aic-factory

[spring orchid]

👍

[stray jasper]

Say what now- thats how much time it sleeps before charging it back?-

Daum

[craggy whale]

i have 2 power bank that 2/min for wuling u want it? its simple enuff

[craggy whale]

ye

[marble yarrow]

aight, its time to resurrect the component production

[stray jasper]

Wha- i didnt know that

[spring orchid]

It's quite simple

One goes in

[craggy whale]

@topaz wyvern if u want u can copy this

[spring orchid]

Two or three goes out

It means the rate

[craggy whale]

[spring orchid]

Is 1/2 or 1/3

Convergers meanwhile

Reduce time delay

Since it adds

Or multiply

Instead of divide

[stray jasper]

Is this from the yt video you shared or someone else taught you tis xd

[spring orchid]

No it's just basic math logic

[stray jasper]

O

[craggy whale]

wym by convergers reduce time delay? isnt it just same as normal conveyers belt basically

[spring orchid]

Three input one output

For example

You wanted the thermal bank to have a delay of say 10s

[craggy whale]

so u mean u want to split it into 3 and make it same again i mean ye

[spring orchid]

Before receiving

Ye

[stray jasper]

Where i can find

Wyat

[spring orchid]

No it's just

[craggy whale]

i think it depends how ur blueprint will be still. \

[stray jasper]

Maybe the yt video can explain it better xd

[spring orchid]

Basic maths

[spring orchid]

Deffo

[whole finch]

Does getting limited characters unlock new factory units

[spring orchid]

Watch the yt video

It helps

[stray jasper]

Hope it explains everything

[spring orchid]

I didn't even know we can use binary systrm

Until I realizr

Converger and splitters

IS binary system

Or tertiary system too

Since it can be used for a base 3 instead of 2

[floral vector]

what

[stray jasper]

Remind me...whats a binary system? I thimk ive learned this before. Just forgot lol

[spring orchid]

You know decimals right

[floral vector]

number system only consisting of 0 and 1

[spring orchid]

Number systems

[stray jasper]

Ye

[stray jasper]

Oyea

[floral vector]

only has 2 numbers so its binary ( base-2)

[spring orchid]

Number systems have something that is called a "base"

[floral vector]

we use decimal which is base-10

[spring orchid]

^

So after number 10

[floral vector]

americans hate this simple trick

[spring orchid]

We add

A single digit

In front

So 0-9 is ten numbers

To denote the 11th number

We start by adding a digit

And start from 0

That's why it's base 10

[floral vector]

do you know you can count to 31 with your fingers on single hand with binary

[spring orchid]

So 0-9 is a single digit

10 is a double digit

100 is a triple digit

[stray jasper]

My teacher told me that

Lol

[spring orchid]

Because it's base 10

You basically add a digit

Once it's reaches a certain power of ten

[floral vector]

i mean you can count to 99999 with decimal if we use that logic but thats not realisticly possible like binary

[spring orchid]

^

[stray jasper]

Yo how is this related to factory xd

[spring orchid]

Bases have "power" to them

Which is basically

[spring orchid]

DWMs

It is related to dwms

[stray jasper]

Oh- just that

[spring orchid]

Since it's a field of pure math

Mhm

[stray jasper]

👌 great

[spring orchid]

And splitters and convergers

Those two

[floral vector]

math and factory go hand in hand

[stray jasper]

Ill continue with the yt video

[spring orchid]

Splitters and convergers

Uses math

Input -> Output

Time

[floral vector]

either ways im not using convergers

[spring orchid]

Whole factory uses math actually

[floral vector]

sounds like a pain

[spring orchid]

I used it

To adjust my production of battery to 11/min

[floral vector]

more is better

[spring orchid]

Not in my case

Battery uses more originium

Than components

And I still need components to artifice

So I reduced battery production for 0,5 component and some originium for excess power

[floral vector]

HC?

[spring orchid]

No HC

1.9k power

Pure wuling and originium

This is with zipline and sprinklers

[floral vector]

havent made wuling battery yet

[spring orchid]

U might need to use convergers

If u invest in sprinklers

[marble yarrow]

convergers do magic

[spring orchid]

Ziplines is not needed

I mean

U can reach 1.6k

If u fully optimize wuling factory

[floral vector]

doesnt it slow it down

[spring orchid]

Which is enough for zipline

Not enough for sprinklers

I want both

So I customize my factory to manage both

And I still need components for artificing so win/win

[dusky moth]

Are there more sub-pac as I progress the story or is it just the refugee camp?

I sorta need to start mining at the quarry

but no energy

[spring orchid]

Three subpacs in valley IV

[marble yarrow]

i love converger sorcery

[dusky moth]

so refugee camp, I assume quarry and arts park?

[spring orchid]

Convergers is so fun

[spring orchid]

Refugee, Park

One more is spoilers

So gotta progress the story

[dusky moth]

so uh, for quarry mining do I have to take relays to there?

[spring orchid]

Yes

[dusky moth]

[spring orchid]

You will be doing a lot of inter-region relays

[dusky moth]

ok thanks

[spring orchid]

It'll be normal, dw XD

[dusky moth]

yeee its just that refugee had a sub pac so I assumed every region would have one

[spring orchid]

Not every region

Every region have ores tho

So start placing relays (exploration)

[craggy whale]

@stray jasper

just a video where i record the loops of the power number after going 67% it will be 100% again

[dusky moth]

tbh quite ingenious to make me explore by placing relays manually. Would NOT have found some spots if not for it

[spring orchid]

HG did not dissapoint

[craggy whale]

btw be mind bcs my power is 5k usage and max output is 5.7k for the recharger if u have more than 5k power usage beware that splitter on bank charger needs to get reduced

[spring orchid]

I was having low expectation for endfield

Didn't expect to stay XD

[spring orchid]

More splitter = less power
More converger = more power

If the converger leads to the thermal bank

[craggy whale]

cant use converger

bcs i split 1 source into 6

into 3

and those 3 into 2 each

in my blueprint its not possible

[spring orchid]

If u just 1/6 everything

U don't need converger yeah

[craggy whale]

yea

im 1/6 everythings so

[spring orchid]

[craggy whale]

its more easy to calculate

[spring orchid]

I 1/6 my wuling battery production

[stray jasper]

ToT w*f that 60% is scary

[spring orchid]

It is much simpler yeah

[dusky moth]

so uh, I assume this is problematic cuz its not being fed when needed?

[spring orchid]

No thoughts

Head empty

[spring orchid]

It's DWM

[craggy whale]

depends how far r u to 5.7k

[dusky moth]

dwm?

[spring orchid]

It's

Not smth u need to be worried about

Until lategame

But it's basically power management through time series gates

It's used to make batteries as efficient as possible

[stray jasper]

I didnt expect itd go down to that number so soon. And to add, batteries take too long to farm so i gotta supply as many as you did in that video to get that working ToT

[spring orchid]

For early game your battery capacity is small so it doesn't matter a lot

Late game though each batrery makes like 800 - 1,6k so it makes sense to optimize it

[craggy whale]

i remember some sensor system like that

so i put it in use lol

[dusky moth]

yeah but u can fix it with a simple cache to keep feeding constant while storing any excess in it no? So at the end, the splitters would feed 2-4 "chests" (idk the actual name of item storages), and then those feed the power generators

[spring orchid]

Mhm

The chests is basically

The dead ends

Splitters is just a way to divide the output

This can work because we have emergency power in PAC

[dusky moth]

yeah but the issue with it rn is that the output drops whenever the splitters are splitting, so you could instead have the cache so that gets fed intermittently while still feeding the generators constantly

[spring orchid]

The output drop is kind of the whole purpose tho

[dusky moth]

wait fr?

What does it do

[spring orchid]

Mhm

So for example

[craggy whale]

less usage on battery

[spring orchid]

You use 2k power

[stray jasper]

Btw can this be used on other purposes like refinement, shredder etc?

[spring orchid]

But your battery usage is 2.8k

[spring orchid]

That's the beauty of it

It's basically math

[stray jasper]

So it can

[spring orchid]

It's what I did to achieve 11 batteries/min

[stray jasper]

Buh

[dusky moth]

ok and then what

your usage is higher than your usual usage

[spring orchid]

Anw, you see how we use 800 powers right?

We can instead just

Feed the thermal bank

Intermittently

So if one battery say provides 1.4k power

You can just have one that is ALWAYS into thermal bank

And one that feeds the thermal bank every 80 second

Instead of 40 seconds

[craggy whale]

yep

[spring orchid]

So since 40/80 = 1/2

So it's 1400 times 1/2 = 700

So ur power is basically 2.1k

You saved around one battery use every minute

[dusky moth]

batteries are some later game thing I've not had to worry about then?

[spring orchid]

This can work because you have spare power in your PAC

[dusky moth]

I'm still doing the arts park lol

[spring orchid]

This is only relevant lategame

When batteries provide like

800+ power

Where it's worth it to maximize it

Early game where it's like 300-500

It's not worth it

You see why I said it's only a worry lategame

[dusky moth]

I've not even used batteries yet

and did not realize they were even a thing

[dusky moth]

sorta?

[spring orchid]

You'll understand once u reached power management dw XD

This game is surprisingly deep

[craggy whale]

not really deep

[spring orchid]

Well no

[craggy whale]

it just some wulingers

do something

[spring orchid]

It's basic maths yeah

[craggy whale]

its basic math that people on jobs know how to count basically

[spring orchid]

If ur an engineer

Or an it guy

[craggy whale]

im an it

[spring orchid]

Yeah this is easy

[craggy whale]

xd

[spring orchid]

Xd

[craggy whale]

im game dev wanna be

[spring orchid]

Don't say it's easy then smh

Not everyone is an IT or an engineer

[craggy whale]

its easy bcs i know im dumb lol

[spring orchid]

True

It is easy because

[spring orchid]

It can be calculated

That's the best way to describe it

If u can calculate it

It is easy

[smoky eagle]

ooh hello fellow gamedev

[craggy whale]

im not some guy that calculate precisely tbh

[spring orchid]

I'm a data scientist

[craggy whale]

i just can count it roughly

[spring orchid]

Master student

[smoky eagle]

woah cool

[spring orchid]

So yes I can deffo calculate it

Just sometimes I don't want to do my job when playing games XD

It's neat u can apply practical applications here tho

[smoky eagle]

just finished story mode, hoping to create some sellables

[spring orchid]

Good yanzheng

Subpac for xiranite?

[smoky eagle]

yeah the forge is in Wuling aic

[spring orchid]

Oh is this the subpac?

[somber snow]

is that 2 planters and 1 seed picker?

[smoky eagle]

yeah i copied it from a blueprint here it seems to work

[spring orchid]

Hmmm

[somber snow]

if u only want 1 belt of yazhen,
u only need 1 planter and 1 seed picker

[spring orchid]

One way I would change it is

Yeah

Yanzheng only need 1 planter + 1 seed picker

[smoky eagle]

really?

i can stash the other planter :O?

that'd do great for space

[spring orchid]

Their ratio is 1:2:4 instead of 1:2:2 like sandleaf @smoky eagle

[smoky eagle]

kekw

i seee

[somber snow]

yazhen seeds produce 2 plants
plants produce 1 seed

so have 1 belt from the planter go into the seed picker,
1 more into whatever processor u're using,
1 belt from the seed picker into the planter

[spring orchid]

Basically

One seed 2 plants

1 plant go to storage

[smoky eagle]

ok

[spring orchid]

One goes back to loop

To make one seed

Loop starts again

[smoky eagle]

right i see 😮

better than sandleaf in terms of facility count

[spring orchid]

Yes

[smoky eagle]

Thank youu

[spring orchid]

Just add water

[smoky eagle]

Koko Krunch

[somber snow]

grinding sandleaf also produces 3 powders, so use all 3 belts,
doesnt matter what for,
either into storage, or for other processes

[smoky eagle]

heheh

[smoky eagle]

ohhh so 3 belts is fine huh

[spring orchid]

Are you EU or Asia player

[smoky eagle]

thanks thanks

Asia

[spring orchid]

I can show u my bp if u want

[smoky eagle]

sure

[spring orchid]

So u get an idea of a streamllined process

[smoky eagle]

cool!!!

[spring orchid]

Battery: EFO01I3A0e38A49o5o08.
Yanzheng: EFO017i84uiA805oO2Ai.
Xiranite: EFO012O9o1O59U858eIOo.

All of this is modular

[somber snow]

wth is yanzheng

[spring orchid]

All it needs is plants

[spring orchid]

Syringes

[somber snow]

u mean yazhen syringes?

[smoky eagle]

Syringe yeah

awesomeeee

[spring orchid]

It doesn't includes the plants tho

[smoky eagle]

very helpful!!

[spring orchid]

But autofarms is easy to make

[smoky eagle]

right

[somber snow]

if u want better healing items,
just use the farming area and farm a lot of jincao for fluffed jincaos

[smoky eagle]

I saw a vid on that

!!

but can't follow just yet

[spring orchid]

Yanzheng is better

[somber snow]

this thing is the best healing consumable in the game,
but u dont even need this that much,
u can just make the powder, it heals for 500 hp less or so, not even much of a difference

[spring orchid]

For me

I like the rare yanzheng spray sm

5% hp + 600 hp for five second

[somber snow]

yazhen syringe can be automated,
and u can dodge the bosses's atks quite ezly, unless u suck at dodging

even then, ember and ardelia can heal a good amount of hp

[smoky eagle]

i like

to dodge

i also main Ember 😄

she likes to take hits kekw

[spring orchid]

Ember is hard to use

I still am not used animation cancelling as her

[somber snow]

why wud u control ember

[smoky eagle]

she's my comfort character ok

[spring orchid]

She's actually

Good vs bosses

[smoky eagle]

not yet maxed though

[spring orchid]

Stagger damage

U play her around her phys susp stacks and stagger

[somber snow]

interesting team, im not sure if thats optimized

[spring orchid]

That's why u want animation canceling

To increase her attack rate

[somber snow]

i use ember in my heat team with lavacake for umbral,
other than that, i nvr use her

[silver hearth]

Best for controlled op yeah

[somber snow]

my chen team doesnt use her at all

[smoky eagle]

i run perlica with Wild Wanderer so after i complete Final Strike i can go do more Phys Damage

lol

[silver hearth]

Yazhen L heals nore but it doesnt work on controlled !

[spring orchid]

She doesn't synergize with lavacake funnily enough

[silver hearth]

Ember is like

Phys

[somber snow]

its more so that i dont get fucking obliterated if i do get hit,
otherwise, id use wulfgard

[spring orchid]

True

[silver hearth]

You can use both though

[spring orchid]

Lavacake is arts team

So yeah

[silver hearth]

Yeah but its just lavacake, wulfgard and 2 flex rn

[spring orchid]

U mean akekuri + wulfgard

[somber snow]

lavacake, akekuri, ardelia
im not changing these 3,
so its wolf or ember

[silver hearth]

Righttt

[spring orchid]

U need sp

For lavacake

She's hungry

Hungy even

[silver hearth]

How hungry

[spring orchid]

Anw ardelia is funnily enough the flex spot

Can be replaced w gilberta for less sustain but more arts amplifier

[silver hearth]

Notice how ardelia is eating a lavacake on her chinese new year card

[somber snow]

dear lord

[silver hearth]

This is a reference to the fact that she eats Lavacake

[nova lodge]

ardelia eats leava?!?!?

[sturdy frost]

I found this pict

To me, hes churning out those ferrium way more than it mines

Bloody hell that looks like 2000 ferrium output

[lavish crown]

Girls what is the Assault stat line on essence, no one knows

[sturdy frost]

Its gonna clog

[silver hearth]

How many outputs

[sturdy frost]

Like seriously

[silver hearth]

Cause you can run like

18 ferrum outputs

With all mines up

[somber snow]

that looks like 20

[sturdy frost]

Im pretty sure 1080 output is max

[spring orchid]

36

[silver hearth]

36?

[spring orchid]

U can output 36

[silver hearth]

Okay

[spring orchid]

Yep

[silver hearth]

I misremebered

Yeah up to like 36

[spring orchid]

[silver hearth]

Perlica faust when

[sturdy frost]

1 A buck capsule factory is... wait

2 buckflowers 8 ferrium, and 2 sandleaf

[silver hearth]

You can run 3 buck A and 3 HC bats

[sturdy frost]

Means 6

[silver hearth]

Hc bats costs twice less iron than buck A

[sturdy frost]

8x6 is 48

Bruh

[silver hearth]

Dude

[tired parcel]

Any ideas why these numbers didnt match?

[silver hearth]

HC bats costs twice less iron than buck A

[sturdy frost]

Considering ALL of them are bucks

[sturdy frost]

I didnt finish my sentence

[silver hearth]

Guhh

[cedar phoenix]

the 2nd one is for "if you put it, you'll end up at x"

[somber snow]

if u're talking about ur turrets,
u probably have some placed down somewhere else

wait, do those stashes count?

[tired parcel]

I checked , in sub pac already removed cz i finished the tower defenses

[tired parcel]

No idea, also what u see isnt my stash

[somber snow]

yeah, i have no idea why

[sturdy frost]

I maxed out my ferrium output (1080 per minute) with 3 bucks and 3 HC

All of them are 2 to 3 input (Max efficiency)

Meanwhile, the dude in that picture

Is literally WAY more than that

[tired parcel]

Oh nvm... Why dont they show up in map

[sturdy frost]

Hes tanking the output

[tired parcel]

Also i have a memory issue apparently

[silver hearth]

Things inside the outpost dont appear in maps

For some reason

[tired parcel]

They should tbh...

[sturdy frost]

But those are rookie number compared to this factorio

NOOO MY ADDICTION IS SURFACING

Help

[tired parcel]

Is this motherboard

[spring orchid]

Factorio is just

Making chips

[silver hearth]

Functionally the same

[tired parcel]

Literally

[sturdy frost]

No, thats an entire CPU

[silver hearth]

Thats every factory builder

[spring orchid]

No it's factorio

[tired parcel]

I know like... That literally cpu

[spring orchid]

True...

[sturdy frost]

Cracktorio

[tired parcel]

I thonk we can combat cpu shortage with these people here

[silver hearth]

Irl chip design is also, signal in, signal processed in certain ways, signal out

[tired parcel]

Gate logic... Except the belt is as fast as lightning

[spring orchid]

Chip design in general is just

Math in action

Gate logic

Etc

[tired parcel]

Yes no yes no

[spring orchid]

It's always has been transistors

[silver hearth]

Math and physics yes

Since its not always microchips

[tired parcel]

True... But sometime in endfield its meth and psycho

[silver hearth]

Factories are more like

The chips used in your daily appliances

Computer/microchip would be logic

Logic in endfield when

[tired parcel]

Factories are just slowmotion cpu

[spring orchid]

I wonder like

If the first person who invents the microchip

Thinks like us

[tired parcel]

Definitely

Ya know

[spring orchid]

"Hmm yes this is a small factory in a chip, fun"

[tired parcel]

I always think

Its whoever finds it first

Invent it

[silver hearth]

Invented the bus

[tired parcel]

All of us could be inventor

But we were ages too late

XD

Literally everything we have rn

Wait a minute... Sub pac defense limit separates with other places?

Its still 14/13 after i removed in subpac

[somber snow]

when u're doing the tower defense at least, yeah
not sure about the overall limit

[silver hearth]

The fact that the PWM in endfield uses depot to count time whilenirl electronic watches uses electrical pulses from something like

An oscillating quartz crystal

[tired parcel]

Apparently that separated limit from the wuling essence area

[somber snow]

better to just stash those turrets,
then look for the turrets u apparently placed down somewhere else

[hexed raft]

why it says on the repot thing that im producing 20 origocrust/s even if i dont have any factories for it

[spring orchid]

I think time gate here use input rate and splitters instead

[silver hearth]

Yeah same thing, functionally

[stark osprey]

I wanna confirm something. For a 50% efficiency Xiranite component line I can just use 1 Packed Origocrust line to bottleneck this thing right?

[silver hearth]

Do some basic maths

[stark osprey]

With the math I did this would be the result at least

[silver hearth]

Yeah sure

Then

Now just check and see if it works

[tired parcel]

The number didnt add up properly help xd

[silver hearth]

If one line clogs after a while you prob did sth wrong

Simple as that

[stark osprey]

it means I did something right in this case

[sly dawn]

yall know which unit do you need to produce buck capsule?

[silver hearth]

Filling i think

Packaging is for batteries

[sly dawn]

type c

[tired parcel]

Oke found it

[stark osprey]

Ok so I checked. 1 packed origocrust line will allow me to have xiranite for personal use and the xiranite components while still being able to make batteries

kinda sad you can't make both batteries and components at 100% efficiency

[spare fractal]

Like💞
https://youtube.com/shorts/Y-K_E0qUu30?si=y9lRDLXNI-IiaRrC

[silver hearth]

Wuling upd when

[nova lodge]

not anytime soon, that's for sure.
its lunar new year after all.
that did be extreme overtime.

[royal eagle]

Just completed chapter I

[tiny yacht]

Hi, does anybody know why I’m getting slight dips in production here? I’ve noticed that in my Buckflower shredder tends to be slightly underfed, and even if I give it a small buffer of Buckflowers, the buffer will disappear eventually. However, the planter itself usually has several seeds/Buckflower as buffer, so I’m not sure why the shredder would be underfed. Could it have something to do with the belt bridges maybe?

[floral vector]

have you tried rice?

[tiny yacht]

Sorry, what do you mean?

[tropic fog]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-happy-sad-sad-happy-happy-but-sad-crying-happy-gif-4054146665585891600

[spring orchid]

5 hour to Power Plateau

[shrewd sigil]

Is there's something wrong here?
I unlocked recycling station and upgrade it fully and got less then 2K

[spring orchid]

Nuts

[spring orchid]

Highest value comes from upgrading regions (subpacs)

[tropic fog]

5 hours to just set HC battery production unit,
And fix plantation unit

[spring orchid]

It's nothing wrong

Depots is the second highest

Then distributors

[shrewd sigil]

but recycling station should give me 3850
it gave me way less

[spring orchid]

Then recyclers then mining spots

[spring orchid]

Weird

[floral vector]

its a reddit joke my bad

[spring orchid]

Idk that's weird

[tiny yacht]

Btw, any ideas regarding occasional production dips? Or is that to be expected?

[teal hemlock]

you play on mobile?

[tropic fog]

Yes.. It's the only thing I have

[teal hemlock]

oh I guess that complicates factory building

[floral vector]

are you using splitters there?

[tropic fog]

These are all my factories...
I am unable to place more grinders.. What should I do? Revamp the whole factory?

[tropic fog]

I didn't use blueprints.. That's the issue

I didn't use the system ones.. Didn't use someone else's

[tiny yacht]

Pretty sure there aren’t any splitters; there are belt bridges to the right of the shredder, but the shredder has 2 belts of output, if that makes a difference.

[floral vector]

make sure your belt inputs go in at the same time

[stark osprey]

In what case specifically?

What production line does that?

[tiny yacht]

I don’t have a specific case, but I just happened to notice there are dips in all 3 of my products. I just showed the Buckflower/shredder thing as an example. I’ve also seen some dips on a longer time scale than the previous 30 minutes.

Sorry, this was my original post for context: #aic-factory message

[tiny yacht]

I could try that, but if I buffer the input with a few Buckflowers, I would think that it shouldn’t matter. But I think my buffers tend to disappear after some time.

[quartz oriole]

I've found a use for the outpost in Wuling. There's a small pond right behind the subpac and I ran water to 2x planters to make yazhin and jincao powders so I can craft them with rice or ginseng

[stark osprey]

Dips can be caused by production lines that use the same material. Let me give you an example. You can have a production dip for a Buck capsule A line if you didn't set up a proper sand leaf power production and it's being shared by multiple lines if you take it out of the AIC via unloaders

That was the case for me at least until I set up a better one to be able to produce cryston components as well

[stark osprey]

That pond is the closest water source you have access to there so make good use of it

I use it for my battery line there

[golden shore]

why everything is red?

[stark osprey]

Clogging

[golden shore]

its going red

and Becoming normal

glitch?

[stark osprey]

No

It's not a glitch

[golden shore]

weird

how do i fix it?

[quartz oriole]

Was thinking about setting up some liquid Xiranite for fertilizer but honestly that may be a bad use of resources but I'm just about capped on Xiranite components and batteries due to wuling outpost not making enough bills to purchase all of them

[tiny yacht]

In my case though, I have an entire planter/seeder/planter module that only feed into the shredder, so I don’t think there are any other lines that are sharing that Buckflower.

[floral vector]

weird how your shredding unit shedding the sandlief isnt clogged considering you're only outputting 2 belts

[stark osprey]

I found the reason why

The grinder at the bottom isn't connected to the refinery

You have only 1 out of the 2 refineries sending refined carbon to the forge of the skies

[golden shore]

oh god i am soo dumb

i just realized i forgot to connect that

[stark osprey]

All good mate🤣

[golden shore]

[golden shore]

thanks man

[stark osprey]

Any time

[stark osprey]

How much Xiranite do you produce at the moment?

[quartz oriole]

I believe 60/min

[stark osprey]

Both forges are being used for batteries?

[quartz oriole]

Batteries/components. I was making 12/min batteries but I capped at 48k. Then I lowered it to 8/min and 3/min components but I'm getting close to 48k components now.

[stark osprey]

I'm asking because what you do to make all the Xiranite stuff is run 1 forge for batteries as it will be enough, and use the second one for whatever you need. I for one am planning to use the 2nd one for Xiranite components but bottleneck the production itself

[stark osprey]

Holy

Hold up. How did you bottleneck the battery line to 8/min???

2 grinders only right?

For the 2nd battery setup I mean

[knotty egret]

HWAT HAVE I DONE

[quartz oriole]

I have a 6/min battery set up and a 2/min battery set up. Yes I believe it's only 2 grinders

[stark osprey]

The 2/min one runs only 1 grinder

I did the math wrong in my head

[quartz oriole]

I'd have to check but it's whatever worked for exactly 2/min. I've thought about stopping Metatransfer of ferrium for bottles or parts. But I've heard that's similar output overall

[floral vector]

way to waste all those depots

[quartz oriole]

And replacing it with bottles or parts but I haven't tested it

[stark osprey]

The moment we get access to a 3rd Forge of the Skies will be the best day for Wuling I feel like

[quartz oriole]

You are absolutely correct. I even went back to valley IV and looked for water sources to run to my outposts lol

[stark osprey]

You can't use water in Valley 4 tho from what I know

[quartz oriole]

Yea I found that out.

[rocky ibex]

I feel like the bottleneck is orignium not xira tho

[quartz oriole]

I have like 60/min originium that I'm not using in wuling.

[stark osprey]

Xiranite is one since you can't make a 100% efficient Xiranite component line while having a battery line

[rocky ibex]

Ah fair

[quartz oriole]

Since I've slowed down my battery line

[stark osprey]

I think I have more since I tapped all the originium nodes there

[quartz oriole]

I was 360/360 when I was making 12/min batteries but since I cut it to 8/min I'm down to 300/360

[rocky ibex]

(Im filling a lake with liquid xiranite otherwise it'd be 60/60)

[foggy relic]

At this moment I have unlocked main factory and three sub-factories. How do you manage them? Im losing my mind when were i need to find which location produce missing item or why it stopped. There is possible to preview what happening in factory without going there? Jumping between location is tiring...

[stark osprey]

The 40k pit?

[quartz oriole]

Which lake are you filling?

[stark osprey]

It was the 40k pit

[quartz oriole]

I need to do that! I had no idea that was a thing

[rocky ibex]

Oh its done

Neat

[stark osprey]

It's part of a quest

You need to drain that thing to start it

[quartz oriole]

Well I drained the pit but never filled it back up

[stark osprey]

Ah

I wanna fill it with Yanzen solution honestly

[quartz oriole]

How do you fill it up with xiranite

[stark osprey]

The medicinal bath🤣

[nova lodge]

yanzhen is very much doable, since it doesn't need anything besides a super long pipe ;3
doesn't need bottle / xiranite

[round flint]

my factory suddenly ran out of power and stopped working.....even my thermal banks cant save itv cause theres no power. what do i do

[rocky ibex]

Im sad that yazhen and jincao look the same

[stark osprey]

You need to pipe this entire thing from the AIC all the way there right?

[nova lodge]

yeah....wish yanzhen is orange in colour :v

[stark osprey]

They are both white?

[nova lodge]

yep, either main AIC or from jingyu valley, either way works.

[stark osprey]

Which one is faster/easier to set up?

The main AIC I feel like would be faster

[quartz oriole]

Well I have a project now

[nova lodge]

ehhh.....the moment you decide to fill a hole with 40K unit, doubt time is really a factor at that point lul.
but yes, main AIC is easier.

[stark osprey]

Same here. This will be my 2nd one for Wuling

1st one is the bottlenecked Xiranite Component line

[quartz oriole]

I never knew you could fill those up

[stark osprey]

I need to set up a 50% Xiranite Component line

My main AIC is full of Xiranite so I have enough for a good while for towers and such

The main grind tho will be getting Regional lvl 12 for Valley 4

I wanna set up that Syringe line for Wuling

[spring orchid]

You can use it for power

30 ori/min can provide around 200 power

[rocky ibex]

They both look like that

[stark osprey]

That looks like what Xiranite water should've looked like

[round flint]

ive wiped all the factory areas clean... what do i do now? 😭 i have negative power

[rocky ibex]

Yeah, and xiranite looks like yazhen solution

[knotty egret]

You need to be using your originium from mining to make lc batteries to power thermal banks. I just fixed my power issue that way

[stark osprey]

Set up a few thermal banks to jump start the system

Just some originium ore inside will do for now

[knotty egret]

because if you use originum to power your bankd.. you are essentially going to be at an originium deficit in the long run because the ore you mine will only be used to power your mines

And multiple factories needing power will have you always low on originum

so it’s best to use that originum to make batteries that last much longer power wise

[spring orchid]

Ziplines and defenses use power

[knotty egret]

But using ore to jumpstart it is fine

[stark osprey]

I think that's a bug honestly

I just got an idea...

[grave wedge]

In my opinion, AIC Factory needs a option called “Mirror” - Over the Bulk settings option

My OCD🥀

I want my factory to look centred 💀🥀

My Wuling is empty with 0 factories

[stark osprey]

What if they added the option to make alcohol that we can use to create better healing items? Idea being that you use stuff like Buckflower and Citrone as a baseline and you send them through a fermentation line to get alcohol made with them and than send that in with some Yanzen for example and make a more potent healing item

[rocky ibex]

Loxic Kohl

[grave wedge]

How’d yall make money in Wuling gang 😭

[round flint]

😭 i got 420/500 power rn... I supposed I start with producing lc batteries to power the thermal banks? is there a recceomended blue print that make lc batteries and powers thermal banks?

[stark osprey]

Do your deliveries and photo shoots for the meteo station

[knotty egret]

And then theres an option to “drink” the alcohol that just results in your character instantly dying because it turns out to be rubbing alcohol

[grave wedge]

Asia ?!

[grave wedge]

I did but it’s not refreshing

[round flint]

im america 😔

[grave wedge]

It’s stuck for 2 days like that

[grave wedge]

Check your dm

[stark osprey]

Not really. Drinking the base alcohol could work the same way it does in Terraria. You get a positive stat and a negative one for drinking it. Take Sake in terraria for example. More melee dmg at the cost of less defense

[knotty egret]

but idk if the devs would allow the characters to actually consume items w alcohol in ii

[stark osprey]

Fair point...

Still it would be cool. One thing I expected them to do is do some nuclear power type system later on tho

In their own style at least

I wanna manage a nuclear power plant in this game badly

[knotty egret]

that’s why i think just labeling it “alcohol” and having it be a topical antiseptic would be funny

Because then people would try to drink it

[vapid dock]

Just bring some hc batteries to jumpstart lc wuling batt production.

[stark osprey]

If you think about it... Buckflower could be used for wine and Citrone for Cider

[knotty egret]

Mybe just mocktails

[jade hare]

anyone know where the 3 sky pillars are for here?

[spring orchid]

Sell yazheng c and wuling batteries

[jade hare]

i got bored

[hexed raft]

any way to make them get back their monii faster? i get so little exp bc they gain so low money

[teal hemlock]

sleeping facilities still use power right?

[fossil spoke]

wdym by sleeping ?

clogged ?

not working

or the zzzz sign ?

since all those 3 still use power

[hexed raft]

they probably mean zzz when theres no input or wrong input in the machine

[fossil spoke]

ah then it still uses power

the only time when machine wont use power is when u turned it off on the machine UI

or, its not inside the relay / pylon area

[indigo obsidian]

FARMING PLOT LIMIT MAKES ME SAD BTW XD

i was about to optimize it to fill it

[stoic coyote]

mhm

[teal hemlock]

ah ok thx

[sick basin]

electrician

[thorny galleon]

Are there any advantages to using the normal pylons over the xyranite ones?

[sick basin]

Xyranite cant be used in valley

[teal hemlock]

what's the target power, 5.6k ?

[thorny galleon]

Cool! So I should 100% never use these normal ones again!
At least, until I decide to chuck some turrets down on some mob node

[sick basin]

5505

[teal hemlock]

mhm

[sick basin]

If u want 5.6k
Just take take away 2 from left one and add 3 to right one

[teal hemlock]

u using hc batteries?

[sick basin]

Yeah
I can buy out outposts and have batteries surplus

So im using them in wulling too, so im not using any wulling batteries for max profit/stocking up

[teal hemlock]

could try this one-shot design if you want, the power should be about 5600

[sick basin]

I mean, thx ig

[shrewd stump]

does anyone have a blueprint for xiranite components?

[spring orchid]

It's just packed origucrust

And xiranite

[topaz wyvern]

quite stable power

[candid moth]

[topaz wyvern]

I think this is enough headroom

[real marsh]

Hello factory enjoyers

Im tempted to set up a megabase of my own but i feel like other gamers are just better at it then i will ever be

[topaz wyvern]

perfection

[real marsh]

Shall i just say fuck it and attempt it anyway

[topaz wyvern]

yes

[sick basin]

Wtf

[topaz wyvern]

works? works

[real marsh]

not sure how to set up a mega base

[sick basin]

Youre missing some things pookie

Bunch of things

[topaz wyvern]

I am working on that

[teal hemlock]

want a pwm?

[spring orchid]

You gotta know what u wanna do first

[topaz wyvern]

nah

made my own

[sick basin]

Paid when manning?

Hell ye

[teal hemlock]

manning what 👀

[teal hemlock]

but you have 3k+ surplus tho 😭

[topaz wyvern]

thats cause I have a second power system

[real marsh]

Wel i would like to fit as much as possible in the main AIC system

[topaz wyvern]

Theres also this

[real marsh]

46 depots unloaders and 6 AIC outputs, Mhmmmm

[teal hemlock]

I heard endfield factory is turing complete so technically we could make endfield inside endfield 😵‍💫 (thought the game limitations won't allow it)

[topaz wyvern]

well you can technicaly make ram already

I have an idea

[teal hemlock]

pwms are the best I can do lol, I don't even know how to make the needed logic gates here

[sick basin]

1 splitter row, 2 converger rows

Replace converger with bridges where a 1 is supposed to be

We love bits

[topaz wyvern]

bit, byte, kilobyte, megabyte, gigabite, terabyte

[real marsh]

should i just copy a megabase design and enjoy that

[topaz wyvern]

to make anything, we need atleast 3 KB of ram

[inland knoll]

thats no fun

making stuff yourself is satisfying

[topaz wyvern]

nah, make it yourself, have some satisfaction

[real marsh]

Aight time to attempt to build my own megabase

any tips?

The base goal is 18 HC bats and 24 Meds

should be doable

[inland knoll]

thats not sustainable the max you can get without using excess resources is 18 of each

but thats more than enough already

dont worry

[topaz wyvern]

good luck!

[real marsh]

you get like 1080 ferrium/m

isnt that 24 meds?

[inland knoll]

spread your plant production out instead of concentrating it all in one PAC, it was so much easier to fit everything when i figured that out

[inland knoll]

you still need to use 120 for each battery line

[real marsh]

oh yhea im stupid

[inland knoll]

you can make some of the weaker meds with only amethyst and plants though

[real marsh]

i already got that coverd

Want to see something im proud of? :3

[topaz wyvern]

no matter what ya do, you will be proud of the work

[crimson inlet]

18/18 can bankrupt outposts back to back

[real marsh]

Welcome to Mini megabase

[topaz wyvern]

peah

peak*

heh

[real marsh]

This is in a outpost

6 HC vall production + the lowertier meds productoin

[topaz wyvern]

https://klipy.com/gifs/memes-bruh

[crimson inlet]

I can't believe chen made this base all by herself

[inland knoll]

oh that is actually much the best you can do with one sub pac

[real marsh]

i dont believe it aswel, wait what is that bird doing in the back

[rocky ibex]

WAIT you can do this??

Whats the point of the storage transfer??

[inland knoll]

i like keeping mine slightly empty and only doing what i really need so its like a packaging line and a few plants and then empty space so it doesnt feel cramped

[crimson inlet]

so, 6/min hc production + 12/min citrome c?

[topaz wyvern]

finnaly found out?

[inland knoll]

there isnt really one

[rocky ibex]

Yeah

[real marsh]

24

[topaz wyvern]

thats the point, there isnt one

[topaz wyvern]

peak

you reminded me that I need to redo my meds

[sick basin]

Not using storage transfer but the other one instead

[real marsh]

I tried to see if i could put like Buck (a) in there

[sick basin]

🤞

[real marsh]

Metastorage ^

[crimson inlet]

3 Buck A

all outposts are HC (3)

[topaz wyvern]

this looks so fine

perfection

[rocky ibex]

I mean metastorage is still not super efficient

[real marsh]

Hey Oopu you can fit 24 Citrome [c]

[real marsh]

:2

Oh nvm

your stuf looks good

[crimson inlet]

nah, I wanna make some building parts

[sly dawn]

yall know which unit do you need to produce buck capsule type c?

[topaz wyvern]

looks good!

[sick basin]

Its free mats since its created out if air so, might as well

[crimson inlet]

Filling unit

[inland knoll]

all the valley 4 drugs should be filling unit

[real marsh]

^

[rocky ibex]

Fair but still

[real marsh]

i should figure out what to do with the 20 Originium ore i have left

[topaz wyvern]

burn

literaly

[real marsh]

nah thats a not efficient production line waiting for me

[sly dawn]

thanks

[real marsh]

Mhmmm i got 24 ferrium belts to use

[hexed geyser]

Anyone have a pic of their wuling eco farm? I set mine up but didn’t realize elevation mattered so it’s half broken lol

[real marsh]

eco farm?

[topaz wyvern]

people use that?

[real marsh]

I should figure out how many ferrium belts a buck [a] takes

8 each?

[hexed geyser]

I mean I just unlocked it lol

Realized I should cause I need ginseng straws

Stews

[topaz wyvern]

I just forgot about it

and for tacticals I only use meds. is it supid? probably

[real marsh]

Brotha im using syringes from wulling :)

Speaking of, i can save some wulling power if i make both wulling meds instead of forcing 1

[hexed geyser]

lol ye i don't use any consumables or tacticals other than syringes but im tryna minmax my time on bosses

[sick basin]

Just fix it idk man

Its very simple

[real marsh]

anyway i go sleep

you all have fun

[topaz wyvern]

interesting

[sick basin]

[topaz wyvern]

too bad I dont know Japanesee

[sick basin]

U dont need to

[hexed geyser]

ooh thank you

[topaz wyvern]

I accualy want too

[sick basin]

Idc

Go learn it then

[digital dew]

Can someone help me.. I genuinely have no idea what I’m doing for factory and I keep running out of the green ticket things 😭 every tutorial I watch either has invalid codes or not what I’m looking for

I’m so slow it’s sad

[topaz wyvern]

the what?

[topaz wyvern]

what are the "green tickets"

[spring orchid]

oh

they prolly mean

region currency

[spring orchid]

stock bills

[digital dew]

Like the things u need to craft gear

[spring orchid]

have u unlocked a subpac first @digital dew

[topaz wyvern]

makes sence I guess

[digital dew]

Uhhh I think I’m al 40

[sick basin]

[spring orchid]

can't you sell through region?

region development

u should've had enough at lvl 40

and should've at least unlocked 2 subpac by now

[digital dew]

Yeah but I keep running out

Dude I have no idea what is going on

[sick basin]

Make more

[topaz wyvern]

@spring orchid question is, or is he talking about bills, or the parts (or whatever thats called)

[sick basin]

[spring orchid]

yeah

is it the valley IV stock bills

[digital dew]

Yea

[topaz wyvern]

ah

[spring orchid]

have u upgraded ur depots + subpacs?

those are the two most important ways to get stock bills

[sick basin]

Are u doing stock trading, deliveries
Have ores all set and making shit to trade for

[spring vessel]

Go check your side quests if you didn’t do any

The respective quest lines unlock stuff like depots, sub pacs etc

[spring orchid]

^

[digital dew]

Wait I’ll show u pics of what my thing looks like rn

[spring vessel]

Refugee camp is the only subpac you get main story wise

That and obviously wuling

[digital dew]

I’ve done a bit of side quests

[topaz wyvern]

@digital dew its weird youre running out of bills

with all respect

it makes NO sence

[spring orchid]

at lvl 40

u should be swimming in it

since u already unlocked 2 subpacs

[spring vessel]

To be fair I basically ignored my factory until cryston gear lmao

[digital dew]

I think I have 3 areas unlocked

I’m trying guys I just can’t figure this out 😭

[sick basin]

You have like

[spring orchid]

what is the level

[sick basin]

Nothing

[spring orchid]

of your

[sick basin]

[spring orchid]

subpacs

and yeah your factory is empty

[digital dew]

Bro I know 😢

[spring vessel]

Bro your factory is homeless

No wonder you have no bills

[spring orchid]

no shame but

[spring vessel]

You literally produce nothing

[digital dew]

I don’t k ow how to build

[topaz wyvern]

proud to pop in the video

[spring orchid]

you should start producing

[spring orchid]

copy BPs

if u don't know what ur doing

[spring vessel]

Just go to #1461542035617091681 and steal some stuff there to sell

[spring orchid]

can we see ur PAC lvls?

so we know how bad it is

[digital dew]

Where do I see that

[spring vessel]

Buck capsules and HC batteries are stuff you should have unlocked

[spring orchid]

regional development

[spring vessel]

And those two basically give you infinite money

[spring orchid]

need to know if u unlocked purple battery + buck capsule A selling yet or not

[spring vessel]

He should

[bright zodiac]

guys, he has 200 power

[spring orchid]

this is why

I don't

know

gotta know how far he progressed the factory progress

[spring vessel]

I’m more impressed you made it to level 40 on that tbh

[digital dew]

World exploration

[spring vessel]

Bro really just ignored half the game lmfao

[spring orchid]

lvl 6

oml

yeah uhhh

[digital dew]

Guys save me

[spring orchid]

lvl 6 at authority 40 is

not good

[digital dew]

😢

[spring orchid]

u should be around 8

[spring vessel]

Bro sell something else the originium ore

[digital dew]

Gulp

[spring orchid]

what is the level of ur subpacs @digital dew

[bright zodiac]

he will probably need to produce LC battery, do set more mine

proceed to SC battery, do moreeee mine (and hopefully until sandleaf unlock)

then he can finally proceed to full base and HC battery

[spring vessel]

Unironically yeah

[spring orchid]

no shame btw

but it means u kind of

[spring vessel]

Just make batteries to sell

[spring orchid]

have to progress slowly

lvl up each subpacs first

[spring vessel]

The good news is that your stuff is so underleveled you don’t even have to make HC or buck capsules yet

You can’t even sell them yet

[digital dew]

Like one I think.. I haven’t touched the other ones since I got them

[topaz wyvern]

WHAT

[spring orchid]

lvl one

urgh

oh my god yeah ur playing the waiting game

[digital dew]

😭

[spring orchid]

is it all lvl 1 @digital dew

[topaz wyvern]

bro forgot about 50% of the game

[spring vessel]

Actual poverty lmao

[spring orchid]

I think ur ignoring the facility aspect of the game which is fine

it just means you are locked for anything resolved bills progression

[bright zodiac]

there is no fast way to ppl that dont quite grasp "the way".

unless you know what you are doing, ans you are speedrunning things, you either thermal bank Originium, speedrun to SC battery (quad power is enough tp full sustain everything by this time)

will eventually shift to HC when unlock sandleaf and plan to have more than 3500+ power then its HC time

[spring orchid]

it is

that's why I say they have to level up their sub pacs slowly

since they don't run it in tandem with the main story progression

[spring vessel]

Really it’s just following the battery line, You can both use them to power your base and sell it

You can’t use buck capsules yet so

No need to sell that

[digital dew]

Yea

[spring orchid]

they can prolly sell buck capsule C

and SC valley battery

[bright zodiac]

yea, 👌

[wide jay]

If a belt runs at 60/min. That means 1 splitter = 30/min(2 seconds)
2 Splitter = 15/min(4 seconds)
3 Splitter= 7.5/min(8 seconds)
4 splitter = 3.25/min(18.5 seconds)
5 splitters = 1.625/min(39 seconds)

[spring vessel]

Is buck capsule C even better then SC at that point

[spring orchid]

buck capsule C is needed for lvl 1

progression

I think

or was it amethyst parts

your top priority is upgrading ALL of your subpacs @digital dew

and your depots

to do that you gotta start making some produces to sell

there should be some blueprints in the server to help you get started

[digital dew]

Idk which blueprints would help me tho

[wide jay]

Use this as reference when making battery saver

[digital dew]

When I look at the blueprints my mind explodes

[spring orchid]

open ur subpac first

see what item they buy

copy the blueprint needed

then sell the items requested

lvl up ur subpac

repeat this loop until all is lvl 4

[digital dew]

What

I need tutorial I’m so sorry