aic-factory

[fervent stratus]

You know.... you can just take them all out, right? As soon as the production started.

I don't know why but for some reasons, my Citrone loop died

[marble yarrow]

that doesnt fix the input timing alone

[fervent stratus]

You sync it back emptying the machine for each input the moment the production start

1 item at a time (Can add back in some item as buffer for any delays)

[ancient zinc]

Have u tried to turn off units then u turn on them at the same time?

[fervent stratus]

LOL

[marble yarrow]

sometimes the belts themselves arent synced

like, 3 are ok but the 1 is not

[fringe summit]

why I like to have 1 cell buffers in between

woke up earlier only to find my buck A line got desynced for some reason

[vapid granite]

Tryna make a Xirinite farm, but Xirinite requires 2 stablized carbon = 1 xirinite, so that means 2 grinders for one Forge of the sky

Meaning i would need one more grinder for the second forge of the sky, but one Infinite Sandleaf farm makes 3 powder, and one grinder only needs one conveyor, what do with the other two sandleaf? Store it?

[gray oar]

I wait, then i zipline the world

[marble yarrow]

sometimes you get this

[uneven aspen]

oh wow you're right I just looked at some plant farms where I placed 50 sandleafs or 50 seeds in all of them and they now down to 10-20s

over 1 day

[marble yarrow]

(also belt bridges doesnt let you know the item that goes inside)

i rigged them like this, before i go offline

[fringe summit]

ye it's extra cursed

[marble yarrow]

i mean. all my facilities

guess what happens when you go offline for 2 hours

all product on the left side will be fully converted to the right side

[uneven aspen]

I just checked my consumable A line's citrome farm and they all full. So my trick of disabling the stash and waiting for every unit's input and output + all belts are full still works

guess i will try them out on these sandleaf farms to see if it fixes this

[marble yarrow]

maybe i'll just give them 1/4 stack

[marble yarrow]

maybe i should try with different time intervals

also some grinders will behave like this

like, the sandleaf powder will outpace the ferrium powder

[fringe summit]

was there a bridge immediately next to the grinder input port

[marble yarrow]

none

[fringe summit]

hmm ye that's funny

[tired shore]

prob just an interuption in your ferrium ore if your doing a max base

[fringe summit]

I fixed my by stashing it with max stack of powder

[tired shore]

and made literally anything else with ferrium ore

[marble yarrow]

it happens to all my facility when im offline. even originium and ferrium

[tired shore]

huh

[marble yarrow]

why would the sandleaf outpace this lmaoo

[tired shore]

whats your production graph show? are all the ores rock steady?

[marble yarrow]

yes. when im online

[tired shore]

but offline?

[fringe summit]

these maybe

one of my grinder desynced from that

[marble yarrow]

this 3 behaved the same way

[fringe summit]

fixed itself next time I went off by introducing 1 extra space

[tired shore]

like, go into production stats for the last day, is it a perfect line for the ore?

[fringe summit]

?

I failed to understand sorry

reword that?

[tired shore]

asking haru, the aic graphs

[marble yarrow]

no way right? this is 1-day chart

the bump is when im online

[tired shore]

yeah, that bump is suspicious

[fringe summit]

there's some clogging there

[marble yarrow]

nope

i know my factory so well

[fringe summit]

oh

[marble yarrow]

im not a noob

[fringe summit]

I remember I had that problem

[marble yarrow]

i perfect-ratio everything, if you observe

[fringe summit]

missing 1 from the intended output

[tired shore]

check the production/comsumption of the ores

[fringe summit]

ye I know about the ratio being perfect

[tired shore]

somethings iffy

[marble yarrow]

it only happens when im offline

[mellow iris]

chat have i mined every ore node? im rdl 11 btw

[marble yarrow]

like the chart for 2 hours stays flat when im online

but when im offline, they would jumble up

[mellow iris]

also waht should i fit in my factory to make some more stuff

im in valey 4 btw

one quest away from wulin

[marble yarrow]

upscale your factory, build more with what is available with your resources

[gray oar]

Wuling so broke i manually make 50 xiranite fluid bottles for puzzles 🥀

[tired shore]

do you have power issues? are you using some flawed power PWM that blacksout every once in a while?

[marble yarrow]

ofc i dont

[tired shore]

how strange. i dont think ive ever seen that

[marble yarrow]

bro, my power system in wuling doesnt misbehave, but everything else does

[fringe summit]

it's because of the snapshot frequency differs when you are online and offline, the factories are checked more often when your are online so your product cycle will begins the moment resources are filled.

[marble yarrow]

im amazed that offline didnt messed up my battery throttling

[mellow iris]

what can i build tho with my limited resources

[tired shore]

that doesnt account for a -1/min production average over a day

[fringe summit]

try pre-filling the facilities

like have all the mats above the production requirements for all facilities

that fixed that for me

[marble yarrow]

prefilling 💀

[tired shore]

this has never mattered for me

[vapid granite]

YESSS I CREATED A MORE EFFICIENT XIRINITE PRODUCTION

[tired shore]

but idk

[vapid granite]

MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT IT ISNT SYMMETRICAL

[marble yarrow]

i saw people with the same problem many times

[mellow iris]

chat where should i sit

[fringe summit]

mine is

[marble yarrow]

sorry bro

maybe build, 1 more HC

[vapid granite]

No symmetrical pipes this also failiure

[marble yarrow]

if i may ask, do you already clear out all the outpost bills every day

[fringe summit]

no shaddap

[marble yarrow]

im in asia so maybe its just because corruption is a normal thing

[uneven aspen]

it should be 24 18 18 why are they all 1 min less each

[vapid granite]

I see how you got symmetrical, you got your plant farm elsewhere making carbon into your debot

I straight up continued after my plant maker

[fringe summit]

ye

[marble yarrow]

i love my sussy planters

[fringe summit]

I littered tantan's place with planters

[uncut rock]

Anyway I can make my zip lines neater?

[vapid granite]

That shredder must be clogged hu

[fossil spoke]

isnt that actually good ?

[fringe summit]

not if you just fill them with full stack

[fossil spoke]

since they asked for food plantation

[marble yarrow]

i love when every thing has 1 item which is stolen

you cant make this up bro

[fossil spoke]

are u sure ur da pan not eating them ?, but anyway whats that problem?

why all ur production has -1

[marble yarrow]

bro

my facility is dishonest

[fringe summit]

ye there's some weird offline haviour

[marble yarrow]

i have wacky employees

[hidden temple]

must be the condensation

[marble yarrow]

did my account use so much data lmaooo

bro has only 1 job

bro you are alone what are you doing

[fringe summit]

this is the part that mystifies me

[marble yarrow]

i gave you your own office space

i have 1 last suspect here

which in most cases shouldnt be the problem

[inland perch]

they built a pulse width modulator in the game to maximize power
https://automaton-media.com/articles/newsjp/arknights-endfield-20260205-416335/

[fringe summit]

I think these guys are the cause

[simple fractal]

This pains me, there’s a whole facility just to make items go into depot with no spaghetti

[edgy burrow]

This is PWM aka puls wideth
People are doing some crazy shit

[fringe summit]

I like them long

[edgy burrow]

SAME BRAIN

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-laughing-cat-laughing-hah-hahahahh-gif-6287389218724353685

[inland perch]

yoo

[edgy burrow]

Hahaha hahaha

[tired shore]

so you are in fact, mining stuff. but some belt somewhere is not exporting the ore fast enough?

[edgy burrow]

Our algorithms match

[tired shore]

this btw is fundementaly flawed

if crashes under some powers

[edgy burrow]

It works tho

[tired shore]

after like 4h

[marble yarrow]

i mean. maybe the game is confused for my ore storage

like it makes my game account data 1kb larger

[edgy burrow]

Look I am just happy that the end field community is getting as dedicated as the red ston Minecraft community

[inland perch]

it doesn't even matter cuz allmy originium and ferrium are alr used up
can't even apply the extra power to make more syringe/drinks or batteries

like wut else do i power in wuling

[marble yarrow]

glad that i did it long before this blew up (coz 0 sanity moment)

[vapid granite]

Fuck redstone

[fossil spoke]

im waiting for Starfics progress to be upstreamed into DIGE

[tired shore]

you do not know how much discussion went to making something that doesnt crash

[rain mesa]

guys i xlice factory for valley iv good ? or is there like a best opti;ized factory for valley iv ?

[marble yarrow]

only when the mind is clear. and the sanity is zero, where we discover the fundamental laws

[crisp idol]

maybe today i will learn my lesson and not have sandleaf clog the xiranite stash

[inland perch]

well im not doin it on mobiile fur sure 😂 let my phone liv

[edgy burrow]

I mean yeah but not everyone has a fully optimized power usage sooo instead of making better why not make a PWM?

[fossil spoke]

or Starficz makes different battery optimizer tools

[vapid granite]

Why is my theory data saying im still using Xirinite? I just shut off all my production

[fringe summit]

your usage is 0 wdym

theory is theory

[edgy burrow]

Trauma?

[fossil spoke]

its not ?, theoritical is "max"

[fringe summit]

it doesnt care if it's on

[marble yarrow]

because you have a forge existing

[edgy burrow]

I do know how much my shit crashed tho

[tired shore]

bro doesnt know what yield means

[vapid granite]

So this is the only thing that matters

[edgy burrow]

ALRIGHT
The factory is not THAT complicated

[inland perch]

how should i separate my forge of sky to make bumper rich
my xiranite factory is too compact and not modular

[marble yarrow]

oh theyre talking about "usage" well as long as the machines are within your base they count as theoretical usage/yield

[tired shore]

you dont

[inland perch]

but the double crop yield breh

[tired shore]

just dodge better 4head

[edgy burrow]

Not everyone is a fluent English speaker.
Don't make fun of the fella!

[uneven aspen]

3 production lines of HC battery and buckflower A is enough to buy out the stockbills.

[marble yarrow]

just move the forge, bumper rich for a few minutes, then return it

[inland perch]

ymean enough to drain all my ores

[uneven aspen]

not drain, it should equal so sustain itself

[marble yarrow]

poop item isnt that many to make its own production line

[inland perch]

u right
ig i supply it with water from a separate place then
then put it bac in my xirante factory when im doen

[mellow iris]

not in a single time if i sell twice a day like one early and late day i can almost do it

but almost yeah

[marble yarrow]

maybe try adding 2 or 3 buck C, maybe that would clear your shops every time you sell

if you arent interested in adding a third HC battery production

[mellow iris]

what should i built

[uneven aspen]

3 HC batteries and 3 buckflower or citrome A

[marble yarrow]

1 more HC if your current space permits

[mellow iris]

do i even have enoguh ferrium for that

i have enough space that aint a problem but my ferrium is a bit lackluster

[uneven aspen]

yup

[marble yarrow]

you have 60 ferrium left. thats enough

[mellow iris]

got any blueprints that use up exactly 60 for batteries?

[marble yarrow]

i dont, but you can search in #1461542035617091681 using keyword HC

my base arrangement isnt other-users friendly

[tired shore]

For valley IV, there's so many blueprints, just take some

[marble yarrow]

well for the fact that you already have working 2 HC production, you can do it bro

[tired shore]

Leanders are great

[vapid granite]

Is this an efficient Wuling LC battery maker

[fringe summit]

SURE WHY NOT

oops topview

[vapid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-qianyu-silly-gif-2603914693282121266

[marble yarrow]

the item ratio is correct, so thats great enough

[vapid granite]

Ill worry bout Symmetry when the rest of Wuling is out

[marble yarrow]

as long as xiranite is also consistently supplied

[vapid granite]

if i do it now theres a big chance ill end up changing it anyways when new shit releases

[fringe summit]

you'll still have to stare at it for like a month

[marble yarrow]

wuling so spacious so i just separate them

[fringe summit]

same

[uneven aspen]

I managed to go from 4 ->3 electric pylons for this HC battery line.

Now im wondering about the height. Im at 36x17 Im wondering if I can make it 36x16 but im not seeing where to move the packaging unit

[tired shore]

Smh, wasting 1/3 of that shredder output?

[vapid granite]

tf

[fringe summit]

yuck

[vapid granite]

Wait moulders?

[marble yarrow]

you dont have to be that rude

[vapid granite]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-qianyu-silly-gif-2603914693282121266

[fringe summit]

[chrome matrix]

2Head

[vapid granite]

Is this correct

got one xirinite on battery and one on components

[marble yarrow]

yeah data is correct

[vapid granite]

still dunnno why the Theory data is red for usage

[marble yarrow]

the battery and component should show 6/min and 3/min

[fringe summit]

it's saying 90 usage because the gear max usage is 60

[vapid granite]

Xirinite still shows 6

[marble yarrow]

buh

[vapid granite]

is that bad

[fringe summit]

NO

[vapid granite]

Oh its 3 now

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-arknights-endfield-endfield-funny-boom-gif-16915126755531455646

[fringe summit]

it's just saying that that's what you should theoretically be consuming at maximum potential

[vapid granite]

I CANT BELIEVE I FIGURED OUT THE OPTIMAL PRODUCTION ON MY OWN LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[fringe summit]

grats

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/joker-clapping-well-done-good-going-good-job-gif-11418768

[crimson inlet]

holy

[vapid granite]

one time i had that much i completely forgot to sell that day

[marble yarrow]

mine

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[vapid granite]

Ah shit am i losing originium

[chrome matrix]

in my case, warehouses are not used at all, because everything is built on water and flowers)

[crimson inlet]

.dump

[simple fractal]

You are using more than your making

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[marble yarrow]

NO WEI

[fringe summit]

setup 1.5 rig worth of dense O

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-jam-stonks-stonk-jam-head-shot-hans-gif-21157324

[fringe summit]

or 2 whole rig

[crimson inlet]

THE STOCKS ARE CRASHING

WE BUY LOW AND SELL HIGH TO OTHERS

[fringe summit]

fr

[simple fractal]

Supply and demand babyyyyyyyy

[vapid granite]

yay i fixed it

[simple fractal]

Nice

[vapid granite]

What i currenctly got going at my Wuling AIC rn

I say i could probably compact this smaller, if i switch the carbon production from sandleaf to buckflower- would use less conveyors and open some space

but fuck it

[simple fractal]

Ay as long as your making bank

[fringe summit]

switch carbon production to yazhen or jingcao

those only take 2 planters instead of 3

[vapid granite]

nah then i gotta use more water

[vapid granite]

oh you're right

[fringe summit]

nah pumps are efficient, 1 pump has an output of 60/min so it can fuel 2 facilities

[vapid granite]

The only flaw in this design rn is that the second Forge production with sandleaf is making excess powder that i dunno what to do with them

[marble yarrow]

split the sandleaf before going to the shredder

1 path goes to shredder, 2 paths to the protocol stash

[vapid granite]

So 3 conveyors?

[uneven aspen]

why not use the wuling plants?

[vapid granite]

I just havent adapted to considering those yet

[marble yarrow]

based on your current setup

[uneven aspen]

they the opposite of valley plant, where seeders make 2 seeds

instead it's planter make 2 plants

[marble yarrow]

this way, the sandleaf can do exactly 1 belt of powder while keeping the rest

[vapid granite]

Why 2 conveyors into producol? Did you just want to slow the splitter from turning into the shredder?

[marble yarrow]

yeah, because you only serve 1 belt of sandleaf powder, so the input should exactly be 1/3

[vapid granite]

Sounds like some crazy mathematical timing

[marble yarrow]

you'll do it if you are so bothered by clogging due to incorrect ratio lmaooo

look how crazy is my meds ratio

[vapid granite]

youre like the first person i see that chose to make Jincao instead

[marble yarrow]

i just alternate them, when i eventually change the layout

like, every week

[uneven aspen]

I just make the powder elsewhere and then use depotunloader 😔 it clogs the protocol stash instead.

[vapid granite]

So i just build it

Does the splitter switch conveyors every 1 second? Thtas why you created 3 lanes so it always switches back the the shredder on time since its 2 seconds to create sandleaf?

[marble yarrow]

yeah direct powder to unloder. great move

[marble yarrow]

yes. by the time the powder is empty it becomes 3 again due to timing

[vapid granite]

God im so smart

So you're affirming me that the shredder hasn't slowed production then

[marble yarrow]

you can see how the 1 belt of powder going the the grinder is consistent

[vapid granite]

In the future it would be easier to take account on how much sandleaf i need to use for another production than having 2 spare i guess

[fringe summit]

ye it shouldnt because it multiplies your belt by 3x pree much

[marble yarrow]

it creates 3 powder, unloads them every 2 seconds, then creates 3 again after 6 seconds

[vapid granite]

I can tell by how it doesnt keep filling up

[fringe summit]

alternatively instead of using a splitter you can simple use 2 output belts into protocol stash and 1 belt to the other building

or wait nvm you're doing it from the input end

[marble yarrow]

they dont like stashing the powder

hence i suggested stash the plant instead

[fringe summit]

ye that's fair I did the same

[marble yarrow]

stupid ass wuling not accepting sandleaf powder for delivery

buh

[vapid granite]

ngl doing it this way does hurt my symmetry OCD, for what symmetry is there

[stark osprey]

I feel like that would be one of the best additions in general

[mellow iris]

did a bit of refiddling my pac and sub pac now i have 2 sub pacs completely empty, my main pac and valley pac completely full (valley pac does have some empty space tho)
any ideas what i should do

[marble yarrow]

wait they dont actually accept any powder at all lmaoo

[vapid granite]

explain to me how you arent clogging the powder again with only 2 conveyors?

[marble yarrow]

you can use the amethyst ore for buck C or citrome C

[mellow iris]

aight thanks g

[marble yarrow]

you can do a maximum of 4 facility with it

that will use the 240/min yield of amethyst exactly

or produce bombs and pack it in delivery

[fringe summit]

it's clogged, on the input and will only consume 2/3 of a belt

because the shredder will simple reject

[vapid granite]

i see so you're just accepting it

for symnmetry

[fringe summit]

ye

[marble yarrow]

also there's no easy return line on that setup so just accept it

[fringe summit]

if I want to I can bump it an extra cell or two to split and siphon 1/3 of a belt out

but there's no point

[chrome matrix]

alternate farm 🙂

[fringe summit]

like you can do this

but there's no point

[vapid granite]

keep the symmetry

[fringe summit]

here lemme quickly do it so you're happy

[vapid granite]

no keep the symmetry

your addiction to grow the factory is showing

[marble yarrow]

i can sense that you can actually swap those shredders

wild shi

[fringe summit]

ye that's what I'm doing

[marble yarrow]

NAH I DONT EVEN WANT TO COOK

[fringe summit]

here

[marble yarrow]

i'll just wait for some new splitter-converger discoveries

[fringe summit]

if you want to siphon for exact ratio

I side tracked and redid my gear line

[marble yarrow]

i already figured that out myself

i want some new weird discoveries

[fringe summit]

what are you even trying to do tho

[marble yarrow]

i'll change the ratio-matching for the jincao drink, from correcting the powder to correcting the liquid instead

for no reason

[fringe summit]

that would just be the same no

just add an extra 1/2 split on the incoming pipe if it's from a single pump

[marble yarrow]

yeah but, instead i store the excess liquid instead of the excess jincao plant

[fringe summit]

ye but it's still the same split setup is what I meant

a water pipe is 2/s at max and a pump is 1/s

a normal belt is 0.5/s so it's just a 2x and 4x multiplier at the end of the day

which translate to either a 1/2 splitter or 2x 1/2 splitters

[marble yarrow]

i just wanna change this that sends 23/48 ratio of belt of jincao to the shredder

but i realized the pipe splitter and convergers look ugly

[fringe summit]

ye they do

they also takes up more space since you can't stack anything vertically

unlike with a belt splitter and a normal pipe

[kind elbow]

what's the max yield for wulling blue ferrium ore?

[fringe summit]

90

use meta transfer from v4 for an extra 25

[kind elbow]

oh i havent used that yet. thanks

[potent wadi]

hello i would like to know that why do i have only 540/min originium yield
i have put rigs on every spot
shouldnt it be like 560/min?

[crisp idol]

if your development level's maxed check each vein for a new spot that got added from development level up

[potent wadi]

i am at lvl 11

[crisp idol]

then there's one node that you missed; turn off all the marker tags on your map (bottom left corner on map screen) and filter just the mineral beds

[misty grotto]

How hard do you think learning fuel pwm is?

[fringe summit]

not hard

just divide stuffs by 2 and 3

or you can just cheat

[solid python]

You guys don't use Ziplines?

[misty grotto]

Huh? There's an easy way?

[solid python]

For now anyway

[teal hemlock]

it's hard in the sense that it involves lots of fractional calculations based on a desired power output, so the structure of pwm will have to be changed/adjusted if your power needs change. also some layouts may provide smaller space use, but some provide a better distribution ratio (desired power presicion), so that is another aspect that is subjective to the user

[marble yarrow]

weird ahh interaction

[potent wadi]

i checked twice man
idk whats happening
the theoretical rate shows 560/min
but the actual is different

[charred hull]

Is it a good idea that I separate my bank and factory ? Like for ex Im only going to put nothing but a thermal bank at the power plateau?

[marble yarrow]

i keep my 4 battery banks directly feed either from the AIC or an unloader, for safety

[crisp idol]

oh you're fine then lmao

actual gain being lower means you're at limit

meaning you literally can't obtain more originium because you're full

[misty grotto]

Hmm. Pwms are new concepts to me, so it's something I wanna understand conceptually and not use a blueprint for lol. Feel like iv cheated by only using blueprints lol

I feel like a fake

[potent wadi]

i am currently using more originium coz i am making cryston part for gears

[marble yarrow]

didnt realized what im building on the first week of game release is what they eventually call PWM lmao

[haughty wharf]

This looks ugly but it works

[teal hemlock]

nothing bad about using bps, though for some people, like myself and I think many in this channel, figuring things out on our own is more fun. I spent the past 2 days only figuring out a mathematical model for the pwm and now understand it quite well, as in, you tell me how much power you want, I will create a circuit that gets that efficiency, but it takes time to find the most optimal ratios if you want a good level of precision

[marble yarrow]

before i perfected it, i left it alone and said "whats the point of this anyway, i'll just use exactly 1800 power in wuling"

[charred hull]

I don't like seeing those thermal banks with factories like every time I build a new farm I need to add a bank to keep it going so I'm thinking of putting only a thermal bank on the power plateau so it looks cleans

[vapid granite]

Realizing i couldve just refined the sandleaf to carbon instead then shred it to powder to use much less conveyors

[marble yarrow]

google gemini moment

[haughty wharf]

Is google gemini actually thst good?

[misty grotto]

How exactly did you learn it? Do you use YouTube etc?

[marble yarrow]

i taught every mechanics of endfield with it

well, belts splitters convergers

[haughty wharf]

Hmm ima try it

[teal hemlock]

idk I use duty cycle calculations and item ratios through splitters, and the fact that a battery uptime is 40s

[misty grotto]

Ai's been getting way better recently. Grok 4.1 does wonders in math

[haughty wharf]

Ive been putting it off lately because I know it can be a little inconsistent

[marble yarrow]

i used excel first before gemini. and yeah it confirmed my computations are correct

[misty grotto]

Ah yeah the different models can at times give you different answers, and even 4.1 will say one answer in the start, talk, see a mistake,then give another wrong answer lol

[teal hemlock]

I spent a bunch of time in excel calculating things, specifically ratios between combinations of splitters, mergers, and so on

[marble yarrow]

i did have fun doing this lmaoo

crazy

[potent wadi]

man i figured it out
one of the mine was in storage mode lmao

[haughty wharf]

I normally use excel lol

[crisp idol]

GG

[teal hemlock]

for my first 4k power version I used this design, then I changed and improved it over time hehe

nah but it was fun fr

[marble yarrow]

oh you're directly laying out the splitters

crazyyy

[teal hemlock]

seeing the banks always empty without batteries piling up yet the factory works at peak efficiency

[teal hemlock]

at first yeah, then I started making duty cycle and ratio calculations then I just knew how many splitters and mergers to lay and so on

[olive basalt]

gentlemen, ive set up my wuling factory at last

[marble yarrow]

simple usage

[haughty wharf]

You're is so organized teach me your ways master

[fringe summit]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[marble yarrow]

cheat!!

[fringe summit]

use that and create a thermal feeding pipeline as instructed

[fringe summit]

it do be like that

it's the age we live in

[marble yarrow]

its a stupid idea back then lmao

wonky ass circuit

[fringe summit]

I just split mine to reduce intake

during the first few weeks

never bothered calculating proper inputs since I kept on modifying my factory

basically was just "I guess I need around 1/3 of this thing working at full time

then apply a split

[marble yarrow]

i just removed all unneccessary things and i kept 4600 in valley and 1800 in wuling and forget it

[fringe summit]

it's not that hard to wrap your head around once you realized that a single full line can fuel 4 thermals

so 2 2-split can fuel 1 thermal

then reduce the ratio as needed

[haughty wharf]

Istn it 5 thermals?

[fringe summit]

I did that for a few days then it bugs me that I need to retoggle every time I needed to use towers to easy clear things

[marble yarrow]

i only use 4, which is 4600 power

[fringe summit]

you consume 1 battery every 40s, this means 1.5 batteries every minute, you can produce 6 battery a line per minute, this means exactly 4 thermals can be powered

[marble yarrow]

i only used like, 1 protocol stash in all of valley 4 + wuling

[haughty wharf]

I have three battery makers

[misty grotto]

I don't understand why it means by 3 or 2 way 🥀

[fringe summit]

split into 3 lines or split into 2 lines

[haughty wharf]

Lmao I use 10 which I prolly don't need to

[teal hemlock]

I feel like using the dige, you waste a bunch of space no? like if you make a bespoke build you can condense it?

[fringe summit]

space is the least of your concern

[marble yarrow]

if you settle on 1 power usage for a long time, just compress it in that config

[fringe summit]

^

like I just make mine big because I have the space

so why not

you can condense them

just leave 1 belt buffer to provent choking if you are using mergers

if you use protocol stashes then you can jam them

[teal hemlock]

I kinda obsess with fitting in as smol space as possible lol

[thorny latch]

Ok I'm sorry but I feel the need to complain about this

WHY IS EVERY SINGLE BUILDING LIMITED

ONE BUS PORT, TWO FORGES, JESUS CHRIST

not to mention the limited Ferrium supply

[fringe summit]

like what I posted can be condensed into this

[thorny latch]

that means you can't max out ANYTHING

[marble yarrow]

reminder to dont use adjacent splitter/converger or they might end up like this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1471646175974129834/Untitled_1.mp4?ex=698fb0ce&is=698e5f4e&hm=00f80783173c7d63f07ee897013912601e6f5dbcb6f80becd3c7ba179d95f848&

[thorny latch]

I am producing batteries at full efficiency and apparently one more factory is too much to ask

[fringe summit]

pretty much this lmao

[thorny latch]

I can't even produce gold equipment because I can't put down more buses

[teal hemlock]

but then u gotta power them or run them back... what I use now for my 4300 power (yes a bit inefficent since +300watts) is this (6x9) in size

[haughty wharf]

Idk but I feel refreshed looking at this compact design

[misty grotto]

Is there not supposed to be a conveyor belt here? The two other depots seem to be loaders

[marble yarrow]

i dont like powered stashes lmaooo. wdym you are saving power then use some powered stuff

[fringe summit]

I disabled the line

because I'm not using it

that was there for me to explain to you what a 3x and 2x way is

[thorny latch]

and rearranging my factory to fit all the originium output on one bus line means killing my factory because I'd have to completely refactor my battery assembly line

who thought of these stupid arbitrary limits?

[marble yarrow]

all my homies cheese with depot loader

[fringe summit]

that's true, why I opted to use depot loaders

admittedly the proto stashes are cheap enough to power most of the times and can just be rounding errors

only 5W per

[fringe summit]

you can't do that because the belts are hard capped at 30/min

[thorny latch]

?

belts aren't the issue here

[fringe summit]

wdym?

[thorny latch]

if I wanna produce gold equipment I need 6 originium outputs

for 6 originium outputs I need at least two more bus depot sections

but I can only place one bus port

meaning that I'd need to rearrange my entire factory just to fit them

and if I do that my factory dies because my battery production is reliant on this factory staying running

[marble yarrow]

dont you do it like this

[thorny latch]

banger pfp btw

[fringe summit]

lost me on the part where you are using 6 outputs for a full gear production line, are you not capping out your stockbill?

[marble yarrow]

wdym 1 bus port

[fringe summit]

and ye ty

[thorny latch]

they still don't let you zoom all the way out so here

I built it like this cause I thought that I'd be able to place more

NOPE

you get ONE port

the upgrades let you extend out from that SINGLE port, but not put down more

that and the forges being hard capped at 2 no matter what is absurd

[fringe summit]

pepe confused

[thorny latch]

I literally cannot expand my factory any more in this version of the game

[marble yarrow]

first time i see anyone having problem with the wuling depot bus

[thorny latch]

I need to wait for them to add more wuling so I can actually put things down

[fringe summit]

ummm

you can just add more depot bus section no

[marble yarrow]

cant u just use the other side

[haughty wharf]

Wait is your wuling pac maxed?

[thorny latch]

no

oh you mean upgrades?

yes

it is

[fringe summit]

like you can extend on the other side of the bus

you're limited by bus port

but not section

[thorny latch]

what side?

[fringe summit]

you can place 15 sections

[thorny latch]

where

[thorny latch]

no you can't\

[marble yarrow]

bro

[thorny latch]

nvm I can't read

[marble yarrow]

whats the problem? i have so much more

[fringe summit]

like if you want to keep your setup

you can do that

[vapid granite]

I bet this was everyone's first thought when creating placable buses

[fringe summit]

place a vertical deport bus section there on the left of the port

[marble yarrow]

bruh

i cant even use them anymore lmao

because they give me so much

[thorny latch]

allow me to reiterate: no space

and I can't move the factory because it's too big

[vapid granite]

just delete everything and do it agan

[thorny latch]

so I move it by pieces, kill production, and damn well nearly death spiral

[marble yarrow]

its a choice

a few minutes of rearrangement wouldnt hurt

[fringe summit]

no I mean you can move the entire block to the right by 2 cells

[thorny latch]

doesn't change the fact that these arbitrary limits are stupid

[fringe summit]

then place a vertical section on the left

[olive basalt]

hmm why did my syringe production get slashed in half

[fringe summit]

idk your factory

[thorny latch]

not enough ferrium

hard capped at 90/min, you need 180/min for full production

[fringe summit]

are you producing a full bottlr belt?

[olive basalt]

not the issue actually

[fringe summit]

that's exactly the issue actually

[fringe summit]

a full yazhen line requires 120 ferrium ore

[thorny latch]

theoretical yield is what matters here

[haughty wharf]

Your usage is in the red lmao

[thorny latch]

you're not producing enough, of course you won't be having a shortage in actual production

[fringe summit]

^

[thorny latch]

if you want your factories to run at full capacity, your theoretical yield needs to match or exceed your usage

[marble yarrow]

bro's crucible is sleeping

[olive basalt]

so its only using as its allowed

[thorny latch]

for raw materials at least, for products you wanna perfectly match or your system will get clogged

[thorny latch]

exactly

[marble yarrow]

if i were to guess, the water line is struggling

[thorny latch]

you won't magically consume 120/min if you're only producing 70, because there isn't enough to go around

[olive basalt]

no idea why tbh

[fringe summit]

you need to max the zone's development level + setup all the mines for a max yield of 90, then meta transfer for another 25 yield for 115 yield

[thorny latch]

so your factory consumes as much as possible, but is starved

[olive basalt]

So i basically constructed an endgame factory but i dont have the resources for it

lol

[thorny latch]

correct

[marble yarrow]

i can see both planter and crucible not receiving enough water

[thorny latch]

the resources do not exist on wuling

maximum ferrium production is 90/min locally at RDL4, then some 25/min more imported from Valley IV

[olive basalt]

but i connected them how am i supposed to put MORE water into them

[marble yarrow]

that water pipe looks dying tbh

[thorny latch]

splitter slashing input probably

[fringe summit]

no they receive enough water, both consume at 0.5 and a pump can provide 1

[thorny latch]

nvm then

[marble yarrow]

i dont like the look of that pipe

[fringe summit]

it's sleeping because it doesn't have a constant flow of bottle it seems and the ferrium liquid is capped prob in the fitting unit?

[thorny latch]

I haven't messed with crucibles cause I refuse to make a factory that can't produce at max efficiency

[thorny latch]

probably that

oh wait no

[marble yarrow]

it should be the water

[thorny latch]

a machine being backed up is labeled as "blocked", right?

[thorny latch]

*clogged, sorry

[marble yarrow]

yeah im right

[olive basalt]

use a splitter and put one there too? or what

put another pump down?

[thorny latch]

another pump is the play

[flint sigil]

is there a blueprint for thermal banks

[marble yarrow]

i know water problem when i see it

[haughty wharf]

Yes

[thorny latch]

splitting a split pipe will only give the same production as before

[fringe summit]

merge an additional pump into the pipe income

a pipe can handle 2.0 unit/s

[thorny latch]

1 pipe with .5/sec is the same as 2 at .25/sec

[marble yarrow]

sorry

[fringe summit]

and 1 pump provides 1.0

[olive basalt]

aight this should give enough water now

[marble yarrow]

wait why havent i slept, its morning alread

[fringe summit]

the pipe must had been splitted off somewhere before

[fringe summit]

watch the sun rise

[haughty wharf]

You can also rotate your facilities so the ports are more accesible

[marble yarrow]

its an easy tell coz both planter and reactor is sleeping

[crisp idol]

symmetrical 12/min HC battery sub-pac is real!!!!

[marble yarrow]

i dont wanna sleep because my facilities will steal 1 item on everything i make

SMH OFFLINE MODE

[haughty wharf]

Wuling tax lmao

[teal hemlock]

endfield factory night shift

[marble yarrow]

PROOF OF CORRUPTION

[analog elbow]

@marble yarrow

[fringe summit]

they were on the phone

duh

[marble yarrow]

maybe its a side effect of having this

[analog elbow]

that's funny i just got Gilberta from the 10 free pull

i didn't want to pull her but free is always good

[nova lodge]

[nova lodge]

[olive basalt]

maybe i can put the facilities here

bro the water source is just too fucking far i swear to god

[marble yarrow]

https://klipy.com/gifs/silly-reaction-meme-1

[haughty wharf]

I might be using a little too much ferrium

[analog elbow]

wtf is that usage

i mean batteries

[fringe summit]

wtf

why is this a thing

[analog elbow]

do you use 10 freaking thermal banks

[fringe summit]

they limited my power

[haughty wharf]

Yes

[marble yarrow]

i need to hire new people lmaooo why is my Industries do this

[analog elbow]

Real Life Factory Sims

[haughty wharf]

Idk need more thermal banks

[analog elbow]

[fringe summit]

no it's the 512 facility limit

the power is fine

[haughty wharf]

Wait they have a facillity limit in wuling wth

[analog elbow]

yes

there's also a protocol facility limit of 300

[haughty wharf]

Im fine with protocal stashes since I dont use much

[analog elbow]

Why did you even reach the 512 limit bruh

[fringe summit]

[marble yarrow]

i dont remember the facility limit in my valley main hub but its like around 700 or 760

or 768

[haughty wharf]

I found that out the hard way

I'm more worried about the belt limit

[olive basalt]

does bridging 2 pumps by a bridger increase water output

cuz otherwise im not gonna be able to bring water to this guy

[marble yarrow]

2 pumps can be accommodated by a single pipe

i actually do use 2 pumps to converge into 1 pipe then serves 4 facilities. but you need to pre-load each facility with water if you are not splitting the pipe in a correct way

[olive basalt]

so will this fix the not enough water issue

[tacit slate]

do i have anymore use for xiranite component should i scrap it?

[marble yarrow]

how many facilities does this serve

[olive basalt]

a forge of the sky and a crucible

[marble yarrow]

yeah thats good enough

[olive basalt]

yep its not sleeping no more

[marble yarrow]

just make sure the pipe converger is in correct direction

[nova lodge]

1 pump = 2 facilities :v

[marble yarrow]

actually you can remove that 1 pump once both reactor and planter has 50 water in them

you actually just needed the boost

[misty grotto]

Does this look correct to you?

[olive basalt]

ugly pipe work but eh

[fringe summit]

yes

[haughty wharf]

Better then what I would come up with

[olive basalt]

@marble yarrow yazhen production is back at 6

[fringe summit]

kick start the thermal first with 1 cell

before you fully swap over

[olive basalt]

any way that i can make this pipework look not so ugly

[marble yarrow]

you can turn off 1 of the pumps once both facilities that gets water, hits 50 in their storage

just use it when you need the boost, or when you add more facilities on that same network

[olive basalt]

hmm now my yazhen planter at the bottom is sleeping sometimes

[marble yarrow]

check the seeder

[teal hemlock]

all that pwm to save 1 battery a minute 💀

[marble yarrow]

maybe the yazhen planter waits too long

[olive basalt]

wait why is it sleeping again 😭 😭

[marble yarrow]

water supply died again lmao

[olive basalt]

like sometimes the pipes here just stop delivering water

and i dont know why

[shrewd knoll]

its because it only requires 50% of the farm to work to fulfill 100% of the production

[marble yarrow]

check if the converger near the 2 pumps is in correct orientation

[willow beacon]

a humble amount of credits

[shrewd knoll]

1 farm can handle 12/m wuling meds

[marble yarrow]

it isnt supposed to sleep since they direct it to the stash

[shrewd knoll]

then probably saturation

or storage full

[marble yarrow]

they have water problem instead which is weird

[olive basalt]

like i have THREE pumps and its barely enough for the crucible, if i connect it to the planter it starts sleeping

[shrewd knoll]

crucible uses at most 1 water sec

which is an entire pump

just check the farm for saturation, if there are enough seed/plants in the loop

[olive basalt]

so i split it here first for the forge

[nova lodge]

and that is mixing 2 items at the same time though....

[olive basalt]

but i need to split it here too, to make yazhen

[marble yarrow]

bruh

so how many does the pipe system actually serve

[misty grotto]

I think I screwed up, the batteries on the left horizontal rows are stuck

[marble yarrow]

idk why arent u using convergers

[olive basalt]

one forge of the sky, a crucible and a planter

[fringe summit]

you used the wrong one

need convergers going backward

[nova lodge]

.....so basically 1 pump serving 3 facilities?

[fringe summit]

something like this

[olive basalt]

no, i converged 2 pumps into one pipe

[marble yarrow]

2 pumps is already enough for them. but the problem is this:

if you laid them out in series, the first one to get will get actually half of the system until its full

[shrewd knoll]

do you have 3 splitters going one direction then?

[fringe summit]

1 pump serves 2, 2 pumps can be merged into 1 pipe

[shrewd knoll]

it can only support 2 splitters to one side

[nova lodge]

and haru just explained said limitation.

splitter alone is already quite limiting really.

[marble yarrow]

you can wait it out until the first one is full, then the rest will now fill up

[shrewd knoll]

so probably just readjust how the main converged pipe hit the first splitter

[fringe summit]

@misty grotto the flow should look like this, change the circled ones to convergers

[olive basalt]

why is it that water sometimes just stops flowing

[shrewd knoll]

yea its going one direction to 3 facilities

thats not working

[olive basalt]

that 1st converger is unnecessary but its just a demonstration

[shrewd knoll]

converge at the first splitter

[olive basalt]

yeah but i need to combine 2 pumps

cuz 1 isnt enough for 3

[crimson inlet]

imagine they added a timer configurator to the item control port

[fringe summit]

the converger holds 1 unit in itself, when it does that the middle pipe, at that point in time, has no liquid in it

[shrewd knoll]

so have them travel parralel until it reaches that first splitter

[crimson inlet]

this would make PWM easier

[analog elbow]

Why do you guys use such a long battery saver

[shrewd knoll]

the converge is fine

its the way you split in a single line

[gloomy escarp]

do you need to place a mining rig for every ore nodes for the end game blue print?

[olive basalt]

this is the first split

[analog elbow]

ofc it's end game

[crimson inlet]

it reduces excess power production for more battery that is not consumed

[analog elbow]

100% Mineral Beds must be mined

[shrewd knoll]

i guess it would be better to give you an example, i'll set one up real quick

[marble yarrow]

do it like this, the bottom one.

the top one gives more water to the first than the other

[olive basalt]

@shrewd knoll heres the entire pipe layout. if i converge at where the crucible connects, then both the planter and the crucible starts sleeping

[marble yarrow]

do the bottom one

[gloomy escarp]

idk how a base can even sustain the electricity to do so but ig just trust the process

[nova lodge]

thermal banks is the answer.

[shrewd knoll]

the top one is what you are doing, the bottom one is what you should be doing

[crimson inlet]

PWM in a nutshell Endfield:

• Delaying battery consumption depending on the range from the unloader to the thermal bank, with respect to their throughput and splitter/convergers.
• In turn, it reduces the usage of batteries to consistently produce a fixed amount of charge normally within the respect of the engineer's power usage.

[analog elbow]

Hmmm i mean mine is a lot smaller with that power usage.

[ancient zinc]

[analog elbow]

and it only has 3 seconds interval after reaching back to 100%

[olive basalt]

one question, why are the water directions reversed?

[shrewd knoll]

because it splits in the middle

so all of them get water equally

the top one prioritize the first splitter getting all the water

[crimson inlet]

damn

[shrewd knoll]

before the end

[ancient zinc]

Spliter but water version

[olive basalt]

honestly dude i think im stupid i dont understand it

all my facilities are on the same side

[ancient zinc]

Nah..u need to get motivated with plastic chair

[olive basalt]

i cant do that

[crimson inlet]

You're not getting those full 💀

[fringe summit]

more splits is for finer granularity on the decimals, bigger belt is just because you can most of the times

[analog elbow]

so more style points

[fringe summit]

it's easier to debug/visualize when you have a belt instead of a buncha splits next to each other

[vague dome]

Guys, what do you think of my base? I've spent around 3 days making it, any critique?

[warm zephyr]

not efficient enough, needs at least 5 more rows smh

[shrewd knoll]

i think you can fit a 4th item on each of those belts

[vague dome]

i'm maxxed

no, i cannot

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/what-lebron-james-wtf-huh-wth-gif-10041254

[fringe summit]

they won't spin with a 4th

[analog elbow]

Well different people can understand different perspectives i guess. Since splitters are easier to understand for me.

[warm zephyr]

smh letting the game tell you what u cant do

reals one ignore the game rules and continue building more rows

[crimson inlet]

pwm setups in the future

[misty grotto]

Ah. Seems it's operating, waiting till a battery passes through b4 calling it a success tho

[fringe summit]

ye just check the period up top on dige

[analog elbow]

better wait until 2 cycles

[fringe summit]

that's how long for a full cycle

[analog elbow]

mine once was off for 1%

luckily i checked it after 30 minutes

[fringe summit]

choose other solutions too if first one doesnt work

the ones with shorter periods tend to perform more stable

[misty grotto]

Ight it works

[fringe summit]

grats

[analog elbow]

cool

[fringe summit]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[analog elbow]

At what percentage% did it leave your power at before the battery starts feeding again?

[misty grotto]

Like 85%

[olive basalt]

like this?

[fringe summit]

wait

[misty grotto]

Full image

[ancient zinc]

[analog elbow]

85% for a wuling battery is still a lot with your power usage

[fringe summit]

if you're at 1900, you can just burn some originium lines for 200 W ea

I'm assuming you're doing only 1 battery line setup?

[olive basalt]

ok i did this and somehow nothing is sleeping anymore

[fringe summit]

can't type aaaa

[balmy stirrup]

what is selling

[ancient zinc]

[misty grotto]

I mean I have another thermal bank getting a constant feed?

[fringe summit]

I cashed like 5m today because someone decided to buy my cocacolas for 5.3k

[fringe summit]

no like, what's your originium consumption atm

or you're just setting up initial setups in wuling

[fringe summit]

nvm then you're good

what I meant was that for every 30 originium unused, you can conver that into 1 full belt, splitted into 4 thermals for 200 energy

[misty grotto]

Ah

Wait I can probably do that for v4

Ah, but I have no depots left lol

[fringe summit]

so if you're somehow cutting down your originium usage later on, you can just set target = power req - 200 x belts of originium

[fringe summit]

that's best to be turned into originicrust and just vendor it off

[olive basalt]

now i have to fix this part of the factory. why are they all sleeping so often?

[fringe summit]

for like 2k something bill/hour

if you're talking about the excess 20 originium production in v4

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/tradingmanias-trading-profits-dinero-money-gif-17799623713355841174

[candid moth]

https://tenor.com/view/hodl-diamond-diamond-hands-hold-bitcoin-gif-16408155061633630499

[fringe summit]

because your dense originium grinder isnt operating at full capacity

the gear facility also accepts 2 belts of xanite and 2 belts of funny crystal thing at max capacity

[balmy stirrup]

what is selling part wuling

[misty grotto]

Current situation

[fringe summit]

you should look into improving that first, the goal is to consume all ferrium and originium

cheat: 36 belts of ferrium into 18 belts of steel, 18 belts of originium into 9 belts of dense originium cubes

then you make 3 battery lines and 3 A drug lines

you can figure the plants out

[olive basalt]

yeah the origocrust production is kind of wonky

[brittle mauve]

wtf

[fringe summit]

you need 2 originium ore lines to get a dense originium facility operating at full capacity

[nova lodge]

ehe :3

[fringe summit]

aim for something like this

[olive basalt]

@fringe summit

[nova lodge]

what 3 splitters does to things :3

[misty grotto]

My main farm rn

[ebon pollen]

Do I need to build towers at mining areas that have enemies nearby?

Do enemies attack Mining Rigs?

[fringe summit]

ye that thing on the right is at half capacity

so you're producing 15/30

[olive basalt]

tbf

im producing 12 battery,6 yazhen and 2 xiranite component

is that the absolute max we can do right now

[fringe summit]

ye something along that line

[olive basalt]

ill have to sacrifice battery or yazhen

[fringe summit]

with rounding errors and what not

[olive basalt]

to make more components

[fringe summit]

you don't need more than 0.5 gear component/min

like you can't physically consume more

capped by stockbill

[fringe summit]

uhhh you'll need to clean up a bit imo, you're not using all your ferrium and that's gonna hurt your bill income

my advise is to use 12 unloaders for ferrium, 6 of the AIC unloaders for originium per outpost x3

turn the ferrium to either dense ferrium cube or steel in the outposts

then use the final product in main

[misty grotto]

I'm gonna be frank I didn't know I could place blueprints in sub AIC's

[fringe summit]

it'll be easier to manage

you can also move the AIC btw

life changing trick

[olive basalt]

i never knew i could change where the aic was

[crimson inlet]

AKEF x SDLG when?

[olive basalt]

crazy

[fringe summit]

uhhh sec

[nova lodge]

hold left click on buildings for an easier time moving it.
sorry, wrong ping.

[fringe summit]

lemme grab some screens of my setup

[olive basalt]

wrong ping?

[nova lodge]

don't mind it, my initial thought about the xiranite component part was...how was it possible O.O

12 battery is the absolute usage for xiranite

[fringe summit]

rounding errors

0.1 is counted as a 1 in the report

[fringe summit]

they might also have some xanite stashed

[olive basalt]

i do

[fringe summit]

ye that would explains why you can operate all of them

[nova lodge]

yeah, definitely the rounding part, but its good.
average around 1 per min.

[fringe summit]

the income will lower once the stash run out

[fringe summit]

you'll want something along the line of this in the sub AIC, (remember to mvoe the aic to the opposite side of the bus

make 3 identical sub AIC outposts like that

then each battery line can be something like this

[golden sapphire]

funny building thing i guess

[fringe summit]

and this for A drug

[fringe summit]

why do you even have the protostash there lol

[golden sapphire]

looks better probably

[fringe summit]

[ivory void]

what exactly should I build to make things better?

[fringe summit]

read what I just typed earlier

[ivory void]

whichhh

[golden sapphire]

let me be for real

pwm is a concept i still have no understanding ofd

[fringe summit]

outpost setup + gain

[golden sapphire]

i dont get why you would want to do it, i just think its cool

[fringe summit]

use this to cheat power https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en

[nova lodge]

i will never understand splitters for battery, got too much chen cells :v

[golden sapphire]

and

now endfield has crashed

or something

[turbid lance]

I get the idea of it, but if you ask me about the specifics I'll just stare at you blankly

[fringe summit]

last step is take picture with yvonne

[ivory void]

is there like blueprint that make things easy for meee

im confused

[fringe summit]

#aic-factory message

start with that

make 3 of those outposts

then make 3 batteries and 3 A drug setups

you can figure the C drug out

ez stuffs

[ivory void]

where to find codes

[crimson inlet]

Make your own, the old Factorio way

[fringe summit]

^

I don't really share codes

[shrewd knoll]

the old factorio way is with blueprints and construction drones

[fringe summit]

try #1461542035617091681

[olive basalt]

@fringe summit i kind of fixed the water issue by temporarily turning off the forge, letting it get to 50, and then turning it back up again

[ivory void]

😭

[olive basalt]

why did this even work?

[fringe summit]

I don't think that's good

[crimson inlet]

I'm not optimizing my battery, IMMA USE IT FOR ZIPPIES

[teal hemlock]

can't believe gilberta and wulfgard were gating all that ferrium in plateau...

[olive basalt]

idk man theyre not running out of water anymore lmao

[fringe summit]

I wasnt reading the whole conv properly, catch me up to speed?

[olive basalt]

oh basically i was using one pipeline for 3 facilities

and i was trying to make it work

[crimson inlet]

I get water just by separating 2 sides of the water lines

[fringe summit]

can I see your splits

[olive basalt]

and then i had the ingenius idea to close one off to let it fill up

[fringe summit]

if that's the case then that's because your split is favoring 1 facility over the other

[fringe summit]

for those you usually need to wait until the favored facility saturate before the other ones stopped starving for water

[olive basalt]

thats prolly why it works now

[willow beacon]

holy shit perlica LOVES me

[olive basalt]

i sent screenshots

[crimson inlet]

Lowlight should give us an open-source list of how facilities and transport works

[shrewd knoll]

it's because the crucible can siphon 2 water per 2 second which throws off the water pipe

[fringe summit]

this guy is the problem here

[shrewd knoll]

anything else, would have worked fine

[olive basalt]

but how am i gonna get water to the forge of the sky otherwise

[crimson inlet]

like priority for input/output and such

[fringe summit]

but in theory, if you are truly only using this pipe for 3 facilities then it should work

you have an income of 2/s

[olive basalt]

hes saturated

[fringe summit]

then it splits into 1/s for the forge and 1/s for the other stuffs

then water will slowly split into 0.5/s for both of the other facilities

which should be just enough for them to function at a stable rate

unless you're doing double fusion at the crucible

[olive basalt]

After i let the favoured forge saturate, it started to work pretty well and nothing was getting starved

will it keep working or is this temporary lmao

[fringe summit]

ye then it's just a problem of the split not dividing water evenly

[fringe summit]

it should work permanently

[shrewd knoll]

it will eventually stop working but that'll be a really long time

[fringe summit]

unless you introduce more facilities, then you'll need to fix it

[crimson inlet]

Adding a pipe to the split-forge might fix that

[nova lodge]

fraction too small to identify....just like battery usage =/=

[olive basalt]

on the top side?

[shrewd knoll]

because regardless of how much the crucible uses, it still siphons the water per tick

and clogs for that second

[worthy condor]

Hi there! Looking for a friend to help guide me with factory stuff. I’m in endgame, if anybody would be able to chat and help me! 🙂

[fringe summit]

yes

lemme make something real quick to show you how you can fix it

[olive basalt]

so instead of a split at the crucible i should use the top one for the planter

[fringe summit]

no

[craggy pawn]

Hai

[fringe summit]

you just fix the splitter

[olive basalt]

ok the problem is the pumps are really far so i kinda have to do this

[crimson inlet]

is it better to have splitters be 1 pipe away from a facility when you want them to split evenly?

[proper ravine]

MFW i realise that the regional transfer only gives you 0.4166 units/s... wtf

[shrewd knoll]

just bring the pipe further down and split near the crucible

instead of at the forge

[fringe summit]

make it like this

[olive basalt]

yeah but it cant go that far

[fringe summit]

place a tank somewhere along the line

that will extend your range

[shrewd knoll]

you can put a pipe water restrictor

[fringe summit]

for another 80m

[shrewd knoll]

to extend it too

[fringe summit]

that too

[olive basalt]

this one?

[shrewd knoll]

yea

since it breaks the pipe

[craggy pawn]

Should i continue making more blue batteries than purple batteries or should i make more purple batteries than blue batteries

[fringe summit]

basically do this

[shrewd knoll]

no he just wants it to go longer

one is enough

[turbid lance]

Purple as soon you can imo

[fringe summit]

ye but isnt where the splitter is the max range

[craggy pawn]

Ok so more purple than blue got it thanks

[fringe summit]

0 sanity

[nova lodge]

[willow beacon]

nvm bruh i got a little trigger happy

blew 30m in one day i'm cooked

[fringe summit]

it do be like that

[shrewd knoll]

splurge on drill

[olive basalt]

@fringe summit ok so, heres the deal