aic-factory

[mellow iris]

so i found a blueprint for buck a on reddit 38x30 and now my productions look like this 😭

[hollow drum]

https://tenor.com/view/tiger-tiger-woods-big-dog-salutation-what-up-gif-2478767235926945002

[mellow iris]

rate my outputs

[wispy nimbus]

No new Wuling factory content fr

[wet pagoda]

rip ferium

[hollow drum]

this guy doing what i did w jincao/yahzen fluid lmaoo

[mellow iris]

there are surely more drills i can place for them

[wet pagoda]

true

[hollow drum]

i just have a yard full of tanks which are filled with lung mountain dew

[mellow iris]

when i run out i can shut it down let it fill then do it again

[wet pagoda]

its 1080/min

or something like this

[wispy nimbus]

Leader of Wuling said Xiranite is Sooo scarce

[wet pagoda]

also region level increae it soo

[grizzled osprey]

[low obsidian]

A pool of water=infinite water

A deep ruin water=40K water

[wet pagoda]

we will still sell it at high price

[grizzled osprey]

Why're you poisoning all the fields with that radioactive liquid

[wispy nimbus]

Meanwhile US making 100K Xiranite a day

[hollow drum]

btw @golden burrow im gonna try to get under 18 batteries and 20ish on buck A and citrome C

i have no idea how tho, my usage of space is terrible

[wet pagoda]

minecraft water source be like

[jagged vector]

Cant wait for forge of the sky expansion

[wispy nimbus]

Don't u want Wuling covered by Blights Again?

[mellow iris]

region level only increase puritys of nodes in x region so far i think originum area is the furthes that has been purified or lodespring either way there is a region or two that can be maxed

[low obsidian]

I thought it was a file 😭

[grizzled osprey]

Pool? Wait till you see the less than ankle deep water patches in the city with infinite water

[wet pagoda]

i was talking for ferrium

[golden burrow]

fyi if you wanna do optimal then its 18 hc batteries + 18 meds a + 24 meds c, but if you wanna go funny then have fun

[grizzled osprey]

If wuling doesn't get covered by blight I won't be able to use my cool spray drone to spray down the blight

[wet pagoda]

with this you ue like 98% of minable ressrouces

you got some spare originium

[mellow iris]

i was clarifying exactly how rdl increase output it doesnt make all drills yield more ores

[wet pagoda]

mb

[brave geyser]

Wait, do you have to manually sleep excess Thermal Power units? I built like a hundred and they've apparently eaten my entire purple Battery stockpile despite my factory consuming just a few thousand power, which doesn't add up

[golden burrow]

if they active (connected) and fed they keep eating

[wet pagoda]

yeah batterie use even if you ont use power

[brave geyser]

That's so dummmmbbbbbbbbb

[hollow drum]

is it just 3 + 3 + 4 units running at 6 / min or is there something different

[brave geyser]

[golden burrow]

yes you right

[wet pagoda]

yes.

[low obsidian]

Yeah that's what i mean

[grizzled osprey]

Ofc they're eating batteries for constant power production, you can't stockpile over 100k power in the entire system

[low obsidian]

file

[hollow drum]

ok so my concern is somehow fitting the 4 citrome lines LOL

[brave geyser]

Is there no way to automate energy consumption balancing? Darn this game and its lack of circuit networks

I hate manual labour

[hollow drum]

is it manual

i setup my factories to produce enough batteries to support itself and just fuhget about it

[wispy nimbus]

Fangyi wont crying about Xiranite shortage Ever again

[low obsidian]

Infinite 😭

[brave geyser]

I want it to automatically use exactly as many batteries as it needs to stay at max energy and not one more, even if demands change in the future.

[nova lodge]

hmm....any idea on how to repair a tower besides scrapping it and rebuilding it again?

[low obsidian]

Like it's literally A PUDDLE 😭😭

I love the view

[grizzled osprey]

Sure you can... Just use splitters to make it so you alternate between periods of no power supply and high power supply so that your power keeps dipping and recharging

[wispy nimbus]

She's going to lecture endmin 48 hours after that lmaooo

[grizzled osprey]

That's way deeper than the water in the city, looks like someone split a bucket of water, yields infinite water

[brave geyser]

I don't understand. How will that let me scale energy consumption automatically (e.g. if I build another base, it will automatically start using the required amount of extra batteries to power it and not more)?

I have all my power in one Sub-PAC and was kind of hoping to never touch it again.

[teal hemlock]

I think you manually choose the desired power, the auto part is its on/off battery supplying cycle

[golden burrow]

my guy i don't think what you wanna do is possible

[brave geyser]

This is the worst Factorio clone ever

[grizzled osprey]

It will automate stuff until you change things, then you'll have to adjust it as per the increase/decrease in consumption. That's the best you can do rn, devs didn't intend for batteries to work the way you want them to

[golden burrow]

fair enough actually 😔

[hollow drum]

i think the problem is thinking it was made as a Factorio clone

[river robin]

Is this efficient?

[strange garnet]

does anyone have a picture of the estimate yield you can get from all ores in valley iv

[grizzled osprey]

although it's dum that the endmin made batteries function this way

[golden burrow]

560 orig 240 amet 1080 ferro

that's cap

[strange garnet]

ty 🙏

[analog elbow]

Somebody give this man some Wuling Stock Bills

[brave geyser]

I mean, have you seen it? It is literally Factorio but they gave the buildings funny names, dropped Research, Inserters and Circuit Network and called it a day

Only upside is it's on my phone

[hollow drum]

i dont think that means its a Factorio clone but I digress

[golden burrow]

ngl playing a factory game on a phone sounds like a nightmare

[hollow drum]

is there a reason why you use Protocol Stashes instead of just, belts?

[low obsidian]

[grizzled osprey]

I do it on my tab, big screen, no problems

[brave geyser]

If it walks like a Factorio, talks like a Factorio and swims like a Factorio, why is it not a Factorio

[low obsidian]

Nuuh it's easy

[analog elbow]

I play on my phone.

[golden burrow]

yes... i... said... phone...

[low obsidian]

Phone is fun

[wispy nimbus]

Factorio Players meets Endfield

[golden burrow]

😭

[grizzled osprey]

mobile devices

[hollow drum]

akshually tab isnt phone

[golden burrow]

now you're just putting words in my mouth 😭

[analog elbow]

Having a PC means you can only access the factory when you're at home. I can access it anywhere

[grizzled osprey]

[brave geyser]

Desktops are technically mobile devices. Source: Moved with one.

[young stag]

i’m gonna say no

[low obsidian]

I usually do this people say phone load faster in dijiang

[grizzled osprey]

[young stag]

mainly because of the 3 billion protocol stash used as storage

[hollow drum]

I keep it only in the PC so that I can run away from Perlica's gaze once in a while

[analog elbow]

Locked Meta Transfer Moment

[young stag]

i still do this btw

[golden burrow]

we can do this with one ctrl shift click

[hollow drum]

Big Borb must be evaded

[analog elbow]

I do that for Batteries for Min maxing my wuling bat

[young stag]

we only need to hold item and press the “batch move item of same type” button

[analog elbow]

I have around 5K on Wuling depot. Should last me for half a year.

[hollow drum]

yeah I was thinking wouldnt it be slowing it down instead?

[paper magnet]

cd album ahh cover for today's photo

[young stag]

eh

[golden burrow]

you 2 clicks, we do it with 1

[hollow drum]

if you had one per line sure, but this was more like 5 per line

[grizzled osprey]

What if we count each key individually

[young stag]

1.5k batteries only last you 16 hours

16.6667

[analog elbow]

Huh?

[young stag]

40s burn rate

[low obsidian]

Yeah that's basically 3 click

[golden burrow]

shit

[analog elbow]

Bro didn't read my "min max"

[golden burrow]

😔

foiled again

[low obsidian]

Ctrl+shift+click=3

[grizzled osprey]

[marble yarrow]

its just ctrl click

wdym with shift

[young stag]

oh the battery edge blueprint thing

or what

[analog elbow]

Extra steps

[low obsidian]

He said shift somehow

[analog elbow]

Yes.

[golden burrow]

don't you need shift

[marble yarrow]

no

[analog elbow]

The more you know

[marble yarrow]

lmaooo

[low obsidian]

well i play in mobile so i don't know

[golden burrow]

nah shift is so you don't have to drag

[hollow drum]

fake PC gamer

[golden burrow]

no?

[grizzled osprey]

We don't have to worry about stuff like that on mobile

[golden burrow]

am i crazy

😔

[analog elbow]

Technically you can't copy and just call it a day since it always depends on your power isage

[low obsidian]

mobile gang

[grizzled osprey]

I use a tab, am I an imposter?

[hollow drum]

i only have a phone and it might explode if i try to run Endfield on it

[young stag]

much more easy to use imo

[analog elbow]

Factory Way to solve puzzles. thinking outside the box

[marble yarrow]

shift = 1 stack
ctrl = all
alt = half

[young stag]

i don’t run endfield in pc because mine is a piece of shit

[hollow drum]

also got bad eyes

I will enjoy Endfield on a 24"

[young stag]

i could never get myself to play a game on a pc

[grizzled osprey]

[young stag]

i have to look down at the keyboard too much or else i start button mashing

[runic epoch]

trust me the experience on lowest res 30fps isnt that bad

[golden burrow]

shift = quick move ie not drag
ctrl = move as much as possible
shift + ctrl = move as much as possible with a click?

[young stag]

using a laptop fixes this but also brings the 90°C temps

[golden burrow]

you still have to drag with just ctrl no?

[grizzled osprey]

Start with simpler stuff, do hollow knight you don't have that many buttons you'll get used to which does what

[analog elbow]

always buy an external cooler if you wanna play games on laptop

[bitter moat]

does anyone have xiranite component plan

[hollow drum]

it helps that 99% of games use wasd to move, shift to run and space to jump

[runic epoch]

ctrl click doesn't need the drag

[low obsidian]

I just seperate them

[young stag]

that was before i changed the thermal paste

[marble yarrow]

no

[analog elbow]

Cool

[young stag]

highest it’ll go is 75-80 now

[marble yarrow]

literally

[golden burrow]

huh okay

in my defense

i've ever only used this once

[low obsidian]

I make it xiranite alone
And that packed origicrust

After that i use depot unloader and make the xiranite component

[golden burrow]

not manual transfer gang

[young stag]

i play shooting games so there’s a million other buttons

doesn’t help they’re all fast paced

[hollow drum]

i use two lines

one for dense origo, other for the gearing unit

can probably do just one line but my wuling aic space is not big (didnt take upgrade 2 yet)

[cyan forge]

U mean a fan?

[runic epoch]

12345
Shift
R
Ctrl
what else do these shooting games need 😭
Unless you tell me you're running doom

[golden burrow]

have you looked at #1461542035617091681

[hollow drum]

shooter games are the perfect practice for it tbh

[bitter moat]

can u send the plans for em?

[hollow drum]

I play in Asia sorry LOL

[river robin]

Why not?

[young stag]

rmb for ADS, r for reload, n for nvg, etc

[earnest steeple]

You can do it. But its not great because your base will be unpowered for a bit when letting backup power kick in. Basically, you need to use the converger belt logic that it takes priority that it'll pick an item from a belt before picking an item from say a depot unloader. Then the item is in an infinite loop that depends on power, for example, a separator/filler duo. Once there's no power, the item line stops working, and the battery lines will now go into the converger. You use a splitter with item port to separate the item line and the battery line, and the battery goes into a thermal bank to power things again. Im sure others here are smarter than me who can help you build something, but your whole factory will be in a standstill until the battery reaches the thermal bank.

[grizzled osprey]

You don't mash reload or nvg tho

[hollow drum]

I played Apex and now I can do all this fancy timing stuff on other WASD games

[grizzled osprey]

There's not a lot to mash

[hollow drum]

also yeah theres no mashing other than WASD and shift/space for movement heavy shooters

[young stag]

i do mash reload what

[hollow drum]

WHY?

[grizzled osprey]

[hollow drum]

gotta be the first person who mash reloads

[grizzled osprey]

Why mash reload, frequent reloads is understandable but mashing?

[young stag]

blessed be shitty hitreg and low capacity magazines

[hollow drum]

thats frequent reloading not reload mashing

[young stag]

but anyway

[grizzled osprey]

gets into a fight reloads

[marble yarrow]

i know bro is talking about peak

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhAKvgxINFg

[cyan forge]

[grizzled osprey]

I'm just thinking how stupid me woulda never come up with this on my own

[hollow drum]

i saw someone try to theorycraft power on Twt with like a grid layout for thermal banks

is this the video?

[golden burrow]

mfs breaking the laws of chemistry just to save batteries

[cyan forge]

I mean when +1 bat/min in wuling means alot of bucks, hell yeah

[grizzled osprey]

Is this sacred knowledge passed down through generations of factory workers players?

[cyan forge]

The factory must grow afterall

[runic epoch]

I'm pretty sure you make more than enough with 12/6 on normal usage

[cyan forge]

Not enuf to bankrupt the trade

The objective is to get it to 0 afterall

[grizzled osprey]

.stonks

[cinder sun]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929296146497639/G6Ih57bacAITmvm.png?ex=691ff17b&is=691e9ffb&hm=91e95e84256e6e195565713e124e50b7d0551f1528c7ee8642b763175e1d9290&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=527&height=395

[golden burrow]

with 4.5 syringe/drink per min you need 8.3 batteries per min

[hollow drum]

stonkh

[golden burrow]

to bankrupt the pirates

[cyan forge]

Rn't we capped at 6...? Or is it 12?

[young stag]

yap

just import hc from valley 4

[hollow drum]

i need a break from 76 so might as well spend 5 hours modifying my factory agaib

[cyan forge]

I honestly forgot

[young stag]

why minmax profits smh

[hollow drum]

batteries?

[golden burrow]

batteries cap at 12 if you spend all your xiranite on it

[hollow drum]

i think its 12 since you can get a 2nd forge

[cyan forge]

12, ok mhm

[modest bluff]

You can't be promoting quantum cloning on Talos-II without showing investors you have a
Multi-million Stock Bills Privatized Planetary Militia

[cyan forge]

Honestly, i should do that but at the same time, am way too lazy

[teal hemlock]

what I am trying to achieve now is figure out how to get 1 item every 40s using splits and merges. if I can do this, then I can power N-1 banks normally (every 40s so no batts wasted), and have the LAST bank as the decider going on/off that balances the power so that more is not used. I just struggle figuring out how to get 40s from splits and merges connections, I don't have a generalized idea of how it would be set up basically, since splits multiply times by either 2 or 3, and merges are useful since oversaturated inputs tend to create 2 x K seconds of lag, I am sure it is this lag that allows to achieve more nuanced numbers

[golden burrow]

uhh

someone already did the maths for the negative power strats

[grizzled osprey]

I think there's a fundamental flaw in his logic

[golden burrow]

isn't there even a website

for this

[teal hemlock]

figuring yourself is more fun

[grizzled osprey]

You don't have to get 1 battery in it every 40 secs

[nocturne marsh]

no comments

[grizzled osprey]

You need higher time

[golden burrow]

i'm gonna be honest it doesn't seem like you're figuring it out

[grizzled osprey]

Doing every 40secs is just the same as directly connecting it

[grizzled osprey]

Yea I agree

[golden burrow]

omg john endfield himself

[hollow drum]

John [game name] is too funny icl

John Fallout

[grizzled osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-endmin-gif-11079342193382951778

[hollow drum]

Pengmin

[teal hemlock]

yes but if say you need 4 banks, and you have 3 powered at all times, you will be in deficit unless you plug in the 4th, wouldn't such intermmittence achieve the same effect over time?

[earnest steeple]

1 in 40s is 1 in 2s (full belt) split 20x. But there's no point, since saturating it does the same thing as others have mentioned. If you want to figure it out yourself, I still think looking at other resources helps in figuring out the math, and the gotcha from splitters and convergers

[golden burrow]

there's a suspicious connection between chinese open world gachas protagonists and the color scheme of black white and yellow

[cyan forge]

Belt is 30 item/min

If u want 1 every 40s
Need to be 1/40s or 3/120s

Normal is
60/120s
So u just have to discard...
Splitter split to 3
60 -> 20 -> 7.3 -> (split two output) ~3.5

[golden burrow]

genshin 1 2 3 all have this color scheme

what does this mean

[grizzled osprey]

I don't understand what you're tryna do

[cyan forge]

2 splitter with 2 end to depot
1 splitter with 1 end to depot

It's gonna be closer to 1 battery every... 35s? Maybe

[thick junco]

question am i really need to care abt my factory electricity or its fine if I just make many zipline and some turret without putting it back to stash or its just better for not making any zipline and keep putting putting back every turret to stash after usage and keep focusing the electricity only for produce thing?

[cyan forge]

Am not super good w math

[cyan forge]

Why stash?

[grizzled osprey]

Yea split to 3, send one back to depot, merge 2

[teal hemlock]

currently I need 4k power, the nominal banks for this would be 4, but that results in 200 + 1100x4 = 4600 power, so 600 surplus, so instead, keep 3 active at all times: 200 + 3300 = 3500, then have the last bank (1100) go on/off so that the average over time is just over my desired 4k, instead of the nominal 4600, this is my idea

[hollow drum]

simple solution: have excess power limit so you dont have to worry

[cyan forge]

Uh idk why the merge is required unless u want a precise 40s but that's gonna be alot of math

[grizzled osprey]

You're using HC batteries?

[hollow drum]

I only run 4.6k on Valley 4 and I have zipped like the entire map

i dont use turrets tho

[teal hemlock]

the 1100 part

[hollow drum]

I just fight the monsters with my bare hands

[marble yarrow]

I keep essence turrets, but remove the pylons when im done

[cyan forge]

U're gonna use it when farming essence

It takes ages otherwise

[thick junco]

Cuz the turret use electricity and its usage only temporarily ig?

[hollow drum]

yea removing the pylons seems like a better idea

you just remove 1 thing

[grizzled osprey]

Ok you seem to have the correct idea I guess

[cyan forge]

I guess yeah, pylon removal is fine

[grizzled osprey]

Lemme think one sec

[marble yarrow]

You can spreadsheet it, thats how i did mine

[hollow drum]

yeah I havent gotten to that part, I only finished building 2/4 of my main team like last week and decided to ease off the game lol

[cyan forge]

Nice

[thick junco]

Ah yeah thats a really great idea thanks

[cyan forge]

It's rly not worth ur time minmaxing that when u r not yet in endgame

[marble yarrow]

Oop wrong reply

[teal hemlock]

I am trying like a madman 😭 I am not the brightest but it's ok, the process is fun and I got some good suggestions above

[cyan forge]

Cos u're just gonna scrap ur blueprint lmao

[grizzled osprey]

You can also just use batteries, they run for a long time

[uneven atlas]

where can you find guide on AIC factory?

[teal hemlock]

I know I kinda do it mostly for fun

[cyan forge]

Teach me

[hollow drum]

the simulators in game i guess?

i also see random BPs on Twt and try to copy ideas of it

[uneven atlas]

huh but im still kinda clueless, like there are some questions that remain unanswered

like thermal bank, how many can you build exactly? like infinite?

[hollow drum]

folks here seem smart (except me) so you can probably ask away

[cyan forge]

There's no guide on aic factory

U just read what they do and use em according to the recipe

[grizzled osprey]

More than you'll ever need

[golden burrow]

the site in the pins has a tutorial that says it's better than the ingame one if you're interested

[cyan forge]

If that's not for u, copy a blueprint

[uneven atlas]

there are like 6 slot for the core input but it seems like we need to use a lot more materials so where am i gonna get more slot?

[hollow drum]

have you unlocked depot buses yet

[cyan forge]

Depot bus

[grizzled osprey]

Depot unloaders

[golden burrow]

you'll be able to buy depot buses and make unloaders later

[cyan forge]

U haven't maxed ur aic

[uneven atlas]

yeah

[hollow drum]

yeah so those are extra I/O slots basically

[cyan forge]

U have alot of things locked still in early game

Tbf

[uneven atlas]

is there like a particular thing i should aim mor or just build the AIC for whatever i need?

[cyan forge]

U need to find the yellow baloon guy to unlock abunch of aic essential

[hollow drum]

if youre still progressing thru story, just build what you can sell to the outposts

[cyan forge]

Build what u need and progress main story as far as u can

[golden burrow]

the main goal is to make things to sell to outposts, so just make whatever is the most expensive thing they'll buy

[cyan forge]

Is my advice, idk if others will agree

[hollow drum]

I didnt worry abt optimizing my V4 AICs until I finished V4 story

[grizzled osprey]

Need to get depot nodes asap

[hollow drum]

and you cant really do much w Wuling AICs anyway

[cyan forge]

Get the rabbit guy for trading stock

It gives way more money than early factory production

Lmao

[grizzled osprey]

Worse than depot nodes early game

[uneven atlas]

it seems like i can get by as of rn cause everyday i just have 28k of everything

[cyan forge]

Oh cos u can do other ppl's quest?

[grizzled osprey]

Yea plus you can't buy a lot of stocks on low level redistribution points

[uneven atlas]

i just sold today for like3 million but the depot node give me like 300k

[cyan forge]

Fair enuf

[cyan forge]

U need to be upgrading ur aic man

3 mil can max ur valley n main aic am sure

[grizzled osprey]

Ok then you have enough to max both nodes and redistribution points so do both, max main AIC area

[cyan forge]

[grizzled osprey]

It takes under a million

[hollow drum]

yeah use it to upgrade the AICs

[cyan forge]

Rite, yeh

[uneven atlas]

i already max all of them, that's how i got 3 mil

[cyan forge]

Max ur aic

[hollow drum]

just need to find Steward (yellow balloon guy, he is always there near the AICs)

[cyan forge]

Unlock depot buses

[marble yarrow]

You are already doin great 👌

[grizzled osprey]

Then you have enough money sources, do main quest, have you unlocked the AIC development index?

[uneven atlas]

yes

[grizzled osprey]

Cuz if you have then just get those depot unloaders and start building

[uneven atlas]

i unlocked all three levels

[uneven atlas]

it seems hard to use i havent done the tutorial for that

[hollow drum]

nah theyre pretty straight forward

[cyan forge]

Copy a blueprint

[hollow drum]

basically like I said, extra I/O slots

[cyan forge]

[hollow drum]

tutorial gives you an idea

[grizzled osprey]

It's not that hard, at least they were easy for me I skipped all tutorials too

[cyan forge]

I did tutorial cos of xp

[grizzled osprey]

Tutorials give you oroberyls

[cyan forge]

[grizzled osprey]

You can skip them

And still get rewards

[golden burrow]

honestly just do the tutorials if unsure

[cyan forge]

That feature came a week after launch

[grizzled osprey]

There's a button

[wet pagoda]

tutorial give you brain damage

[cyan forge]

They fkin duped me

[grizzled osprey]

Oh so that's why I didn't see it earlier

[golden burrow]

it's not like it takes 3 hours to do

[cyan forge]

I hated it so much

[real marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-qianyu-silly-gif-2603914693282121266

[cyan forge]

I was doing that and then my friend was like

[grizzled osprey]

Understandable

[cyan forge]

Look they dropped a new update, we can skip tutorial

I was like HUH

[hollow drum]

i also skipped all of them other than 5 i did before the option to skip

[cyan forge]

I spent fkin 3 hrs on all the tutorials

Btw

So yeah

[wet pagoda]

i did all of them, worst experience ever

[cyan forge]

[real marsh]

[golden burrow]

is it actually that bad

wtf

[cyan forge]

Agreed

[golden burrow]

i thought you guys were factorio experts

[cyan forge]

It's more like

[uneven atlas]

the build people make seems really complex

[grizzled osprey]

I hated simulations from the moment they made me redo the entire thing for doing it before the simulation asked me to

[cyan forge]

They teach u how to do sth but at the same time not rly

[hollow drum]

I just learnt the factory like a true 2020s worker

hands on experience w 0 knowledge

[real marsh]

im so happy i dropped them when i was like, yhea i have 2 functional braincells this aint hard

[cyan forge]

Like they have the sequence and u reset everytime u fuck up a lil

And the bonus was especially shit

It takes longer than the actual main tutorial

[golden burrow]

i'm gonna be honest i had 0 problems

[real marsh]

my synapses are still firing every hour i dont need this type tutorial

[grizzled osprey]

You don't jump to those builds... You kinda skipped making easier build when you should've, you can still start figuring out builds rn tho, even tho that'd sacrifice profits a bit

[golden burrow]

just speedrunning through

[cyan forge]

It's easy to do once u know where everything is

[grizzled osprey]

Yes

[golden burrow]

wait

[hollow drum]

btw

[golden burrow]

gacha player: tutorial is hard

[hollow drum]

i need to clarify something

[cyan forge]

My problem was partly that i was confused on what it asked

[grizzled osprey]

They're bad

[golden burrow]

😭

we're so cooked

[real marsh]

its not hard, its just bad

[cyan forge]

It's not bad cos it's hard. It's bad cos it takes so much time

[wet pagoda]

i dont like how tutotiral repeat the same things in each tuto

[cyan forge]

Gimme back my 3 hrs

[cyan forge]

Yea, this

[grizzled osprey]

I didn't listen to it and achieved all goals of simulation but it didn't give me my reward and made me redo cuz I didn't listen to it step by step

[cyan forge]

It's so ass

[uneven atlas]

i mean how can you like fit so many features into one thing, like people say to build gear, then healing, like abunch of stuff but how

[cyan forge]

This is also my issue

[hollow drum]

lets say i want a 100% buck A unit running

does it mean i need
4 steel lines for bottles
4 buckflower lines (two shredders) + 2 sandleaf lines for the gbp

is this the right math

[golden burrow]

and i'm saying that it didn't take that much time (for me)

like

[cyan forge]

It's the same as the chara tutorial tbf. A lil misclick and reset

[golden burrow]

idk uhh skill issue?

[cyan forge]

I just hated all the tutorial cos i alr know what to do

[cyan forge]

Eh, fair

[golden burrow]

na i mean if you really had problems with it fine

just...

[real marsh]

the craft is 10s divide the ammounts needed by 5 and thats the ammount of input belts you need for that rescource

[grizzled osprey]

That's the thing, you start by making LC batteries, then buck capsule C then SC batteries, buck capsule B, then HC batteries and buck capsule A
All the while producing components or parts as per needs

[hollow drum]

you can open recipes from buildings to see what each of them can make though

[golden burrow]

i'm surprised there's so many ppl with issues

[cyan forge]

U don't build gear in the endgame

[grizzled osprey]

But you just skipped and speedran story

[hollow drum]

yeah i was scaling it back to the base comps

[golden burrow]

i dunno man i'm not the one having issues with the tutorial

[hollow drum]

I realize it needs 2 lines of each to run at 100%

[cyan forge]

Did u play beta?

[real marsh]

alrigth then yhea you need 2 steel wich is 4 ferrium and 2 sandleaf

[grizzled osprey]

I don't have issues
I procrastinated and it paid off

[golden burrow]

nope

[cyan forge]

Well tbh idk

[hollow drum]

so to feed one Buck A I need 4 Steel Lines and 2 GBP Grinders

[nova lodge]

personally didn't have issues overall.
tutorial might be a tad repetitve, but it did gear me up well to tackle nearly all the production and gameplay as aspects.
i hadn't copy any blueprints yet for production.

[cyan forge]

I feel like u rn't the type to care abt how long u've been playing, the tutorial is prolly not that bad

I do, so i have problem w it

[real marsh]

yhea that sounds rigth, dont have the game up atm stil traveling home

[golden burrow]

it took me like

an hour for everything

uhh

well whatever let's just move on

[cyan forge]

Meh, yeh this is pointless

I have skill issue, point noted

[grizzled osprey]

I hate them cuz I wanna learn how stuff works myself, and by the time I do they'd be useless

[cyan forge]

Oh i see

[golden burrow]

i kinda feel bad now tbh

[cyan forge]

Fair enuf

[grizzled osprey]

[hollow drum]

swear my factory would be better if i knew how to arrange it

[real marsh]

lads can we have a qol update so the database also shows you what inputs are needed for for example condensed steel

[cyan forge]

Meh is fineee, am just joking around rly

Aside from my disdain towards tutorial, the rest r fine

[real marsh]

cuz now it just says Yo you need ferrium dust and sandleaf dust but doesnt state the ammount unless you actualu go to that specific recipy

[golden burrow]

you can post something in #1461653979862925498 if you want

actually probably someone has already did

[cyan forge]

That aside tho hmm, is 2 bat/min on wuling good or bad?

[golden burrow]

so just bump it or smth

[digital oasis]

More of my 0 sanity activities

[cyan forge]

Mine kept on fluctuating between 2 and 3

[golden burrow]

uhhh the cap is 12 so uhh

[real marsh]

Pandai's sanity is gone

[dense wyvern]

2 bat production per min sounds low yeah.

[cyan forge]

Even tho i tried keeping it to 1 when i can

[real marsh]

we lost em

[golden burrow]

is it consumption?

[grizzled osprey]

He's talking about usage I'm sure

[golden burrow]

not production?

[cyan forge]

2 usage, not the production

Ye

I know ppl r mostly at 3/min

[real marsh]

thats fine no?

[cyan forge]

If they don't minmax

[grizzled osprey]

Now make bad apple with relay lines

[hollow drum]

I think I am just under 3/min

[golden burrow]

unless you're doing the shenanigans™, 1 thermal battery uses 1.5 per min period

[cyan forge]

Idk, i see sum ppl at 1/min

Which is closer to 1.5/min

[real marsh]

shenanigans?

[hollow drum]

theres nothing to build in Wuling so

[dense wyvern]

Consumption 2.5 should be fine. Optimally you could probably reduce it to 1.5 per min if you optimize it.

[cyan forge]

Mine is prolly closer to 2.3/min

[grizzled osprey]

I'm probably at 1 per minute if I round it off

[digital oasis]

Idk what that means but i'll figure it out soon

[cyan forge]

I am optimizing it

[dense wyvern]

If you really optimize it you can probably run 40 ziplines with the factory but no towers.

[cyan forge]

It's just rly shit cos the setup am dealing with is ass

I mean am ass

[hollow drum]

do people run meds/drink + battery in wuling

[last gull]

blueprint help plsss for mid game.... steel and capsule A

[hollow drum]

w what ratio?

[cyan forge]

Ye

[hollow drum]

im running yahzen c and batts

[cyan forge]

4.5 consumables, 12 battery

[last gull]

yooo im also sid

[dense wyvern]

Yeah.

[golden burrow]

me same

wait

[dense wyvern]

Unless you import manually then 4.5 is the number.

[grizzled osprey]

I do Yazhen and jincao combined plus batteries

[hollow drum]

yeah okay i have space usage problems w my entire AIC

[cyan forge]

I've been considering farming poop lately

[uneven slate]

anyone remember what quest unlocked this mine area in power plateau

[golden burrow]

if you're running 12 batteries why are you needing optimization

[hollow drum]

how tf yall getting 12 batts

I am tweaking

[real marsh]

wulfgard story mission

[golden burrow]

no comps

[grizzled osprey]

Wulfgard

[cyan forge]

2 forge gives u 12

[uneven slate]

thanks

[hollow drum]

im pretty sure I switched components for yahzen C

[real marsh]

can you get more than 12 bats?

[grizzled osprey]

Probably put some xiranite into components or smth

[golden burrow]

impossible

[hollow drum]

my AICs are just not that compact

[dense wyvern]

You have to run full 3 Dense Originium dust and 1 Xiranite belts into a factory to get it.

[real marsh]

Unlucky

[last gull]

i need factory helpp plsss amy mid game playerss??

[cyan forge]

It's 2 battery prod & 1 consumable prod

Total

[golden burrow]

#1461542035617091681 help yourself

[hollow drum]

no I know, I meant I am not using my AIC space wisely

[cyan forge]

At peak efficiency ofc

[last gull]

sad

[cyan forge]

Hmm interesting

Cos like

[hollow drum]

I also dont have the 2nd expansion for the Core or Stockade iirc

[dense wyvern]

if you did the expansion Wuling AIC should be more than spacious enough.

[cyan forge]

My wuling subaic is empty

[dense wyvern]

Same.

[cyan forge]

And i made all that

Idk how u ran out of space

For that to become a problem

[golden burrow]

you have free real estate in wuling man

[cyan forge]

[hollow drum]

if i showed you the

older version of my Wuling Core

you would not wonder why

lemme see if I can find

[cyan forge]

I even have enuf space in main aic for me to swap 1 forge from battery to poop production

If i ever need to

[fast wagon]

Help my brain💀

[dense wyvern]

I turn stuff off to save battery

[cyan forge]

What r u even making

[hollow drum]

didnt find it but found my V4 one.

[dense wyvern]

Just try asking.

[hollow drum]

its so bad guys. i might be cooked.

[golden burrow]

tbh

as long as it fits and it works

it's fine

[cyan forge]

Ur belt is too long

[dense wyvern]

Put more seeds in the planter. There's a gap in your buckwheat lines.

[cyan forge]

It occupies more space than ur actually factory

[hollow drum]

spoiler: it doesnt

[hollow drum]

yeah this is old, I went with a 2s2p loop later on

[cyan forge]

Tbh it's hard making a factory when u dk what u wanna make

[digital oasis]

mmmm symmetry

[cyan forge]

So u did well imo

[fast wagon]

The design works well, 18/min. I cre medicine

[hollow drum]

I kinda gave up cuz my V4 outposts are all lvl4

[cyan forge]

18 in 1 subaic?

[hollow drum]

do you guys do the components in Core and the end product in Sub

or the other way around?

[cyan forge]

I do med on sub, the rest main

[hollow drum]

I currently have Core producing Steel and GBP

The Buck A and HC Batteries are from my subs

[golden burrow]

i do full production lines

not split

[cyan forge]

Buck A on sub*

It's prettier and easier to make sub when i wanna

Like if i wanna quit the game for a while, i just swap one of my buck to citrone

So all my yield cap at 12/min

[hollow drum]

i think full prod lines look better than splits but hmm

[dense wyvern]

I have full buck lines and just the final battery process in core AIC.

[marsh isle]

Im standing strong

[fast wagon]

What other factories should I build?

[cyan forge]

Mostky, yeh. Aesthetic

[golden burrow]

what does standing strong mean

[river robin]

Guys anything I can fix?

[hollow drum]

Citrome C, according to the ppl here

[golden burrow]

chat is this ragebait

[cyan forge]

And buck c tbh

[marsh isle]

1.8k/1.8k

[hollow drum]

just remove all the stashes bar the ones that actually send the end product

[cyan forge]

Do ppl make 24/min cit c?

[golden burrow]

but it's red

[cyan forge]

Like that's so prone to overflow

[marsh isle]

Its not actually 1.8k power tho its just like that for a few minutes

[marsh isle]

Ye but it never goes to 0

[dense wyvern]

Are you manually importing ferrium every few days to maximize production? If so there's way to save even more energy.

[fast wagon]

This is my design model in Wulling.

[marsh isle]

No im using metastorage

[dense wyvern]

Yeah, but Meta storage has like a 300 ferrium gap each hour. No big deal though.

[cyan forge]

At 1.8k power, u can just transfer v4 hc bat to wuling and power ur wuling battery w it lmao

[golden burrow]

splitters for corners, i can respect that

staggered depot buses is ehhh though

[static isle]

if Xiranite is supposed to be an Originium product then why is it made out of plants and water
checkmate

[hollow drum]

i could never imagine a design like this nvm make it

[fast wagon]

Ye, I make use of every available space.

[cyan forge]

It looks ugly

[hollow drum]

is there a "back to the factory i go" meme here

[marsh isle]

This is an option but im not having problem with power ig

[golden burrow]

but it's not? it's magic coal with feranmut power

feranmuts don't go well with originium

[hollow drum]

like back to the mines I go

[static isle]

In Talosian Calendar, Year 140, through the collaborative efforts of multiple specialists and a Feranmut Proxy, a new Originium-based material named Xiranite was successfully developed.

[golden burrow]

nani

[cyan forge]

It's so u produce more bucks in wuling

Esp since u r only running at 1.1k power

[jovial breach]

wtf xiranite lore

[golden burrow]

the originium is in the forges then idk

[cyan forge]

Just use 1 thermal battery filled with hc, that's plenty lmao

[dense wyvern]

There's a way for you to save like 200 power if you're interested.

[cyan forge]

He doesn't need to

[static isle]

the orignium is in the water
Endfield put originium in the water to make all women gay for Endmin

[cyan forge]

200+1.1k is enuf for 1.1k power usage on wuling

[sweet mantle]

Is this good?

[hollow drum]

when I open Endfield tmr to show my factories I am about to offend everyone here

[cyan forge]

[dense wyvern]

It means you can put a few extra zip lines.

[cyan forge]

Fair...

[dense wyvern]

Oh I was talking to Saki.

[golden burrow]

wait is the proxy mentioned = leek dragon woman with the chinese name

[jovial breach]

you are missing a grinder somewhere

[static isle]

it's theorized to be Shu
but Fangyi might be a Shu reincarnation

[jovial breach]

2 originium belts missing

[cyan forge]

Oh mb

[marsh isle]

Ohh
How

[golden burrow]

huh where did this theory come from? is she mentioned in the game?

[hollow drum]

fan theory bc they look alike

[jovial breach]

impossible, shu cant be that big

[hollow drum]

LMFAO

[marsh isle]

Im originally at 1.6k ish / 1.8k before i put jincao production there

[golden burrow]

💀

[cyan forge]

How many seconds would it even take for that 1.8k to cycle to 0% lol

[static isle]

the rice fields are flat but they are fertile

[marsh isle]

Usually mine just producing batteries and syringes

[marsh isle]

I assure u its not going to 0

[cyan forge]

It will but it seems like it'll take ages before it does

[static isle]

also Shu does have leeks in a lot of her arts and we all know what Fangyi's pants look like

[golden burrow]

what

i've just been calling her leek woman bc she's green

wow actual lore

[jovial breach]

doesnt the aic core have 100k power storage or something

[dense wyvern]

Feed your packaging unit Ferrium Parts with the depo and use meta storage for Ferrium Parts instead or just Ferrium. That way you can eliminate 1 set of refining unit (5 EN) and fitting unit (20 EN).

On the down time, if you put a stash on your bottles you can also save some extra bottles.I just put the other Ferrium Part line somewhere else.

[hollow drum]

this just strengthens my statement that its fan theory

i mean if she turns out to be the same person thats

honestlyiwouldratheritwasadifferentchar

[cyan forge]

Yeh

[golden burrow]

do feranmut proxies even get to reincarnate

can't be a reconvener bc feranmuts don't get oripathy

[hollow drum]

yeah

[cyan forge]

It's like if u r running at 1.801k when ur max is 1.8k, u use 1 per second so even if u have 100k power backup, u only have 100k sec b4 it shut down

Which is approx 27.7 hr

[golden burrow]

slow painless death type shit

[marsh isle]

I see. Wouldnt it be a problem if i dont stock ferrium tho? Bcs resource are limited and my factory produce 12/min battery

[cyan forge]

[dense wyvern]

Oh, you're not using Wuling Battery?

[marsh isle]

I use that one

[dense wyvern]

Wuling Battery doesn't use Ferrium anyways.

Just Carbon and Xiranite.

[golden burrow]

you gotta sacrifice a hc battery line

or a meds A line up to you

[cyan forge]

Eh?

[marsh isle]

Mine looks like this

[cyan forge]

Does it not?

I forgor the recipe

[dense wyvern]

Wuling Battery just uses Dense Originium and Xiranite. No Ferrium.

[marsh isle]

Mind u its a screnshoot b4 i put jincao factory there

[cyan forge]

Why's ur current yield at 6? U makin comp?

[cyan forge]

Oh right

So the med is what's eating my ferium huh

[marsh isle]

Not anymore

[cyan forge]

Nice

[jovial breach]

115/min ferrium 💀

[cyan forge]

I need 1 more ferium mine tbh

[marsh isle]

Real

[cyan forge]

Good lord, why no sell

[dense wyvern]

The imports covers 1500 units, so we're missing 300 units per hour.

[cyan forge]

[dense wyvern]

I'll sell before credits get full.

[marsh isle]

Wait imma login real quick and screenshoot that

[dense wyvern]

In case they drop region development upgrades, I can get full points.

[golden burrow]

i don't think you need to worry about that until like 1.1

[cyan forge]

Yep

[dense wyvern]

Probably.

But I could always move those meds to Valley to store too.

[cyan forge]

Tbh, just sell em smh

[jovial breach]

they gonna add something that requires steel bottles

[marble yarrow]

Jingyu outpost the protocol storage city 💀

[dense wyvern]

I got these ready too.

[cyan forge]

Aint there alr plenty that need steel bottle?

[cyan forge]

Wdf

[jovial breach]

in wuling no

[cyan forge]

That's actually a good idea

Tho cryston suck

[dense wyvern]

There's bound to be a recipe for them.

[golden burrow]

syringes? drinks?

or do they use ferro bottle

[jovial breach]

arent they ferrium bottles?

[golden burrow]

they use ferrium parts

[cyan forge]

Honestly i don't remember

[dense wyvern]

Right now only Ferrium yeah.

[golden burrow]

but i don't remember the bottle

ah okay

[cyan forge]

Ferium n amethyst bottles r one i typically use

[jovial breach]

how are you using amethyst in wuling

[cyan forge]

They make the best medicine in the game afterall

[cyan forge]

Not in wuling

[dense wyvern]

There's no amethyst in Wuling.

I manually transported those bottles.

After optimizing my factory I just had no life.

[cyan forge]

All 48k?

This guy spent like 10 min doin that just for storage?

My man

[marble yarrow]

(me transporting 48k hc in wuling)

[cyan forge]

I was considering that too but like

It's not enuf to cover my energy

Fk

[marble yarrow]

I burned 10k of HC already in wuling

[jovial breach]

cant wait for people to optimize cryston line when they drop new recipe

[cyan forge]

I should shut down my yazhen n jincao powder farm

[river edge]

Finally, compact, but still eye sore to look

[cyan forge]

Am sure i'd be below 2.4k if those gone

[uneven atlas]

nah i didnt skipped story but the game only told me to make amethyst component and amethyst thing

[distant ibex]

Is it correct that in valley there's this many ore nodes?
Ferrium x28
Originium x19
Amethyst x8

[cyan forge]

4.3k battery required to run wuling factory daily huh

[dense wyvern]

Consider taking out a ferrium part line and use meta storage to import them instead. The Fitting unit takes a lot of energy.

[golden burrow]

uhh 560 orig 240 amet 1080 ferro

per min

[distant ibex]

36* ferium

[marble yarrow]

Bro counted the nodes

[clever briar]

so does this place have a hub/ outpost or do i pull power from the power plateau

[cyan forge]

Am genuinely kinda lazy ngl

[marble yarrow]

Pull from science park

[dense wyvern]

Yeah, just keep it in mind. It saves like 200 power.

[cyan forge]

It's fine, if i go under 2.4k, 2 hc thermal battery would be just perfect for it anw without optimization

[dense wyvern]

Just from that one line.

[jovial breach]

i dont think connecting from power plateu is a good idea, look at the top left path lol

[cyan forge]

Like if i run it at exactly 2.4k

[clever briar]

OH yea lol so sci park it is

[cyan forge]

That place is the most miserable map in the game imo

I hate that map w passion and every quest there

[clever briar]

fr it hurts to look at rn but i need the ores

[dense wyvern]

Then you gotta do what you gotta do.

[jovial breach]

picking delivery jobs at lodespring

[cyan forge]

[golden burrow]

with a zipline it's not that bad

[distant ibex]

I need it to know how many outputs I can use and calculate how to make most profit out of it

[golden burrow]

bc everything is at the town

[dense wyvern]

After getting a nice Zip Line at Lodesprings I'm sad it doesn't give more credits.

[cyan forge]

I hate placing zipline but that map need so much ziplines it's driving me nuts

I still don't have zipline in that map

I refuse to acknowledge its existence

[dense wyvern]

[golden burrow]

one output is 30/min, i told you the max ore yields /min earlier, have fun with calculs

[jovial breach]

the only place i actually run out of ziplines

[cyan forge]

[marsh isle]

HOLYSHIT ITS SO BAD LMAO

[cyan forge]

If i could use xiranite tower on that map, i'd consider making zipline there

[marsh isle]

Im stashing the jincao for now

[dense wyvern]

Yeah.

[marsh isle]

Now it's back to this

[dense wyvern]

That's how it should be yeah.

4 Ferrium for a Wuling Production line.

[cyan forge]

Oh... Am i using a shitton of power on wuling cos am running the stupid sprinkler for my farm...

Yuck.

[dense wyvern]

I'm running it too.

[cyan forge]

What's ur power at

[jovial breach]

i also run sprinklers tho

[dense wyvern]

17.1/18k

[marsh isle]

Should i increase my yazhen syringe production?

[golden burrow]

how many power does sprinklers even use

[cyan forge]

Oh huh

That's crazy

[jovial breach]

im at 1.9k/1.95k power

[cyan forge]

So wtf did i do to eat so much power

Turrets?

Is it?

[jovial breach]

turrets

[marsh isle]

Daz crazy

[jovial breach]

yes

[cyan forge]

Fuck.

[dense wyvern]

I don't use any stash though.

[cyan forge]

Am stashing all they pylon l8r

Yeah, they're eating way too much

[dense wyvern]

Depo Loader ftw.

[mellow carbon]

Hello can someone help me with the ferrium powder does anyone have a blueprint for that?..

[faint wing]

Depot bus ftw

[golden burrow]

are you sure you're using 17.1k power

bc

[jovial breach]

remove the turrets after you done tower defense and for those in alluvium, dont connect them to power, put battery in each turret instead

[cyan forge]

Am slapping stash mainly cos it helps w cycling the battery

[golden burrow]

what are you even using

[dense wyvern]

Oops.

1.71

[marsh isle]

Right...

[cyan forge]

Am just lazy

[marble yarrow]

My wuling is 1605

[dense wyvern]

mb

[jovial breach]

it's not that bad, one stack of battery in a turret can last forever

[marsh isle]

.gethisass

[cinder sun]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif?ex=6907bea1&is=69066d21&hm=bd40aabb5a87693f5187ff200edd75fe42ea895c26dcbf88ce2671422e4e2ed6

[cyan forge]

Meh not worth my battery

[dense wyvern]

Gotta keep in mind. 1 Stash = 1 Zipline.

[cyan forge]

Just gonna remove my pylons

[golden burrow]

bro actually stash them, towers eat a shitton of power

[mellow carbon]

Can someone help? Im having trouble w this

[jovial breach]

sentry is 20 power each

[cyan forge]

I just kept forgetting to do it

[dense wyvern]

Ferrium -> Refiner -> Shredder

[cyan forge]

That's like hm

12x2 turrets

[golden burrow]

#1461542035617091681 ?

[cyan forge]

24 x 20 power, 480 power?

Yuck

[golden burrow]

and bro wonders why he's outta power

[cyan forge]

Then imma also take out my yazhen n jincao powder...

[marsh isle]

Even if it's someone's zipline does it eat my power too?

[dense wyvern]

Nope

[golden burrow]

no they don't

[marble yarrow]

Make turrets nearby tower connect to a single tower that you can cut off power. Then a nearby bank to increase power when needed

[marsh isle]

Oh

What yall mean by stashing then?

[cyan forge]

How many power is 2 planter, 2 seed planting, 2 depot?

[marsh isle]

U guys put too many towers?

[dense wyvern]

I turned off all my towers.

Battery must be saved.

[golden burrow]

that one guy forgot to remove his towers after finishing tower defense

[jovial breach]

honestly i tried that method but i ended up just putting battery in the turrets, way easier and less management

[marsh isle]

Ohh

I almost forgot abt tower defense

[cyan forge]

Ehh thoughts?

[gaunt python]

guys anyone have the best wulling factory u can build at this moment with the current resources ?

[golden burrow]

#1461542035617091681 search

[dense wyvern]

There's probably a bunch of blueprints yeah. There's a lot of space.

[marsh isle]

Idk prob 300?

[glossy nymph]

Lol I got gilberta one more time.

[gaunt python]

tyyy

[golden burrow]

actually what team can you use her on

[marsh isle]

I want to produce jincao drink

[cyan forge]

There's no way it's that much

[glossy nymph]

She can fly

[golden burrow]

like yvone likes her

[glossy nymph]

That's all that matters to me.

[golden burrow]

you can also use her in phys for memes

[marble yarrow]

Gilberto

[golden burrow]

ehh fair

[marsh isle]

Idk really

[cyan forge]

Meh imma deal w it tmr

[glossy nymph]

I started recording the moment I show the color.

[uneven atlas]

how many thermal do you guys build

[glossy nymph]

Me 6

[golden burrow]

where

[marsh isle]

Where

I only use one in wuling

[uneven atlas]

do you need more?

[marsh isle]

Prob 6 in valley iv ye

[glossy nymph]

Well depends on how much your factory needs.

[uneven atlas]

like i wanna build zip lines and turrets and stuff everywhere but idk if that's gonna cause a large power shortage or nah

[marsh isle]

That's enough for a 100% efficiency factory iirc

[uneven atlas]

how you define a 100% efficiency fac

[warped idol]

Aynone know the blueprint for sub-pac buck capsule A?
For asia

[marble yarrow]

I use 4600 in my 18/18/24 valley

Exactly 4 banks

[golden burrow]

minimum is 4 in valley and 1 in wuling assuming you wanna get all outposts to 0 moneys

you kinda have nothing left for zips/towers tho

[marsh isle]

Ah so 6 thermals will give 6k ish power then

[marble yarrow]

I essence in wuling coz laev lmao

Im wasting so much already fuck gacha

[brave geyser]

As I just learned, every Thermal that is currently "On" will consume all the batteries available to it and continuously produce max power, even if it exceeds what you can use. So more Thermals than you need -> not efficient.

Just casually dropped a hundred Thermals and ate my entire purple battery stock to learn that lesson

[marble yarrow]

[golden burrow]

> fuck gacha
> plays a gacha game
😭

[marsh isle]

Hundred thermals...?

Is it for aesthetic or what

[marble yarrow]

Fuck essence

[marsh isle]

I just got her essence today too

After like 5 days

[sand pivot]

let my Minecraft Create empire of endless power begin 😈

[marble yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/congrats-nice-happy-for-you-congrats-nice-happy-for-you-gif-1927193140186872022

[marsh isle]

Etching is the real pain here

Praying for ur luck my bro

[brave geyser]

The lesson I learned from Factorio is that "There is no such thing as too large-scale".

Clearly, Endfield has large-scale issues

[marsh isle]

Trust me its just behind the door

[marsh isle]

Just because both of them are factory games doesnt mean the principal are the same

[brave geyser]

In other news: Star Rail has copied exactly zero other games for its minigame mechanics.

[last gull]

amy early sandleaf materials factory

[marsh isle]

Early sandleaf material?

[sand pivot]

this is why I use splitters, since the items on the belts always travel at the same time you split one belt by like 3 thermals

• in this game you can automate everything so I don't see a downside to always being above the power you need tbh

[marsh isle]

Never touch that game again since penacony

I've had enough

[brave geyser]

Since this game's goal is entirely about efficiency, wasting anything -> literally less stock bills

[flat relic]

I think the power plateau is the first time you encounter wild sandleaf

[sand pivot]

well perhaps but tbh I am using processed originium and the amethyst components to trade and I always max out on stock bills

[brave geyser]

Yeah that's an early game thing 👍

[sand pivot]

yeah, that's what I was thinking

[marsh isle]

Ik i just dont get their question

[sand pivot]

I will worry about it once I am out of the early game tbh

[marsh isle]

[sand pivot]

but isn't everyone kinda early game considering the game just came out tho?

[mellow iris]

finally unlocked my final subpac

[golden burrow]

my guy

some chinese nolifers managed to finish the story by saturday the week the game came out

[mellow iris]

what should i build in my final sub pac

[marsh isle]

Wuling early game ig

[sand pivot]

I mean but my question is does finishing the story put you in end game?

[mellow iris]

its cause they alraedy speedran the moment they were born

[sand pivot]

I am genuinely asking btw, idk what is considered early game and end game in this game ngl

still figuring it out

[mellow iris]

the girls all getting sub 1 year speedruns

[golden burrow]

it kinda does i feel like, bc every piece of content is gated by the story

i guess endgame is essence farming + artificing?

[nova lodge]

end game = having chars that have fully etched essense + fully trimmed correct gold gears.

[sand pivot]

that's the reason behind my question cause like since you're always capped there's not really an end game other than maxxing your chars I guess?

[golden burrow]

more or less

[nova lodge]

welp tomorrow, umbral monument gonna drop....they are gonna come in handy....those maxed out chars.

[jovial breach]

early game and mid game are kinda vague, but i can tell you endgame is when you're making fully max production both in valley and wuling, the point where you start looking at skill mastery, gear artificing and essence etching

[marsh isle]

Yes

[sand pivot]

so what is best early game? not worry about energy and just trade my batteries for bills?

since they give the most?

[marsh isle]

And wuling fac is still not at 100% efficiency since wuling story is not done yet

Yep

[golden burrow]

you should save a bit for your own use though

as in you need batteries to power your production

[sand pivot]

I am using 320 out of 860 only

[marsh isle]

Its not worth farming anything unless ur at region 6-7

[sand pivot]

ig I will disable some of the batteries then?

[jovial breach]

general rule is to try making the highest battery version you can make in my opinion

[golden burrow]

basically what you want to do with the factory stuff is make the most expensive thing that outposts will buy

[sand pivot]

I am making both amethyst and ferrium

but the ferrium production seems slower

so I kept the amethyst one

idek why it is slower tbf, the materials have the same processing times

maybe it's because I am mining more amethyst than ferrium but yeah

[golden burrow]

ratios maybe

[sand pivot]

I checked the ratios on the machine but they seem fine, kinda

[golden burrow]

uhh do you have the game open rn?

[sand pivot]

yeah

[golden burrow]

take a screenshot

just the final part is fine

[marsh isle]

When u unlock all ur mining spots and get to reg development lvl 11 u can start making bigger factory

[golden burrow]

the packaging unit

[sand pivot]

I think I just figured out the issue

I kinda traded in all my processed originium recently so the machines are waiting for originium to run and make the batteries

[golden burrow]

welp as long as it's figured out

wait uhh

you should try to not sell base materials though

[marsh isle]

Ye

[golden burrow]

bc final processed stuff sell for a lot more

[marsh isle]

Try to make buck capsule c first

[golden burrow]

as in medicines/batteries

[marsh isle]

Dont rush it tho, just do it at ur pace

[uneven atlas]

is there a way to centralize your aic

like after expanding the area it doesn't have an option to centralize

[golden burrow]

nope

well you can move it yourself

[mellow iris]

with what i have left what should i built+

[uneven atlas]

does zipline and the other facilities in the wild use electricity?

[jovial breach]

yes

[golden burrow]

your stuff does

other ppl stuff don't

[marsh isle]

Buck capsule b ig, or just more battery production

[uneven atlas]

that's so bs tho, so if i want the most efficient base possible then i can't use utility facility?

[marsh isle]

But that use of ferrium is kinda concerning

[cedar phoenix]

yep, 5 per zipline (big or small, the same), and 5 per miner mk1 and 10 per miner mk2

[golden burrow]

not really? you just have to use additional thermal banks

[mellow iris]

okay

[uneven atlas]

yeah but someone said more than 6 thermal bank mean it's not efficient

[uneven atlas]

^^

[golden burrow]

i think you're misunderstanding what he said here