aic-factory

[craggy whale]

its better to do it from raw tho

saves ur time to count

[stark osprey]

I was trying to understand where the delay is coming from

[analog elbow]

I like it raw

[marble yarrow]

i got it from a random person lmaoo, but im in Asia if u want to add me

[analog elbow]

[craggy whale]

delay coming from because u send it to other side

so 0>2>4

[dusk raptor]

hmmmm, but i want all my setup to be tilable

[analog elbow]

From splitter itself

[craggy whale]

why 2 seconds? bcs belt moves to another belt cost u 2 seconds

so its basically same

splitter programmed like the train rails basically

[stark osprey]

I know but why. that was the question. The splitter has to check every output side and so the delay is created

[marble yarrow]

the delay is because of the branching paths. if you dont create new paths then its just another belt

[craggy whale]

wdym output side

[vale topaz]

if only sprinkler can have multiple output.... it is another 'forced' energy drain

[analog elbow]

I'm sure ZRoku's explanation is already good

[analog elbow]

^

[dusk raptor]

Oh wait no im dum acutaly yeah, doing it from raw material makes sense cause ill need sandleaf for anything that need steel anyway

[stark osprey]

it doesn't help me since I can't hear it to actually get a better idea of what's happening

[analog elbow]

[stark osprey]

that and I'm trying to not get angry at my little brother while trying to learn this stupid mechanic

[craggy whale]

i mean if ur a person who learns by experiencing it go for it

XD

[wet pagoda]

splitter increase time per output connected to it

[stark osprey]

I need to see for myself why it works like that to see how I need to change my design to make it fit

[craggy whale]

yea mathing is ez

but designing is problem

so when u know u can reach 48 sec for ur battery delivery

[analog elbow]

@marble yarrow Reed Rye location pls

[craggy whale]

but

the belt

AAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[stark osprey]

especially since I don't have much space to work with there at the sub aic

[marble yarrow]

buy it lmaooo

invest in seed

[analog elbow]

Where is this vendor

[craggy whale]

FARM MUSNT GROIW

[glad needle]

4181504051
add me pls

[craggy whale]

JUST PAT THE COW AS

[analog elbow]

Where can i invest

[marble yarrow]

science park. idk if wuling eco vendor had one

[analog elbow]

OMW

[dusk raptor]

wait so for a buck cap A, do I need 4 planter and 2 seed picking for buckflower and another 4 planter and 2 picking for sandleaf

and ill get spare sandleaf

[analog elbow]

You want your Sandleaf to clog or something

What do you need the extra sandleaf for

[marble yarrow]

added

[analog elbow]

Not adding me?

[marble yarrow]

send

[dusk raptor]

do i only need 1? but i need 2 sandleaf dust for steel and another 2 for buck right

[analog elbow]

4717934733

[dusk raptor]

so i need 2 sandleafe crushed for 6 cause 1 only gives 3

ya know what maybe its time to pull out a spreadsheet

[crisp idol]

yep 4 for steel 2 for buckflower
and then each buckflower fuels half efficiency

so 2 infinite sandleaf generators and 2 infinite buckflower generators

[dusk raptor]

but there would be excess sandleaf right

[analog elbow]

I have to go to foreign country for Reed rye now?

[crisp idol]

no excess

[wet pagoda]

you need to go to region 3 to get it

[analog elbow]

I'm already at Wuling

[wet pagoda]

region 3 is not even out

[crisp idol]

imagine region 3 is just ireland

[analog elbow]

HUH

Wait it's unreleased or something

[wet pagoda]

so if you want the seed its in the infra station

[analog elbow]

Yes the seed

And where

[wet pagoda]

to to the botanist

[analog elbow]

WHERE IS MY REED

[dusk raptor]

wait is it really better to do capsult A from raw material tho, is it even possible to fit it

[wet pagoda]

this dude

[analog elbow]

I don't see it

[wet pagoda]

funny you dont have it xD

[dusk raptor]

i like to make my production capped to the size of the amout of depo it use

[crisp idol]

in subpac or in main pac?

[analog elbow]

You better show me yours

[dusk raptor]

whats the difference

[wet pagoda]

wow, calm there where not this stage yet

[dusk raptor]

[analog elbow]

How dare you trick me. I'm bout to strike you with Thermal Banks

[dusk raptor]

so like 6 raw material would be limited to 18 width

[glad needle]

sry ive been looking at my power bank for 10 minutes, could you share the zipline ples

[analog elbow]

HOW

I don't have one

[crisp idol]

size; sub pac can fit anything that fits in 40x40 (- 9x9 for the core itself) while the main pac can fit everything else and much easier too

[analog elbow]

[dusk raptor]

oh right

[wet pagoda]

you got the eco farm in wuling?

[analog elbow]

Yes

I don't see him selling one either

[wet pagoda]

also got the plant in the wild ?

[analog elbow]

There's a reed location?

[crisp idol]

would you like a main pac BP that's 24x48 or do you wanna figure it out yourself first

[wet pagoda]

well it grow naturaly

[analog elbow]

Where is it O' Wise one

[dusk raptor]

yeah ill try and figure it out myself, tho, can i haave a look at how many of each machine ill have to fit

i don't wanna do the math myself lmao

[crisp idol]

no. im in my bed and i dont wanna get out just to give you the shopping list

you can make it in the same amount of time it'll take to boot up my pc and launch the game

[dusk raptor]

oh lol fair enough

[analog elbow]

Wut

Where's the tag

[glad needle]

you want that reed seed no?

[analog elbow]

The naturally grown one

[wet pagoda]

vendro dont ahve them

[glad needle]

hmm

[wet pagoda]

he need the wild one first

[analog elbow]

Where is that even

[glad needle]

oh i know where it was

[wet pagoda]

search the map

[analog elbow]

I know it's on top

Idk the clue

[analog elbow]

Show me the way Wise one

[glad needle]

i think

[wet pagoda]

wait you can make seed with the machine ? didnt even knew xD

[analog elbow]

Yes

You can convert any flower into seed

It's literally here lmao

[wet pagoda]

yeah prob here

[analog elbow]

Hiding on plain sight

[wet pagoda]

now you can get seed from vendor

[craggy whale]

awhow do u get this

[wet pagoda]

its like the new recipe on wuling, its locked until you find it xd

like how the t2 fertiliser is made, recipe is not shown until you get it

[young stag]

zipline towers

[crisp idol]

from memory though:
6 grinders
8 planters
4 seed pickers
12 refiners
12 shredders
2 moulders
1 filler
6 (or perhaps one more than that) electric pylons

[young stag]

connect node

and uh yea

[long timber]

we can trust these numbers right?

surely i wont have bottleneck production...

[wet pagoda]

well, if yout storage go full, you will

but with you ss, yeah you shouldn't

[analog elbow]

How many plots can we have at Eco Farm in V4

[stark osprey]

2nd picture how did you stop those 2 belts from connecting?

[wet pagoda]

idk, i planted in wuling

got like 16 plots i think, and i rememeber someone saying 20 is max, but idk

[analog elbow]

So same as Wuling?

Wuling max is 20

[wet pagoda]

well prob the same

[mortal hemlock]

can wuling factories be ablr to do xiranite farm whilst being able to farm for components as well? like im producing enough stuff for the outpost to not overcap

[analog elbow]

Imma try for science

[analog elbow]

Yes

You can

[mortal hemlock]

ok

[analog elbow]

Not at 100% efficiency on everything tho

[mortal hemlock]

ill optimize for that

[analog elbow]

Not possible because we only have 2 forge

[wet pagoda]

you can do:

1 heal prod + 1 batteries + 1/2 comp prod OR
1 heal prod + 2 batteries

you can make better ratio with splitter if you want

if you want to stock xinarite, maybe you could take half belt of the comp prod, since you not gonna need a lot

so you stock at 15/min

[marble yarrow]

just spawned in my world, from randoms

[analog elbow]

Okay V4 can only fit 16 planters

Rip my 4 plots

[wet pagoda]

xD

[marble yarrow]

which 2 belts

[crisp idol]

they'll get use next year in the new region

[stark osprey]

the ones between my cursor there

[ivory void]

why is this low? I checked every rig they activeee

[stark osprey]

nvm it doesn't show

[analog elbow]

Where is ur cursor

[marble yarrow]

lmao cursor gone

[stark osprey]

the belts from the convergers

[jovial breach]

So you just simply split between making parts and bottles

[simple fractal]

Are you exploration level 12?

[ivory void]

yes

[stark osprey]

the convergers automatically create belts on my side with the refining units

[marble yarrow]

it should happen

[stark osprey]

I thought it wasn't normal since they don't show up

[analog elbow]

Ofc it does

[simple fractal]

Re check everything, I had a couple of spots that were missing mining rigs, there’s also a hidden one behind a quest you have to use bomb for

[stark osprey]

I thought he blocked them off somehow

[analog elbow]

Convergers only go 1 way tho

[ivory void]

wolfgurd one?

oh wait that was for ferrium

[simple fractal]

Wulfguard was one but there’s another

[wet pagoda]

you got max for V4

[marble yarrow]

both blueprints make the production of moulding, fitting to 28.75 / 57.5 when they arrive in the final factory

[wet pagoda]

ori is 560
amethyst is 240
ferrium is 1080

[craggy whale]

how do u get there XD

[ivory void]

its not max right

it should be 560

[wet pagoda]

and you got it ....

[marble yarrow]

@glad needle

[marble yarrow]

random spawn lmao

[static shale]

[marble yarrow]

so i seized it

[glad needle]

HOW DID I DO THAT JUMP I CANT TAKE MY POWER BANK NOW

[simple fractal]

It’s here behind kohl plant in science park

Check if you have that one

[wet pagoda]

he got all the mine, hes at 560/min

[digital dew]

@spring orchid ok I set the seed bp up

[ivory void]

why isnt it goin 560 my issue

[dusk raptor]

wait but i thought i would need 10 moulder for max efficency

wait no

ehhh

im dumn

[wet pagoda]

you mean the 429/min?
its you base comsuption

[dusk raptor]

yeah 2 makes sense

[wet pagoda]

what you use with your machines

[marble yarrow]

dont forget the belts after the refining, since they are the ones distributing it correctly

[stark osprey]

I had to do this due to the space

[simple fractal]

Are you at Max depot capacity?

Are all of them at level 4?

[ivory void]

all 3 sub aic?

[simple fractal]

No local depot

[stark osprey]

I'm tired of this thing already

[wet pagoda]

he got 80k

[stark osprey]

I can't make the clogging happen in the splitter section

[simple fractal]

Actually you said your level 12 so you should have them maxed

[wet pagoda]

i think he talk about the current yield/usage

[digital dew]

Also expanded my area and added depot bus and did the other two blueprints

[simple fractal]

As long as your theoretical yield is at 560 then your maxed out

The yield and usage are what your using that’s all

[stark osprey]

@marble yarrow Can't I force the clogging to happen from the depots?

[ivory void]

so if i wann make yield and usage 560 i gotta cook a full efficient base?

[stark osprey]

I mean shut down the 2nd depot to empty the line and than turn it back on?

[wet pagoda]

yes

[simple fractal]

Yes

That’s why mine is at 518

I’m using more than you are currently

[marble yarrow]

how did the ferrium per minute appeared in the graphs?

[stark osprey]

IT WORKS

[stark osprey]

I GOT IT TO WORK AND I UNDERSTAND THIS THING NOW AS WELL

[wet pagoda]

now use regional transfert to get more ferrium, maxed transfert is 25/min

[stark osprey]

I stopped the 2nd ferrium depot and let the line run out and than turned it back on to get the clogging to happen finally

[marble yarrow]

also since u didnt re-distribute after the refining, your molding unit will drop to 27.5/min, while the parts average at 30/min. over time, the parts will clog in the filling unit due to mismatch in ratio.

then your drink production will be 5.5/min, instead of 5.75/min

[stark osprey]

I have it active already

[wet pagoda]

well, you good then

[analog elbow]

Good Job

[wet pagoda]

you can make 1 more batteries prob, or of half comp prod

[marble yarrow]

the redistribution will make the bottle go 28.75/min, which is the correct config

[stark osprey]

can I see those exact values in the graph?

[marble yarrow]

cant, actually. it just shows 5 and 6 sometimes

[wet pagoda]

what the point of nerfing the heal production ? since it gonna stabilise with ferrium, and technicaly you could transfert mass ferrium from region to regin so the prod work 100%

[stark osprey]

how do I determine the exact value than?

like 5.5 or 5.75 like you said

[ivory void]

alright got it, thanks for the clarification

[simple fractal]

Of course, the theoretical data is what matters, as long as that’s at max it means you have all spots connected

[marble yarrow]

the transfer could only provide 25/min. so its a total of 115/min. not 120/min.

its just an optional system if you dont want your ferrium ore storage to drop eventually to 0

[ivory void]

yes i spent sm time runnin around😭

[simple fractal]

It’s ok

[marble yarrow]

its hard actually, to get the exact one

in terms of graph behavior, this one is for my jincao drink

[stark osprey]

my graph now

I feel like it's the 5.5 one

[marble yarrow]

yeah, a constant alternating 5 and 6

is 5.5

[stark osprey]

it's better than nothing

at least I got this thing running finally

thanks a ton

Wanna know the funny thing now?

I still have space left over in the sub aic because of this

[ivory void]

do u have any suggestions for a maximum profit blueprint for meee

[young stag]

has anyone sold more than this? just wondering

[marble marsh]

Tool about a week but I now both factories maxed

[stark osprey]

noice

[stark osprey]

I wanna use this space to have a constant carbon production for planters for future projects now honestly

and to get a plant farm going also

[analog elbow]

Cool now make 1 HC battery

[marble yarrow]

wait why are u using 2 wuling if thats your only power usage

[stark osprey]

most of the space is used by my battery line at the moment

[analog elbow]

Teach him min max battery now

[stark osprey]

I forgot I can use only 1 for now

[simple fractal]

Yeah I recommend watching xslice he has very profitable base which I used https://youtu.be/D5fII9LWcBo?si=89K1Hq78Prxegj52

[stark osprey]

I slapped 2 just in case as I was building the zip line

[hollow drum]

how do people get below 1.5 wuling battery

i

[stark osprey]

I forgot about that

[simple fractal]

I’m making more money than I’m spending

[marble yarrow]

they'll figure it out soon. i feel it

[analog elbow]

Maybe no sprinklers + not enough Ziplines

I already hit protocol limit

[stark osprey]

1 battery won't be enough for me soon tho as now I need to make the 50% xiranite component line

[analog elbow]

[hollow drum]

i already vacated my entire AIC

[hollow drum]

no like

[smoky eagle]

how's this?

[stark osprey]

good

[hollow drum]

im at 1.8k usage, i want to get it below 1.6k

i think im at 1.8k?

[smoky eagle]

yay

[hollow drum]

idk i havent opened the game since this morning

[analog elbow]

Ah yes

[smoky eagle]

should be good now whew!!

[analog elbow]

2.13K ve 5.25K

[ivory void]

alright thanks

[analog elbow]

Reduce your thermal bank

Too much wasted battery

[hollow drum]

no keep the 5k

who knows you might need it. better safe than sorry

[analog elbow]

At least reduce 1 thermal

[dense wyvern]

I'm done with exploration.

[analog elbow]

Cool

What did you find

[dense wyvern]

Emptiness

[analog elbow]

[smoky eagle]

ohhh ok

[analog elbow]

Good

[smoky eagle]

lmao

[marble marsh]

For the next tier battery I need a yellow flower that I don't have access to yet I think

With no need to sell batteries anymore I can finally start using more in my thermal banks

[analog elbow]

Reed farm done

[analog elbow]

Rush to get Sandleaf

[marble marsh]

I would if I wasn't that dead focused on maxing the expansion upgrades

[visual oyster]

Still stuck on development lvl 8

[analog elbow]

[visual oyster]

[marble marsh]

I beat the triangle boss yesterday have to get higher rank to continue the story

[visual oyster]

No munz to upgrade

[analog elbow]

Just rush to unlock Depot Nodes on Power Plateau

[analog elbow]

[dense wyvern]

You're so close to having to revamp your whole factory.

[visual oyster]

Hit dem stamina stuffs, skill mats and exp ones, get you fast to 34 🤣

[marble marsh]

Going blind into this game is absolutely fun

[visual oyster]

Is hard 🥲

[dense wyvern]

Yeah it's fun.

[marble marsh]

I have a few side quests left open lol (only did like 3 since I started)

[visual oyster]

Struggling to make stuff to sell for munz because stuff dev locked, need to sell stuff for muns to upgrade out posts for better stuff to make but can't because I'm dev locked out of a few ore nodes

[visual oyster]

Side quests, don't give as much as you think 🤣

[marble marsh]

I still have a lot to do lol ADHD and autism be distracting me big time

[visual oyster]

I did exactly Dat, left mug side quest till I got stuck, did side quests, got stuck, I hit every lvl block they had

[visual oyster]

Imagine trying to set up a neat factory but someting keeps fuqing up, 🤣 spent days trying to fix but am still fixing

[analog elbow]

I mean i didn't even build any production until i hit Regional Lvl 11

[marble marsh]

When I try to do quests my ADHD takes over and ends me on the other side of the map and when I am near the factory my autism takes over and I spend a few hours redesigning my entire factory

[analog elbow]

I did take my time slowly

[visual oyster]

Don't even know how dats possible, you need to buy upgrades an unlock stuffs, or you did some wierd shit

[analog elbow]

I did that purely Saving up

Without selling stuffs

[visual oyster]

👀

[marble marsh]

My friends always said I should never play games like Factorio and satesfactory cuz I would enjoy it to much with how much time I've spend with the factory here I now get what they meant

[visual oyster]

You sweaty stonker 🤣

[analog elbow]

I mean i didn't even know i was supposed to build my factory to gain stock bills

[nova lodge]

another victim fell prey O.O

[fallen gorge]

factory minecraft enjoyer

[hollow drum]

time to go back to exposure therapy with gun/ball games

[marble marsh]

And my 2 of my favorite YouTubers also got sponsored by the game lol

[hollow drum]

144 hours of black ops 7

[marble marsh]

A few thousand hours of slime rancher

Don't question it

[manic breach]

guys my bus depots on wuling is shaped like a T do yall think its effective

[visual oyster]

Graveyard keeper anyone?

[manic breach]

it cuts right down the middle

[hollow drum]

nah it has to be either COD or EAFC. you need to be basic

[fallen gorge]

now what if factory started to use different types of energy like rf and eu 😆

[hollow drum]

mine is an L, it's probably fine

[marble yarrow]

weird ass delay

[hollow drum]

bus depots dont block pipes cuz theyre shorter than V4 depots

[inland knoll]

redoing all my infrastructure bc i realized stretching to 75-79 meters on relays is rly unneccessary and its sooo much prettier to have them be in like a 45-65 range

[visual oyster]

[inland knoll]

hours wasted...

[fallen gorge]

can't always make things cute

[marble marsh]

I made about 400 relays last Friday I have 30 left how did this happen

[visual oyster]

Me running around valley 4 trying to figure out why platou doesn't have a sub pac

[hollow drum]

wdym

plateau does tho

[dense wyvern]

My alternating line just messes up when I logout.

[visual oyster]

?

One of them don't tho

[hollow drum]

is bro a new starter endmin

[hollow drum]

how many areas have the name "plateau" in V4????

[visual oyster]

The one that doesn't hab any form of power

[dense wyvern]

Seems like it takes the x/m data instead of real production when you logout.

[hollow drum]

its literally only Power Plateau wdym

[marble marsh]

I started Feb 7 on my bday

[visual oyster]

I don't remember the name damut,

The other one

[hollow drum]

theres 8 areas you could be referring to

[visual oyster]

I said valley 4

[hollow drum]

please dont make it sound as if im making this hard for you cuz "other one" isnt specific enough

[hollow drum]

valley 4 is split into 7-8 areas

[visual oyster]

How?

[hollow drum]

WDYM HOWQ

[visual oyster]

I see 5

[hollow drum]

Hub - Refugee Camp - Quarry - Sci Park - Lodespring - Plateau

Ok its 6

which one are you referring to

[visual oyster]

Dat one the load spring

[hollow drum]

cuz theres no space for it

[inland knoll]

i think she might mean the quarry has no sub pac and that precedent is why she thought power plateau doesnt have one?

[hollow drum]

its Lodespring

i dont know how that become plateau but i digress

but yes Power Plateau has one. Core is in Hub, and the outposts are Refugee Camp, SciPark and Power Plateau

[visual oyster]

Played 3 weeks still don't know the names

[craggy whale]

yo how to count delivery with splitter again

[visual oyster]

[craggy whale]

my brain doesnt braining rn

XD

[hollow drum]

just half it

[visual oyster]

Or third it 🤣

[craggy whale]

oh yeah

fk

[inland knoll]

.5/s or 30/m for one belt, then divide by 2 or 3 each time you put a splitter

[craggy whale]

but cant u tell what the delivery time then

?

[hollow drum]

its 1 item per 2 seconds

[spring orchid]

@digital dew prep up a new thermal bank, start making sc valley batteries

[visual oyster]

Or 10 sec of is a big item

[craggy whale]

like this i try to directly count the belt delivery time on the top power bank

i kinda brainless now

[inland knoll]

for example 5 splitters = .9375/min because 30 /2 /2 /2 /2 /2 = .9375
you can make it a little easier by just using exponents in some cases like 30 / 2^5 = .9375

and if you need to find the time for one item to be delivered you take the product and divide 1 by that

so for 5 splitters that each split into 2, it'd be 1/.9375 = 1.0666... seconds to deliver one item

[visual oyster]

@hollow drum heyyy, does upgrading my outpost from 3 to 4 do I gets lots or a Lil bit of development points?

[hollow drum]

i think you get 2k or thereabouts from 3 to 4

[digital dew]

What

[visual oyster]

Yay

[digital dew]

I got this

[spring orchid]

heck yeaaaa

You're doing good ❤️

[analog elbow]

Or don't use 4 thermal banks

Good but just remove some

[hollow drum]

how much does a blue battery give again

is it 1200 or 800?

[visual oyster]

I think I jus got all the ore nodes in valley 4,not sure if there one in that command center in the top left corner of the science park dow

[craggy whale]

so in this case as my photo i try to count like 30/3/2^3 and it reach me to 48 which exactly my thermal bank does but theres belt 2 sec why so it should be 50 but when i try to record with my stopwatch it exactly 48

[spring orchid]

Just scale it for now, and make more power + buck B, once u reached a certain point you'll upgrade to Buck A and HC batteries

[visual oyster]

I fink it 800,purple is 1100

[somber snow]

purple gives 1100,
blue gives way less

[digital dew]

How do I make these parts I need them

[spring orchid]

also reduce the thermal banks

[craggy whale]

so i kinda dont understand lol

[digital dew]

Which ones

[inland knoll]

gimme a sec to figure out whats going on in your screenshot its kinda cluttered

[hollow drum]

shit i thought purple was 1200 LOL

[digital dew]

Which ones do I take out

[hollow drum]

blue is like 600s then

[spring orchid]

remove two thermal banks

this one

[spring orchid]

and move the output to your PAC

so you can get some blue battery

[somber snow]

less than that, its around 400 or something

[craggy whale]

im trying to configure my delivery time to thermal bank

[hollow drum]

wait is green battery legit 200?

200-300

holy cringe

[vestal tiger]

[craggy whale]

?

[craggy whale]

[vestal tiger]

Is hard to decipher but somethjng tells me it's not functioning and is not going to function as intended

[spring orchid]

blue is like 400ish I think

[visual oyster]

Gonna have to look at the crafting chain

[hollow drum]

i just put my thermal banks in a row attached to an unloader and call it a day

just be normal guys

[visual oyster]

I think I can gib you a plan jus donno if it'll fit 🤣

[vestal tiger]

I use linear stuff not nested binary spaghetti

[hollow drum]

you want to make like

enough to finish the checklist mission, but dont leave it overnight lol

also it says right here

you can pin recipes to your HUD

the white thing is from amethyst

[spring orchid]

mhm

[visual oyster]

What do I sell to get much out posts up fast

[spring orchid]

make an output going into your pac @digital dew

[visual oyster]

[spring orchid]

so you can get blue batteries that you can sell

[digital dew]

Ok

[inland knoll]

if im seeing this right
3x3x2x3=54 so thats the denominator of your flow rate
so youre getting 1/54th of the 30/minute from a normal speed belt which is .5555... per minute
and 1/0.5555.... is 1.8 which is how many minutes it would take to get one battery for that thermal bank at the top
1.8*60=108 seconds which is your duty cycle, -40 seconds per battery so 40 seconds of charging the reserve and 68 seconds of draining it

[digital dew]

Like this?

[spring orchid]

yep!

[craggy whale]

should be 2

its split to 2 sides

[spring orchid]

remove another thermal bank actually

ur using a bit toom uch

[inland knoll]

then you can just multiply the 40 and 68 by how much net positive and net negative you have when the bank is on/off respectively, and as long as the product of 40 is bigger than the product of 68 youre charging more than you drain

[inland knoll]

ok mb but do you get like the idea of how to calculate it

[craggy whale]

wait lemme digest that info first XD

[craggy whale]

what is the number 0.555?

[visual oyster]

Do I make everything?

[craggy whale]

the 30/minute delivery time ?

[ruby tide]

why this facility doesn pull water?

[inland knoll]

thats how many items you'll get per minute

its the 30 from a normal belt each minute divided by your splitters multiplied together

so 2 splitters with 2 outputs each would be 30/4=7.5 items per minute

[craggy whale]

and the formula?

3x3x2x3=54 so thats the denominator of your flow rate
so youre getting 1/54th of the 30/minute from a normal speed belt which is .5555... per minute
like this part

how do u comes up to 0.555

[jovial breach]

Is that a fluid supply unit

[ruby tide]

yes

[jovial breach]

💀

[hollow drum]

arent you supposed to use the pump

instead of the supply unit?

[craggy whale]

sorry bro my brain kinda not braining rn so i need detail info

[ruby tide]

eeeh

[hollow drum]

[ruby tide]

oops... they looked the same for me

[analog elbow]

That's the water dumper

[hollow drum]

good thing this game has text

[analog elbow]

[hollow drum]

[craggy whale]

which nobody reads

[ruby tide]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26024782

[jovial breach]

Even the pump has upward arrows in the icon

[hollow drum]

not surprised

[ruby tide]

pelica need to punish me fr

[hollow drum]

a crisis thats been there since GI

[jovial breach]

[hollow drum]

and bleeding into our beloved Endfield

[craggy whale]

since tcg exist

[hollow drum]

how tf this dude get past the ban thing

[craggy whale]

bcs

[jovial breach]

They are evolving

[hollow drum]

ok thats ironic, dont card games MAKE YOU READ?

moment

[craggy whale]

thats ironic

ygo player never reads

[hollow drum]

LFMAOSFAISFO

[ruby tide]

[inland knoll]

you divide the 30 by "Splitter Total"
and "Splitter Total" is each splitters denominator multiplied by each other

[hollow drum]

Endfield has plenty of text to read that isn't sheer vagueposting for the sake of aura

like certain games

[inland knoll]

the denominator of the splitter is just how many outputs it has or what fraction each output is equal to, 3 outputs would have each belt getting 1/3rd think of it that way

[hollow drum]

i wasnt referring to you fyi there was a spamposter that got nuked 2 seconds after i posted that

[spring orchid]

anw remove one more thermal bank, and ur set

[jovial breach]

Honestly that looks like 12-1

[spring orchid]

just gotta repeat the Buck B + SC Valley blueprint until you reached endgame

[inland knoll]

my bad im not a graphic designer i shouldve made the output numbers smaller

[ruby tide]

seems like it tbh
cant tell the difference between fluid dumping unit and fluid yoinking unit

[jovial breach]

Fluid yoinking unit...

[digital dew]

Okk

[hollow drum]

dont worry i cant tell the difference between and

[craggy whale]

ok gotchu

[hollow drum]

Chen is always for me

[craggy whale]

i think i understand a bit

[ruby tide]

[spring orchid]

once u need more help, and get sandleaf, feel free to ask about Buck A and HC Valley

for components uhhh

let me check

[hollow drum]

at least you dont call ground buckflower "gbp"

[ruby tide]

i have the same intelligence as chen

[craggy whale]

wait what is this 1 meant

[hollow drum]

theres someone far more stupid than Chen

[craggy whale]

me

[hollow drum]

ok i'll bite

i agree

[craggy whale]

i made power battery system but smh it works

without understanding how did it works

[spring orchid]

EFO01u1Ioa2oue0a0AoOU @digital dew

you can use this

[hollow drum]

you know what i call that

[craggy whale]

PROGRAMMER

[spring orchid]

anw gotta go, feel free to ask again later

[inland knoll]

the 8 would be the number you divide 30 by

[hollow drum]

remember a broken clock is right twice a day

[craggy whale]

so 30/8?

[main grove]

what i put here?

[craggy whale]

but how do u count it with the delay of the belt

[inland knoll]

what do you mean by delay of the belt

[craggy whale]

like each block of belt will increase ur delivery time by 2 seconds right

[inland knoll]

thats not relevant

if your belt is 50 units long then after the first 100 seconds it doesnt make a difference how long it is anymore

[craggy whale]

oh yea true

[spring orchid]

put the output into your PAC

[main grove]

Ooooh

So belt to middel

Middle

[static shale]

Done, my AIC

[ruby tide]

how to get this mining to work?

the xiranite doesnt fit

[hollow drum]

you get mines working the same way as you do on V4

wdym

[main grove]

like this or worng

[ruby tide]

oh.... no

[hollow drum]

did you expect anything else

you do the same thing just minus the cablework

[digital dew]

Okay I’ll put this in when I get home my phones almost dead

[ruby tide]

howwwwww

[spring orchid]

yep

Should be giving ur the components now

[hollow drum]

did you not build anything on Valley 4????

[ruby tide]

i upgraded all

[hollow drum]

then whats difficult about connecting relays and pylons

[stark osprey]

@marble yarrow sorry for the bother but I got a quick one I need to ask. Is it normal for the usage to dip to 111 with that splitter setup?

[hollow drum]

you can put a relay on the top of the hill from where the anchor is

[ruby tide]

thought it possible to use only the xirantle

[hollow drum]

just, walk

[stark osprey]

found the reason why nvm

sorry for the bother

[marble yarrow]

yes, because you didnt do the distribution i said for after the refinery. so your ferrium parts will clog

[ruby tide]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-crying-meme-polar-bear-gif-9361375910949120188

[marble yarrow]

that should dip until 110/min

[stark osprey]

it went to 109

[marble yarrow]

111-109 probs

[stark osprey]

I need to redo the setup for that then

[marble yarrow]

thats why this balancers are important

[stark osprey]

I can't really do those so I need to find a workaround

[jovial breach]

Holy what are those belts

[stark osprey]

the bs I had to pull off to fit this thing in

[marble yarrow]

i think if you use the other version, you can apply it there

[stark osprey]

I lost that pic

give me a sec

[marble yarrow]

because the belts after the refining units are all just ones

[stark osprey]

why the import bus?

[marble yarrow]

depot loader?

the 5/min of ore returns to the depot

[stark osprey]

the unloader*

ah

[main grove]

https://tenor.com/view/j2-jared-padalecki-supernatural-jensen-ackles-dean-gif-11983105

[stark osprey]

I need to restructure this entire thing if I go by that case

[nova cradle]

one wuling factory can handle 4 right?

[stark osprey]

I wish I wasn't forced to aby space rules here for this setup

[nova cradle]

i didnt notice i am at 6/6 now

[stark osprey]

I can't move the ferium depos much either because of the battery line

[marble yarrow]

give me another pic of this where i can see 4 of the refining units

it could fit i think

[jagged swallow]

Is wuling aic problematic?

[real marsh]

How

[jagged swallow]

Even at max?

[real marsh]

how are you using 8k energy

[nova cradle]

i dunno i built my factory like this and it's giving me 8k

[stark osprey]

generally not but when you have stupid ideas like me it is

[nova cradle]

that's why im asking

well it's 6.6k currently

[real marsh]

6.6k used?

[keen cloak]

Man i Just noticed they gave us so much space in wuling but not enough power to sustain the size...
There just isn't enough mines LOL stingy dev's.

[stark osprey]

I fit in a battery line on the 2nd space upgrade for the sub aic and now I'm trying to fit in a jincao drink line in the extra space

[keen cloak]

[static shale]

its fine??

[nova cradle]

i dont really know what you're asking me im also asking the question LOL

[real marsh]

Its fine, Squigily language tho

[nova cradle]

welp i guess ill just sleep and find out tomorrow

if this factory can handle 4

[marble yarrow]

gimme a moment, its doable

[stark osprey]

I hope we get some more ferium nodes with the Wuling expansion and maybe some amethyst

[nova cradle]

if not ill just remove one thermal bank

[stark osprey]

say what now?

[keen cloak]

Legit I ceased selling my batteries after it shut downed so many times LOL

I wont be selling until its FULL

[nova cradle]

real the batteries on wuling are finicky atm lol

[keen cloak]

there are batteries in wuling?

[nova cradle]

ah im not able to use my batteries rn on wuling cuz im using it all up 6/6

[keen cloak]

we can only produce around 2 and even then it would eat too much energy.

😂

[nova cradle]

is it eveen worth it to use all 6/6 hmm

[keen cloak]

no.

[stark osprey]

yeah

[keen cloak]

i'm using it rn...

its the only real way to get 1600 power.

i'm restricted.

[nova cradle]

yeah you may be right. theree isn't al ot of things to do with 6.6k output and 3 thermal seem to be enough lol

[keen cloak]

it ate all the originium mines.

[stark osprey]

those things are more than enough

[keen cloak]

just that alone.

[stark osprey]

for me at least for now

[keen cloak]

Eitherway I am just waiting for them to upgrade weeklies

why the heck is it only 2 pulls.

even annihilation was more generous than this.

[nova cradle]

seems like 4 thermals is 6/6

aight ill just use 2 thermals

[nova lodge]

1 thermals = 1.5, so yeah, 4 = 6

[nova cradle]

6.6k power output looks nice but there's nothing to do with it lol

[nova cradle]

what does 1.5 mean

[nova lodge]

1.5 battery per min per thermal bank.

[marble yarrow]

@stark osprey

[nova cradle]

ahh oki

[stark osprey]

let me finish this stage and I'm gonna try to remake that thing

[marble yarrow]

aight, i missed a splitter so i'll revise

[stark osprey]

good thing I was grinding for Yvonne than

[marble yarrow]

wait its a 1-square gap between 4th refiner and fitting

[stark osprey]

yeah

it doesn't affect anything tho

worry not

[marble yarrow]

you can fit a depot loader here on top i think

[stark osprey]

the space is there

I checked just now

[marble yarrow]

fated space

[stark osprey]

My stuff was so precise that it's not funny

It feels more like I made those mistakes on purpose for you to find them

This won't be on the exam harunachan

worry not

I'm just making fun of my design skills

[real marsh]

welp i have no clue how to mega base

[jovial breach]

Just copy from yt?

[real marsh]

Nah making one your self is more fun

[marble yarrow]

?

[real marsh]

But man my brain is smooth

[analog elbow]

INFINITE XIRANITE?!?!

[marble yarrow]

[marble yarrow]

particle accelerator

[real marsh]

aight time to test something out

[jovial breach]

Literally just 3 battery lines, 3 buck A lines, and maybe 4 citrome if you want

[real marsh]

I was told in this chat that Belt bridges effectively move stuf at 40/m

[jovial breach]

Wouldn't be surprised if that works

Cuz in mindustry it's also like that

The conjunction belts are like instant while normal belts have moving animation

[real marsh]

We testing shit out cuz its funny

[velvet hemlock]

Just do it

[stark osprey]

this should be it

[shadow lichen]

Is this how you do shock power generation?

[stark osprey]

@marble yarrow it works

the spacing is from the timings is showing up

I think I should've emptied the fitting units tho

[marble yarrow]

yeah you can

[analog elbow]

Yeah but at what power does it leave you at before the battery starts feeding

[craggy whale]

you should do this instead

[analog elbow]

Does it turn on at the same time?

[stark osprey]

yeah that uncloged it

[real marsh]

Alright lats the test setup is done no clue if this will actualy work XD

[stark osprey]

that fixed it

[shadow lichen]

As far as I tested, no

[shadow lichen]

I used the DIGE site to get this setup

[craggy whale]

@analog elbow do u have any idea so that i can make power blueprint from 1 unloader to any number of power bank that i can increased or decreased it any time :)

with certain offset

[analog elbow]

I mean that would require complex witchery unless you made one for each thermal so you can configure them more precisely

[spring orchid]

I mean that's just

The original PWM

The one who used binary code

[craggy whale]

but its only up to 3

thermal

[spring orchid]

Yeah but if ur asking immediate customization

[craggy whale]

as far as i see

[spring orchid]

That's the one who can do it

[craggy whale]

[static vector]

Should you swap production from amathyst meds/batteries over to the ferrium versions pre-wuling or do wuling based crafts have a high demand for ferrium/steel?

[velvet hemlock]

Bruuuuh

Wuling has its own resources

Though it does have a higher need for ferrium, but you just need level 12 for meta transfer

[uneven spire]

what products unlock after you level up wuling outpost for trade?

[marble yarrow]

this is lvl2 outpost

[uneven spire]

Wonderful, thank you, I'm making jincao drinks already and am almost level 2

I've basically cookie cuttered two or three different blueprints. I saw an overall one I liked but the xiranite was bad, so I found a better xiranite layout that fit and put that there, and now I'm positive in xiranite while making jincao, 3 batteries, and components

[icy meteor]

can someone suggest me a good endgame valley IV blueprint? So many blueprints on here and YT but many are at least 2 weeks old and are kinda inefficent

[analog elbow]

I think i need more Thermal Bank

[uneven spire]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/comments/1r1ywm0/the_best_valley_4_megabase_maximum_profit_lowest/ I use this one, and i'm maxed out on bills easily with plenty to spare

[hidden mural]

How do I increase power beyond 200?

[somber snow]

someone send me a picture of a wilung aic report that's fully optimised

[uneven spire]

But you need to be maxed on everything and at least valley 11, 12 if you want to send ferrium to wuling

sorry, maxed home base and one maxed pac

[icy meteor]

Looks like a pcb board indeed holy

[analog elbow]

500 Thermal Banks

[icy meteor]

I hope I won't spend my entire night trying to fit this in

[uneven spire]

Isn't it beautiful?

[uneven spire]

the blueprints copy easily

[hidden mural]

Hmm?

[uneven spire]

just gotta fill the seeds right

[hidden mural]

Can you elaborate?

[analog elbow]

Place thermal banks

[inland perch]

zero sannity behavior😭
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugYUNvPOUQY

[analog elbow]

And put originium

[hidden mural]

Oh, I see

Thanks

[analog elbow]

Holy Unemployed Behavior

[icy meteor]

hopefully

[craggy whale]

facility called power bank or thermal bank

fk i just called it power bank bcs it ez

why is it called thermal bank when it just banking electric power

[analog elbow]

Welp same thing

[craggy whale]

[analog elbow]

Both generates power

[craggy whale]

mifu generates me power

[analog elbow]

Eh nah

[craggy whale]

[analog elbow]

Power Bank stores power

Thermal Generates

[uneven spire]

Could it be better? Probably, but it works for me, and even if I get short ferrium a bit the bottles just slow down some, I'm feeding 1500 ferrium from Valley with metastasis

[analog elbow]

Both Power

[uneven spire]

Also the xiranite is misleading, its positive but slowly

[craggy whale]

thermal bank generates power?

wym

the power comes out from battery

[analog elbow]

Thermal delivers

[icy meteor]

Isn't there a youtube guide or something the more I stare at it the more confused I get lol

[analog elbow]

Today's elastic goods are so ass

[somber snow]

similar to mine, except i stopped making components

[uneven spire]

Nope, gotta figure it out like everyone else, factory can't be too easy now can it?

[uneven spire]

I'm keeping components going because of having to enhance gear and the copies we'll need down the road

[velvet hemlock]

I mean theorethical assumes you feed 2 xiranites to battery maker. or the comp maker?

Which you cant do if you're also using it elsewhere

[uneven spire]

One battery has only one compressed line into it, so it runs slower than the others, hence the xiranite positive

[icy meteor]

just got back from work man I don't want to spend the entire night on factory before I go to sleep 😭

haven't even eaten yet

[uneven spire]

Hey you can be suboptimal all you want, only a bit of judgement here

[cedar turret]

Kyostinv has a good V4 base

[analog elbow]

Just do it slowly. This game best enjoyed that way

[uneven spire]

Actually you got me looking, one battery has 3 compressed while one has only one

and I recently expanded the base

[analog elbow]

Even with 12H shifts it's still good and you'll be able to reach Wuling in no time

[uneven spire]

so I could move a grinder over to the second battery

and make it more optimized

[somber snow]

i want to spend more time optimising my factories, but im too tired nowadays
i need to install more thermal banks in me

[nova lodge]

coffee :3

[icy meteor]

I've already finished Wuling bro. Just optimizing the factories before I tackle endgame modes

[nova lodge]

[analog elbow]

Mine looks like this

[uneven spire]

Yep that'l do it

[analog elbow]

Try Artificing your entire gear first

[uneven spire]

Thats what imma do

[analog elbow]

[uneven spire]

move my xiranite makers away to make room for a second compressed line into the other battery maker

lets see how this looks in a biut

[icy meteor]

yeah that's also on the priority list. But factory first

[analog elbow]

And Farm

[icy meteor]

my factories look like Chinese sweatshop factories

[analog elbow]

Looks normal then

[real marsh]

Man how i wish electrical pylongs are 1x1 instead of 2x3

2x2(

[icy meteor]

I need to upgrade from manifacturing Sadida to Adidas

[nova lodge]

no pengmin is sacrificed in the making of this factory :3

[cedar turret]

Doesn't matter unless you Want smaller factory, you are resource input capped by sky forge and only 90 ferrium ore per min

[swift steppe]

I've been looking into artifice because I'm creeping towards the 42k-ish limit on Xiranite Components.

[analog elbow]

Bruh

[swift steppe]

1/2 speed line running soon after getting the rest of the bases setup

[cedar turret]

Mine is 1/3rd speed line

And I turn it off sometimes for more batteries

[scenic comet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468057352145080615
Output?
7.5/min Wuling Batteries (8.25/min optional blueprint, not worth the popups)
5.75/min Wuling Syringe
0.75/min Xiranite Components

Why is this optimal output?
Outpost stock generation caps at 16,770/hr stocks
1 artifice attempt is 20k stocks + 50 components, therefore we need less than 1 component per hour.

Math for how much our items are generating in stock value: (5.751660)+(7.52560) = 16,770/hr stock value (perfectly draining outpost)

[icy meteor]

thanks I'll take a look!

[velvet hemlock]

Dont need no yincao drank?

[scenic comet]

syringe and drink are the exact same value and blueprint and just use a diff yincao in the planter vs yazhen

that's iterally the only change

[nova lodge]

yanzhen is also compatible with lvl 1 outpost, so its generally used more often.

[uneven spire]

No what I had was 3 dense originium lines into one battery and only one in the second maker. It was a very compact design, but once I expanded all I did was move one over to the other battery maker, so now both have two dense orignium lines and a xiranite line to be a bit more optimal

[craggy whale]

dang

idc about efficiency

[velvet hemlock]

Cant you make both with a single crucible though?

[craggy whale]

if i have battery over i stop my production and focus component

[velvet hemlock]

Though idk if current ferrium can support 2 healing item printers

[craggy whale]

not even 1

with current ferium yield you can only up to 5 per min

[cedar turret]

I stash all my xiranite so I can choose whether to split it between battery setup or component

[craggy whale]

since u have metastorage which gets you 1k ferrium each hr

[velvet hemlock]

Metatransfer include?

[craggy whale]

ye

[velvet hemlock]

No thats 2.5k I think

[cedar turret]

1.5k which is 25 per min

[manic breach]

is this as good as factory gets in wuling?

[velvet hemlock]

oh

[sly dawn]

if you pull an operator you get them maxed out?

[velvet hemlock]

So yeah, 25 a min isnt a lot

[sly dawn]

oops

[craggy whale]

you cant even afford 6

[cedar turret]

Slightly under 1 line

[craggy whale]

and u want afford 25?

wth

[cedar turret]

I'm talking about ferrium ore

[velvet hemlock]

Yeah, I got a single syringe, a single battery and a single component printer

[cedar turret]

1.5k ore per HR is 25 ore per min

[craggy whale]

oh

for syringe it self is max at 5 per min

[uneven spire]

summa bish, I did all that factory work for the same thing

[craggy whale]

im

[velvet hemlock]

XD

[craggy whale]

still figuring out this whole pwm

[cedar turret]

Fluctuates between 4 and 6

[craggy whale]

for 6 differents bank

[velvet hemlock]

Wuling is so simple people will eventually reach the same results

[craggy whale]

i saw somebody constantly 5

and never stop

going down or up

[uneven spire]

Before

[cedar turret]

Yeah that's the fluctuation

[uneven spire]

after

[velvet hemlock]

Why figure out a pwm if you can just have one belt into thermal and converge 3 into the pac?

[uneven spire]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-the-same-picture-the-office-pam-the-office-us-gif-20757621

[cedar turret]

Yep

[craggy whale]

bcs i need it for 1 load to 6 different banks

[cedar harbor]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Endfield/s/ywyGxqNPLB

guys, is this good?

[craggy whale]

[velvet hemlock]

Im fine with one bank running all the time

Dont need more power

[craggy whale]

im just turn it off and on together

[cedar turret]

Wuling is hard resource capped at 2 xiranite lines and 3 ferrium lines + metastorage transfer (25 per min)

[rocky ibex]

[craggy whale]

oh u have reserve xeranite

why dont u make component instead

[rocky ibex]

I mean how many components do I really need, I have 10k sitting around

[craggy whale]

indefinitely

since u gambling

it

[somber snow]

u can wait for the update to drop,
have more ores to mine,
then u dont have to worry about material depletion

[covert gorge]

How can I setup my factories in Valley to allow for Xiranite production?

[rocky ibex]

Yeah but its like

The stock bills are the bottleneck

[rocky ibex]

You don't

[covert gorge]

It's only in Wuling?

Damn

[somber snow]

i carry xiranites in my backpack,
then bring it to the gearing unit in valley IV to make xiranite components

[analog elbow]

Can finally beat this boss 🫠

[wicked yew]

how is this steep 😭

[covert gorge]

What is the gain on that setup?

[marble yarrow]

its just my extra storage

[analog elbow]

Bad sprinkler setup

[wicked yew]

how so

[marble yarrow]

aight looks better

[cedar turret]

Psycho behaviour

[marble yarrow]

time to race for 15k proto stash Xiranite component

[fossil spoke]

uhhhh

did u gonna put it in manually

or

since I dont saw any belt there

[marble yarrow]

i did belt it when im storing

now each is full

300 each stash x 50 x 2

[fossil spoke]

holy

[analog elbow]

Time to sleep. It was easier than expected

[marble yarrow]

so i have like, 50k battery and 49k xiranite

[rocky ibex]

Its like 4 or 5 min to transfer 48k manually

[minor sand]

Btw is there a reason why most blueprints don't do a 80x80 for wuling?

[marble yarrow]

but i need to stop so component catches up

[analog elbow]

Fill the pool

With Xiranite

[marble yarrow]

also these 2

[analog elbow]

Yazhen or Jincao

[marble yarrow]

💀

[analog elbow]

0 sanity

[rocky ibex]

[analog elbow]

Imma sleep and my Reed will be ready for Harvest tomorrow

[marble yarrow]

good thing i didnt let my ferrium ore drop to 0 back then

[dusk raptor]

I can't even save this in a blueprint

[analog elbow]

what the frick is that

[uneven spire]

To be honest I feel the best item between syringes and drinks is the one you want to use tactically as well so you have a stockpile. I prefer the big heal of drinks so I use that, but syringe is also viable. Pick the one you want to use on your team and build that

[dusk raptor]

Buck Capsult A

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