aic-factory

[olive basalt]

i used one pump for the forge

[fringe summit]

liquid xirate is doing great

[olive basalt]

then i used another pump to extend it to the crucible

[shrewd knoll]

thats perfectly fine too

[fringe summit]

ya that's fine

[olive basalt]

so in this pipeline, this is the ONLY split

[craggy pawn]

👏 👏 🔥

[fringe summit]

ye that shouldnt break

[nova lodge]

cryston bottled , feeling fancy :3

[shrewd knoll]

until you double fusion at crucible if you decide to do that

then you need a merged pipe

[fringe summit]

double fusion crucible is kinda complicated and not needed atm

[storm garnet]

help, my protocol capacity is struggling after making 2 south to north routes on wuling city

[shrewd knoll]

nah its easy

[storm garnet]

dev, give me more playground

[fringe summit]

but once you get to that you should be familiar enough with building that it shouldnt matter

[nova lodge]

more like not enuff ferrium :3

[fringe summit]

it's not hard but it's not friendly either

[olive basalt]

do i need that?

[nova lodge]

^ for future consideration, not now.

[fringe summit]

do you want to make xirates

[shrewd knoll]

double fusion with one farm

at 50% capacity

[fringe summit]

nah bro that setup ugly

sec

lemme grab my duocore

[storm garnet]

time to pipe from aic to the courtyard to fill those 40k...

[olive basalt]

oh wait yeah i need liquid xiranite for exploration, smh

[shrewd knoll]

its going to be ugly because of how the pipes are fixed to one direction

[craggy pawn]

I haven’t even started wuling AIC factory yet 😭✌️

[fringe summit]

this is the true beauty of double reaction

[craggy pawn]

✨ i need that

[fringe summit]

you basically cook yazhen and jincao on both

then you end up with 2/s for both jincao and yazhen

[nova lodge]

1 part cooking xiranite liquid instead....cross contamination :3

[shrewd knoll]

it just uses more power

[fringe summit]

this is accomplished by trading the finished products to the other crucible and puke out a 2/s pipe instead of a 1/s pipe

[analog elbow]

Wtf why is that so close to each other

[fringe summit]

but anyway it's excessive and not needed atm

maybe after wuling update ye

[shrewd knoll]

that requires too much ferrium to operate right now

[fringe summit]

^

we don't even have enough ferrium to sport a full line of yazhen/jincao C drug

[nova lodge]

welcome to wulling.

[storm garnet]

my food is split 3/min each at the same time, it's the best way

[olive basalt]

Bro its so funny how i made such an organized factory but im struggling at PIPES

[storm garnet]

wut

[fringe summit]

trim your garbo

[olive basalt]

😭 🥀 🥀

[analog elbow]

your ziplines

[storm garnet]

i did actually lol

i would be like 500 if i didn't

[nova lodge]

yeah...that ziplines is not normal, i presume they are 80 meter ver?

[fringe summit]

this is my line

then the rando 1 offs

[shrewd knoll]

you dont need that much ziplines in the center street

[fringe summit]

I did because I can

[storm garnet]

are you talking about some ziplines not being 110m distance? that's cause terrain block them

[shrewd knoll]

you can place 1 near TP sluice gate, next sluice gate, and then the overwalk

[fringe summit]

[shrewd knoll]

110m from each other exactly

[analog elbow]

not that particularly. but the routes

[fringe summit]

I can optimize it

but I'm too lazy to

it's functional for daily deliveries

you only need to touch the 3 delivery points

[analog elbow]

that's like I don't even want to walk anymore ziplines

[storm garnet]

you are missing a route to deliver to the farm up north

[storm garnet]

well, duh

[storm garnet]

why use ziplines if you plan to walk

[fringe summit]

I don't visit that often but ye good point

[shrewd knoll]

no the very north one

near the 2 growth spots

[analog elbow]

yeah but like stopping points

[fringe summit]

oh

[proper ravine]

hang on, i just realised that the metastorage doesnt take the items out of valley 4 bank, and sends the units over even if you have none in v4. Duplicating items anyone?

[fringe summit]

these?

[fringe summit]

never bothered to opti that one ye, how did you set yours

[storm garnet]

i mean here

that's a delivery

[analog elbow]

yea

[fringe summit]

never got a req there, good to know I guess

[nova lodge]

how do i even make those blue arrow appear on my map for ziplines O.o?

[storm garnet]

ah, you mean going to some extra tps

well, that's just in case

if i can, why not

[fringe summit]

soonge

[shrewd knoll]

go on the zipline and press R when selecting next one

[fringe summit]

just finished pumping out the yazhen the other day

[storm garnet]

i modified some ziplines on the west according to this video, but i still wanted to be close to the tpshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUy-duapeG8

[somber briar]

Is there a reward difference between transferring my delivery and doing it myself?

[storm garnet]

as long as it connects, that's fine

[fringe summit]

no

transferring is better, you always get full reward

as long as someone accept it

[shrewd knoll]

yes, i've had some nasty players just teleport to point on wuling deliveries lol

netting me like 60% instead

[fringe summit]

you should prob do the science park yourself tho since nobody accepts those these days

[storm garnet]

actually, transferring has a risk. the risk of people being assholes and tping

[somber briar]

By that logic everyone should transfer their wuling delivery?

[fringe summit]

ye I do that

[storm garnet]

boo

[craggy pawn]

Good thing it hasn’t happened to me yet and i hope it doesn’t happen to me

[shrewd knoll]

transferring is more logical except for science center

since that one may never get done now

[somber briar]

Yea science i get it

[nova lodge]

ah got it, thank you.
though....i need to mark every zipline on the way O.O;;;;;

[storm garnet]

it happened like twice already to me when i get that farm delivery, and another with the monitoring place

[somber briar]

Got an experience with waiting a week until it finally done

[shrewd knoll]

its 3 days max

and its gone

people transfer up to 4 but can only take 3, theres a deficit in amazon delivery drivers

[fringe summit]

my last science park took like 3 whole day before someone cleared it

[storm garnet]

but you lose like 10k, not big deal. still annoying though

[fringe summit]

so ye I just do them myself now

[craggy pawn]

10k still a big difference

[fringe summit]

[shrewd knoll]

yea those are not going to get done anytime soon lol

[storm garnet]

they probably won't ever get picked lol

[shrewd knoll]

unless you get lucky

thats why do your own science center one

[storm garnet]

tbh, i was lucky until now, they got all picked in 1 day max

[fringe summit]

still a decent amount of newbie influx

[storm garnet]

but yea, i won't share park ever again

[fringe summit]

but eventually you'll need to do your own origin lodespring too

[craggy pawn]

I only accept 177k to 200k above deliveries

[fringe summit]

I only accept wulings

[nova lodge]

[storm garnet]

i try to get only wulings, but sometimes i want some quick valley cash

[nova lodge]

gimme some :v

[storm garnet]

but that's if i even bother to do them

[craggy pawn]

I need to do wuling’s I haven’t developed wuling’s factories yet

I need to somehow finish develop all of valley IV’s factories and outposts first

[fringe summit]

true endgame

[shrewd knoll]

but ardelia and gilberta is bad synergy

[storm garnet]

true endgame is encoding ratios with splitters and mergers

[shrewd knoll]

[fringe summit]

that's the waifu team to run around with

[fringe summit]

that's the pwm in the bg

[proper ravine]

Apparently we can legally dupe things

[craggy pawn]

I need to use splitters and merges I haven’t even used them

[craggy pawn]

WHAT

[fringe summit]

ye we've been doing that

[shrewd knoll]

you are transferring from stockpile though

thats not metastorage

[nova lodge]

hack found....for those without enuff probiotic ginseng

[fringe summit]

you generate items out of thinair

[storm garnet]

yep, meta is free items from out of thin air

[fringe summit]

with meta

[nova lodge]

oh, its not meta storage there.

[fringe summit]

https://tenor.com/view/meta-marvel-future-revolution-marvel-future-fight-netmarble-king-tron-gif-25997414

[analog elbow]

these are mine. it has some niche spots

[nova lodge]

facebook duping things indeed.

[proper ravine]

it only needs to be meta at the source

[analog elbow]

**Is mark a robot? **

[nova lodge]

he is the AI

[fringe summit]

alien, get it right

[proper ravine]

clearly a lizard

[craggy pawn]

And i need to build ziplines.. in valley IV and wuling..

[fringe summit]

he's trained in the ways of the druid

[shrewd knoll]

no one goes through field logistic office?

[analog elbow]

i know someone. but forgot who

[shrewd knoll]

theres a sweet spot

[fringe summit]

I'm lazy so

[vapid dock]

damn, the clue 7 wasnt a meme

[shrewd knoll]

but yea it does have a lot of damn bamboo blockage

[storm garnet]

south btw

[shrewd knoll]

thats a bit far from the depot to walk for me

[analog elbow]

nah

there's one on the dpot

just hidden behind the icon

[shrewd knoll]

oh but that short transition

[analog elbow]

yeah

[shrewd knoll]

[analog elbow]

there's a spot for a 100 meter zipline from depot to Field Logistic Office

[craggy pawn]

What exploration level do you think is the best for the world

[storm garnet]

i might put a zipline just above right at the end of the riverbank grotto, so i can put a zipline right at the tp

[shrewd knoll]

its better to short transition at the next TP since thats marignally useful

when you gather the resources

[storm garnet]

but then i have to line the zipline on the gather node above too

[lone surge]

there's 7 spot you can gather redjade

sorry out of topic, it's just yesterday i felt hurt someone gatekeeping redjade spot he found

in here

[storm garnet]

btw, long ago i was searching a way to cut through the pilars and end up east of the aic, but had to go through the city, you managed to get midway, that's neat

[crude nebula]

We need the auto farming machine for ginseng in wuling

[shrewd knoll]

they only spawn once a day though, they dont respawn like the fluff

[nova lodge]

is such a big amount of red jade even necessary?

[lone surge]

7 per day seems like a good amount

[analog elbow]

bro doesn't know the interactive map exists

[shrewd knoll]

at that point, just gather the 3 easy ones and then farm the rest

[lone surge]

yes, the food it made is very good

[shrewd knoll]

the others are way out of the map

too much walking

[lone surge]

does it grow in a day

[shrewd knoll]

it does

12 hours total

[lone surge]

what's the total slot farm in wuling

[shrewd knoll]

double if you fertilize

[storm garnet]

by the time i go to those spots, i could use 2 fertilizers from going to get some poop and get almost the same

[shrewd knoll]

but thats a hassle with the current forge of the sky setup

[nova lodge]

i know ginseng food is good....but is necessary to make that much O.O?

[lone surge]

is it the poo?

[storm garnet]

but both of those things are a waste of time

[crude nebula]

Do you guys put plant in manual farm, full of ginseng or combined with rice?

[shrewd knoll]

no the actual fertilizer

[lone surge]

oh thank god, i thought i have to collect poo

[storm garnet]

my farm is full of ginseng

[lone surge]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-not-laughing-flightreacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-not-laughing-gif-6356142083741775471

[analog elbow]

well i reorganized my zip lines 3 times already

[analog elbow]

tried to min max the distance

[storm garnet]

i only planted rice first to get the crafting menu rewards

[lone surge]

the poo

[analog elbow]

W

[crude nebula]

What's the effect?

[shrewd knoll]

if it was just the poo but you have to move the forge to do it

it just increase yield by 100%

[analog elbow]

I'd say just use The Poo alone

[shrewd knoll]

so 6 ginseng instead of 3

[craggy pawn]

Bai bai and gn

[analog elbow]

my xiranite is already getting monopolized by other stuff fr

[crude nebula]

I think i might replace my rice to fully utilize ginseng

[trim jetty]

Shitty idea

[storm garnet]

i have this weird shit to pretend i make fertilizer sometimes, but i'll probably make it elsewhere and just move the whole forge when i want to make it

[shrewd knoll]

farm isnt that bad, if you use your slaves to do it while hiding facilities

[storm garnet]

wait, that works?

[shrewd knoll]

yes it works

[storm garnet]

lol

[lusty robin]

Js did the quest and left and never came back✌️

[storm garnet]

i had to separate the sprinklers from the splitters by 1 pipe to make a bit of room

they still get stuck

[crude nebula]

But they wont start if not triggered by our action right?

[lusty robin]

What do u even get from this anyway?

[storm garnet]

you do 1 action, get another 3 for free

[shrewd knoll]

they dont get stuck

on sprinklers

or pipes

you cant interact with farm but they do all of them

so you need to do one farm and then hide them

[crude nebula]

But the are so slow to get triggered to work

[storm garnet]

oh, all of them lol

[fringe summit]

aight fixed my north

[storm garnet]

i'll try next time

[storm garnet]

wait, is that one in the middle on the floor level?

[fringe summit]

fixed farm too

[fringe summit]

the one near shrooms?

it's on the steps

[storm garnet]

you can make a route that goes from inside the aic, so you save on protocol and zipline count

[crude nebula]

Bruh, just walk from aic, why you need ziplines

[nova lodge]

lazy, must zipline everything

[fringe summit]

nah I got free space for protocols

[crude nebula]

[shrewd knoll]

there's this point too

[fringe summit]

I was using like 100 for turrets and funny stuffs

[shrewd knoll]

its possible to parkour up there

[storm garnet]

i barely got an available rout to the zipline above whilke putting it there

[shrewd knoll]

it does have a invisible wall

[fringe summit]

oh that's a cool spot

not needed for my route tho

[shrewd knoll]

entry point

might take a few tries

[storm garnet]

i might do that since it connects both the gather node and the delivery node from the aic

[shrewd knoll]

you need to float on top of the invisible wall

[storm garnet]

but not needed

[proper ravine]

Try this

[fringe summit]

like placing it here doesn't do anything for me

but cool spot tho

you'll still need one in tech prod office for delivery

[shrewd knoll]

just place that zipline inside your AIC

so it wont count towards the 40

[storm garnet]

i'm going to miss this view i barely viewed once but it's nice

[fringe summit]

but ugly zipline in aic

[storm garnet]

ok, where is the secrets of this spot

[shrewd knoll]

best view

[storm garnet]

any technique or just walk there?

[nova lodge]

ok....got it, basically i need to become jesus and float a bit to get in.

[shrewd knoll]

you need to do one battery jump

[shrewd knoll]

yup love those invisible wall jumps

[crimson inlet]

why are we teching like hl2 speedrunners

[storm garnet]

oh, right, i'm at 298 protocol, how do i even make that route if i dont want to destroy the old one too soon...

[fringe summit]

gotta be doom speedrunners instead

[crimson inlet]

This is some quake shit

[hollow drum]

tech specifically like TAS L4D2 Speedrunners

complete campaign in 2 seconds

[crimson inlet]

hell naw, 2 seconds

[shrewd knoll]

this is an alternative to this resource spot too in this cave, you just jump down

worth it

[hollow drum]

if you get .1 seconds over you get banned from running ever again

nah its not that fast but campaign in 5 minutes is still pretty crazy

[analog elbow]

literally

[hollow drum]

artificing is about to make me lose my mind

[analog elbow]

For me it goes under the core aic area to the production office

[crimson inlet]

That's easy sauce

ESSENCE FINDING

I HAVEN'T GOTTEN A SINGLE 3 SLOT ESSENCE, I GOT 2s

[analog elbow]

It's been lucky for me

[crimson inlet]

I got 10 2 slots essences

https://tenor.com/view/man-praying-black-man-praying-black-man-praying-and-crying-man-praying-and-crying-gif-23376408540985609

all of them don't have either twilight or attack boosts

[nova lodge]

me: essenses? whats that :3?

[hollow drum]

can i just quit the game and let my factory burn

[crimson inlet]

makes your damage from 3k to 6k

[analog elbow]

I got my Lava girl essence on the first try and artificing the entire gear max uses under 100 Catalyst

[hollow drum]

[analog elbow]

[storm garnet]

3 of my teammates already have a gold essence with 3 proper stats

[nova lodge]

too hard to farm and when i hadn't choosen my 6* weapon yet.

[sand pivot]

are the AIC reports even correct? like it keeps saying that I am using more of some things than I am getting then all of a sudden it goes back to normal, then back to deficit, etc...

[hollow drum]

and now im expo 7

[storm garnet]

i might be farming the wrong spot for the 4th teammate, i should check...

[hollow drum]

the actual data fluctuating is pretty normal, it can be caused by clogging too

*affected by

[analog elbow]

ready for battle and it went nah uh

[hollow drum]

like if your ore stocks are full bc youre not using them, the game reads it as you are "producing less"

bc the ores arent getting sent from your drills to storage

[storm garnet]

nah, it's fine

[sand pivot]

I have the looping machine to produce flowers and the seeds keep going into the negatives, then back to normal, then negative, etc...

[hollow drum]

180 sanity and i last used it over 24 hours ago

[analog elbow]

as long as you don't run out of materials you need it's good then

[sand pivot]

basically:

planter > seed picker (also connected to the planter behind it) > planter > stash

[analog elbow]

or 1 shredding unit for carbon

[hollow drum]

if your plants are full in the depot the same thing i explained with ores above happens too btw

i have negative buckflower number in production but i have been at max for 2 weeks lol

[sand pivot]

my ferrium is kinda cooked though, hoping I will get an outpost in lodespring because the other maps don't seem to have that much ferrium

[hollow drum]

lodespring and plateau basically only have ferrium

[fringe summit]

[hollow drum]

theres like one originium node

[sand pivot]

yeah I was just wondering cause I see some people trying to "fix their reports" but I am not even sure the reports are correctly 😅

[hollow drum]

i mean

[sand pivot]

also where should I spend my sanity early game (basically just got the chars and weapons to level 60)

[shrewd knoll]

just extend the report to 30 minutes instead of 10

the 10 one can fluctuate

[hollow drum]

the end goal isnt the yield/use of the ingredients but the end product

[fringe summit]

make sure all plantations are powered

[hollow drum]

like as long as you dont run out of ingredients overall you're good, i assume "fixing reports" means the end product they are aiming for and not whether they have 80k ores

[hollow drum]

probably character xp if i had to say

[fringe summit]

for plants, if you do it properly, you should never go into the neg or should they vary

[hollow drum]

to hoard before you get to some really intense levelling

[sand pivot]

yeah I mean I am maxed on plants, it's just the seeds number that keeps fluctuating which lead me to question if I built it right

[fringe summit]

if you're seeing a varied graph then your production line is broken somewhere

noone can help you but yourself for that

[fringe summit]

even if you cap your depot your seed shouldnt fluctuate because in the grander scheme of things they should stabilize

[crimson inlet]

You learn by playing and reading, if there's something wrong, go bottom to top

[fringe summit]

check the 2 hour graphs

those are the most telling ones

[fringe summit]

^pretty much

[hollow drum]

plants maxed = plants not being sent to depot = planters clogged = seeders clogged

[hollow drum]

thats like

normal logic since they work hand in hand

so

[fringe summit]

those look stable

[hollow drum]

yeah i think seeds being low is normal bc youre never sending them to the depot ideally?

[fringe summit]

your consumption is kinda all over the place though, try to optimize if you can to save on power, but you should progress story tho as long as your factory is functional for now

[sand pivot]

yeah that's what I am trying

[misty grotto]

Hmm

[sand pivot]

I can't really stabilize the production when I don't have access to other map resources (like ferrium)

[fringe summit]

one tip: you can move the AICs

[crimson inlet]

proper term: PACs

[sand pivot]

yeah I think overall my production line looks nice and is efficient though

[hollow drum]

i would not worry about optimizing your factory until you unlock most of the nodes

[crimson inlet]

shorter: Cores

[fringe summit]

too many batteries, you can only have 3

[hollow drum]

and resources

[analog elbow]

^

[fringe summit]

well, you can do a 4th but it looks like ass

[proper ravine]

i gotta a lot of work to do...

[analog elbow]

I let them expire

[hollow drum]

just focus on making things needed by the outposts, and continue playing the story

[fringe summit]

they are the uselessly big things

[crimson inlet]

Optimize your factory if you've maximize that thing's resource gathering

[worthy condor]

Hi there! Although I am in the end game currently, I’m still a noob with the factory stuff. I have my sub PAC at level 3 in valley pass, but nothing else really upgraded. What should I do for blueprints since I’m still technically a beginner?

[crimson inlet]

yeah, PACs, Protocol-Automation Cores

[sand pivot]

yeah I am basically making medicine and batteries to try to level up the outposts cause more bills = more space for machines when the time comes @hollow drum

[crimson inlet]

the big tower

[fringe summit]

shaddap why you throwing big words at me

[crimson inlet]

that's why outposts are called Sub-PACs

[fringe summit]

[crimson inlet]

we like big words

[hollow drum]

wdym

[analog elbow]

i used to say PAC and nobody understands me

now i just say core or outpost

[fringe summit]

the weird squarre

[fringe summit]

do you want to learn and do it yourself

[fringe summit]

or do you wanna cheat

[worthy condor]

Well, which would be easier at the moment since I know nothing basically

[fringe summit]

cheat is always easier

that's why it's called cheat

[crimson inlet]

if you want the official media + https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=images&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiqn_jTttWSAxU2ffUHHZfzFPgQr4kDegQIIBAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Fendfield.wiki.gg%2Fwiki%2FProtocol_Automation-Core_(PAC)&usg=AOvVaw2aYKmvgDpxKqVCRhos3CmL&opi=89978449

[fringe summit]

#aic-factory message

start with that

[hollow drum]

I just call it Core regardless

[fringe summit]

keep scrolling down

and follow the conv

[hollow drum]

or "main unit"

[somber briar]

How many ziplines you guys have at wuling?

[hollow drum]

cuz Core can mean also Core AIC

[fringe summit]

28

[hollow drum]

not enough

[worthy condor]

It’s so confusing…

[somber briar]

Im trying to survive with one battery and live comfortable

[hollow drum]

just cheat if you cba learning

[somber briar]

Thats.. a lot

[fringe summit]

start by destroying everything in an outpost

[hollow drum]

no one cares if you only use someones bp and if they do theyre a jerk

[somber briar]

Also how does these blue shared zipline works?

[fringe summit]

then move the pac/aic/thing to a corner

[worthy condor]

Should I destroy everything in the valley pass one?

Or both the sub and the main

[fringe summit]

sure, just choose 1 of the outpost and nuke the entire thing

[hollow drum]

they work the same as normal zips

[worthy condor]

Okay going right now

[somber briar]

Can i choose where they spawn?

[hollow drum]

no LOL

[somber briar]

Do i need to regularly repair them?

[fringe summit]

I'll assume that you already max out your zone area

[fringe summit]

if you got friends that share ye

[hollow drum]

think so

not sure on that regard cuz i end up building my own either way

[somber briar]

Friend? You mean my friend can spawn blue zipline in my city?

[fringe summit]

people can specify you as the recipient of a share

[worthy condor]

For this sub PAC yes

[fringe summit]

if they choose to do so

[worthy condor]

Not the depot bus tho

[analog elbow]

300 Protocol Limit reached

[fringe summit]

well

you can build up eventually

as long as the zones are max expanded

[somber briar]

That blue zipline doesnt eat battery right?

[analog elbow]

nope

[worthy condor]

Yes they are

[storm garnet]

293 protocol on wuling now, not bad

[fringe summit]

so which one are you at

atm

[analog elbow]

shared facility does not consume anything

[somber briar]

And no limit on how many blue zipline i can have?

[analog elbow]

the tiles yes

[storm garnet]

i think i can drop 2 more

[fringe summit]

the refugee town in valley pass?

[worthy condor]

Valley pass

Yes

[fringe summit]

click select this

[analog elbow]

i had to sacrifice my Ziplines for Thorn Yazhen too

[worthy condor]

Okay

[fringe summit]

move

[worthy condor]

Where’s that button-

[analog elbow]

Do as the picture shows?

[worthy condor]

Nvm. It’s different on PS5

Found it tho

[analog elbow]

Ah

[fringe summit]

in the corner opposite of the bus

count 12

move it there

like in picture

[crimson inlet]

I like how in my endgame, I disregard the core for space

[shrewd knoll]

the core is a glorified protocol stash

[storm garnet]

ugh, forgot relays are 1 capacity, so i just saved 1

[worthy condor]

It is there now

[fringe summit]

copy the highlighted facilities

[crimson inlet]

it feels like modded Mindustry

[fringe summit]

and add belts like picture

[crimson inlet]

once you play it enough

[rain axle]

yep

[worthy condor]

Okay, I need to do this manually?

[storm garnet]

wait, so ziplines were 3 capacity, why did my brain said they were 2

[shrewd knoll]

and turrets are like 4

[fringe summit]

ye because I didnt upload

[shrewd knoll]

so if you really need that protocol capacity, delete the defense

[worthy condor]

Okay problem, I am not gonna have enough power

[fringe summit]

do it as practice to learn how it works

[analog elbow]

i even thought it was 1

[worthy condor]

I only have 200

[analog elbow]

[fringe summit]

it's fine

ignore power

[worthy condor]

Okay okay

Give me a hot minute!

[storm garnet]

that happened too, but here we are trying to give some room for mistakes to the brain too

[analog elbow]

well experience the best teacher ig.

[storm garnet]

whatever, 292 capacity, i should have enough to make the tianjing courtyard project now

[fringe summit]

once done, try copying this top part, if you don't have enough busses, just place the buildings anyway as placeholders and add loaders once you have the bus slots

[storm garnet]

i spotted another place i might save some relays, let's see..

[fringe summit]

do you have random turrets/pumps here and there like I do?

might be able to same on some

[worthy condor]

What is the gearing unit going to at the bottom?

[storm garnet]

nope, all my turrets are on the essence farm spot

[fringe summit]

basically 3 sets of that flipped

[fringe summit]

might have to consider removing some of those turrets while you're rennovating probably

[somber briar]

How long it takes for thorn yazhen to respawn?

[fringe summit]

the farm pump can also be reduced to 1 if you're coping on protocol

[storm garnet]

nah, it's fine, i have enough already, i'm only optimizing now

i only needed like 4-6 capacity for the project

pipes are free

[worthy condor]

I can’t find the protocol thin for some reason

[storm garnet]

my farm has 1 pump ye

[fringe summit]

is your research maxed

[worthy condor]

Uhhhhh

No

[fringe summit]

max this stuff, except for combat

first

[storm garnet]

mmm, i have a fluid tank on the farm, i thought i deleted it

i'll get on that later

[worthy condor]

Oh I found it

[storm garnet]

man, every time i optimize 1 thing, i find 3 more down the line

game should let's us move relays from the map

[fringe summit]

hmm now that I'm lookign at this week old design

I can optimize it some more

[storm garnet]

i optimize my factory every day

[fringe summit]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[storm garnet]

not even done

[shrewd knoll]

should be instant if you change region and go back

[fringe summit]

been neglecting v4 lately

since it stabilized at like 135k/hour

or sth

or was it 153k

forgot

[storm garnet]

i'm maxing valley 4 depot atm

then i can do more optimization

[stray jasper]

https://youtu.be/RTZJrbmTh7o?si=QUSIXXeBq4TKUrNX

This is the first formula that proven me wrong that splitters are useless/slow. Guys i recommend follow this

[shrewd knoll]

it's not "real electrical engineering" its just a time gap belt switch

[fringe summit]

^

[worthy condor]

Okay everything in blue is build

[fringe summit]

also click bait

post of a post

[fringe summit]

start on part 2

[storm garnet]

that's what my goal is once i finish optimizing everything else

[fringe summit]

you connected the belts right @worthy condor

[worthy condor]

OH CRAP UGH

One sec

[storm garnet]

but i don't want the annoying "low power" alerts to go on yet

[nova lodge]

construction complete! low power....

[fringe summit]

I live on the edge

[storm garnet]

same, gotta use the power

[ancient zinc]

Slowdown Edmin

[storm garnet]

wuling is on hc batteries to not waste energy for now

[ancient zinc]

[fringe summit]

nah not efficient, my asian parents wouldnt be proud

[trim star]

happy

[storm garnet]

there are 4 essence farms places on v4, but i have 3 of those with the turrets turned off, or i would go red

[fringe summit]

all the excess power you can chop

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[ancient zinc]

Santa Maria!

[storm garnet]

the best optimization would be to turn every turret off if not using them, but can't bother with that

[fringe summit]

same

[worthy condor]

I wasn’t able to do one part cause they were running together

[fringe summit]

which part

[worthy condor]

But everything else was built

[fringe summit]

take pic

all parts need to be constructed or it wont work

[stray jasper]

True

[minor timber]

just so everything can be stabilised

[worthy condor]

I’ll have to take the pic through my phone

[fringe summit]

that's fine

[stray jasper]

So whats the truth in this? Is it effective or no.

[minor timber]

where electricity

[ancient zinc]

Where’s the pylon my guy?

[worthy condor]

I’m not worried about that yet

I’m just trying to get the construction done first, then adding all that stuff.

[ancient zinc]

[fringe summit]

drag these over

[storm garnet]

the whole point is that banks use batteries every 40 seconds, but you want to fed them with a gap than more than 40 seconds, depending on energy demand

[fringe summit]

as you drag the belt the game should auto bridge it for you

[worthy condor]

Won’t they run into each other

[fringe summit]

research this

[storm garnet]

aic has a energy backup that goes from 100% to 0% gradually, so you use that time to save on batteries

[worthy condor]

Okay… I need power to even get to that though UGHHH

Cause it’s a requirement

[nova lodge]

power? you just need AIC tec points though?

[storm garnet]

the closer to 0% before feeding a new battery, the "harder" the setup you could say

there is a power requirement for one of those talents

i think it was 1k

[nova lodge]

ehh, never knew that.
didn't notice it ;v

[storm garnet]

you can just slap a few extra banks for a moment

[worthy condor]

Would it be easier to DM me? I’m literally such an idiot with this, I’m sorry.

[storm garnet]

i don't want to fix this mess, 291 it is

[fringe summit]

that's fine you get the resources to upgrade by opening map and filter like so

go to those balloon thingy and pick them up

[worthy condor]

Nvm once again I didn’t see that that one I didn’t need energy

[stray jasper]

Oohhh

[shrewd knoll]

it works but its super niche for a specific power level and less reliable as the power consumption goes up because the reserved power is fixed

[worthy condor]

Okay got it finally

[fringe summit]

nice, now try doing the upper part, like I mentioned lmk if you're stuck

[storm garnet]

starting the pipe project

[shrewd knoll]

get the good water from the city

instead of that swamp poo water

[trim tusk]

Which mission is this for?

[worthy condor]

Would this be easier with a blueprint? I’m kinda stuck now and confused on this bit

[storm garnet]

what water, i want to pipe liquid plants or xiranite

[storm garnet]

meme mission

[fringe summit]

no

[trim tusk]

[storm garnet]

a life mission

[nova lodge]

new issue: pipe contamination in wulling.
as in the pipes themselves

[shrewd knoll]

theres only one good water spot in the main AIC

that waterfall

everything else is poo farm water run off

[somber briar]

So you guys play around 2k power instead of 1.8k power in wuling?

[storm garnet]

i might use that one in the future actually, since i have water needs on the south of the aic

maybe with 1.1

[shrewd knoll]

just use originium ore to bridge the gap

[fringe summit]

I mean the poo water from the river can sport like 15 pumps, you wont ever need more than that

[storm garnet]

i'm around 2.2k on wuling, using 2 hc batteries

[storm garnet]

it's just to reduce pipes around the aic

to make it look cleaner mostly, also less clutter for piping other stuff

[somber briar]

Two battery factory doesnt have any originium to spare right?

[shrewd knoll]

it does if you are not producing at max capacity and diverting some to components

[somber briar]

Im considering to utilize shared facility to minimize my power consumption

[shrewd knoll]

like 1 component p/m, 10.5 battery p/m, you can get like +300 exta power

[somber briar]

Ah, im at 12/minute yield

[storm garnet]

cant go under the bell :c

[fringe summit]

rip

[nova lodge]

too much vibration :v

pipe gonna explode

[somber briar]

Doing 10.5 battery require more brain power

[analog elbow]

is this 0 sanity gameplay

[storm garnet]

that's just the start

[ancient zinc]

Try going above it

[storm garnet]

gotta get all the way here

[shrewd knoll]

not really, thats one just splitting one belt

[fringe summit]

vertical thinking

[analog elbow]

how do you have so much power usage. i can't even go above 2K with everything

[shrewd knoll]

and diverting it to the component

[storm garnet]

turrets and some extra shit making depot full passively

[analog elbow]

ah

I thought you use Batteries for turrets

[storm garnet]

ugh, batteries on turrets

never

[fringe summit]

cringe

[storm garnet]

btw, i guess batteries on turrets only use energy when recharging?

[analog elbow]

i put 50 HC each last week and it still has 49 despite my constant farming

[nova lodge]

we have 2 groups: batteries and non-batteries for turrets :3

[storm garnet]

if so, i might do that then

[fringe summit]

ye

[shrewd knoll]

the amount of times they fire per battle, its just not worth it

[analog elbow]

20% more efficient too

[fringe summit]

betrayed god

[storm garnet]

i'm sorry for the betrayal

[fringe summit]

[shrewd knoll]

better to just disconnect the grid to them when not using

[storm garnet]

i'll use wuling batteries i guess

[fringe summit]

words of satan right there

[analog elbow]

says who

[nova lodge]

gotta setup some easy stash as well at the farming spot.

[somber briar]

You split the xiranite right? How does splitting one change 6 to 4.5/minute?

[shrewd knoll]

I use a protocol stash to input 60 and split 3 ways and then further split the one going to components

[storm garnet]

i have stockade full of wuling batteries

[analog elbow]

all my turrets only used 1 HC battery so far despite my constant farming everyday so yeah. it is worth it

[shrewd knoll]

i'll take a ss

[storm garnet]

53.3k batteries, plus the ones in belts

[analog elbow]

back up plan ahh

[somber briar]

Yeah thats where the brain power go lol

[nova lodge]

probably will start doing that for future plans.
still need to power easy stash nearby though.

[somber briar]

Ill try it this weekend

[storm garnet]

gotta make extra depot room

[analog elbow]

i didn't know that Batteries on turrets have bonus efficiency

until i was told

[shrewd knoll]

its a pretty stable

[analog elbow]

and tried it and well. life is good

[somber briar]

Yeah it should be

[nova lodge]

they should make direct power improves turret firepower by 30% or something....

[shrewd knoll]

you dont even have to split the other lane of belt, just give it a new one since the xiranite is the choke point

[analog elbow]

Nuh uh

[shrewd knoll]

not the originium cubes

[nova lodge]

and i found out that the AOE marsh gas and fireball doesn't do DOT when used outside of base defense mode....

[storm garnet]

more like 100%, turrets are kinda weak

[nova lodge]

[fringe summit]

I just do this

[nova lodge]

lore accurate john endmin summon :3

[storm garnet]

isn't the dot a ground thing

[analog elbow]

I mean using the main power and just disconnecting the grid sound fair but
who tf do all that? ain't got enough time

[nova lodge]

yes, it should do DOT if enemy is in the AOE.
but i find no damage no. / bar moving when used outside of base defense.

[shrewd knoll]

the dot is just the marsh thing

the grenade launcher loses dps if it doesnt hit 3 enemies

better to just use sentry

[fringe summit]

the beam turrets are pree decent

[nova lodge]

nope, fireball have it as well.
but both doesn't have it when used outside of base defense.
marsh ball can still slow enemies though

[somber briar]

Beam tower and sentry tower is the best for defending wuling essence right?

[storm garnet]

i'm in love with beam towers, but damn that cd

[analog elbow]

Surge yes. it bounces to 2 enemies

[shrewd knoll]

beam tower not so good, range too short and can hit chaff

[somber briar]

All in surge?

[storm garnet]

surge is like meh, i put 1 or 2 max

[analog elbow]

Surge + Sentry

[earnest steeple]

Beam is also good because if first shot kills the next two hits another target.

[shrewd knoll]

surge is fine for the stun value on the small enemies

[nova lodge]

sentry gud :3

[shrewd knoll]

but you have the marsh for that

just marsh + sentry

[pallid grail]

How to cheap out on battery using binary lol

[storm garnet]

you spend most time on chunky enemies, so aoe falls off

[nova lodge]

beam felt like shooting at wet noodle when the enemy is lvl 60-70 ;v

[analog elbow]

I use Marsh / Sentry / Surge

[nova lodge]

i just use sentry :v

[storm garnet]

beam is best

[shrewd knoll]

you just need to put sentry in a good place knowing that it shoots through walls

[somber briar]

Well i dont really need stun, i want these tower to kill the mobs while i do nothing lol

[misty grotto]

Am I missing any mining nodes?

[analog elbow]

are you sniping from the rooftop at Wuling Essence or something

[storm garnet]

i loved sentry at first, but then it kinda did poor dmg for me for some reason, so i put less

i might go back to them

[shrewd knoll]

essence farm, dont need to

[earnest steeple]

Just test it and see which config is faster.

[shrewd knoll]

they never attack the towers

[storm garnet]

you good

[shrewd knoll]

just put them in center as much as possible

[ancient zinc]

Wait…WAT?

[shrewd knoll]

so all of them can reach every enemy

[analog elbow]

I mean sentry is the best for Bosses and Enemies with giant health

[analog elbow]

Isn't that what we were talking about...

[fringe summit]

?

[shrewd knoll]

nah some of them are talking about the defense

outpost

[analog elbow]

ah

I was talking about essence

[shrewd knoll]

like you dont need marsh for the essence farm

[ancient zinc]

81meter Zip line won’t connect

[analog elbow]

I just put 1 for the slow and the rest are Surge and Sentry

[nova lodge]

maybe 1 marsh just to prevent the enemies from moving around too much.

[storm garnet]

i'm talking about essence farm, that's the only thing you need turrets after everything tbh

[analog elbow]

yeah

[analog elbow]

true

[earnest steeple]

Need both to be towers not pylons.

[storm garnet]

i put 1 or 2 marsh on essence farm just because

[nova lodge]

the lack of DOT is annoying though....when the enemy is in the aoe

[analog elbow]

surge for DoT

eh nah just bouce

[storm garnet]

i might just go full sentry just to check it out

and other turrets too

[nova lodge]

well, if your team is going full arts build, then yeah, better put more 'arts' based towers :3

[storm garnet]

good point

[somber briar]

So beam is useless? Just sentry all the boss?

[storm garnet]

i guess sentry is for phys team

i use fire

[shrewd knoll]

beam very useless unless you are putting them next to spawn point

to snipe the boss so it can do nothing

[nova lodge]

its just overall better, especially if your team don't have arts debuff.

[earnest steeple]

Only if you're brining someone with arts suscep.

[shrewd knoll]

since the bosses ramp up

[analog elbow]

don't go full sentry for essence
i put around 3 Sentry
1 Marsh and Surge the rest until cap limit

and i just afk

[somber briar]

My team will not participate in the essence farm lol

[ancient zinc]

When?

[storm garnet]

i don't see the point of surge, it hits low when there are few enemies

[shrewd knoll]

and its just generally better for the towers to have more range if you do nothing

since they do move to you sometimes

[analog elbow]

That's where sentries do the rest

[storm garnet]

1.1 trust

[fringe summit]

still waiting for that

[shrewd knoll]

so you want sentry between you and the spawn point

[fringe summit]

p5 trust

that's the p5 upgrade

[nova lodge]

surge dps ain't great, but it does allows for hitting multiple enemies over long distance.
helps with aggro draw.

[analog elbow]

Wuling essence spawns 2 high health enemies. sentries take care of those

[ancient zinc]

Gacha turret banners when??

[analog elbow]

or if you want it faster just put 4 sentries and surge the rest

[storm garnet]

oof, that actually sounds possible

[nova lodge]

please no ;v
character banner already drain me dry ;v

[storm garnet]

as to make factory part of battle

i wonder how to make battle part of the factory though

[azure minnow]

the water just shoots out of the pipe right?

[somber briar]

If wuling have a lot of resource to spare, i might spam turret on the entire map just like in valley lol

[storm garnet]

like, right now the only battle we do for the factory is the main story to unlock things

[nova lodge]

give us artillery towers that can target half the map every 10 sec

[ancient zinc]

https://tenor.com/view/plananx-ciws-gif-18207820

[shrewd knoll]

you need the dumping facility

[ancient zinc]

The turret

[storm garnet]

of course, that's how the real world works

[azure minnow]

the sprinkler?

[ancient zinc]

Devs : if we profit = we gonna do it

[storm garnet]

no, the other one

[shrewd knoll]

not the sprinkler

[azure minnow]

is it literally called the dumping facility i thought i unlocked everything i cant find it

[azure minnow]

ohhhh ok thanks

[shrewd knoll]

dispersing fluids sounds wrong

[somber briar]

Give us operator towers that can garrison an operator to spam their skill

[ancient zinc]

[azure minnow]

should i place multiple of them so it dispenses faster

[shrewd knoll]

one is enough for 3 pumps

but pipes can only handle 2 pumps

so 1 for every 2 pumps

[azure minnow]

ok thanks

[ancient zinc]

Ahh I’m gonna pump

[nova lodge]

[nova lodge]

[autumn maple]

i see all waifu asked for fertilize

[shrewd knoll]

read the plot details for fertilization

[nova lodge]

sus

[ancient zinc]

[proper ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/keep-your-pants-dry-your-dreams-wet-wet-dreams-ryan-reynolds-wade-wilson-gif-11656381

[azure minnow]

do the rivers ever overflow or no

like im moving water into a river idk if it floods

[ancient zinc]

Nah

[proper ravine]

Nope

[analog elbow]

just scan it. if it's unlimited then no

[nova lodge]

even if its not unlimited, it still can't overflow :v

[storm garnet]

it highlights it like it connects, but then...

[proper ravine]

i doubt the limited ones overflow either. they would just stop outputting the water when full

[storm garnet]

i guess we'll find out later if it works

[storm garnet]

yep, limited ones are like tanks basically

[velvet hemlock]

Whats the best package material for valley 4

[storm garnet]

sandleaf powder

[velvet hemlock]

I thought it was ferrium comps

[proper ravine]

i wonder if you can use them as large storage tanks for other liquids

[storm garnet]

dont use ferrium for packages lol, ferrium is precious

plants are free, and sandleaf is the most free with 3 powder from 1 plant

[nova lodge]

aketine powder / bombs is best :3

delivery package material :3

[velvet hemlock]

Makes sense

Though Im still not using all my ferrium

[analog elbow]

i dropped this mf yesterday and it's still here waiting for the perfect moment to get it's revenge

[proper ravine]

still need a boat load of them

[analog elbow]

send dudes

[storm garnet]

i'm kinda doing that just now

[velvet hemlock]

Bombs as factory material is funny

[storm garnet]

i wish they let's us transform liquids into solids again

imagine storing liquid xiranite until you need xiranite

[velvet hemlock]

Fr

[proper ravine]

or drain it into the rivers and solve everyones problems

[nova lodge]

edible xiranite :3

put 3x block of xiranite like tablets and the river shall be 'cleansed' :3

[proper ravine]

hearing that makes me think of Soylent Green

[storm garnet]

i use aketine for packages too, but since i have a surplus of sandleaf powder with almost 3 full extra belts, i use it

[ancient zinc]

Fighting / defending I see

[hollow drum]

soylent green lmao

[storm garnet]

for wuling, i just use plants

[nova lodge]

xiranite is pretty much that :3

[fringe summit]

redid my belt a bit

pog

[ancient zinc]

Mad lads

[storm garnet]

after i pipe my aic to the courtyard, i'll try to pipe it back again in case i need it, idk if capacity will allow me though

[fringe summit]

beautiful

[charred hull]

you what

[storm garnet]

yep

[nova lodge]

i wish pipe splitter walls actually block mobs....

[storm garnet]

i think i'll pass on complicated energy optimizations and just do things like what we do to get 20/min originium

[fringe summit]

just cheat with DIGE

[misty grotto]

Lmao

[ancient zinc]

Devs are looking at us

[fringe summit]

[nova lodge]

[fringe summit]

soon

[ancient zinc]

Devs : what are this f*** doing?

[velvet hemlock]

Dats a pretty big pool

[storm garnet]

wait, people actually used tanks for that lol?

[trim jetty]

Genuine question, wtf am I supposed to do with over 200k liquid xiranite

[velvet hemlock]

Why use tanks when you can use empty spaces?

[storm garnet]

there is a place to throw it out close to it

[storm garnet]

i'm getting there soon too

[proper ravine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/yes-bill-hader-stefon-yFs12GkGa4Cpq

[velvet hemlock]

Fill everywhere with liquid xiranite

[trim jetty]

Already did so

Rn I’m seeing how many tanks I can fit in my area to see if I can store more

Bc I having nothing better to do

[misty grotto]

@fringe summit it's perfect, and by pure luck, with no dige shenanigans.

[storm garnet]

do it like someone did, with a loop that fills with different types of liquid each time

[fringe summit]

nice

[storm garnet]

that was next to the aic though

[haughty wharf]

Does anyone know which powder gives the best carbon? Jincao or yezhen?

[velvet hemlock]

Lmao

[fringe summit]

oh ya

[nova lodge]

they are the same

[fringe summit]

good project

[proper ravine]

it was at that moment he put liquid jincao in a tried bath brewing

[fringe summit]

I should work on that

[velvet hemlock]

What factory game does to peoples autism:

[trim jetty]

I am the embodiment of autism

[proper ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wiggle-shaq-twerking-shimmy-gif-9035932

[storm garnet]

you probably need to store liquid on bottles to do that on the 40k place

and use aic space

[trim jetty]

I have all my bottles full, and WAY TO MANY TANKS full

[storm garnet]

tanks fill capacity fast

[fringe summit]

hmm I need some more jincao liquid

brb

[trim jetty]

Welp, time to go take a nap while all the tanks fill

[trim jetty]

Not when you have a full area of them

[storm garnet]

i mean protocol capacity of pipes

[proper ravine]

The real question is, can the excess liquid xiranite be dumped into rivers. gonna be a hell of a time bottling them if you cant

[storm garnet]

it's 96 segments on stockade, idk about wuling city

[inland perch]

Theres an achievment where u spray water on dociles slugs not the enemy ones tho i cant find them

[trim jetty]

Great question

I don’t wanna dump that much tho :/

[storm garnet]

you cant mix liquids, even on rivers

[trim jetty]

LEMME SELL LIQUID XIRANITE

[storm garnet]

it gotta be water

[nova lodge]

you can find some near the xiranite research center area.

[ancient zinc]

The one’s who’s sleeping?

[fluid fog]

Soon

[trim jetty]

🙏

[proper ravine]

gonna be funny seeing the bottling with no bottles

[storm garnet]

nice to know, more pipes!

[nova lodge]

[ancient zinc]

What do u mean SOON?

[nova lodge]

[cyan bronze]

cancer rock flavored water

[storm garnet]

maybe i should do that first, just in case i fill the pipe capacity

[shrewd knoll]

sheep hats when

they need hats

[storm garnet]

no, pass, courtyard first

[proper ravine]

isnt that just coke

[nova lodge]

FLUFF!

[ancient zinc]

Meeeeeeh

[cyan bronze]

omg it's the beast lord

[inland perch]

Will they add skins or r there mobile mods ppl cookin up

[storm garnet]

wait, you can basically use bottles for sprinklers anyways

[proper ravine]

more than likely

[trim jetty]

WAIT, PLEASE TELL ME I CAN USE LIQUID XIRANITE FOR SPRINKLERS

[proper ravine]

it would be hard to think they wouldnt sell you a beachwear themed skin

[fringe summit]

wait

[cyan bronze]

you can but it doesn't nothing

[storm garnet]

idk if sprinklers themselves have the option, but you can connect them to tanks

[cyan bronze]

give them mountain dew

[trim jetty]

New waste method

[sharp swift]

[cyan bronze]

spray Yazhen Solution to grow Yazhen

[fringe summit]

https://tenor.com/view/kingdom-hearts-kingdom-hearts-3-kh3-kingdom-hearts-iii-toy-box-world-gif-9524235933542533056

[ancient zinc]

Imagine fertilizer + sprinklers

[fringe summit]

he's cooking

[storm garnet]

that should be the way to grow the uncommon versions

[velvet hemlock]

Auto harvesters when?

[storm garnet]

wut

[proper ravine]

Idiocracy is here!

[trim jetty]

Disappointed

[storm garnet]

i didn't even know you could go above the cap of tickets

never got close lol

[trim jetty]

Tf bro at 50m

[proper ravine]

https://giphy.com/gifs/idiocracy-3oz8xDpcJhJrxUmFPi

[trim jetty]

My broke ass some how managed to get into debt 😭

I have -10000 $

[velvet hemlock]

XD

[trim jetty]

Anyways, gn fellow autistic gamers

[velvet hemlock]

This is so sad

[proper ravine]

yeah...

Band-Aid content

[sharp swift]

perlica told me to save money

[trim jetty]

All on black

[storm garnet]

finally here

[uneven aspen]

took a while to find a water source too

[storm garnet]

sad