aic-factory

[leaden drift]

messing around with the oscillating power stuff

[unreal laurel]

wait....

why make wuling batteries

[leaden drift]

to be afk

and not worry?

[unreal laurel]

360originium is enough for like 12 belts/48thermal banks

im no mathmatician but i think 48 thermal banks is enough

[leaden drift]

also wuling battery is good to sell to the outpost

[craggy whale]

also for use

since its has 1600 power

[unreal laurel]

it uses precious ferrium

[craggy whale]

do we care?

[unreal laurel]

and originium is used for nothing except batteries anyways so why not use them raw

why waste limited xiranite on space efficient power?

[leaden drift]

originium is also used for comps

[autumn fern]

oh... is that you?

[craggy whale]

wuling battery doesnt use ferrium

???

wit

the only thing u use ferrium in wuling is syringe

[atomic fiber]

Xiranite is the most precious things yeah

[craggy whale]

no... nooo sir

[leaden drift]

lol

[craggy whale]

wtf is this

whats ur usage now

[leaden drift]

efficent battery use in V4 for 5600 power usage

[craggy whale]

lemme have ur usage with hc battery there

[leaden drift]

?

[craggy whale]

how many u use every min

[lament obsidian]

unefficient battery use in valley iv after i sold my batteries 🤷‍♂️

[craggy whale]

u have 5 thermal but ur usage still 7

rip

[lament obsidian]

tho its nice to experimenting

[leaden drift]

3 are un used

so im actually using 6

i made that as a turn off for the notification if needed

[craggy whale]

wdym unused

[atomic fiber]

you always want to stock up some battery first before playing with pwm or DIGE

[leaden drift]

i think im okay with 20k atm

[atomic fiber]

yeah... 20k should be ok

[leaden drift]

Technically i was still gaining batteries even when selling them

[atomic fiber]

in normal case that should be how it is

[smoky eagle]

Lmao it was posted here before

[leaden drift]

i was running 6 batteries originally

[craggy whale]

@marble yarrow i think at this point splitting em and making the small system for each sides the only way to do XD

[leaden drift]

i do save alot more in wuling

923 batteries a day with 2700 power usage

or 1060 with 2600 power usage

[lament obsidian]

what is this dige about? if someone could explain it briefly

[royal eagle]

For max output we have to give max input or making multiple factories gives same output ?

[grave wedge]

Guys will I get 100% efficiency if I use two transport belts on Forge of the sky ?! One for packaging and gearing and other for Protocol stash

[sand pivot]

how do I use regional transfer btw? I kinda forgor

[unreal laurel]

i think ill be fine

[grave wedge]

The best

[atomic fiber]

DIGE is PWM implementation for AKE. because PWM is designed for real life isn't much compatible with how factory in AKE behave.

here is the link to DIGE
https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[sand pivot]

you will not be fine 😭

[unreal laurel]

after setting aside originium to make max a gearing unit,i got this much power

[grave wedge]

Go to PAC and there’s button for that

[royal eagle]

?

[leaden drift]

idk its been working well in wuling

[grave wedge]

Guys will I get 100% efficiency if I use two transport belts on Forge of the sky ?! One for packaging and gearing and other for Protocol stash

[atomic fiber]

in more simpler explanation. it basically a technique to save your battery usage.

example:
you are able to run your power bank at half power so you saving half battery you normally use for 1 power bank

[atomic fiber]

yeah

[atomic fiber]

i don't understand the question. please be more descriptive

[leaden drift]

Not as good in valley 4 granted it does save nearly 200 batteries a day

in wuling im saving nearly 1k

[royal eagle]

If i want max efficiency then i have to give max input to packing unit or i can use multiple and give them single input each

[lament obsidian]

looking at the site it seems is plays with the reserve energy, and feed battery again before it becomes a shortage and fill the reserve again

[atomic fiber]

yes that is how it work

[atomic fiber]

use multiple of what? single input?

[leaden drift]

so u have a power grid reserve in the AIC of 100000 power

[somber snow]

quick question,
if ur energy usage is higher than your energy production,
your battery will decrease from 100%,
but if you put in more batteries in more thermal banks to have more production than ur usage temporarily,
will your battery recharge back to 100%?

[spring orchid]

make sure the ratio is the same with the refined goods ur planning to make

the ratio of resources

[small creek]

yes that is the principle of how PWM works

[royal eagle]

Multiple packing units and one input of bottle and meds(in ratio)

[leaden drift]

yes

[somber snow]

i see, so thats what ppl have been messing with

i wanna try that

[atomic fiber]

ah... no you must always have max input (enough input) for each packing unit

[small creek]

theres a much simpler alternative but ig its not that popular for some reason

[leaden drift]

i have this one for 2700 power saving me 923 batteries a day

[lament obsidian]

it sais i could save 1800 daily 🤔 thats not bad

[atomic fiber]

it is good

[small creek]

ppl would rather get a degree in electrical engineering than optimize ziplines and use raw originium

[atomic fiber]

raw originum isn't that good

[leaden drift]

ive been slowly optimizing my ziplines

[atomic fiber]

turn that into bettery first before using them

[small creek]

the thing is, its sufficient

and the amt extra the game gives us in both regions is enough to supplement normal banks w batteries

[atomic fiber]

sufficient is easy af. any random design can easily sufficient

[royal eagle]

If i give this packing unit 3:3 it will give me more per min eff ?

[small creek]

and efficient? not really

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463037619091800227/1472087144947519660/image.png?ex=6996917d&is=69953ffd&hm=2a8fce995ea0d1067495c02e6b893ef5dbae87e316b07b94c10dacf36cff1e2e&

[atomic fiber]

look at the formula

[small creek]

2.1/2.2k wuling

not shown: 1.5/min xir comp

[royal eagle]

Its 1:1

[spring orchid]

ah yes

component compensation

(probably the best way of handling power in wuling rn)

(besides PWM)

[royal eagle]

Rn im using 3 factories and it is giving me 9

[atomic fiber]

you don't need to always run xir comp if u just want to be sufficient
can just run it for awhile than remove them. many of my lazy friend is like that

[small creek]

and have leftover batteries? not my style

its easy to stop producing xir comp and just accept the battery overflow

and slap 2 banks using batt

[atomic fiber]

what battery are you even making now

[spring orchid]

having more components is nice for artificing

I am making 0,5 components rn

[small creek]

but then 2 banks is a lot of waste, thats when u put pwm

[spring orchid]

but having thoughts to turn it to 1/min

[small creek]

but what im saying is

[royal eagle]

Purple

[atomic fiber]

yeah... at the end is just how much you want to perfect your factory

[small creek]

if u use originium, u dont need pwm

[royal eagle]

I just want to max my productivity

[spring orchid]

components use less originium

which you can use for power

to be specific, each battery -> components provide you with 3x originium thermal banks

[open heath]

Hello 👉👈

[atomic fiber]

purple isn't 1:1 look at the formula again

you need 4 Ferrium ore and 6 originum ore input

which will become

3 dense originum power belt and 2 steel part belt before going to the packaging unit

[royal eagle]

I was talking about meds

[leaden drift]

if you used all originium ore for power u would get 2600w

[royal eagle]

Im not crafting batteries

[atomic fiber]

again it depend how much perfection you want
if you want the most efficient answer, you want pwm

[leaden drift]

to max output comps u would need 6 belts for orgnium

[small creek]

just for record, mine is
no manual hc batt import
no pwm
no wuling batt overflow
exhausts outpost income
still produces xir comp

[small creek]

and i argue its not the most efficient

[strong quiver]

The good thing is

[spring orchid]

pwm is still not efficient

in the current state of wuling

[small creek]

esp when the alternative is… much simpler

[spring orchid]

^

[small creek]

put the originium in the bank

[spring orchid]

and btw, you'll reach max battery

sooner or later

[strong quiver]

Sandleaf infinite belt perfectly supply 3 grinder line

[spring orchid]

if you produce more than 9 batteries/min

[small creek]

wuling batt overflow is not efficient

arguably, you are wasting xiranite that can be xir comp

[spring orchid]

I don't want to have stockpile overflow

[atomic fiber]

oh... then it need 8 Ferrium ore and 2 plant generator. that also not 1:1 yeah? what even is 1:1?

[spring orchid]

I would say rn a 10 batteries/min and 1 xiranite component

is the most efficient setup

so it won't overflow

9-10

[small creek]

pwm is like “good enough” type shi but if ppl want a simpler yet more perfect soln, its just originium in bank 🤷

[spring orchid]

I use 11 because I wanted to swap some production for jinchao

[small creek]

it just feels weird so ppl dont do it

and pwm admittedly looks cooler and makes u feel smarter

[leaden drift]

ive drop battery usage to 2.5 ish a minute not too bad

[royal eagle]

1 steel bottle :1 powder

[leaden drift]

so i should be able to drop battery production

to up comp production

[spring orchid]

if you have below 2.2k

it's worth it to just

use originium in the bank

[atomic fiber]

wuling batt won't overflow
people that do pwm can also into complex stuff and sweaty stuff too.

tbh it depend on what you need u need. you can do more xir comp, or generate liquid xiranite and more

[spring orchid]

more than 2.2k than yeah u go pwm

[leaden drift]

im sitting at 20k

[open heath]

I'm kinda new to Arkfield, idk what I'm doing, this is my first creation, y'all have any recommendation for faster outputs? My creation is kinda slow

[spring orchid]

No I'm talking abt power consumption here

[sand pivot]

what is the difference between current data and theoretical data? my current data says everything is fine, my theoretical data shows a deficit for a bunch of products

[spring orchid]

not battery stockpile

[leaden drift]

im above it

[spring orchid]

then yeah pwm is fine

[leaden drift]

i have alot of out of map ziplines

[spring orchid]

I just placed enough ziplines

for the shippings

[atomic fiber]

ah... then yeah 1:1 but you need correct belt amount too you need 2 belt of each of them

[royal eagle]

What if i do 3:3

Will it give or same

[atomic fiber]

same. because your building can only take so much stuff

[real crescent]

Why are you splitting off 1/3 of fiber/crust when you dont meet your gearing units demands?

[royal eagle]

Yeah

Thanks alot@atomic fiber

[open heath]

I'm kinda just experimenting for now, idk what I'm doing

[spring orchid]

which item are you making?

[sly field]

From what I understand, current data counts based on what's in and out from your storage only, theoretical counts based on in and out from non storage, cmiiiw

[spring orchid]

for the 3:3 input

[strong quiver]

General rule of thumb is remember conveyor belt cap at 1 unit every 2 second

[open heath]

I was tryna make 5 items in one

[atomic fiber]

buck A

[shrewd knoll]

dont use splitters or convergers until you have a firm understanding of the game, they will just make everything bigger and less effective, unless you are aiming for that

[spring orchid]

uhh

no.

Buck A is 4:2

[royal eagle]

Trying to make capsule A

[strong quiver]

So say if you have a production that needs 10 item that produce in 10 second

[spring orchid]

check the ratio again @royal eagle

Buck A is 4:2

[atomic fiber]

he asking what will happen if he put 3 belt of bottle and 3 belt of powder

[spring orchid]

optimally you go 4 bottle 2 powder

iirc

[atomic fiber]

wait 4 bottle?

[open heath]

Aight got it

[spring orchid]

yep

ratio is important

[atomic fiber]

damn... i remember things wrong

[royal eagle]

Im talking about final ratio its 1:1

[open heath]

Aight imma get rid off that splitter then

[somber snow]

dont split ur belts,
have 2 belt lines of originium into 2 refiners,
2 belt lines of amethyst into 2 refiners,
connect all 4 belts into the gearing unit,
then connect a belt from the gearing unit to the PAC,
dont use protocal stash, so that u use less energy

[spring orchid]

final ratio as in?

[sand pivot]

ahhh I get why it's in deficit now, like let's say I am producing amethyst parts but not storing them into the depot anymore and I take some old ones that I produced when I was storing them, it will give me a deficit even though in reality it's not really a deficit?

[real crescent]

Oh ye its better/less of a mess to have a line per item at the start. Look at what your final machine (in this case the gearing unit demands and them try to supply that)

[royal eagle]

Bottle : powder

[strong quiver]

You need 20s of material supply for 10s of production, so your production machine cap at. 50% efficiency
Therefore you need to have 2 input belt for it to reach max production efficiency

[shrewd knoll]

this also applies to buildings, dont make multiple belts out of it unless it produces multiple items at once

[spring orchid]

uh no

[open heath]

Since I don't need to use protocol stash I'll just connect it to the big aic tower thingy right?

[spring orchid]

bottle : powder is 4:2

[somber snow]

yes

[spring orchid]

check the recipe for buck A @royal eagle

[royal eagle]

Ok

[open heath]

Aight thanks

[sly field]

Yea you got the point. Theoretical not counting if your production line that uses the materials is stuck or not. So it can appear deficit in theory, but in practice it may not.

[royal eagle]

Its 10:10

[atomic fiber]

it's 2:2 I'm correct

[spring orchid]

it's 10:10?

ahh

ok so 2:2 yeah

not 3:3

[royal eagle]

Yeah

[spring orchid]

don't go 3:3 @royal eagle

[atomic fiber]

wtf you make me doubt myself smh

[spring orchid]

go 2:2

[royal eagle]

Yeah

[sly field]

It will be harder to explain for those without math proficiency @sand pivot

[open heath]

aight noted from all that replied

Y'all been a big help

Thanks ❤🙏

I'll apply what I learned now

[spring orchid]

must've mistaken the steel + powder ratio

my bad

[sand pivot]

I got it at least though 😅 it’s annoying to see the deficit but I won’t be storing products I only need every so often ngl LMAO

[open heath]

Yeah that was what I was tryna do, multiple stuff at once but I see that it's very slow haha

[sly field]

At least you get the logic already so I don't need to explain more in depth

[strong quiver]

Also rule of thumb is try to make your production line as narrow as possible

[small creek]

the point of pwm is to save battery because simply making it go directly into a thermal bank produces too much power

what that means is you’re reducing 3/min wuling batt usage to maybe just 2/min (each thermal bank uses 1.5/min, and then you use pwm to reduce the 2nd bank from 1.5 to like 0.5)

that means you’re still using 2 batteries/min, which is less efficient than using 1 thermal bank + raw originium banks (1.5/min flat)

say you’re producing 9batt/1.5comp
with a usage of 2batt/min, your net wuling battery production is 7/min, which is not enough to constantly exhaust the wuling outpost (you need ~7.5/min)

to fix that, you produce more batteries, and the next option is 12batt/0comp

now your net production is 10batt/min, which is 2.5/min in excess (this is the batt overflow im talking about)

and not only that, you also dont produce xir comps as well

forcing pwm in the current state of the game that doesnt need it literally has you put more effort to produce less

[strong quiver]

You gonna need to scale it up and stack it

[open heath]

Aight, noted

[atomic fiber]

uh... i will give u the math later. I'm busy now

[spring orchid]

you don't need pwm if you have enough originium to a degree @atomic fiber

[strong quiver]

EFO01I3A581e2497A5o08

[small creek]

if you stockpile xir comp and dont care abt it afterward, then i guess the batt overflow is basically nothing

but if you assess pwm objectively, its a bit wasteful really

[strong quiver]

Feel free to glaze my magnum opus refinery line

[open heath]

I love this game, making me use my brain and shit

[strong quiver]

[atomic fiber]

no you see you can just produce enough battery without stockpiling at all. Basically only produce exactly what the outpost need

[small creek]

the thing is pwm won’t let you do that…

[spring orchid]

you can go there

[spring orchid]

PWM can do that, it's just less efficient

[small creek]

you will either produce too little or too much

[atomic fiber]

i will explain later and how

[spring orchid]

also, if you do this

you should have enough originium

[atomic fiber]

it's not that hard, but kinda outside now

[small creek]

dont tell me u pwm the xiranite too

[spring orchid]

to even power energy to 2.7k

[small creek]

like the battery is already crazy work

[spring orchid]

at that point

just make components instead

4

[strong quiver]

They better raise the cap of skyforge to 3 in 1.1 tbh

[small creek]

4

[strong quiver]

[small creek]

for fucking real

[spring orchid]

from the pictures looks like it's up to five

which is nice

[leaden drift]

i have a system that auto produces xiranite comps at max battery

[small creek]

we wouldnt need to bother with this pwm or originium bank shit if they just gave us one more forge

[spring orchid]

no

what we need is

[strong quiver]

But that's basically the entirety of wuling unlocked

[spring orchid]

another trader

one subpac trader is not enough

[strong quiver]

We're only getting a region next patch

[spring orchid]

I stockpiled 20k of yanzheng and 20k batteries

[strong quiver]

If lucky

[small creek]

one trader is fine tbh

[spring orchid]

can't sell it anywhere

[small creek]

im able to buy out all engraving permit and catalyst weekly

[spring orchid]

[small creek]

oh

well thats a different problem lmao

[spring orchid]

yeah that's why I say

more traders

would be nice

[small creek]

we got diff problems 🤷

i need more xiranite, using a splitter for ts is ahh

[karmic wasp]

is it wrong to be up & down ?

[small creek]

9/1.5 with 1.5batt use?

[unreal laurel]

Hear me out

[small creek]

you might not have enough ore

[unreal laurel]

I might sound crazy but I need u to hear me out

[karmic wasp]

cant be.

[small creek]

yeah idk then

[unreal laurel]

In wuling,why make xiranite batteries

[karmic wasp]

[small creek]

wtf 10/1

[ancient charm]

Why jincao

[unreal laurel]

Just make the full 6 components

[small creek]

thats cursed and awesome

i didnt know this was possible

[unreal laurel]

Wtf

[warped niche]

[small creek]

did u pwm the xiranite

how tf

[unreal laurel]

Can I pitch an idea

[leaden drift]

cause i was making both yazhen and jincao but the jincao one survived the remake

[leaden drift]

maybe

[small creek]

insane work, nice

[warped niche]

Yes

[small creek]

now this i can agree with

[spring orchid]

there's smth about belts that make the production a bit wobbly

[leaden drift]

i can toggle it into full 6 comp mode too

[small creek]

yup thats definitely fkn pwm xiranite 😭

thats so cool

[leaden drift]

im probs gonna set it up so it auto takes over at max batteries

[small creek]

i am not doing that shi

[spring orchid]

oohhh pwm xiranite

ok that's new

[small creek]

but awesome

[spring orchid]

I prefer stable production

but yes that's p cool

[severe nexus]

What about the case where I pwm valley batteries in v4 so I can both clear outposts and export enough to power wuling without burning any wuling batteries?

[unreal laurel]

All ferium lines for healing
4 line of originium,2 line xiranite for components
8lines of raw originium straight into thermal banks
If you need more power, setup some offline proto stashes to make a hc trickle

[small creek]

you dont need pwm in v4 either, you can power with just 5 banks

excess energy will be 100, which is not worth saving with pwm

[spring orchid]

currently trying to tone it down to four

I think it's possible

with four

[small creek]

good luck 😭

[unreal laurel]

I call this efficiency

[small creek]

u still on that shi

[severe nexus]

What's ur v4 power usage?

[small creek]

and also manually importing hc batt sucks

[leaden drift]

im technically gaining xiranite atm

[small creek]

5.6/5.7

5.8 if u count the raw originium banks

[grave wedge]

Guys will I get 100% efficiency if I use two transport belts on Forge of the sky ?! One for packaging and gearing and other for Protocol stash

[small creek]

but i can honestly remove them and it wont do anything

[severe nexus]

For me it is 4.9k consumption iirc

[small creek]

theyre just buffer energy

[unreal laurel]

That's why you use raw originium banks so you only need 1 trip to sustain a hc trickle

[severe nexus]

So it is worth it for me imo

Haven't done the exact math though

[small creek]

it could be worth for u yea

but it seems like u dont jave zips/turrets

which is another issue in itself yk

[light ingot]

is it better having modular design for the smaller components or as a whole

[grave wedge]

Guys will I get 100% efficiency if I use two transport belts on Forge of the sky ?! One for packaging and gearing and other for Protocol stash

[severe nexus]

I have zips for depot routes and turrets for 1 alluvium

[small creek]

ah

[severe nexus]

Im not sure why your consumption is higher than mine by a lot

[small creek]

mines fully zipped and all with turret

[severe nexus]

Do turrets use that much?

[small creek]

yes

[severe nexus]

That makes sense then

[small creek]

i dont wanna put batteries or turn on/off

[small creek]

its not recommended to directly connect your xiranite to your product line

[severe nexus]

Could maybe cut the pylon and replace it when u need to use the turrets but it is still a hassle

[small creek]

it gets really messy

[flat fable]

Blueprints for endgame bases?

[small creek]

just produce the xiranite separately and use an extra depot unloader for xiranite into product (batt/comp)

[analog elbow]

Turrets for Essence Farm are highly recommended to put Batteries instead of connection to your main power

[leaden drift]

toggled the comp

[analog elbow]

1 HC batteries gives 53K power

[small creek]

wuling batt should go down to 6 yeah?

[analog elbow]

This is some weird graphs

[leaden drift]

wuling battery will take prio

it will probs drop lower if at max batteries

[small creek]

i get that they give a lot of energy and it’ll essentially last u months, but i dont want to replace in months time

i wanna replace never

🤷

[analog elbow]

I'm saying for Wuling

[small creek]

same thing

[analog elbow]

Don't sweat it on V4

[small creek]

they are still alluvium with turret

[leaden drift]

but yeah im probsagonna end up PWM xirnite to comps

[severe nexus]

I only put turrets for the one I ran the most so it's not that taxing

[small creek]

idg how but bet

[leaden drift]

so when batteries are max it locks the protocall stashes

[analog elbow]

What's your power usage with all those in Wuling bruh

[small creek]

zips and turrets

[leaden drift]

well the priority will be Battery > Xiranite > Comps

[small creek]

2.1/2.2

[leaden drift]

2.53

[small creek]

1.5 wuling batt usage (1 bank)

[analog elbow]

mine still under 2K
with maximum Ziplines / Eco farm

[small creek]

you’re batterying turrets right

[glad needle]

1.910 is the sweet spot

imo

[small creek]

anything below 2.2 is good

its the absolute limit of wuling + originium

[analog elbow]

Just put 50 Wuling and you'll be set for idk maybe years we don't grind essence daily anyway

[small creek]

^

[leaden drift]

me and my ziplines going over the mountains

[spring orchid]

ah I'm stuck in 4.8k

in VIV

I need to push it down

to 4.7k

[analog elbow]

That's up to you. I'm just saying since i don't like wasting too much watts

I'm using 1 Wuling 1 HC with Min max

[small creek]

im not wasting any either

[leaden drift]

messy i know

[small creek]

forbidden angle

[glad needle]

MESSI?

https://klipy.com/gifs/ankaramessi-barcelona

[analog elbow]

Power Plateu View
can even see my Core AIC at The Hub

[leaden drift]

i need that zipline again

[analog elbow]

it's shared

not mine

[leaden drift]

yeah

[severe nexus]

Why is endmin blowing up their own stuff

[leaden drift]

i know

[spring orchid]

idk how to

[frail trail]

better place down a zipline of your own up there

[spring orchid]

reduce my

power consumption in VIV even more

😭

[analog elbow]

Nuh uh. i can just walk

[glad needle]

any tricks to do ts

[analog elbow]

i placed one on the highest point

[frail trail]

this is like that one line in cc7 lobby theme

[analog elbow]

Yvonne / Lava would work

[glad needle]

cant place it while jump attack

[analog elbow]

ofc it's fixed already

[glad needle]

sigh

i tried with the camera thing too

[analog elbow]

Dev noticed all these Outbounds things going on. some places even have invisible walls now.

Now in wuling every Mountain has a shared zip line

idk how they get there.

[glad needle]

i mean the mountain part is easy

this one is ass

[analog elbow]

Not that mountain

other mountains

[glad needle]

yea ik

you could get it with ziplines

[nova lodge]

wallbreak, ak endfiend edition.

[analog elbow]

Or even on top of Monitor Building

[random oak]

does anyone have suggestion on what stuff should i produce in my AIC factories? (im on chap 1 process IV)

[glad needle]

near wuling aic you mean

[analog elbow]

Just make Green Batteries first ig

[analog elbow]

NO

[spring orchid]

Have you ever made green/blue batteries

[glad needle]

which one then

[analog elbow]

on those flying thingy

above my head

[random oak]

im on HC bats

[turbid gyro]

does anyone have a good blueprint for thermal bank shitss

[glad needle]

ohh

yea idont know how to do that

[analog elbow]

Wut

[spring orchid]

at max development

[nova lodge]

welp, just gotta grab the drill and i should be more or less done with V4.

[analog elbow]

[spring orchid]

you should be going 18/18/24 @random oak

[somber snow]

ew, drill

[spring orchid]

18 Buck A 18 HC and 24 Buck C

[nova lodge]

collectibles!

[random oak]

why not buck B?

[analog elbow]

this spot is enough for me. i can just walk to the backside to view The Hub

[spring orchid]

needs iron

[analog elbow]

[spring orchid]

18 + 18 uses all of your iron

[random oak]

oh right

[spring orchid]

Buck C uses amethyst

[analog elbow]

No wonder i kept getting Purple Essence. i forgot to increase my explor level to 7

[leaden drift]

i

[random oak]

is that all that i should produce?

[leaden drift]

need more stuff for this

[analog elbow]

Bro even bought the Wuling tower

[spring orchid]

for now yes

as long u have max development lvl

[turbid gyro]

thermal bank shits cuz idk where to put my batteries

[frail trail]

produce buck c because it's the only thing useful to make with amethyst

[analog elbow]

Ops

[turbid gyro]

like how do i get more power

[frail trail]

buck b compete ferrium with HC bat and buck a

[turbid gyro]

im stuck at 1.42k

[random oak]

i js need to lvl up reconstruction HQ and thats all

[analog elbow]

What's your current progress

Regional Level

[turbid gyro]

8

[analog elbow]

Hmmm

You should be able to make some HC

[random oak]

should i get rid of my SC and LC lines?

[finite basin]

I bet theres someone insane enough to build a nuclear power plant level of thermal banks

[random oak]

powaaaa

infinite powa

[analog elbow]

this zip line crosses the Hub and park. Weird after effect after crossing

[random oak]

it bugs?

[analog elbow]

no

what bugs

it's normal when you enter another part of Valley or Wuling

[turbid gyro]

there's no bugs in this game

[smoky eagle]

What's the weird after effect

[turbid gyro]

only features

[analog elbow]

Basically the effect of entering another part of region

just kinda like refreshing effect

[random oak]

can anyone help answer

[analog elbow]

show us your protocol management

graphics

[smoky eagle]

Oh

[analog elbow]

ain't no professor charles. can't see your memories

We need to see your Ore usage too

[smoky eagle]

Those should generate valley bills

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2022445936136618386

Zan Kizuna @SoftWar Indie Game (@Raseruuuuu)

finally found a bug in Endfield lmao I sank to the underground of Wuling City

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[analog elbow]

can't tell what to do without basic information

[random oak]

930/min theoretically due to 5 SC bats prod line

[warped niche]

[random oak]

[leaden drift]

this one two

[analog elbow]

wtf

930 usage?

[random oak]

im high on SC bats

[potent mantle]

fianlly

.dump

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[somber snow]

i think hes producing the extras from his rock cancer

[smoky eagle]

Unfortunately i hadn't unlocked the Xiranite relay towers when this happened

[analog elbow]

i saw that b4

[leaden drift]

not even out of bounds and this threee

[smoky eagle]

Is this a thing u can do

[random oak]

how much bats line should i have

[analog elbow]

So you have zip from that TP point too right

[random oak]

one HC bat line or two

[willow tundra]

final version done, i go sleep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xW0-Fwqlx4U

[potent mantle]

can be done, only for those that maxed out their factory production and bored

[leaden drift]

yeah i hav a zipline from Valley pass to power

[analog elbow]

The Zipline Man has arrived

[smoky eagle]

Woah wha directly?

[analog elbow]

Drop us your wisdom O' Bounds One

[potent mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-arknights-endministrator-relay-tower-run-gif-13814105557037984773

[smoky eagle]

I had a good zipline in lodespring

[leaden drift]

it travels through everything

[unreal marsh]

woah

[smoky eagle]

Poggers

[potent mantle]

.dump

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[analog elbow]

.bomb

[cinder sun]

https://tenor.com/view/endministrator-endmin-arknights-endfield-bomb-gif-3801526505005205420

[smoky eagle]

Insane work

[analog elbow]

Cool to see

[potent mantle]

for the bored players lol

[spring orchid]

YES

sorry

busy optimizing my lines

but yes, you should just remove it

HC only

[random oak]

18/min?

[smoky eagle]

Did you use the superjump tech? How do u get up there so high

[warped niche]

[spring orchid]

18 buck A, 18 HC, 24 buck c yes

[analog elbow]

I would say this is the most high yet optimized gacha game

[random oak]

aight thx

[somber snow]

Game so optimised, we start optimising too

[analog elbow]

even my phone from 3years ago that uses Helio G99 can play this smoothly with lowest settings

[turbid gyro]

the only thing i think needs fixing is some shit

[random oak]

thats all for trade and power right?

[somber snow]

Optimising our factories

[turbid gyro]

lies.

i doubt it hasnt blown up

[analog elbow]

?

[turbid gyro]

my friend's phone blew up

[analog elbow]

skill issue

[turbid gyro]

literally yesterday right infront of our faces

[analog elbow]

[turbid gyro]

it was a samsung phone

[unreal marsh]

dam coolest shit on ak updated

[turbid gyro]

so i get why

[analog elbow]

Even the early launch of HSR that isn't open to the world gives my phone a bunch of lags

[frail trail]

the biggest complaint i have about this game is the inconsistence voicing, inconsistence npc model art and model clipping

[analog elbow]

Mine is Techno Pova 4 Pro

[frail trail]

other than that great game

[analog elbow]

but rn I'm using Poco X7 Pro 5G. if this ran out of batteries i just switch

[turbid gyro]

rEDMI Note 13 pro 5g

[analog elbow]

Always play games on lowest settings. even if i can play on medium or high

i will still choose lowest

[turbid gyro]

i am on lowest but its still on red

[analog elbow]

Put some cooler into it

[frail trail]

is it suppose to not be red ?

[random hornet]

bro need to replace thermal paste and cleaning at this point

[analog elbow]

Should be Yellow tho

[somber snow]

I have my settings on max on my ipad, and it was only in orange

[frail trail]

mine was on red this whole time

[turbid gyro]

show me settings

[analog elbow]

lowest

[analog elbow]

I see no point playing at max for me. except you like seeing fancy effects

just max resolution is enough

[somber snow]

YES

[random hornet]

max should be like 70-75C or around 80C for laptop

[unreal marsh]

[analog elbow]

I use phone

[unreal marsh]

laptop gaming

[random hornet]

oh your phone is cooked

[somber snow]

Also, lower fps to like 45 or 30,
It lowers the strain on ur device by a lot

[analog elbow]

Nuh uh

[somber snow]

And u wont even notice a thing

[unreal marsh]

handwarmer

[random oak]

oh my god my HC production line wont fit in hub aic

[turbid gyro]

[analog elbow]

[turbid gyro]

i5 gaming

[potent mantle]

ayo your cpu can fry an egg

[unreal marsh]

[atomic fiber]

your top point is right, but how come you reach to this?

that means you’re still using 2 batteries/min, which is less efficient than using 1 thermal bank + raw originium banks (1.5/min flat)

2 batteries/min usage produce much more power than 1 thermal bank of raw originum. you can't power your wuling with 1 thermal bank + raw originum. 2 battery/min usage of wuling LC battery is equal to 2,333 power more than enough to power wuling.

no pwm should use 2 battery/min. let's say your factory need 2k power. that mean the pwm answer would be around 1.7 battery usage/min.

i feel like you over complicated pwm. pwm is just there to reduce your battery usage really...

why not use raw originum? same reason as to why you still use battery for your power bank because it give too little power

and all the text below is more like wtf... wtf are you even calculating... is it so hard to know that using battery is better than burning raw originum?

if you burn raw originum and make enough xir comp at the same time than you should be able to do the same with pwm really...

[potent mantle]

alrite im done for the day on this silly game

[atomic fiber]

you never need pwm. it just there to save some battery that is all. even noobs know use less stuff = better

[spring orchid]

Ok

It's doable

I made Valley IV to only use 4 thermal banks

[atomic fiber]

yeah see

it nothing magic. and never a must have

it just a tool if people need it

[random hornet]

my valley is like whatever

[cedar turret]

Doesn't matter

Even if you use 5, you still make enough stuff to buy out the outposts completely

[atomic fiber]

you can use 6 too

doesn't matter

[unreal marsh]

how about i use 8

[stark osprey]

Can I see your Jincao line? Something is happening there

[spring orchid]

Yeah uh

this was NOT fun

[atomic fiber]

pwm is only for eff. Just like how you don't burn raw originum but burn battery normally

[spring orchid]

optimizing the lines

[sand pivot]

any clue as to why my factory is broken?

[spring orchid]

it's w/e though

[stark osprey]

change the recipe

[atomic fiber]

wrong recipe

[sand pivot]

you can do that manually? I thought it did automatically from you giving it the right mats?

[somber snow]

if u're trying to make HCs,
you need steel parts,
you're using ferrium parts rn

[stark osprey]

In your case you either changed the line or just selected the wrong recipe

[sand pivot]

oh crap you're right

I didn't even notice the difference lmao

tysm

[random hornet]

pwm is not even good, it eat way too much protocol capacity, and cap at 40xx max energy
there's better setup that reduce the same if not more that doesn't use up that much protocol capacity and doesn't have a cap

[unreal marsh]

wrong recipe

[somber snow]

i like how everyone keeps saying wrong recipe,
the problem here is that he just didnt notice the difference between steel and ferrium

[frail trail]

you are using the wrong part

need steel part for hc battery, not ferrium

[floral vector]

wish wuling had more originium

[atomic fiber]

don't place it on your main PAC. surely you have empty subpac
or don't tell me everything is maxed

[random hornet]

it counts for the entire map

[stark osprey]

Hold on what are you trying to make that you're running out of originium?

[atomic fiber]

yeah but sub-PAC is on other map

[random hornet]

so wherever you place it, you have less building to place in that entire map

[stark osprey]

are you trying to run a 12/min battery line or what?

[atomic fiber]

what map are you placing that at? at the hub? or wuling city

[floral vector]

im getting 200/min orignium even tho i put a rig on every vein

[stark osprey]

it's 360/min in Wuling

[atomic fiber]

check again

[floral vector]

does the ore purity go higher after regional dev level 4?

[atomic fiber]

found the problem

[stark osprey]

check your veins again and your regional lvl

[random hornet]

I don't use PWM
There's a better set up

[stark osprey]

in Wuling no

[floral vector]

im on lvl4 but it doesnt say anything there that i increases the purity. Only says in lvl 4

[stark osprey]

lvl 4 is the last ore upgrade for now

[floral vector]

weird then i have rigs on each one

[stark osprey]

check again

@floral vector

[floral vector]

checked a million times

[atomic fiber]

if you doing that with battery that is pwm... i feel like people overthinking pwm

[stark osprey]

used the wrong rig perhaps?

[atomic fiber]

split belt into 2. pwm done

[stark osprey]

like you put a manual one by accident

[frail trail]

did a pylon get disconnected or smth

[stark osprey]

or that

[random hornet]

PWM is fun but it has clear limitation, the moment your powerusage exceed 4100, everything breaking apart

[bright zodiac]

lie

[random hornet]

my setup doesn't really care about that

[floral vector]

yep checked again all have rigs

[atomic fiber]

are you talking about the oldest design that have like 999 splitter? no one use that now, and that doesn't work anyway

[random hornet]

idk tbh, I jst build my own

[atomic fiber]

ye

that is pwm

[nova lodge]

phew, wulling all done.

[random hornet]

I don't keep up with what other people do on PWM

[atomic fiber]

no need to... that complex pwm you see doesn't work btw. so no need to understand it either

[stark osprey]

this looks cursed for no reason

[random hornet]

you just need to slap this into a generator at the side of your PAC and you're done

[bright zodiac]

i just made my own (i can delay more, add more, or tweak here and there simply by adding splitter or fake out belt path)

[plush dew]

chat in thermal banks if i put og ore, it can only supply 50 power even if i add more? like if i put two into one bank it will only supply me 50

[random hornet]

if you want to be more optimal then just extend the length of the belt

[unreal marsh]

buh

[atomic fiber]

that is cursed

[bright zodiac]

ohnyooo

[young stag]

air drying

[unreal marsh]

only I forget to move bottles and this rate crashes to 6

[random hornet]

it's very stable
you don't need it tbh, your efficiency gain is like ~50 power

[unreal marsh]

I wish we could move 2 through the meta transfer thingy

750-750

[plush dew]

:D

[atomic fiber]

newest pwm is like this. and yes they changed the name now, it's dige

[somber snow]

yeah,
the thermal bank can only take 1 at a time

so u need more thermal banks to increase your power output

[floral vector]

here see all are powered

[plush dew]

BRUHHHH

ok thanks

[unreal marsh]

are you level 4 yet

[frail trail]

missing a bed in maintenance zone and hulu cave

[floral vector]

yes

[floral vector]

is that another area? I have wuling city and jingyu valley only

[somber snow]

did u put any 1 of ur rigs on storage by accident?

[floral vector]

no i never opened it even

[frail trail]

both are in wuling

[stark osprey]

what about this one?

[floral vector]

ah i havent been there so its not unlocked but even then that wouldnt get me to 300

[unreal marsh]

I think it will

[tidal adder]

What the maximum amount of originium ore you can generate per minutes in valley IV

[unreal laurel]

anyone else have this bug

[stark osprey]

what bug?

[unreal marsh]

is this properly set

[frail trail]

560/m

[unreal laurel]

is it?

i thought it was

[unreal marsh]

go caps lock and see if the direction is correct

[stark osprey]

I wish we had the Wuling depot buses in Valley 4

[leaden drift]

wacha mean

also in theory when xirnate maxed purple comps become 6 with this

[stark osprey]

you're going from 5 to 6 and than flat line at 5 which means that the system is getting stuck somewhere

[leaden drift]

yeah because it requires more ferrium than provided

[stark osprey]

Even so. that's not even at 5.5 but worse

5.75 is the best we can do for now even with metastorage transfer

[round barn]

what's the maximum originium ore in valley?

[leaden drift]

i might have math something wrong

[turbid gyro]

IT IS TIME

[stark osprey]

you did

[shrewd knoll]

its the liquid

[turbid gyro]

3.66K POWER. how can i increase this further

[shrewd knoll]

your ferrium should not be backlogging if it was a deficit

[stark osprey]

@leaden drift

[turbid gyro]

now that i have hc batteries, what next

[spring orchid]

expand

until you have like the maximum production

[frail trail]

get max ore if you haven't

[turbid gyro]

how do you do that

[frail trail]

also buck a and hc bat going into the same stash could brick your production

[spring orchid]

max your development

[cedar turret]

18x batteries, 18x meds, 24x tier c meds

[turbid gyro]

should i separate those?

[cedar turret]

Fully efficient med line is 6x

[frail trail]

you should, granted that will only happen if you let it run for like a month

[random hornet]

med line won't be 6x all the time

[deft thicket]

is that cool

[turbid gyro]

okay then

[royal eagle]

6/min 25×44

[leaden drift]

i am also trying to grow a decent stack of ferrium back

[frail trail]

move the filling unit 1 tile to the left and put a stash right next to it, that should fix everything

[stark osprey]

Ok that makes more sense then

[turbid gyro]

is this for me?

[frail trail]

ye

[turbid gyro]

wait wait so i move the belts as well

[leaden drift]

i have it set to about to use around 115 a minute

instead of 125

[grave wedge]

Can you explain me more

[frail trail]

smth liek this

[spring orchid]

560

ferrium 1080

amethyst 240

[coarse scarab]

What's maximum wuling Bill gain and valley bill gain from just factory? Ping me please

[round barn]

that's why, I maxed out everything and am using more than I yield

[turbid gyro]

better?

[light ingot]

how many times can you converge multiple lines into 1 belt before it gets bottlenecked

[cedar turret]

Just from outposts?, I have the calc for v4, and wuling is easy to find since only 1 outpost exists as long as you have finished the early warning terminal

[coarse scarab]

Yea just from outposts

Yea no, i mean income of bills

Not recovery of them

I wanna see how is supply ratio between wuling and valley

[frail trail]

chat is this real?

[frail trail]

power your stash

[somber snow]

im poor

[cedar turret]

?

Total bill income is depends on many things

[unreal marsh]

set up base
become rich

[coarse scarab]

Man, people were talking about max and how you cannot earn more resources that recovery of bills

[cedar turret]

How many wuling deliveries do you do, how efficient are you at trading elastic goods

[coarse scarab]

Just factory

[cedar turret]

So outpost production

[coarse scarab]

Yea

[cedar turret]

Just add up the numbers

[paper magnet]

Yea but wuling plants already give 2 carbon from the get go so you can just skip 1 shredding step

[cedar turret]

For hourly production

[coarse scarab]

Ffs

[cedar turret]

You can't get more bills than your outposts recover

[coarse scarab]

You don't get it do you?

Can you get more production than bill recovery?

[leaden drift]

actually i am still a bit confused because 30/3 is 10 and 10/2 is 5 so if i have 2 going in and the 5 joins back in it should be 25?

[coarse scarab]

I Heard for valley you cant

Therefore recovery amount doesnt matter

[frail trail]

there isn't a ground yazhen/jincao powder right?

[cedar turret]

You can produce more products than recovery amount in v4

It just doesn't matter

[coarse scarab]

I Heard opposite

[cedar turret]

Since you are capped by recovery amount of outposts for stock bills

[paper magnet]

There is, you use those to make the healing items

[coarse scarab]

That's not possible to overcome recovery

[cedar turret]

In both regions

You can make more products, but you can't get more bills

[frail trail]

no like, the thing you get when you combine yazhen/jincao with sandleaf

does that exist

[paper magnet]

Not yet

[frail trail]

sad

[paper magnet]

Tbf wuling potions are fluid based

Not sure what grinding them with sandleaf then dissolving them would do

[fossil spoke]

HUH

[cedar turret]

V4 calcs
assume 8 batteries used per min
gives us 10 batteries + 18 meds = 28 products per min
28* selling cost (70)* 60 = 117,000 stock per hr
extra meds
24 per min x 10 cost x 60 for hrs = 14,400 per hr
Total gain = 134100 per hr

current outpost gen per hr
29148
38976
51408
Total = 119352

[paper magnet]

I just had a dumb idea

While idling to let bills recover

Do y'all swap for an operator to gain more bills

[unreal marsh]

what

[paper magnet]

Then when it's time to sell you swap for the operator to trade more bills

[unreal marsh]

there are operators that do both no?

[paper magnet]

Or am I misreading the text

Not for each and every outpost I think?

[cedar turret]

Good point

[paper magnet]

Unless I'm missing someone

[cedar turret]

Antal in 1st outpost is the only one that does both at the same time yeah

Otherwise you have to swap between gen and sellign

[unreal marsh]

2nd you need yvonne for 2x
3rd you need gill

[cedar turret]

I should do that for wuling

[paper magnet]

Of course it's the 2 ops I don't have

[cedar turret]

I have gil

[cedar turret]

What about wuling?

Or is that just lava

[unreal marsh]

wulf

[cedar turret]

Oh yeah

I forgot

[unreal marsh]

i think tangtang will have all 3 checks when she comes out

but for now wulf

[cedar turret]

Pointless

Cause you don't care about outpost prosperity long term

[frail trail]

you only need 2/3 at max prosperity

[unreal marsh]

for now ig since its capped

i wonder if it stacks

and we can upgrade to lev3 when the next update comes

[unreal laurel]

hows my ferrium split?

i think its right but not sure

bruuh

is literally everyone asleep or smth

[frail trail]

the 4th ferrium line should be running at 5/6

[unreal laurel]

it is

i think

[frail trail]

which is split into 2. and then 1 of them get split into 3 with 1 of those line being sent back to stash

[unreal laurel]

looks like a 6th being removed to me

[unreal laurel]

i mightve done a 9th....

gimme a sec

[frail trail]

yea that's 8/9

[unreal laurel]

just removed a belt on the initial split

should be 1/6th now

[royal eagle]

Why do you guys produce extra batteries

[bright zodiac]

this guy is typical denial

[frail trail]

wdym extra

[cunning hornet]

more is better

[unreal laurel]

might be a little optimistic here but this might be the smallest setup

whatd u think?

ill actually be surprised if someone figured out smaller

[royal eagle]

Like to sell or smt

[cunning hornet]

free stuff from unlimited resources

[frail trail]

i'm seeing a stash getting 2 different products at the same time and i'm sweating bricks rn

[royal eagle]

I mean why not more a capsules ?

[analog elbow]

at least it's not 3

[unreal laurel]

its just ferrium and the healing,itll be fine

[analog elbow]

[frail trail]

[unreal laurel]

atleast it isnt a sandleaf clog

[cunning hornet]

so i can power Wuling with HC batts

[unreal laurel]

trust

[frail trail]

18 hc/m 18 buck a/m is the most optimal for valley bills

[royal eagle]

You can transfer them continuously?

[unreal laurel]

look at that ferrium interval

[cunning hornet]

sadly no.. only manual now

[unreal laurel]

clogging will be close to impossible

[royal eagle]

Sadch

[analog elbow]

for maximum profits people will do anything ofc

[cunning hornet]

i mean you can use metadata transfer but everyone using it for ferrium

[analog elbow]

[royal eagle]

Who decides that

[frail trail]

imagine transferring 48000 hc battery at once

[frail trail]

hypergryph

[analog elbow]

[frail trail]

or actually, gryphline

[royal eagle]

They play endfield ?

[frail trail]

nah

[analog elbow]

nuh uh

[royal eagle]

Then ?

[dense wyvern]

This one is mathematically solvable.

[quiet hedge]

my mixups instead of 18 HC batteries

[frail trail]

[bright zodiac]

most dev dont, they only do balancing when developing

[bright zodiac]

definitely a goal to reach 80K to everything

[analog elbow]

You can't show this without the Ore usage

[bright zodiac]

its not about the stock bill, its about the flexing

[quiet hedge]

but my ore usage = yield

[analog elbow]

nuh uh

Show protocol

[unreal laurel]

uhhh

i broke smth

my originium usage is bugged

[royal eagle]

Im thinking about producing cans instead of batteries as they yield sam

[dense wyvern]

Batteries use less ferrium.

[frail trail]

they also use originium

[dense wyvern]

Yeah.

[frail trail]

more buck a just means you would be using less originium

[somber snow]

its not that they use less ferrium,
batteries use originium too,
if u just focus on bucks or citromes,
the originium will be left unused,
too unoptimised

but this is an endgame problem,
doesnt rly matter much

[dense wyvern]

I mean, if Buck A used less Ferrium then it'd be the optimal production.

[frail trail]

turn it into 560 oricrust, trust

[unreal laurel]

yall arent doing wuling correctly

this is how u power wuling

no lc needed

i call it making full use of your originium

[frail trail]

and they wonder why magic rock cancer is not cured

[somber snow]

i dont remember the recipe,
but its better to make batteries first, then bucks and citrome when you run out of originium,
optimal something, yeah

[frail trail]

some guy is burning it like it's leaded gasoline

[unreal laurel]

me?

i swear its optimal

[quiet hedge]

seems like I still got some extras

[dense wyvern]

At this point I already have more than enough to sell. Need new outpost to extort money....

[storm garnet]

halp, i wasn't even memeing this time

[frail trail]

69069 steel bottle, nice

[royal eagle]

I mean you can use unused originum for other products

[analog elbow]

Valid or no

[somber snow]

like what

[dense wyvern]

What other products is the question.

Without Ferrium you're stuck with LC batteries.

[quiet hedge]

I use steel bottle to carry xiranite fluid cuz more premium lol

[frail trail]

are you making 560 oricrust ?

[unreal laurel]

helo,can u rate my setup

[analog elbow]

can't. I'm on 0 sanity

[unreal laurel]

pls

you can trust me

[dense wyvern]

No.

[candid moth]

Endmin can turn into female

So ur tier list is trash

[analog elbow]

OH WAIT

[candid moth]

[royal eagle]

Lr up ⬆️

[frail trail]

whatever you do, do not do this list when rossi come out

[leaden drift]

found the issue i was syphoning jincao bottles before the packer

[royal eagle]

C and batteries

[analog elbow]

S

[somber snow]

males deserve love,
must not discriminate

[frail trail]