aic-factory

[buoyant vault]

Does anyone wants to share aic factory blueprint for valley IV endgame

[tired shore]

and then instead of your base churning past the ferrium in 6.6 days, youll be done in minutes, and you get so many more syringes!

(this argument for why you should do this is non sensical)

[dull night]

Okay is there anything I actually can do with it or should I scrap it. Or is this used to regulate input flow or as a placeholder for future expansion into above gaps?

[storm garnet]

remember 1:2 plant ratio, so you make 60/min of a plant to be able to use 30/min

after that, you shred a plant to make 2 powder

[dull night]

I’m actually a pretty smart guy, this factory system just makes me look and feel dumb as rocks sometimes

[storm garnet]

each food c line uses 1 powder

[cinder cloak]

yeah wait it's kinda hard to do math when I just finished work not too long ago

[hidden temple]

it's the 6/min production I'm after
paired with like 10/min batts (cuz of 1/min comps) and just be enough to outsell the outpost

[dull night]

I work 6am to 4:45pm in a factory 4 days a week and I come home and build factories.

[obsidian lichen]

has there been a fac set up created that utilizes only the 3 sub pacs and still produces 18/18

[winged cedar]

Check Kyostin on YouTube imo that’s the best and easiest one

[cinder cloak]

man's 24/7 a factory worker

[tired shore]

you can match outpost production with 5.75/min syringes (all automatic) +7.5/min batteries.

[storm garnet]

@dull night this is the only thing you want to do with xiranite really

[tired shore]

theres no reason why you need to do manual transfer for anything

[storm garnet]

thermal banks are off cause i'm using hc batteries for now

[celest obsidian]

Is there any good sc battery build for fully expanded sub pac?

[winged cedar]

Good to know I’m doing the same

[dull night]

Man the factory my actual work is at is pleasant, we make ice cream cones and sweets lol. It’s hot at hell all day with the ovens but when I come home tired, the Endfield factories feel like hell lol

[hidden temple]

ah yeah, the mats were slowly stockpiling. thanks for the numbers

[teal hemlock]

was able to drop average max power from 4600 to ~4000 by making this lousy contraption as it still has some issues but its 3 am and I gotta sleep cuz brain is cooked 😵‍💫

[runic epoch]

I mean it's not everyday you become god and place down factory lines yourself in a real factory

[round barn]

I finally successfully moved 50k brown ore from valley to wuling in less than 20 mins

[analog elbow]

Delivery Goes Brr

[crisp idol]

how does metastorage work exactly; should i aim for 1080/min or 1055/min usage in V4

[empty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/why-huh-but-why-gif-13199396

[storm garnet]

time to move the wuling food a bit to make the depot usage a bit more pretty

[runic epoch]

Metastorage duplicates
You can keep that 1080 usage

[storm garnet]

dont like this

[dull night]

I’ve got 4 people working under me in my real life factory, I go home and I’ve got Perlica on my ass and gotta do it all myself 😭

You can’t delegate shit here man

[storm garnet]

metastorage is like out of thin air, free shit

[empty furnace]

i delegate 75% of my crop harvesting and germinating to my other teammates, but they wont fertilize...they keep saying something about how they wont touch poop

[storm garnet]

become a streamer and hire people to play for you

[dull night]

Megastorage lets you pick an item and automatically every hour transfer it, free of charge out of thin air without depleting your resources. Like free mats

[crisp idol]

amazing, glory to endfield industries

[dull night]

Brother I work nearly 11 hours a day on the 4 days I work and on the 3 days I’m off I’m getting drunk for 2 of em and an early night on the Sunday lmao

[empty furnace]

also, i would not eat crops grown with fertilizer made using liquid electricity

[hollow sentinel]

But that is where electrolytes come from

[storm garnet]

it's not liquid electricity, it's liquid carbon and water, much more sofisticated

[dull night]

That little box is my break room and it’s where I take a break from working in a factory to build factories in Endfield 😅

My life is factories and I don’t even like them man

[storm garnet]

hey dawg, we heard you like factories, so we put a factory in your factory so you can....

[empty furnace]

its carbon, water, and metal lol

[dull night]

Can’t wait to get to my break at the factory so I can play factory on my phone

[storm garnet]

what metal

[empty furnace]

originium

[dull night]

No thrash no party

[storm garnet]

that's for batteries

[empty furnace]

oh ya

hahahaha im so dumb

[zealous pelican]

for valley iv the max extra citrome c only 12?

[storm garnet]

xiranite itself is just carbon and water

[dull night]

Omg me too

[storm garnet]

lol

[empty furnace]

ya youre right, im brainfarting over here because i probably should go to bed lol

[storm garnet]

and i should go cook something, but here we are

just cooking my brain

[dull night]

Oh I cooked the nicest dinner today

[cinder cloak]

wait isn't 24/min citrome [c] (or 12/min both buck and cit [c]) = 480 amethyst ore usage? or am I mathing wrong again

[carmine igloo]

This good?

[storm garnet]

i'm still missing lunch

what is dinner

2:23 am btw

[zealous pelican]

is this the max u can do ?

[cinder cloak]

still early

[empty furnace]

i think its half that. it requires less amethyst per bottle than steel requires ferium i believe

[carmine igloo]

Mine is 10:23am

[dull night]

Ima dm you some fucked up homemade excellence and get you in the mood. Gotta eat buddy

[storm garnet]

you are missing half your amethyst

[cinder cloak]

amethyst bottle needs 2 amethyst fiber for 60/min, and 2 amethyst fiber is 2 amethyst ores no?

[storm garnet]

it's 240/min

[cinder cloak]

btw you're missing amethyst ore yield

[storm garnet]

you can make 12/min capsule c

[storm garnet]

yes

[cinder cloak]

oh wait he's actually doing 12/min cit [c] with only 120/min amethyst ore

[storm garnet]

btw, all amethyst always needs to become fiber first, same with ferrium and ferrium cubes

[cinder cloak]

ok uh yeah those numbers proves it lmao

[dull night]

So general consensus with my wuling factory after seeing my AIC report and my setup is “if it ain’t broke don’t fix it?”

[storm garnet]

you can get some fiber making somewhere if you have an extra output and input, then just get fiber outputs elsewhere

i do that in a few places

[zealous pelican]

i still have space

[hollow sentinel]

This is the max Valley 4 ore production

[zealous pelican]

well i can go get the amethyst

[storm garnet]

if doing 60/min xiranite and 12/min batteries, then yes

[storm garnet]

though, make food too

[hollow sentinel]

KyoStinV 😍

[dull night]

Yes I said this above ^^^^

[zealous pelican]

i copied this

[dull night]

My questions were about learning things so I could manually remake it myself because I want to learn

YouTube is only temporary solution I want to understand and learn

Otherwise I never will

[cinder cloak]

can still fit a 20/min usage on originium ore somewhere

[dull night]

I care more about learning than optimising, so I optimised first so I can try reverse engineer it with a little help

[storm garnet]

xiranite is 60/min, don't care about anything else as long as depot is not full

[storm garnet]

welcome to the dark side

the devs were trolling with thos 20/min man

life would be so easy if it just didn't exist

just 18/min and call it a day

[white verge]

Time to passively produce every single item, even if it takes 28.33 minutes to make 1 cryston component (I need 3 years to max the production at 80k items)

[dull night]

Every morning I wake up and pay my wuling bills and do my trading and I am always somehow up in resources

Every resource is up

I was concerned about decline but it isn’t happening

[storm garnet]

usage should be 60/min too, but you'll get there

[dull night]

It’s this I think

The reactor is going nowhere

But I also don’t think so? Because if it has no output then it’s max stacked so surely wouldn’t slow everything down after it’s full

[storm garnet]

what are the shredders most close to the bottom even for

[hollow sentinel]

That is just for you to have a place to fill your bottles for liquid xiranite

So you can spray it everywhere

[storm garnet]

it's the belt splitter going into the protocol storage

wait, nvm

[dull night]

I’m not getting any of this in storage

[storm garnet]

man, idk lol

[hollow sentinel]

It will once the fluid tank is full

[storm garnet]

maybe it's the other forge

[hollow sentinel]

You have to turn OFF the item filter

[dull night]

Can you see something I don’t see here because I would like to get liquid xyranite too

[storm garnet]

is the tank full of xiranite?

maybe it has water or something

[placid cobalt]

are there any mining spot in Burdonsout Hill?

[hollow sentinel]

Top left circle is the filter that blocks xiranite from going to stroage

Bottom right is the fluid tank where you can fill your bottles

[dull night]

My video?

[storm garnet]

ah, right, it's a filter. yea, just turn it off

but then, yield wouldn't be 60/min

this is about usage

let me check the vid...

[hollow sentinel]

Xiranite Yield should be 60

[white verge]

Make sandleaf powder

[hollow sentinel]

That is the highest possible rn

[dull night]

Okay, please bear with me as I’ve taken in a lot of info in the last 2 hours. I do profusely apologise for the questions.

[placid cobalt]

What's maximum yield for Originium in Wuling?

[dull night]

So if 360

[placid cobalt]

Thank youu

[dull night]

So if I actually figure this out with the filter, can you point that out to me? And can you explain if you know why this works the way it does?

I’m asking now so I don’t have to later

[storm garnet]

no, the ones that are still fully visible

the second row of food powder

[hollow sentinel]

Filter has a setting to stop passing items after certain number has passed

[dull night]

Yeah I know that

How does that apply to this apparatus? What am I missing is my question, sorry

[hollow sentinel]

It is just there to stop the flow in the design

[dull night]

This game makes me feel so dumb man I’m a smart guy and I don’t even know how to phrase my questions with the factory

[hollow sentinel]

If used normally it allows you to set how many items can go through before it blocks it

[storm garnet]

you can use the on off feature and put 1 as quantity to just turn on and off a belt, same with pipes

[white verge]

I wonder which one, there are 5 shredders in the scene

[heavy ravine]

Should I be sending Ferrium to Wuling?

[hollow sentinel]

Yes if you want to minmax

[dull night]

Okay, I know how the limiter works, I’ve known this whole time. What specifically about that limiter is obstructing me 😭

[hollow sentinel]

You need all the ferrium you can get your hands on

[hollow sentinel]

The QTY allowed is already 1 probably

It only allows a single item through before it blocks the path

[storm garnet]

well, as good as madness can be

[dull night]

Oh damn I didn’t even consider the most sensible solution

[storm garnet]

wrong reply

[dull night]

To me or ?

[storm garnet]

nvm, i was reading the inputs and outputs backwards, all good

[heavy ravine]

I guess importing ferrium only puts me 5 ferrium short of an entirely saturated Syringe set up instead of 30?

[dull night]

Let me just check what my input limit is and I’ll
Get back

[heavy ravine]

Is there a ferrium product that is more efficient to send than raw ferrium?

[storm garnet]

the best thing to import is ferrium, but even that is not that necessary

[heavy ravine]

I'd rather slightly hurt my Valley IV production for more Wuling production

[burnt wedge]

Why is the theoretical yield of originium ore in my wuling base much higher than my actual yield when all ore veins in wuling have the electric mining rig?

[runic epoch]

Metastorage doesn't hurt V4 production

And you'd have a decent amount of depot for manual importing from dijiang if that's what you were referring to

[storm garnet]

you can maybe import ferrium cubes or ferrium parts, but then ratios get weird

cost wise, this is the best to meta transfer, but you don't need steel in wuling

[heavy ravine]

You just need a ton of components and stock bills for artificing

Trying to get the best value out of wuling that I can for it

[runic epoch]

Ferrium is unrelated to components

[storm garnet]

the only thing that really matters is getting 60/min xiranite

[dull night]

Oh fuck off

😭😭😭

[empty furnace]

if only the separating unit could separate it back into ferrium lol

[storm garnet]

mmm

well, i only say it's the best cause you save on buildings making it, and sandleaf powder

[heavy ravine]

Yeah just two lines of xyranite doesnt seem enough to both pay off my stock and make components

[dull night]

I can’t believe how fuckin stupid the answer was man

[storm garnet]

you can also transfer steel part if you are going to make that with steel

[empty furnace]

you finally found your 5/min xira

[storm garnet]

steel bottles are 5 cost for some reason, instead of 4, so not worth it

[dull night]

I have like 8 pages in a notebook detailing my understanding of how it all works and I overlooked something so dumb

[runic epoch]

Diabolical mistakes

All part of perlica propaganda

[dull night]

Well I did say earlier that I was here to learn. Learn I did.

[storm garnet]

this is why i avoid control units as much as possible

i'm only using them for fertilizers atm

aka, for nothing

cause i'm not a loser

[empty furnace]

ur still a loser but for other reasons

[dull night]

I forgot about it because my brain was too trained on thinking of them as my means to manage component production

[storm garnet]

tru

[runic epoch]

When I hear loser I just think of kenshi yonezu

[dull night]

I’m not a freak, what the hell am’nt I doing here

[storm garnet]

you doing fine, dear, just get that sweet 60/min xiranite

[dull night]

Can’t even make a Radiohead joke without Perlica over here on my ass

[pure egret]

should i keep belt going back to depot?

[empty furnace]

isnt it creep not freak? i dont listen to radiohead fair warning

[ancient zinc]

Sometimes you have to find ways

[dull night]

It is yeah, but it was a joke lol

[earnest steeple]

It does. 9 (-1.5) / min battery + 1.5/min components, +5.75 syringe allows you to have components and still sell everything offm

[storm garnet]

HACKING!!!!

[ancient zinc]

Dang it..why u blow up my cover

[runic epoch]

Hrmm this looks like v4
What are those ferrium splitters for

[dull night]

Bro why u tag me in this I feel attacked what did I do to you

[empty furnace]

im gonna start outing you immediately 🦝

[ancient zinc]

Nah..I saw u having trouble with Xira

[dull night]

Me when I see wulf I mean someone when I some when I

[heavy ravine]

This requires importing though right? Cause I'm only making 4.5/min of Syringes

[dull night]

Bro I’m fine with my gains lol

[storm garnet]

i forgot i was moving around my wuling food lines

[ancient zinc]

Pls have mercy on my poor soul

[dull night]

You can suck your battery acid

[pure egret]

to take ferrium back to depot, im really low.

[empty furnace]

ill give you one more day of teasing the fresh-to-wulings

[dull night]

ACCUSATIONS!

[ancient zinc]

It’s all fun and game till I start moving Amesty ore from Valley to Wuling

[earnest steeple]

Yeah, you need Valley IV lv12 to metastorage transfer ferrium. Even if you don't, it'll be a while before stock bills fully stock up.

[dull night]

I’m fair game lol. I’m here 10/11 days

[ancient zinc]

Accuse this

[empty furnace]

lol fair

[storm garnet]

i love moving around half a factory and end up basically the same but it just looks different

actually, i dont love it

[dull night]

Oh what you want me to fertilise a hot babe? If I must, goddamn I hate it here

[runic epoch]

Me when I realise ratios make everything look the same

[empty furnace]

damn i didnt even get the joke til you said it

[dull night]

lol I own up to my shortcomings man I’m here to learn 😅

[ancient zinc]

The more u hate it = u loved it

[dull night]

I can’t tell if you’re insulting me or not

[ancient zinc]

Way too innocent I see

[cinder cloak]

finally done

I hate ya'll for showing me this btw

[empty furnace]

no i really didnt get it lol

[dull night]

😅😅

[ancient zinc]

Pfft

[storm garnet]

my brain says i can move the wuling food line 1 tile up if i just sacrifice my family to the belt bridge cult with 1 belt bridge

[nova cradle]

can you guys show me what you do with this little corner here? :D

[cinder cloak]

brother belt bridges are so sexy tho

[storm garnet]

now change 6/min capsule a to citrome a, just in case it fills up

[dull night]

From what I’ve heard tonight, you need to gain more make factory bigger

[empty furnace]

a big looping belt with a single fillet on it. dubbed meatspin

[storm garnet]

but those belt bugs hunt me

[runic epoch]

My corner is too small for this 😭
I just have a filling unit for citr c there

[storm garnet]

otherwise yea, love bridges

[nova cradle]

oki doki

[dull night]

Endgame is having a free AIC plot to draw pictures with belts

[nova cradle]

i like deleted all my factories again

Im rebuilding my factory

[dull night]

No for real tho, what are you looking to build?

[nova cradle]

then i can grow it

[nova cradle]

something that lets me use the L shaped bus depot

[dull night]

Which site

[pure egret]

0 ferrium...

[nova cradle]

im wasting that bus depot side

[dull night]

If you want to build from scratch you can search in blueprint channel by name and do it that way, or you can copy from YouTube for max gains and still have everyone confused like I did

[nova cradle]

so i wanna see what others looks like

[cinder cloak]

muh wuling

[nova cradle]

i see i appreciate that a lot. I like seeing guides. I wanna see others creations here too

[dull night]

I’ll show mine, wuling and valley 4

[storm garnet]

well, the obvious first thing is to get 18/min food a and hc batteries

[nova cradle]

just the L part of the bus

the small L part

[dull night]

Brother if it were my choice I’d live in the L part of everything

[dull night]

Also depends on how you rotate

[dull night]

Okay valley 4 with that circle bit top right

I gotcha

[heavy ravine]

So if I'm importing 25 Ferrium per minute to Wuling I need to basically take a hit of 2 belts worth of efficiency to my saturated battery/capsule lines?

[empty furnace]

if theres anything important to keep in mind here is that theres more than enough room to overproduce and being 100% space efficient will probably never be necessary to be 100% profit efficient

[ancient zinc]

Guess what..

[storm garnet]

that small depot looks nice, though can't be me, have to use all

[storm garnet]

sometimes you can't have everything, like filling every single depot tile with outputs or even inputs

[nova cradle]

i don't see 2 depots stick next to each other fitting there. I don't know how to maximize that space then. Maybe one facility with 2x products going out but that corner means i have to build my factory based on that side or else ill rearrange all over again

[storm garnet]

trust me, i know from experience

[cinder cloak]

I could probably forgo the use of the AIC and just have the Yazhen production line under a depot as well, but I like this setup right now, with a big empty row in the center

[storm garnet]

i suffer from it

[ancient zinc]

Teach me sensei

Do u know da wei?

[storm garnet]

first rule of optimization: the most optimized way looks ugly as fuck

[bronze vector]

hi how do i deal with 670/s usage of ferrium ore

[empty furnace]

second rule of optimization. you can be too optimized

[bronze vector]

with only 120/s inp

[ancient zinc]

Turn off

[cinder cloak]

true, screw optimization

unless you can make it pretty/symmetrical

[storm garnet]

you don't, you deal with more

[empty furnace]

is this dad rock i hear?

[nova cradle]

nice base~

very organized

each facilitity with its own job

[dull night]

My band actually and yes I’m a dad

[empty furnace]

hey nice! whats ur band called

[storm garnet]

so empty, it looks like wuling

[ancient zinc]

Hi dad

I’m son

[dull night]

I don’t want to disclose this yet because we haven’t put anything out yet and I just forgot to mute my audio

[empty furnace]

oooooooh SHIT

[storm garnet]

each empty tileset is a sin to me

[empty furnace]

im a first listener

i knew you before you were famous

[dull night]

I’ll mute and reupload hang on

[nova cradle]

i am a first listener that's so cool

[storm garnet]

leeeaaaaaaaaks!!!!

[ancient zinc]

Too late

[nova cradle]

smoldering and shouldering the burden of desire hearts talking getting colder days are ever older 🎶 🎸

[empty furnace]

i get it, if any of my past bands knew i did something like that by accident theyd be pretty annoyed with me lol

[ancient zinc]

Everyone wants the SAUCE

[storm garnet]

sounds great btw

[ancient zinc]

Give the pasta sauce

[dull night]

Thank you lol

[storm garnet]

he sent me pasta sauce on dms already

(literally lol)

[ancient zinc]

[dull night]

That wasn’t pasta that was Chinese noodles

[storm garnet]

well, kinda the same

[ancient zinc]

Brown Korean noodles?

[storm garnet]

pasta is italian noodles

[dull night]

He thinks this is pasta

Smh

[empty furnace]

or chinese noodles are chinese pasta!

[ancient zinc]

Nutella Korean noodles?

[grand vault]

daily shit forging

[ancient zinc]

Keep those yield coming

[storm garnet]

whatever, i was first with sauce, so i win

[empty furnace]

gotta get them 27 poops a day! poop farmers unite!

[cinder cloak]

man I applaud your patience for gathering those turds

[grand vault]

27 ? I thought it's 25 ? where's the other 2 ?

[storm garnet]

another lo-

[ancient zinc]

This man scares me….

[dull night]

Bro I do like 3 a day and wonder what I’m doing and turn the game off

[empty furnace]

jingyu outpost top left corner

[storm garnet]

gotta respect the grind! yes, yes...

[grand vault]

can u show me the map

[empty furnace]

let me log in ya

[dull night]

Here’s it without sound

[cinder cloak]

screw them fertilizers man, I just use the dmg buff food once for trimmed medals and I'm done with them for now lol, and I have a surplus of them by now

[grand vault]

I put ziplines so I can lazy glide to the turds

[storm garnet]

no music, not the same

[obsidian lichen]

so is my wuling report supposed to also have my v4 favorited products or is my shit just bugged
if i try to unfavorite it it gets rid of it on my v4 report

[dull night]

Oh you wanna hear it again 🤣🤣🤣

[cinder cloak]

yeah it's weird right now because the favorite list is shared between two regions

[grand vault]

I mean all turd spots got ziplines from the teleport spot to the very place

[cinder cloak]

send feedback on the survey form to separate it

[storm garnet]

favorites are shared, but most wuling exclusive things won't show on valley 4

[grand vault]

gliding down to shits are real

[empty furnace]

where the beast marker is. top left of the outpost itself

[cinder cloak]

since both regions are using their own depots and ore yields, I'm still wondering why they made the item report list shared between regions

[grand vault]

they can be patted !?

[empty furnace]

theres 2 that can ya at least at lvl 2 outpost

[storm garnet]

i'll be honest, i never use food buffs in any game

[sudden basin]

yall got any ideas on how I can condense this further witboht any output loss? this is the smallest I got without losing any input/output

[storm garnet]

sometimes to do meme things like less % stamina used so i can reach some place gliding or something

[grand vault]

yay +2 shits

[cinder cloak]

just used it for trimmed medal

[empty furnace]

unite!

[cinder cloak]

kinda sucks they don't show you the actual clear time once getting it

I wanted to know if I had spare time and if I even needed the dmg buff lol

[storm garnet]

you are using too many belts, most of the time 1 is enough

[cinder cloak]

but it looks cool

[storm garnet]

if you get rid of the extra, you can move many facilities

[grand vault]

I need more Ginseng!!

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[cinder cloak]

what do you even need 28 of those for lol

[storm garnet]

getting 2 belts can be okish to have to help with clogging tbh

[grand vault]

spares food in case of medal failures

[sudden basin]

I am guilty of using every factory slot because I like the orange

[storm garnet]

i haven't even checked medals

[sudden basin]

orange scratches my brain funny

[empty furnace]

my problem is i dont wanna go farm meat

[storm garnet]

i just put on some pretty ones i got randomly and that's it, i don't even know where i got them

[sudden basin]

that could be the originium

[cinder cloak]

man this channel made me re-optimize my valley 4 that I forgot to do my trimmed marble attempt

[grand vault]

I failed her pale image 15 times, now take that 15 x 4 food

means I used 60 of it

[storm garnet]

correction: haven't checked... yet, i know i'll get there

[cinder cloak]

I just get them meat from essence farming in power plateau

[cinder cloak]

oh you actually give the food buff to all 4 party members? lol

[dull night]

I wish

[empty furnace]

ya i havent started mass essence farming yet, i needed tcred and operator exp cuz im an idiot who tried to make a second team already

[cinder cloak]

I just slap it on Laev or Last Rite depends on which team I'm rocking for the trimmed attempt

[storm garnet]

wait, food buffs are not party wide?

fuck

[cinder cloak]

there are some that applies to the team, like "n% energy to entire party"

but it seems like all the dmg buffs are individual consumption, not party

[earnest steeple]

Your griding units are too far up. you can move the sandleaf to be in between the ferrium/orignium and you can compress your lines vertically. you can also improve your packaging section, but honestly, there isn't that much point in reducing space, since there isn't really an issue of space, especially in V4.

[empty furnace]

whats the food that gives ult gain efficiency?

[cinder cloak]

don't think I've seen one

[earnest steeple]

Perplexing Medication

[cinder cloak]

there is one that regains 20% energy to equipped operator when energy goes below 50%

[empty furnace]

is this the only one

[empty furnace]

gotcha

[cinder cloak]

oh damn there is one

[earnest steeple]

There's also the tactical that gives ultimate energy, which you can use instead of the healing items

[cinder cloak]

actually useful for supports for trimmed runs

[grand vault]

when u can farm it, it means they're unlimited and there's nothing to be scares of unless u are lazy

[empty furnace]

so the bottleneck is umbraline

and thats not eco farmable

rough

[earnest steeple]

umbraline is eco farmable, you get 1 or 3 per plot, 2 average

[empty furnace]

oh really?

time to set up my valley farm then

too bad no sprinklers

[earnest steeple]

plant citrome, you get 10 citrome + umbraline

[empty furnace]

ohhh ok

[earnest steeple]

also, takes 1hr to grow

[empty furnace]

ty for info

[storm garnet]

public service announcement: i hate this bridge

[empty furnace]

it hates you back probably

[storm garnet]

all that just for moving the machine 1 tile up

[cinder cloak]

stack that with this on your supports that needs energy lol

[empty furnace]

oh tight

[empty furnace]

pogras ulti always up

[dull night]

Bounty! Whoever can remind me where the fuck this limiter is gets 10 seconds of a song

[empty furnace]

wasnt it connected to top forge between crucible and forge?

[white verge]

This one also ult gain

[empty furnace]

two monster farm only items, ew

[earnest steeple]

yeah, but 21% is less than 24%

[cinder cloak]

guys I think I'm farming the wrong ginseng

[white verge]

The treatment bonus is no joke tho, premium food

[empty furnace]

how the eff do i make seed plots again?

[cinder cloak]

take plant to seeding unit, craft with seeding unit + carbon

[empty furnace]

ty

[storm garnet]

damn, look at that 1 tileset i saved, i can fit a whole lot of nothing there

[dull night]

Yes but do you see it? I’ve had a few and I’m struggling to find it

[cinder cloak]

at least you can fit another depot loader/unloader on the other corner lol

[dense mortar]

omg thank you so much!

[empty furnace]

was it this?

[cinder cloak]

what's going on?

[storm garnet]

chaotic evil route:

[dull night]

Beware! Everyone here will be confused by it

[storm garnet]

wait, that's an unloader on the left lol

[cinder cloak]

no looks like a splitter

[dull night]

Nothin is happening here and we figured out it’s because of my limiter, but I had a few and can’t find where it is lmao

[storm garnet]

fixed, now it's even more chaotic

[cinder cloak]

no your output pipe is clogged, can you screenshot where the exit pipe leads to?

[dull night]

I know it’s at one because I found it

I just can’t find it again

[storm garnet]

if you see an icon of anything above a belt or pipe, that's a control port

[cinder cloak]

here's your control port

[dull night]

Please keep response to the thing in question as the rest of factory works now I’ve stopped gear

[empty furnace]

did i do something wrong or can i only fit 16 crops in the valley ecofarm?

[dull night]

Oh thanks lol

W avaki

[storm garnet]

i thought you fixed that already lol

[cinder cloak]

I don't even bother with the valley ecofarm lol, I love my wuling sprinklers

[empty furnace]

i want a good stash of umbraline, then ill forget about it

[storm garnet]

i keep forgetting about it. tbh, not really needed

[dull night]

You’re mistaken. We identified the issue! Then my wife wanted to speak so I forgot lol

[storm garnet]

lol

[heavy ravine]

So if I want to subtract 25 ferrium per minute for export to Wuling, is it best to just disconnect one input into either my bats or caps?

[dull night]

I do appreciate all of your help though. Thank you very much for the patience and kindness

[cinder cloak]

speaking of which, can we talk about how disappointed I am that we cannot fill up the entire plot?

[storm garnet]

you don't need to subtract anything, metatransfer is free

[dull night]

^

[empty furnace]

maybe when we get next prosperity level on outpost

[storm garnet]

unless you want to cover the 5/min

you do that manually

[dull night]

Just be like me with a factory that works in every way but in theory

[cinder cloak]

that's roughly 300/hr of Ferrium btw

[dull night]

We identified a key issue in my setup

And I’ve gone 11 days and only gained

[cinder cloak]

so if you go to sleep for 6 hours and want to maintain ferrium ore supply you're going to have to manually transfer 1800 ferrium ores lol

[storm garnet]

someone was saying before that a full depot lasts for like a week, sounds about right

[cinder cloak]

I just can't be bothered with that

[dull night]

Even my under yield/gain has gained

[dull night]

Every time I log in I submit

[heavy ravine]

oh dang, I can't believe I didn't realize that

[cinder cloak]

double wuling batteries + 100% efficiency food is enough to empty the outpost bills

[storm garnet]

it takes too much time to do. i did it a few times and meh, not worth it, i'm still positive for tickets

[dull night]

Yes that’s why optimal wuling needs 90 ferium

[empty furnace]

7 full days at 5/min is 50.4k to be exact so its a bit less than a full week

[dull night]

Because transfer covers for free

[heavy ravine]

Still puts you 5 short though right?

[storm garnet]

you don't even need 90/min, 60/min is already on the positive for tickets

[heavy ravine]

not a big deal though

[dull night]

Nope

[cinder cloak]

I think I'll just alternate it to being 100% efficient and 50% efficient when I cut down on wuling batts supplies to create more gear components

[dull night]

More to say you will never notice

[storm garnet]

he means 115/min, short from 120

[dull night]

Oh.

[heavy ravine]

yeah

[dull night]

Even then you’ll never notice

[empty furnace]

i dont notice things i should notice tho

[cinder cloak]

as long as you're stocked up on ferrium in Wuling

[heavy ravine]

should've made it 1800 per hour you can transfer

[cinder cloak]

you'll only loose 7,200 Ferriums per day

[storm garnet]

insert ex wife joke here

[dull night]

I also wish I noticed this guys ex wife

[cinder cloak]

I think I'll go for that mass protocol stash strat @storm garnet has and halt yazhen production line until it's all filled up

my entire Jingyu valley PAC is empty and I have extra space on main AIC

[dull night]

Same

[storm garnet]

make sure you have enough space to draw a dick with belts

[cinder cloak]

[dull night]

My response got auto locked omg

[storm garnet]

when putting the storages, make sure you put the belts at the same time, or you might hit the limit of facilites and won't be able to put belts

[empty furnace]

im telling ur real wife

[storm garnet]

actually, i should remove the triple belts setup i'm using and leave it at 1 belt, i could probably use a lot more storage then

[dull night]

Which one 🤣🤣

[cinder cloak]

speaking of limits, apparently we only have a limit of 96 pipes per area

[empty furnace]

the whole polyglot

[storm garnet]

oof

[dull night]

Oh dope

[cinder cloak]

sanityless behavior few days back

[obtuse light]

um dumb question but why is my output clogging if i only have a single input and 3 out?

[paper magnet]

Depot full?

[storm garnet]

i wonder if you can pipe from the main aic all the way to here. you know, for reasons....

[cinder cloak]

I think... I'll attempt that tomorrow or something

[empty furnace]

the hundreds of pics of the courtyard filled with liquid xira says yes

[storm garnet]

depot is full

[fast cliff]

pretty sure you can

[obtuse light]

oh can you only have one stack? this is my depot

[runic epoch]

As a professional 40k filler
It is possible

[storm garnet]

actually, people do it by hand. some, at least

[storm garnet]

nice to know

[cinder cloak]

might hit the 96 pipes limit though

[fast cliff]

splitter

[cinder cloak]

well the 96 pipes limit was in Jingyu, idk if the same limit applies to Wuling

[empty furnace]

well they wasted even more of their life than they needed to. so theyre either the real winners or extra losers lol

[cinder cloak]

not talking about max pipe length

[fast cliff]

oh

[cinder cloak]

talking about this @silent pine

[storm garnet]

since we know it's possible, now the problem is this...

[cinder cloak]

well pipes and pipe logistics doesn't count towards that apparently

[storm garnet]

i see myself dismantling the farm to do this shit

[cinder cloak]

just checked

[storm garnet]

but you need splitters to make sections

that counts, i think

[empty furnace]

or fluid tanks

but ya it counts

[obtuse light]

are you limited to just a single stack of a certain item in the depot?

[prisma kindle]

What are the best blueprints right now? For max profit

[storm garnet]

splitters are probably 1 protocol, and tanks are 2, so splitters are better

[empty furnace]

yes, otherwise what would be the point of the max capacity

[obtuse light]

i see i see

[empty furnace]

you can however unload a bunch of stuff into a billion protostashes as extra storage

[storm garnet]

wait, i'm trying to put splitters outside the aic and it doesn't show any protocol used

[obtuse light]

ohhhhh oki

[storm garnet]

nice

so it's just 96 pipe sections then if i use splitters

[cinder cloak]

pipe logistics

[cinder cloak]

pretty much

fuck it i'll attempt it now

[storm garnet]

i'll do it tomorrow maybe

[empty furnace]

go eat

[storm garnet]

seems like it's basically free until i get there

[storm garnet]

yea, that's why lol

i still didn't even do all dailies yet

[empty furnace]

gotta pet those 27 cows

[inland knoll]

hey chat you know how item control ports cap at 5k for no reason i figured out you can just do smth like this and it stays at full flow to get it to any number you want
they should rly just not cap it though... 5k is hardly ever useful if i need to burn some stockpiles its gonna be in the tens of thousands 😭

[storm garnet]

See this? Time to make another again

Hopefully it doesn't burn today.

[empty furnace]

do you just eat eggs and potatoes all day

[heavy ravine]

So this is how the optimal numbers work out?

[storm garnet]

That's an old photo.

BUT YEAH

actually, it also has turkey ham and cheese

[runic epoch]

Average Irish meal

[empty furnace]

nice

[storm garnet]

spanish

(don't tell other spanish people i did it like this though)

[empty furnace]

if i knew any, id tell them

[storm garnet]

nope

what are those numbers

[runic epoch]

Those look like stock bill numbers but that doesn't add up

[storm garnet]

replying again for perfect numbers

[rough breach]

what is the difference between zipline pylon vs zipline tower beside than range

[cinder cloak]

halfway there boys

[storm garnet]

wuling is 12/min batteries and 5.75 food without meta transfer

or was it with transfer, idk

[runic epoch]

The range is the selling point
Oh and zip nodes

[storm garnet]

didnt math that last one

[empty furnace]

isnt that 5.75 with metatransfer but without manual transfer

[heavy ravine]

5.75 with transfer

Sorry I have 2 different things going on here

[earnest steeple]

if you manual transfer, then that can go a lot higher

[heavy ravine]

Let me make it clearer

[storm garnet]

i guess, i dont care about that math tbh, i just know it's 6/min when at full capacity

[runic epoch]

How'd you arrive at 7.5 for V4 and WL for batteries

[storm garnet]

anything less than 12/min batteries is cause you want components... or you want to be a loser for a bit

[empty furnace]

the batteries in wuling and valley are low here. you shouldnt be using 4.5 batteries in wuling or 13.5 in valley

[rough breach]

but man i do hope i can name the zipline or see the map when i am on the zipline

[storm garnet]

so ugly it's beautiful

[heavy ravine]

This make it clearer?

[runic epoch]

What's your justification for 7.5?

[heavy ravine]

Making components too

[empty furnace]

wuling is fixed now that you made the component farm clearer, valley is still not right

[runic epoch]

For v4?

[earnest steeple]

9-1.5 = 7.5. Make 1.5 lines of batteries, and one thermal bank of batteries. That leaves you 0.5 lines of xiranite to make components.

[empty furnace]

they just showed they were making components. that wasnt clear in the original image

[earnest steeple]

ah, they've been talking about it all day.

[storm garnet]

for valley, cap c should be 24, not 18. battery doesnt make sense, it should be 18-7.5

[empty furnace]

cant be bothered to remember the dozens of people working on various things in here all day lol

[storm garnet]

i think you forgot the "18-"

or "(18-"

[cinder cloak]

@storm garnet I did it so you don't have to

[empty furnace]

how do you only have 7.5 hc batteries to sell

[storm garnet]

you don't understand, i'll do it anyways

[runic epoch]

Dedication to the meme

[storm garnet]

wait, is that water? you filled it with water?

are we peasants?

[dull night]

Anyone else scared to start making zip line routes

[cinder cloak]

oh right

sec

[storm garnet]

that's the first thing i did basically

[dull night]

I know how, I know why

[storm garnet]

still trying to make them better from time to time

[storm garnet]

careful, just 1 drop of water will clog everything

[empty furnace]

whats there to even fear. you cant waste them, you cant mess anything up by placing them places

[storm garnet]

since liquids cant mix

[heavy ravine]

I removed some stuff

Was not correct

[storm garnet]

another wrong reply, that was for wolfe for the zipline thing

[dull night]

I’m dyspraxic, my mental coordination is questionable unless I have time to plainly lay things out

I’m not done writing my notes on it yet

When I finish my notes I’ll do my zip lines

[empty furnace]

what i meant was that even if you make mistakes and later realize the mistake, it isnt difficult to just stash them and re-place them

[storm garnet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUy-duapeG8

he has another video for the plateau

[hollow sentinel]

My Wuling Zipline

[dull night]

Again I’m dyspraxic, and a big part of it is mental coordination so misplaced pylons will confuse me

I’m very cautious

[storm garnet]

in the future, i'll copy his route for the city part, seems better than what i have, going around the east

[dull night]

Mistakes = I spend 30 mins figuring out where I left off

[cinder cloak]

Xiranite baby

[hollow sentinel]

Chug jug

[heavy ravine]

Interesting that the numbers make it seem like the Power Plateau should have an Area Defense right?

[dull night]

Eventually presumably

[crisp idol]

i have four more facilities i can place, what do i even make...

[storm garnet]

i still need to decide if i use xiranite or plants. xiranite looks bugged

[empty furnace]

right. and i understand wanting to avoid that as much as possible. and im not trying to disparage, just saying that even the time wasted isnt like wasted. you arent missing on potential profit taking more time figuring it out. you arent wasting materials figuring it out. just stuff like that

[dull night]

Wuling also has an open area perfectly shaped like a square with nothing in it

[heavy ravine]

Because max output right now is just above what the total would be if that area had the extra 20% buff?

[dull night]

Please don’t take my comments to mean I am not trying. I’ve spent hours here today asking questions and learning because I’d rather learn than be told

[cinder cloak]

anyways that's enuff memes

I'm out

[empty furnace]

im not even saying that lol. you asked if anyone feared starting the process, i was just trying to figure out what scared you about it

[west lion]

(I haven't started wuling) is there something to do with all this excess sandleaf powder I am making

[dull night]

My bad ❤️ for me it’s the initial complexity in deciding between efficiency and necessity

[heavy ravine]

How do people take the super zoomed out screenshots of their factories btw?

[runic epoch]

deliveries

[runic epoch]

There's a cliff for v4

[heavy ravine]

Like the top down ones

[dull night]

For example, I’m max efficiency but I don’t really know how to produce xyranite liquid

[empty furnace]

in video games im all about reach the goal and forget efficiency until its needed lol. youd be surprised how little game devs want you to be hyper-efficient

[storm garnet]

990/min should be enough, a bit extra can be nice for depot delivery

[runic epoch]

Top down view mode
Enter batch select to clear up the UI

[storm garnet]

this is assuming fully built base

[dull night]

Yeah I get that, for me, this is a new game and new model and I like to know why I am doing what I’m doing. In this game I kinda gotta do it before I know how but I want to learn for future reference so I can make informed choices

Any question I ask here is asked with the intention of never having to ask it again. I don’t want easy route, I want explanations

[heavy ravine]

Are people just stitching images for the whole factory screenshots though?

[empty furnace]

almost definitely

[storm garnet]

ok, alt f4 pressed cause i wouldnt go cook otherwise

time to watch some youtu-

[dull night]

And worth mentioning I don’t want it dumbed down or to be spoken to like I’m dumb

Speak plainly

I’ll understand

[empty furnace]

what if im dumb and can only use dumb words

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-me-think-why-waste-time-trick-few-word-gif-5099719

[storm garnet]

if you select everything and press move, camera goes back further to show everything

[dull night]

Then me too, man of the people

[storm garnet]

you get everything blue though

wait, you can just barely select things on the corners

[dull night]

I’m in the sweet spot of being able to explain everything below me perfectly but needing help with other things I don’t know yet

First gacha, first factory game, I’m doing okay considering but I’m very thankful for all the help

[storm garnet]

everything is fine as long as you don't use oroberyl in the standard banner

[empty furnace]

....why did my citrome plots timers reset? i didnt harvest...i didnt regerminate...i didnt rewater...i dont have citrome...WUT?

[dull night]

I’m not dumb lol

[storm garnet]

good

[dull night]

I’ve got 2 6 stars p1 and all 5 stars p5 and only got battle pass, I think I’m cooking for now

[storm garnet]

i saw some people do it, just saying. for some reason i'm seeing a lot of people new to gacha with endfield

[strange garnet]

guys what should i build in my wuling sub-pac?

[storm garnet]

storage

[empty furnace]

im brand new and while i didnt use oroberyls on standard, its only because i didnt like any of the 6 stars in the standard banner. now i know i lucked out LOL

[dull night]

New to gacha is a lie, I play destiny rising but it’s different

[strange garnet]

is there a blueprint for it?

[storm garnet]

control c

btw, try 1 belt instead of 3, i think it should allow you more storage. i will try that myself later

[strange garnet]

this look terrifying in a good way

[storm garnet]

the output from the pac should be more than coming back in, if you are ever connecting it back

[dull night]

I sent the guy my valley 4 lmao

[storm garnet]

but if you are doing 1 belt all the way, better don't connect it back into the pac i guess

[merry burrow]

What's this?

[storm garnet]

extra storage

[merry burrow]

Wuling content?

[storm garnet]

about 70% extra from the default 48k max

[storm garnet]

that's the wuling outpost

[merry burrow]

Ooh

[storm garnet]

the only one atm

[empty furnace]

how much fits in 1 protostash? 50*8 slots?

[storm garnet]

ye, 300 total

[dull night]

I tried to make a small pee pee joke and the automod stopped me

[storm garnet]

wait, that's 6

whatever, 300

[empty furnace]

lol so its 50*6?

[merry burrow]

I'm intentionally postponing wuling to max out valley first

[empty furnace]

k gotcha 300

[storm garnet]

yep

[dull night]

See nobody knows what’s happening in Wuling

[storm garnet]

i did the same, though try not to take too long, since most important things are in wuling

[dull night]

Okay smartasses can you help me please

[merry burrow]

Aye

[empty furnace]

only need to fit 160 proto stashes to get double max storage on 1 item

[dull night]

I need help

[storm garnet]

i have 111 if i recall correctly

[dull night]

How da fuq can I rewire this to get liquid xiranite?

[merry burrow]

Btw guys suggest me something to produce here. I think I already got a production line for everything except tier 2 batteries

[empty furnace]

certainly you have space in the core to get the rest in there lol\

[storm garnet]

i guess

[empty furnace]

MOAR BATTERIES

[storm garnet]

but let's leave that as the last last thing

i haven't even optimized wuling battery energy

i'm even using hc batteries on wuling

[dull night]

Every morning I have 20k+ 😭

[empty furnace]

i just put two lines going out of 1 packaging unit, both split between 1 of 2 thermal units and a protostash

it makes it so my power dips to 87% reserve then go back up to 100% for like 5 seconds

[celest obsidian]

Is there a way to make it so the last 2 dont run out of fuel? Cause i need to put down even more but im running into problems with just 5 of them

[placid cobalt]

maybe go make a battery

[celest obsidian]

I need them to trade for bills

[storm garnet]

1 originium belt can only feed 4 thermal banks

[placid cobalt]

without power u cant get money

[dull night]

Do you want to learn how to do it yourself or do you want fast answer

[storm garnet]

that merger does nothing, you can only get 30/min on a belt

[celest obsidian]

Fast answer cause i want to go to sleep soon pls

[merry burrow]

Ah someone tell me what should I start producing here

[storm garnet]

aka 1 item every 2 seconds

[rocky folio]

Maybe split ur inputs evenly instead of taking half of halves as you go down

[dull night]

https://youtu.be/uWPBIzjaFAM?si=Du1qxT3CbprUsIRQ

[runic epoch]

Leave it if you're hitting 18/18
You could maybe add in a med c line if you want to

[celest obsidian]

My depots arent fully expanded yet

[quartz oriole]

Hate that wuling is so limited right now. Is 6 syringe and 12 batts still the most optimal?

[dull night]

Focus on that for a day or two and then do this

[celest obsidian]

Alr, thanks

[dull night]

Then you will never worry again

[merry burrow]

18/18? The 18 Cap A?

[storm garnet]

cap a hc battery

[merry burrow]

I'm at 6 on both cap and bat :(

[storm garnet]

time to triple everything

[empty furnace]

then you have 2 answers?

[merry burrow]

Hmm

I still have 2 sub bases left

[quartz oriole]

My outposts are doing 6 cap a each. Haven't set up the c lines yet

[storm garnet]

4:31 am, still not cooking. ok, now going for real, bye for now, not replying

[merry burrow]

One sub base makes 6/M. Maybe I'll reach 12/M cap and 18/M battery and call it a perfect base lol

[empty furnace]

whatever floats your boat. nothing in this game really forces you to minmax anything, so long as you arent a medal chaser

[winged cedar]

Just realised how op crushed powder of willing plants are and you can add some mass produced items and they become even better ig I’ll be farming from tmr on

[merry burrow]

Is there a medal for reaching 18?

[quartz oriole]

I turned off my gold gear components in wuling. I have just over 18k. Don't think I'll need more until they expand wuling

[empty furnace]

no, but the extra money goes towards mats for minmaxing your operators which helps you get the speedrun boss medals

[merry burrow]

Oh

Thanks

[winged cedar]

Yeah until we have enough bills to actually mass artifice … I don’t see how anyone will need more

And we need more area for more ore for more outposts for more bills

[empty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[merry burrow]

Btw I'm producing cap Bs, shall I remove those 2 production lines and put a cap A plant? I can reach 18/18 that way

[quartz oriole]

The way the devs are making all the QoL improvements I wouldn't be surprised if essence and artificing see some changes down the road

[merry burrow]

Alright time to take a break

[quartz oriole]

I hate that my outpost in wuling is empty

[winged cedar]

Yeah … no clue but for now we are kinda stuck which is alright lol everyone who’s at this point played like at the very very least 30-40h a week 😭😭 it’s our fault for being addicts

[winged cedar]

Mine is full … of turned off things

[jovial breach]

5 hours a day yeah

[quartz oriole]

Well I've been snowed in for 2 weeks right after the launch of the game so it was fate. I was well into wuling by the end of the first week lol

[winged cedar]

I have a solid 220h

I need help

[quartz oriole]

We all do

[winged cedar]

Just the time it takes to run ziplines across this regions 💀

[quartz oriole]

I also didn't spend days rerolling

[winged cedar]

I never try rerolling

[jovial breach]

Took me 3 full days to complete finding 100% of the chests, 1 day for valley and 2 days for wuling 💀

[winged cedar]

Sounds about right

[jovial breach]

I think i got like 10k-15k oroberyl from that

[quartz oriole]

I'm still working on that in wuling. That city pisses me off

[winged cedar]

Idk how I’m behind everyone even though I played more

Maybe cause my laptop is so bad that I take 1 min to load every time I teleport

[quartz oriole]

I've ran so many power lines I've thought about changing professions

Woke up the other day and told my wife I had to go to work. She was so confused

[round barn]

bruh I need 120/m xiranite self loop

[winged cedar]

Tbh I’m happy that we are all kinda finishing catching up to the game, cause if this was this level of investment every patch ain’t no way it would be sustainable

[winged cedar]

Cheating on your wife with your factory

[runic epoch]

Well this is 2 betas worth of content

[quartz oriole]

So much red

[quartz oriole]

Gotta get my bills paid

[jovial breach]

You're making component too fast

[winged cedar]

Yeah it was a lot, I don’t mind I’m just a little relieved that now we can kinda chill and do a bit everyday

[round barn]

well that's what happens when unoptimized xiranite loop and lacking mineral bed

[runic epoch]

Well the max xiranite is 60/m right now

[quartz oriole]

I'd say no more than 3/min. I had mine running 1-1.5/min for like a week before I turned it off

[winged cedar]

I’m gonna switch off that tmr I think

And probably switch stuff off in Valley IV to produce some stuff for healing

[round barn]

do you have that? 60/m in one loop?

am using 2 loops

[quartz oriole]

60/m is the max with 2 forges which is all we have right now

[round barn]

damn the same as min

[heavy ravine]

Is there an operator that gives both infra-station stock bill buffs?

[quartz oriole]

Laev or PoG

[winged cedar]

I wonder if we getting more forges or if we getting a new way to make more xiranite per min with higher quality materials or both

[quartz oriole]

Maybe 1 forge per outpost

[jovial breach]

Personally i find running at 0.75/min component is better than 1/min, it lets you have more income to buy the 60k artifice bottles

Ik income is capped by outpost but i still have like 200k to out trade

[runic epoch]

Unless they change game math we'd need more forges

[quartz oriole]

I bought the 200 12k bottles and I've maxed out Laev and LR. I don't plan to max artifice anyone else.

[winged cedar]

Couldn’t it be made with a different material for higher yield ?

[quartz oriole]

Need one more ferrium mine

[vapid dock]

0.75 is exactly whats needed to cap out the hourly bill. 1/min with some battery bank minmax shenanigans. But iirc you only need 0.3 anyway to be inlign with available stocks.

[dull night]

Bro we had half the active members here scratching their balls over my slight losses

This needs work 😭

[vapid dock]

Not including environment, elastic goods, and uber runs ig

[jovial breach]

I never get wuling jobs they dont exist

[dull night]

Eventually it doesn’t even matter tbh

[jovial breach]

[quartz oriole]

Then with the meta storage I wouldn't have to keep turning on and off my unloaders every few days

[dull night]

I’ve got like 1.2m Wuling stocks rn 😭

[vapid dock]

Show your stock redistribution

[winged cedar]

People are afraid some noob with no ziplines is gonna mess up their bills

[round barn]

lemme see your xiranite loop

[dusky gyro]

valley stock shop doesnt give anything good i swtg

[quartz oriole]

Eventually you will stay above 1 mil in wuling.

[bronze lotus]

how do you connect pylons to areas without pac?

[vapid dock]

Buy everything, then the 16 mil bike ig

[winged cedar]

Presents for the wives (also permits)

[dull night]

Run pylons manually through the connector zones

[round barn]

that's slow af

[quartz oriole]

You gotta run power lines from the previous area

[dull night]

Old video before I optimised with chat help

[dusky gyro]

permits dont do like anyhthing lol, and like they get to 100 percent pretyt fast anyways

[runic epoch]

Afaik everything loads at 30/m so that's our limiting factor

[dull night]

You can thank @vapid dock and @runic epoch for the help
I got lol

[bronze lotus]

ahh I see, I thogght they are sperate areas like HSR. thx got it.

[quartz oriole]

Your welcome

[dull night]

For areas with sub PAC to can run from sub pac but you can run from anywhere too

[round barn]

any of you got optimized version of this or bigger version of this

[winged cedar]

I mean they do, makes your chance of getting the essence from 1/1000 to 1/24 but yeah so easy to max

[quartz oriole]

They were wrong for leaving out one more ferrium mine

[winged cedar]

Ah true …

[dusky gyro]

wait what?

[jovial breach]

Use jincao for carbon

[vapid dock]

So easy to max, just need like 2000 sanity

[dusky gyro]

i thougth permits just let you do it double?

[dull night]

@round barn you called mine slow af?? Bro look at yours 😭

We both struggling don’t friendly fire

[vapid dock]

Or 4000

[winged cedar]

No lmao , they let you choose some stats that stupidly drastically affect your chances of getting the essence you need

[dusky gyro]

broi you are talking about

engraving

[winged cedar]

No

[dusky gyro]

and yheah that is like the only useful thing

[winged cedar]

Presents are useful !!

[round barn]

lemme see yours

[quartz oriole]

Still cant get Ardelia sig essence. Been trying for days.

[winged cedar]

Happy harem happy life

[vapid dock]

Pretty sure they were always talking about engraving, noone gaf about sanity perms

[dull night]

I don’t know how artificing works I just spend 3k components and brute force it lol

[vapid dock]

600k lmao

[dusky gyro]

doesnt it just triggfer like the same few dialogues...

[round barn]

sorry man, mine is too slow I know bcoz of damn shredding

[vapid dock]

You need 60mil to clean out the shop

[winged cedar]

Yeah but you want 200% trust on everyone !! Also gives a few stats and adds information to their profile

[dull night]

I wasn’t making fun of you btw lol, mine is slightly better and I’ve been here hours trying to optimise it lol

[dull night]

This shit hard

[round barn]

lemme copy yours

[dusky gyro]

what does 200 do i am at 100

[round barn]

that's a lot of clogging

[dusky gyro]

100 already unlocks all the dialogue things

[dull night]

Kyosan YouTube

[jovial breach]

That's visual clog, not real clogging

[dusky gyro]

wait no

stat things

idk about dialogue things

[dull night]

I keep seeing factory must grow, HOW 😭

[jovial breach]

Not sure if this is true but they give me way better food when over 100% trust

[marble yarrow]

I love me some unwatered forge

[quartz oriole]

Just keep plopping down flower loops. It's technically growing

[dull night]

I’ve got one main valley base doing 18/18/24 and wuling maxed out and I’ve got 3 empty AIC

[jovial breach]

Shhh no one saw that

[winged cedar]

No clue haven’t gotten there either but like it exists … so why not get there … but otherwise yeah relatively soon the bills will be mostly almost totally useless and having Valley IV produce base materials for potentially transfers to build on new areas and to make more eating items is gonna be the only thing of value it offers

[dusky gyro]

the meta transfer doeds it for free lol

[jovial breach]

But hey it's good isn't it

[dusky gyro]

IM BURNT OUT

[quartz oriole]

I don't even use the AIC

[marble yarrow]

Yeah its a good arrangement otherwise

[dull night]

Same lol

[vague storm]

lore and waifu

[dull night]

Actually I’m lying. I’ve got one AIC In v4 spamming origocrusts so I can manually transfer to ease components in Wuling

Just depends on when I click on/off

[quartz oriole]

Next update we will be able to zoom all the way out in top down mode, thank god

[vague storm]

Appreciation post for wuling's AIC music

[marble yarrow]

Guys have you seen the greatest blueprint of Talos II

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1470705658709147699/SplitterConverger.mp4?ex=698c44e1&is=698af361&hm=bed347390bb553b36e47359fc6f53bf140605a8ad845026704aadd36b8d5e086&

[vague storm]

It goes so hard

[dull night]

Mute gang

[vague storm]

:(

B-but the synthwave

[dull night]

Only so many times wulfgard can tell me his balls are itchy

[vague storm]

That's on you for choosing to use a laev team

[dull night]

“Thanks for making me levl 90 for no reason btw my tummy hurt” shut up wulf

[quartz oriole]

Wonder if we will ever have to defend our base? Kinda like how the outposts do. But have it that our bases can be attacked even if we are offline so we have to set up defenses

[winged cedar]

Would be cool

[quartz oriole]

I thought I was the only one

[winged cedar]

But also crazy heavy for servers and probably would make the game even harder to run

[dull night]

Lmao

[dull night]

For a game that’s based on a TD game the tower defence mode is the worst playing part of Endfield lol

[quartz oriole]

True

[dull night]

So clunky

[open kestrel]

Anyone help please. Why did the yield became suddenly so low? Does this mean there's a problem in a rig somewhere?

[dull night]

Check your rigs and see if they’re all connected then check what you’re making and if it exceeds the maximum

[winged cedar]

Check the map for red links

[open kestrel]

aight

[dull night]

Post your map here if you need help

[open kestrel]

didn't find red link. I have to check using the website and check each place of amythyst

There are only four places that produces amythyst lol

[obsidian lichen]

is there a sustainable fac set up that utilizes only the sub pac areas for v4

[runic epoch]

Perhaps it's a max depot + not 100% uptime problem

[open kestrel]

oh yeah

[shrewd knoll]

just dont worry about it until the actual stock goes down, it's using what it stored from the drills containers of 50 each

[open kestrel]

I jus planted Citrome C

cuz i wanted to use Amythyst

[meager panther]

Will people be able to use this blueprint if they don't have this last depot unlocked?

[open kestrel]

yes

[marble yarrow]

that 1 square of unloader overhang is allowed even without the bus. can even go outside of aic area

[ancient zinc]

Pretty sure ur doing those 1:30 seconds rodhan runs?

[keen tendon]

Got this visual bug

[sinful osprey]

Orginium to steel parts to make orginium cubes

[keen tendon]

But thats a shredding unit

[spice temple]

im level 20 what is my farm supposed tk look like

[dull night]

Not yet, I only just realised I could use food

I was like 29 seconds off without food

I think I can do it maybe

Do I get anything for it?

[spice temple]

[marble yarrow]

cant believe a "safe" setup like this clogs for no reason while offline.

my depot has:
47k xiranite
47k originium
22k sandleaf plant

[runic epoch]

Gotta love offline calculation

[dull night]

It doesn’t clog in the way you think

It’s a special third way

[runic epoch]

My glorious 1% drops from offline calc

[marble yarrow]

the product isnt even capped

[crimson inlet]

genuine question, what's the difference between placing thermal banks directly at the production line compared to thermal banks placed in the PAC?

[shrewd knoll]

the ability to control them

you burn everything in one scenario, you bank and then burn them in the other

[runic epoch]

I have had ones with banks strapped to production lines fail on me from offline calculations before

[dull night]

Remember this

And how we said my xiranite was depleting over time

[crimson inlet]

them batteries eat with sudden intention to eat more

[dull night]

Just checked and it’s still vibing

What da hell is happening

[crimson inlet]

I was wondering on how to reduce the sudden spike of battery consumption

[dull night]

Make more

[marble yarrow]

what sudden spike

[crimson inlet]

I make like, 3 HC bats

[dull night]

Make factory go brr

[crimson inlet]

for 10 mins, it makes like a mountain shape in the AIC report

[marble yarrow]

oop

[crimson inlet]

but it goes flat when it goes past that

[dull night]

This is good and not bad

[crimson inlet]

it goes from intended consumption to reduced consumption

[dull night]

18/6 is ideal

[marble yarrow]

dont worry about it. it affects nothing

[crimson inlet]

it probably gives me more items to sell, yeah?

[dull night]

^ as long as your power isn’t stalling you’re good bro