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with 4* team especially 
ok my Wulf is E4 now thanks APCs
also, currently going around ransacking bunny houses and slugs homes for rare mats.
yes but i legit dont have most of the core units
oh im talking about like
no Ines, no Necrass, no Logos
the latest CC i believe didn't need even one of them :v
how long does it need for the wilderness monster to respawn on wuling?
Why is it so uglyyy😭
Looks fine to me.
i should level 90 the rest of my neglected 6*
Those transport belts so looong
I guess you should check the recipe in planters for wuling plants.
better level your 4* - 5* for IS mode.
as long as your core 6* were done.
alot of my 3* are maxed for that reason
You can use protocol stash (or depo loader) if you really want to reduce belt length.
mfw kroos is the mvp for snipers for the longest time 
i wisadel 'em all 
Depot buses in Wuling are flexible so you should unlock them as soon as possible
Then you can just put unloaders on this side
try wisadel mobs with 1 hp damage taken per hit stuff.
sorry, to kill them, its by hits, not by damage dealt now :v
let the 3 small turret do it 
i t'altered the underwater one so often i kinda had to stop myself from starting with a specialist 
skill lock talisman, good luck if it hits you.
Kaltsit 🥹
Ima feel so refreshed when I unlock depot s
lmao i just make this and let it be, the whole wuling ferium supply right there
You should make a little adjustment with the planters. Wuling planters produce 2 plants from 1 seed, so the optimal set up is a bit different from the usual plants in v4.
finally back at the aic
turns out i also m3'd saileach only for myrtle to take the stage every time 
i also do the same, so the main PAC only try to craft high tier material
Oh i didnt know that it will save so much space
also i just realized
Yeah. It will 🙂
Oof
that's what i'm doing 
i was trying to run 3 batteries LMFAO
you save 1 extra step
but the xiranite doesnt let you
Yah, Xiranite locked.
man how has saria not been powercrept after all these years
When we get 3rd forge I'd assume we'd get a bunch of more complex recipes to mess with.

its hard to powercreep supports
i was surprised when my friend said Suzuran is still used a lot
anyone know a megabase to get every single thing?
guardian defenders are always good due to their flexibility.
also the reason why Shu is just as busted.
time to play fallout 76
meanwhile ejya alter has basically powercrept most healers i think
but you're right nightingale and shining are still goats
I love my shining
she literally make all other healers irrelevant if its just heals that are considered as the factor.
monster became a hybrid buffer, dps, healer with true damage lul
50$....
isnt that cost a money?
real money
Another piece for the collection.
Bought from draining all outposts dry of money.

one of my friend bought all the 30$ skins like 3 available is like damm He really likes it.
they're good skins fwiw
Hello for some reason I can't find this online but what's the max dimensions of the valley iv core pac area?
not sure but its big enough to do all available resource. its like u have 1/4 more extra to build.
I don't have chance buy the outfit at all 
sigh....yvonne sure isn't as good for bossing when compared to other 6* ops....
for current 3 limited banners.
Liskarm still viable? 😭
yes, but why bring her when other people just does things better?
really? whats the draw back?
e2 90 m9 mod 3 because abyssalknights op
only in the starting days when you wanna spam chen s2 over and over again 😭
i got liskarm super late so i never got to build that
abyssal are different breed. I always use them to do afk strat
I used to use her with fire fly to nuke everything 😭
still good for invis detection
This guy is based
- solidification doesn't stop bosses or even slow them.
- her ult is restrictive (unlike leava which have abilities to prevent her hp from going too low), which means massive drop in dps dodging all the time.
- her combo skill is also stationary aoe, boss goes out of range = bye~
usable? yes
but comparitively worse when used during bossing.
from bilibili : av80569309
Mine sadly are only M3 mod 3, except for skadi which also has skill 3 M3 (still got oneshot by the CC mode Patriot...)
you can place a item at corners and then select them to see the area, its 70x70 for valley and 80x80 for wuling right now
ahh. poor mobility, disabler, and abit problem in survivability. Then She support reliant. Or you need to switch characters in-order to work properly.
lol isaved all my currency for yvonne due to my main team is ice focus 
ice just feels bad
Still a good dps pulls out insane numbers
hope randomly get gilberta or surtr then 
They have alesh 
this is my problem in cryo, after damage. its like nothing happened XD
Last rite might be the best op in the game rn
we have shy cannibals that might bite you 
more or less.
by current limited banner rankings for chars:
- gilberta (supports have broader application).
- leava
- yvonne
last rite works mainly due to her single insta nuke damage.
she is less reliant on solidification, unlike yvonne is.
more broader application, easier to pull off and adjust.
Watch her be power crept in like a month
Yeah I did guess you just meant ice teams in general but shit is insane
i guess they have shatter but it counts as phys so....
Solo trim on Re-Crisis pot 0 ? Like are we fr?
and bosses just dont freeze anyway
still probably pull Yvonne, Am not interested in upcomming banners like Tangtang and Rossi
is it confirmed ?
unlikely.
if characters like yvonne type designs gets released, the drawbacks are too big to work well with them.
even Leava will get powercreeped hard if there is a char with insta big nuke fire damage + easy combo proc gets added.
Im waiting for rossi and mifu
has same problem as genshin shatter, no one uses it
Afaik unconfirmed but they're 100% coming
my biggest gripe with solidifcation....
haaah
it doesn't even slow them.
also, yvonne damage got nerfed compared to beta videos, so don't use that as a reference =.=.
True but with laev at least her stagger hit and combo skill do a ton of dmg
that is why she is still decent, and her abilities isn't as restrictive.
though if you can do big stagger damage + big ult damage consistently, its definitely gonna outshine her =.=
I can finally stop importing batteries from v4
yep, so leava is more of an all-rounder.
I just wish laevs battle skill didn't miss so much when the bosses move
guess who fucked up their factory 😂
Copied kyostinv base build. Where do we produce steel parts and cryston
doesn't really like her battle skill myself.....
and at times, i wish gilberta skill explode faster / follow enemy as they move.
you can dodge out of it
if you dont want to perform the heat blast
or know you will miss
wasted SP :v
but yeah, better than dead ;v
yea just use the authority level gear parts to make the 4 stars
and skip it altogether
4 star gear
Ty
Having gear doesnt really change your character much anyways until late game
does help a bit with progression, but if are comfortable with the progression using blue gear, feel free to proceed.
Okie.
Oh? My battery not bugged anymore but other production still has the -1.
not really bugged since that the day graph
has anyone managed to fit a max rate Buck Cap. A and max rate HC Valley Battery prod. line in a single outpost? if anyone's got a link /bp code I'd really appreciate it 🙏
just means you stopped the factory some time during that day probably
or their server doing hiccup
Well, people have been reporting it as bugged.
wuling only has 1 sub pac?
Yesterday my battery was 11 yield too. But it's 12 now.
my quest thing says explore the map or smth
explore talos, as in find the entrances to the invisible walls
the what
how do i use metastorage transfer 💔
they're suggesting 0 sanity behavior
cancel your current one
i need to get batteries to wuling theyre eating all my ferrium
and it will stare you in the face
once u get regional development to level 12, it's just the same as regional transfer. go to your main hub thing in your factory and click on regional transfer
Uh both? Uh no but buck capsule A probably. I could fit two capsule makers in an outpost max I haven't seen anyone made more than that honestyl.
idea: the expensive trophies in dijang should give buffs to work areas so its not just a shiny trinket 
Get to region lv12 on V4. Go to any AIC -> Protocol Management -> Regional Transfer -> Edit -> Metastorage then choose what you want to transfer.
i see
man
yeah both... i'm getting so close 😭 I already ahve a pretty compact buck capsule A bp that fits in like a 9-unloader wide thing iirc
im so cooked
Don't think about it too much, it's just some free extra resources to play with.
does anyone have asia blueprint link for the PWM system?
It won't kill you.
i am transferring my spare ferrium from valley and i still lose 5 a hour
Yup, that's the gist of it.
Idk how you would fit all that in a tiny outpost space
Meta storage actually doesn't use up any resources though.
i dont even create yazhen syringes or whatever its just xiranite components
It just makes them out of nowhere.
OHH
metastroage transfer isn't really all that useful... like, you can use it to go from 90 Ferrium/ hour in Wuling... to 115 Ferrium/hour... that's like a little bit over 1 extra mining rig
Stockpile Transfer eats up the resources. Metatransfer is free.
yeah Ik... these sandflower and buckflower loops are just so damn THICC
Your blueprint from unloader does it really work 10/m ?
I test it and the output still 90/m
So thicc so chunky
it covers my losses from 30 a minute to 5 a minute
?
That splitter just increase my load 3 time
I transfer ferrium parts not ferrium.
ah you're doing that thing where you top up amnually every so often? I thought about it but eh
So you skip ferium
yea i really want to keep this 100% efficiency xiranite component thing going
I mean, for Metastorage yeah.
OH WAIT
Just optimization stuff.
Hol up ima look back at my aic usage and see how cursed it became when I wasnt looking
WHY DONT I JUST MANUALLY TRANSFER VALLEY BATTERIES
....
you can do 100% eff xiranite using only the 115/min you get using the 1500 from metastorage trasnfer
i think i did the math and its a big pain
Xiranite doesn't mess with Ferrium no?
im also running this at 100% 😭
it doesnt, but the power is a problem
Just gotta optimize man.
I just love you only need buck powder and sandleaf to make ground buckcapsule
if u do a 100% efficient xiranite component u cant get lc wuling batteries
hm, so you're not making anything worth wuling stock bills?
yea
the lack of ferrium is criminal
Oh, I'm already done with gear for now.
Kinda stuck because out of cheap artificers.
i thought i was too, but artificing is being a pain
And I'm too stingy to buy the 120k one.
Man, ferrum in wuling is scarce these days
ah i didnt mean 100% eff xiranite component, i just meant 100% eff xiranite usage. I have 5/6 of my 60.min going into components, and the remaining 1/6 going into batteries, which I have being used at a slower rate than they are made - so I end up making a tiny surplus of batteries, raw xiranite, and even a tiny tiny amount of liquid xiranite
The steel part transfer is brilliant
Since it doesn't consume your ferrium
So when you run out of steel part
how do u set it up that way-
Ferrium won't run out because it's 90/90.
It wont consume your wuling ferrium
Not too shabby holy-
uh, a very complicated 2-part bp I'm working on, that fits in the outpost
Your production line will get stuck a bit yeah, but Ferrium won't go down.
Yeah it produces 5
Instead of 6
Per minute
What are you using those batteries for....
I'm at full production and I'm consuming 9 a min.
honestly im just trying to stockpile xiranite components
ill stop doing this in like a week or so when i get 30k
I stopped at like 9k.
You could delete one of your wuling bp
So you see I forgot to connect sandleaf to my capsul farm so now my capsul is like 0 yield
i forgot what bp stands for
Blueprint
tho i dont think i can get much more gear than thi
I feel like you should balance your Xiranite usage.
I just hate the fact that one unloader eat 30/m
You probably still want to buy the discount artificers that resets weekly.
So having some battery to sell helps.
why am i out of xiranite-
Otherwise with just gears you're stuck with components and no artificers anyway.
You hook your skyforge
One of your skyforge isn't working right.
To a loader
Can someone explain this to me, I get the basics but I want to learn more about it
omfg
I mean what part do you not understand?
Its for my D.I.G.E. setup in wuling
i hate this
what can you tell me about variance, min batt, and such
1.50 per minute?
Why not connect it to aic
...yes?
Thats the constand burn of a 40 second thermal battery
If you dont vary it at all
too far and im using it
anyway problem solved
is it normal if my hc battery usage go up and down between 6/min and 9/min? thats a pretty big jump from 6 imo
ill probably do some hyperefficient mindgames when we get more wuling mines
1 battery burn for 10 sec?
in an ideal world xiranite would be 1 per second so we can sweat it
I am actually in delusion here
I am using hc valley battery
Soo i can keep all that sweet wuling battery
For 12
If one meta transfer can transfer 30 battery for one hour
And 1 battery burn for 10
Unless you're importing batteries manually that won't help much.
Cap thermal thou
Can store 50 battery
1 battery burn = 10 sec
Or is it 40 sec?
40 sec.
40 x 50?
But how are you going to get 50 batteries there in the first place. Manual transfer.

Yes
they shouldve made those bottles out of originium i dont care about oripathy
Only first time i think
50 batteries runs out in like 33 mins 20 sec.
For a full hour you need 90 batteries.
Haaah
3600 seconds in an hour, 1 battery used every 40 seconds.
3600/40 = 90.
Just run a line that feeds in batteries every 80s or so.
Talking to yourself…
Shaddap.
so both?
(my bad i accidentally)
technically speaking u dont have to be running batteries 100% of the time
You can fully drain stock bills and still have leftover batteries.
Optimizing you can probably run with 1 thermal bank.
u get some downtime with the emergency backup
my current power setup is to use SC valley bats to power my AICs and use Wuling bats to trade
1 thermal is kind of hard especially if you have a lot of ziplines and the farm.
Just run 3 battery factories
I have 40 in wuling city....
That the problem
If you try to make battery
In wuling
I mean ferrium battery
Of wuling 2 is fine then
You jave to shutdown jincao or yahzen bp
I'm running at 1.71k.
But I turned off two farms that already maxed out production.
im gonna run out arent i?
If I turn them on it's 1.79
800 power
Eventually yeah.
Not sure. I cant read.
Im runing 1 wuling batt rn and im at 6k power
But it seems like you're missing some Ferrium mines.
Should check if everything is powered.
One wulling can generate 1600 power
6k you making nukes?
wuling: were almost out of our xiranite reserves we need ur aic factories to mass produce them!!!!
Endmin:
endmin: makes fertilizer
See 6k wuling in one side orinium power in the other


You're wasting a lot of batteries....
All those power
Wuling needs to be protected
You're only using 1k but producing 6k. You could probably run everything on one HC battery/Wuling Battery.
holy man, you're wasting so much
BECAUSE I ONLY NEED TO POWER 2 THERMAL BANKS

I bet your wuling battery usage is high
What a steel!
You do you, over my electricity tax bracket.
If you run max ziplines and turrets.. you sit around 2.4k power.
12/m
I don't run turrets so yeah.
When I expand my depot Ill have two wuling batt makers
If your turrets aren't shooting 24/7, just put batteries in them. Saves more power.
with no downtime
Mhhh True
GUYS IM SAVED
12/m minus 10/m
If you feed 2 battery
If you stop using protocol stashes you save a bit more.
10/m battery per minute is actually quite good
getting excess in bat for wuling I should start making liquid xeranite to flood wulig KEKW
Wuling: “WERE RUNNING OUT OF XIRANITE AND HAD TO CUT OFF SOME PARTS OF THE ARRAY! PLEASE HELP US WITH YOUR AIC FACTORY ENDMIN!!”
Also Wuling: “No stupid you can’t make more then two of those forges, think about the market value! Idiot..”
And if you import ferrium parts instead of ferrium and get rid of one ferrium part line, you save like another 200 power.
So getting under 1800 isn't that difficult.
ah yes typical capitalist corpo greed.
We need more ferrium mine 
guess why zhuang got sucha large office (

Soon my wuling city will be able to run ai centers with 6k power
omg the feeling
And why its all made out of xiranite..
I mean obviously the reason for the forge limit is gameplay, but i assume the lore reason isn't like, permits, but something about the advanced tech in them
Though they don't give a reason yet
not enough, u need more than that to run AI slop.
I was actually testing
If you can run Xyranite water on thermal
You're right I need 3 wuling battery factories and 10 thermal banks to get 20k power
Yeah its gameplay, however, its incredibly more funny to think of it as capitalistic greed, that they don’t let us make too much of it
But thermal have no pipe
Someone's really power hungry.
Sorry i needed to charge they phone
i shall tax the people
It doesn't work
Trying to use liquid xiranite in place of a xiranite battery is like trying to pour battery acid in your remote instead of AA batteries lol
make a problem, give them solution, tax them for helping them. profit.
the money must flow

Stonks
I wonder if there is other hidden purpose of stabilised carbon
When your stocks are too stonks. 
no monopolies
or smt
once the limit becomes like 6 not even lady tianshen or whatever can save the economy
I can use carbon as replacement for delivery stuff?
im flooding the market
Pov: you can now pay pal perlica 30k
also the xiranite default bp sucks
I'm assuming in the future they probably won't let you have more forges but instead have more efficient and faster but more complex recipes for xiranite
sandleaf for delivery stuff if possible kekw
Yeah but it 1:1 ratio
I've used none of the default blueprints
not really that a problem just make more sandleaf XD
Lol so it doesn't even run the full 30/m per forge?
Same. Making your own is more fun.
That's lmao
But you trying to decrease power consumption here
yea
it outputs 2 lines
should output*
simple fix but ive ran that weeks for now without realizing
really much dont care about power. I have so many batteries that even I use to delivery it. I still have excess. but if you really want then the highest mid tier mats can do it.
So stonks
I wonder if it's intentionally bad to reward players who make their own ratio'd design (or get bps from other people
assuming the devs create the blueprints id say they just didnt think of the hyperoptimizing we schizos do
We makin nothing 🗣️
Making a build that runs at 100% capacity instead of 50% is hardly "hyperoptimizing" 
yea but i dont think they think of it with the outputs and stuff
dammit, I really need to divert my xiranite to liquied I have so many batteries KEKW
its simple
Hyperoptimizing is probably those who really calculate and manage excess battery consumption.
just follow the production line for carbon and then feed that
Hyperoptimization are the peeps doing PWMs to save a couple batteries
4 yahzen syringer per min?
Ill probably start optimizing my batteries when I upgrade my depot with the yezhen syringes
It's cool, but why go through all the trouble instead of just turning off turrets and taking out protocol stashes.

I'll optimize batteries when i can make more than 60/m xiranite
I don't think Ive gotten to making xiranite yet
i used blueprints for my valley farm but i swear on my mama i wont do it for wuling
slide some
I wonder if it more optimize
Stonks
4 to 5 average. I use regional transfer and get ferrium ore for like 25/m + 90/m in wuling so total of 115/m
oh shit i just realized u dont even need to connect ur sky forge lines to depot
thats probably why we have a limit on xiranite
imagine the horrors
Nah the wuling plants turn into twice the carbon and need one less building so they're far more efficient even with the water requirement
You can actually skip carbon
By making dense carbon with ground buck
tbh, wuling plants are not that good for xiranite cause they need 1 pump for 2 lines, that's 10 energy and extra piping
though you get 1 less planter, i forgot that
2 i mean
wuling plants are weird man
how do we make
But battery optimisation right now yields highest results, later on it won't be worth it at all
liquid xiranite
I just use jincao to make carbon
why are there so many plants in my factory game
Cause your a farmer endmin
xiranite + water
I mean maxed factory won't even need optimised batteries

its called end field, the field are for farms
It also isn't needed right now since even using 2 thermal banks full time in wuling will bankrupt the stockade
eh I thought valley 4 plants uses alot power cause you need extra planter thats like 20 power usage
Get some sleep guys
No.
Ye, you can mooch off some of the xiranite for other stuff tho
yep, i corrected myself just after
fill a ferrium bottle with liquid xiranite, froma fluid tank or straight from the reactor crucible
Not by much tho
Play the B/A modpack in Factorio if you think this is "too many" plants
My entire factory there runs on beans 🫘
Beans 🔥
let me finish space age first, i'm so slow
Grass
damn 🙁
We need a bean farm in this game
thousands of hours on factorio, but somehow i'm taking ages with sa
Ong
Banished to Gleba
Speaking of Gleba they should add spoilage to Endfield 
nooooooooooooooooo
Make xiranite batteries spoil in the depot it'll be hilarious
Spoilage? Fertilizers?
no it just summons angelois in your base
so you have to start building defenses inside
spoilage in factorio is basically converting your useful things into shit
efficiency
so, not wrong on fertilizer
Make it so you can't throw xiranite batteries away; you have to recycle it
I did that in factorio space age since you need biter and pentapod eggs for some stuff so i just lined my assembly area with a shitload of laser turrets
imagine that making fertilizers becomes the end goal in wuling
if you havent played gleba 10% spoilage, you havent played gleba
Imagine having to capture burdenbeasts to automate burdo muck collection
Factory goals
Next update they should add a plumbing system. More fertilizer 💀
We're getting animal pens next
mountain dew farm soon
Everyone needs waste disposal ong
liquid shit into sprinklers

imma fill my drone with toxic industrial waste
we better get out of this sandleaf meta soon ngl
@analog elbow still got that pylon lying around in dijiang?
Liquid shit meta
i forgot this existed lol
I ignored those in valley and had to use crate detectors to find them 
Jincao is Chinese mountain dew
not real mountain dew until they add the pinch of burden beast poo in it
I am trying
To turn poo into carbon
now i'm only missing 1 chest
How do you pronounce jincao btw? Is it jin-caaw or jiin-cayow?
i was missing 2 and ran out of scanners, but figured out the zones the prior scanners didn't touch yet, so i found that
A pool of xyranite can heal you
let's hope i find the last one
Ima turn into the joker 
How many xiranite can Forge make maximum per hr?
30/m per one forge?
jin-ka-oh
Nope. It finally rest
2 forge 60/m
I've got disposed stuff in different locations I Don't even remember
cannot speed things up? How can I speed up for my 70 gears 🙁

chat is this bait?
you go to sleep
You could..
sacrifice one battery line for gear 
Go for it
PUMP IT
Ah Ive been misprounouncing it wrong
its super bait but will you bite?
Ya I didn't get any 6 star sed
6 battery per minute 🥀
Do we know next cycle banners?
not yet
no fucking shot 
Rossi is 6 star and tang tang is 5 star
I need zhuang fangyi and Mi Fu
Yas
(if mi fu is ever gonna be playable)
I just realized that xiranite doesn't depend on ore, so technically we can scale xiranite production indefinitely if fangyi doesn't limit our forges

there's water but plenty still
Zhuang is true limited
There's unlimited water idk why we don't get more forges commissioned
Question thou
Idk if they include zhuang
Next
But if we have 3 banner char
endmin gonna build a xiranite space station within days
In first run

Multi banner ayyyyy noooo
its pronounced cao like you're making a tsk sound but im not sure how to articulate it in english so imma let google translate do it:
https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=锦草&op=translate
Google's service, offered free of charge, instantly translates words, phrases, and web pages between English and over 100 other languages.
Ong, xiranite orbital lasers too
wtf...
Real 
they wont be in the standard for sure
To lose 50/50
They still carry over in limited?
added to standard
They won't
after 4 months?
yo anyone got a wuling blueprint for 11 battery 0.5 gear mats?
how do i make an efficient factory, as in like general rules
i’d like to try to make it myself instead of just copy pasting blueprints since it’s fun to fiddle around with how the whole thing works
chartered is just a rotating banner for 3 months
Thank you so much bros. Mandarine is hard for me
uh how important is gil sig
Just get input and output ratios right, one sandleaf gives 3 powder when shredded so shredder needs 3 output belts. Bottles need 2 refined ferrium iirc so have them connected to two refiners
not very important
the wiki has the names of stuff in mandarin as well, you can just copy the text into google translate and have it read it back
A buff character can buff your dmg
its quite reliable in that regard
now i find it funny that i got lae, yvonne and gilberta in this order in 110 pulls
because uh...
im still upset about yvonne tho
Laev already has Yvonne and Gilberta as offrate then switching around till being replaced after 3 months. So it's a quarterly thing.
I need that stuff too
I was thinking
What if the dev want us to pull on limited banner
yo anyone got a wuling blueprint for 11 battery 0.5 gear mats?
chat is there a way to not deplete your ferrium ore resource in Wuling without sacrifing wuling medicine production efficiency?
But it happens
region?
i guess a true limited will be on a half year and anniv.
eu/murica
I get last rite on lae banner
same
Nope...
oh iI guess mine was Ember and Last was on selector
No, efficiency would have to go down to get ferrium production > usage
And i think again why last rite appears in lae banner
its not an intuitive language for sure
When she on standard banner
They will probably hand out selector for 0.5 celeb
im in asia, i cant provide blueprint but if you want how to divide the belt, i can show you the image
im down to make the thing by hand, i'll gladly accept the image
They're still on the list
Pernounciation is fine for me since english isnt my first language but reading is hard
ok gimme a minute i'll go in game
I dun mind losing to yvonne
ty ty
is yvonne actually good...?
oh yea for sure, i always thought its a dumb language because you cant actually read the word based on how its written
Shaw
shaw
She has good rear
you're telling me she's ass?
and as for pathing you should try to minimize as much distance as possible?
and what about knowing what’s priority to create? unless if there’s a way to jam in everything ofc
Her damage is second to laevantein
wb lr
ah ok
Nah i am just saying she is good if you don't have last rite
omfg learning all of the stuff in this game makes me wanna replay death stranding this is really cool
Gilberta is needed
Yea minimise belt length, just pack in everything as close together as possible. For production wuling has only wuling batteries and meds so that, for valley you need HC batteries and citrome/buckleaf med A
aah i see
i got all 3, i'll just forget yvonne exist and focus on gil/lae/lr
for 2 diff comps
depends on what you're making. if the end product takes like 1-2s to complete then yes the belt should be shorter but if it takes like 10s to make you can get away with longer belts
ice and lae
Also optimal final layout for valley is 18 HC, 18 med A, 24 med C, that'll leave you 20 extra originium per min which you can use for powder and origocrust
Would it be possible to split the belt
And have them eat 5 output as same time
splitting your belts splits your input
so no
you're not inputting it any faster than if you were to just feed it a single belt
When your factory is running perpetually the belts don't really matter outside from the plant -> seed loop.
What if you use storage depot
As output
And split it into 3
Turn off eifi
Wifi
Hey do anyone have a blue print for making bombs? For sub factory
Which server?
Asia
you are still putting stuff in at a 1:1 ratio so splitting the output will just split your 1:1 into 0.333333:1 sooo
Bombs huh...
Bombs are easy tho
depends how many bombs you want
Yes but i want unlimited bombs factory
we only do max bomb factory
is 90/min is currently max yield for ferrium ore in wuling? or am i missing some mineral bed here
That's max yeah. But you can get more from metatransfer.
Make a planting loop for the aketine flower or whatever, shred the output, then add an unloader for amethyst ore, put it through a refining unit and then a fitting unit, combine amethyst parts and aketine powder in the packaging unit, bombs
U ned alkatine farm and sandleaf
Well obviously, this is factory channel
Owh wait amythest
You don't need sandleaf for bombs
is that the one with 1500 items/hour? or dif kind of transfer
yes from wuling itself, you also can metatransfer 1500/hour to +15/min the yield
That one.
Amythest
ah aight
Yeah just plain amethyst parts, no sandleaf
still not enough ferrium tho 
Sandleaf + amethyst makes crypton which isn't needed for bombs
Sandleaf is just there for emotional support 
Well thats the norm
You can automate bombs the moment you unlock the packaging plant while still in valley pass 
@hard phoenix this should be good
11 batt / 0.5 component
55 xiranite : 5 xiranite
make 1 normal battery plant
this image is the 2nd battery plant
takes 25 xiranite, with 75 dense orig.
gearing takes 5 xiranite, 5 packed origocrust
25:5 is 5/6th vs 1/6th of belt
DENSE ORIG PLANT:
since the plant needs 75 orig, 2 are full prod (60) 1 is in 2/3 prod (20), then shares 15+5 to battery plant and gearing
10 originium is returned to depot
im tryna run both syringe and jincao production lines
ty ty!
I find it funny bomb increase capacity
an easier way to visualise is this: with bottles you need 2 of any base material (ferrium, amethyst)
if you input 1 ore it makes 1 material from the refining unit
if you connect 2 outputs to the refining unit if will sequentially output from the belts
it may look like you're providing more output, but ultimately you have to wait for belt 1 to finish processing before going to belt 2, effectively halving your output for belt 1
if both belts go into the same molding unit then you've effectively havent improved upon anything except use more belts 
Yeah thats about as much usage you're gonna use
im too lazy to move ferrium around so i made the usage to match
Are you running yezhen too?
There is unfortunately a lack of ferrum in wuling
I just didn't bother and let the usage be 120/m and shrimply don't care it runs slightly slow
the syringe yea
Oof thats why
What if i connect 1 to make steel part and other to make bottle
wuling city gon miss my jincao drink
Idk thou
You wanna do a fancy double production line?
I cannot make 6

then you're halving the efficiency of both
u can do that?!
You really don't need to make both

das?
I just dragged out the belt so you can see that it's alternating.
yeah but i also don't care it's 5.75/min instead of 6 and it's easy to do just split ores from 1 output
Your crucible doesn't clogged?
it take 1 steel to make 1 steel part, so if you are diverting the steel to make bottles it means every other steel producing cycle it makes 1 steel part instead of having steel part made every cycle
the greed consumes me, could run only one of em and get 6/min
and i ended up with 4/min

that's all there is? where does the xiranite come from?
This is what you could've been
did you balanced the molding and ferrium parts? how do you balance the slow production of that first refining
i just made it only have 115 ore per min, didn't balance anything else
It's possible.
from the unloader. lmao depot bus gaming
rn i got buckcapsule A farm (6/min) and HC valley battery farm (4.5/min) for money. I also got ametyhist part, ferrium part, origicrust and carbon factory is there any more i whould need?
oh you're making the xiranite on the other factory?
...
Like for a maxed Valley IV? 18/m buck A and 18/m HC battery
What is this witchcraft
yes
And then you can do whatever you want with the amethyst
that's too much thinking for my feeble brain
Im looking closer at this how the-
you got a blueprint for that? ;-;
oop wrong reply
but you need to balance it. since one will be slightly faster. if that 25+30 refining is for molding then that will become slower than ferrium
whould that be good? but will i be able to fit stuff like origicrust ferrium part and other stuff so i can make more machines
How did you alternate them?
idk the yield doesnt show decimal so i can't tell
I wonder
what in the converger belt sorcery is going on here
If your production is 1
2 things you need.
0. Make sure all your factory is empty.
- Put 5 seeds of one plant in one planter, then 5 plants in the seeder, so they will alternate every 5 seeds.
- Use converger for both output in crucible so when it finishes 5 liquid of Jincao it'll switch to Yazhen automatically.
That's pretty much it.
here, for xiranite (blue for water supply)
Can it dash out two part st same time?
tysm
You can "fit" them yes, don't worry about the parts costing resources though since once the depot fills up with 'em they won't take up resources for other stuff
You also need to split one line of the shredder dust out though because it messes with the ratio.
you mean 2 ores?
Yes
no it will clog twice as fast because the refiner only makes 1 steel at a time
or part or whatever
but i dont have power plateu yet but i got max size in refugee camp, main AIC and science park
Well this is for a "maxed" v4 so it's a goal to work towards 
doesnt matter
the refiner only makes 1 part at a time
This is black magic sorcery
It's cool right.
for it to output to 2 belts efficiently it has to make 2 output items

what about power production? how will i get power if i sell the batteries?
Fr tho
That's what happen when you have nothing else to do end game. 
Still cannot figure out why moulding need 2 refiner thiu
And you cannot just connect 2 belt
From one refiner
because if the 25/min + 30/min refiner combines to a molding unit, the bottle is equalized to 27.5/min of production. which is equal to 5.5/min of syringe only
Quick tip: if a building needs 1 item every 2 seconds, it needs one belt of input.
If it needs 2 items every 2 seconds, it needs 2 belts if input.
If it needs 3 items every 2 seconds, it needs 3 belts of input.
The same is true for the output, i.e. if the building makes 2 items every 2 seconds it outputs 2 belts of that item.
because 1 refiner only makes 1 item
if you put 2 belts out of the refiner into 1 moulding unit
If a refinery only outputs 1 item every 2 seconds, it only outputs 1 belt of that item. If you put 3 belts coming out of that refinery, each of those belts will only be 1/3rd utilized.
you're not producing steel/ferrium/amethyst any faster than if you were putting 1 belt
the it's 25/min 30/min for fitting and moulding gets 60
So you can still make 1 bottle with 1 refiner?
at half the efficiency yes
Similarly if the refinery only needs 1 item every 2 seconds, if you try to add more belts of input, the refinery will just clog cuz it can't accept that many items
Moulding units need 2 items per 2 seconds to make 1 bottle per 2 second, so they need 2 belts of input to make 1 belt of bottles 
means, the fitting unit arrives at 55/min (instead of 60)
55 divide 60, times 6 (syringe) = 5.5/min
1 refiner -> 1 moulding = 1 bottle every 4s because it takes 2 seconds to make 1 steel, and you need 2 steel
2 refiner -> 1 moulding = 1 bottle every 2s
i cheked how max valley 4 was but its basicly using all space in valley 4 to make as much money as possible? but are you supposed to use your HC batteries in thermal banks or not??
If you optimized V4 factory you're probably producing way more stuff than you can sell.
So yeah, go ahead and use those HC batteries,.
yup what youre saying makes sense, will look into it
you can use them and still net profit off selling the batteries
Sandleaf make 3 powder right?
You should use them yes
If you make the full 18/m buck A and HC batteries you will use about 7.5/m of those batteries just to power your base, but you'll still make enough excess to fully buy out all 3 outposts
in fact i think ive built up a buffer than i can sell out the outposts solely with buck capsule A
Pro : compact and 60/min xaranite, 13/min wu battery
Con : Originium shortage with 360 yied
yes but that's because specifically sandleaf makes 3 powder per sandleaf
ok and there are still some space left for other stuff right?
Intructions unclear, I now can power all of talos ll
If you're efficient with your space yes
The lion does not balance the ratios before submitting his BP
so in that scenario, yes you can put 3 belts out of a sandleaf shredder
Can you hook 1 sandleaf to 1 shredder and have 3 belt
then i think i can build one myself
"yo why does this bp use the whole maxed out core aic to make batteries at 3/min"
Yes
Now you're getting it
Since the shredder needs 1 sandleaf every 2 seconds to make 3 powder every 2 seconds, that's 1 belt of sandleaf turning into 3 belts of powder 
Belts move 30 items per minute, to be clear
The lion ensures one ratio is inbalanced so you come back to a 0% energy factory
And i recommend just converting most of the factory stuff to "amount of belts" which is just "multiples of 30 per minute" tbh
The lion does not concern himself with electric bills 
The lion was eaten by chen
Tang tang is not a lion

you can do something like this.
the refiners go 27.5 | 30 | 27.5 | 30
rightmost belt removes 5/min, sent back to depot
Perlica, Wire $1 million to the electrical union to shut the peasants up about murdering the entire electrical grid for 2 extra hc per minute.
Chen still gonna eat tangtang uwu
that aint no lion that's a snake
Witchcraft
This game is bad because i cant fire anyone that disagrees with me despite being the edministrator
I still think it's funny even in the middle of settlements with electricity we still have to run our own relay towers to power our stuff
Like why are they letting me plant power poles in the middle of the wheelchair ramps in Wuling City instead of letting me plug the zipline in somewhere
compact version (rebalances after refining)
im still lowkey in the idea that wuling is just a pro-china psy-op but i cant explain it without sounding like a tinfoil hatter
I'm gonna fill fangyi's office with marsh gas towers
This is 115
yeah, both
tried
And i assume it use meta storage
I was thought that reduce flow rate will be bad
for now im removing 1.25 per deput unloader to see if that works out. but thanks will try that out if it fails
If i had it my way, Refugee camp would have been turned into a prison sweatshop
I mean the devs are Chinese so i won't fault them too much if the Chinese location is better realized 
Also it is the technological hub of the planet
And tbf IRL China was known for a lot of incredible scientific breakthroughs
Why not just transfer steel part
exactly its alot of pro-china-supremacy soft propaganda
Less efficient believe it or not
cope weapon 
I'm gonna be shocked if Shandong collab with Endfield
like holy shit look at these savages in v4 having to run actual cables
Much like china, i found out that starving my entire factory to make more HC batteries does not result in infinite money and just results in a region blackout
and then you have wifi towers in wuling
woww what team is xaihi with
just pull the weapon without the operator 
Alternatively since the UWST was made by Ursus the Russia analogue maybe they just don't like Russia 
My western v4 cant affor bluetooth
nuke rite
Give us the equivalent of Columbia, right now
Can't wait until we visit a Columbian colony and it's all guns and burgers
Arknights canceled 
Solar panels when?
GIVE US THE SANKTA RIFLES
The equivalent of Columbia when Arknights already has Columbia as the USA equivalent 
wait, trueee
the water drone gets upgraded with a machine gun and hellfire missiles

if i had a dollar for every gacha game that has a not-china region that's somehow more advanced than the starting area, i'd have at least 2 dollars which isnt much damn they're overusing this trope
I just want a gun op that isn't doing gun kata with dual pistols
All this tech and they still haven't made a tech harvesting the power of the sun 💀
🥀
Which is faster refinery connect to loader or depot stash?
exusiai on 1st anni trust
2 words: apple pie 

Perlica is going to be the Whis to beerus in that endmin is going to request some plan thats going to cause mass ecological damage and put generations into debt slavery and all Perlica is going to do is call me a genius and say right away endmin
I can't wait till I see saria making empinadas in the outpost of columbia

explosions
Yknow since we're Endfield we should hire Ambriel since she used an Enfield 
Lol what
Lmao
This'll fix their birthrates
"Perlica, The buck capsule prices for the infra base are too low, Cut the power to their defenses and call a incursion attack in"
"Right away endministrator"'
its like a thing in korea apparently
they just have random apparel brands made by like big american corpos
tjat dont typically do apparel
Can AIC make it
Lookin like a sleeping bag he ain't too happy 
Endfield artists i beg for the ai whis face to be replaced with perlica
Very important to the lore
No
Belts move 30 items per second and you're not increasing that number at all
Korea surprisingly gets really hot. Enought to melt seatbelts and asphalt
No but im going to design my base around that just to give people a anurysm when i upload the blueprint
I do it for the love of the game.
where can i find this super tungsten belt that moves 30 items per second
Sorry that's on Vulcanus 
just grind your belts with sandleaf
sandleaf makes everything better
my peak return belt
Also it's 60/s 
braid

why is there a converger at the end
Belt spaghetti has become belt basketweaving
oh its just to make it symmetrical
good luck inserting it in the unloader lmaooo
What perlica sees when I converted Endfield Industries into an American Military Industrial Complex:
rhodagn when
Imagine a long zigzag of xyranite
My factory has really long belts but they're not fancy.
Why yes i WILL be using belt bridges and splitters
Maybe I need to fix that.
Lowered production is just a mindset
M1 Abrams and Leopard 2K when
but ardelia hits like truck-kun
unfortunately Endfield vehicle technology was lost when our only bike crashed
Endmin took the bike for a drunk driving test and proceeded to crash into the wuling biology science complex
rate my pipes
Texas instruments 🔥
Raythean
wasn’t blacksteel a thing in og ak
why so many meth labs
wait, Raytheon
What do I start building after unlocking sand leaf?
need to get output to 3/s
BAE Systems, Rhinemetall
yes i’m trying to fill the 40k pool back up
THAT'S AUSSIES
it can only use 2/3 of the capacity, the other 1/3 is for manual input only
hope the peak MIC in og ak make it's way into endfield

gib firearms cat
we gonna be in debt in the future if those were to actually collab
1.3 trill down in the drain
also if there is a splitter anywhere in the pipeline, it will reduce it to 1 no matter what
Endfield devs plz add stock market

