aic-factory

[dull night]

The whole idea behind the factory is to sell

So from your report, you’re good mate

What did you mean by this??

[crimson inlet]

oki, I'll add a buck cap c for production

[dull night]

No need

[crimson inlet]

i mean, 3 dedicated setups for HC bats

[marble yarrow]

i just set mine for them to consume batteries 10 seconds apart each other so the chart looks flat. either way, if you and i similarly use only 4 banks, we are consuming at the same rate

[dull night]

Oh sorry I thought you meant per minute

[runic epoch]

Probably some rounding issues

[crimson inlet]

I currently have an 18/18 setup and planing to do some more for amethyst and the remaining unused nats

[crimson inlet]

probably

[spice temple]

help me what do i add here 🥲

[dull night]

You’re good tbh

[crimson inlet]

ze beauty in the core

[dull night]

You’ll easily max out daily sales with spares

[runic epoch]

Ah yes
Corner™

[crimson inlet]

I plan to make excess basic mats for building and deliveries in that corner

[dull night]

Everything

Build a lot of purple batteries and capsules

Enough to pay for your dailies

[marble yarrow]

ah yes, its the planters again destroying my 100% efficiency when offline

[runic epoch]

My motherboard arrives today
Time to free myself of the shackles of lowest resolution 30fps

[crimson inlet]

GIMME a PC man

I'm playing at medium graphics in my phone

[runic epoch]

I'm playing on low

[crimson inlet]

that's probably mid in my settings

[paper magnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1132941181488222299/1469621604437987348/image.png?ex=69885346&is=698701c6&hm=41104f57f384dda418c52df052f91afd044307512d4f903036d8cb937ac5b61b&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1380&height=578 here's a 21:9 screenshot if discord doesn't yoink my pixels

[crimson inlet]

After I've added the extra stuff, imma grind energy allevium in wuling for Laev's sword

[runic epoch]

Panda and sheep lady on one bench

[paper magnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/688423854506639436/1465020319356944384/ENDFIELD_SHARE_1769358430.png?ex=698d56be&is=698c053e&hm=f461f1bfd99ea17288e3bedd0f3e127570d367f7c5ae7a94d23d22748e74224b&

[paper magnet]

As it should he

Be

[runic epoch]

Panda is so big I thought he was floating at first

[marble yarrow]

bruh, i remember putting out 50 items in the left square (the raw material) and somehow after going offline for 14 hours they decided to become stuck in the product. i mean, all my planters behaved this way lmaoo

[eternal atlas]

wait so what do people usually try to build with factories?

[storm garnet]

tickets

[dull night]

Can someone explain this to me

Do I need to run a farm

Because I’m not

[inland knoll]

im making a ton of ground cryston powder rn so i can make number go up

not useful or anything though

[eternal atlas]

yeah i just let mine like what the story required so i actually wanna do something with mine

[storm garnet]

that's just factory machines, dont worry

[dull night]

Is farm just an RP thing because can I lot just run an infinite loop for a plant I need and then stop?

[marble yarrow]

sometimes your perfectly working plant duplicator (with correct ratio from start to end) somehow finds itself in the clogged state with unexplained reason

[dull night]

Not me

[storm garnet]

plants are basically free, they sustain themselves once you put the machines properly

[marble yarrow]

i mean, it doesnt happen everyday to me

[dull night]

I have never once needed more plants than I make

[runic epoch]

My farms are external so I just let them clog

[marble yarrow]

i have my plants setup directly to its served factory. i dont store them

[dull night]

I just auto farmed all plants I need for currency then stopped and switched to bills farming

[nova lodge]

somehow, sandleaf became the meme O.O

[marble yarrow]

and somehow all my plants fked themselves altogether while im offline

[runic epoch]

It coarse and clogs everywhere

[dull night]

Farm to me seems pointless?

[inland knoll]

not every plant can be grown in the planting unit

[storm garnet]

by farm he must mean planting with factory machines

[inland knoll]

stuff like tartpepper is what eco-farm is for

[marble yarrow]

i dont mean "separate farm that outputs to depot directly"

i dont do that

[nova lodge]

eco farm = farm, yeah, gets confusing within the playerbase at times.

[marble yarrow]

i direct it to factories

[dull night]

Yeah I mean the soil farm

[runic epoch]

Usually the eco at the front is the distinguisher

[dull night]

Does it matter?

Not the terminology, the farm

[storm garnet]

what he showed was factory farm, not soil

[fast cliff]

I mean its my source of healing consumables

[nova lodge]

eco farm is good, if there is a harder content that needs the stuff it provides.
it provides % boost buffs / % hp recoveries.

still makes certain content easier though.

[runic epoch]

The space is unused so why not just delegate the plant loops into there

Honestly depends on how you build the factory

[dull night]

Mostly beside I don’t know how and also because I can dodge

[runic epoch]

Oh you meant eco farm
Uh food for trims

[storm garnet]

the levels of misunderstandings here are over 9000

[dull night]

Yeah I wanna know how sprinklers work etc

[marble yarrow]

idk why the topic even went to the eco farm

[nova lodge]

trimming gears need food O.O?

[dull night]

My misunderstanding

[runic epoch]

[nova lodge]

[storm garnet]

decide already if you guys are going to talk about factory or eco farm

[frozen nacelle]

they banned tacticals for hard mode trims soo really it's just to speed up essence / normal clear

[tired shore]

1 belt of plants (30/min) costs ~2.6 MJ of power/day. which is about 40 Wuling batteries a day

[merry burrow]

Man factory optimization is a pain in phone. Feels 10x better in laptop

[silk wyvern]

Rate my fac

[dull night]

Btw I wanna thank @runic epoch and @storm garnet for the help today explaining things. I figured out wit your help and got it under control

[storm garnet]

np

[marble yarrow]

aight imma just experiment and run a separate farm to prove plant duplicators even lose sanity

[runic epoch]

This channel is very helpful to any inquiries 👍

[dull night]

Yes very appreciative. I’m especially thankful for the willingness to explain rather than tell so I can actively learn rather than just listen

[nova lodge]

plant duplicator theory had been proven since forever though O.O?
even the devs say: do it!

-> quite literally in the tutorial.

[storm garnet]

i basically always make sure all parts of a plant loop are clogged before i let them go anywhere else

[marble yarrow]

it doesnt happen daily. sometimes my 1-d chart has no irregularities

but today it has happened. both wuling and my valley4

[dull night]

Plant duplicator = free oroberyls

[nova lodge]

you wish ;v

wait, i wish for it too.

[dull night]

I’m not lying lol

You get oroberyls for harvesting x amount

[runic epoch]

Imagine there was a crafting recipe for oroberyls that required 60000 originium
Additional endgame bonus

[nova lodge]

i know, its not consistent gain though.

[hearty cipher]

they wouldn't do that on their premium currency

[dull night]

Any free is good

[hearty cipher]

maybe with a daily/weekly/monthly limit

[nova lodge]

lets have one that give small consistent amount whenever you reach X amount of harvest ;3.

[runic epoch]

Weekly crafting limit of 200 oroberyls from 60k originium

[dull night]

May as well just auto send to my mail at that point

[hearty cipher]

speaking of which i wonder if they gonna make events related to factory

like maybe produce a certain upm for a period of time

[dull night]

In a sense. We will get expansions with more factory areas and more tools for wuling

[storm garnet]

might get something like ficsmas

[merry burrow]

Huh

[dull night]

Crafting manual. X amount of plants = oroboryl

[merry burrow]

Oh

[runic epoch]

It's under the recipe unlocking chart for the plants

(probably I forgot where it was)

[merry burrow]

I'm pretty sure I completed that before even duplicators

[dull night]

It’s pretty generous for early game tbh

[hearty cipher]

that too but i mean like a time limited event

[dull night]

I doubt we see a craft x for y event

Because it would either just be most people’s structure or require a breakdown and rebuild

And if its related to current structure it’ll be like the Wuling event we just got

Log in “oh I’ve done it all already”

Claim my loot and done

[merry burrow]

How complicated is wuling?

[dull night]

Not very complicated, but a lot more fun

[storm garnet]

not much, it's barely anything available

[hearty cipher]

rather than complicated it's more like lacking

as wuling is incomplete

[merry burrow]

Oh

[dull night]

Wuling has more lively world events

[merry burrow]

I'm still postponing on wuling

[dull night]

Follow butterflies for chests, make frogs burp light balls in an order etc

[storm garnet]

wuling is all about getting wuling tickets tbh

[dull night]

It looks pretty af tho

I see wuling as the point where the game starts opening up and making sense as you get stronger

[merry burrow]

They should make a production line up for limited HH permit. Watch everyone yeet their current factory lineups and start new research

[dull night]

Not that Wuling is awesome, but when you reach it, you’re simultaneously hitting other milestones

[storm garnet]

for me, wuling felt like a 2.0 tbh, but then the story stops abruptly before anything really happens

[merry burrow]

How long till new content comes out?

[dull night]

Yeah that’s what I’m saying. Introduces you to endgame building

[dull night]

This week I think.

[storm garnet]

3 or 4 weeks

[dull night]

I think we get the umbral stuff this week

[storm garnet]

well, i mean 1.1

but yea

[merry burrow]

Oh

[dull night]

First taste of endgame this week

[merry burrow]

This feels too fast tho

[runic epoch]

Here's to hoping the Arknights starts arknighting in the story

[merry burrow]

Like how many years of content do they have in store

[dull night]

It’s single player optional there’s no rush

[merry burrow]

Considering people are hitting lvl 90 and max stuffs in just a week of launch

[storm garnet]

it seems it's a permanent thing, not resetting

[lone bluff]

About a week ago I assembled a SC Valley Battery facility. It is feeding the parts to several Thermal Banks and also to the Depot. Up to now there is still no accumulation of the batteries in the Depot.
So I built another SC Valley Battery rig, but no Thermal Banks on this one, it is only feeding the Depot. But still no accumulation. I see it has 1, then 2, sometimes up to 4, but then drops back to none and cycles through the count up to 3 or 4 then none again.
Where are those batteries going?

[dull night]

It’s permanent but will be updated often

[storm garnet]

also, it's divided in 3 phases, and we only get the first one

[runic epoch]

It was the same with wuthering as well
You could reach max level during launch time frame as well

[storm garnet]

i'm talking from what i saw from videos from the beta

[dull night]

Level 90 is surface level. Then you have artificing and etching

[merry burrow]

Some people have maxed out artificing and etching too?

[dull night]

Long time away before people have maxed out everything for main squad never mind multiple

[dull night]

For one character yeah. Most. Let supports sit lower

[merry burrow]

Oh

[runic epoch]

As of right now artificing is not needed

[dull night]

^

[merry burrow]

Ok

[dull night]

Take your time bro jus enjoy the ride

[merry burrow]

Yeah

[dull night]

It is single player at the end of the day

[merry burrow]

Imma go make a better version of my battery production line

[analog elbow]

9 hours before my 12h shift ends

[storm garnet]

you mean playing endfield?

[analog elbow]

Nuh

i want to

but

work

[storm garnet]

endfield is work

[analog elbow]

Work work

Gotta make sure so i can play Whenfield

[stoic coyote]

Did you output batteries to powerbank somewhere else?

[merry burrow]

Why does it limit selling to 5k when I have 6k+ in storage

[nova lodge]

sales limit reached, bank empty for the outpost end.

[runic epoch]

You bankrupted them

[stoic coyote]

are you not seeing the stock bills accumulated

[runic epoch]

Why are we not upgrading power plateau

[merry burrow]

Mb lol

[stoic coyote]

bankrupt villager

[nova lodge]

our oroberyl account after rolling to 120 pity

[marble yarrow]

if i were you, i would have my outpost assigned with operators that has Outpost prosperity bonus (change them the time you wanna trade). so you can rush to go to the max outpost level of 4

also adjust the slider the exact point it says that Outpost Prosperity limit

[stoic coyote]

level 4 has savings limit of 3M

[ashen tapir]

It’s ok am broke too can’t claim anymore stocks. Ahha

[unreal marsh]

Is there a list that shows the best operators or the second best for each station?

[small totem]

For battery factory, which method is better?? Putting thermal Bank next to the output of the factory, or making the battery supplied from a depot from a separate area

[nova lodge]

wulfgard > everyone else for wulling.

[marble yarrow]

personally i put the banks directly to aic unloader/depot unloader. so it has uninterrupted supply

since if u put it next to the factory, the sandleaf will know, and they will clog the factory for no reason

[small totem]

I don't have the sandleaf problem that you might be referring to, as i just have two shredders with 2-3 configuration, so no overproducing it

i was wondering if the usage is higher or lower depending where you put it

[marble yarrow]

its the same, dont worry. tho they look like spiky in the chart

[small totem]

yeah

i believe this is the best i can do

[marble yarrow]

looks great

[small totem]

i mean, these 3 are already maxed

[runic epoch]

I find having an external thermal bank line to be much more consistent
Though they function the same in theory

[small totem]

noted

[runic epoch]

Offline calculation gotta be my number 1 op

[small totem]

like actually calculating by yourself?

[marble yarrow]

true. they may not affect all players, but offline shenanigans exist

[small totem]

oh wait, you meant when you're not online i believe

[runic epoch]

No I meant the games calculation of your factories offine

Sometimes it fucks with machines

[merry burrow]

How do I assign another structure to that empty quick access slot?

[small totem]

Bruh...

[small totem]

you can make a amethyst bottle factory there

it's quite small and you might use it for buck capsule C

[merry burrow]

No no I meant the quick access slot in the bottom side. I removed the refinery but can't assign a new one

[small totem]

oh mb

[marble yarrow]

open ur inventory

then drag

[merry burrow]

I'll use those 3 depot slots for the HC Battery plant there

[marble yarrow]

or the facility list then drag

[merry burrow]

Ok thanks

[small totem]

Yeah it's basically your inv hotbar

[merry burrow]

Thanks guys

[small totem]

btw, is there a way to do it?

sorry if it's obvious thingy

[runic epoch]

Wait what did you want to do again

[small totem]

the battery usage

i was asking about the configuration for best usage

[runic epoch]

Nah the zigzag is fine
As long as you don't log back into zero battery capacity you're fine

And minmaxing with pwm in v4 is unnecessary

[small totem]

the problem is that the usage is jumping from 6/min to 9/min

kinda making me confused

and worried

[runic epoch]

Just down time from when the thermal banks are not powered

Perhaps switch to an external chain and see if results differ?

[small totem]

well, for every thermal bank i've (except 1 as i was lazy and just put it in front of packaging unit) they get filled up right when it's empty

then it seems it's also counting that few milli second downtime

another thing making me concerned is the fact that current data is above that theoretical data for the usage

though, then again, it's very big zigzag

[runic epoch]

What's your total power usage?

[runic epoch]

Usage graph looks fine for the most part
I guess if you ever encounter waking up to zero switch to external

Since you don't output from the depot you'll have spares to kickstart it back up

[merry burrow]

I think I'm done with the core. What to do with that empty space? Make a heart shape?

[vapid granite]

everytime i look at shit like this its so cool but same time makes me feel like im doing my factory wrong and wannt redesign it

[merry burrow]

Is that wuling?

[vapid granite]

the ground looks grey so i assume its the Power plant AIC outpost

[merry burrow]

Maybe

I haven't worked on power plateau yet

[mint idol]

Power plant

[merry burrow]

Huh

Isn't power plateau and power plant same?

[mint idol]

Yes

Also this whole print looks incredibly messy and inefficient

[merry burrow]

This?

[crisp idol]

oh hey im working on that right now (neglect broke my initial wuling factory) any suggestions for core placement?

[storm garnet]

that's not theoretical max btw

[cinder schooner]

I didnt use any depot buses i just used 3 outputs of originium

Though I'd usually keep aic at the mid end of the boundary

[crisp idol]

like this, then?

[marble yarrow]

double your originium shredder, and would make it 100% efficient (use other 3 outputs)

[cinder schooner]

Its already at 6/min

[marble yarrow]

i dont think so

[cinder schooner]

Lemme show

[storm garnet]

so, i fixed this by removing the triple belts and leaving only 1, which left me more than enough capacity to fill the whole area with storage. 181 in total, 54.3k, more than depot.

[marble yarrow]

your sandleaf producer is even slow

[cinder schooner]

Oh nvm it's back to 4 now lol

[cinder schooner]

I think my sandleaf prod is good

[marble yarrow]

nope

[cinder schooner]

It's the originium powdrr

[storm garnet]

it might look like there are some double belts, but those are just different storage side by side

[cinder schooner]

It staggered tho

[storm garnet]

now to wait again for it to fill

[spring elm]

That's pretty impressive.

[storm garnet]

113% extra storage is nuts man

[marble yarrow]

it might look good for you, but right now its just because your originium powder is also slow and it matched the slow sandleaf powder

[storm garnet]

plus a bit extra on the belts themselves

[cinder schooner]

Since we just require 1/2 powder in 1 second I think one shredder is already doing enough work

[storm garnet]

i could make some belts longer just for the lols

[cinder schooner]

One shredder gives rise to 3/2 powder per second and grinding unit takes 2 seconds to make the dense originium powder

Am i wrong?

[marble yarrow]

you should know that your sandleaf planter is alternately giving to your shredder and seeder

for now, double your originium shredders, and see if the sandleaf keeps up

so you can see it for yourself

[spring elm]

You want that neither hits cap or it'll clog and thus slow production down.

[elder flame]

Is 14k Xiranite components enough

[storm garnet]

yep

go full batteries

[cinder schooner]

Well ofcourse I need to increase my sandleaf production by +1 when i increase originium output by +3

[elder flame]

Okay I’m running out of battery stockpile for wuling buck exchange

[cinder schooner]

Right now I'm only using 3 originium output cause I'm broke in wuling

[spice temple]

holy

i havent even unlocked the blue stone

[lavish crown]

I just spent the last 8 hours on my factory

And before you say anything my sanity is overcapped idagf

When inspiration hits it hits, today marks the last day I have to manually to back and forth to V4 for dense carbon and other xiranite component mats.

[runic epoch]

now I'm concerned

[lavish crown]

About me?

[golden stump]

how to drag a lot of items from depot to backpack ?

[lavish crown]

Control click

[runic epoch]

Yes
What has your factory process been like to manually transfer dense carbon 😭

[lavish crown]

What do you mean? I was capped of this material in V4. And figure it be dump to wait an hour for 1k transfer

[runic epoch]

No I meant what kinda process would you need to do that for

The carbon in wuling is self sustainable

[lavish crown]

Ohh the green thing

And funny you brought up sustainability that what I spent hours on

[nova lodge]

carbon....? but why?
(i make them and store it in depot for the memes :3)

[lavish crown]

I created this perfect blueprint to make dense carbon cubes with two systems of sandleafs running parallel to one another .. I named it Carbon Fiber

[cyan forge]

is there any way to increase stat like str outside of gear stat, chara lvl, and weapon stat?

[runic epoch]

Pray tell have you heard of wuling plants

[lavish crown]

Dense carbon is key for xiranite do you play the game

[runic epoch]

... Yes I'm quite literally at the endgame

[nova lodge]

nope, unless you meant artificing and food buffs

[cyan forge]

oh, hi again false

kekw

[runic epoch]

Lmao

[cyan forge]

yikes.... ayt what food can boost that stat

[lavish crown]

I k lol someone I was arguing with earlier used that as a counter point and it was funny to me

[cyan forge]

am trying to hit xaihi's int cap

[runic epoch]

I mean the way you go about producing xiranite is certainly interesting

[nova lodge]

hadn't really looked into it much.
not sure if it even boost specific stats other than straight up atk+, def+ and crit+.

[lavish crown]

I don’t do anything it’s in the formula I just supply the mats I’m confused

[cyan forge]

would u sum up for me what he's suggesting for xiranite production?

[runic epoch]

He's transferring dense carbon from V4 to wuling...

[cyan forge]

iirc it only boost either atk, def, crit, or all stat

[cyan forge]

.... why?

[lavish crown]

That’s False

I was doing that.

[cyan forge]

oh

then u aren't rn rite?

[runic epoch]

Oh well you were doing that

[nova lodge]

tbh....you shouldn't even be doing that right from the start....

[runic epoch]

So I was wondering why you were

[cyan forge]

[lavish crown]

Yes all mats for xiranite components are home grown and grass fed in wiling now

[cyan forge]

good kekw

hm btw is it worth getting the cow poop everyday?

[lavish crown]

Because I was transfer the cubes from V4 to make them and it will stall production

[nova lodge]

should be roughly around those, not even sure of the all stats parts.

[runic epoch]

If you don't need food
It's pretty much pointless

[cyan forge]

there is one that boost like each stat by 5 or sth, but like that's so negligible

[nova lodge]

battery, battery is always the answer.
transfer battery, kick start production, done.

[cyan forge]

eh... fair. i do want me more ginseng tho

[grizzled osprey]

Eh, I just get the eco farm stuff when I feel like it

[cyan forge]

it takes 5 min to harvest n replant in wuling man

[nova lodge]

imagine devs suddenly start incorporating gold tier rarity farm produce.....

[lavish crown]

Ohh Guardian Tales pfp how rare

[grizzled osprey]

How much ginseng would you need anyway

[cyan forge]

like, it gives rly good result for so little work

[grizzled osprey]

Fellow wordle enjoyer?

[cyan forge]

alot

[grizzled osprey]

[cyan forge]

i plan to craft like 200 for stock

so i don't have to do it any longer

[grizzled osprey]

Or just cuz the word is grass?

[lavish crown]

Dude it was the best gacha game I’ve played to this day… the most f2p too rip my device couldn’t handle it

[cyan forge]

just make a zipline from spawn straight to the farm, takes only 4 ziplines

[lavish crown]

I haven’t seen a single game with the mileage system that GT has and it’s been like 7 years

[grizzled osprey]

Ongg guardian tales is peak, they don't make stuff like that they suck at advertising tho, I've never seen a GT ad

[cyan forge]

[grizzled osprey]

How do they expect new players

[lavish crown]

They want the game to die so they go play eversoul instead

[grizzled osprey]

My device so potato each tp makes me drop fps

[marble yarrow]

look at them, behaving great when the boss is monitoring their work

[cyan forge]

u know u can afk the harvest and planting rite btw?

[nova lodge]

a reason i don't have my sandleaf farms running at borderline efficiency....

[grizzled osprey]

publisher same but different Devs, devs wouldn't do that would they? Tbf all game designers should stay away from kakaogames

[grizzled osprey]

Wut

[lavish crown]

I’m never learning how to sprinkle and making fluffed jincao idgaf

[marble yarrow]

i rigged every planter/seeder to have a half-stack on their left storage boxes. cant wait for them to eventually fuck themselves up

[rough oxide]

on an average, how many dupes of a gear do i need to fully artifice? coz i've stopped my wuling battery production to produce gear component

[runic epoch]

Depends on your luck

[lavish crown]

How are you dealing with cloggage?

[cyan forge]

harvest once and let ur other operator harvest for u

[runic epoch]

But I think it was 12 dupes for a guaranteed artifice

[cyan forge]

then plant once and let ur other operator do the rest

[grizzled osprey]

Don't they only do one plot for every plot you do yourself?

[cyan forge]

it's semi auto

[grizzled osprey]

Maybe I just placed sprinklers badly so they can't walk around

[cyan forge]

no, they do it til everything is filled

[cyan forge]

use camera trick

camera to remove all aic unit

[grizzled osprey]

Oh right I forgor

[cyan forge]

so they don't get stuck

[grizzled osprey]

[cyan forge]

it takes 6 min to harvest n replant

more or less

u should make ur planting 4x5 tho

[marble yarrow]

ensure the correct ratio you are using for your production line. best to remove the right boxes in that window (their product). sometimes, if the shredder only serves to 2 grinders, i purposely divide the shredder input side to only accept 2/3 of the sandleaf plant belt

[grizzled osprey]

Did

[regal narwhal]

my honest reaction when

[cyan forge]

that way it's more compact so none of the planter is too far as long as u stay in the middle

[regal narwhal]

left it for 2 days btw

[cyan forge]

bruh

[marble yarrow]

me when a random powder ends up in an unrelated facility

[grizzled osprey]

It's on you ngl, never leave a build without checking if it's working

[willow tundra]

it do be like that sometime

[edgy osprey]

Can duping plants count towards material milestones

[cyan forge]

meanwhile me playing w wuling battery:

[magic hull]

Found the issue with my wuling base

[cyan forge]

my factory has shut down 5 times today

[magic hull]

it's just server desync

[runic epoch]

Was it just 1% drops

[magic hull]

Nothing i can do to prevent the -1 dip that happens every so often

[lavish crown]

All my sand leaf being used to make dense carbon goes straight to protocol but the 1 to 3 ratio is causing the shredder to be backed out, I wonder if I should put a protocol in between to handle excess thoughts?

[gaunt escarp]

All to make one part

[cyan forge]

ew

[grizzled osprey]

I'm lazy I just make it fall below 50% and call it a day

[magic hull]

yea, i make 1 less everything every 3~4 hours or something

[runic epoch]

Yea that's normal

[nova lodge]

now do it again....for HC Batteries!

[runic epoch]

I'm also a victim of server desync

[cyan forge]

isn't that gonna shut down ur power?

[gaunt escarp]

Oh you do not wanna see my battery production

[magic hull]

I thought I mathed wrong yesterday

[grizzled osprey]

Buffer unit clutches

[marble yarrow]

my carbon line has this, since the sandleaf serves 2 grinders, you can see that a 1/3 belt of sandleaf is sent to the protocol stash, along with the end product "Stabilized Carbon"

[grizzled osprey]

Although I gotta check how it does without the emergency supply

Imma go check ig

[lavish crown]

That looks Chinese to me idk what Im looking 😭😭

[regal narwhal]

so how long till people figure out how to hijack people's account through blueprint sharing

[lavish crown]

I like geometry and symmetry so I can’t make heads or tails of these min max conveyer belt setups

[runic epoch]

This will be the downfall of new players

[astral forge]

chat why is my ferrium not 90/m

[nova lodge]

i meant....its wulling so, take all the space you need ;3

[cyan forge]

OH FK IT SHUT DOWN AGAIN

WRYYYY

[nova lodge]

[magic hull]

somewhere isn't powered properly

[willow tundra]

give some buffer

[nova lodge]

always buffer sandleaf '3

[astral forge]

if something isn't powered it wouldnt be a weird 74/m, i'm also above power reqs

[elder flame]

I don’t understand why blueprints are region specific and not just like some kind of encoding of parts

[gaunt escarp]

I’m always fearing that my wulling will shut down some day, I genuinely cannot produce enough batteries to power the production of batteries

[nova lodge]

wut?

[magic hull]

I suggest checking first tbh. My friend thought the same and he has one mine that the power just got cut off after he moved some power relays

[elder flame]

How

[marble yarrow]

SHHHH, they are listening

[gaunt escarp]

Endless cycle of PRODUCING BATTERIES to PRODUCE POWER to PRODUCE BATTERIES

[runic epoch]

Just have 2 battery producers

[elder flame]

You produce more batteries than you use to power the batteries

And one fully operational battery producer is enough

[gaunt escarp]

No I probably just placed down to many thermal banks

[elder flame]

For like

[elder flame]

How much power do you have…?

[gaunt escarp]

Just to lazy to fix it

[runic epoch]

You only need 2 banks for WL

[gaunt escarp]

..alot

[nova lodge]

1.8k power....is not much for thermal banks.

[regal narwhal]

i just realized i have free will

[gaunt escarp]

Oh no like most of them are offline

[lavish crown]

I see that your using your final sand leaf output to send 1 plant to stash another to shred and make the powder for the two grinding units, I’m following you. But why use the wiling plants for carbon when you have excess sandleaf?

[gaunt escarp]

You will seem them online

[nova lodge]

they should clog and not eat up battery that way.
if the thermal banks are off.

[lavish crown]

Your not a TPE

[regal narwhal]

a what?

[lavish crown]

Throughput Efficiency

[gaunt escarp]

Man is PG&E

[nova lodge]

well, he is producing SC battery atm....gonna need to strip the base down later for HC battery.

[regal narwhal]

erm true but i need band-aid solution so when i finish all the quest i can focus on the factory

[lavish crown]

You can find it easily while you have the band aid on, it’s 2 parts and 3 dust

[marble yarrow]

because 1 wuling plant can serve 2 grinders, since they refine into 2 carbon and shreds to 4 carbon powder, enough for a single line of 30/m xiranite production

[regal narwhal]

My stock bill is only 32k lmao its screaming despair

i need to max my factory upgrades n shi before i start planning big

[lavish crown]

Wait so the multipliers are for the wuling are better wtf

Dude I was so proud of my carbon fiber blueprint

[marble yarrow]

yes

[lavish crown]

But what about the 1 to 3 sand Leaf shred does that equalize the ration

[marble yarrow]

no

[fossil spoke]

the space complexity is smallerr for wuling plant iirc

[nova lodge]

wulling plants does need water though, can be a hassle to setup the 1st time.

[regal narwhal]

fockening shite

[marble yarrow]

1 sandleaf > 3 sand powder > 2 carbon powder

1 wuling > 2 carbon > 4 carbon powder

[lavish crown]

Yea I hate that

The water nozzle is annoying

Where the other is free

[runic epoch]

Makes your life much easier tho

[fossil spoke]

well, no one prevent u to use wuling plant

[nova lodge]

just let us expand the view so that we can set the pump and such with an easier time....

[lavish crown]

Yikes

[fossil spoke]

u can just use sandleaf

[runic epoch]

It's better to learn piping since in the future more forges will probably be added

[fossil spoke]

yeah

[lavish crown]

Imma stick to sandleaf I hate the water system it took everything I have for forget of nature

[fossil spoke]

but again we cant force them to learn pipes

[nova lodge]

gimme more protocol capacity 1st

[fossil spoke]

even though endfield pipe system is soooo much easier than satisfactory

[lavish crown]

I’m not a plumber this isn’t Mario World

[fossil spoke]

[runic epoch]

Imagine no zipline limit

[fossil spoke]

remember this ?

[crimson inlet]

Dang, I've done everything currently in my factory (lie, I haven't made amethyst bottles yet for selling)

it's a waiting game

[fossil spoke]

https://www.reddit.com/r/SatisfactoryGame/comments/obqjrd/ficsit_pipeline_plumbing_manual_first_edition/

💀

[nova lodge]

pumps take 2 protocol cap
ziplines takes 3 protocol cap...
xiranite relay and pylons takes 1.

[nova lodge]

you would expect each building to have only 1..........

[wise cloud]

how to make xiranite water

[runic epoch]

Graph designs straight outta my chemistry papers

[runic epoch]

Xiranite+ water

[fossil spoke]

yeah the graph is similarr

[wise cloud]

😭

[nova lodge]

[lavish crown]

Wait minute if we talking going band for band … wouldn’t sandleaf be better anyways since you can multiply and place it anywhere on the AIC whereas your limited with the alternative?

[fossil spoke]

on valley ? yes

on wuling no

u just need to "bend" pipe better

[runic epoch]

You'd have to effectively double the space used by one forge on sandleaf

[lavish crown]

Naw the pipes can’t travels thru structures

[fossil spoke]

the thing is, it cant

[lavish crown]

They’re a PITA

[runic epoch]

Idts
Only travels through belts

[fossil spoke]

wellp

[lavish crown]

Are we talking about the same thing

I’m talking about Q everything I try to go thru another construct it goes red

[runic epoch]

Yes yes it can't
It can be used above belts though

[lavish crown]

Ohh so you have to have them travel parallel to your belts?

[runic epoch]

No you can just make them cut across your belt

[lavish crown]

But the belt is not a structure and yes I have done it I never though it be an issue

The issue is that the pip is higher than my shredder yet and it can’t pass they wtf

[runic epoch]

So you use those little spaces from the belts to make that wuling plant to carbon line for xiranite

But honestly I don't think you even need to do some voodoo piping
Planting units can be located in the corners of the build

[lavish crown]

Yea I agree while the yield is better it’s not worth the sanity loss

I have 8 sets of 3 planting loops all sandleaf cozy on one side of my PAC

[nova lodge]

new update not out yet, so it works.
but soon......

space demands your attention!

[lavish crown]

?

[regal narwhal]

FASTER BELTS PLEASE

[heavy ravine]

Is there anything that can really be done with the left over 20 originium in valley iv?

[nova lodge]

i just leave it as buffer / origocrust production.
once the depot amount goes below max, it will slowly go back to max again when done.

[heavy ravine]

I'm pretty much always at max

[marble yarrow]

sometimes use originium for depot delivery

[heavy ravine]

I guess I could refine it for depot node deliveries

Splitting the 30 per minute line into a 20 per minute one will be annoying though

Not really hard though

[stoic coyote]

my beloved yazhen syringe

[lavish crown]

peak

[nova lodge]

it works well....until the reactor is known to produce 2 solution per reactor :3
works good enough for current patch though.

[crimson inlet]

Pipes can't go through structures, only:

• conveyors
• unloaders/loaders
• xirenite depot section & point

[stoic coyote]

ferrium isnt enough

so

[lavish crown]

I thing Yazhen syringe is so underrated

[stoic coyote]

kinda maximized for now

[lavish crown]

For the level of effort and heal it provides, you can do 90% of the content with it

[nova lodge]

more or less, but hey, we have fluffy jinciao powder that allows you to face tank most enemies

or thorny yanzhen, if you want that instead.

[stoic coyote]

the only value rn

[cyan forge]

@runic epoch do u remember the overengineered bat minmax i did ystd for my wuling?

[crimson inlet]

fluffed jincao is the best healing, next to thorny yazhen powder

[lavish crown]

I have ember that heals 3k a pop

[crimson inlet]

and their craftable stuffs like food and spreads

[stoic coyote]

EMber is the one underrated

[runic epoch]

Was it pwm I forgor the exact Details

[cyan forge]

i redid it, i think it's now enuf til 2.46k

[crimson inlet]

my 3 stages of Buck A setups

[cyan forge]

after a buncha testing

it went to 5% before going back to 100%

[lavish crown]

The symmetry

[cyan forge]

[lavish crown]

I need codes now

[crimson inlet]

all that for a 6/min buck A each

[floral vector]

can you buy the explosives somewhere?

[crimson inlet]

its Asia

[floral vector]

making a whole product line for just explosives seems unnecessary rn

[cyan forge]

huh w8 fuck it broke again

[lavish crown]

Wait you did all this on your phone? How

[cyan forge]

ugh fuck

[crimson inlet]

I play Mindustry mobile before Factorio

I got used to playing factory games

[lavish crown]

This is a masterpiece

[floral vector]

how much do you get

[crimson inlet]

pre-stage 2-3

[lavish crown]

I can already tell just by look it’s at TPE and there zero idling or cloggage

[lavish crown]

Guide when?

[crimson inlet]

my 100 year unfinished guide

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QGKjVRwkJ7pxd6S_w17jTlRBaTai71SxdY77seSOnRk/edit?usp=drivesdk

[runic epoch]

By sacrificing symmetry
You too can fit all buck As in the main AIC

[marble yarrow]

yeah symmetry also limited me to just 2 HC 2 buck A all in main AIC

[crimson inlet]

I fit mine

this has 3 buck A facilties

[lavish crown]

I’m ver sacrificing symmetry

[lavish crown]

How long will it take me to rebuild this

[marble yarrow]

does this also have 2 HC along with it

[crimson inlet]

depends on how fast you can click and think

[crimson inlet]

no

[marble yarrow]

ohh ok i thought you were doing 3 Buck A + 2 HC all in main

[crimson inlet]

I have an HC at each sub-pac

so, 3 buck A and 3 HC

[crimson inlet]

my plan for now is to add basic mats production in here

so, amethyst parts, orgicrust, and ferrium parts

[runic epoch]

That's 3 Buck A's ?
I'm surprised you made that without using that corner

[crimson inlet]

focusing on both symmetry and directly linking belts is my philosophy of making factories

[crimson inlet]

the power of symmetry

[floral vector]

mobile players are lifeless on another level

[lavish crown]

I feel so small now

It was over my head, I knew nothing at all

[runic epoch]

I made mine cram in that corner

[true nebula]

what is wrong with mobile D:

[floral vector]

cramping gives me a bigger sense of satisfaction than symmetry

[crimson inlet]

I have to sacrifice symmetry on the corner

[marble yarrow]

this is why i instead went with 2HC + 2 Buck. the 3rd one messes everything

[crimson inlet]

but ehhh, if it works, it works

[floral vector]

I made my first buck A just now lol, gives 3/min

not much but it's honest work

[crimson inlet]

my dumbahh monkey wrenching shiii

[crimson inlet]

its 6/min

[floral vector]

wdym

[lavish crown]

I don’t even wanna do any more factory art now

I’ll just copy and paste

Why try

[crimson inlet]

I think you have a problem with the belts

[crimson inlet]

Buck A produces per every 10s, its supposed to be 6/min

[floral vector]

I mean think it's the steel bottles

but there's two of them

[crimson inlet]

how about the powder?

[floral vector]

I'll check after I'm done eating

[crimson inlet]

[floral vector]

belts should auto sync all the time tbh

feels more of a bug for it to not

[runic epoch]

Granted I made everything straight
Probably why it took more space

[floral vector]

You made it looong

[crimson inlet]

You're like me fr until I learned the strat of storing flowers

[runic epoch]

As in ?

[willow harness]

i set mine up so it makes the prod i want until its full and then stashes rest as flowers

and ill just use the flowers for processing lol

[crimson inlet]

since flowers don't require depot unloaders, I tend to seperate them from the production line to save space

[floral vector]

I add unloaders to mine lol

[willow harness]

why

[floral vector]

because they keep getting short

Buuut

[crimson inlet]

I plan on refitting the xirenite setup to implement this strat

[willow harness]

i just set my flowers up on 2nd sub pak with a stash and done

[floral vector]

I just realized now that I could put a stack in and not have to worry about being short

[runic epoch]

I find unloading flowers more consistent

• Less of a nightmare to work with in terms of belt arrangements

[floral vector]

try putting a stack in the seed picker

I think that should be enough

[runic epoch]

No way..... It's not like that's exactly what I'm doing!

[floral vector]

aren't you unloading it

[crimson inlet]

that's common knowledge

unloading it to a shredder

[floral vector]

ah that

[runic epoch]

I wonder where I get the flowers from

[runic epoch]

And I think you misunderstood my setup lmao
There are no planters in the chain at all

[floral vector]

thought you were talking about the planters

[floral vector]

ye lol

[crimson inlet]

oh dang

English is hard

[stoic coyote]

🔥

English is simple enough

to make it hard

[runic epoch]

The simpler it is the harder it gets

Inverse scaling difficulty

[grizzled osprey]

Sometimes I'm surprised I understand english

[green moon]

DONE

wuling has become corruption jelly proof city

[ornate frigate]

@plain bluff could never

[plain bluff]

I WILL

ONE DAY

[ornate frigate]

[grizzled osprey]

I'm gonna do yazhen (one day)

[ornate frigate]

Press X (doubt)

[cyan forge]

wtf

[green moon]

LMAO

[cyan forge]

this is driving me nuts

[crimson inlet]

I like the British's English more than American English

[runic epoch]

British English just makes you sound more eloquent
Only applicable to certain accents

[shut silo]

how do yall open dis?

[runic epoch]

There's a hidden wall

[shut silo]

what can I do?

[green moon]

make sure u bring at least 8 beam turrets

[runic epoch]

You can beat it without those

[shut silo]

oh yeah...

I just need to slash the wall

I guess that's what stopping me from producing 12 ciranite battrys

[green moon]

i will fill wuling holes and crevices with green industrial sewage

and i will DO IT

[delicate flax]

already did this
not original bro /j

[green moon]

🥀

[shut silo]

is that the reason why it's cropped so weirdly?

[crimson inlet]

🥀 we be out here filling liquid gold in their region

[crimson inlet]

gold to them, limestone to us

[green moon]

xiranite + water in a nutshell

[strong quiver]

gotta really ask what was those Tianshi are really working

when we literally create their savior powder out of leaves

[green moon]

thats why reality sucks

how come coal in water doesnt give me magical green liquid

[crimson inlet]

Tianshi got them brain fog for not making this recipe sooner

[strong quiver]

n water

[green moon]

wait

[cyan forge]

jesus

[green moon]

isnt jingyu also got some place to fill?

[green moon]

also got 500 ml of dettol

[remote cipher]

What is there to speak about in this channel

To gatorrade up the map?

😶‍🌫️😶‍🌫️

[cinder cloak]

that's one of them at least

[remote cipher]

Fill up the lush ponds with herbal water

[strong quiver]

we help you if you wanna build your own factory

[remote cipher]

🤣🤣🤣

[strong quiver]

which is more optimized

[crimson inlet]

We are here fully supplying the whole of Wuling's xirenite crisis before the story ever progresses

[remote cipher]

Indeed that makes sense

[crimson inlet]

Like:
Give 200 xirenite
Gives 41k

[green moon]

dettol > gatorade 🥀

[crimson inlet]

that's no Gatorade or Dettol bro, its Mountain Dew

[cinder cloak]

More like:
Give 200 xiranite
Do you accept them in the form of batteries?

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mountain-dew-soda-bottle-of-mountain-dew-mtn-dew-gif-8486280721338418216

[green moon]

BRUH THAT BRIGHTNESS u sure its not JINGCAO LIQUID???

[crimson inlet]

do you accept bottled ones?

[crimson inlet]

green is green man, imma be surprised if its hulk

[green moon]

this is much more like jincao

🥀

[crimson inlet]

Me on my way to spend all my originium on sanity

[strong quiver]

me spending all my OG on Gilberta swimsuit skin

[ornate frigate]

Based

[unreal laurel]

what a glutton

even my fatass cant eat that much

[marble yarrow]

wdym you fluctuate when offline? bro you are only with yourself 😭

[unreal laurel]

its magic

[marble yarrow]

purposely went offline for 2 hours to see the 2 hr chart and yes, they dont act normally

[stuck tendon]

Anyone got a fast zipline delivery route i could copy? Sucks having to use this one and go around

[green moon]

NOW EVEN JINGYU VALLEY IS BLESSED WITH XIRANITE

[north monolith]

Classic big industrial enterprise dumping their toxic waste in the river of a local village.

[green moon]

dupont

[wet pagoda]

go fill the blue quest area with the tank of 40000 units

[green moon]

scroll up bruh

u think i didnt?

[wet pagoda]

mb xd

[green moon]

[wet pagoda]

if only we could empty all the area of the city and fill them with another liquid

[green moon]

i gonna fill the whole wuling with xiranite

[wet pagoda]

~~waterfall ~~ xinaritefall

[green moon]

together we shall make wuling great again

ppl will cook with xiranite , drinking xiranite

wash with xiranite

and bathe with xiranite

[cinder cloak]

we're seeing the birth of Mtw Dew on Wuling

Wuling Dew

[green moon]

imagine this waterfall is xiranite

[cinder cloak]

Fangyi's clothes are going to be fully green at this point once that goes to the washer

[wet pagoda]

wonder what other liquid there gonen be

[green moon]

jincao or yazhen liquid is bright green, like soda

[cinder cloak]

beer

[green moon]

and if u stand inside jincao pool or yazhen pool, it can heal u

[wet pagoda]

wait really ?

[green moon]

yes

150/sec

[analog elbow]

0 Sanity Behavior

[long zenith]

get away from the facilities bruh

[analog elbow]

power pleatue moment

[remote cipher]

You’ll drown if the pool is too deep kekw

Not the best healing method

[remote cipher]

I thought that only exists in Indo

I guess it’s brittish

[green moon]

🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀 🥀

pepsi???????????

MIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID

[remote cipher]

Why is bro talking about pepsi now

[unreal laurel]

Y not

[analog elbow]

Thanks for your sacrifice (i legit thought we could ride it)

[cinder cloak]

would be cool if the 2.X region will have a vast land, and will let us drive them UWST trucks around (or maybe our own Endfield ver.)

Having a 4-seater vehicle and see my party members riding with me would be pretty cool.

[nova lodge]

most definitly gonna be added in future update.....in an insane big delivery map that is.

[cinder cloak]

yes give me more death stranding

[nova lodge]

enjoy your daily deliveries :3, gonna take longer than ziplines....even with a vehicle.

[cinder cloak]

if they do go for that, they gotta implement the road reconstruction too

produce materials thru AIC -> repair roads -> convenient path towards delivery points/POIs on the map

[nova lodge]

please raise protocol capacity 1st.

[cinder cloak]

wait you guys actually running out of protocol capacity?

or is it just because you're trying to fill up the entirety of Wuling with Xiranite lmao

[nova lodge]

i am setting pumps in nearly every single water sources i see, especially near AIC areas :3

if you wanna involves pumps and dispensers in quest and puzzles, make it easy for me to place them without limits at least.

[cinder cloak]

I just stash them once the puzzles are done

but yeah, would be nice if they increase the protocol capacity regardless

[nova lodge]

i pre-place my pumps for future AIC builds.
some water source are a pain to adjust.

[cinder cloak]

so people can just have fun building more stuff outside the AIC lol

[mellow carbon]

Hello can anyone help me? I don't know what to do w my main base in arknights im end game im trying to make my base as efficient and possible and give me more power

[nova lodge]

wulling main base or V4 main base?

[mellow carbon]

The hub one

I just started wuling i am having trouble w the carbon thing

[shut rune]

how do i put liquid xiranites for fertilizer?

[quick sparrow]

is there a mission that i should fill this up? or i can just go straight doing it?

[mellow carbon]

HOW DO U GET THAT 😭

[cinder cloak]

Reactor Crucible: Input 1 belt xiranite, 1 pipe water -> input to Fertilizer

[cinder cloak]

just by following along the main quest yes.

[shut rune]

max 2 forge of the skies crafted rn or what?

[cinder cloak]

yeah only 2 max forge of the skies rn

[quick sparrow]

already cleared the main quest but mine is still regular water tho

[cinder cloak]

oh, nah you don't really have to do that

man's on a mission to fill up the entirety of Wuling with Xiranites

[quick sparrow]

ohh so its not really a side quest

[modest barn]

I feel like I'm generating not many stock bills

[cinder cloak]

Valley or Wuling bills?

[ancient zinc]

Very sus pfp…

[modest barn]

Valley . Might be a skill issue from me I have one bp a part making buck capsule b and two for the blue bat (I forgot the name)

[cinder cloak]

that's not even Yvonne

lmao

[ancient zinc]

Yeah..it’s from Wuwa

[cinder cloak]

well soon you'll be changing those to buck capsule As and purple bats, so unless you can produce those now I wouldn't worry about max bills profits at the moment

continue progressing for now and get max ore yields for Valley 4

[dull night]

Yeah this is natural progression

[cinder cloak]

mornin' Wolfe

[dull night]

Basically use factory to make what you need for now and then gradually build it up as you unlock more

[dull night]

Morning 🙂

[modest barn]

I maxed out like most.of the stuff I'm just trying to max yeild like other place in valley but some areas with ores are locked off should I just progress the side missions before going to wuling

[little cipher]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/a0I51Rf2xxs

Why is this in my feed

[runic epoch]

Finally

[little cipher]

[modest barn]

I'm doing like stuff for yvonne as in like doing eelay towers

[quartz aspen]

wait now that im in wuling, what healing item should i make and use instead of Buck A?

[cinder cloak]

that thing took me like 5 days of essence farming in Wuling

[cinder cloak]

I personally went and finished Wuling before re-optimizing Valley 4

I did make sure I was already producing buck capsule As and purple bats before moving to the next region though

honestly it's up to you

you can definitely optimize Valley 4 before moving to Wuling

[modest barn]

I'll optimize so offline production I can just trade majority

[cinder cloak]

alright, some ore deposits are locked behind side quests btw, so try to get those first.

[green moon]

just fill everything up with XIRANITE

[dull night]

Can’t remember where my limiter is 😭

[green moon]

it only takes 12hrs to fill up every holes and crevices in wuling

[zinc wraith]

how do I get depot busses in Wuling? I've researched them and got all but the last upgrade for the aic area, but they don't appear naturally and I can't find them in my facility list

[cinder cloak]

again lmao

or was it a different dude who had this problem earlier

[dull night]

Nah same dude same bs

[cinder cloak]

lmao

send screencap of your factory again

[modest barn]

I need like a stuff to do. So I'm wondering is there anything like flowchart yall yourselves follow? In optimizing valley 4 before leaving to wulin

[zinc wraith]

nvm think I found it

[dull night]

I’m just gonna search chat and find the earlier talk about it lol

[quick sparrow]

yeah, discovered it just now lmao
i thought it was a side quest
do you just route liquid xiranite tubes to all wuling?

[dull night]

The answer is up there somewhere

[green moon]

YES

[cinder cloak]

here's the screenshot from earlier if it helps

[cinder cloak]

I just go with what I feel like I wanna do really

[dull night]

It does and once again it seems ive fallen for the “big icon in the way” trap

Ty

[quick sparrow]

ngl sounds fun
but im too employed for this
i only play a few minutes daily
wont the pressure of the liquid goes weaker the longer the tube go?

[cinder cloak]

remember an Icon on the belt indicates an item protocol port

[steady bronze]

How reliable are circular conveyor belts

I'm thinking of making a "roundabout" when there's an overflow of materials

[dull night]

Thank you I’ll be sure to remember this for 6 hours

[modest barn]

I have a bit of issues XD as in my thought have issues so I need order to deal with but I'll try to make one I'm not sure how but I'll do so ty for the help

[dull night]

Could you not just use protocol stash

[steady bronze]

Um. I'm on a mission to experiment with weird designs so uh...

[green moon]

no , this aint satisfactory

[cinder cloak]

how about trying to gain the most you can with your current ore yields as a start?

[modest barn]

Alright ty

[steady bronze]

Oh and uh does rain make your factory have rust or something

[dull night]

No

[steady bronze]

Yey

[dull night]

Would personally lose my mind if my factory needed a sub routed WD-40 pipeline

[steady bronze]

So yeah is it common to use circular paths than straight ones

[dull night]

Common to have short bendy ones for efficiency in tight spaces but not common to make circles

[steady bronze]

Technically my goal is to "stall" the products if there's an inventory error

[dull night]

How much do you enjoy math?

[steady bronze]

I'm determined enough.

[cinder cloak]

oh no he's going to pull out his thesis papers again

[steady bronze]

I'm gonna try to use road design that manages traffic on my factory design

And that supposed traffic should be overflow...

If there is an overflow at least

[steel narwhal]

PEAK WULING SUB-PAIC BUILD 🔥

[dull night]

You can use splitters on your belt to theoretically time output

[steady bronze]

Oooh so Splitters and roundabouts....

[dull night]

Each splitter incrementally increasing time taken to transport

[steady bronze]

Oh that's great

Is there a sorter...

[dull night]

Even if you don’t split to different belt, just put splitters on one belt

[crimson inlet]

GIMME your tips

[steady bronze]

I'm planing to use the splitter to lead into different roundabouts then to sort the overflow

[crimson inlet]

I need that

[steady bronze]

Leading to storage ofc and until that overflows, that would be a different problem

[runic epoch]

Wuling

Attack boost

[crimson inlet]

any engraving focuses?

[dull night]

You can just use it on one belt and then put protocol stash at the end

[runic epoch]

Intellect/anything else

[dull night]

I can’t remember the exact math on the timings but you can pretty reliably time it

[steady bronze]

Theoretically how many splitters can I use and what's the most time I can delay the overflow

[crimson inlet]

damn, aight

[marble yarrow]

as long as you have space

[steady bronze]

Oh there isn't infinite space?

[glossy pivot]

now put piplines above it

[steady bronze]

This isn't satisfactory afterall

Alright last question... Theoretically, circles consume less space right?

[dull night]

Not sure on specifics but if you’re willing to do the math you can time the splitter sequence on one belt leading to protocol stash to “time” output with depot cap

[steady bronze]

The factory stops when it's full right.... So yeah basically I don't want it to stop even if it overflows

Do the products despawn or do they stay on the conveyor belt

[dull night]

They stay

[steady bronze]

AH YES

[dull night]

So it’s really more a passion project, you don’t actually have to do it lol

[runic epoch]

You're better off just running it at full uptime

[dull night]

^

[dull night]

Woke up and my xiranite isn’t depleted or even down 🫣

[steady bronze]

I may sound like a madman here but
Since my main goal is to not stop the factory when the storage cap exceeds... My plan is to yeah keep the items on the belt either by protocol stash or circles

@runic epoch wouldn't that deplete a lot of my mats tho

[glossy pivot]

the factory gameplay isnt as hard as satisfactory dont bother too much honestly

[glossy pivot]

then you can just put the protocol stash

[grizzled osprey]

hope it gets harder

[dull night]

If you’re using output from depot bus or PAC then just route it to protocol stash and it’ll automatically feed it back out when there’s a need

[runic epoch]

If you're gonna end up hitting the limit you might as well run at full efficiency

And if your depot Is full it'll just clog

[glossy pivot]

just do tons of them with seperater and they will spread evenly

[steady bronze]

Fair point run at 100% uptime

[glossy pivot]

i dont think it will get that harder

[grizzled osprey]

I hope

[glossy pivot]

they will prolly just implement another mechanics with each area

[dull night]

For what it’s worth I am actively trying to find a twitter post I read a few days ago that dis exactly what you’re trying to do lol

[steady bronze]

Ok yeah I think it's inevitable to make the depot full so what I'm gonna do really is to not clog the factory a single time that I play this game

[marble yarrow]

make it harder. just use 200 Power, no battery banks

[glossy pivot]

i was gonna say point is that everyone can enjoy it so making it too hard is not a good thing

[runic epoch]

Log in
Sell
Boom depot not full

[grizzled osprey]

as long as it doesn't get easier

[glossy pivot]

im sure it wont haha

[steady bronze]

Is there an auto sell btw?

[dull night]

This is unnecessary as both things = mats not being used

[glossy pivot]

end wuling building will get messy i can already tell it

[grizzled osprey]

I said make it harder, I don't want a handicap

[dull night]

As long as they’re rerouted to depot through stash then you have max output really

[elder flame]

You’ll end up walking your deliveries

[marble yarrow]

they wont. some people cant even read already

[glossy pivot]

one way to make it harder would be to let us get more money in some way

[elder flame]

I want more complicated recipes

[glossy pivot]

D:

[steady bronze]

Huh

Nice

Anyways how about water

[grizzled osprey]

I'm gonna try to make a really compact base and proceed to fail (when wuling gets fully released)

[glossy pivot]

thats the spirit

[nova lodge]

if things got harder, there did better be a progression / reward tied to it.

[steady bronze]

Are pipes limited underground or can it go up top

[marble yarrow]

limited time event where you trade wuling battery for oroberyl

[grizzled osprey]

but everyone will get it anyway with blueprint sharing

[nova lodge]

feature utilized well, its fair ;3

[grizzled osprey]

I guess

[nova lodge]

*why didn't i save my batteries *

[steady bronze]

Ok last weird question... Is it possible to complete the game without using depot as storage

[nova lodge]

sure, its called playing the game....genshin style.

just without the gear at all, since no depot = no aic production.

[runic epoch]

I mean you could
It'd just take forever

[dull night]

@steady bronze is this basically what you’re asking for?

[grizzled osprey]

Technically you can sit there and manually input and output stuff

[steady bronze]

Yeah technically. But I want more circles

[nova lodge]

that's one way to go about it.

[dull night]

Really keen on the circles huh

[grizzled osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[steady bronze]

Circles make more distance

And again I wanna do a roundabout design

Is it possible to make a roundabout design or nah

[dull night]

Negligible difference

[steady bronze]

Loop systems are kinda useless then?

[dull night]

There’s just more efficient ways to go about it

Also limited space

[steady bronze]

[dull night]

You’d eventually reach a sort of bottleneck where you have more loops than production lol

[steady bronze]

That's.... The point....

[devout egret]

got nothing to do just waiting for the update. is the update tommorow right?

[dull night]

I mean you’ll not have space for factory parts that make stuff you need

[runic epoch]

Why would you bottleneck yourself

[steady bronze]

Alright then. What's the minimum amount of factories you need to make the important stuff

[dull night]

If you’re keen on timing things, splitters do stall belt movement