aic-factory

[mortal plinth]

so late game xD ...you already got it running at full capacity....so just rearrange your buildings a bit ?

[hollow drum]

im gonna implement the idea

[somber snow]

a bit is an understatement,
everything is everywhere

[velvet hemlock]

Im cooking everything

[somber snow]

i gotta delete everything

I LOVE OPTIMISING

[mortal plinth]

i dont even have buck A cause im lazy xD

[hollow drum]

.factory

[mortal plinth]

[hollow drum]

shit

[velvet hemlock]

XD

I am cooking everything

[mortal plinth]

I Design my buildings myself so it takes time afterall

[hollow drum]

why does the menu screen for Endfield go hard

[mortal plinth]

im also busy painting my kitchen and stuff.

[mortal plinth]

endmin is just that guy.

[hollow drum]

i use pengmin

[mortal plinth]

when he walk, the waifu's fall to their knees

[hollow drum]

she just has the

"goober" aura

like shes not serious

[mortal plinth]

look at this monstrosity i created yesterday

actually works ngl, 2 battery use per hour instead of 3

[velvet hemlock]

IS this one of those electric engineer nonsenses?

[mortal plinth]

kinda, except im not good at it

its just a bunch of loops

[paper magnet]

haha funny number

[neat kindle]

that makes so much sense

[mortal plinth]

its easy once you understand the concepts, endfield's factory is quite simple...for now

imagine if we didnt have 1 to 1 ratio's.... and instead 0.9 to 1 or something

that'd piss off so many ppl

[velvet hemlock]

69 where?

[mortal plinth]

ikr.

[empty furnace]

the new funny number is 6-7 and dont ask me why or how. my 6 year old nephew wont stop tho

[mortal plinth]

69 shall not be dethroned

67 will be forgotten eventually, 69 will still be around even 100 years from now

[neat kindle]

14 Ori and 15 sand

[mortal plinth]

[velvet hemlock]

I mean, buck a is kinda annoying already

[mortal plinth]

maybe in the future we'd get more complex recipe's where that will be an issue tbh

[velvet hemlock]

You gotta make 2 lines to use that powder

Or is it buck c

[analog elbow]

Wtf but you have 1.53K Usage

[velvet hemlock]

Which one was worse?

[neat kindle]

this game is revitalizing my incentive to play satisfactory again

the factory must grow

[empty furnace]

i didnt do such long lines lol

[mortal plinth]

some buildings are turned off

[neat kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[mortal plinth]

im filling the big hole with liquid originium

[mortal plinth]

opps. replied to wrong person ,i meant you

[analog elbow]

Ah

So what's your maximum usage

[mortal plinth]

oh idk, i havent had everything running at the same time yet lmao.

i been filling this hole for days smh

[analog elbow]

that thing won't be efficient if you keep changing your power usage

[mortal plinth]

i can add/remove elements tho, its a simple design xD.

[forest jewel]

any ideas on how to make this thing a bit compact?

im making hcv batteties

[fervent stone]

Looking for opinions on this, 20x20

[mortal plinth]

it saves me a bit of battery so im happy with it rn

[analog elbow]

well you do you i guess

[mortal plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/taking-off-sunglasses-1

[fervent stone]

Idk man the goal was to somehow be a sidegrade of two 15x15 planters XD

[mortal plinth]

im not sure if thats an upgrade ngl. lol

[analog elbow]

can be smaller

[velvet hemlock]

lol

[earnest steeple]

are you doing wuling plants or V4 plants? cuz i see pipes and that would be for wuling plants, but you're using 3 buildings per line instead of 2.

[fervent stone]

Two 20x20s are 400, two 15x15s is 450

[somber snow]

i did it,
im redesigning my factory

[velvet hemlock]

Probably just made things in wuling

[fervent stone]

Thats why Im like hmmm

[fervent stone]

V4 Plants just using wuling since its empty there

[earnest steeple]

area doesn't really matter at the end of the day, since you're going to be playing tetris if you try to fit your blueprints in. also did you mean One 20x20 is 400? Because Two is 800.

[fervent stone]

Oh wait my brain

[forest jewel]

best idea I have atm is to just remove the redundant grinders and the protocol stashes

[fervent stone]

Chen moment

But as of now is there no better way to make a bunch of sandplants other than spamming 15x15s?

[static isle]

do yall craft actual specialty healing items or just shave off the top of your selling piles

[floral vector]

doing the latter for now atleast lol

[velvet hemlock]

I got a stack of selling pile that I use when i run out of special items

[light ingot]

is it recommended having 2 grinding units to make dense originium powder for HC batteries

[hollow drum]

wip

[velvet hemlock]

3

[light ingot]

3?
then how much lines for steel parts

[sand pivot]

holy wuling recipes are so overwhelming in a sense, the product gotta pass through a gazillion machines before you get the final product

[cedar turret]

?

Acquire xiranite

Use xiranite to make battery

Or use xiranite to make component

[sand pivot]

look at xiranite components recipe

[cedar turret]

It's just making carbon

That's easier than making steel tbh

[unreal marsh]

carbon is the cheapest thing to make also

[sand pivot]

and there's a fk load more to the left that I couldn't fit in the ss 💀

[cedar turret]

The top part is the same as what you used for cryston components

In V4

[velvet hemlock]

2

[glad needle]

place it in the middle maybe seems wasted unloader

[unreal marsh]

you already made this before for the other purple gear component

[hollow drum]

i dont have any other thing to produce. im at peak ore usage

[cedar turret]

The only different is instead of adding steel which is complicated, you add xiranite which is easy

[sand pivot]

I didn't make purple gear, I'm transitioning straight into yellow gear, didn't really need blue gear for anything

[cedar turret]

Oh

Gg

[small creek]

yup purple gear sucks

[sand pivot]

as in like I personally didn't feel any struggle that pushed me to farm purple gear

[cedar turret]

Yeah that would screw you over if you don't know about origocrust lines

[small creek]

gold gear is literally 1 region away, might as well

[glad needle]

make buck c

[hollow drum]

i use amethyst for something else already

[cedar turret]

Origocrust is similar to steel line though so not too bad

[sand pivot]

the only things I farmed in V4 was batteries and caps

[hollow drum]

like im already at peak ore usage. do you have a trick to hocus pocus ore out of thin air?

[mortal plinth]

better than nothing 💔 lol

[sand pivot]

for stock bills farm

[unreal marsh]

you can make the brigher orgo by origi=refine=shread + sandleaf shred too(mixing)

[velvet hemlock]

You can only hocus some ferrium into wuling

[cedar turret]

Yeah it's just slightly modified steel line

[cedar turret]

What are you using amethyst for

[hollow drum]

citrome c

[cedar turret]

Oh yeah that's fine

Citrome/ buck capsule c are the same thing for stock bills

[small creek]

did anyone else stockpile 80k steel and cryston parts

its kinda funny looking at it

[cedar turret]

Lol no

[sand pivot]

my issue is just that I am basically out of space in V4 (all settlements) and out of resources to craft more dense originium lowkirknly

[cedar turret]

I have like 40k of each

Then moved the lines

[small creek]

i let my 60/min of each run for a night

[cedar turret]

You do want a stock pile for ziplines and stuff

[small creek]

fucking 40k the next day

and then the day finished, 80k

[cedar turret]

I used item control port to limit it to 5k at a time

[velvet hemlock]

Gotta have a pile of stuff to make stuff with

[small creek]

yeah but like

[velvet hemlock]

You know whats really funny to look at?

[sand pivot]

like I don't have any spare ferrium or originium upon setting digging machines in all of V4's gathering sites

[small creek]

unless i make a billion ziplines, idt ill ever need any more

[cedar turret]

I still have my cryston line, just turned off for now

[small creek]

im boutta make 80k explosives too

[cedar turret]

I have 21k parts

[velvet hemlock]

Explosives are great for packing

Give the folks their factory materials

[cedar turret]

What's your theoretical?

[small creek]

i prefer to pack sandleaf powder

3 for 1 deal type shi

no ore needed too

[sand pivot]

I don't include theoretical because I don't store anything other than final products so I'll have a bunch of reds that are actually not deficits

[velvet hemlock]

shrug

Explosives are worth 5 points

[sand pivot]

but I can show you

[small creek]

ore tho

[cedar turret]

Theoretical matters for ore production only

[sand pivot]

wait I'm a bit dumb yeah

you right

[marble yarrow]

https://youtu.be/IPTBjBRpy0U

[velvet hemlock]

And aketine is used for nothing else

[marble yarrow]

New sorcery vid

[cedar turret]

Let's us know if you have all the nodes or not

[sand pivot]

I forgot theoretical impacts production directly

[small creek]

well fk aketine

[sand pivot]

still I am out of space though 😭

[velvet hemlock]

Theorethical doesnt do much

[cedar turret]

You do not have all the ferrium nodes

[sand pivot]

it matters for ore, if more ore leaves your depot than is stored it will show red

[small creek]

your yield is lower cus of your usage

[sand pivot]

I have all the ones I can though

[cedar turret]

Your theoretical ferrium ore yield should be 1080per min

[sand pivot]

prob power plateau

is the only ones I don't have not sure

[cedar turret]

Also development level

[glad needle]

lv 9 dev

[sand pivot]

yeah I haven't set up power plateau relays yet

[fallen gorge]

no sweat

[cedar turret]

Level 11 upgrades quality of nodes

[sand pivot]

but my issue rn is not even the ore though, it's more like the space

idrk what's worth producing and what's not

[cedar turret]

You can buy space expansions

For stock bills

On all the areas

The endgame max prodction is 3 liens of HC batteries

[leaden drift]

Leveling alot of stuff

[sand pivot]

yeah I bought max expansion for all areas

[cedar turret]

3 lines of tier A meds

[sand pivot]

but the sub pacs barely have any space compared to core

[cedar turret]

Sub pac is 40x40 at max space

That's a lot of space

You can fit entire tier A med line into a sub pac

[turbid gyro]

holy fuck you guys werent kidding when you said endgame factories need a lot of plants

[leaden drift]

I tried to tie wuling batteries and xiranite comps using the same line of orginium belts

[somber snow]

any thoughts on this design?

[sand pivot]

I think I have to review the whole production because there's things I should be looking at the theoretical data and I am looking at the current data

[leaden drift]

By doing so I ended up on overspending on xiranite

Going upwards of 70 used

[neat kindle]

can someone tell me why there was a high purity mine next to the core aic area and the game just never fucking tells you

[velvet hemlock]

Current data gud!

[velvet hemlock]

Does it not?

You need to use it pretty early in the story

[hollow drum]

dont love it yet

[neat kindle]

bro when i clicked on ferrium mining spots yesterday it went to some fuckin mining bed in the originium science park

[leaden drift]

What are you looking to get out of this 3 outputs?

[neat kindle]

i dont even think my friend who played this game more than me knew about this

[velvet hemlock]

Why does it go into a stash

[velvet hemlock]

Are you people not exploring at all?

smh

[somber snow]

into depot,
then into depot unloader,
into shredders,
into my hc battery production

im making more btw

[neat kindle]

I AM EXPLORING

sigh

[velvet hemlock]

I found all the deposits before reaching wuling

[leaden drift]

Idk its easy to find if you goal is to have the whole map be shown

[velvet hemlock]

Well except that one weird hill that I dont know when it unlocks

[ancient zinc]

Wuling experience

[neat kindle]

well my goal is to expand the factory and have countless ferrium mines

[leaden drift]

Like how many plants does this generate before shredders

[turbid gyro]

the factory is done

[somber snow]

its the same as making 3 infinite planters

[neat kindle]

what the actual fuck

[unreal marsh]

should i start buying now or later

[somber snow]

YES

[velvet hemlock]

Well good luck XD

[neat kindle]

THERE ARE BIKES AND DRILLS?

[velvet hemlock]

You cant ride them

[unreal marsh]

yes

[turbid gyro]

3pac's generating batteries and buck A

[velvet hemlock]

They're for displaying

[leaden drift]

This has a big foot print so take that into account too

[unreal marsh]

dont spoil the fun

[turbid gyro]

time to go to wuling

[unreal marsh]

💔

now im poor again

[neat kindle]

rm -rf ./endfield

[unreal marsh]

2 mill left but

[somber snow]

making 3 of them individually takes more space,
thats why i came up with this

making it all in 1 place makes it ezr to manage

[leaden drift]

It depends if you are working around other factory stuff

[somber snow]

im not,
everything else is gonna be at the main PAC,
for outposts, im making bats, sandleaf, and citrome cs

[leaden drift]

If it hits the numbers you need then go ahead then

[vivid shore]

anyone can help with some suggestions? im endgame, producing what i need in valley iV, but i have an extra 20/min origium. What should i use it for?

[ancient charm]

bro

what

[somber snow]

nice

[ancient charm]

[somber snow]

nice

[vivid shore]

800+????

[leaden drift]

I have it fractioned off with a spliter making oricrust

[vivid shore]

its kinda full as well

[leaden drift]

I sell mine to the first outpost

[gritty skiff]

Hope they add more ferium nodes soon, then this be efficient without ferium transfer from valley

[leaden drift]

You can make it smaller

[vivid shore]

good idea, thanks

[ancient zinc]

Dang

[leaden drift]

That also means even if I sold all 80k it wouldnt be long till I can make more buildings again

[vivid shore]

what buildings?

[leaden drift]

I have an excess of shredders and refiners

But even with excess i tend to run out of them

[gritty skiff]

Jus waiting for expansion update rn

[vivid shore]

really?

[sand pivot]

what should I produce at V4? 2 buck caps A? what else?

[leaden drift]

Yeah im probs just forgetting them in valley 4 or wuling

[vivid shore]

ah, same bro

[leaden drift]

But its faster to just make new ones

[sand pivot]

bucks B and bucks C not worth producing?

[ancient zinc]

With those xira amount

You can mass production

[leaden drift]

Buck C kinda?

[fervent stone]

Looking for thoughts on this one

[leaden drift]

Only if you wont be on for long periods of time

[gritty skiff]

Dang what

[sand pivot]

I am generally on daily

[ancient zinc]

[sand pivot]

to do like daily quests and stuff and I want to clear outposts if possible

[leaden drift]

Its a good back up incase

Essentially it allows you to sell around 240k bottles

Without having to do protocol stash cheesing

Amethyst

[sand pivot]

is this bucks A production line too big?

[ancient charm]

can be optimised

[sand pivot]

yeah I guess I will keep it, it's just I am struggling with space in V4 and I am checking what I can get rid of and what I should keep 😅

[leaden drift]

Its missing a ferrium input unless that's the plan

I think right now its at 75% efficiency? Roughly

[sand pivot]

yeah kinda to save space, like I know it won't be as efficient cause instead of 2 ferrium powder it's receiving 1.5 but yeah

[sand pivot]

yeah

[vivid shore]

i have a blueprint for buck A that takes almost one outpost

[ancient charm]

yes that is why max output is 18

[vivid shore]

it leaves some spaces for other things

[leaden drift]

Wait 50%? Or lower? I might just be lacking sleep tho

Isn't it 8 ferrium?

[vivid shore]

any updates on next expansion?

[leaden drift]

Each bottle takes two steel

[vivid shore]

like sub region or mineral beds'

[leaden drift]

In valley 4?

[vivid shore]

or wuling

[leaden drift]

Wuling will

[vivid shore]

both are welcome

[leaden drift]

Valley 4 I think is done

[vivid shore]

ugh

[leaden drift]

The basic jincao powder from wuling rivals buck A

871 healing compared 891

But fast turnaround on the basic jincao powder

[sand pivot]

yeah

fml

so I basically need 2 more dense ferrium production lines + 2 more steel bottle production lines

to make it 100% efficient

I don't have space for all this chat welp

[leaden drift]

Have you not expanded ur areas?

[sand pivot]

they are maxed out

but the seed pickers and planters take half of it

cause I am using a fk ton of sandleaf or wtv it's called

and buckflower

[leaden drift]

People have min maxed everything to fit into the core aic area somehow

[sand pivot]

yeah that's what I am trying to do

[leaden drift]

18 buck A 18 HC

[sand pivot]

but jfc it's so much stuff 😭

[leaden drift]

I have extra Sandleafs just to shredd for depot trips

One BuckA can fit one outpost

I have 2 buck A and 2 hc batteries being made here

Along with extra sandleaf

[jovial breach]

Not related question but can you find fangyi after you've done story? She isn't in the wuling city HQ

[small creek]

yeah shes over there

[jovial breach]

Over where

[small creek]

👉

[static isle]

what's your opinion on the splitter spam strat vs the belt clog strat
to modulate power

[small creek]

if u must ask me of all ppl, modulating power is not the best way to save power

[dense wyvern]

Between those 2? I prefer belt clog I think. Less facilities?

[static isle]

I'm at 1760 in Wuling rn so I'm not even bothering and just running 1 thermal (1800)

[dense wyvern]

Right now it's fine, but if we have to expand factory with new buildings, I'm not sure if it'll clog protocol space thingy.

[earnest steeple]

You should know Sandleaf shreds 1:3, so you don't need 3 inputs of sandleaf. Just one input, and take each belt of powder to your 3 grinders. This opens up two depot slots, of which, one of them you should bring in more ferrium to make it 100% efficient. I'd worry about efficiency over space. Others have given you suggestions on where to fit the production lines.

[dense wyvern]

You can easily remove 2 sandleaf dispensers.

And then form one shredder have 3 belts out to 3 grinders.

[sand pivot]

oh wait I did not know about the 1:3 ratio on sandleaf powder, ty ty

[dense wyvern]

The more you know.

[small creek]

alternatively you can also output sandleaf powder directly to waste 2 more depot unloaders 👍

[sand pivot]

oh yeah that completely escaped my eyes, I never noticed the 3 powder for 1 plant

[earnest steeple]

They're different strategies because they offer different guarantees, and neither are needed since you just get extra batteries that goes to storage (which eventually fills up and you can't sell anyways):

• Splitter - you know how much power you want, it just reduces your power output to match how much you need instead of always spending in 1.5 batteries/min. If you mess up, everything dies, and you have to fix stuff.
• clog strat - you don't know or don't care how much power you want. when the system dies, it sort of fixes itself. But your factory no longer runs at 100% efficiency because when it's dead and fixing itself, you aren't making anything.

[dense wyvern]

I hate the random spikes in production... Can't even pinpoint where it comes from.

[leaden drift]

In wuling one jincao planter and seed picker is all you need for 1 sky forges charcoal use

[static isle]

I think this is like the first bottleneck for every factory newbies

the first expression is just pretty linear

[earnest steeple]

I thnk in V4, the first thing is understanding that bottles require 2 lines of amethyst/ferrium in. Then it's the sandleaf ratio.

Later on in Wuling, then you learn about different planting ratios, then you learn that carbon is made differently.

[dense wyvern]

Gotta love all these win and surprise scratch cards.

[small creek]

i got 280 on both

am i just average

[dense wyvern]

I'm saving them.....

Seeing too much oroberyl makes me tempted to roll,.

[small creek]

haha look at this guy practicing self restraint

lmaoooooo

[dense wyvern]

[small creek]

me who got sucked dry by gilberta

[static isle]

wording???

[sand pivot]

better?

[small creek]

wait

uhhhhhhh

lets just keep it like that for documentation purposes

[dense wyvern]

It's better yeah.

[small creek]

anw im at 15k rn

[static isle]

better but not optimal

[sand pivot]

how come it's not optimal?

[dense wyvern]

You're wasting one line of sandleaf powder so that red mark appears.

[static isle]

sandleaf splits 1/3 not 1/2

[dense wyvern]

It's not that big of a deal.

[static isle]

you're wasting one line of powder

[dense wyvern]

But some people can't stand the red mark.

[sand pivot]

oh

I mean nothing I can do with it tbf

I'd have to use a bridge

[small creek]

fuck thta 1 line of powder

[sand pivot]

to get it out of there

[small creek]

you need 5 anw for 1 battery

let that 1 go to waste

worry abt the other one

[dense wyvern]

It's fine. If you want to keep the symmetry just leave it like that.

Sandleaf is easy to make anyways.

[static isle]

factory building:
compact, efficient, symmetric
pick two, you can't have all three

[turbid gyro]

you can have all three

[sand pivot]

yeah I mean I prefer symmetry, if it was something that was causing the machines to clog and slow down the final product I'd worry but in this case the sandleaf powder is just an intermediary product, I don't worry about it too much

[dense wyvern]

Yeah, then that's fine.

[unique edge]

how to get more of the originium ores?

[static isle]

find mines

[small creek]

its difficult but some have succeeded in all three

[unique edge]

theres no more of them in valley 4

[small creek]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468746019788554423

this ones kinda crazy

[sand pivot]

do bridges slow down the belt delivery rate?

[somber snow]

dont think so

[dense wyvern]

I like my factories to be easier to manage.

So I pretty much avoid full production lines.

[hidden mural]

I have notice that the bridges does kinda slow down the belt a little

[sand pivot]

yeah I tried to do the same but then it becomes even harder cause you have to constantly check the report to see if you're producing or using more of something

[dense wyvern]

It's also nice when you unlock the meta transfer.

[verbal lintel]

how do i unlock this? i need it for depot buses

[sand pivot]

ig that goes both ways tbh cause if you're using as much as you're producing you won't have anything in the depot for transfer no?>

[verbal lintel]

(i dont see the mission in my quest list)

[sand pivot]

talk to the robot owl close to your outpost

[sand pivot]

this little guy

[dense wyvern]

The start of the quest should be from the mail?

but I think the prerequesite is to unlock the bunny?

[somber snow]

how bad is it?

[verbal lintel]

ive never seen this before, where on the map is it?

[dense wyvern]

Should be near your AICs.

[turbid gyro]

[verbal lintel]

thank you, that appears to be this spot, but he isnt present for me. i guess it probably is down the questline even though i have access to the unlock already

[dense wyvern]

Have you unlocked the bunny yet?

The Depo quests starts from a mail iirc.

Not really a quest but you get the point.

[ancient charm]

admiring the beautiful number

[verbal lintel]

i dont think so, i havent gotten the task message for anything related to depot yet

[ancient charm]

the bunny is for stock trading and is at the entrance to the worker dorms

[verbal lintel]

ohhh its the sketches of innocence quest

tysm

[narrow garden]

i can make a buckflower production line without any aic output right?

[ancient charm]

yes

[narrow garden]

w

big stonks

[ancient charm]

two planters and one seed extraction unit

[dense wyvern]

Enjoy your Depos 🙂

[winged raptor]

oh God that Ferum usage is aweful

[dense wyvern]

Current Data doesn't look so bad though.

[ancient charm]

amethyst probably the most useless ore in the endgame

ferrium usage looks fine?

unless you are referring to the theoretical usage

[winged raptor]

well its sill 1.0, they could buff it

[ancient charm]

in which then I will have to ask what are you using ferrium for

[ancient charm]

even if they buff you have almost nowhere left to use

[neat kindle]

so the sandleaf uses half of what the seed makes.. and the seed uses as much as the leaf...

[winged raptor]

lots of buck capsule A

[ancient charm]

oh god fix your production line pls

it looks so unstable

[winged raptor]

yeah...

but we'll see, when i reach lv 11 if i really need to do something

yes im poor XD

[ancient charm]

max out your ore mines asap

then you can truly start making money

[winged raptor]

any tips on how?

[dense wyvern]

Just check the map to find any ore points you haven't unlocked.

[winged raptor]

i don't really get how to level this, i just...level up randomly lmao

[ancient charm]

upgrade your depot nodes and the bunny guys, place miners on all your mines

[dense wyvern]

These stuff levels up region.

[winged raptor]

i see, btw what's the max outpost level?

[ancient charm]

12

[sand pivot]

dude LMAO

I am losing my mind

[ancient charm]

how

0 sanity gameplay

[sand pivot]

I just spent all this time trying to make the factory as neat as possible...

I stashed it all on accident

[dense wyvern]

My condolences.

[sand pivot]

cause the select tool doesn't deselect what you previously selected when you select a new thing

🤦‍♂️

[ancient charm]

ggs

[winged raptor]

what about sub AIC?

what's the max level

[ancient charm]

max outpost level is 4

[dense wyvern]

If you mean outposts? They max at 4.

[neat kindle]

I'm sorry for your loss

[dense wyvern]

Region level is shared though.

[sand pivot]

can someone send me a full production line for buck caps A? atp I don't even care anymore 😭

[dense wyvern]

Which server?

[sand pivot]

EU/Americas

[winged raptor]

WHAT, this is locked behind a story

[dense wyvern]

Can't then.

I'm Asia.

[ancient charm]

oh well

[dense wyvern]

That's locked behind Wulfgard story yeah.

[ancient charm]

i was about to share too

[somber snow]

yes,
u need to do wulfgard's companion story

[dense wyvern]

Check your old nodes too.

Sometimes regional level going up increases mining slots.

[winged raptor]

its too late when i realized...

[ancient charm]

this is the best I can give you since I'm in asia

[sand pivot]

it already helps a ton, ty ty

[dense wyvern]

Check in blueprints channel you can probably find something.

[sand pivot]

I tried but the ones I saw were not efficient

[dense wyvern]

[ancient charm]

dang

blueprints not being efficient

is this not a factory game

[sand pivot]

not everyone cares about efficiency though, some people prefer something neat/ aesthetic 😅

though your bp is pretty aesthetic for what it is though gz

[dense wyvern]

Some people have really artistic blueprints too.

[ancient charm]

oh well mine is neat and aesthetic

[sand pivot]

bro I saw a cat bp and it was just belts

[ancient charm]

and full efficiency too

[sand pivot]

no machines no nothing, just belts doing the outline of a cat 💀

[winged raptor]

mine needs some work, i hate seeing lots of belts

[dense wyvern]

I like belts.

[ancient charm]

what is this

wtf

is this some battery farm

[sand pivot]

see I wanna do my own bps but then I get overwhelmed just by the amount of machines the products need to go through

let alone the ratios 💀

[dense wyvern]

I got stuff like this in wuling just to save power.

[winged raptor]

batery and Buck A

[sand pivot]

honestly though, the planters are pretty nice, might redo mine

mine waste a lot of space

[winged raptor]

you'll never know when will your die so better stock up batteries

[sand pivot]

never even occurred to me to place them sideways

[ancient charm]

I think I can defo improve overall efficiency but then it wouldn't be modular and I like my production lines to be modular

[winged raptor]

nothing's worst that waking up and seeing your factory dead

[sand pivot]

btw about this, this is just for one bucks A right?

[ancient charm]

this ensures my factory never dies

[ancient charm]

yes, you can swap the plants out if you want citrome stuff

[winged raptor]

i really need to make this compact

[cedar phoenix]

I have this one if you want for NA/EU : EFO011ea058a7aU2e30O7
6 Buck/min
need to put Buckflowers (like 10 or more) in the red seed-picking unit, and Sandleaf in the orange one

[sand pivot]

I think I might need to rethink my plan because I don't think I can place 2 of these with the stuff I have but I will definitely take inspiration from you

[neat kindle]

circutry

[sand pivot]

ty ty let me have a look

[ancient charm]

You will only have 3 depot unloaders free if you place this in sub pac

[cedar phoenix]

wdym ?

[winged raptor]

btw, is it worth producing this in valey 4 or just go straight to Wuling and make gold gears?

[neat kindle]

it just looks like circutry in bluep[rint mode, it looks cool

[ancient charm]

show the full blueprint for those of us not on NA/EU pls

[ancient charm]

make some cryston components

just for one team is enough

then go gold gear after

it will be easier to fight bosses with some gear than none

[winged raptor]

can i make gold gears in valey 4 or they from Wuling?

[ancient charm]

wuling only

you need xiranite comps

[winged raptor]

i see

[cedar phoenix]

it doesn't fit in the screen entirely
but I think I can do something, just a sec

[neat kindle]

can i get an opinion on this

[ancient charm]

cryston comps only give purple gear

[ancient charm]

why

bro

why

omg

my ocd is acting up

[unreal marsh]

Skill issue

[neat kindle]

you wouldnt want to see my satisfactory save if thats the case LMAO

[dense wyvern]

Well, you're feeding it sandleaf from the depo, so it won't die. But very inefficient.

[winged raptor]

won't happen again

[ancient charm]

uhhh

[neat kindle]

i was wondering yeah it kinda sucked

[ancient charm]

you can probably cut another thermal bank

[dense wyvern]

Do you want the solution or just tips.

[unreal marsh]

You should

[cedar phoenix]

it was heavily inspired by this one (it's not really a 1-on-1 copy, but.. nearly), so you can take this one
#1465179177220050975 message

[neat kindle]

any would help

[ancient charm]

my sandleaf farm

[dense wyvern]

The sandleaf production should loop itself.

[ancient charm]

I copy pasted this five times

[winged raptor]

but yeah for now this factory is ok for leveling sub AIC, imma just optimize later

[dense wyvern]

A seeder produces 2 seeds from one plant.

[neat kindle]

i figured that out

but i just put it back into the depo so its like

half a sandleaf a secohnd

[ancient charm]

oh so the guy integrated the sandleaf into the production line

that is cool

[cedar phoenix]

yep

[ancient charm]

I didn't since there were so much space unused in the main AIC

[dense wyvern]

Not sure what you mean.

[ancient charm]

I just plopped 5 of these in my main AIC

[winged raptor]

WAIT...this node isn't connected

[thick plume]

Very efficient design, need longer belts

[neat kindle]

aw thank you

i know it does

[ancient charm]

btw do you have one similar for HC batts that integrate the sandleaf production?

[cedar phoenix]

Yeah, I managed to do a really min-maxed factory with 1 fully empty outpost, and one almost empty (I can maybe even fully empty it if i try harder i think, but that's already enough for me rn x))

[dense wyvern]

If the loop seeder/planter combo isn't working efficiently or has issues I'd assume either:

1. You didn't put enough seeds/plants to start with to sustain the belt length.
2. You might have too many belts coming out of a facility.

[winged raptor]

bruh...

[thick plume]

Ngl i have too many loops producing a fk ton of sandleaf

The 18 Buck A a min do be nice tho

[ancient charm]

I have 15 loops producing sandleaf

it is probably too much but

[warped niche]

[ancient charm]

it is what it is

[neat kindle]

how would i uhhh... fix it

[winged raptor]

don't do this to me now bro...

[thick plume]

I think my production is like 290/240 (yield/usage), or something like that

[dense wyvern]

Just put more seeds in to start with.

[warped niche]

You guys keep separate planting loops sending directly to depot or just make them as part of every new pipeline?

[cedar phoenix]

the one I use is quite the same a this one if you want : #1466274275240710245 message

[ancient charm]

[thick plume]

Jeez

Id say youre set on sandlead

Leaf

[ancient charm]

yea that would work thanks

[unreal marsh]

gotta minmax

[winged raptor]

bro love living to the edge

[ancient charm]

is there a way to run 4600 for 18/18?

[dense wyvern]

On valley 4 I added it to the line. Wuling just separate.

[unreal marsh]

wait

no

[winged raptor]

[neat kindle]

more seeds where, into both the planting machines?

[marble yarrow]

valley4? yeah

[dense wyvern]

Anywhere you want to start with.

[cedar phoenix]

I would say that's possible if you don't use too much ziplines yeah

not if you add 24 citrome C tho

[cedar phoenix]

oh well.. so even with citrome C x)

but no zipline I guess

[marble yarrow]

guess my zipline count

[cedar phoenix]

idk

like 10

[marble yarrow]

29

[thick plume]

I need to let my batteries build up ngl

[dense wyvern]

Batteries oh noes.

[ancient charm]

uh

[unreal marsh]

2 more zips

[cedar phoenix]

I'm at this (on average in 1d)

[vital plover]

27x33 xiranite farm

Idk if it can shink even more

[cedar phoenix]

but I do 18.66HC batteries, and 17.66 Buck A, just because its possible (+ 24 Citrome)

so it take a bit more power

And maybe I can reduce a bit my power consumption even more.. but i'm done with Valley for now

[unreal marsh]

no bombs?

imagine we had a bomb dispenser like the water jet

but it shoots bomb

[cedar phoenix]

would be a good tower

[vital plover]

So you want a flamethrower

[dense wyvern]

How about fertilizer sprayer....

Mix Murdobuck with Water....

[unreal marsh]

actually would make sense

[cedar phoenix]

I mean.. you can already mix it with liquid Xiranite

[sour lance]

How the hell do I expand the energy supply in Wuling early on? 200 is barely enough for one forge of the sky...

[dense wyvern]

Mix with water and let sprinkler spray it.

[unreal marsh]

bring battery from v4

bring like 5-6k and it will power for a while until you setup wuling bases

[dense wyvern]

Yeah. Bring from V4 is probably easiest.

[sour lance]

Which ones should I transfer? (I have Metastorage)

[unreal marsh]

and it will give you some breathing room too to max out the outpost lev2

[dense wyvern]

Depends on how far you're done with Wuling.

[unreal marsh]

do not use meta transfer for battery

🥀

[dense wyvern]

A complete factory would use Ferrium.

[cedar phoenix]

you can bring like 200 from with your backback

[unreal marsh]

bring it manually

[sour lance]

Ohhhh, gotcha

[unreal marsh]

no you can bring 50x35

xD

[cedar phoenix]

it'll last enough time for you to build a proper base

yeah if you want to x)

[dense wyvern]

At the start if you haven't finished all the mining metastorage dense originium makes sense.

[sour lance]

Sorry my brain is creaking a little

[unreal marsh]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469541236040925307 copy this no need to think

thinking hard copying easy

[sour lance]

So

Bring some batteries from V4
Make the auto xiranite batteries to self-sustain
Profit?

[leaden drift]

If active

Then once stable and want to be lazy do 10 wuling batteries

And use 2

[neat kindle]

is this any better

[vital plover]

but why

[cedar phoenix]

wow

[leaden drift]

Eh

[cedar phoenix]

"better"
depends for what I guess

[jovial breach]

Who's gonna tell him

[neat kindle]

you shouldve seen the last one

[rapid kelp]

Wonder if eventually we'll get oroberyl farming in the Dijang

[leaden drift]

I nominate @jovial breach

[dense wyvern]

Don't waste an unloader slot if you can.

[cedar phoenix]

I mean, it works, so that's something

not optimally, not efficiently, but it works

[dense wyvern]

Also, don't try to confuse yourself too much with so many belts.

Start simple.

[rapid kelp]

It look like tank

[leaden drift]

Check products

[dense wyvern]

If the facility produces 1 output at a time (in formula) just use 1 belt out. If it produces 2 (seeder) make 2 belts from the output side.

[unreal marsh]

yes

[unreal marsh]

😢 wasting deport area

[dense wyvern]

You crossbreeding plants or smth?

[jovial breach]

It doesn't even work, he's using seeds from depot and none of the belts from seeder connect to depot, it will die as soon as his seeds run out

[unreal marsh]

imagine somwhow bro discovered hidden feature

[neat kindle]

so 1 seed deport unloader, and 2 belts seed deport loader

[dense wyvern]

No unloader.

[sand pivot]

@ancient charm ty for the bp, I cooked this up

[dense wyvern]

Start like this. A planter that will make a plant that goes into the seeder.
The seeder will then make 2 seeds from that plant. One will go to the belt at the top and one will go down to the planter at the bottom.

[sand pivot]

it's basically the same with slight tweaks (personal preference) + it saves up vertical space

[dense wyvern]

So that works by itself without needing an unloader.

[neat kindle]

i mean youre kinda right

[dense wyvern]

(But you have to put seeds in to start it)

[leaden drift]

I am thinking about a toggle based reactor crucible

[marble yarrow]

im just testing the customizable "x empty slot every y seconds". then i can actually finally do the "give item every 5 seconds" which isnt attainable using unloader alone

[dense wyvern]

Now with the seed that goes into the top belt, you can add another planter to make a plant for factory use.

So you get something like this.

[jovial breach]

Something is not right, those 2 grinders at the bottom doesn't work at 100% eff?

[marble marsh]

Unlocked my second factory time to start mass production with my second forge of the sky

[sonic summit]

guys is max forge of sky is 2 ?

[dense wyvern]

Yeah

[cedar turret]

look at theoretical to find out your maximum output, then look at actual to see if you are actually producing that output

[unreal marsh]

hardlocked to 2

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1273933998762229845/1461976616791052320/0a95b7799ce84c67d5e77509fcd376cb.gif

i think they will remove the limiter on the next update (1.1)

[sonic summit]

what optimal aic output if i use 1 forge for gear + saving xiranite

[jovial breach]

Increase to 3

[dense wyvern]

Optimal for what?

[unreal marsh]

please no

[dense wyvern]

1 efficient gear line already takes all the xiranite.

[sand pivot]

they need 1 more shredder each and 1 more planter, I'll fix it in a bit

[dense wyvern]

You got it.

[neat kindle]

:D

[dense wyvern]

[sonic summit]

nah i going for 6 lc bat while the 2nd forge is used to make gear

[unreal marsh]

i think we need 3 more sky just to bring everything to optimal condition

[dense wyvern]

Not sure what you mean by optimal AIC output.

If you're using 1 xiranite line for parts, then yeah, 6 batteries is what you can make with the other.

[jovial breach]

New outpost tend to always generate more money so we definitely need more than double of what we have

[sand pivot]

@jovial breach although in the bp they sent me it's not efficient either now that I notice

[limpid shale]

You will cap the market with just 2 batt, and also we only need 2k or 3k components a week.

[vital plover]

Bat or capsule which sell more?

[jovial breach]

Hmm seems normal to me...

[dense wyvern]

V4 stuff? HC batteries and Buck/Citrome A same price.

[marble marsh]

On my second factory should I do double of this production line to keep my second forge of the sky running forever or should I make something else over there?

[unreal marsh]

which map

[vital plover]

Wuling

[marble marsh]

I'll make the output go into the stash then

[unreal marsh]

battery (wuling variant)

wuling doesnt buy capsules too

[warped niche]

[sand pivot]

how come? aren't the grinders inefficient too? it's 2 buckflower powder and 1 sandleaf powder in the grinding unit

[neat kindle]

how much ori ore yield would i need to make a steady supply of dense ori to use for batteries

[marble marsh]

Purely out of curiosity are there any amytist locations in wuling?

[sand pivot]

not in the current maps

[unreal marsh]

no

[dense wyvern]

For HC batteries full efficiency needs 6 originium lines, so 180?

[marble marsh]

Okey I was just curious about it

[jovial breach]

It's 2 buckle and 1 sandleaf for each grinder in the pic, unless im missing something

[neat kindle]

oh cool, im 3 thirds of the way there since i have a supply of 140

[green moon]

u cant make more than 18

[light ingot]

hold on am I dumb or does the planting unit take more than 2 seconds
like 4 seconds instead
nvm I am dumb
I didnt see I split mine in 2 lines

[green moon]

because cancer stones only got 570

[dense wyvern]

The question was how much ore yield.

[sand pivot]

exactly so my point is, what's the difference between the grinding units in the 2 pics?

[marble marsh]

Welp I'ma go to bed now I'll build my second sky forge farm tomorow

[green moon]

i make 6 HC batteries and 18 buck capsules

[jovial breach]

The belt from the buckle shredder, 1 buckle is 2 powder

[sand pivot]

oh brah, tysm I am terrible with ratios 😭

[dense wyvern]

Missing belts out of these.

[jovial breach]

Yeah the plants are tricky when you shred them

[unreal marsh]

do you manage to empty out outposts with that number?

[leaden drift]

I just spam sandleaf dust for my depot node

[sand pivot]

fixed it, tysm for clarifying it for me I wouldn't have gotten there alone 😭

[green moon]

u cant actually

[unreal marsh]

from what i have seen you get slightly better pay with better tier stuff

[sand pivot]

me and ratios do not get along

[unreal marsh]

we can

xD

[green moon]

lol

[unreal marsh]

just not with that number

[jovial breach]

Doesn't really matter what you put i just click top it up and send

[leaden drift]

The amount u can put in is also cut down

[green moon]

i have enough bills anyway

[unreal marsh]

ye not like we need to put 13k purple goods

[hearty sundial]

does someone have a compact blueprint for buck capsule (A)?

[leaden drift]

Never enough

[jovial breach]

Ok but the 2 stashes in the middle lol, just delete 1

[unreal marsh]

260 and 160 i think?

[sand pivot]

it's for the aesthetic, can't center it 💀

[dense wyvern]

I think it's there for symmetry.

[dense wyvern]

I have it too.

[leaden drift]

Never enough bills

[dense wyvern]

[sand pivot]

idrc about 10 extra power

[jovial breach]

If you ask me, i always say efficiency over symmetry

[sand pivot]

I wish that was my biggest concern rn 😭

[marble yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1011849913124012062/1471910988914757642/Untitled_2.mp4?ex=6991502e&is=698ffeae&hm=dbc0ff3f3dd49f8ca5026cee692e198c99e86c6adfd409127709b1b5a70437c1&

[leaden drift]

I like looks but still efficient ish

[marble yarrow]

just belt them home bro

[vital plover]

Wait this thing consume 1 pcs jeez no wonder my bat died

[unreal marsh]

what is this freaky pole on the ground

[dense wyvern]

With Xiranite Components I just use a control port to make sure it doesn't overuse stuff.

[jovial breach]

Someone actually using control port !?

[leaden drift]

How im lowering output for xiranite comps

[vital plover]

yea that's what happen

i plug 2 lanes in

[dense wyvern]

I mean, you just need 3000 pieces per week.

[vital plover]

and poof my xiranite reserves are gone

[neat kindle]

okay wait do i purely need 180 or do i need 180 because thermal banks use some of it

[dense wyvern]

And you don't really need them immediately too.

[leaden drift]

I was using it before as a toggle for 5k through put

[dense wyvern]

180 originium to sustain one battery line at full efficiency.

[sand pivot]

I think I can fit one more bucks A production in my AIC lowkey

[dense wyvern]

But if you're making batteries you'll end up swapping to use those anyways.

[leaden drift]

I fit two in

[jovial breach]

Just split it tho, you dont even need to touch it again for a while

[sand pivot]

I fit 3 somehow

in my core though

not sub-pac

[leaden drift]

I could but it wouldnt look good

[neat kindle]

well yeah

[sand pivot]

mine doesn't look good tbf 🤣

[leaden drift]

I like it looking good

[neat kindle]

but right now im using 32 for 4 thermal banks, and yielding 172

so.. i might be a little dumb

[dense wyvern]

It doesn't really matter how you do it. I just set 3000 at the start of the week and it's kinda done.

[sand pivot]

if I mess with the belts I can even fit 4 actually

I think

like I am sure I can place 4, just don't know if I'd have enough space for all the belts, that's what I mean

[dense wyvern]

Xiranite can build up if it wants, it's not really a big deal as long as it doesn't reach max.

[sand pivot]

let me show you mine now

[leaden drift]

2 hc 2 buck

Now im pwm wuling batteries

[marble yarrow]

bro we same lmao. and diagonally mirrored also

[leaden drift]

It just feels good

[jovial breach]

I'll just pretend that ember is for fun and you dont actually use her

[leaden drift]

My wuling tho is all overplace

[leaden drift]

All red heads took her to umbral monument trimmed too

[marble yarrow]

i have enough slot left for a final buck A but the facility limit hit me

[jovial breach]

The only 2 maps i hit protocol cap is lodespring and wuling city

[sand pivot]

don't mind the aesthetic of it, I will 100% do some tweaks to it but yeah

[leaden drift]

Lotta space

[sand pivot]

yeah, don't really know what to fit in there though

it's kind of cringe the depot bus is only on 2 sides

[leaden drift]

I hit protocol cap in everything but quarry

[sand pivot]

kind of restricts you creatively

and space wise too

I could fit 4 bucks A in there if I had a bus on the other side, instead of it being perpendicular

[leaden drift]

If protocol caps in aic I hit it a few times in valley pass

Granted I was doing some funky shiz

[somber snow]

can i make this any better?

[uneven aspen]

same mostly because too much wasteful relay towers connecting the entire valley

because i did not know outposts were going to be a thing

[leaden drift]

Ive slowly been making mine more and more optimal

[leaden drift]

The part in red?

[somber snow]

everything

[cedar phoenix]

I mean, you can always do better (almost), so I would say yes

but it's kinda hard to see here with the overlapping blueprint or whatever
plus it depends on what you want to do

[somber snow]

cant figure out how to take a 2d picture of the whole outpost

[cedar phoenix]

you can't, that's why

at least for now

[somber snow]

well, that overlapping bp is literally the same as the facility

[cedar phoenix]

all you can do is stitch together multiple screenshots

[somber snow]

unless that blue hue is blinding

[leaden drift]

You could spread out the pylons and have the belts be cleaner

[somber snow]

anything specific about the belts?

[leaden drift]

The bottom left pylon looks like it could be pushed further left

[sonic summit]

btw is this normal?

[leaden drift]

And then u have the belt enter earlier into the mixer

[leaden drift]

Yes and no

[somber snow]

ill keep that in mind

how do i improve this 1?

[sonic summit]

but i need to so that i can run 2 hc lines in sub pac

[cedar phoenix]

it is, but it's kinda ugly
and you can't put a blueprint like that as far as I know

[leaden drift]

Bring the planters with the mixers closer to rest of the materials

[sonic summit]

just dont include the last 2 output bus

[leaden drift]

You just cant do it in valley pass

You can put unloadsrs on the other side too

Just not belts

[somber snow]

maybe, but for now, ill keep it as is

after 3 hours of redoing my valley 4,
i think this is fine

[leaden drift]

Ive been making and destroying stuff constantly

[cedar phoenix]

as long as it work, everything is fine

[somber snow]

i destroyed my entire valley 4,
so that i could make it more tidy

[leaden drift]

It took me a video to kinda understand the basics of pwm

[cedar phoenix]

but sometimes, you want more that fine

[sonic summit]

i mean this things works and give me 12 hc bat lines yeah not valley i got scamed

[leaden drift]

But the funny thing was I was already kinda doing it already

[cedar phoenix]

that's a lot of batteries used for power

[leaden drift]

How many makers

Or package

[somber snow]

mine looks like this now,
i think im happy with the results

[sonic summit]

what you mean ?

[leaden drift]

How many packaging units you are using

[sonic summit]

3 for bat

[forest jewel]

hi?

aight now that chat is dead for 5 seconds, time for me to come on

i have an hc valley battery build but it's like.. really big

[somber snow]

not dead, we're all just making factories

[forest jewel]

idk how to make it more compact

[somber snow]

so anyway, send a pic of ur hc production

[forest jewel]

i got video

[somber snow]

that works

[sonic summit]

who?

[somber snow]

cheebse

[marble yarrow]

i now have a 5-sec unloader

[somber snow]

do u wanna c mine?

wait

wrong guy

[somber snow]

do u wanna c mine?

[forest jewel]

sure sure

[forest jewel]

i wonder how small you got urs

[somber snow]

if u cant understand what u're seeing becuz of the blue hue,
im just gonna have to make a video

[marble yarrow]

12/min = every 5 sec 😭

[cedar phoenix]

first you can try having all your depots next to each other, this will force you to place differently your power poles, but it will help you reduce the overall size of it all

[forest jewel]

noted

[leaden drift]

You could move everything closer if you wanted

[sonic summit]

wut happend with his hc lines?

[leaden drift]

@forest jewel you could also offset and centralized samdleaf dust

So it has less travel time

Similar too..

[somber snow]

this is my hc bat production

there are probably more compact designs out there,
but im proud of this 1

[leaden drift]

This is for wuling

But same concept

[sonic summit]

meanwhile my wulling battery is a mess

they do work producing 6 but still

[leaden drift]

Im still messing with stuff

But i am trying to pulse it

Between xirnaite comps and wuling battery

With wuling battery having priority

But if it over flows it automatically switches to xiranite componenets

Full production

[leaden drift]

Yeah but im producing 10 wuling bat and 1 xirnate comp

I want an auto failover

[cedar phoenix]

I have one side that do both components and batteries, and one side that do only batteries

[marble yarrow]

lets see how this holds when offline

[cedar phoenix]

the other is the same thing, but without all the component part

[leaden drift]

Yeah im working towards something like that with pwm xiranite

[sonic summit]

tbh i making my lines before i get depot bus

[leaden drift]

Same ish

Its all theory

[cedar phoenix]

the only downside of my design I see for now, is that when I'll get full on component (it's not happening anytime soon) then maybe my refinery will be messed up.. idk

[sonic summit]

surely this place enough to make pulse

[exotic lynx]

Hi quick question but it’s my factory good
If not could u give me some ideas on how to make it better thanks

[sonic summit]

.... too many wasted space?

[exotic lynx]

?
How

[exotic lynx]

Haven’t finished it yet cuz I need more credits btw

[cedar phoenix]

You use a lot of protocol stashes.. and use a lot of ports to not make a lot of things of it

[sonic summit]

you can optimize the farm is more like this tbh

[exotic lynx]

What are protocol stashes?

[leaden drift]

Mine when i make it should be able to auto sort itself clear as needed

[sonic summit]

sthis

[exotic lynx]

So I need more machine things

[real marsh]

Yo lads i wnat to set up a PWM system to conserve on power any tips?

[cedar phoenix]

these

[exotic lynx]

I have one for every item thing

[cedar phoenix]

I mean, if you want to produce every item, why not, but a lot of items don't really need to be mass produced (or even don't even need to be produced at all even)

[leaden drift]

There's a good video I watched like 8 hours ago

https://youtu.be/sIV89L07DXI?si=LZO9f_76tlhnhLzU

[exotic lynx]

Which items do u think arnt needed
And which items are more useful

[sonic summit]

the for end game its 18 buck a 18 hc bat 12 buck c and 12 ciromin c

[leaden drift]

He also has a website in the description for helping calculater what you need

[cedar phoenix]

the items you need are mostly the ones that you can sell, and everything you need to do them

other than that, maybe bombs.. and it's not even that much needed as long as you have some stock of it

[exotic lynx]

Thanks bro

[exotic lynx]

Like in the outposts?

[leaden drift]

@real marsh

Also use powered of protocol stashes

[exotic lynx]

So should I use the main area for the necessary items and the outposts for other not so much needed items ?

[leaden drift]

They are your friend

[cedar phoenix]

and the items that sell the most, in end game (once every valley outpost is max level), are HC batteries (which you also need for power), Bucks A (or Citrome A), and some Citrome C

[cedar phoenix]

the main area and the outposts all share a common storage, so you can produce everything wherever you want between them
as long as they are from the same region

[exotic lynx]

Ah ok

Tysm

[leaden drift]

I tend to use outpost for smaller stuff

Granted I did turn valley pass into one giant buck a farm

[sonic summit]

same, i made 6 buck a and 12 ciromin there

[marble yarrow]

5-round burst (slightly imperfect)

[cedar phoenix]

I managed to fit 2 Bucks and 3 HC lines in the main area, so I even have a fully empty outpost

[leaden drift]

??? It barely fits 1 at 100% efficiency

Or are you talking about output a minute

[sonic summit]

no i talking about output

[leaden drift]

Ah I count that as one

[sonic summit]

yes

[leaden drift]

Im making spare steel for steel parts

For an off site hc battery maker

[sonic summit]

barely fit it almost maxed

[mellow iris]

is this the most ferrium in wuling? whats the max ferrium i can get in wuling

[leaden drift]

115 a minute I believe

[cedar phoenix]

that's all yeah
so 90/min

but you can also transfer 25/min from Valley using metastorage, so you end up with 115/min

[mellow iris]

damn not even enough for 2 yazhen syringe c production lines

[leaden drift]

Yup only 1

[mellow iris]

can i automate the transfer?

[cedar phoenix]

yeah

[somber snow]

no, thats usage,
the ore production is only 90

[cedar phoenix]

it's a batch of 1500 items (for ferrium, can be less depending on the item you transfer) every hour

[leaden drift]

You can get 115 with meta storage

[marble yarrow]

buh

another day skip

[leaden drift]

1500/60

[mellow iris]

but sadly my valley IV ferrium generation is also maxed to the brim for cash

[somber snow]

well yeah,
i was strictly talkin about wuling's ore production

[leaden drift]

There isnt much else to transfer over

[somber snow]

they actually dont take any ferrium from ur valley 4 factory,
they materialise from thin air

[mellow iris]

i make as much as i produce

rate my pac yields as of now