aic-factory

[crimson inlet]

damn, I'm still not getting Laev's sig. essence

[broken apex]

? Game should've given u enough to hit pity

[small creek]

Peak factory gameplay

[lucid narwhal]

In that case I did something very very very wrong

[crimson inlet]

wait, it has pity?

[fossil spoke]

@lucid narwhal heres my wuling plant loop, its not that space efficient cos I make the carbon maker as "attachment" rather than specialized build

[broken apex]

Yeah should be like 8 issues the first time

[fossil spoke]

the actual full build is just for wuling plan generator

[lucid narwhal]

thanks, you got a code for that blueprint there?

oh I am...confused

how are you getting the powder

[fossil spoke]

but it doesnt have the carbon refinerry included

[crimson inlet]

so, every 8 grind of essence for laev's signature weapon, you get a pity chance for a full 3:3?

[lucid narwhal]

oh okay

[fossil spoke]

check the refinery there

u can experiment with it @lucid narwhal

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO017i89oUa66554O0Ai. Copy it and use it in the game.

[paper magnet]

very very wrong yes

[fossil spoke]

its SEA tho, so if u play on different game server region, u cant input the BP

[lucid narwhal]

yeah AIC gameplayis genuinely torture for me so I needed to come here for help >_<

oh shoot I am in NA region

[fossil spoke]

here, Im just gonna send u an image instead

[lucid narwhal]

I wish I could be like you guys

[fossil spoke]

u will be there soon

the factory must grow

[lucid narwhal]

it's just not fun for me. The problem solving is not enjoyable

[fossil spoke]

ahh, just use BP then

[lucid narwhal]

this is my first factory game. I have not had any experience like in Satisfactory and Factorio

but now I am wondering how I go on making the sandleaf efficient, now

[fossil spoke]

and here for the xiranite screenshot (ignore the clog, because its not actually clogging)

[lucid narwhal]

mein gott

[fossil spoke]

about sandleaf......, we all stuck in 2 planter 1 seed formation

[lucid narwhal]

I am sending feedback to the devs to simplify xiranite next patch

[merry wagon]

understandable, not everyone likes factory gameplay

[fossil spoke]

yeah

but, endfield is kinda a good entry way toward factory gameplay

since my friend enjoy endfield more rather than satisfactory (he died when doing satisfactory pipes)

[lucid narwhal]

this game made me not want to buy factory games at all so I'm glad I got exposure to this lol

[merry wagon]

there's a free factory game if you wanna try more, mindustry

[lucid narwhal]

so now I can just come here if I need advice which is great because you all have the braincells, while I'm sharing mine with Chen and Tangtang

[fossil spoke]

well atleast you already knew the chaos

[fossil spoke]

😭

[lucid narwhal]

[merry wagon]

imagine if mobs can actually destroy our factory

[fossil spoke]

FACTORIO

[lucid narwhal]

I think I'm mainly upset because I spent weeks trying to optimize, and most of my gameplay ISN'T even combat...it's trying to set my factory up for a single item, then tearing it down for another item later on

only to find out I did it wrong, therefore wasting my time

[shrewd knoll]

i wouldnt mind that if they had turret upgrades

they are kinda slow right now

[somber briar]

Thats not wasting time, its called playing the game lol

[subtle falcon]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464202880410980472
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966

what should i go with? i just unlocked all depots and expansions for my factory in valley 4

[lucid narwhal]

but it's more efficient if I didn't have trial and error, right? would have been better if I didn't figure things out, and just copied blueprints and called it a day

[young stag]

anything i guess

[subtle falcon]

also what is v2 and v3??? are there more valleys i am unware of?

[young stag]

version 2 and 3…

[somber briar]

Thats one of the option, you could log in then set the blueprint then 5 minute later log off

[subtle falcon]

oh lol

[viscid plover]

arknight have some really wild plant

[young stag]

why tf

are you using thermal banks for this

[merry wagon]

for factory players, spending 6+ hours for a 0.5% increase in yield is the fun itself

[lucid narwhal]

I plan on doing that now, and for future AIC releases too. People here seem to have nice blueprints

[small creek]

absolute banger

[somber briar]

They min max everything everyday lol

[small creek]

u can place a zipline on top of the hill near the wuling ecofarm

[small creek]

lmao i just did that yesterday

decreased facility count by 31, and abt 10 for the subpac

[merry wagon]

[small creek]

also decrease power consumption by 5 🤯

[somber briar]

If only i know reaching this place is hard, i would utilize those random blue zipline earlier

[small creek]

its not really hard, u can jump a little on the side

[merry wagon]

gotta squeeze every ounce of efficiency

[lucid narwhal]

can I ask why and how you ended up enjoying factory gameplay? maybe I can try to enjoy it in the future

[vestal tiger]

Capitalism

[small creek]

can i answer as well

[vestal tiger]

Why not

[small creek]

yay

well

[shrewd knoll]

automated artillery trains

[small creek]

it starts with designing your own factory

and then it ends with not being able to sleep at night because of ideas flooding in your brain

"wait but what if i do this" and "nah i think i can do better"

and then when you implement that change, you think of yet another improvement

like yesterday i thought 28 fac reduction was my limit but eventually i hit 36

[vestal tiger]

At endgame, even when I have no content to do, I can always come and dismantle and redesign my entire production line for fun

Which I'm going to do
The aim this time is to reduce the number of buildings in wuling city by compressing as much things to put them in the stockade
This is so I can finish my project of surrounding the entire main pac with liquid containers and filling them with liquid xiranite, jincao, and yazhen solution

For fun

[small creek]

i ran out of things to automate so now im automating alluvium

and my conclusion is to... raise snowshine.

[viscid plover]

because of this

[merry wagon]

if nefarith really wanted to stop us, she could've just ripped out every single sandleaf in power plateau

[vestal tiger]

Just burn it all

[somber briar]

Its too late for that, i have some sandleaf in dijiang

[somber briar]

Idk i just like to pick and plug everything

[ancient zinc]

What the

[merry wagon]

the power of sandleaf guides us all

[manic cargo]

We need higher power capacity so we can min max power

[sharp plume]

get more thermal banks

max out expansion

[sharp plume]

make all factories dedicated to battery making + thermal banks

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086681499496448/1471756469375602689/image.png?ex=69901786&is=698ec606&hm=9cb4f0417dec3a1c6dcee743716710caf8510ddc1469a56af5d6b5b08c8881e1&

[sharp plume]

ok that's ~380 thermal banks (at minimum)

if I did the math right

[manic cargo]

10/min of ores only gets you like 60-120 power depending on if you do originium or HC

HC is only 2x as efficient as plain old originium

[sharp plume]

(367.8k - 200)/(1.5k) = ~380

[analog elbow]

500 thermal banks

[sharp plume]

oh

madlad

[manic cargo]

You can get the whole factory in 4 HC batteries + 1-2 originium or 1 LC if you set up ziplines

[sharp plume]

well

I don't use ziplines

[analog elbow]

[winged raptor]

stonks

[leaden drift]

are u in US EUR?

would u be willing to share it?

[sharp plume]

wait

there's a

STOCK MARKET?

[winged raptor]

yeah...

[sharp plume]

bruh no one told me

why is this not in the tutorial

[winged raptor]

the reason you need lots of friends in this game

it is though

[crimson shadow]

can anyone tell me how to even begin getting power in wuling? or do u just start by spamming thermal banks with HC valley batteries until u can start producing xiranite batteries of ur own

[sharp plume]

I just accept every friend request I get

[grim anvil]

Are we ever going to get more forges in the sky?

I don't want to min max my factory right now if we get more of it in the future

[winged raptor]

just accese the box on the ship, if you can't do some missions

[sharp plume]

ah

[winged raptor]

elastic goods is the stock market

[sharp plume]

i thought it was just buyable items for consumption/gear

[winged raptor]

buy low, sell high. but not all low

alway pick the sell high

[grim anvil]

it's fine to skip as long as this isn't maxed

[sharp plume]

it's just NYSE logic

literally

[grim anvil]

I'm out of money sinks I just buy goods since no cap regardless of price

[winged raptor]

well its fine, but you might skip the good deals of the day

[grim anvil]

I only buy sub 1000 goods

[winged raptor]

i got low price and sell high combo lmao

[vestal tiger]

Wait for 5k

[winged raptor]

nah i ain't risking it for now, it might drop

and i need the bills

[safe cloak]

i really need gryphline to add a option to remove all blue structures from your map

[winged raptor]

all at once?

[hexed geyser]

did something change in valley 4? i used to be able to do all the outpost managements and have a bit extra but now i can't afford them

[winged raptor]

because you can remove them

[hexed geyser]

idk if i messed something up or if something changed

[safe cloak]

yeah

[winged raptor]

dayum, inflation hits Talos 2

[runic epoch]

Did your product yields tank or something

[hexed geyser]

this is what im making rn

i dont remember what it was before but i think it was the same?

[viscid plover]

if you clear more of the outpost tower defense it does increase their $ generation rate

maybe that?

[hexed geyser]

wouldn't that mean i need more resources tho?

i don't think i've touched my valley 4 aics in like 2 weeks

[viscid plover]

wat...?

[hexed geyser]

like if the outposts are making more money then i need more resources to get that extra money

at least thats what i thought cause i haven't bothered to do it yet

[viscid plover]

your previous statement contradicts your current statement

i thought you mean you can't afford to clear out the outpost curency ?

[hexed geyser]

yeah i don't have enough batteries and buck capsules

sorry if my wording is wrong

[viscid plover]

so if they generate faster money, you would need more battery to clear the outpost currency

[hexed geyser]

yeah, my point is that i don't have enough batteries or buck capsules rn

was just curious if smth changed cause i don't have enough but i don't think i changed anything

[viscid plover]

if you didnt change anything i really can't think of why
maybe you use more battery than before if you did put up more zipline

just spitballing

[leaden drift]

that amount should be enough maybe ur not making enough amyethyst bottles and buck C?

[hexed geyser]

yeah i did put up more stuff but afaik it doesn't increase battery usage?

[viscid plover]

yea it wont unless you put up more thermal bank

[hexed geyser]

i've never bothered to make amethyst bottles or buck c cause i had enough of the other ones

[leaden drift]

thats extra stuff to sell to the outposts

[hexed geyser]

im just confused what happened cause i used to be able to afford everything and still have leftovers

[viscid plover]

time to grow the base

[hexed geyser]

yeah ig ill have to grow the factory lol

[scenic comet]

max yield for V4 is 18/min bat, 18/min capA, 24/min capC https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135

[hexed geyser]

i've just been using the main aic only base lol

but nothing changed in terms of the factory?

[scenic comet]

you need to make 93% of that to drain stocks compeletly

your outposts generate more stocks/hr as they level up

[hexed geyser]

how much do defense levels affect it?

cause i haven't done any except for one level 2 so i think i was making enough but yeah ill expand

[leaden drift]

i think like 15%

[hexed geyser]

just confused cause nothing changed but now im out of resources lol

[scenic comet]

auto defense is easy if you follow a guide

worth doing you get

[hexed geyser]

i've just been too lazy to lol but yeah i should start doing it

been addicted to rhodagn

[runic epoch]

I'm assuming it's because your outpost levels have increased?

[hexed geyser]

my outpost levels have been the same for like 2 weeks

i just wonder if anything else affects it cause i have been finishing a lot of quests and exploration

[lone surge]

https://tenor.com/view/火威青-hiodoshiao-ao-音乃瀬奏-otonose-kanade-一条莉々華-gif-12008087360276264379

[runic epoch]

Assuming everything is the same nothing should change that much
Also are the final products going into the depot 💀

And depending on when you did that defense level that might be the case as well

[hexed geyser]

Lmfao I think they’re going into the depot but I’ll have to double check

[river robin]

Cable managment.

[small creek]

perhaps ud be interested in this #1468746019788554423 message

[winged raptor]

FINALLY, i can dismantle the low tier battery farms

[carmine igloo]

Is this good?

[winged raptor]

NOW time for the big bois

[river robin]

Too big.

[winged raptor]

progress people, progress

[ebon tulip]

Does doing Depot Node missions increase my Regional Development Lvl?

Trying to get into lvl 10

[runic epoch]

No deliveries don't increase rdl
Unless you're talking about that mission to upgrade it
Then yes
Upgrading does

[jade harness]

what's the max output of valley 4 itemwise?

2 battery / ?? buck

[rapid kelp]

Still learning plumbing. Would a 1:1 source to each input make a crucible yield more output compared to a splittered input?

[ebon tulip]

Have about two unmined minerals, but other than that, I'm stumped

[runic epoch]

Owls
Depot Nodes
Stock Distr lvls
Outpost lvls

[somber snow]

24 buck/citrome C per min (10)
18 buck/citrome A per min (70)
18 hc bat per min (70)

[ebon tulip]

Owls?? Really? Huh.

[somber snow]

Those owls are important, cuz they give you materials to upgrade your dijiang

[tough snow]

My xiranite should be fine right? The usage fluctuates between 55 and 65

[somber snow]

U have 30k, so u shud be fine for a day b4 it even depletes,
If u’re only using 2 outputs, its not running out

[tough snow]

I use 2 outputs but one of them is split into two different lines. Should be fine yeah?

[somber snow]

Yes

[tough snow]

Aight thx

[rancid flare]

anyone have pictures of nightmare aic factories ;-; i need them for research purposes

[tiny wind]

Do we only get 5 bus this patch ?

[small creek]

what is a nightmare aic factory

what does this mean

[runic epoch]

Look up Leander's aio AIC factory in the blueprints channel

Glorious but a nightmare to construct

[rancid flare]

just messy af, smth that will scare away players ;-;

[small creek]

does this count #aic-factory message

[rancid flare]

I need nightmare looks;-;

[small creek]

leander looks like hell yeah

its so good but its also hell

[rancid flare]

holy

[sudden night]

brain melted

[jolly socket]

just setup AIC factory in Wuling but why they aren't letting me to construct Xiranite pylon ?

[sudden night]

What about the Sub-PACs

[jolly socket]

I got 29 from the mission lol

[sudden night]

It's specific to Wuling

[jolly socket]

I haven't unlocked any sub pac yet

[sudden night]

[sudden night]

No that wasn't for you

[jolly socket]

mb

[sudden night]

I think everything xiranite is wuling exclusive?

So xiranite towers probably won't even work outside wuling

[tiny wind]

Is it fine using 10 unloaders for 1 production line?

Or should i split 1 sand leaf for all 4 processor

[runic epoch]

1 sandleaf gives 3 powder
Use that as you will

And 10 is normal for something like med a

[tiny wind]

Its Already on powder form

[runic epoch]

More efficient to shred it on the production line

[tiny wind]

I see

I wanted compact as possible

But i guess power problems?

[runic epoch]

I'm assuming you're unloading the powder from the bus

[snow wagon]

im always running low on batteries to power my factory...

[tiny wind]

YEP AHHAHHAA

[tiny wind]

Make unload a battery line thermal thats my go to

But i hear theres better ways

[sudden night]

I need to die

I just fried my brain trying to find a working blueprint post with all the codes

[soft python]

just maximized my aic on wuling, what effecient blueprints do you guys use?

[merry wagon]

self made spaghetti ofc

or you can refer to kyo's videos for max efficiency

[leaden drift]

when i want to max use originium ore but dont want to over use it

[sudden night]

Can someone help me find a blueprint code with complete setup to get max production on Buckcapsule A and HC batteries?

Please

[leaden drift]

what server

[sudden night]

Asia

[leaden drift]

ah

[somber snow]

u havent found any BPs yet?

[leaden drift]

if ur willing to copy from an image i might be able to help

[peak sinew]

guys, where is the planting area in wulling

[leaden drift]

Agricultural site

[peak sinew]

👌

[runic epoch]

Look up kyo's guides

[sudden night]

Kyo?

Oh nvm

Got it

[soft python]

I think I have some

[ancient zinc]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966

[sonic plank]

yall got any like, mid game wuling

[leaden drift]

like wacha need

[sonic plank]

uhhh

like

idk

nofin

[ancient zinc]

[leaden drift]

lol

[sonic plank]

just something

[leaden drift]

well it depends on how many mines u got

or ur yield

[sonic plank]

where do i see that

[ancient zinc]

Just ask if u prefer Xira or Wuling battery or Xira components or Syringes

[leaden drift]

click on the PAC

[somber snow]

or just press AIC report in your menu

[sonic plank]

whaaaaaaa

[leaden drift]

Protocol management

[viral wharf]

Made my own factory, but currently running:

Yield

• 11/min LC Wuling Battery
• 5.75/min Yazhen Syringe
• 0.5/min Xiranite Component
• 60/min Xiranite
  Usage
• 2.06/min LC Wuling Battery
• 340/min Originium Ore
• 115/min Ferrium Ore
• 60/min Xiranite

[sonic plank]

i got uhhh
230/min yield on originium
0/min yield on amethyst
90/min yield on ferrium

[leaden drift]

i have 10 wbat, 5.75 meds, .9 comps, something something xiranite using around 1.6 ish wuling bats

[leaden drift]

so you could focus on making one wuling battery

you already have a forge of the sky?

[sonic plank]

uhh i think so

[viral wharf]

Think I'll lower my Xir. Comps. to 0.33/min just to stock up on Xiranite.

[leaden drift]

and i guess if you have two forge of the skys i would make a xiranite bottle maker/filler

[soft python]

max aic size?

[sonic plank]

i there like a blueprint for dat

[leaden drift]

im pretty sure u can make it in small size

[sonic plank]

idek how to make anything

[soft python]

I mean I want to maximized the production by using all of the spaces

if that's possible in our current ver.

[leaden drift]

currently i have a max AIC but i have so much random space

[leaden drift]

are u in US EUR?

[soft python]

hmm perfect for chen's

[leaden drift]

I could make a simple bp

[sonic plank]

asia

[leaden drift]

damn

[leaden drift]

this is my xiranite maker

[sonic plank]

oh aight

your power tho lol

[leaden drift]

its on purpose

[sonic plank]

why?

[leaden drift]

im pulsing power to have an avg power output

[small creek]

why 2.42 usage 🥀

[leaden drift]

just above my needs to save batteries

[small creek]

what do u even have running

[sonic plank]

holyyyy

[leaden drift]

this is the biggest thing

but probs all the ziplines and turrets i have out

[sonic plank]

wait so

[leaden drift]

dont worry about that picture

[sonic plank]

i wont be at 2.4k usage if i copy that right

[leaden drift]

no

that will be around 275 ish power

[sonic plank]

alrighty

[leaden drift]

including the mines

[small creek]

im running 2.16/2.2 with max zips and turrets

[leaden drift]

im gussing u have no busses right

[small creek]

so im honestly wondering how u got 2.46

wait

[leaden drift]

watering systems

[small creek]

buses use power?

[leaden drift]

no

[viral wharf]

By power cycling, you can reach average power outputs that aren't a multiple of your batteries' power.

[leaden drift]

i have stuff like this randomly around

[crimson inlet]

What do you mean I got no 3 for 3 essence for the past 15 grinds in wuling? I spent all my bills on engravings #youarepoorinwuling.

[crimson inlet]

You could mine

[leaden drift]

made a quick ish bottle filler

[rapid kelp]

Sadge pipe logistics stuff can't be built over belts orz

[leaden drift]

mope

they do have a solid foundation

[merry wagon]

symmetrical production lines

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/ina-イナ-ホロライブ-ninomae-inanis-hololive-english-gif-14202123929777117459

[viral wharf]

TIL bridges and spreaders use up protocol capacity

[peak sinew]

HM
can you sprinker these with xiranite water

[viral wharf]

Wow your crops should be well-watered

[small creek]

yep, 1 bridge splits 1 belt into 2 belts and 1 bridge, effectively tripling your fac count

spliiters and convergers follow a similar logic

its cooked

[viral wharf]

Was wondering why I was using so much in Wuling already, till that

Think ima have to use the splitters more effectively on my farm too

[analog elbow]

What's with these eco farm layouts

[shrewd knoll]

the pipes dont use any protocol

[analog elbow]

[shrewd knoll]

you can go crazy with them

and make wuling a pipocalypse

[viral wharf]

Oh really?

Nice, I'll keep it that way then

[shrewd knoll]

its just the farm tiles and sprinklers uses a lot

[viral wharf]

There's probably a more efficient one that uses 1 less Pylon, but this one works well enough for me

[merry wagon]

there's a layout that makes your teammates harvest every single plant while you stand at the center

[viral wharf]

Yeah, they do it for mine

[sonic plank]

so uh

Yall think I’m soft locked?

[charred hull]

What's the best operator to put on here?

[somber briar]

The trio limited

[charred hull]

I don't have them

[shrewd knoll]

just prioritize 3rd skill > 2nd skill and the first one doesnt matter

[jovial breach]

can someone share me a zipline on this mountain (asia)

[merry wagon]

I think you can pour water back in with bottles

[crimson inlet]

Dante's Infero type punishment

[willow beacon]

antal

or laeva

they're both the same

whatever can get both stock bill perks is perfect

or if you're really stretched thin, give it a "outpost stock bill" operator when you go to sleep and then swap it out for "trading stock bill" when you trade

[carmine igloo]

Does anyone have wuling Mega base?

[willow beacon]

like i have perlica in reconstruction rn, then i swap her for alesh when i trade

same thing just more effort

[willow beacon]

there's like 500 in #1461542035617091681

pick your fav and run with it

[brittle mauve]

oh wait which op should i put in the stockade

[willow beacon]

wulfgard

[brittle mauve]

wulfgard? for the stockade?

[willow beacon]

yes

[brittle mauve]

ok

[willow beacon]

anything with these two perks is optimal

regardless of outpost, look for those two

outpost prosperity is fine for early game but once it's max level it does literally nothing

[brittle mauve]

who is optimal in the others?

i have antal chen and snowshine iirc

[shy gate]

I need some advice, So I have 3/3min on SC, 2/2min on HC and 2/2min on LC wuling batt. I observed the power use and output for 20 minutes and the output fluctuates to 1.9k to 2.3k to 5.6k. Is it safe to say that my factory won't be backed up during the nights I am not online?

[brittle mauve]

no wait i think i threw in pog

[willow beacon]

antal
keep chen while you sleep, swap in xaihi when you're about to trade then go back to chen
keep perlica while you sleep, swap in alesh when you're about to trade then go back to perlica

OR alternatively
laeva
yvonne
gilberta

reason for this is there is nobody with the double perk (afaik) so you use this while you sleep for the passive income

then when it's all generated and you're ready to trade, swap it for this

it's the same benefit as having both but with way more effort

[brittle mauve]

antal refugee camp, chen afk xaihi during a large trade, perlica afk alesh when about to trade?

[willow beacon]

ye

[brittle mauve]

baller ok

[willow beacon]

chen xaihi infrastation
perlica alesh reconstruction hq

[brittle mauve]

yeah

and wulfgard perma in the stockade?

[willow beacon]

ye

[brittle mauve]

awesome thank you

im gonna be forcing a ton of battery production so this helps a lot

[willow beacon]

[ancient zinc]

[willow beacon]

why not just fully produce wuling batteries? more efficient

can make 12/min

[brittle mauve]

at the very least while the stockade is being leveled

[shy gate]

I'm still in the process of properly pivoting into the HC Valley battery production and seeing the power fluctuate and go lower than my usage, I halted it for now

It was still stable before I logged off but fluctuates to what I said earlier which was 1.9k-2.3-5.6k

What would be the most efficient use of ferrium in this case as 90/min is the max usage? Evenly spreading it between 2-3 packaging units for power?

[royal eagle]

Guys how ppl are making 12 syringe from 90 ferrium ?

[willow beacon]

max is 5.75 passively

[royal eagle]

How are they making 12

[willow beacon]

you can sit in dijiang and manually import 10k loads ferrium yourself

[small creek]

if u take the daily avg, they arent

[willow beacon]

it’s not sustainable in any way though

they just do it for the screenshot

[small creek]

^

[royal eagle]

Whaat

[sudden night]

Thank you very much
Already started to build the base I found in Kyo's video

[royal eagle]

They made factory so we can automate and ppl are making Emanuel factories

[subtle finch]

is it normal to have small dips like this?

[jovial breach]

Yes

For no reason

Everyone has that

[willow beacon]

you can also make loops of filling units and separating units to inflate the fuck out of report statistics

again, for no real benefit

[royal eagle]

[willow beacon]

some mf had like 2000/min jincao drink or something

[royal eagle]

[shrewd knoll]

the guy likes to burn his batteries

[royal eagle]

Crazy stuff fr

[somber briar]

I dont mind burning valley batteries tbh

[royal eagle]

This is max for syringe c ?

[jovial breach]

6/min yes but something is wrong with your bottles

[sudden night]

Is 12 buck capsule A per min enough?

[small creek]

u can do better

[somber snow]

12/min isnt the max

its 18/min

[sudden night]

I know that

I'm following Kyo's blueprint

[small creek]

idt its enough exhaust outpost income if thats what youre asking

[somber snow]

dont rly understand what you mean by enough,
if you mean bankrupting the outposts, no

but for good income,
for now, yeah it should do

[sudden night]

Then I'll set-up 2 more plants

I have 1 outpost and a good chunk of space on main aic

[atomic fiber]

4.5/min Yazhen Syringe C is max for 90/min ferrium.
without meta transfer from Valley IV
and without manual transfer from Valley IV

you can boost it with meta transfer

and manual transfer

[severe nexus]

@craggy whale more compact 5 item clump generator built using black magic

[craggy whale]

how did u made 5

wth

[severe nexus]

black magic

[atomic fiber]

damn... amazing

[craggy whale]

how did u timing it up

[sudden night]

Can 18 per min bankrupt while I have some for characters?

[craggy whale]

[severe nexus]

left part same idea as previous machine, every 64 seconds you make a gap in the black belt

this lets the white cube slip through the gap, during which time the batteries are drained off to the side until the white cube returns to block the flow

[craggy whale]

is that the full ?

[severe nexus]

yes

[paper magnet]

time to scrounge up another 40 pulls 😭

[severe nexus]

to set up you need to saturate black line, then put 1 white cube into the battery line to block, then just send batteries

[somber snow]

yeah,
you just need about 200 anyways,
wont impact the outcome by much

[craggy whale]

where is the white cube come from

[somber snow]

by the time you get to wuling,
youd use fluffed jincao powder or yazhen syringes instead

[severe nexus]

add it manually into the battery line during setup

[sudden night]

that ferrium usage though

[severe nexus]

bruh i forgot to do my dailies while i was building this

[somber snow]

it should not be that high

[wet pagoda]

what else are you making 🤔

[somber snow]

maybe u're using ferrium somewhere else

[atomic fiber]

give blueprint

[sudden night]

Let me see

[wet pagoda]

18 heals is exactly 1080/min

[craggy whale]

wait i still dont understand how the is that works now

[brittle mauve]

ok so what do you gotta do to slow a belt down for the battery starving

[wet pagoda]

split the belt

[atomic fiber]

splitter

[severe nexus]

EFO019A61UiE9AeAo5uI2 (na)

[sudden night]

These are going towards battery making

[brittle mauve]

🤨 ok

[atomic fiber]

damn.. NA 😭

[wet pagoda]

just show the whole report

[severe nexus]

normally there is a white cube in this splitter here right

[sudden night]

And 3x this for 18 bucks

[sudden night]

Sec

[severe nexus]

the batteries are on the same line so it doesnt drain to the side while the white cube is there

and white cube stays there until theres a gap in the black belt

and the amount of time it takes for the white cube to reenter the system and block again is enough for 5 batteries to pass

[sudden night]

Here

[severe nexus]

and im pretty sure 5 items is the smallest group you can generate with this kind of design luckily

[wet pagoda]

got more lines ?

after buckflowers

[sudden night]

A bit more

[wet pagoda]

show em

to see where the extra ferrium is used

[somber snow]

check your ferrium part, ferrium bottle, and ferrium yield

[craggy whale]

smallest so u can increase it just by adding more belt?

[wet pagoda]

i see, you do steel part

that the extra comsuption

[sudden night]

I don't even remember where I put them

Let me check

[severe nexus]

yes

[craggy whale]

but u cannot add the number of it one by one

?

[severe nexus]

you probably could if you cheese it with protocol stashes

[wet pagoda]

mb, its the steel bottle that mess the value

you should have 180/min, but you have 240/min

[craggy whale]

or increase the number of the white cube?

[severe nexus]

no there can only be 1 white cube

otherwise thats equivalent to doubling the interval

[atomic fiber]

@craggy whale are you asia or EU/NA?

[craggy whale]

im asia

[atomic fiber]

ok

[severe nexus]

well actually you could maybe have 32s timer, then use 2 white cubes to get groups smaller than 5

[craggy whale]

@severe nexusbut dont u need specific amount of carbon at that pint

point

[severe nexus]

not for carbon no

just need enough for black belt to be full

using 2 white cubes for two phase group generator also works

i think

[brittle mauve]

wait what is the purpose of this

[severe nexus]

turns out the timer doesnt need to be changed since it just alternates between the two controls

[brittle mauve]

are these all for stalling?

[atomic fiber]

this can be removed yah?

[severe nexus]

no its needed for converger prio

[craggy whale]

try to adding the number of the white cube

[atomic fiber]

damn... bug abuse

[craggy whale]

but it makes it worst

lol

so it only works for one?

but theres a chance that battery will go to the cube and carbon split part tho

[severe nexus]

you can have 1 white cube for 1 phase design, or 2 white cubes for 2 phase design

i dont think theres any point in having 3 or more white cubes

[craggy whale]

doesnt this will have a chance that battery will go to stash

[atomic fiber]

btw that work by priotizing the originum cube yeah or was it the carbon?

[severe nexus]

no because it only generates 1 wide hole which is plugged by the white cube

[craggy whale]

bcs it what happened to me earlier lol

[severe nexus]

so battery always drains to the side

i have it running and i dont have any batteries leaked into the stash

make sure you dont have any extraneous holes on your black belt

[severe nexus]

prioritizes the originium cube

[atomic fiber]

ok thx

[craggy whale]

i think its good if its specific

[brittle mauve]

god i dont understand anymore

[craggy whale]

since adding 1 more belt adding 2 battery

[severe nexus]

like make the number of items outputted be specific?

[brittle mauve]

wont the rate that batteries leave the aic be the same

im so confused on the battery slowing

[craggy whale]

im trying to find how to add the number now

[severe nexus]

you can just use this then, as long as the white cube gets to the converger on time, the number of items outputted will be the distance between that converger and the downstream splitter

and not on the distance the white cube has to travel

[craggy whale]

that means make the blueprint bigger ;v

[brittle mauve]

is there a way to manipulat the splitting

[severe nexus]

there is splitter prio as well

[brittle mauve]

how is it determined?

[craggy whale]

still a bit tricky too tbh

[severe nexus]

if you have a splitter with 3 outputs with item controls, with the first cw one being of item a and the other two being of item b, and you send alternating item a and b, it will only send to the first cw output of item b until it is full

[craggy whale]

xd

[brittle mauve]

cw?

[severe nexus]

clockwise

[brittle mauve]

ohh ok

[fresh sphinx]

If I want to send 1 item every 6 seconds, how do I do that?

I was experimenting with splitters but I couldn't get it. It was either 4 or 8 seconds

[brittle mauve]

the rate at which the aic drains when its underpowered depends on the overall consumption right

[craggy whale]

still tricky XD

[sudden night]

What should I do then to fix it

Any idea?

[severe nexus]

i might play around with prio splitters tmr to see if i can come up with something different

[brittle mauve]

are you finding new ways to slow down delivery speeds

[sudden night]

I'll have 16/min if I don't get the 4th Buck capsule A maker

[meager panther]

6 is tricky because it's 1/5, and we are working with 2s and 3s

[severe nexus]

send 5 items in a row every 64 secs

[craggy whale]

prio splitter?

[brittle mauve]

what is this for 😭

[craggy whale]

the output or input

[severe nexus]

output

[keen swan]

Does anyone has this zipline spot from Saintone?

[craggy whale]

for now random

theres no certain pattern

been doing that for a whole week

[severe nexus]

you can coerce it with item controls and mixed belts

[craggy whale]

[craggy whale]

yea the way to control is by using item control

[severe nexus]

one sec

[fresh sphinx]

Ahh rip. Is there a guide somewhere on how to manipulate it?

[severe nexus]

splitter with 3 outputs, take only 1 output

[meager panther]

I am not sure it is possible, it might be

I'm stupid, I did the math wrong

[fresh sphinx]

Wait you're right 💀

[meager panther]

I thought it was 1/5 of a line instead of 1/3 because I divided the wrong thing lmao

[atomic fiber]

@severe nexus @craggy whale I did it

[fresh sphinx]

Even just for the splitter tricks in general. Does a guide like that exist?

[meager panther]

No I don't think so

[craggy whale]

here more compact

[meager panther]

What is that? adaptive power or just 1/x very precise

[craggy whale]

not adaptive

it using gate system found by @severe nexus he uses the mix item system

[severe nexus]

someone else found it but i cant find the vid its from anymore

[atomic fiber]

I liked Phantom one more

[craggy whale]

mine is just compact

[severe nexus]

i went on their channel and the vid is missing so

[craggy whale]

using less block and block

[severe nexus]

this is what i meant

[craggy whale]

ugh

i dont think that will work still

[atomic fiber]

it's a bug btw

[craggy whale]

i guess i have an idea what u gonna do

[atomic fiber]

might get patched

[craggy whale]

waht bug

[atomic fiber]

the splitter prio

[severe nexus]

im guessing everything prio related

[craggy whale]

whats the bug

the randomness?

[severe nexus]

bottom belt not being used

[atomic fiber]

randomness is not the bug, that how it should behave

prio is the bug

[craggy whale]

u mean the top?

[severe nexus]

imo nothing should be random

[jovial breach]

Splitter prioritize certain belt over another

[atomic fiber]

this is the bug

[craggy whale]

this part?

[atomic fiber]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468689556005191852

it's a very old bug actually

yet they haven't fix it

[craggy whale]

thats the left

wym bug

it works tho

[severe nexus]

i think this is different

[craggy whale]

i dont understand

[severe nexus]

it looks like a different situation than what i was talking about, which is just resetting and incrementing the splitter direction repeatedly

this is also explained by a vid i watched that i cant find on the channel anymore for some reason

[craggy whale]

splitter behaviour now is just their direction and memory]

default direction is always counterclock

and memory means like the number 123

the start point is random

but direction still works

[severe nexus]

nvm found it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPTBjBRpy0U its unlisted for some reason

[craggy whale]

this wont work if u have big delay

[severe nexus]

it explains splitter prio and the drain gate that i used

skip first 5:47 cuz its fluff

[craggy whale]

never know such vid is exist

lol

[atomic fiber]

no ZRoku. let's say splitter should do counterclockwise or clockwise that mean splitter can do 3 output to 3 different belt.

but the bug allow you to always output from this one belt only ignoring other belt, as such 2 other belt will never have item

[craggy whale]

from the carbon top to white cube bottom is 1,2,3

[craggy whale]

and how the bug did happened?

have u found the reason why it bugged

[sudden night]

Any idea on what to create for trading in infra-station outpost?
It's at level 2 and doesn't take buck capsule A

[craggy whale]

@severe nexus its more small but alot works of splitter

[atomic fiber]

when splitter/converger near something. currently I don't know it's full behavior seems to changed based on what is near them (no space, like no belt)

[severe nexus]

bro i have no idea whats going on

[sudden night]

If I try to make SC batteries till cost me ferrium and ferrium usage is already capped

[craggy whale]

it just use 1.0 version

[atomic fiber]

no

[severe nexus]

i cant decipher splitter/converger city

[craggy whale]

it was the blueprint

it was bcs the idea was to have 2 or more timer differently

to other battery etc

[jovial breach]

The idea of the sensor is pretty cool

[vestal tiger]

Would it be possible to make a timer

[craggy whale]

it is

by using the gate

[vestal tiger]

Which gate

[severe nexus]

im not sure if the circuits that require sync still work reliably

[atomic fiber]

when you online? yes
will it broke after offline? absolutely

[craggy whale]

splitter to converger

[severe nexus]

since splitter seem to have random start direction or smth

[craggy whale]

and let 1 items flowing to converger that not come out from splitter

[craggy whale]

start point ye

direction no

thats why im complainig

on their feedback

kek

[severe nexus]

lol

[vestal tiger]

I see

[craggy whale]

@vestal tiger

this was the original @vestal tiger

[atomic fiber]

I don't think any normal sane person can understand that other than us 3

[craggy whale]

if u want to try

[craggy whale]

pwm will be gone

timer era will be open soon

since its easier to calculate

[atomic fiber]

but this doesn't work offline no?

[craggy whale]

it works

[severe nexus]

that was the insanely unoptimized design i made while sleep deprived at like 5am

[atomic fiber]

really?

[craggy whale]

thats why im trying to compact it there

with immature design as well

with alot of splitter

[severe nexus]

i really dont know why you want so many splitters and convergers lol

[atomic fiber]

this should be able to be made more optimized too to use less space

[severe nexus]

they make the stuff very hard to read

[craggy whale]

bcs it split into many directions like ur ver 1.0

[atomic fiber]

this

[craggy whale]

but im making it smaller as possible

what u need to see is just the converge tbh lol

[severe nexus]

well if it works its fine

[atomic fiber]

that will definitely clog

[craggy whale]

nah

ive tried it

[severe nexus]

stove dials ahh gameplay

[craggy whale]

well if i use ur idea is too hard to make 2 timer of it

[severe nexus]

wdym by 2 timers?

[atomic fiber]

try run that for 3 days straight. many pwm design that is like that got scrapped because it does clog offline

[craggy whale]

2 different timing

but you can adjust the output

on that gate

[severe nexus]

can we not do 2 timers into a converger or something?

[craggy whale]

if u use ur design i dont think it will work since it tied to that item right

[severe nexus]

hmm you might need something to prevent 2 gaps for that actually

if the 2 timers send a signal at the same time

[craggy whale]

wait

i think it could work

use splitter

on that item control

but theres no way to know the output of that 1 to get 1 battery as smallest no

[severe nexus]

which item control

[craggy whale]

white cube

also i just realize

if u add more item

u can reduce the ammount

[severe nexus]

hmm ig i dont understand what you are trying to do lol

[craggy whale]

i mean u know why pwm is good right

bcs it activate machine every different times

1 every 50

1 very 60

1 every 80

it calculated based off how much powers u need and u can have

[severe nexus]

i have not looked into pwm very much

[craggy whale]

it just as what i said

it just they deliver every different times

[severe nexus]

what i did read about is there is a possibility of pwm systems crashing the factory due to the differences in the intervals

https://www.skport.com/article?id=2020187286270115990

[wet pagoda]

well depand of how much spare energy you want, and what you lowest battery % you get

[craggy whale]

yeah it always have every around 10 hrs+-

and also again yea

depends on the power u need and can have

it just downside outage for few mins

[wet pagoda]

i dit my power regulation, didnt got problem for now, target is like 2.5k

[atomic fiber]

that is old pwm design. and that doesn't work and will 100% clog. now the new design is like this

[severe nexus]

yeah dige or smth

[atomic fiber]

yeah

[severe nexus]

thats pretty much what i use for my v4

which reminds me, i need to manually import batteries to wuling again

[wet pagoda]

you dont use wuling batteries ?

[severe nexus]

no

[wet pagoda]

hmm

[severe nexus]

well, i am probably using some at this moment since my backup power generator runs on wuling batteries

and i forgot to import batteries for like 2 days

nvm theres still some valley batteries left

[stark osprey]

With 2 HC battery lines and 1 Buck A and meta storage online shouldn't I still be able to keep up with the ferium in Valley 4?

[severe nexus]

ferrium in v4 is enough for 3 hc and 3 buck a

[stark osprey]

what's the yield/min for Ferrium at regional 12?

[severe nexus]

1080

[stark osprey]

I guess I was stargnating since the system wasn't consuming any than

[fringe summit]

even normal saturated originium thermals crash

[stark osprey]

I just reorganized my AIC there to be able to fit an HC battery setup

[fringe summit]

[stark osprey]

time to go and make the 3rd hc setup setup

[severe nexus]

like literally a belt of originium into thermals?

[fringe summit]

yes

[severe nexus]

nice lol

[fringe summit]

1 belt of originium into 4 thermals will crash

[atomic fiber]

[fringe summit]

noticed that because I saw a random dip in my exact 2000 W wuling setup earlier in the day

[shrewd knoll]

it depends how you split it

since its literally on the line

[atomic fiber]

you shouldn't design the pwm with exactly the power usage you use
you should add some buffer for safety

[fringe summit]

nah it was a full saturated wuling LC thermal + 4 originium thermals

literally saturated setup

it's probably the funny 8s/battery consumption didnt play well with the automanagement cycles

[atomic fiber]

been using this 2 for 1 week. work fine offline so far

[stark osprey]

18/min hc batteries finally

[wet pagoda]

wow, take lots of space

[stark osprey]

I finally redesigned my hc line to fit inside a sub aic

[atomic fiber]

to fight the clog offline behavior

belt space seems to help fight against offline clog

[fringe summit]

the usual pwm are fine because most of them time you are operating on excess power generation

[severe nexus]

for v4 theres usually more than enough space anyways

[fringe summit]

what I'm talking about is me consuming EXACTLY 2000 W

[wet pagoda]

i use this, seems stable for now, didnt saw power crash (my target is 2500)

[atomic fiber]

[fringe summit]

so I'm belting 4x originium thermals (200W) + 1 saturated LC wuling (1600) + base gen (200)

that crashes once every while

[atomic fiber]

Just pray that won't clog

[stark osprey]

I forgot to connect the belts from the grinders to the steel refiners for the buck A line

[fringe summit]

because funny desync with 8s consumption on originium thermals

thermals consume originium at 8s intervals instead of the 40s intervals on batteries

fixed it tho

I just belt 4x different originium lines, each dedicated to just 1 thermal

so it naturally clogs itself

like this WILL crash like twice a day

this won't

[atomic fiber]

lol

[fringe summit]

the first variation will work if you use a pwm with like +5 margin tho

[jovial breach]

This requires you to prefill the thermal cuz it takes time for originium to get to the farther banks

[craggy whale]

hmmmm

[fringe summit]

nah it doesn't really matter in the grander scheme of things

the flow is constant

[jovial breach]

[shrewd knoll]

just limit it to 3 and give it a 2s buffer

it wont fail

[fringe summit]

why I just belt 4 of them separately instead

[shrewd knoll]

since giving it no buffer means it fails when server doesnt update on time

[fringe summit]

not like I'm short on space

[jovial breach]

Literally prefilling fixes it

[shrewd knoll]

prefill just delays it

[jovial breach]

Otherwise there will be slight downtime

[fringe summit]

prefilling delays the decay

doesnt prevents the decay

[jovial breach]

What's im missing

[shrewd knoll]

it only works with 4 if you have power to spare but if you cannot regain the power reserve, its going to fail eventually

[fringe summit]

belts don't actually flow at a constant 30/s like it advertised when you are offline

it's always like a tick slower

and eventually it will reach a critical failure point

where it will dip momentarily

[tiny wind]

Is there a way i can just mirror a blueprint

[fringe summit]

for example

look at that 2 hour period

and at the originium ore

[severe nexus]

It will be a miracle if that works lol

[jovial breach]

Select the things you want to copy and Ctrl+C

[fringe summit]

see the tiny yellow part missing in the middle

[shrewd knoll]

go through the motion of creating an entirely new blueprint only mirrored

[jovial breach]

Oh mirrored

Not duplicate

[craggy whale]

it works but i need to find the number

[shrewd knoll]

so not the way you want to mirror it

[craggy whale]

it should 1 and 3 everytime

XD

[tiny wind]

Fuuuuuu

[shrewd knoll]

and you cant mirror blueprints with water pipes because of the one sided pipe issue

[jovial breach]

Ah i know this but didn't know it was due to the belts

[atomic fiber]

try this, and the stash should be turned off and in storage mode

[craggy whale]

i mean i item is enuff

and split it into 2

[fringe summit]

it's mostly due to the logic units on belts

because that's an extra calculation for the server

[jovial breach]

cuz logistics units work tick-based?

[fringe summit]

pree much

[shrewd knoll]

its also why you see like -1 on production if you check the long timeline

[fringe summit]

^

[jovial breach]

Hg coding strikes again

[fringe summit]

why you want like a min of +5 power on pwm to prevent critical mass failures

[craggy whale]

yeah what im trying to do is to having multiple timer lol

[fringe summit]

10+ is prob best tho

[atomic fiber]

that is why i say turn it off. turned off stash don't eat any power

[fringe summit]

?

[severe nexus]

As in 1 item, 64s delay, 3 items, 64s delay?

[atomic fiber]

oh... nvm

that not for me

[fringe summit]

I'll just stick with the 4x belt setup lol

[craggy whale]

48 sec delay 3 or 4 items 64s delay 1 item 128 delay or more

[fringe summit]

literally can't go wrong with it

[craggy whale]

is formula to get like 1 extra for charging

1 still alive after 8 sec dead

msot of em will alive after 64s

power outage is relatively easy to calculate than this timing xD

[crimson inlet]

PWM - managing pulses of power usually in miliseconds.

Load balancing/load matching - utilizing various techniques to adjust power generation or load depending on the demand.

D.I.G.E. - applies some principles of both, maybe similar to grid balancing, with the main purpose is to adjust the power load to reduce excess energy generation—saving more battery in storage for selling.

[fringe summit]

still mystifies me how the spaghetti setup havent failed in a week

[atomic fiber]

DIGE is just pwm but for AKE

[severe nexus]

Can alternate between 3 and 4 items every 64s?

[craggy whale]

should do 3

[severe nexus]

Or between 4 and 5, whichever you meant

[craggy whale]

but im testing it now with timing

i mistiming the items xd

with my timer

[atomic fiber]

this probably because this won't kill your factory if it late a little while when people do battery related stuff, your factory die, if it late by too much

[severe nexus]

Ah rip

[fringe summit]

nah it's prob because I have a bigger margin of error for the setup

intentionally went with one where I have a bigger generation excess

[atomic fiber]

yes, that margin of error is your factory Going to 0 power

[fringe summit]

ye the wuling one has 0 margin

it was exact 2k

it's just funny when I found out that originium thermals can fail

exact margins for batteries never fail tho

because consumption time is large enough

[atomic fiber]

I say you just take too much risk, you shouldn't do exact margin even for battery too

[fringe summit]

never failed me

this is also why I never bother to do exactly 115 tho

because if you fine tune it to consume exactly 115 ferrium, sooner or later the belts WILL fail

and you'll just end up using less than 115

might as well just overconsume and let it normalize itself

[tiny wind]

Can i create a blueprint on simulators and put it in game

[fringe summit]

no just color your excell or something

[tiny wind]

Bruh just did built one thinking i can put in game

ahahsha

[fringe summit]

or you can go on a gactorio build planner

like fbe or something

just select similar sized buildings

solar panels are 3x3 for example

[jovial breach]

Or use pen and paper

[fringe summit]

pen and paper get messy too quickly from my experience

[shrewd knoll]

just do it in game, your wuling outpost probably empty and use that for a blueprint

[atomic fiber]

get better pen and paper

[fringe summit]

use excel/google sheet if you want custom or just a good old factorio build planner

ye wuling outpost works too

gui is kinda pepega tho

esp for planter modes

[severe nexus]

Me switching a stash to storage mode for the ten millionth time

[fringe summit]

that can be done in bulk by turning it off

so it's not bad

but ye stuffs like that

[severe nexus]

Frick I should have thought of that lol

[fringe summit]

then rarndom power surges too if you forgot that

[tiny wind]

Using endfield tools boy its a test on mobile those belt not moving ñol

[fringe summit]

ngl belting is easier on tablet than on pc

because you can drag it to the exact spots

first time finding use for my tablet pen

[severe nexus]

Using tablet pen sounds lit actually

[fringe summit]

ye it was a life hack I found for belting

[tepid wind]

[cunning hornet]

out of content gameplay

perfect

[analog elbow]

It's literally a masterpiece

[lofty plover]

does anyone else feel like their factory is serverely under utilised?

There's simply not enough space in the depot to do things, and sure i could optimise my blueprints to take up less space but ultimately the bottleneck is depot ports right

Do you think we'll get faster conveyor belts so that this changes?

I would move this stuff to wuling but you don't have enough ore there, so in wuling ore/xiranite are bottlenecks

i know i could optimise my space and squeeze stuff in but.. i don't actually need to, the things i'd love to automate (tacticals and gear) can't be made in the factory, so unless i just want to make even more batteries and stuff for stock bills i dont really know what to do

[cunning hornet]

true bottleneck is cash bills

[lofty plover]

for making gear?

[tepid wind]

bottleneck in power

[analog elbow]

[subtle falcon]

I just beat the Marble Aggelo and unlocked Sandleafs, anyone got any recommendations for blueprints I can make now to get my factory started and get bills flowing in? Not sure what to focus on

[cunning hornet]

for doing anything in Wuling

[cunning hornet]

mine more ores and setup HC battery production

[subtle falcon]

would a simple blueprint work for that? i was under the impression i should make my main pac a big factory or am i not able to do that rn?

[cunning hornet]

you can use other share blueprints or you can design your own production line

[subtle falcon]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464202880410980472
i was going to follow this but i dont think i can bc my yield is not that high

[cunning hornet]

that's why mine more ores first

[subtle falcon]

like manually?

i have 18k, do I need more?

[tepid wind]

i used this blueprint for battery EFO018Ie682a4I121UI73

[cunning hornet]

using the miners of course

[subtle falcon]

am on america :(

im trying to find a blueprint in #1461542035617091681 but theyre all so big lol

[shut rover]

I future proof my plants farm

[ancient zinc]

I need more Turrets

[tepid wind]

i need water