aic-factory

[atomic fiber]

tbh complete whole region blueprint usually for endgame like this one. https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966

for now maybe you can add HC battery blueprint and Buck A blueprint, basically 1 blueprint at a time

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469541236040925307

[frozen wren]

ty but this 1 is for vally 4 i want a wulling one

[atomic fiber]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1472656020005322852

try that

[frozen wren]

ty

[silver hearth]

That took a while

[dusky moth]

How do yall fill the middle of your factories? Whatever I do usually only does the edges

[atomic fiber]

my factory is kinda like this...

it's filled with buildings

and yes, i don't build that. copy paste it from blueprint

[long timber]

fill it with some planting/seed picking unit

[jovial breach]

has anyone noticed this visual bug?

[atomic fiber]

send them mail then

[frozen wren]

WAIT I ONLY CAN MAKE 2 FORGE OF SKYS???

[analog elbow]

yes

[jovial breach]

"hello i just found a bug, now gimme 10 pulls"

[atomic fiber]

let me guess... you construct lots of them

[frozen wren]

20

https://tenor.com/view/deadpool-gif-26545415

[dusky moth]

wait, you can take a screenshot like that? How?

[mint idol]

Bro’s greatest weakness….. reading

[real marsh]

lads

I got Gilberta

Had to do the pitty

[jovial breach]

Congrats

And rip

[real marsh]

is fine, im a f2p enjoyer, im just happy i got her tbf

Oh shit she is great for maufacuring

[violet dome]

i must admit, i don't right see the point of this fellow

[real marsh]

:)

[violet dome]

like,
he stores fluids
congratulations
but like- it doesn't allow you to make a different start point for fluids

so i'm just kind of wondering if this is for a function i'm not yet aware of

[real marsh]

maybe at some point we will have to deal with storing fluids but at the moment we dont have to think about it

[violet dome]

mm.. maybe
i'll just figure out a tidy Yahzen syringe setup in the meantime, think there's a lake near that waterfall i can route water from

[somber snow]

could make fluid tanks all over wuling,
so that u can grab xiranite liquid whenver u want

[violet dome]

still makes me eternally wonder why we can't bottle Liquid Xiranite from the spouts they gave us during the course of Ch. 2

[frozen wren]

bro u making me pull for her

is she good?

i have a physical team

[real marsh]

Wel she is a support that does great crowdcontrol

but i just want every character cuz im a greedy idiot

[mellow iris]

what can i build in my sub pack in wuling?

[frozen wren]

bruh as a f2p i dont think i can

[jovial breach]

Gilberta is great for arts team, not physical lol

[mellow iris]

chat give me some ideas please
🥹
👉 👈

or blueprints

[real marsh]

So far i've been able to

[mellow iris]

erm actuuaaaaaaaaly shes not great with last rite ahem

[frozen wren]

u got lav as well??

[real marsh]

yes

[frozen wren]

bro

[real marsh]

Got her from the current banner but Yes

[cosmic lava]

yazhen medicine C

[frozen wren]

ur luck is on the stars

[jovial breach]

Not true, actually true, but not completely true, she's not great, but she can work

[mellow iris]

seriously only that? 😭 what about all my ferrium

[real marsh]

Do both Yazhen and the other one so you dont use 2 crusible's

[mellow iris]

what can i use it for

[real marsh]

Brotha

in wulling you aint got nothing

that one line will be underproducing without meta transfer

[mellow iris]

devs give me more forges of the sky and more areas and sub pacs and mines in the future update and my soul is yours

[real marsh]

4re Amen brotha amen

[jovial breach]

You dont have enough ferrium for both, just do 1

[real marsh]

Its more funny to produce 3 of each :3

[cosmic lava]

what would you do with jincao medicine? you can't even sell it yet

[real marsh]

Great for your tank characters cuz %heal

and dw about it

you will get all your stockbills with the batteries alone

i should ramp up my buck [a] production in valley 4, but im smoothbrained and mental drained today so i aint doing factory stuff

[cosmic lava]

jincao drinks don't even heal % HP, are you mixing it up with fluffed jincao?

[real marsh]

Wait i tought Jancao did % heals mb

as stated above im smoothbrained

[mellow iris]

i just use buck a for that

i need some money

[cosmic lava]

if you need money (wuling stock bills at least), manufacture yazhen syringes

[mellow iris]

okay thanks

[digital mirage]

is 360/min max originium atm in wuling

[violet dome]

god, frickin-
why can't i just rotate your water intake point Mr. Sky Forge Sir

(i have the same setup on the other side)

[potent plume]

So true, same for the other machines that uses water

[mellow iris]

is this the layout for yazhen flower printer?

[violet dome]

ok for some machines it wouldn't really make sense (see: Reactor Crucible)

[potent plume]

Yea just set the output on the planter. also yea connect pipe

[violet dome]

for just about any common flower, really, just hook up a pipe* and you're golden

[gritty rover]

[violet dome]

the uncommon flower conundrum strikes again

[cosmic lava]

can't put them in a shredding unit either 😔

[nova lodge]

just plant regular jincao for 1-3 rare ver. :v

[jovial breach]

Thorny yazhen can support controlled unit

I might switch half of my jincao to that

Cuz now it's as good as fluffed jincao

[jovial breach]

Ideally you run 2 persons with fluffed jincao

2 with thorny yazhen

Mods wher

[forest robin]

hi there ! by design, does 1/sec unit craft blocked by conveyor ? bc conveyor can only 1 item every 2 second so if the unit whp produce 1 per second will be always blocked, is that true ? or maybe i missed smthg

[jovial breach]

You are correct, for easier calculation, 1 belt has a max speed of 30 units per minute (30/min), a machine making 1 item per second means 60/min so you need 2 belts @forest robin

[forest robin]

but the machine only have 1 output belt so i m screwed lol

[jovial breach]

What...

I cant think of anything with 1 output

[potent plume]

What machine you talking about?

[forest robin]

i forgot the name, the one doing origin powder

or carbon powder

[potent plume]

That is 1 per 2 second isn't it?

[forest robin]

lemme check again

[potent plume]

Also it should have 3 outputs?

Idk but it should be producing 1 per 2 second for sure

[jovial breach]

The only thing i can think of having 1 output is the pump

[forest robin]

the one taking ccarbon and crushing it into carbon powder. for 1 carbon it makes 2 powder every 2 seconds

[potent plume]

Yea that has 3 outputs

So use 2 conveyor

[forest robin]

omg i m so dumb

sorry i was def sure it had only one

[jovial breach]

[forest robin]

mmmm i think i need 2 loaders then...

or maybe a chest iirc it has 3 input

[jovial breach]

Do you need a blueprint

[potent plume]

No just plug both conveyor to the protocol storage

Don't use loaders they are scam

[forest robin]

yeah that what i was thinking about thx mate

[jovial breach]

Well it's better for you to figure it out but if you need blueprint i have a good one

[forest robin]

i said chest lol but yeah protocol storage was the nale

[jovial breach]

I assume you're making xiranite...

[forest robin]

thx but it s fun to try to build smthg. it s disaster so far but i ll clean everything one day, maybe lol

it s working but my prod isn't consistent i did the mistake to load 2 diff items in protocol storage and one ot item was full etc etc

[lone bluff]

LC battery production in newly unlocked Infra-Station are not showing up in the depot. What am I doing wrong or am I missing something?

[potent plume]

I mean... if you are trying to make xiranite, just connect the conveyor to the forge

[forest robin]

it s a mess. i have to remove everything and put everything but yes thx for the advice lol

[potent plume]

you might need higher depot level for lc battery

I'm not sure tho

[lone bluff]

There is a level lock on storing stuff? I didn't know that. So why does it let me manufacture them if I can't have them?
And what level do I have to be to have them?

[hexed raft]

guys how i make the valley 4 outpost produce money faster i got all amx level but im producing more battery and buck capsule than i can sell

[potent plume]

Wait, sry I don't think i quite understanded your question.

Like what do you mean by not showing up in your new infrastation depot

[lone bluff]

I open the Valley IV Depot menu. There are no LC batteries there, even though the PS is transferring them.

[potent plume]

So lc battery is in the storage, but doesn't show up in depot?

[lone bluff]

I assume that they are in storage since the PS is passing them through. And yes, they don't appear in the Depot.
Or is "storage" different than "depot"

[frozen wren]

guys

i didnt know that i can only place 2 forge of sky in the whole wuling

[potent plume]

You need the item to be in the actual v4 storage not in the protocol stash's storage

[frozen wren]

i thought it was 2 per each aic

what should i do

[potent plume]

Just use 2?

[frozen wren]

i used both for gearing part

[lone bluff]

They are passing through the PS, they aren't staying there.

Is the Valley IV depot not the same as "storage"?

[potent plume]

Also when you say depot, you mean depot unloader or the node?

[lone bluff]

When I'm standing in the AIC area and press "B", the "Valley IV Depot" screen appears.

[potent plume]

Sry I play my game in different language so its hard for me to understand what you are talking about... let me open my game real quick

[lone bluff]

I just placed a Depot Unloader. It shows LC Battery quantity as "0"

[potent plume]

Yea so you don't have in in your storage then

Maybe your battery is in your backpack?

[lone bluff]

no

[lone bluff]

I pulled 1 LC battery out of the PS and put it into the depot. It was there for a few seconds, then it disappeared

[potent plume]

Then your lc is getting used somewhere

[rancid talon]

I want to start working on factories but I have no idea 😕 what to do

[lone bluff]

I haven't constructed any facilities that use LC batteries

Is the game using them for supporting the new shelters?

automatically

[potent plume]

If your aic in shelter is using it, then yes but no it doesn't just steal your lc

[lone bluff]

As I stated, I haven't done anything manually that uses them

[potent plume]

Like if you see the lc in storage, then disappears automatically, one of your aic is unloading it to somewhere

Like that is the only possible way of that happening

[lone bluff]

That is the logical assumption, but how and where?

If I didn't initiate it?

[cosmic lava]

you have something somewhere unloading batteries from your depot, there's no other way that they would be removed from the depot automatically

[lone bluff]

Yes, that is what I just rsponded to. The question is still "How and where"?

[potent plume]

Idk, try check every aic's unloader?

[cosmic lava]

items can be unloaded from the depot from a protocol automation core or a depot unloader

each factory area has a protocol automation core and could have depot unloaders

check each of your factory areas

[lone bluff]

what is "protolcol automation core"?

[small totem]

This power usage.....

[cosmic lava]

the big thing that you can't delete from a factory area

[potent plume]

Or maybe your protocol might be setted so it sends lc to wuling?

[small totem]

It seems that i've too many turrents and ziplines on my Valley huh

[lone bluff]

I haven't been to wuling yet

[potent plume]

Yea then check every aic's unloader?

[lone bluff]

yeah...

[cosmic lava]

there are AICs in the hub, valley pass, originium science park, and the power plateau. you've checked all of them and you're certain there's no batteries being unloaded in any of them?

[lone bluff]

I checked Originium Science Part. Ported to hub, checking now. I'll do Valley Pass next. I haven't been to Power Plateau yet

[lone bluff]

@potent plume Mystery solved.
This is what I get for using blueprints without double-checking: I had set up a Thermal Bank quad in the Hub. I thought I imported one using SC batteries, but (KICK ME!) it is a LC battery configuration.

😬

@potent plume @cosmic lava Thank you for your assist, people!

[potent plume]

[crude estuary]

Wuling City - Power and Zipline setup.
I missed one spot in the zipline video demonstration, but it's there and showed on the map.

[potent plume]

ngl, they look so clean and messy at the same time

[crude estuary]

This map is huge and the city was very demanding to align everything, zooming in helps, but yeah, it can look overloaded in some areas.

[lone bluff]

There was a mission in Infra-Station to start production of tartpeppers. I completed the construction and the mission then didn't think about it further. That was a couple of weeks ago. Now that I am back in Infra-Station to develop it, I checked the seed-picker/planter. It is not doing anything. Looking at the planters, they don't show tartpepper plants in the list of available formulas.
So the ability to plant tartpeppers is temporary, only for that mission? Or what?

[potent plume]

yea, but still great work.
How long did it took you?

[tidal adder]

can you send a full map ss

[crude estuary]

Probably more than 10 hours, took me 2-3 hours today and 6-8h yesterday.

[crude estuary]

I wish, can't zoom out more than that (I think).

[potent plume]

tartpepper must be planted in eco-farm?

you shouldn't be able to put it in seed-picker nor planter

like that was never a thing

[crude estuary]

Idk if it helps but I merged the two.

[lone bluff]

If I recall, yes, after producing some tartpeppers, the mission is completed by placing the Tartpepper Plot in the Eco-farm

[potent plume]

yea you don't produce tart peppers, you either buy the seeds for it then use eco farm or collect it from the wild

[lone bluff]

THe mission gave a choice to buy the seeds, or produce them.

Maybe I didn't need to add the planters to the seed-picker

[tidal adder]

Thx I'm very bad managing those

[potent plume]

o wait nvm you can used seed picker but not use planter

[lone bluff]

roger that

[potent plume]

yea, u can produce seed in your aic, but you must make them grow in eco-farm

[lone bluff]

Been there, done that

another mystery solved

[violet dome]

well that's rather rude of Wuling
i know the gimmick's Xiranite, but 90u of Ferrium per tick's makin my Yahzen Syringe circuit look dicier than it already does
any advice?

[potent plume]

welp, you can meta transfer additional 25 ferrium/m and with that, you can make 5.75 syringe/m without manual transfer

manually trasnfering from v4 to wulling is only way you can significaantly increase the syringe production rate

[violet dome]

fair

i wonder if i can set up a small bottle production circuit back in V4, cause that could cut out 1/3rd of my Ferrium usage for the region

half, sorry

[potent plume]

as long as you are manually transfering them, then yes it should work.

[violet dome]

wait can you not meta transfer bottles?

[potent plume]

no you can

i thought that you are going to make bottle in v4then trasnfer it by yourself

also meta storage transfer do not consume items in storage so...

no need to make a production line in v4

[violet dome]

... right, forgot abt that

ykw, i can work that out the next time i hop on, i've been playing for a fair bit today

i'll live with the slightly reduced throughput lmao

[potent plume]

yea understandable

also i would ratter just trasnfer it in ferrium cuz it is much harder to balance the ratio if you trasnfer in bottle

actually, idk, i never tried trasnfering them in bottle so can't compare which one is harder than other

[violet dome]

that's what i was initially doing, but i'd be 5 off of balance without, considering that 30u per minute rate of the belt

[potent plume]

but you can only get 12.5 bottle/min using meta trasnfer

[violet dome]

awww, do they have an extra weight?

[potent plume]

yea

[violet dome]

dang

[potent plume]

raw cost wise, it is same cuz it takes 2 ferrium to make 1 bottle if i am right

[violet dome]

yea

well, guess i just gotta hope Wuling LV5 gives the Ferrium nodes a bit of love

though considering 3 are high purity already?
doubt it

[potent plume]

idk, there was like 6 nodes, and it produces 90 so 3 are high purity ig

and other 3 low purity

[violet dome]

y-
yea thats what i was talkin abt

i will say, 1 ferrium cluster fot the whole of Wuling is a touch rude, but- general rambling at that stage

[potent plume]

yea hopefully they add some more.

or maybe they are intentionally making the ferrium to be rare in wulling

[dusky moth]

https://media.duhon.dev/u/0THoyD.png

Finally made this huge steel refinery

takes a good 1/4 of the PAC

[potent plume]

I can't even comprehend a single bit of what is happening on the conveyor belts

[hidden temple]

did you deliberately place the facilities that far from each other for the sake of taking up that much space or

[violet dome]

reckon it's electric pylon shenanigans

[velvet hemlock]

Why does it take so much

[violet dome]

what i wanna know is this sandleaf loop, is there a particular as to why it's all longwise as opposed to the usual?

unless it's for the aesthetic
in which case go off king/queen/monarch

[nocturne copper]

how many wuling battery facilities can you sustain with current xiranite production?

[potent plume]

12

like 12/min is the max

[velvet hemlock]

2 battery producers

But you'll want to use one xiranite for components

And some occasional liquid xiranite

So thats one battery producer and best to do one syringe or drink producer

Though ferium is gonna be a little short

[potent plume]

you can just allocate few xiranite to be used for componenet whenever it is needed

[velvet hemlock]

Sure but you can dry the outpost good enough with one healing item and battery line

And right now you only need one bank too

[somber snow]

you dont need that much liquid xiranite,
just stockpile like 10k, then u wont need anymore

as for components, 10k comps should be fine, then reallocate ur xiranite to bats

[potent plume]

yea this is what i exactly did

[nocturne copper]

ALRIGHT WILL HAVE A LOOK AT IT, THANK YOU MUCH APPRECIATED!

oh sorry for the caps xD

[kind elbow]

this may sound crazy but you can increase more ferrium for your Jincao/Yahzen production by putting ferrium ores in backpack manually from valley to wulling

[velvet hemlock]

Yeah, dont feel like it

Meta transfer doing good enough for my needs

[kind elbow]

Yeah it passivley fills up missing yield.

I cant think of any way to actively increase wulling cash. Backpack transfer seems to work. I got nothing else to do in this game at the moment. 😄

[kind elbow]

you must be on "top view" mode while typing 😄

[marble stag]

does the factory work different when you are offline?

[somber snow]

no, why?

[potent plume]

I am pretty sure no

[marble stag]

i feel like my wuling factory is not producing as it should

[somber snow]

show your AIC report

[kind elbow]

check the yield/usage

[marble stag]

im gaining ferrium between log ins which should not be happening

[potent plume]

i mean ur current usage for ferrium is 114, and when using meta trasnfer your yield would be 115

[somber snow]

ur ferrium probably clogged,
u're using too much xiranite

[potent plume]

meaning that you gain 1 ferrium every min

[somber snow]

ur wuling bat and xira. comp uses xiranite too,
so when ur xiranite belt for ur yazhen syringe is lacking,
ur ferrium belt gets clogged, and ur ferrium start accumulating in the depot

[potent plume]

yea this should be the reason

no wait but syringe do not need xiranite

[velvet hemlock]

Xiranite yield seems fine

its just theorethical yield

so they probably making comps and bats

or smth

[potent plume]

the reason should be because the ferrium distribution on syringe is wrong and it only uses 114 instead of 115 every minute

which results in gain in ferrium every min

clogging shouldn't be the problem, atleast rn based on current AIC report

[marble stag]

this is fine right? this is the lowest it goes before going back to 100

i was just wondering if power acts different when offline

[kind elbow]

i dont think so

[potent plume]

no, power should act the same while offline.
I am pretty sure this is the reason why you gain ferrium

[kind elbow]

it should always be 100. Its okay to clog the power bank.

[marble stag]

for xiranite i have: 3/1 split between battery and components

but i can see im not able to keep up with the outpost demand

im losing a few 100 batteries every day

[kind elbow]

if you use xiranite somewhere else than battery then, expect some shortage in battery

[potent plume]

i mean you are producing components, so you should get less batteries

[marble stag]

yeah just checked with ss, i have lost 2100 over 4days and 10hours

[kind elbow]

i just use control post overnight so i dont wake up lacking

[marble stag]

so i guess i should be doing like 4/1 split between batteries and components

[potent plume]

I just turned off the components after getting like 10k of them

yea maybe try changing the ratio if you still want to produce components

[kind elbow]

its either you make more money, or more gear.

[earnest steeple]

You only need 3k components a week for artificing. That's around 0.33/min. If you want a bit more for gear, you can aim for 0.5/min. If you do 0.5/min components then you can do 11/min batteries.

[craggy whale]

@analog elbow

[ancient zinc]

[nocturne copper]

is there any way to increase the regional transfer?

[shrewd knoll]

manual labor

[ancient zinc]

Nah

[modest sigil]

I saw someone posting a design of the forge of the sky which automatically switched over to liquid xiranite if it detects poop in the input.
Anyone any got the bp

[ancient zinc]

Wait.

So u saw the post but didn’t ask for it?

[modest sigil]

its been a few days i think

i was on my phone and just lurking at that time

🙁

[potent plume]

EFO0152142o339u99eioe

not my bp so i don't know if it works

i never tried it either so don't ask me if it doesn't work

seems like bp code doesn't work, atleast in na/eu

[modest sigil]

yeah unlucky

Thanks tho

[mint idol]

I have never heard the term “poop detector” until now

[potent plume]

yea...

[modest sigil]

its black magic

[smoky eagle]

yo where's the value in separating unit?

like u put liquid in bottle then u separate it why

[potent plume]

it can be used to trasnfer liquid from far away without using teh pipe

or use liquid from different area

but idk, i never used it

[smoky eagle]

hmmm

[sonic plank]

how do i use xiranite relays?

[shrewd knoll]

its using the splitter converger behavior when they are placed next to each other so the poop gets priority and makes a gap in the belt line so the xiranite bottle goes through

[thorny galleon]

Xiranite Relays automatically connect to other Xiranite Relays and Pylons! So plop them down in range of each other and blam, power!

[potent plume]

just place it?

[shrewd knoll]

so this setup might stop working if they patch that behavior since its not really a intended behavior

[sonic plank]

what different from it and normal relays

[potent plume]

xiranite rlay is bluetooth

normal is wire

[sonic plank]

oh

[potent plume]

yea you don't need to connect the power manually

[thorny galleon]

Means that you can even bridge gaps with power, which can be occasionally useful

[smoky eagle]

Draining the green

This thing does not have Originium in its ingredients

Originium-based

where

[shrewd knoll]

the power source

[potent plume]

xiranite is lowkey just a co2 but solidified ig (+H)

[shrewd knoll]

everything is originium based since all your power derive from originium

[limpid shale]

All plant thrives with originium

And poop

[smoky eagle]

not even the forge of the sky is made of originium...

[limpid shale]

Lore wise our xiranite is new, that's why they are shock that we are able to make one using basic items

[smoky eagle]

ohh

[limpid shale]

May be the original xiranite is indeed based on originium

[smoky eagle]

maybe originium is made of stabilized carbon

🧠

maybe it's graphene irl

[potent plume]

since it uses 2 carbon and water, it should be C2H20, which is named ethenone apparently

[winged plover]

Anything else I should be making besides HC batteries and Buck Capsule (A) before unlocking wuling?

[crimson inlet]

imagine, item control has a delay timer instead of manually reseting

[steel shell]

poop?

[modest sigil]

poop

[steel shell]

[crimson inlet]

Holy, Automatic Fertilizer Setup (Auto-Muck), I want that

[winged plover]

Pet hippo needed for the helicopter tail

[crimson inlet]

Originium is coal + lithium + aluminum (w/ cancer)

[potent plume]

maybe + uranium

[smoky eagle]

radioactive

[uneven aspen]

is that possible? i move a forge from xiranite to make fertilizer then moved it back but it was clogged. Had to stash and respawn it back.

gonna assume the liquid xiranite gets pumped out

[potent plume]

yea that is the poop detector

[craggy whale]

BRO IF JUST ITEM CONTROL PART HAS TIMER ON IT SO IT ON OFF

AAAAAAAAA

[potent plume]

so true

[craggy whale]

In this case i fr need to use crafting item as timer...

[calm crow]

Splitter might >_>)

[sly field]

Forwarding my question from #help if allowed. Does the Wuling things recipe that says Ferrium Bottle really need specifically Ferium Bottle? Cannot be higher like Steel Bottle?

[potent plume]

yea you can still implement it using splitter & converger but it would be much mroe simpler if they add it

[potent plume]

yea it needs ferrium bottle

[sly field]

Thanks, but aww, I like steel bottle better tho...

[fallen gorge]

I would dedicate the second base in jinglu sky base for bottle & jincao/yazhen farm

[potent plume]

you don't even need the second base, there is more than enough space in the main aic

like if you upgradede it fully

[fallen gorge]

but, upgrading the base foremost makes things easier to deal with working with more space

Also, is one xiranite component farm enough or should I stick with double the farm like everything else

[calm crow]

Point given

Maybe a delayer or something

[marble yarrow]

you could save 10 power by just placing 1 gearing unit and giving it 2 belts each of xiranite and packed origocrust

[solemn atlas]

pretty sure u dont need 2 gearing unit atm

[calm crow]

What's the most effective turret for this place

[solemn atlas]

xyranite production is also tight atm

need to wait for them to finally release the third xyranite production limit

[strong knot]

best mid game battery and meds farm?

just expanded main AIC so looking for SC battery and medicines

[calm crow]

How far are you in Valley IV?

[strong knot]

lvl 7 development regional development

[calm crow]

Did you arrive at the science park?

[strong knot]

yeah i got the base at science park waiting for lvl34 to get the last base in valley iv before I go to wuling

[potent plume]

if you are looking for bp, trying looking at #1461542035617091681 or #1465229737642164386

[shrewd knoll]

didnt even know they block game progress on authority level because you get so much of it, by the time you complete main mission, you are way over it already

[calm crow]

I think you can fly into HC battery manufacturing

[strong knot]

i dont have the blue ones yet though, the materials for it cant mine it yet

[potent plume]

true

[shrewd knoll]

blue ones same as green ones except you swap the metal ore

[calm crow]

Oh right, Ferrium

Then SC batteries

[shrewd knoll]

and add 1 more of each material

[strong knot]

sc battery

the bigger one is sc right....

[manic pawn]

I need blueprints for components in asia server

[calm crow]

The Green is LC, Blue is SC, and Purple is HC

[potent plume]

xiranite comp?

[fallen gorge]

ty. I was thinking my xiranite consumption going down fast

[strong knot]

yeah i need the blue one

[manic pawn]

Amathyst, ferrium, cryston, xiranite

[ancient zinc]

[strong knot]

the blue one

[fallen gorge]

I think one belt of xiranite would do since two would be overkill

[potent plume]

why do you need all those 4 tho?

[calm crow]

My keyboard is being stupid, everytime I type LC as Green, its SC lmao

[manic pawn]

😶‍🌫️

[earnest steeple]

No one reads the numbers on the batteries.

[manic pawn]

Collection

[solemn atlas]

i currently make 2 batteryand gearing unit controlled by item port

[potent plume]

CBT3EF194ouuu0a3U134O7
CBT3EF2O9A77754e8EeIOo

you can try using theses two for xiranite comp ig, not my bp so i don't know if it works

this one usese both forge btw

[manic pawn]

Forge of the sky?

[solemn atlas]

item control port pretty much can control how much item per batch u make

[ember torrent]

Does this work for Cryston component or is there anyway i can improve it

[potent plume]

yea

[manic pawn]

Ok

[solemn atlas]

so if u leave it afk too long it just stop production on its own

[manic pawn]

Nope

[solemn atlas]

pretty good use atm i say

[solemn atlas]

it does though

[potent plume]

i mean... you don't need much cryston comp anyway, and it looks fine

[manic pawn]

Really? Mine never does unless I run out of resources

[shrewd knoll]

you need so little of it that any kind of optimized build is not worth it because you take it down soon after, so whatever you have producing it is fine

[fallen gorge]

I was scared of turning on my second battery setup since it'll eat all the xiranite mats

[ember torrent]

Aigh

[solemn atlas]

i set it like 1k per batch and it just stop going out of the belt after that @manic pawn

[ember torrent]

Im still kinda lazy to do Wuling atm lol

[solemn atlas]

and it clogged the machine with materials

and it just cant move anymore

lol

it is pretty handy for gearing unit

[ember torrent]

Hard pitied Laevatain that it burnt me out on the game

[solemn atlas]

that u dont need to keep producing it

[solemn atlas]

i do the 3 carbon set up per xyranite machine

so even with 2 battery production u still have surplus xyranite

[fallen gorge]

Three

[solemn atlas]

yeah 3 is the fastest atm per machine

[ember torrent]

Pretty sure it only stops after Three days of Inactivity

[fallen gorge]

I only have two carbon setup

[solemn atlas]

3 clogged your xyranite machine

but faster than 2

lol

i tried it already

3 is still better

[manic pawn]

Maybe

[ember torrent]

So i wasted an Hour for nothing

[solemn atlas]

@potent plume crystron? u just make it to be sold in depot transfer job

XD

no one wants it except depot transfer job

[ember torrent]

Oh yea i can just sell them

[solemn atlas]

i keep making crystron

for infinite depot sell

@manic pawn u in game atm?

[crimson inlet]

dang I really like D.I.G.E.'s new update

[shrewd knoll]

i just sell other stuff like buck C or citrome C

[crimson inlet]

you can export blueprints now

[shrewd knoll]

they just stock to 80k anyway

[marble yarrow]

what do you mean faster than 2?

[solemn atlas]

using 2 carbon to supply xyranite machine

vs 3

[shrewd knoll]

its the same

[solemn atlas]

i find 3 is just better

[ember torrent]

Is there a Blueprint builder online

[shrewd knoll]

you cannot break the 2s crafting speed

[solemn atlas]

@shrewd knoll yeah but 3 is still faster

not by much but it does faster

[marble yarrow]

im using 2 to produce 30/min of xiranite. so yours makes more than 30?

[shrewd knoll]

you can dump a stack of carbon in there and it will stay 48-50

because it cannot accept more

[fallen gorge]

to each their own I guess

[solemn atlas]

hmm

anyway does anyone really never use item control port

kinda neat when u want to simulate batch production like irl

lol

[crimson inlet]

only in bottles i guess

[fallen gorge]

I do like the idea of using the item control ports for the batteries

[shrewd knoll]

for 5-10% efficiency builds, control ports are great

[solemn atlas]

need to manual refresh

but it works for item that u dont need to keep producing

it just stop on its own after the limit

also item control port give kinda cool looking stuff to tamiya track

[dusky moth]

https://media.duhon.dev/u/KGlSSq.png

Holy shit guys this is my cryston component maker

its so beautiful I really don't wanna optimize

[fallen gorge]

I think that with xiranite being a heavy resource to produce most other items Vs why would I want to limit the process for batteries amongst others.

[nova pilot]

Sup guys! Is the blueprint sharing event ending soon? I was wondering if maybe I could still participate or I should just post it in #1461542035617091681 if not

[fallen gorge]

Brother...

[smoky eagle]

OMG what is this

[shrewd knoll]

this is mine lol

[smoky eagle]

woah

[calm crow]

Chubby Lunggggg

[dusky moth]

mine is bigger is this efficient tho?

[shrewd knoll]

the entire purpose is to not be efficient

[dusky moth]

elaborate

[shrewd knoll]

it does only use 15 ori/15 ame per minute

and you get a trickle of cryston cakes

[dusky moth]

but why not be efficient?

[shrewd knoll]

because you dont want a lot of them

[dusky moth]

cuz its just something you use every once in a bit

ah

ye

[shrewd knoll]

while having a net plus inventory

with the least amount of power consumption

[fallen gorge]

most people would look at the belts and think otherwise, if it works for you I ain't one to judge

[shrewd knoll]

the belt are necessary

its storage space

for the in between

since they use the same facilities

[dusky moth]

fair

I just did 1 of them and realized "shit it looks too good not to make it symmetrical

is it the entirety of Sub-PAC 3? Yeah

who cares tho

[potent plume]

I am pretty sure it is open till march? so i think you can post it on that event channel

[shrewd knoll]

the event kinda unhinged, i think most of them are just among us belt art

[analog elbow]

change it to Cryston Parts

[shrewd knoll]

you cant do it to cryston parts cuz

it only needs amethyst

but i do stock them too

for my zipline

empire

STEADILY GOING UP

[crimson inlet]

is YouTube down to you guys?

[shrewd knoll]

no but you get a hiccup if you have adblockers

[crimson inlet]

I'm using the app and I tried to use a website but its not showing anything

[shrewd knoll]

just refresh

[crimson inlet]

I'm not using any adblockers

[potent plume]

wait why is my youtube not working actually

[indigo obsidian]

can anyone help me place a zipline there...red is my current route blue is desired route

[potent plume]

wait what is youtube actually down?

[crimson inlet]

currently, fyp for both long form and shorts are down

I tried searching at it works

[shrewd knoll]

you mean on that elevated black tower thing?

[indigo obsidian]

exaclty yeah

it would save me 1 zipline

[shrewd knoll]

most of them, u can place a battery bank to get a boost and then jump and place a zipline on top

[lilac plank]

i thought i was the only one whose youtube was down

[indigo obsidian]

i tried but either i'm bad or idk

i think my route it's pretty slick so far

[shrewd knoll]

well, placing stuff on higher places has become harder since they patched out down attack when placing items

[indigo obsidian]

ping me if u make it please 🙂 and dm me ur friend uuid

my other runs for fun and share one is in the water u gotta parkour downstream

[indigo obsidian]

jump from here ish and parkour around for that

[marble yarrow]

thats a lot of ziplines

[crimson inlet]

Yep, fyp is down

yt's algorithm crashed

[shrewd knoll]

i dont think its doable anymore, ever since they patched the building while jump attacking

for that specific area

[willow tundra]

which spot?

[shrewd knoll]

one of the fortifications on the wuling wall

this one

[willow tundra]

these?

oh

[shrewd knoll]

not without just using exploits anyway

[willow tundra]

i think thats still doable, let me check

[indigo obsidian]

too slow man

u got it astraea?

[shrewd knoll]

no, because you cant build while jump attacking now

so that one is no longer viable without exploits

[indigo obsidian]

sad...it was suck a good spot since the angle of the wall blocks everything

[analog elbow]

no wonder i couldn't do it anymore

[frigid breach]

Anyone got the zipline routes for depot deliveries and mats

[willow tundra]

jump attack is patched but placing while jumping still possible, so the trick is seek higher air jump and longer air time

[crimson inlet]

We gotta have ledge grabbing at this point dawg 🥀

[frigid breach]

Have enemies edge guard you

[crimson inlet]

Have enemies edge guard you and push you down after you fall when you get hit

[willow tundra]

do this instead

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-steve-edge-guard-steve-in-smash-smash-bros-minecraft-gif-18676503

[indigo obsidian]

@willow tundra can u share a zipline i send u my uuid in dms if u want

[willow tundra]

i dont have that location and my zipline is maxed lol

use camera mode to wedge yourself up the stash then dash jump place

[indigo obsidian]

ty i guess i'll try 😉

if u make it still msg me so if i fail i'll have it if not it's fine eitherway setp is still nice rn

[crude nebula]

bruh how did people parkour above the map already

[shrewd knoll]

i think they still do the camera jump or the swap ult jump

to get to the really really high places

[crude nebula]

i think yesterday i seen a youtube shorts on how to multiple jump with gilberta and surtr

[willow tundra]

camera high jump and catapulting are patched but yes

ult switch still works just fine

[analog elbow]

Right on time

[crude nebula]

my ginseng after i left them for a week :

[glad needle]

i hope they will make automatic farm because i wont doing all that

[glad needle]

HUH

YOU CAN DO THIS?

IM LOGGING IN

[willow tundra]

doesnt help in the way you think it will as doing so there will be an air wall above u
but useful if close to a moderately high platform

[glad needle]

ah you mean there will be invinsible wall or something

like force you to get down

[willow tundra]

correct, jumping will bump into invisible ceiling

[hollow drum]

maybe i need to build Akekuri so i dont develop negative sanity.

[paper magnet]

Sanity squirrel

[hollow drum]

i need someone to do the math for me

well not do the math but confirm

xiranite gear is 10 dense origo and 10 xiranite, so thats 4 lines

i am only using 1 xiranite line, so thats 25% less efficiency

but why is my gear prod down to 3/min and not 4/min, thats like 50%

[glad needle]

i still cant get it, could you give me a vid how to do it ?

[glad needle]

it always 3/min

[hidden temple]

1 xiranite line is 1 every 2s
so you get 10 every 20s, which is 1 component
that's 3/min

[glad needle]

3.75 to be exact

[hollow drum]

1 component takes 10s to craft tho so doesnt that even out?

[hollow drum]

I see people saying the same and I'm just not sure why it's closer to 30-40% less efficiency

[glad needle]

the number doesnt show the decimal point

but its around 3-4 per min

[hollow drum]

hold on im tweaking

25% less should be 4.5/min no?

[glad needle]

no

[karmic sedge]

i honestly kind of hope they never make better conveyers because im scared of the amount of reorganization that i would need to do

[hollow drum]

is there something behind the math that im not considering bc the last i checked 25% of 6 is 1.5

not 1.75

( to clarify i am not doubting / trying to argue, i just want to understand more specifically about why its not that exactly)

[paper magnet]

Wake up it's time to make sandleaf ground belts

[karmic sedge]

[hollow drum]

hold or fold?

[potent plume]

max syringe is 6/m, however since there is only 115/min ferrium with meta trasnfer, it can only reach production speed of 5.75/m without manuall trasnfer from v4

[hollow drum]

but thats not what my question was lol

[potent plume]

oh my bad

[hollow drum]

at least read up abit, it wasnt a convo from 12 hours ago

[willow tundra]

wedge yourself in the center of stash using camera mode then jump

[hollow drum]

manual transfer of hc batteries just to get 6 gear / min seems kinda

[burnt river]

uh hello guys

i just started ake few days ago and i am currently in the stage where i have electric mining rigs

i am wondering what are the uses of origocrusts beside building new equipments

[hollow drum]

you'll unlock new uses for them as you progress

[potent plume]

it is 3/min cuz it takes double the time to fill in that 10 xirantie whcih is required to create the xiranite component. i am not sure where you get taht 25& less effeciency from

hopefully i got the context now.

[hollow drum]

but what i dont get is why that matters because one component takes 10s to produce, not 2s

that should be 5 xiranite loaded by that time?

[potent plume]

in order for the machine to be creating xiranite, it needs 10 siranite ready.

[hollow drum]

or am i just doing the math wrong

[potent plume]

wait actaully nvm

[hollow drum]

25% is from having one less xiranite line

there's 4 lines of input and i removed one

[hollow drum]

youre right the input is 10 + 10 into 1

[manic pawn]

Yep

[hollow drum]

by the time 1 xnite component is finished, theres only 5 xnite in the machine

so there's another 10 second of inactivity until the next 5 xnite is loaded

[potent plume]

yea so the time is doubled

[hollow drum]

if you assume it starts at 0+0

[potent plume]

compared to when there is two connected

so the produciton gets halved

[hollow drum]

its not halved either tho

pogrume said its like 3.75

which is like. 40%

[potent plume]

i am not sure where he got those number ngl

[hollow drum]

10 + 10 the first 10 second interval
dead interval (cuz 10 + 5)
10 + 10 in 3rd interval
dead interval
10 + 10 in 5th interval
dead interval (10+5)

its not exactly 3.75 / min but i dont think its exactly 3/min either

[potent plume]

like if you are inputing 60/min origo and 30/min xiranite, it should be producing 3/min

[hollow drum]

its like

[potent plume]

so when 2 is connected the machine would run total of 6 times within 1 min

hence it has 6/min produciton rate

however when the xiranite is cut in half

which is the current situation

[hollow drum]

its probably like

a small decimal above 3/min

[potent plume]

the machine's produciton interval is now doubled

[hollow drum]

which you can just ignore

but yea

its closer to 3/min if you use that logic

[atomic fiber]

[dusky moth]

https://media.duhon.dev/u/Ct9tEv.png

Anything I gotta know about wuling factories before going there?

[potent plume]

not it is flat 3/min no decimal

[atomic fiber]

no, i think

[hollow drum]

no cable mgmt needed for relays and pylons outside your base
theres fluid mode for some machines
forge is limited, do not mald because the game only gives you 2 for now

[shrewd knoll]

just dont casually put down your infrastructure until you unlock the new pylons

[hollow drum]

actually yea my own illustration is 3/min

[hollow drum]

3 dead intervals in a machine that runs, at max, 6 times per min

so tis 3

[potent plume]

yea exactly

[hollow drum]

the time that matters is getting enough input cuz its a 10+10 not any other ratio

[potent plume]

i still have no idea where the other one got 3.75/m tho

[hollow drum]

probably napkin math

[nova osprey]

probably took total item output * 3/4 items required lol

[storm junco]

I have a question,if you put 4 stabilised carbon into skyforge instead of two does it produces 2 xyranite per second?

[hollow drum]

but i dont blame them, this is basically also napkin math

[rocky ibex]

I forgot to transfer earlier so my yields were so scuffed

[hollow drum]

if that was the case the number should've been 4.5/min

which is what my initial number was

[nova osprey]

ah wait you're right

[hollow drum]

3.75 is like 40-45%

[nova osprey]

hmm

weird

[storm junco]

I mean minus the water... You only need 2 stabilised carbon

[shrewd knoll]

no because it crafts everything in 2 second intervals like everything else

[dusky moth]

I know I can transfer from my valley 4 depots, but is that gonna be explained to me?

[nova osprey]

that's why i don't do manual transfers.. you're gonna burn yourself out

[atomic fiber]

it will just clog. because it can only use so much stabilized carbon

[ornate frigate]

Good morning, y'all

[rocky ibex]

It takes like 15 min for the 48k bottles and parts

[shrewd knoll]

nah, its just a habit for some people to put relays as they travel, just do the story first before any factory

[nova osprey]

still, i don't like such a strict schedule, maybe it's bc i have adhd though

[hollow drum]

i dont even do manual trf i just metatransfer and forget abt it

[nova osprey]

same

[rocky ibex]

Its the autism that fuels me

[ornate frigate]

Manual transfer is crazy

[hollow drum]

im gonna go burn people in another game after burning people in this game

[nova osprey]

having both adhd and autism is an endless nightmare

[ornate frigate]

Anyway y'all

[rocky ibex]

Real

[ornate frigate]

Help me with calculus

[nova osprey]

that being said, i need to go make citrome A meds now, buck A capped

[ornate frigate]

What is this crowbar looking symbol

[hollow drum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mL6OqvHFis

[nova osprey]

integral

[ornate frigate]

[vestal tiger]

Where integral?

[silver hearth]

Its the opposite of differential

[vestal tiger]

I wanna see

[analog elbow]

Doing All Daily Deliveries
but every time i switch ziplines i must do 1 sip of my Beer

[ornate frigate]

What's the integral of sin(9x)sin(x)dx, man

[ornate frigate]

[vestal tiger]

Ah yes the despair

[rocky ibex]

Maybe im doing this wrong

[atomic fiber]

it is easier to import battery than Ferrium.
this can be done my letting your wuling medicine only use 90 Ferrium/min.
and you burn HC battery on wuling for your power, instead of burning LC wuling battery.

This way you only need to transfer once every 12 days or so

[rocky ibex]

Im using wuling batteries in v4

[ornate frigate]

Good job

[rocky ibex]

I mean

[analog elbow]

Is this rage bait or Chen IQ usage

[rocky ibex]

They're being produced in v4

[rocky ibex]

Im just an idiot

[atomic fiber]

that just brick
wuling battery have the most eff for outpost stock bill earning

[hollow drum]

go back to optimizing your factory gng

what is this alphabetical math

[ornate frigate]

Gang

My factory is already optimized

[hollow drum]

DO IT AGAIN

[rocky ibex]

[ornate frigate]

And I'm getting so concerned because I have a surplus of 20k HC and Buck A

[hollow drum]

me too

[ornate frigate]

And it's only gonna grow from there

[analog elbow]

wtf

[hollow drum]

why are you actually making HC batteries

[atomic fiber]

importing xiranite to valley is just not efficient at all 💀

[hollow drum]

[ornate frigate]

Wat

[hollow drum]

no Aster

HC batts in wl

[analog elbow]

His goals are beyond our Understanding.

[rocky ibex]

No thats v4

[hollow drum]

Xiranite batts in V4

somehow thats worse

[atomic fiber]

that is just not efficient at all

[hollow drum]

ok this is what i have to say

[atomic fiber]

that is just torture

[hollow drum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mL6OqvHFis

[rocky ibex]

Valley 4 exists to make ferrium bottles and parts

For wuling

[hollow drum]

thats not

i just

[atomic fiber]

you always want more battery for outpost not more medicine, because battery have more value efficiency for outpost

[hollow drum]

idk

[nova osprey]

idk if ive seen that many people advocating manual transfers for wuling here anymore

[calm crow]

750 bottles is not a friendly number though

[rocky ibex]

I manually do it

[atomic fiber]

he is doing the transfer for the worst efficiency i have seen like wtf

u might as well don't transfer at all

[nova osprey]

oh i see

[gloomy locust]

do u guys grow anything other than ginseng in the wuling crop land ?

[atomic fiber]

Jincao Infusion

[gloomy locust]

whats ur split on the 2 plants

50/50 ?

[glad needle]

how do you jump in camera mode

[atomic fiber]

no... i just stop after I have 100 of the gold rarity ginseng consumable

now I'm all in jincao

[gloomy locust]

i see

[nova osprey]

why don't people use more yazhen powder though? doesn't it theoretically heal more?

[atomic fiber]

because the instant heal despite it heal less it actually more practical in high level boss.

where boss can 3 tap u and u die. so that instant heal actually there more to keep u alive than to make u at full hp

this is especially true when u use low level support on team

which is what i do now. because I'm farming level for my low level char

and yes I'm also using art vial, in case they just die in 1 hit

[nova osprey]

aye fair enough

[atomic fiber]

I'm still very proud of my magic HC battery yield

Just need to remember to import dense orig powder once a day

[ornate frigate]

All that only to have a surplus 💔

[deep marlin]

hi…. i don’t understand this whole factory thing so i was importing blueprints and i created a battery insufficiency somehow…. does anyone know how to deal with this so i can start having things work again?

[potent plume]

try burning some originum?

[ornate frigate]

If you don't have batteries yet

Use some Originium to the Thermal Banks

[potent plume]

or you can pause other machines, and create a battery production line

[deep marlin]

i did have batteries and then i was trying to replace the old one with the more powerful one and it made the battery insufficient

[ornate frigate]

That's usually the problem accompanying blueprints

[deep marlin]

the stuff next to me is the smaller battery output but it won’t work

[ornate frigate]

You have to wait for some minutes until it stabilizes

[deep marlin]

ohhhhh

i didn’t realize it was based off time

[potent plume]

you need to supply the initial power tho

[deep marlin]

how do i do that

[potent plume]

so burn some originium

[ornate frigate]

The Thermal Bank doesn't seem to be supplied with batteries

[potent plume]

place several thermal banks

[deep marlin]

how do i burn orginium

[crimson inlet]

burn batteries or originium to thermal banks

[potent plume]

then place originiym in the thermal bank

[crimson inlet]

input originium to the thermal banks

[deep marlin]

okay okay

wait let me try i’ll brb

[shrewd knoll]

i think the problem is that there is a gear assembly between your production of what you think is batteries and thermal bank

[potent plume]

also when giving a screenshot, give the top view not side view

[crimson inlet]

hey John Enfield, can you bless me with luck for Essence farming

[wise orbit]

what

im asking a qns

ive put off the factory stuff to do the story 💀

[crimson inlet]

oh, I'm just doing current end-game farming

[wise orbit]

im not at wuling yet

[deep marlin]

okay thank you guys it worked

is there any blueprints you recommend that are simple and produce a lot

[ornate frigate]

There are quite a lot

[deep marlin]

i got the ones i’m talking about from endfieldtools

[ornate frigate]

...Since the optimal production rates are pretty much the same...

[potent plume]

tbh, i don't recommand using blueprint. (like spamming blueprint for everything)
but yea you can find some in that website or some in the #1461542035617091681 or #1465229737642164386

or there are some good stuffs in youtube

[shrewd knoll]

there usually isnt any super early game blueprints because everyone making their buck A or HC battery blueprint empire or among us art

[deep marlin]

okay i’ll try youtube then for most of the production

[young stag]

how much yazhen syringe should i make per min

[deep marlin]

thank you everyone

[young stag]

i think i’m burning too much ferrium

[potent plume]

5.75/m max with only meta storage transfer

4.5/m max without meta storage transfer

[marsh jolt]

Build yourself then 🫰

[somber bramble]

should i put all my thermal banks in one aic area to make a single power plant or split them up amongst other aic areas

[ornate frigate]

5.75/min max with Metatransfer

[crimson inlet]

My Picaso

[potent plume]

i keep the thermal bank in one sub aic so it is easier to be managed

[ornate frigate]

Aight time to

[somber bramble]

dose that run at full efficiency?

[ornate frigate]

All accounted for

[nova osprey]

production efficiency? yes. Space efficient? no

[ornate frigate]

Based on the output count

[crimson inlet]

Tips for factory:

• don't rely on blueprints, you're setting yourself up for a bad experience since you can't fix something if it goes wrong unless you know the basics.
• ask others.

[crimson inlet]

each setup runs at full efficiency

I have 3 in this one PAC

[potent plume]

this is the tip that everyone should know

[ornate frigate]

I literally didn't use any blueprints cause I don't understand them, anyway

[marsh jolt]

Or check someone who explains everything from the scratch.

[ornate frigate]

Only the artist understands their art

[somber bramble]

intresting, i always thought that each grinding unit needed thier own sand leaf shredders

[crimson inlet]

Just read and apply man, Factorio players explain more than first timers that are maining gachas

[nova osprey]

1 sand leaf shredder to 3 grinders, since sandleaf 1 sandleaf/2s to 3 powder/2s

[ornate frigate]

Wait, low-key quotable

Write that down

[crimson inlet]

example to his explanation through a setup:

[marsh jolt]

I watched a few videos of ConCon, he explained everything from the start and showed you how to build yourself. So all good.

[nova osprey]

i will say though, you get much more in depth knowledge if you experiment with machines yourself. whether or not you actually want to, depends per person ig

[crimson inlet]

that's better

[crimson inlet]

this is another great advice

[solemn atlas]

@manic pawn do u alrrady know how to use the item port?

to limit production

[manic pawn]

Yea

[ornate frigate]

Yes, Iuno

It's not that difficult

[solemn atlas]

easily missable

cus most facility doesnt need iy

[crimson inlet]

What compacting means:

• less space by using less conveyors, or;
• adding more space width than length wise, vice versa.

[manic pawn]

But I don't use'em

[somber bramble]

thanks, i wondered why other poeples buck capsule factories are more compact and mine streched across half the entire large aic area

[ornate frigate]

Making the factory as square as possible

[shrewd knoll]

square is just miniaturization

[solemn atlas]

yeah same i dont use it except for gearing unit

[shrewd knoll]

compact is making it as small as possible in one dimension

[solemn atlas]

cyz xyranite production isbsonlimited

atm

[manic pawn]

Yea

[solemn atlas]

if they have no limit

[crimson inlet]

they should really remove or make the facility text display smaller as a QoL

[solemn atlas]

i just take it off

lol

[crimson inlet]

square is the most modular shape

triangles too

[bright zodiac]

yea, sometimessss, ppl sacrifice compact for.... symmetric looks, and looks more neat

i prefer compact and neat and good looking as much as possible OwO

[shrewd knoll]

square cannot be modular in some cases because of the dimension of the building area

specific to this game only

[solemn atlas]

oh yeah also converger is so sad

[ornate frigate]

Mine is just

Random BS go

[solemn atlas]

only useful when u wanna connect with protocol stasg

[manic pawn]

Is there any way to use demask mod on Android?

[ornate frigate]

Iuno

[solemn atlas]

but then stasg has 3 line

[crimson inlet]

my plant farms are extra compact to my knowledge

[ornate frigate]

It's used to reduce usage from Depot

[solemn atlas]

?

converger is the one merging multiple lines into one bte

btw

[ornate frigate]

You see the 115/min Ferrium usage in Wuling?

Converger is used to bring down the usage from 30/min to 25/min

[crimson inlet]

you should point this out first before saying it, my man.

[potent plume]

converger and splitter*

[solemn atlas]

so need to use both?

to reduce usage?

[analog elbow]

yes

[manic pawn]

Splitter limits the output and converger increases it

[potent plume]

yea i was referencing to how it is used to set 115/min

[analog elbow]

it's pretty much the same method as Min maxxing battery usage anyway

everything is Splitter/Converger

[ornate frigate]

Yea

[solemn atlas]

@analog elbow thougg ngl the .ost interesting stuff to do with splitter and converger is basically making some sort of marble race in the game

[ornate frigate]

What now

[analog elbow]

Marble What

[nova osprey]

im guessing a triple split to 10/10/10, then double split on one of those 10 to 5/5, redirect one 5 to depot and the other 5 back into the resource feed. then again, not sure why you'd need to do that

[solemn atlas]

marble race

basically u make track and let it race

which product reach finish line faster

[analog elbow]

Yield 90 + Meta storage

You can't expect to have 120 usage with lower yield

[solemn atlas]

u can combine multiple products into single belt then use splitter to make some use shortcut and some others use the long route

0 sanity move

[analog elbow]

your factory won't be running smooth if it kept running out of resources

[ornate frigate]

[nova osprey]

even if you can't, it will still run at 96% efficiency regardless if your max actual usage is 115 or 120 though

[ornate frigate]

My Ferrium ran out in V4 and it continued on just fine

[nova osprey]

unless you got it wired up reallyyyy weird

[analog elbow]

You will still get belt gap if you kept running out of Ferrium

[ornate frigate]

Okay I admit

[slim moat]

what do people do with the last 20 orignium on valley 4

[marsh jolt]

Is there any way to make it faster?, this one only producing 1-2/min.

[potent plume]

yea this is the main reason

[analog elbow]

you either do that or just limit your usage

[ornate frigate]

It was truly a looksinside moment

Stockpile transfer instead of Metatransfer

[analog elbow]

Belt gap equals to? slower production

just like when i let my amethyst ran out

in V4

[potent plume]

i need my ferrium to stay above like 60k. yea

[ornate frigate]

You need to funnel 10 bottles and the powder to the Filling Unit every 10 seconds

[analog elbow]

i let the Amethyst stack up to 500 then restart my C production

it's smooth again

with stable yield/usage

[nova osprey]

isn't it fine to have slower production anyways

[ornate frigate]

8 Ferrium, 2 Sandleaf, and 2 Buck/Citrome output

[earnest steeple]

You need 2 steel inputs per bottle at least. So you'll need to double that line. That will get you to 3/min.

[solemn atlas]

ngl i still dk how to use splitter and converger properly lol

except splitter for battery

[analog elbow]

It is fine. but why have slower production when you can prevent that

[solemn atlas]

splitter for battery saves up spaces too

[analog elbow]

that's the point

[ornate frigate]

Iuno

Place converger first

Place splitter in front of converger

[marsh jolt]

Yeah! I tried that, so we can't really produce 6/min here!

[slim moat]

just run more in parallel, or increase the amount of inputs you're feeding the filling unit. you're at like 1/3 throughput

[nova osprey]

i suppose i just prefer lower battery usage

[crimson inlet]

ogricrust

[analog elbow]

making 115 isn't that hard with some Belt witchery

[ornate frigate]

Yeah lmao

[analog elbow]

i do min max my own usage

[ornate frigate]

[analog elbow]

I don't see any problem with usage rate

[nova osprey]

same same

[potent plume]

do you have no ziplines in wulling?

[analog elbow]

Max protocol Capacity

[earnest steeple]

You can. Everyone else told you what the full ratio is, as you also need to get a but more citrome powder to max out the grinder. And once you do that you need to double your bottle production. To hit 6/min.

[marsh jolt]

Hmm! Like I'm doing it with Buck Capsule [A], I got like 4-5 copy setup.

[analog elbow]

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