ty

[lone pebble]

example of a blueprint . you select the construction that u made click save and they end up like this so u can implement faster later !

[cold bear]

that's neat. thankss

[lone pebble]

and u can create youre own, by cheking that "info" i sad about earlyer ! u can fin there a pin! so you have it on AIC when you are building

yey 30 pulls next hero :D:D

[ancient charm]

What is the best resource one can produce without using ferrium or originium

[analog elbow]

SANDLEAF

[lone pebble]

you took it out :)) not fair

[ancient charm]

Needs to sell for stocks

[crude nebula]

bomb thing

[analog elbow]

Force them to eat sandleaf

[lone pebble]

amethist bottle !

[ancient charm]

Do they actually count?

[crude nebula]

eh wait stocks, nothing then

all the item require ferrium and originium

[lone pebble]

or amethist part ! if u dont wana use ori originium or ferrium

[ancient charm]

I still have amethyst quota unused, and I want to increase stock bills output

[crude nebula]

amethyst only on 2nd plot i think

[proper ravine]

What's the dimensions on that?

ive got this:

[lone pebble]

with amethis u can create amethist bottle or parts and seel it in refugee camp

[ancient charm]

Im at lvl 4, those arent items u can sell

[leaden drift]

fluffy jincao powder

[ancient charm]

Ok ffs lemme be more specific in V4

[lone pebble]

then BUCK A :)) ot HC

[proper ravine]

i use them for crates

[leaden drift]

FIre Buckle powder

[ancient charm]

Bruh whatpart of no ori or ferrium do you not get

[lone pebble]

then buck C ! but need flower !

[ancient charm]

Ok, Im gonna say more specifically, in V4, what is the best item (that can be sold for stock bills) do not require originium or ferrium, basically the only ore used is amethyst

[leaden drift]

amethyst bottle if selling fast

[lone pebble]

buck B (need a flower) , amethist bottle and part ! lol

[ancient charm]

Bro there's nowhere to sell those

[lone pebble]

sry , youre right !