aic-factory

[cyan forge]

Then fix a robot or sth

Iirc

Open the door

[unreal marsh]

ill try now

[cyan forge]

Then u'll unlock it

[crisp wave]

you need to do a whole crane sidequest to unlock the whole area

[cyan forge]

I forgot if it's behind a quest or not

[cyan forge]

U can ask in #help , maybe they know better than me

[cyan forge]

Mm yeah that's a sidequest?

[crisp wave]

btw, anyone else despises the fact that you use X to stash items, in normal mode, X for bulk in 2d mode, and you use F to stash when you pick up a building in 2d mode

feels very incosistent imo

[crisp wave]

i think yeah
can't confirm tho because i am done with that area for a good minute

[scenic kettle]

Wrong place to post it

[crisp wave]

what the hell was that

[cyan forge]

I had my friend do that for me cos am too lazy

So i don't remember if it was a quest or just exploration

[scenic kettle]

#help helping ppl w happiness

[crisp wave]

i saw "happines generator" and i hoped it'll be an actual power setup not whatever that was 💔

[jovial breach]

How many hc per min can metastorage transfer?

[cyan forge]

Meh i understand what u meant, but u know u can stash w f on 3d also rite?

[scenic kettle]

30 per hour so 0.5/m?

[scenic kettle]

Me who plays on mobile

[cyan forge]

Oh, rip mobile

[jovial breach]

Wait it's that slow? How can people power wuling with only that

[tribal crescent]

why

😭

[cyan forge]

Noone runs wuling w v4 battery

[tribal crescent]

what prompt you to commit such atrocity

[fringe summit]

It's either you are missing some mines or your zone lvl isnt high enough. These are the income stats once maxed out for the 3 ores

[scenic kettle]

Fill backpack full of batteries, go to wuling pac, store all, much faster n efficient

[crisp wave]

the amethyst hurts

[tribal crescent]

why

just meta ferrium gng

[jovial breach]

Ask json lol

[cyan forge]

Ppl r actually running v4 battery on wuling?

[tribal crescent]

do batteries by hand

[cunning obsidian]

Simply because I could

[fringe summit]

Nah that's on purpose. I have a part line at cap in case I need to construct more garbage

[tribal crescent]

spoken like a true madman

[cyan forge]

Just transfer bloody ferrium from v4 to wuling man

[tribal crescent]

40000 units of xiranite liquid

[cunning obsidian]

nah not xianarite

[crisp wave]

no i mean max yield

[cunning obsidian]

it's yazen

[tribal crescent]

damn

crazy stuff

[cunning obsidian]

i considered xianarite

[cyan forge]

Do it from dijang

Empty backpack first, u can stash 1.6k bats at once

[mellow iris]

@cyan forge @runic epoch can i ask what each of you produce in your main pac and sub pacs?

[cunning obsidian]

non metra storage mode should be much faster

[cyan forge]

Ctrl click to auto load to ur backpack

[fringe summit]

I used xiranite to fill the 40k pool. It looks prettier

[cyan forge]

I have self sustaining buck A on each of my sub

My main have everything else

[tribal crescent]

ppl pissing all over wuling

love it

[cunning obsidian]

disagree i like the look of the med liquid more

[tribal crescent]

[cyan forge]

Jesus Christ

[fringe summit]

It be like that

[crisp wave]

this isnt good

[tribal crescent]

commit environmental crimes

pls do not cook again

[willow tundra]

Hey, solves Wulins xiranite shortage

[scenic comet]

you can also pull that liquid back out to make xiranite bottles for exploration

[scenic comet]

🫡

[hasty wasp]

Does anyone know any good BP to get started in wuling, need the wuling cash to start upgrading...

[crisp wave]

now to find where i messed up

[cunning obsidian]

nah i pre bottled 25k

[fringe summit]

If you really want to use xiranite for random projects you'll have to manually transport ferrium bottles from valley to wuling daily

[cyan forge]

Do main story til u get to the picture thingy. Also u should ask in #help

[scenic comet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468057352145080615 use the 100% bat blueprint, then upgrade as you go

it doesn't use depots

[cunning obsidian]

bold to assume v4 has ferrarium to part with

[fringe summit]

You basically want to use drugs to exchange for bills to free up the xiranites

[willow tundra]

I have alternate production line for bottled xiranite I can turn on

[scenic comet]

input the 75% bat once you unlock the outpost, then the syringe once you upgrade to unlock depots

[scenic comet]

you 1000% do not need to do that

[cunning obsidian]

but also why bottle it

[fringe summit]

Ye but I want to fill all holes with xiranite fluids

[cunning obsidian]

pump it straight into the pool

[scenic comet]

outpost only takes 16.7k stocks/hr, you can easily produce extra xiranite while also draining stocks

[cyan forge]

What a waste of good xiranite...

[fringe summit]

The bottle is to store to make yazhen huffers for bills

[cunning obsidian]

i'm stockpiling bats

[tribal crescent]

wait

[wicked rune]

does anyone have a bp for steel parts doesnt have to be big just something small/medium

[tribal crescent]

uh

[scenic comet]

you can stockpile bats, drain stock, and produce extra xirnate all while not manually transfering from V4

[cyan forge]

Might as well make a yt vid on that tho. Am sure ppl will watch u turning wuling to a wasteland@fringe summit

[tribal crescent]

do you pump it all the way from base

[fringe summit]

Ye I know that. But I want more xiranites

[tribal crescent]

[cyan forge]

[scenic comet]

fair enough, the goo must flow

[cunning obsidian]

all the way from stockade

[tribal crescent]

he should not be in charge of endfield

[fringe summit]

I can just turn all the ferrium mines into parts and funnel bottles from valley 4

[tribal crescent]

[fringe summit]

[willow tundra]

For now I just have a close loop that cycles through yazhen jincao and xiranite periodically

[cyan forge]

Man's gonna cause global warming on endfield

[willow tundra]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/338260469859221505/1470259485242294272/image.png?ex=698c9f99&is=698b4e19&hm=9807f17d71979ced3dd0de3d8e9daba6402bbcdb3277c387d1cf3de0bc8e2243&

[scenic comet]

you need 18 syringes/min to cap out stocks without using batteries, so like... you gotta transfer 40k ferrium every 2 hours? that sounds miserable tbh

[wicked rune]

does anyone have a bp for steel parts doesnt have to be big just something small/medium

[mellow iris]

okay i maxed everything on my main pac now can i loan your blueprints?

[cyan forge]

[scenic comet]

steel parts..?bro that's 2 facilities I LIED, it's 4

[cyan forge]

Uh... I don't remember my blueprint

My friend used my acc and just planted it there

[proud crow]

whats the max originium per minute we can get in valleyIV ?
wanna see if i have to reduce my originium usage or just chase news mines

same for amethyst pls

[fringe summit]

I mean you can reach equilibrium in stock bills with 1 dedicated battery line + 1 drug line pree much. Then you use 3/4 of a line for battery power, and you'll have 1/4 a line for whatever. Usually gear will be what people use it on

[scenic comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466125655941976135/1466125656386568213/V4_OUTPUT.png?ex=698cbeeb&is=698b6d6b&hm=91035390170b71be4bf54aa84f4d1522ed34dfae3523e82464e55fd7f572b9d8&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1485&height=1160

[proud crow]

okay i have to reduce my originium usage TwT
And wtf do y'all find that much amethyst what ??

[trim star]

love how every time i go to my main pac to get around i just see this

[mellow iris]

you can mass select evyerthing copy and share ti to me?

[tribal crescent]

why does this look like a sad face

[cyan forge]

Ig u can try this #1466662291377487966 message

[storm garnet]

I made a weird blueprint for using 20/min originium as power, just for fun:

[cyan forge]

R u on asia?

[scenic comet]

at RDL11 your ore nodes start making 30/min instead of 25/min, so without adding more mining nodes you get more

[mellow iris]

no

[proud crow]

im at max

[scenic comet]

oof

[fringe summit]

Because you only get 2 lines of that

[cyan forge]

Yeah i don't think i can share blueprint since we r on dif server. But u can try that blueprint chat i sent

Am sure u'll be super red on ferium and originium tho

[storm garnet]

133.3 extra power without needing to do craft anything, which uses power too

[jovial breach]

Why the splitter belt to the right?

[wicked rune]

bro why is every scam related to mr beast i have seen this one so often lol

[storm garnet]

belts are 30/min, you need to get 10/min back into depot

[jovial breach]

Fuck i forgot splitter can split 3 again

[storm garnet]

normally, you should use those 20/min for hc batteries though

[leaden drift]

Quick maths

[jovial breach]

I always think it's half in my head

[storm garnet]

i forget that too sometimes, i used 15/min originium at first and wasted 5/min cause of it

[scenic comet]

power curve is optimal.. but annoying getting popups every 20 seconds

just for an extra 0.75/min batteries..

[jovial breach]

Why are you using that much power

[leaden drift]

This is what I did

[storm garnet]

the most optimal thing to do is to optimize energy usage, and i somehow optimized absolutely everything except that

[leaden drift]

Meh I like having excess for fun

As i make my ziplines go out of bounds

[storm garnet]

it's fine as a depot filler, but you can just all 20/min into the shredder to make a bit extra hc battery

you can make 2/3/min hc battery in exchange for 1/3/min capsule a

[leaden drift]

My hc battery is perfectly being used.

[fringe summit]

same tbh

[jovial breach]

Could just make them all go into 1 stash

[storm garnet]

using those 20/min originium

[leaden drift]

I need the extra fer

[mellow iris]

bruuuh idk what to do with my factory so i use my valley pass sub pac for hc batteries to make 4.6k energy but now what should i do? buck a citrom a? gears 😭

someone pls guide me

[fringe summit]

I still left those 20/min to rot

Never bothered

[leaden drift]

I manually send it over to wuling

[jovial breach]

You dont need to bother with that 20/min

Cant do anything meaningful

[leaden drift]

Amethyst bottles

[fringe summit]

I can already produce 132kbill/hr without the 20 originium

[leaden drift]

I use it for when I make random low tier comps

[fringe summit]

I should do it over the weekend for fun tho

The battery drops bug me

[storm garnet]

once again, this is the best. not the prettiest, but the best: #aic-factory message

[tribal crescent]

do i collect dung

[mellow iris]

no seriously what should i do in my originum sub pac nad my main pac

[tribal crescent]

for jincao farming

[leaden drift]

Overflow protection

[mellow iris]

i have maxed all my pacs now

[river edge]

Finally after hours stuffing sub base to brim, my main base is now clean

[storm garnet]

(though, also again, ignoring energy optimization)

[leaden drift]

Im probs gonna do something similar

[river edge]

Having 18-18-24 output with 3/5 area free is somewhat sastifying to me

[willow tundra]

Now fill it with pylons

[storm garnet]

but on valley 4 i'm struggling to not reach red energy with 5 banks anyways

not much to optimize

[misty grotto]

A what?

[leaden drift]

You can make excess storage for amethyst bottles now

[storm garnet]

i have a few extra buildings that are technically not needed though

[stone forge]

is yazhen or jinqao priority flower in wuling

[storm garnet]

also, 1 essence farm place filled with turrets is turned on

[leaden drift]

I use jin from my manual farms

[tribal crescent]

jincao

[leaden drift]

Fluffy jin

[tribal crescent]

get your fluffed jicao

peak healing

however you must farm

and possibly get cow dung

[leaden drift]

Welcome to the rice fields

[tribal crescent]

so weigh the effort

[storm garnet]

nah, farm ginseng

[tribal crescent]

why can't i automate farming

[storm garnet]

though, ugh, farming

[tribal crescent]

shu did not make the rice fields so people can suffer

[storm garnet]

i barely bother with farming, and don't bother at all with fertilizer

[leaden drift]

https://tenor.com/view/shu-arknights-shu-takdes-drtaskdesk-arknights-ricefield-gif-5289545259839877513

[jovial breach]

Shu update, automate farming and fertilizing

[leaden drift]

I mean you dont need the extra healing

But having it is nice

[jovial breach]

Watching your hp bar go from 1 to 100

[storm garnet]

healing is kinda meh, just an extra. if you really need healing you need a character heal anyways

[jovial breach]

Is satisfying

[leaden drift]

Who needs healing just dodge

[storm garnet]

might as well use the food for reviving

[tribal crescent]

maybe we'll use food for buffs

one day

if we bother

pls HG

[storm garnet]

i only have 1 character that can revive though, healing food is still nice

[steel narwhal]

didn't expect the game to render my PAIC this far

[tribal crescent]

he used the trick

@ mod pls ban

[mellow iris]

guys sub pac valley pass is making energy HC batteries and then uses them , sub pac originum makes only buck capsules 6 min

what should i do in my main pac

[tribal crescent]

[mellow iris]

i got a little space for something teeny weeny on both sub pacs

[ancient zinc]

Get down young man..

[storm garnet]

oh, it didn't occur to me to look for the main pac while there

[steel narwhal]

idk how to get here, i just use the zipline of my jp friend

[tribal crescent]

[storm garnet]

i got there from a zipline the game shared to me

i don't know how to climb it

[ancient zinc]

Time to be monke mode

[mellow iris]

any ideas?

[steel narwhal]

amethyst related.

[mellow iris]

what

[steel narwhal]

no one uses that sht in end game

[storm garnet]

both pacs in 1 picture

[mellow iris]

what should i do with my main pac its entirely useless rn and my sub pacs?

[ancient zinc]

Filled it with plant/seed loop

[near thicket]

Max xiranite is 60, right?

[steel narwhal]

holy sheit, they're both visible

[mellow iris]

but why

[mellow iris]

how did you get up there

[ancient zinc]

Since u ask lol

[storm garnet]

ye

[scenic comet]

yeah kinda sucks we have an unnecessary loading screen, when u can clip out of bounds and get to the next zone without loading

[steel narwhal]

tell that to the jap that set up the zipline

[mellow iris]

i mean something proper optimal

[steel narwhal]

wait a goddang sec... i just noticed something sick

[mellow iris]

if i can throw myself off a cliff to off myself why cant i throw litter in the water

[nocturne marsh]

Rate my rolls

[ancient zinc]

Do u have depo bus to dispense raw material?

[storm garnet]

ficsit doesn't waste

[ancient zinc]

This is AIC topic not off topic

[mellow iris]

my storage is all full

[steel narwhal]

motorcycle vehicle confirmed. there's literally a highway

[restive oyster]

the crops must grow

[storm garnet]

yea, but destroyed

[cyan forge]

Oh r u unable to run the blueprint i sent u earlier?

[steel narwhal]

we fix it 😄

sounds like a contruction job

[mellow iris]

what is that 😭 never used that area and allat looks weird to me

[ancient zinc]

Ur not getting what i meant

[near thicket]

does production slow when you're running on battery?

[nocturne marsh]

Whats even the point of these crops..

[steel narwhal]

production slow if u don't have enough supply

[storm garnet]

food

[restive oyster]

soup

[ancient zinc]

Where's the rice and ginseng??

[restive oyster]

its all ginseng

[nocturne marsh]

Oh right, my ass just uses the capsule a's

[mellow iris]

yes i made the one for valley sub pac, downloaded one blueprint for originum for buck A with both sub pacs having little space and some output areas available but my main pac is empty what do i do

[storm garnet]

it's food for buffs tbh, not healing

[steel narwhal]

ginseng not gonna be helpful on new content

[ancient zinc]

Now we're cooking

[cyan forge]

The one i sent to u is only for main pac

[steel narwhal]

food bufs /healing items aren't allowed

[storm garnet]

yea, you can't equip ginseng

[mellow iris]

also i got 4 batteries

[nocturne marsh]

Dont need em anyway

[storm garnet]

and new content can't even use combat food lol

[jagged swallow]

Why is the dead man here

[steel narwhal]

i am just glad people can't cheese anymore

[ancient zinc]

Next contents will over power previous things at wuling

[steel narwhal]

where u even get this info

[mellow iris]

oh that one im not sure because i need material for gear too tho

[cyan forge]

Nice

[cyan forge]

I see lmao

[ancient zinc]

Dude look how valley 4 food / potion effects compare to Wuling

[steel narwhal]

don't really care about food/potion

[cyan forge]

I resent the blueprint to ur dm if u wanna see it

[ancient zinc]

Even Buck A capsule is over powered by Fluffed Jincao

[steel narwhal]

i just want content that can't be cheesed

[ancient zinc]

Speed runners not in my WATCH

[steel narwhal]

not really a problem. as long as the achievement requires gearing and learning optimal rotations and not just relying of food

[near thicket]

Why not let folks use food? It's a mechanic they put in the game. If crafting food is worthless then they could've put that dev time into something else. I don't see that as 'cheesing' anything.

[steel narwhal]

they can use it all they want. I just want content that can't use it

seems pretty fair to me

[drifting jasper]

I thought my Yield would go back up to 560 once the ores started to go down but that did not happen.

What am I missing?

[haughty palm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIV89L07DXI this is probably the most interesting video i have seen discussing a factory concept for battery consumption management

currently waiting for accurate data but yeah this seems to have amped my production even though the stockade refill on stock bills is in line with my previous production so i might be producing excess batteries to do nothing with

[storm garnet]

it's not the ores, yet, since you have still plenty, it's something else

unless you split the last 30/min from existing lines

[inland knoll]

only thing i can think of is some of your mining rigs lost power connection somehow

[storm garnet]

you need to do something like this, independently of the rest of the factory

[inland knoll]

i hope they add a setting to make the power alert only happen below a certain percentage or if you fully run out

[storm garnet]

if they lost power, theorical yield would go down

[haughty palm]

ngl i don't mind the crash warning

not very ocd on that

[drifting jasper]

I checked them one by one buy they all seem to be online.

[zealous lance]

how do I unlock 2 forge of the sky?

[storm garnet]

factory talents

[zealous lance]

oh i have it unlocked thanks

[inland knoll]

i dunno then i cant think of any reason why ore yield would be lower than theoretical besides it being capped or disconnected

🤔

[drifting jasper]

Huh.

Fuck was past me thinking.

🗿

[storm garnet]

game is weird, disconnection doesn't count as existing, but powering off does

[drifting jasper]

Guess I just wasn't utilizing 5 ores for some reason.

Because in the past I thought switching off was a great idea.

Well that fixed it.

[arctic lance]

buck capsule bp pls

[storm garnet]

go to bp channel

[arctic lance]

omg it only has big ones

[storm garnet]

yea, cause the factory lines are big for them

[unreal matrix]

finally got enough bills to get more facilities upgraded to increase regional level to 11 so that I could use one of the megabase blueprint setups. Though I had to tweak it because I needed cryoston & steel parts to finally do the defenses + prepare for wuling.

[storm garnet]

i have 3 separate depot exits that i don't know what to use for...

for now, i'm using 2 for origocrust and 1 for amethyst powder, but, idk what to do when the depot gets filled with those

[silk wagon]

my pylons aren't connecting outside of the factory anymore, anyone know why?

[storm garnet]

are you sure that's a xiranite pylon

[silk wagon]

I have both

[inland knoll]

i just use any extra space to contribute to my goal of getting everything you can produce in the factory to max depot
if its just one line usually itd be like 1 or 2 days before i swap it out for the next resource

[storm garnet]

not my question

[silk wagon]

yes, there's a xiranite pylon

[inland knoll]

xiranite and electric lines are not cross compatible

for some reason

[mellow iris]

WHICH RECIPE IS BETTER

[tribal crescent]

huh

[storm garnet]

i'm doing that too, but there aren't that many things i can do anymore

[silk wagon]

yeah, but it's not connecting to Xiranite either, the network was working before, then i ran out of power, and now it's not

[tribal crescent]

ziplines placed within the AIC area

does not count towards the limit

[inland knoll]

can you show a map screenshot so its clearer?

[tribal crescent]

[storm garnet]

relays and pylons inside the aic area don't connect with the ones outside btw, only the pac does

[near thicket]

Doesn't really matter.

[storm garnet]

did you move the pac too far?

[tribal crescent]

weakness of wifi

just line it up

[silk wagon]

figured it out, the AIC wasn't within the 80 meters to connect

[storm garnet]

i recommend the top one

[inland knoll]

not rly important enough to care but id argue refining after the grinder is slightly better bc grinder is 2:1 so youd use like 3 tiles less space even though thats never gonna be a problem

[mellow iris]

WHY MIGHT THAT BE

[warm quartz]

how long after getting to wuling will i be able to actually make gold gear

[storm garnet]

cause you can make the hard part earlier, and then you only need to refine it

[tribal crescent]

uh

not long

but the output of xiranite comp is quite limited

so it will take some time to fully gear your gang

[mellow iris]

this game would be 10000x times easier if everything accepted one belt of each material

[tribal crescent]

also there's infusion

or whatever it's called

basically gear enhancement

and you need dupe gear

[inland knoll]

maybe like 2 hours but dont worry about it youre not missing out on anything

[tribal crescent]

so have fun

[warm quartz]

ya i just want to swap teams

to lavacake

from last rite

since everything here resists ice

😭

[storm garnet]

once you get to wuling city, it's just a few scenes and you unlock everything tbh

[inland knoll]

i like having to think about it but tbh an optional simple mode like that could be cool to get people into the factory without overwhelming them

[storm garnet]

the end of the current patch is quite early in wuling city

i wish i knew that sooner tbh, i spent too long between scenes in the city

[river edge]

Hmm what to do with the spare 20/min ori...

[storm garnet]

extra hc batteries

2/3 per minute

you sacrifice 1/3 per min of capsule a though, but it's worth it

[mellow iris]

is 6 buck A /min enough for 2 outpost or 1 to buy all bills?

[storm garnet]

the easier version is to make 2/min of lc batteries, using 30/min amethyst ore too, sacrificing 3/min citrome c

[tribal crescent]

why did i do this again

[storm garnet]

you need everything you can make to pay the outposts

[river edge]

Nah, too lazy to change prebuilt capsule line. I'll just go mine more fe by hand =))

[storm garnet]

then you can try lc battery if you want

the even lazier version is to just make 20/min origocrust

[zealous lance]

hello why can't i connect this

[misty grotto]

Anyone have a 6 depot hc farm?

[river edge]

Pipe length limit exist...

[storm garnet]

put a random pipe splitter in the middle of the pipe to allow it to be longer

[zealous lance]

ok thanks

[misty grotto]

I'm hoping there's a better version of what I created

[storm garnet]

mmm, that looks like a nice place to put a zipline, i was wondering how to get the owl and the south part connected

[steel narwhal]

wait that gate opens ?

[tribal crescent]

huh

interesting

[storm garnet]

after the story there is done ye

[tribal crescent]

so if you fall too many times

the game will automatically unstuck you

3 times

[misty grotto]

Would appreciate any advice :)

[steel narwhal]

i have done every quest and my door is still locked lmao

[storm garnet]

you can start with putting the shredders on the top 2 tiles down

[storm garnet]

idk tbh, can't remember

[tribal crescent]

i put the relay there

but since i'm right next to the edge

the relay pushed me down

but when i respawned the game put me at the relay's location

so it pushed me down again

[steel narwhal]

there was a switch there... i just didn't bother to click it after killing the mobs...

[storm garnet]

btw, i recommend putting that zipline above, since there are fungus everywhere and you have to climb up instead of down to get them

[storm garnet]

i c

[frail dawn]

I've unlocked my first Wuling AIC. Should i be transferring any specific resource from valley?

[storm garnet]

ferrium

[tribal crescent]

the pain to get it

not worth it

tbh

i had to place it by myself

[storm garnet]

though tbh, you don't need to transfer anything to wuling, it's just nice

[tribal crescent]

was not a good experience

[storm garnet]

i'll go try now myself, wish me luck

i'm using this zipline here to get to the gathering node, this is the one i want to remove

[storm garnet]

that's 1, but ok

[tribal crescent]

do you alr know the trick to get to the taro

tarp

[storm garnet]

also, you don't need that many belts going out of the grinders

nope, i'll check by myself for a bit

no spoilers lol

[misty grotto]

I can't do 2, output is blocked

[storm garnet]

true, i couldn't see well cause of the text

[tribal crescent]

then you'll know pain

kek

[crystal herald]

is this for HC?

[storm garnet]

but well, that kinde of movement is what i recommend in general, it leads to some ugly patterns, but you get a lot of extra space

also, 1:1 sandleaf powder is a waste

might as well shred it elsewhere if you want to use the depot for it

[mellow iris]

i use a entire subpac to make allat

so is it a waste?

[storm garnet]

first of all, you need to reach level 11 on regional development to be able to make everything

also, get all ore nodes with a miner

that's when you can actually start planning your factory

well, the plan is 3 lines of hc battery, 3 lines of capsule a and 4 of citrome c

[mellow iris]

i have up to just before and a little bit of power platueu

[storm garnet]

that's the basic version, but good enough

just keep playing the game until you beat the valley 4 last boss

[mellow iris]

my valley sub pac makes hc batteries and uses them for fuel around 4.6k energy, originum sub pac for capsule and now im making the empty sapces to make dust so i can make cryston gear

6 buck a per min

so much space just for it to be 6 per min 😭

this game is ridiculous

[storm garnet]

you'll end up with 18/min of both hc battery and capsule a

24/min for citrome c

[mellow iris]

how

[storm garnet]

you'll be able to once you unlock everything

[mellow iris]

how does my production magically improve with regional development level

[storm garnet]

ores nodes give more ore

[stone rivet]

Is there a benefit to doing seed-picking unit into two planters instead of into 1 planter with a loop back to the seed-picking unit?

[mellow iris]

yeah but thats it

[storm garnet]

you need 1 to loop back and another to use on whatever you want to use it

if it's wuling plants, you only need 1 planter though

[storm garnet]

more ore means more things you can make

[stone rivet]

2 belts out of 1 planter, 1 loops back to the seeder and the other goes on to whatever, er wait i show cause ive done both (ignore my whack layout)

[storm garnet]

1 planter can only make 1 belt worth of material

you can put more belts out of it, but that means your belts will be half full

[stone rivet]

ah so its slower?

[storm garnet]

yep

seeder makes 60/min, but planter makes 30/min

belts are 30/min

so ratio needs to be 1:2

wuling seeder only makes 30/min, but then the planter makes 60/min, so you can save 1 planter

btw, planter also uses 30/min in both cases

[stone rivet]

is that still true if you fill the return belt and internal for the seed picker? apologies if im not quite wrapping my head around the logistics 😄 but since the return belt would be backed up it wouldnt need a constant influx of plants right?

[storm garnet]

the loop will be always working as long as the second planter is needed to make plants for whatever else you want

[sonic summit]

you can made it like this for normal planter combo .... not in wuling though

[stone rivet]

ah that makes sense, would you say its fine to use the setup on the right if im not currently using all the output? then expand it when required?

[storm garnet]

on the first picture, as long as the refiner doesn't stop, the planter connected to it will still work, and so the loop will not stop

[storm garnet]

for the second pic, 2 belts connected to 1 planter doesn't even make sense, but sure, you can leave it be

[obsidian carbon]

anyone got an idea why my originium yield dropped from max to 460?

[stone rivet]

alrighty, understood, thanks for your help!

[teal hemlock]

finally done hc battery sandleaf sufficient setup, I suppose this ain't too bad? kinda crazy tho how it takes the ENTIRETY of an outpost just for a battery production line...

[storm garnet]

you disconnected a relay somewhere

[mellow iris]

i mean yeah sure but 6 buck a using the entirey of orgininum sub pac is that too much?

[storm garnet]

check your ore mines

[obsidian carbon]

havent touched relays ANYWHERE for the last 2 hours

and it was working fine until now

[mellow iris]

whats the max ore gen for each ore?

[surreal ridge]

Idk

[sonic summit]

there the one that use only half of space for battery though?

[storm garnet]

when all your outposts reach level 4, you won't even be able to keep up with them with just 18/min hc batteries and capsule a

well, it's technically possible, but you need to optimize things too much

but, you can just make 24/min citrome c

and it covers the difference

[teal hemlock]

yeah I suppose space can be optimized but regardless you have limited depot outlets

[obsidian carbon]

kinda lost atp

[sonic summit]

its about 18 battery 18 buck a and 24 buck c or citrome c right?

[mellow iris]

what i have one sub pac lvl 4 is that max levle? and my second level 3

[storm garnet]

560 for originium, 240 for amethyst, and 1080 for ferrium

[sonic summit]

yeah it miss just 1 depot output to make 2 battery on sub pac

[storm garnet]

level 4 is max yes

there are 3 outposts though

there is one in the plateau

[mellow iris]

weird every ore gen for valley pass, valley 4, orignium is maxed but i only get 510 originum ore 240 amethys 620 ferrium (but some ferrium ores needs maxing in lodespring and plateu and i havent mined every ore in power plateu

i might be missing one or two originum ore nodes

[storm garnet]

they fill after 73 hours if you use the proper character

citrome c fills in 55 hours if you make 24/min, so i recommend to split citrome c into 12/min and make capsule c 12/min too

[storm garnet]

as i said, you need level 11

[obsidian carbon]

okay problem resolved, rigs in valley pass showed up as powered, while they werent upon getting there

[mellow iris]

but they arent worth alot as c

[storm garnet]

worth enough to get into positive numbers

[mellow iris]

im lvl 9 but that wont make a difference every level upgrades ores in different regions

[storm garnet]

they don't ocuppy that much space compared to the other factory lines anyways

ok, dude

i don't even know what you want anymore

[simple fractal]

Let him run out of materials

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-know-idk-idk-about-that-gif-7336250873949261946

[storm garnet]

maybe he only wants to log in once a week so he doesn't care

i wish making food irl was as easy as in the game

someone pls cook something for me

[limpid shore]

Are those depot buses

[unique forge]

any way to improve the production of this?

the steel parts are just so slow

[mellow iris]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO016i1E2iaAa7oO83e. Copy it and use it in the game.

guys check out my blueprint for cryston gear its decently compact and efficient

btw you can make the powder elsewhere in tiny pockets of unused land

[teal hemlock]

you'd have to respect the input ratios, for example the final Packaging Unit requires: 10 steel parts + 15 dense ori powder to make hc battery, that means 2 to 3 ratio between steel parts and dense powder, which means 2 inputs of steel parts and 3 inputs of dense powder into the final Packaging Unit. in your current setup you are only supplying 1x steel part and 1x dense powder, hence why the final Packaging Unit is mostly asleep

[limpid shore]

Is that a depot bus

[mellow iris]

yes

you just need some power and the poweders in the buses

[limpid shore]

Damn you need that much

Thats gona be alot of compacting and optimizing

[haughty wharf]

Yes you need 3 powder inputs for max efficiency

[haughty wharf]

You need at least this much

[unique forge]

is it better to build with things from zero or with things partially

[haughty wharf]

Wdym with zero

[unique forge]

from the basic material to final product

[haughty wharf]

Yes other wise you have more depots used and more material descrapancies

[limpid shore]

I havwnt gktten this far into the game

[haughty wharf]

Don't worry green and blue batteries srnt this bad

[limpid shore]

Wait a minute

I see something

[haughty wharf]

???

[limpid shore]

LOL

Im not telling

Btw

Cant you just merge the three belts

The powder inputs

Or would it clog

[haughty wharf]

No not really it doesn't get faster if you converge the belts

It would also clog more

[limpid shore]

Aw man

I ahoulsnt habe researched

[haughty wharf]

Don't worry, there are blue prints if you ever get stuck. Yiu can use the search bar in the #1461542035617091681

[gloomy locust]

tried my best but ended in poverty

rough out here

[storm garnet]

just make a few components and then switch to 12/min batteries afterwards

[gloomy locust]

ye tru i just need to get gear done

im still on 0 gear

since tutorial

so erm xd

[storm garnet]

don't worry, you get a lot of components fast

[gloomy locust]

aight

and no rng rolls so i shoudnt have to farm em

[storm garnet]

well, semi rng, but yea

[gloomy locust]

o

i havent done any gear stuff, what can u rng ?

[storm garnet]

the extra upgrades, you might get the upgrade in 1 try or a lot

but there is pity

[gloomy locust]

oh wtf

do u keep rolling the same piece of gear or do u need new ones each time like new chestplate once u roll bad on og chest

[storm garnet]

no, you get the same gear upgraded until it's perfect

no rng on the base gear, just the upgrade part

you can guarantee a perfect gear with enough mats

[gloomy locust]

and whats the cost of the upgrade?

[storm garnet]

you use another gear and 1 item from the ticket shop

all gears cost the same to make, but you should make specific ones for specific upgrades so rng is better

[gloomy locust]

roger

so i will need alot more of these until i got minmax'd rolls since i need more gear for upgrades right?

[storm garnet]

if you are upgrading, say, intellect, on some gloves, you need any other type of glove that has intellect, and preferible gloves that have more intellect at +0 than the base gear at +0

[mellow iris]

how many grinders is needed per hc battery packager?

[storm garnet]

yea, a few thousand, since they cost 50 each

you are capped by tickets more than anything anyways

[gloomy locust]

kk

ohhhh those tickets

that i have never used till now

it all comes together

[storm garnet]

you need to buy this, plus making gear also uses 8k

man, once i'm out of hc batteries in wuling i'll probably have to start making energy optimizations for wuling batteries...

as if i didn't optimize things enough

[gloomy locust]

u will need 3 grinders per battery maker for just dense originium powder, and then u also need more for steel parts

[gloomy locust]

wdym

are u not using wuling batts yet

for power

[storm garnet]

i have enough hc, so i'm saving on wuling batteries by using them

[gloomy locust]

im using 5 per , i just looked

and i have 3 batt makers set up

[storm garnet]

i only need the energy the hc gives, so the wuling batteries would give too much and it's a waste

[gloomy locust]

fair

[storm garnet]

you only need 2 thermal banks on wuling, but that's both for hc and wuling ones

if you use wuling ones, you have a bit more room for things though

[gloomy locust]

ye i have 2 thermal banks but im doing that strat where u keep splitting one belt a lot of times to save batteries , but u also keep having to listen to "aic is under powered"

worth imo

[storm garnet]

that's what i was talking about

i optimized everything in both regions, except energy consumption

i dread that red energy

[gloomy locust]

good luck 🫡

how much purple battery + citrrom/buckcapsule A do u make ?

just wanna know if mine is close to good or not

im at 18 per each of them

[storm garnet]

the real optimal valley 4 is a bit complicated, but it's like this:
citrome a 6/min
capsule a 11.6666/min
hc battery 18.6666/min
citrome c 12/min
capsule c 12/min

[gloomy locust]

oh im pre much there i think

[storm garnet]

you can exchange citrome a and capsule a

[thorn topaz]

EFO0172UE16eU255O0Ai

[gloomy locust]

this mine rn

[storm garnet]

oops, i forgot 6/min on hc battery

[vapid granite]

What is this

[storm garnet]

you are just missing 8/min citrome c for the basic setup

[mellow iris]

so i wanted to make blue parts for defense buildings and stuff, but i noticed that my sandleaf would make more than i needed so i tripled my parts for the one shredder with sandleaf and because of that i used the excess to make batteries lmao what do yall think

another angle

[storm garnet]

but i recommend to split it with capsule c in half, or it fills too fast

[gloomy locust]

i dont really need it tho, my outposts sell out anyways, so its kinda just flex no ?

[unreal marsh]

Finally 2.0

[storm garnet]

i guess 16/min might be enough

[mellow iris]

@storm garnet may i ask what materials are neccesary to have in the game? do i still need like amethyst parts etc

[storm garnet]

you can't post infinite buildings, there is a cap per zone

[gloomy locust]

i mean this in no rude way, but when i saw that much empty space, something died inside of me

[storm garnet]

don't mind him, he doesn't care about anything, he just makes random questions

[gloomy locust]

amethst parts make ALOT of the factory buildings , other than that its kinda useless

[gloomy locust]

^_^

[mellow iris]

dont worry ill delete later once i find out what to do with my pac (valley pac used for battery making and to well energy, originum valley used for 6 buck a pr min

both sub pacs got empty space i used but very little

[mellow iris]

i know but what stuff is neccesary must have to produce like amethyst parts

[mellow iris]

my question aint random its important

[storm garnet]

i've been thinking if just ignoring many factory lines to the point you can drop the 5th thermal bank might be actually better than making extra things

[vapid granite]

So i actually put down 300 buildings in wuling?

[gloomy locust]

u just need to make sure ur selling out ur outposts and thats all that is "needed" , so bang for buch u sell purple battiers and buckcapsule A or citrom A , either of those meds pick 1

[storm garnet]

some buildings occupy 2 or more of that cap

like relays

[mellow iris]

6 PURPLE BATTERY PR MIN, 6 BUCK A PER MIN THAT ENOUGH FOR 2 OUTPOSTS?

[storm garnet]

see? he is just dumb

[gloomy locust]

u dont need to minmax , its fine, just try ur best and once u got all the AIC unlocked and region level to 11, u shud then try to get to 18 per min

[gloomy locust]

😭

[mellow iris]

OKAY

[mellow iris]

RUDE

[storm garnet]

well, you were the first to be rude by taking my time with questions and then dismissing everything i told you

[gloomy locust]

did u spread ur artificing between ur team btw or just dump as much as possible into ur carry first

(context im using LR so shes the only dps) ik physical can be spread cuz everyone brings dmg value

[storm garnet]

why do i even keep clicking "show" on his messages, i'm trying to ignore him

[gloomy locust]

oh did u block him xd

[storm garnet]

the mute/block thing from discord is shit, since it still appears on the chat, and it gives me ocd if i ignore it

[gloomy locust]

rip

anyways

thanks for the advice/help/insights

i gotta bounce

have a good one

[storm garnet]

shit, another place i need to put a zipline...

bb

i guess i'll remove the ones going to the owl just above, they are not needed

[broken summit]

where can i find good blueprint for all the maps? iam having troubles clearing the trades, iam not making enough resources

[storm garnet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681

[broken summit]

ye but there are alot, i dont know which one to pick

[storm garnet]

i guess i can remove everything in the middle on the route to the owl

[storm garnet]

just search what you need

[fervent stratus]

Umm you don't need a zipline to that... just walk (It's the destroyed pillar from Main Quest)

[storm garnet]

why walk when you can not walk

[fervent stratus]

*Look at capped protocol limit for Wuling cause I started a farm

[storm garnet]

ah, you mean you can make the photo without moving much

ok, i'll check first before i decide on how to rearrange things

[haughty wharf]

Now I just need to do wuling batts

[storm garnet]

yea, kinda close

i still want to put a zipline just there since i'll move the other one right next to the tp

[pure egret]

Should I make Explosive Factory?

I have a bunch of open space and can make endless Farm as long as I don't run out of the purple ore

[storm garnet]

i was planning to do a explosive factory once i'm done with all optimizations, though it's not really needed tbh

[small totem]

for some reason, the battery are only going through the rightmost conveyer. i even made this part again but it's still doing the same.... what is happening?

when i remove the converger, it's working perfectly fine

[storm garnet]

mergers are bugged when you put them right next to an exit

[small totem]

Oh boy

[storm garnet]

tbh, i just treat all mergers, splitters and bridges as bugged if next to an entrance or exit

i try to avoid those as much as possible, just in case

i think they are also the reason why you get many cloggings sometimes

[small totem]

bruh even this shit isn't far

[haughty wharf]

In the top image you have two belts going to the right one of them clogged becsuse its feeding into a channel that goes the opposite way, wich slows down the feed

[small totem]

But... it's not going in opposite ways

[haughty wharf]

It its ur using a splitter not a converger

[small totem]

i believe it is a Converger

unless they messed up and named it wrong

[storm garnet]

even if not bugged, yea, putting a converger there is not the way

[haughty wharf]

Yeah its probably just the flow of the belt slowing down

[small totem]

the main thing is to lower the output towards the thermal Bank

[storm garnet]

just use 2 belts separately

unless you don't have space

[static vector]

What would the best use for amathyst be? Seems to be the most scarce resource

[small totem]

i do have space, but i wanted to make it more cleaner by using them

[storm garnet]

actually, ignore this

still bugged though

[small totem]

yeah

[storm garnet]

12/min citrome c, 12/min capsule c

or just 24/min citrome c if lazy

[karmic sedge]

are you fucking kidding me right now

[storm garnet]

yea, nope

only ferrium

[karmic sedge]

i cant even right meow anymore

[real marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-arknights-endministrator-relay-tower-run-gif-13814105557037984773

So anyway i placed electricity poles around wulin

[small totem]

nice, this is working..... man it looks ugly

[storm garnet]

bad idea, protocol capacity fills fast there

[real marsh]

o7

im scuffed then

[storm garnet]

might as well use 2 belts, unless you need the tiles on the right

[small totem]

Yeah

[karmic sedge]

not wasting protocol capacity never heard of em

[small totem]

it's far better than using this ugly configuration

[storm garnet]

did someone say ugly factories?

[karmic sedge]

jesus christ man

[storm garnet]

i have to do this in 2 different places just to squeeze the factory to the max

the other place is a bit better looking though

[karmic sedge]

dont each of those logistics count toward protocol capacity

[storm garnet]

inside the main aic you have basically infinite capacity

actually, i dont think there is a limit

[haughty wharf]

This might be worse than mine

[storm garnet]

i dont want to check though, i need a lot of space for that. maybe i'll check in wuling in the future

[karmic sedge]

ive never ran into an issue with capacity actually except one of the sub aic areas

so maybe its fine to just

i swear i remember belt logistic blocks taking up a protocol capacity though

hmmm

[storm garnet]

btw, all that is to joink 1/36 of each building to make parts

[small totem]

Meanwhile my ass trying to make it as symmetric as possible

[storm garnet]

i need 1/9 total, so i had to do 1/36 of all 4 buildings on 1 capsule a line

[real marsh]

holy nice

[small totem]

reworking on other bases too now

[haughty wharf]

Idk what I was thinking with this

[storm garnet]

if i wanted to make things pretty i would have to restart from zero. i'll never do that

[real marsh]

not much?

[storm garnet]

i'll keep my spaghetti made from day 1

[small totem]

Gotta get those 90 degrees

[storm garnet]

lol

[haughty wharf]

Gotta keep it square meanwhile to the right:

[storm garnet]

a true factory aficionado knows his 90º

[small totem]

kinda done with the game, but still wanna play this game. whenever i've time, i just hop in Factory to make even more better

[storm garnet]

same tbh

[small totem]

i've achieved the efficiency, now aiming for it to look nice

[storm garnet]

i only aim for even more efficiency

though most of the time i end up moving things 1 or 2 tiles and acomplish nothing

[real marsh]

I want to grow my cute anime girls :3

[small totem]

i think 18/min in both battery and Buck capsule A is the max i can do

so idk if anything else can be done

[real marsh]

Nice

[small totem]

indeed there's some minor products i can make, and also making them

[storm garnet]

if you don't want to go full optimization, yea, 18/min of each is perfect enough

[small totem]

but the major part is done

[small totem]

I've seen those, man, i can't achieve that

[haughty wharf]

How did you get 18 mine is 17

[small totem]

i can copy paste them ofc, but what's the fun in that

[storm garnet]

you bleeding somewhere

[small totem]

^ yeah

sadly idk, i mean, we can check your factories, and we might know the reason, but that's about it

[storm garnet]

maybe a wrong belt here or there

[karmic sedge]

i hope they change how this looks because the pipe floating in looks buns

[storm garnet]

i didn't even check how filling units are before up close lol

in wuling i mean

[small totem]

wait

[haughty wharf]

Im not sure, it just makes 17

[small totem]

how many grinding units do you have?

is it 4?

if not, that's the main issue

[haughty wharf]

5

[storm garnet]

your 90º memeing might actually be the reason, since the bugs

[small totem]

canyou send the top part of the cropped factory?

[karmic sedge]

any ferrium deposits in jingyu valley?

[small totem]

oh no... not that thing again...

[haughty wharf]

But those get it to synch more aww

[storm garnet]

don't quote me though, i only know for sure about mergers on outputs

maybe inputs too

[small totem]

@haughty wharf can you send the top part of the factory?? which was cut off in the screenshot

[haughty wharf]

Sure

[teal hemlock]

tfw you engineer the most pleasant spatially optimized design but you forgot about electric pylons 🤪

[real marsh]

might just need a internal buffer in some machines

[vapid granite]

Problem, stuck at 90 batteries but it says im making more than im using- whats up with that

[storm garnet]

it doesn't show decimals, so it moves around

[small totem]

may i ask, are you making Components too there?

[storm garnet]

thermal banks use 1.5 per min

[vapid granite]

crazy

[vapid granite]

So i literally need to make 2 batteries to have production

[storm garnet]

it's 1 used every 40 seconds after all

[real marsh]

more batteries always good

[storm garnet]

you should end up with 12/min anyways

[haughty wharf]

This is the full batt these sre stackable

[storm garnet]

make 6/min first while making other things

[vapid granite]

im using one xiranite to make Xiranite components

[storm garnet]

components get done fast even with just 30/min xiranite

[real marsh]

@haughty wharf check your ore income maybe its to do with that?

[vapid granite]

I can prob do that, my sandleaf isnt really efficient atm but im a little busy

[storm garnet]

btw, you should try to use 3 belts from each sandleaf shredder

[haughty wharf]

Im using two for each for extra sandleaf

[storm garnet]

you need 6 lines of those originium cubes in total

[small totem]

Yeah, instead of having 3 of the seeding ones, just have 2, that's fine

[vapid granite]

I figure, 6 lines for 3 grinders and each with one sandleaf conveyor

[small totem]

and another thing, maybe try to NOT use logistics parts

[storm garnet]

you'll just end up using more space and energy that way

[small totem]

just remove the unnessary ones, and then try again

[haughty wharf]

Its okay I have 10k energy

[storm garnet]

i mean 6 grinders

[vapid granite]

What? How do you produce that much xirinite batteries with just 2 Forge of the skies?

[storm garnet]

why lol

[haughty wharf]

Yeah I probabky used way too many splitters

[small totem]

btw

in your AIC report, that 17/min is your current yield or theoratical yield?

[storm garnet]

you barely need above 6k if you waste energy

[small totem]

@haughty wharf

[small totem]

damn 14/min

[storm garnet]

stop using so many banks, what's the point

you need the batteries to sell them

[haughty wharf]

Moar powaaa

[subtle portal]

I remember when my factory looked simple like this. And then now it's a complete cesspool of splitters, bridges, convergers, and bare minimum fit of machineries I have ever seen

[vapid granite]

Lol believe my my Valley IV facoties are relatively a mess, i just havent touched Wuling

[storm garnet]

12/min batteries use 6 cube grinders

3 grinders per machine, 2 battery machines

6/min each machine

[haughty wharf]

Also these are probably taking up the most power

[small totem]

btw, @haughty wharf , is this the same factory for battery you're using everywhere?

[storm garnet]

? relays don't use power

[haughty wharf]

Yes

[storm garnet]

they just connect power

[haughty wharf]

Wait they don't

[small totem]

then ngl, isn't it suppose to be lower....

[vapid granite]

The cubes dont really seem like my problem, it looks like its my xirinite production

[haughty wharf]

What th is taking all my power

[storm garnet]

you can literally see you are using 3k

[small totem]

have you unlocked both forge?

[storm garnet]

just stop feeding so many thermal banks

[small totem]

i use way more power than you and i've less thermal banks than you KEKW

[storm garnet]

stash the unneeded ones

[vapid granite]

Yeah i got both, but im using one of it to make xirinite components

[haughty wharf]

[storm garnet]

that's cause you aren't making that many batteries per minute yet

[small totem]

what is second being used for?

[vapid granite]

batteries

[small totem]

oh

wait

are you using 2 belts for components?

if yes, then it might be taking too much xiranite

2 belts for Xiranite

[vapid granite]

No just one

One xirinite for batteries and the other for components

[small totem]

oh, do you have a factory where no xiranite is being pulled from depot and is being made inside the battery part of the factory?

[gloomy locust]

highkey u dont even need to use the sub AIC in wuling yet

[storm garnet]

what regional level do you have in wuling

[vapid granite]

im at max

6 right

[storm garnet]

that should be enough for 6 cube grinders

[small totem]

yes

[storm garnet]

and 1 xiranite belt is enough for 1 battery machine working at full

[vapid granite]

Well it seems like my problem is im making one battery and using one battery

[storm garnet]

which needs 3 cube grinders

[small totem]

what is your components theoretical report?? @vapid granite

[storm garnet]

actually, i haven't seen the exit of your battery machine

the component should be 3/min

[vapid granite]

Wdym? I have it exiting into a Protocol Stash

[storm garnet]

just in case, let us see

[vapid granite]

Do you mean this? Protocol stash is up top

[storm garnet]

actually, the problem is the amount of xiranite the depot is giving

[vapid granite]

Im sure its because im splitting

[storm garnet]

i think your xiranite factory is the problem

[small totem]

what's your xiranite report?

can you send us that

[storm garnet]

there is nothing wrong with the battery aside of needing 3 cube grinders

[small totem]

.........

120...

are you making those potions too?

[storm garnet]

120 is normal, the problem is the yield

it should be 60 on the blue

[vapid granite]

No im making yahzen

[small totem]

oh nvm, it doesn't take that

[storm garnet]

though, it should be 90, not 120, if you are making only 1 battery, unless you have a reactor using xiranite too

[small totem]

wait, really, mine is lower

[vapid granite]

How many battery facilities do you guys have? I have to build but one is off

[storm garnet]

poor syringe

[storm garnet]

2 in wuling

[small totem]

1

i've 1 for battery and 1 for component

[storm garnet]

once you are done with the components, you go full with 2 battery facilities

[small totem]

^ yup

[storm garnet]

also wtf, you have 25k components, stop doing them already lol

[vapid granite]

So its possible to have a positive yield in batteries while also making components?

[small totem]

but for me, i'm just stocking as much as i can

KEKW

[small totem]

only with 1-1 configuration like mine

if you wanna go 2 in battery, then no component

[vapid granite]

https://giphy.com/gifs/iQiyiOfficial-anime-spy-x-family-8v6MRmBnqgjjejfbQv

[haughty wharf]

More gear = MOAR POWAAA

[storm garnet]

i think i get it

[cinder cloak]

damn they actually ran out of wuling bills

[storm garnet]

ori, you are making xiranite bottles, right?

no, wait, the xiranite yield is still a problem

[small totem]

battery itself takes 30/min Xiranite, and the component one i made is less efficient, hence using only 30/min xiranite

[storm garnet]

let's go back to the xiranite line itself, show us

[small totem]

@vapid granite honestly, it might be your Xiranite

[vapid granite]

Check it, this is my production

[storm garnet]

i thought so

your ratios are wrong

[vapid granite]

Is it the sandleaf

[storm garnet]

nope

the carbon

[small totem]

yeah

[cinder cloak]

this is like 15/min xiranite

yield

[small totem]

you can see that carbon output is low

[cinder cloak]

your carbon is not running at 100% efficiency, and you need double carbon input on Forge of the Sky for 100% efficiency on xiranite

[vapid granite]

Ngl i always forget 1 sandleaf creates 3 dust

I havent remade these since 2 weeks ago, idk if i said this here or in the other channel

[small totem]

@vapid granite it's 2 carbon

[storm garnet]

tbh, just make the buckflower into sandleaf instead, you get the same thing

[small totem]

hence, you need 2 of them

[haughty wharf]

You can use sandleaf to make 3 carbon cubes or so ive heard

[storm garnet]

2 carbon, and 2 powder per carbon

[small totem]

Somthing like this

2 conveyer of carbon going into the forge

[storm garnet]

nah, sandleaf is the same as buckflower technically, but why use 2 different flowers when you can use 1

[cinder cloak]

here's a sample of a self sustaining production line

[vapid granite]

So that leaves me with 2 extra sandleaf powerder

wat i do with that

[storm garnet]

that's for depot delivery

[cinder cloak]

you can use jincao/yazhen for the carbon powder since its ratio is 1:2

[cinder cloak]

no, it's 3 sandleaf powder -> 2 carbon powder

[haughty wharf]

Snort it idk

[vapid granite]

Yeah I can prob figure it out too ugh im just too busy rn irl

I figure the problem was my production line, i thought it wouldnt be too much of a problem

[haughty wharf]

Ohhh i mustve misread it wrong

[vapid granite]

Ill just disable my xirinite component factory for now

[storm garnet]

you need a total of 4 sandleaf loops, and you get 2 sandleaf powder belts extra

[vapid granite]

and make 2 batteries until i get the time

[storm garnet]

don't make powder to powder, it's a waste

you can use the flowers, then shread

[cinder cloak]

I'm not using that, I'm going for Jincao/Yazhen -> Shred -> 2 carbon powders

[vapid granite]

Yeah they dont tell you that for some reason so i realized that earlier last week before i made a buckflower carbon shredder

[storm garnet]

meh, still using another type of plant

[storm garnet]

btw, this means you need to get 2 different belts out of that machine

and connect both to the grinder

[vapid granite]

I think i can figure it from here

cant wait until the weekend to stare at my wuling AIC factory until my brain clicks on a format

if all fails, give me a blueprint in NA

[storm garnet]

btw, don't use mergers, each belt should be independent

[small totem]

........ Wait a min, we can diractly make carbon powder from that....

[haughty wharf]

Don't worry I'll come up with a compact ver for this sooner or later

[vapid granite]

Yeah i only use bridges, mergers i put out at the exiting conveyors where the productions output is slow

[small totem]

Bruh this shit will make my factory even more smaller.....

[vapid granite]

Me and all my blueprints

[cinder cloak]

Jincao when shredded gives 2 powders, and 1 jincao powder gives 2 carbon powder. Only need 1 Jincao to output 60/min x 2 Dense Carbon Powder (works for Yazhen too)

[storm garnet]

mergers can bug out if put right next to a facility, so be careful

[cinder cloak]

so my Xiranite production line basically only consists of two plants

[haughty wharf]

Lmao most of mine are my custome ones or from kyostnv

[quick rain]

what a great way to transfer fluids

[vapid granite]

I made all of these myself

[storm garnet]

this is my carbon production

as you can see, you get 2 extra belts to the right

they are useless, but whatever

[haughty wharf]

Nice

[vapid granite]

I figure you could use more of the wuling space, i thought it would be for future updates

[storm garnet]

with future updates we'll need to remake everything anyways

it's like going from lc to hc batteries in valley

[small totem]

Meanwhile i need to remake my wuling base with this new found knowledge....

[storm garnet]

everything in my game is made by myself, no external blueprints

[small totem]

bloody hell if only i knew that we can directly make the powder....

[storm garnet]

though i admit that precisely that xiranite blueprint i started it with the bp the game gives you lol

then i moved and moved things

[haughty wharf]

I love taking blueprints then compacting them and limiting the depots

[cinder cloak]

you can just ditch the 4 refineries at the bottom in favor of just 2 shredders, just use jincao/yazhen and output one belt to each carbon powder refinery

[storm garnet]

the game bps are more than good enough to give an idea of things tbh

[solar tundra]

um is there a way to abandon a delivery i accepted?

[storm garnet]

that's the same thing

[cinder cloak]

it's not, I just skip making the carbon entirely

and I use 2 less facilities

[inland ruin]

running 2 lc batt setups, is a originium ore deficit normal?

[storm garnet]

many recipes in the game are just shred and refine or refine and shred, it's just about order

[haughty wharf]

But the stackabillity is so satisfying so much space

3 batts btw

[storm garnet]

carbon cubes give 2 powder per shred, but plants powder only gives 1 carbon powder when refined

you need the same number of facilities

[cinder cloak]

jincao gives 2 powders when shredded, 1 powder gives 2 carbon powder

you're using less facilities when using the Wuling plants

[storm garnet]

you know, i actually didn't even have that carbon powder recipe unlocked lol

[cinder cloak]

yeah it's not there by default

[storm garnet]

i guess i was wrong

ok, time to optimize

[cinder cloak]

that's why I'm actively trying to spread this info lmao

[cinder cloak]

what's cool about using Wuling plants is that you need 1 less planting unit too for self sustaining

[storm garnet]

ty sir

[cinder cloak]

since 1 seed gives 2 plants

[haughty wharf]

Thats the reason why I haven't messed with wuling aic yet

[storm garnet]

yea, i knew that one