aic-factory

[empty furnace]

my guy, bluntly, the issue is your blueprint sucks.

[scenic comet]

i mean.. it says in the post how much it uses

[flat quartz]

idc i just got it from somebody

[ashen acorn]

idk what to do with this part of my factory lmao

[steel narwhal]

that's the problem

[empty furnace]

well you do care tho because it isnt working

[flat quartz]

is it inclueds every area

[flat quartz]

but in video it was working tho

[frail lantern]

it's for the region you're in

[steel narwhal]

if you're gonna copy anyway at least copy the one that's actually efficient and working

[raw spindle]

@jovial oak depends on the ratio

[flat quartz]

alr

ty

[frail lantern]

you can check on the map

[flat quartz]

kk

[frail lantern]

but i think it's more affected by the stuff you put down near your base

cause for my core aic i had to remove a bunch of stuff from the map before i can place down my last part of the blue print and my protocol capcity is only 151/200

[shadow void]

How big is that bp you are placing

[frail lantern]

the entire aic lol

[worn hearth]

Can someone explain to me how to use the bus depot ?

[empty furnace]

in wuling or in general?

[weary ocean]

thanks

[steel narwhal]

wait a sec, does protocol capacity increase with level or is it constant. never really paid attention.

[scenic comet]

bruh.. you gotta simplify your base

[worn hearth]

In general

[shadow void]

That seems very inefficent

[steel narwhal]

even huge builds take 3/4 bp at best

[frail lantern]

unfortunately blueprint has size limits to them

[empty furnace]

they are extra real estate for putting depot unloaders on. you use them to unload more materials into machines/setups

[scenic comet]

the biggest problem is filling your planters correctly when it's too cluttered

[lucid python]

type

[scenic comet]

show xiranite 👀

[empty furnace]

u can already see the originium getting destroyed lol

[shadow void]

as it should be

[lucid python]

60 over 90 but from toggling on/off I have 36000 stocked

[scenic comet]

that doesnt matter, xirnaite is capped at 60/min from 2 forges, so you draining like a mofo

[ashen acorn]

is 12 buck [A]/min good enough or should i sacrifice some half-efficient battery setups for more buck ....

[scenic comet]

you got a 50% component and 2 100% bats, that's 90/min it looks like

[empty furnace]

you can fit 18/min buck a and 18/min hc batteries into valley 4.

[steel narwhal]

u can min-max and just turn off the units, when it's near 0 i guess

[jovial oak]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1470399854919553165
i was using this blueprint for power and noticed the sandleaf setup on each side has 2planter:1seeder w the output planter split to 3 grinders and 1 output going to stash (first ss). each grinder has corresponding 2 input of steel/originium for clean flow (2:1 ratio w sandleaf)

if i want to use more compact 1planer:1seeder setup (2nd ss), does this change how i should split output from shredder? if i have same flow of 2steel:1sandleaf going to a grinder, how many ways should i split output from shredder to avoid clog

[lucid python]

I have 15k gears so I hardly need but once xiranite gets high and I run out of outpost selling I turn on gear

[empty furnace]

?? a 1 planter 1 seeder setup for...sandleaf?

[steel narwhal]

full upgraded artifacts need around 10k+ component in my case

it's never enough

[ashen acorn]

can u even do 1 planter 1 seeder for sandleaf i thought that was only yazhen and jincao

[frail lantern]

there is 2?

[empty furnace]

thats my impression as well

[lucid python]

we need more sky forges and ore veins ):

[scenic comet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135 18/min buckA, 18/min batHC (using 6/min so 12 net), and 24/min buckC is going to be your soft-cap, fully draining outposts on their stocks takes less than that

[ashen acorn]

yeah ive heard as much i was just tired of fiddling around w it, but ill see what i can do later tn

[steel narwhal]

u can literally drain valley and still power wuling

[empty furnace]

took me 3 days to get it figured out, then folded corner over there started taunting me with his even more efficient setup

[scenic comet]

if you want to be a degen you can send over your extra HC batteries to wuling and then full-send all of your outputs there without using wuling bats to power anything

[steel narwhal]

not even degen. this is the optimal way

[jovial oak]

1 seeder produces 2 seeds for 1 plant so why couldnt u?
idk the math for output rate w doing this so this is why i am asking in the first place

[ashen acorn]

just already stretching my ores so thin

[scenic comet]

considering you'll reach HC bat depot cap in V4 after only a few days while also draining stocks it's worth doing at least once to kick start it

[shadow void]

if you do 18/18/24 in Valley IV and 6/12 in Wuling you'll beable to make more than outposts will buy

[flat quartz]

@frail lantern it worked thank you again

[empty furnace]

right. but a planter can only plant 1 seed at a time and for sandleaf it plants into 1 plant

[jovial oak]

is there an automated way to send the batteries to wuling? i only just finished unlocking wuling stuff

[ashen acorn]

regional transfer

[scenic comet]

it's not worth doing though, wuling only makes 16.7k/hour stocks, so you literally cannot buy enough artifice catalyst per hour to consume your gear components https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468057352145080615

[steel narwhal]

what u want to be sending isn't batteries. it's furium

[frail lantern]

we gotta beg hypergryph to buy more server spaces for the aic factory offline processing

[scenic comet]

no, people are talking about manually transferring from dijang depot swapping, it's not worth doing imo because you're gated by other factors

[jovial oak]

oo ok so it is juts manual regional transfer huh ty

[steel narwhal]

depends on build. manual transfer takes like 5min and that powers everything for 24 hours

[jovial oak]

ye so id assume that w the 1 planter flow its slower cuz only every other plant goes to the shredder, so i was wondering if that would let me split the output across fewer grinders without clogging or if its better to just build around bigger setups

[toxic patio]

is a 20x45 in valley IV hc factory 100% efficency pretty compact or no?

[frail lantern]

btw you should do manual regional transfer with a controller since you can the button to fill your backpack with ferrium in one click

[scenic comet]

sure.. but again you can't actually do anything with your excess because wuling outpost doesnt need much to fully drain

[jovial oak]

im playing on ps5 w my current setup i cant be bothered to setup on my pc

[shadow void]

is shift click a joke?

[jovial oak]

so all controller for me

[empty furnace]

with that setup, your planter is going to be clogged immediately, instantly making the whole thing inefficient

[steel narwhal]

wdym, u can't drain wuling without doing that

[frail lantern]

i deadass dont even know what shift click is

[jovial oak]

ahh ok that makes sense ty

[steel narwhal]

unless u completely dropped crafting components

[shadow void]

basically a transfer all

[jovial oak]

so in other words, its better to have the full 2 planter setup and then split across as many grinders as needed huh

[frail lantern]

ok tried shift click im not clicking 35 time instead of once with a controller lol

[empty furnace]

ya, i think the most space efficient is just doing a plant loop that generates plants, then unload plants directly into shredders that are split amongst 3 grinding units. 1 unloader/shredder for 3 grinding units

[shadow void]

. . . maybe its alt click, anyway i fill my backpack instantly one click. . .

[frail lantern]

is there this menu for pc input?

[shadow void]

also dont have to hold a button for a second to switch depots 😛

[steel narwhal]

alt left click supremacy

[shadow void]

no you just click the item after holding shift

no menu

[jovial oak]

was thinking abt this too that makes a lot of sense. basically setting up production on the side like a pseudo mining unit then treating plants like an ore huh?

[toxic patio]

is a 20x45 hc factory pretty compact for 100% efficency?

[frail lantern]

it only gives a single stack tho

[jovial oak]

does the i/o rate work such that u have 1 plant input for every plant output?

[ashen acorn]

btw is it possible to get higher than 6/min on wuling healing stuff rn??? i hit the hard ferrium cap and im barely scraping by with regional transfers (i sub jincao drink for yazhen syringe bc i prefer it personally and the production is the same)

[shadow void]

lemme get in game and remember

[steel narwhal]

doing this saves so much space

[frail lantern]

bro alt left click gives half a stack lol

[jovial oak]

ye makes perfect sense

[steel narwhal]

not if half my stock is 40k**

[empty furnace]

you can do 12/min but you have to sacrifice sellables in valley and manually transfer ferrium ore every 6 hours

[distant ibex]

How to make most money in wuling from factory?

1. Xiranite batteries from originium + syringes/drinks from ferrium, some batteries into thermal banks.
2. Xiranite batteries and save them + produce HC valley batteries for power instead of meds

[ashen acorn]

probably gonna pause xiranite component production for a bit bc im broke i cant make gear anyways

[ashen acorn]

yeah i aint doing all that.... 6 is good

[steel narwhal]

someone finally said it

[shadow void]

ctrl+shift left click

[steel narwhal]

12 wuling bats is copium

[shadow void]

shift is just one stack

[worn hearth]

How do I use them 🤔

[frail lantern]

yeah this works

was there even a tutorial for the inventory? or i just spammed skip on everything

[shadow void]

really tho just do what you thing feels faster

[steel narwhal]

bottom left.

[scenic comet]

i use a self-sustaining, no manual transfer, login each day and fully drain stocks and fully artifice all my gear

no reason to do this transfer stuff what-so-ever

[frail lantern]

[steel narwhal]

meta transfer is literally free stuf

[frail lantern]

upholding the reputation of en cant read

[scenic comet]

i dont mean metatransfer, i meant people manually shiftclicking items over to wuling

[jovial oak]

if i have a planting setup feed to protocol stash then have depot bus unload plants, do i need 1 stash input of the plant for every depot bus i have outputting it?

id imagine planter output rate ends up matching depot bus rate right?

[steel narwhal]

while i do agree on that for try-hard builds. there's a reasonable amount that's doable

[shadow void]

I for some reason get extra Ferrium in Valley IV even tho i'm at 1080/1080. So i transfer it every so often

[scenic comet]

no i mean you literally cannot use it, that's what i'm trying to say, the outpost caps at 16.7k\hr stocks, all the extra bats/syring does nothing

[steel narwhal]

i can literally drain valley and still send 4k batteries to wuling

that battery powers it for 24hours.

it's doable with max efficiency valley

[scenic comet]

right but why would you? there's no reason to do manual work here, wuling itself already provides al lthe bats/syrignes the outpost can buy WITH spare to buyout artificing and gear components

[steel narwhal]

manual work takes 5min.

and everything works for 24 hours.

[scenic comet]

but you don't need to do that o.o you can just have a self-sustaining factory in each zone

[shadow void]

nothing wrong with putting in more effort to stock up, but yeah

[cunning obsidian]

manual work is gross in a factory game

[steel narwhal]

i can literally turn off one machine and make it work on it's own

[scenic comet]

right.. manually turn it off

[cunning obsidian]

thats manual work

[steel narwhal]

turn off 1 production line = low resources met = no need for transfer

u know what, u should just copy builds instead of complaining on stuff

[shadow void]

How many is too many

Maybe i should transfer over some HC batteries

[scenic comet]

copy? i make my own https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468057352145080615 while also actually doing the math to show people what's optimal

i think that's kind of the point of this no? help people improve their factory

[steel narwhal]

right.

[stark osprey]

I finally got the Xiranite component line working

[ashen acorn]

why are you outputting plants? hook the shredder straight to the planter and put the shredded plant into the depot

but yes, if u really want to, just do 1 depot unloader/planter for Valley plants. 2 for wuling

[stark osprey]

One thing I have to say. Bless the devs for letting us have belts that can be on top of one another

[empty furnace]

because that would mean for 3 grinding units you need 2 extra unloaders when you could just use 1 unloader into a shredder for 3 grinding units

[ashen acorn]

and remember that shredding buckflower produces 2 powder/plant and shredding sandleaf produces 3/plant

[young stag]

except when you want to bridge over a bend and they don’t let you for no reason

[cunning obsidian]

because shredded plants are the one thing that have increased output compared to input

[jovial oak]

i mean ye ill prolly do this but the question is more abt making sure the numbers work so im not overdoing my output so that answers my question ty

[ashen acorn]

ohhh that makes sense. I have my AIC set up differently mb

[steel narwhal]

syringe next

[stark osprey]

You can't bridge over a bending belt?

[empty furnace]

im willing to bet you have it set up like mine, but i cant be assed to do the more efficient thing at this point lol

[ashen acorn]

sandleaf farm in core AIC with belts going directly to grinders from shredders?

[stark osprey]

I wanted to do the purple buckflower item honestly for HP next. Or is the syringe better since it can be used for money also?

[empty furnace]

nope ur more efficient than me LOL

[steel narwhal]

u need to use jincao / yahzen plant for stocks

buck flower medicine just spam it on valley for extra bills

[shadow void]

you dont really need to do both, takes more power

[ashen acorn]

i do have several sandleaf shreds going right into depot but i might reformat for better dense originium production, not sure how much it matters tho bc i hit a hard cap on originium use -_-

[steel narwhal]

jincao o/r yahzen

[empty furnace]

thats what i meant by cant be assed to fix it. theres no need to yet

[shadow void]

one reason to do both is to stock up for the future

[ashen acorn]

i just produce jincao bc i prefer using it for healing over yazhen 💀

[empty furnace]

i have both stocked up to 48k, selling just 8600 of one med a day, since thats how much you make. gotta be ready for when prosperity levels drop

[steel narwhal]

wuling gonna even be more tight cuz cheap catalyst has 200 limit

[stark osprey]

Ah

[steel narwhal]

dayuum. i might copy this. genius af

[river robin]

Why aren't there any tutorials actually explaining the fundamentals of getting a good yield? Why only blueprints?

[ashen acorn]

i love how easy it is to swap between yazhen and jincao production 💯💯💯💯💯

[glad wing]

This cool or could be better?

[empty furnace]

because most people are gonna skip the lessons, copy the blueprints then come in here with an argumentative attitude about why their BP doesnt work

[empty furnace]

agreed

[river robin]

Bruh, I'm looking for lessons. My farm is efficient but it's too big.

[willow tundra]

it’s called build as much as you can possibly sustain, no tutorial needed

[river robin]

I need some advanced tips and tricks.

[shadow void]

This is mine

[empty furnace]

ask direct questions in here about specific processes, its way better than a video

[steel narwhal]

hc battery quite concerning

[ashen acorn]

tf are you doing with all that amethyst

[steel narwhal]

ur main prio is buck A / purple bats

[glad wing]

nothin

[steel narwhal]

bombs

[ashen acorn]

💀

[river robin]

Okay, how do I connect 3 grind units to 6 originium dust and 1 sandleaf dust unit?

Like minimally.

With least transit lag and space.

[ashen acorn]

belt bridges

[grizzled osprey]

I just made everything on my own and looked at others' blueprints to see if I could do anything better. This way you actually learn

[glad wing]

where tf did u get one extra battery farm?

[ashen acorn]

btw what do u need citrome for?

[grizzled osprey]

Probably using a Pwm

[shadow void]

Selling?

[ashen acorn]

fair

[shadow void]

nothing else to use the Amethyst for

[ashen acorn]

true

[empty furnace]

so for sandleaf dust, you can have that be self-sustained with 2 planters and 1 seeding unit.

1 plant in the seed unit makes 2 seeds, make 2 lines out, 1 into each planter. 1 planter goes back into seeding unit other planter goes either into a protocol stash to be shredded later, or into a shredder directly, then into 3 grinding units, because 1 sandleaf plant makes 3 dusts.

[river robin]

Is it better to instead produce the raw components remotely and produce the desired component through depot bus outputs of those raw materials?

[glad wing]

AAAH nothing just one battery farm stoppped working

[ashen acorn]

my amethyst gets to live peacefully in the mines

[steel narwhal]

good option for extra stock earnings. (feels like a waste not to be used).

[grizzled osprey]

It's better to minimise depot bus usage

[empty furnace]

generally, if you can find a space efficient way to connect the raw plant generation to the grinding units, then thats the best option.

i didnt bother getting that efficient, i opted to just do raw plant gen, then move the processing into the main product setup

[shadow void]

I used KyoStinV's valley IV guide on youtube

[river robin]

I am using the Valley pass base for plant farms, I just can't seem to connect 3 grinders and 6 originium dust units and a sandleaf dust unit at a ratio of 2:1 per grind unit.

[steel narwhal]

probably a supply issue

[grizzled osprey]

Rather than increase length along the depot buses it's better to just increase the length of the build perpendicular to the depot bus

[ashen acorn]

this is a good point, i'm just very limited on depot input/output space lol. i have a small building material supply chain in oneof my sub-pacs because i get worried about running out of them

[river robin]

No like I physically can't seem to connect them.

[steel narwhal]

there are mining nodes that will pop up after a few days of playing

[river robin]

My inputs get overlapped.

[grizzled osprey]

sometimes starting from scratch helps

[empty furnace]

like this you mean? im doing the inefficient sandleaf powder self-sustain, rather than raw plant only

[grizzled osprey]

As long as it's only one segment

[ashen acorn]

?? i've been playing since launch, i have all my mining spots powered

[river robin]

I tried for 4 hours.

[steel narwhal]

there are new mining nodes that will appear after some time.

[grizzled osprey]

Look at someone else's blueprints for inspiration

[ashen acorn]

like with updates?

[river robin]

The problem with raw plant is 1 plant gives 3 dust and 1 ore gives 1 dust.

[empty furnace]

1 plant feeds all 3 grinding units tho,

[empty furnace]

you just put it in the middle of the whole setup

[shadow void]

Its nice to finally be capping out all the outposts stock bills

[steel narwhal]

no, but u can just check the map, it should appear if it's not powered or something

[river robin]

Yeah but then I struggle in connecting the ore dust units, especially the middle one.

[ashen acorn]

i'm not worried about ore output, just don't physically have space to put any more depot unloaders

[empty furnace]

so if you look at the pic i sent, i also didnt wanna be bothered with that spaghetti so i just processed the dust entirely elsewhere and wasted the extra 2 unloading units cuz who cares

[river robin]

I can't find a blue print that's remotely decipherable.

[steel narwhal]

there's literally yt tutorials

[river robin]

I want to put 3 HC battery units in hub base so I want to compact mine.

[grizzled osprey]

EFO0101OaI8eEIi1OE179 look at this one, isn't the best cuz it can be compressed a bit more but it works and you can fit 3 in the main PAC area easily

[willow tundra]

Back trace the production line from end product

[river robin]

The tutorials are 80% about pasting blueprints.

[grizzled osprey]

I spent 2 hrs on this one when I was figuring out how stuff works

[river robin]

Is it ASIA?

I made really compact early game production lines but these purple ones are getting complicated.

[ashen acorn]

tn i will work on migrating the shredders from ss 1 to ss 2 🫡

[grizzled osprey]

I intentionally left one sandleaf powder unused btw

[river robin]

Especially since some of the yeild come in odd ratios.

[grizzled osprey]

Yes I know, you gotta learn to let go of that gotta keep it all compact mindset

Sometimes it gets big

[river robin]

Engineering dilemma.

[steel narwhal]

looks clean

[river robin]

I still wanna be able to compact and make it look good.

[ashen acorn]

the main thing is basically just understanding ur yields/usage. once i figured that out the rest was ex

[grizzled osprey]

Wait till you get to battery edging

[river robin]

When do you do that?

[river robin]

That's simple, worst nightmare is connecting shit atp.

[vague storm]

We loving having the battery warning every 5 seconds

[grizzled osprey]

Honestly it's unnecessary but I'm just interested cuz it's complicated... You can also just skip understanding it's working and let a site someone made do the job for you

[steel narwhal]

if w/ component yes. that's reasonable amount fak i red that wrong i need some slepdge

[mellow iris]

my first mil made using my factory (heres the other months in comparison)

[river robin]

Nah, I genuinely enjoy the factory.

I wanna master it.

[frail lantern]

are the unloader output 20 material per minute right?

[ashen acorn]

ty! the rest is not

[cunning obsidian]

could be worse could be like mine

[grizzled osprey]

Alright imma drop the SKport link rq, the discord thread is a bit messy

One sec

[river robin]

You can use a shit ton of protocol stashes to clean up long chains.

[cunning obsidian]

was almost symetrical

[ashen acorn]

oh, i am using a shit ton of protocol stashes

all the depot space is being used for unloaders

[cunning obsidian]

but then i was a tile short

[river robin]

I use more protocol stashes than needed.

[grizzled osprey]

@river robin https://www.skport.com/article?id=2020187286270115990
Long ass article btw

[steel narwhal]

i wonder what a player with OCD do with factory

[vague storm]

Whoever made the PAC 9x9 is evil btw

[vital kraken]

i kinda cant get too much ferrium ore in wuling, is there anyway to get even more or?

[river robin]

Fun fact, not powering your stashes mid transit saves aton of powerdraw and works the same as storage mode.

[steel narwhal]

max efficiency + everything needs to be symetrical. what a build

[river robin]

Oh wait.

[grizzled osprey]

Metastorage increases it by a measly 25 per minute

[cunning obsidian]

organizational ocd lost to minmaxxing ocd

[frail lantern]

have you added the operator assigned calculation as well?

[shadow void]

if the base is 90, 25 is alot

[finite meadow]

finally done, can i make the new wuling stuff in valley iv?

[ashen acorn]

i ran into a steel usage issue while working on it last night and had to figure out how to squeeze in more steel production

[red epoch]

Anyone got codes for end game wuling factories ?

[grizzled osprey]

still can't fully run two bottle producers

[ashen acorn]

only the combat facilities

[vague storm]

I'm sorry

[shadow void]

Dunno what that is, but i have all those operators in there

[cunning obsidian]

we have no wuling endgame

[finite meadow]

or do i have to set it up in wuling and transfer materials between the two AICs

[young stag]

max lc wuling production is 18/m right

[frail lantern]

switching operator when filling up on cash and then switching to maximise sell value

[vital kraken]

hmm i see

[red epoch]

I meant for the current end game in wuling

[shadow void]

yes i do that

[finite meadow]

( ) its fine

[grizzled osprey]

Bad apple with relay lines when

[cunning obsidian]

try in #1461542035617091681

[river robin]

Can I have your plan?

[vague storm]

That is frightening

[frail lantern]

cool im doing some maths rn after filling out my amythst inputs with the citrime C

[river robin]

Soom.

[grizzled osprey]

[cunning obsidian]

someone posted a perfect grid last night

[river robin]

Wait fr?

Show.

[frail lantern]

man im missing yvonne to fill the infra station for both 20% on sell and earning

[grizzled osprey]

and here I still haven't placed ziplines

[river robin]

Neither me.

[shadow void]

really should switch over to HC valley batteries for Wuling to puch savings over there

[river robin]

I walk.

[frail lantern]

is that even optimal lol

[cunning obsidian]

i haven't blueprinted it but i can try?

[ashen acorn]

i gotta fix my xiranite production

[river robin]

Visually pleasing.

[grizzled osprey]

Obviously not, but looks good

[young stag]

is current max wuling battery output 18 or 12

[river robin]

I did clean some to add some 45° slopes.

[vague storm]

Think mine's closer to what most people have it as

[grizzled osprey]

Making bad apple on everything in sight isn't optimal either but that doesn't stop people

[shadow void]

12

[analog elbow]

is this good or

[ashen acorn]

12 iirc, but that's sacrificing any xiranite usage for anything else

[grizzled osprey]

Yeah pretty much the same

[ashen acorn]

also not doable with current originium ore in wuling?

not sure

i was having issues

[shadow void]

with 12 batteries and 6 Yazhen syringes you'll cap out the stock bills

[cunning obsidian]

@river robin

[grizzled osprey]

Yea you just need all three matching, it's a bonus that attack was already+3 now etch all three attributes to max

[shadow void]

Leaving you with room to do other things

[river robin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/ArknightsEndfield/comments/1qspomu/playing_badapple_on_endfield_conveyor_belts/

[analog elbow]

Aight

[grizzled osprey]

I was looking for this one, I've seen the one done using control ports

[ashen acorn]

do you have to manually move over originium for 12 batteries/min?

[shadow void]

Me, no

[river robin]

Bro took power grid literally.

[shadow void]

I occasionally move over ferrium from Valley IV, because for some reason i slowly stock it up tho i'm capped out at 1080/1080. I think it only does this when i'm logged out tho

[glossy nymph]

Cabel management.

[finite meadow]

she's trying her best

[river robin]

Indeed.

I love it.

[ashen acorn]

i have regional transfer set up for ferrium bc my usage in wuling is completely maxed for the 6 drinks/min

[grizzled osprey]

[analog elbow]

So now i don't need to engrave the essence?

Or i still need to use em?

[glossy nymph]

I'm i tripping or her eyes are purple?

[ashen acorn]

we need more mining in wuling so bad 😭

[analog elbow]

Color Disorder due to Endmin changing Gender

Do i just farm the essence and then etch it?

[grizzled osprey]

just equip this essence onto your weapon and get essences for other weapons, use useless essences for etching

[analog elbow]

Got it

Thanks. That was my first try. Glad i was lucky

[grizzled osprey]

Essences are generous enough, artificing tho

[analog elbow]

[teal hemlock]

bruuuh we need some sort of trash disposal for items discard is useless

[grizzled osprey]

We need an incinerator or smth

[analog elbow]

Can't Discarded items just disappear out of thin air?

[grizzled osprey]

They stay lying around

[analog elbow]

I might want Tang tang to pick em up

[willow tundra]

There is dispose option

[grizzled osprey]

Doesn't that just throw it on the ground

And then it proceeds to not despawn

Haunting me whenever I pass by

[analog elbow]

Ikr

[willow tundra]

No, check the icon beside sorting in the inventory

At least I remember it doesn’t just drop item on the ground

[shadow void]

And if follows you to your mailbox

[grizzled osprey]

Last I checked I'm pretty sure it just dropped stuff

I'll try again it

[dusty snow]

Anyone know what's causing my sandleaf to have 380 output instead of the actual 420?

[grizzled osprey]

no none of the useless stuff made it to my mailbox, only chest drops that I forgot to pickup

[sonic summit]

what is the optimal endgame of valley 4 item output to maximize income?

[grizzled osprey]

You might have two output belts leading out of shredders instead of 3 causing some clogging

[grizzled osprey]

18 HC 18 buck A 24 buck C

[analog elbow]

this farm forces me to min max batteries lmao

[dusty snow]

But wouldn't that affect the powder output instead of the leaf?

[shadow void]

Use batteries for that stuff

stuff 20 in each and youre set forever

[earnest steeple]

Batteries are also 20% more efficient in towers.

[analog elbow]

20 like Purple or Wuling bats

[grizzled osprey]

If powder isn't outputted than it'll stay in the shredder longer. This will cause it to slow down leaf usage which will in turn clog up leaf generators

[empty furnace]

u can put batteries directly into turrets? holy shit

[teal hemlock]

any difference between using mining rig vs mk2 for originium deposits?

[analog elbow]

Yeah i just didn't know it was more efficient

[analog elbow]

No

[shadow void]

i've got 40k Wuling, but i stuffed 20 wulings in each a couple days back

[analog elbow]

Never use blue rig for Origin/Amethyst

[grizzled osprey]

Oo

Then I'll disconnect them from my power grid

[earnest steeple]

Mk2 costs 2x power.

[analog elbow]

It consumes more power yet same speed

[dusty snow]

Sorry I'm a bit confused about the math. So are you saying there's two shredder that only uses 2 outbelts and that's causing the issue?

[shadow void]

Yeah, more power usage for no extra benefit

[analog elbow]

How long til it ran out tho

[shadow void]

Dunno, i may of used one or 2 batteries, i havent checked

[earnest steeple]

A really long time. Each battery is like 80k power and each shot is like 200.

[jovial oak]

started outlining my factory for storing and dispensing shredded plant and now im ending up w too much space in the middle away form my depot buses.. i gotta rethink this a lot lol

[teal hemlock]

guess I won't mind a little power waste here and there...

[glossy nymph]

Anyone wondering if there will be Oil in future of the game?

[shadow void]

Oh, thats not gonna be a little power.

[sonic summit]

is that all use regenerating sand leaf or we use some bus output to transport sandleaf out instead?

[empty furnace]

endfield scholar over here

[willow tundra]

Don’t make me deal with heavy oil residue in this game

[teal hemlock]

perhaps I need to feel the repercussions first...

[vague storm]

5 energy

[glossy nymph]

Lol

[empty furnace]

finally a use for the separating unit. Endfield! I need you to separate this oil from this duckling!

[grizzled osprey]

Yes, 1 sandleaf gives 3 powder, if you only have two output belts leading out of the shredders then the shredder will gain 1 powder per 2 seconds, eventually it'll hit the 50 powder holding limit, then it'll output two powder but because this brings down the powder in the machine to 48 and because sandleaf generates 3 powder the sandleaf will not get shredded for two seconds and instead only powder will be outputted and then it repeats, do you get me?

[vague storm]

Cracking and oil processing in the AIC...

[shadow void]

not enought space

[grizzled osprey]

Regen

[glossy nymph]

Anyone else think the game is good without oil?

[grizzled osprey]

Doesn't really matter, regen is optimal but you just gotta fit allat in the 4 areas you have, if you can fit it all without regen then go ahead

But regen saves space

[inland knoll]

anyone know of a way to get up here for ziplines yet or should i just start trying 5 billion random routes

[uncut jungle]

beginning wuling factory, lookin aight so far i guess

[grizzled osprey]

Time to start trying I guess

[teal hemlock]

ah thank the lord the zipline pylon has the same power draw

[analog elbow]

Delivery route?

[dusty snow]

Ahh... I see it now. Thank you!

[willow tundra]

This one is a bit tricky, if you can manage heavy attack wall clip then it’s okay, otherwise good luck jumping

[sonic summit]

space for output bus right? any optimal sandleaf regen blueprint or its depens on space?

[shadow void]

I see you have the Zipline on top of the mountain

[grizzled osprey]

@dusty snow if you don't get this then just put aside a small setup with one line sending sandleaf into a shredder and the shredder sending two belts into the depot. You'll see how it clogs up and slows down sandleaf consumption

[frail lantern]

has anyone figured out pulse width modulation with batteries?

[hallow river]

Is there supposed to be an outpost in Origin Lodespring?

[frail lantern]

noper

[sonic fiber]

Can someone help me with endgame plans for hub pac and other camps i already bought all area expansions and depot bus

[hallow river]

Then... how do I get some of the resources there? All of the ways are too small-

[grizzled osprey]

Yea, for regen just place a seed picker in the middle of two planting units and send a loop thru one planting units and the seed picker. Other planting unit connects to shredder

[sonic fiber]

For valley lV

[grizzled osprey]

I don't have the ss rn

[frail lantern]

i got some blueprint for 24 cap a and 12 hc battery that maxes out the originium and ferrium

only take one outpost and the core aic

[grizzled osprey]

You want bps or just wanna know the ideal output you should be having?

[sonic fiber]

Idk i want the best plan since i have a lot of resources so i don't change it again

[frail lantern]

idk what you mean by that

[finite meadow]

quick question, are ferrium bottles the only one we can fill with water in wuling?

[analog elbow]

You mean self sustaining?

[frail lantern]

you want the input to match output?

[sonic fiber]

Yea something like that

[sonic summit]

i want the endgame blueprint tbh

[grizzled osprey]

Technically you can bring over amethyst bottles from the valley, but with wuling resources yea only ferrium bottle

[earnest steeple]

All bottles work

[analog elbow]

I mean that's what everyone does.

[finite meadow]

👍

thanks

[hallow river]

I got a BP that is too efficient with plants-

[analog elbow]

I haven't touched my V4 idk how long

[frail lantern]

Left: EFO0136uIO031AaU0579
Right:EFO014o5OUu48a3aE71A hc battery that maxes out the originium input of 360 per minute

does 12 hc battery per minute

you can only put it in either power plateau or science park btw there is placement limit in valley pass

[grizzled osprey]

PS. Ideal numbers are 18 HC 18 buck A and 24 buck C

[sonic fiber]

Okay thank you appreciate it I'll try that

[willow tundra]

This is a pwm based on wulin bat, using 32000 unit of power per sec for base calculation

[sonic fiber]

I will also check some ytb vedios

[frail lantern]

yeah i saw this but the blueprint i copied didnt work for some reason

[grizzled osprey]

Because you have to configure it as per your requirement, did you do that?

[frail lantern]

im gonna be real im not smart enough to understand pwm lol

[analog elbow]

Depends on your usage

[grizzled osprey]

I spent a lot of brainpower to understand the working behind it

Now I know how binary works

[analog elbow]

You can't blindly min maxxing battery

[grizzled osprey]

[sonic summit]

is diffrent server works ? what server is this?

[frail lantern]

eu/na

[sonic summit]

i am asia

[frail lantern]

im gonna find a pwm crash course to watch rn lol

[grizzled osprey]

https://www.skport.com/article?id=2020187286270115990

Read this

[frail lantern]

i should have the asia/jp one

[sonic summit]

please

[willow tundra]

Just add the nodes together to the amount of power desired

[finite meadow]

is there a vid that explains this concept?

[frail lantern]

左側　EFO01E50U4ia90oeI3uIa
右側　EFO01Ue36ia8u3O207Oa8 try this

[sonic summit]

also i want too see some pict for references

[frail lantern]

holy word salad

[grizzled osprey]

I could do it rn, I'm pretty sure I understand it

[grizzled osprey]

whatchu expecting, it's complicated

[frail lantern]

[grizzled osprey]

This img itself was helpful in understanding it tho, reduced the math I had to do

[teal hemlock]

"pulse width modulation" bruh can't believe a gacha is about to get me intro engineering or smth

[analog elbow]

This is a factory anime girl game with a bit of gacha

[sonic fiber]

On pac should i focus only batteries? And let camps for plants etc

[finite meadow]

im in engineering, i thought i could escape

[analog elbow]

Uhhh what's your regional level

[sonic fiber]

9

[analog elbow]

Uhh

[sonic fiber]

Is it low

[grizzled osprey]

Even though it's it's an anime girl game 50% of my team is a panda and a hot guy

[frail lantern]

whats your orginium input

is it 360 per minute?

[spring elm]

I made a spreadsheet that keeps track of all my facilities that are powered because I got tired of trying to figure out what's using power and what isn't.

[grizzled osprey]

Yes

[analog elbow]

No he needs to be regional lvl 11

[earnest steeple]

Doesn't matter. As long as you have 3 lines of each. Buck A lines take more space. HC will fit in once upgraded sub-pac, but buck A won't.

[frail lantern]

the HC bat bp i give needs 360 to self sustain or either it's gonna be hard throttled

[sonic fiber]

Lower than that it's 233/min

[frail lantern]

oof

[grizzled osprey]

Hm? One Buck A line can fit in an outpost tho

[frail lantern]

better start rigging up these mines

[earnest steeple]

You need to upgrade the space.

[grizzled osprey]

[analog elbow]

My core makes all the Battery and 1 Citrome A production line

[grizzled osprey]

You shouldn't be looking for endgame factory yet bro

[analog elbow]

2 more separately in Sub

1 Citrome C on power plat

[sonic fiber]

I'm just sick of it

[frail lantern]

i think this is the maximum output rn

[grizzled osprey]

what are your depot node and stock redistribution levels btw, all maxed?

[frail lantern]

i dont think i have any more space or inputs to generate more stuff

guess that's it for me

[analog elbow]

Can't be with that level

[grizzled osprey]

Ik I just wanna hear from them so I can tell them they progressed in the wrong direction

Factory max upgrades come after max depot nodes

@sonic fiber btw go to the depot node menu you can accept commissions from other players three times a day, free stock bills, use them to upgrade depot nodes

chat died

[blissful palm]

which guide did you use/do you have a guide/can you make a guide

[frail lantern]

i followed a core aic blueprint that did 24 per min cap a and hc bat bp outpost that does 12 per min

and use the rest of the outpost to make citrime C and buck c

[blissful palm]

any chance you can point me to the sauce

[frail lantern]

Left: EFO0136uIO031AaU0579
Right:EFO014o5OUu48a3aE71A for power plateau or science park HC bat 12 per minute

[cedar phoenix]

as you can see here, what you have now isn't sustainable, you are in deficit of Ferrium and Amethyst

[arctic lance]

please someone give me your machine 😭

[frail lantern]

EFO014o5OIiaO637iE71A
EFO01O3E28792aI3I9oe4
EFO01u1Io64ioU0a9AoOU
EFO01U4Ai26Ii3OE97Oa8
EFO014o5OIiaO6375E71A
EFO01Iao815e8A97u5o08
EFO0158OEoe0E1uaieIoe
EFO012I45uA15985EeIOo
EFO010U967326Oi18E179 buck cap a main aic

[grizzled osprey]

just remember he's overstretching amethyst usage rn to lower depot storage amount rn, you're gonna want 24/min buck C or citrine C, not more than that

[frail lantern]

i know im trying to use up the depot stuff rn

[arctic lance]

oh dear

[blissful palm]

i see, so what's the community approved optimal build?

[frail lantern]

i'll have to remove 4 loader for the amethyst later on

[blissful palm]

my resource mines and techs in both maps are maxed, it's just waiting to be built

[cedar phoenix]

well, then it's the maximum as long as you still have those resources in your depot
but it wont be for long

[grizzled osprey]

18 HC 18 buck A 24 buck C

[blissful palm]

thx lemme check the blueprints page

[arctic lance]

loest plss give me this system blueprint

[grizzled osprey]

people really living on trash blueprints

[arctic lance]

this also

[frail lantern]

the bp i posted on top with 9 parts

scroll up a bit

[arctic lance]

this one?

[frail lantern]

yeah

[arctic lance]

but thers so many which one

[cedar phoenix]

personnaly I prefer only 18 Citrome C
Because it uses less power and so I don't need to spend more HC batteries (only need 1 extra LC Battery thermal bank)

[graceful oyster]

Hey all! Quick question, I currently have my wuling battery farm running alongside a xirinite farm and, while every item shows up as either generating a surplus or using as much as it makes, I'll log in after a few hours and it's shut down with 50+ batteries in storage. I haven't been able to figure out why, but I'm wondering if it could be that I have The Hub, Wuling City, and Valley Pass going at once and I read somewhere that more than 2 is a problem. Could that be it, or is my factory just in need of a tune?

[grizzled osprey]

How will they know where to place which with no reference 💀

[frail lantern]

it's named

center left etc

[arctic lance]

there are 9 blueprints

[grizzled osprey]

Hmm, could use battery edging to min max that

[arctic lance]

for one product

why not all in one independent system

[frail lantern]

blueprint is not big enough

[grizzled osprey]

No more than 2 regions is a problem. MAIN regions, and the third main region isn't even out yet, that's just people worrying about the future

[arctic lance]

so i have to take all the nine blueprints then what i haev to do? like arrange in which order? ( i jsust reached level 30 )

[frail lantern]

yeah

[grizzled osprey]

Probably something wrong with thermal banks

[frail lantern]

just slot them in

[arctic lance]

woaaaaaa

[graceful oyster]

Gotcha, so V4 even with main and sub AIC isn't the issue when it comes to Wuling being a butthole. Makes sense, I couldn't remember details.

[graceful oyster]

Probably, I'll go over it again and see wtf I need to fix

[arctic lance]

https://tenor.com/view/woozlereacts-sourvision-tohru-honda-fruits-basket-silly-gif-8555081836869933833

[arctic lance]

WTF IS THAT

[frail lantern]

24 cap a per min main aic

[arctic lance]

😭 😭 😭

[grizzled osprey]

Yup, they said once more regions are out we'll be able to run the latest region we unlocked plus the region we last visited. Sub PACs come under main PAC

[frail lantern]

yeah someone are just built different

[cedar phoenix]

I don't have the patience to do a screen like that lol

[arctic lance]

you are build different

[arctic lance]

my brain will sort

[grizzled osprey]

He didn't build it afaik

[frail lantern]

shout out to this guy

[arctic lance]

oh

[cedar phoenix]

but on my main base, I do 18 HC batteries + 12 Bucks A

[grizzled osprey]

I'm scared of those people who even now are out there making those insane packed builds

[arctic lance]

give me a smaller macine i dont have all area unlocked

[cedar phoenix]

so I have 2 outpost doing nothing to cap out on everything

[arctic lance]

alright ima try myself

[frail lantern]

use one of them to run the 24 citrime c to max out the amethyst

[arctic lance]

no sleep tonight

[grizzled osprey]

Best method

[cedar phoenix]

I already do 18 Buck C (someday I'll switch to Citome.. but not today)

[grizzled osprey]

Why switch

[frail lantern]

buck c is locked to the valley outpost so citrime c is better since you can sell to all of them

[arctic lance]

i dont even have this 🥀

[grizzled osprey]

Same sell value

[cedar phoenix]

Citrome C can be selled in more outposts

[grizzled osprey]

How you planning on making anything dude

[cedar phoenix]

not only the first one like Buck C

[frail lantern]

sandleaf is the powerhouse of the cell

[grizzled osprey]

Ohh, thanks for telling, I'll make citrine when I optimize my base then

[arctic lance]

where on map can i found it

[grizzled osprey]

Power plateau

[cedar phoenix]

(I mean, I've heard it was the case, I never checked in game yet)

[teal hemlock]

last area of valley 4

[arctic lance]

which one?

[grizzled osprey]

alright I'll double check later

[cedar phoenix]

the one you don't have yet

[teal hemlock]

you're missing the last one, after origin lode

[grizzled osprey]

Not unlocked

[arctic lance]

more main quest need level 34

[cedar phoenix]

you know what to do then

[arctic lance]

ig itll take a weak atleast

[grizzled osprey]

Are you doing those quests that pop up when you open the index?

I forgot those exist

[arctic lance]

some

[grizzled osprey]

And then I jumped 8 levels

[arctic lance]

https://tenor.com/view/67-67-meme-chitose-is-in-the-ramune-bottle-anime-anime-67-gif-13952106925196703296

[grizzled osprey]

Welp I managed to get thru level wall before doing them, idk how anyone else hits the wall

[cedar phoenix]

don't forget to send your aurylenes too

[arctic lance]

ill js go with the dailies

[arctic lance]

yesyes whats the use of that white balls

[grizzled osprey]

I reached 34 on day 2 without doing those quests, how are you not levelling

[cedar phoenix]

go to a TP, and submit it

[arctic lance]

ow

[grizzled osprey]

Ok here's one reason you're not levelling

[arctic lance]

WELL

not much

my stamina got quantified but barely increased

[fading pulsar]

Do you know how to get it? I need it too.

[grizzled osprey]

I need like 20k exp for one level

[grizzled osprey]

Power plateau

[arctic lance]

its available on some last area in valey 4

[cedar phoenix]

need to go to the last area of Valley 4 (so need to be advanced enough in the story)

[arctic lance]

which is not yet unlocked for me

[arctic lance]

lol

[fading pulsar]

What place is that?

[arctic lance]

is there a certain sequence of attacks to fetch maximum damage

[fading pulsar]

Seriously, that far?

[arctic lance]

yeppppp

[grizzled osprey]

Anyone who was paying attention to story should know

It's where the big boom happened

Big rift in the sky area

[fading pulsar]

Ty

[arctic lance]

the beautiful skip button

[grizzled osprey]

disgusting

[arctic lance]

bleeeeeeeh

[fading pulsar]

TyThe thing is, I set it to Japanese and forgot to change it back.

[arctic lance]

i will later listen to lore explainers

[arctic lance]

same

[fading pulsar]

Haha, I think it can be changed, but I'm going to play it like this anyway.

[arctic lance]

daddy...

[arctic lance]

are you in asia server?

give me your id

lets be friends!

[fading pulsar]

I forgot, but I'll send it to you anyway.

[arctic lance]

bruh i have a task to send one friend request

[grizzled osprey]

He's just a father with cats

[arctic lance]

ahhem

[grizzled osprey]

Just send to as many random people as possible

[fading pulsar]

6151278881 is my id

[grizzled osprey]

Better for stock redistribution

[arctic lance]

ooh

[grizzled osprey]

I already have over 90 friends

[arctic lance]

laaaa you are not in asia server

[grizzled osprey]

Just click on people's profiles, most people have their region roles

[arctic lance]

yee

[arctic lance]

you giv me

id

[grizzled osprey]

Hm alright wait amin

[fading pulsar]

I honestly thought I had it, but maybe they'll change it. Sorry.

[arctic lance]

itsa alrigth

[analog elbow]

which server

[gloomy locust]

how did yall jumpstart wuling AIC did u just bring like a few stacks of batteries from V4 and make everything in a small amount of time

[analog elbow]

I am

[analog elbow]

50 is enough

Just put 25 each in 2 thermal

[crystal herald]

what is stamina delimiter?

[gloomy locust]

aight

[analog elbow]

Increases maximum stamina

[grizzled osprey]

4384164428

[crystal herald]

ahh ok

[analog elbow]

Which equals more dashes

When walking

Or fighting

[crystal herald]

does anyone know how to travel this area with only 3 ziplines?

[grizzled osprey]

Asia, just check people's profiles, almost everyone has region roles

[analog elbow]

Cool

[arctic lance]

whats this

[grizzled osprey]

"I identify as a threat "

[grizzled osprey]

Have you been to dijiang?

[arctic lance]

i am here rn

[grizzled osprey]

Look outside the reception room, I think that refers to the screen that displays operator arts

[arctic lance]

i changecd the art

[analog elbow]

Threat to society

[arctic lance]

nothing happen

[grizzled osprey]

Either that or your display operators

[analog elbow]

[grizzled osprey]

Then go to the room behind the screen

Change display operators on the right wall

[arctic lance]

i did it!

now gift

[grizzled osprey]

[arctic lance]

where to buy

[grizzled osprey]

Stock redistribution

[arctic lance]

thre is no gift here

[grizzled osprey]

There shud be

Maybe you aren't high enough level

You can buy 10 of each gift type for 6000 bills per week

Then 60 for 30k each

[arctic lance]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-reaction-reactions-meme-gif-8141100727479891642

is this the gift

[grizzled osprey]

Hm they're also available for 300 bils the first time iirc

[arctic lance]

oh bill not the issue i have 250K +

[grizzled osprey]

Those are elastic goods, go to the other section, where you get usable items

You're bongo right?

[arctic lance]

yep

[arctic lance]

this one?

[grizzled osprey]

Ok now I have 100 frens

[hard phoenix]

yo what'd be the best blueprint for stock bills? with buck capsule a and c and hc valley battery

[arctic lance]

woahh i have 3

[grizzled osprey]

Same section, scroll down buy gift

[grizzled osprey]

18 HC, 18 buck A, 24 buck C

[arctic lance]

ist daily goods, factory goods, cultural goods and sold

[grizzled osprey]

This channel should have a faq thread

[hard phoenix]

yeah, im asking for the blueprint, do you have a link or smth?

[hard phoenix]

oh

huh

[grizzled osprey]

It doesn't have one

I'm saying it SHOULD

[hard phoenix]

ah

[grizzled osprey]

Like someone should make one

[hard phoenix]

aaah

[arctic lance]

oh dear some fancy looking perfume

[hard phoenix]

so you got a blueprint for that?

[grizzled osprey]

Yea just buy that and give to whoever

[arctic lance]

how to give

[grizzled osprey]

nah I don't keep links saved, scroll up I guess, a guy sent the bps earlier

Lemme just check rq

[empty furnace]

on dijiang spaceship. find them talk to them gift them

[grizzled osprey]

This

@hard phoenix

[arctic lance]

tyy

[hard phoenix]

ty

[grizzled osprey]

Btw a suitable gift increases the circle that appears when gifting by 1/3

A bad one doesn't even fill the circle with 30 gifts

[arctic lance]

yep it did

i gave to the healer sheep girl

[hard phoenix]

im idiotic, i can't find where to import those

nvm

[grizzled osprey]

My operators like wuling gifts

[hard phoenix]

found it

[grizzled osprey]

Ah I forgot to say you have to be the same region as that guy, luckily you're also from EU/Americas

[arctic lance]

how to level up a cabin in the ship

[grizzled osprey]

Go directly to the control panel of said cabin

Need stuff produced at recycling stations

[wind dock]

Is this the max ferrium in wuling?

[arctic lance]

-# confused

[grizzled osprey]

Can use metastorage to increase yield by 25

[grizzled osprey]

Enter cabin find interactable location, interact with interactable location

This is why you should've listened to xaihi instead of skipping

[arctic lance]

is this a cabin

[grizzled osprey]

Yellow and green icon location in map

Won't appear if you haven't constructed them already

Yea... You've only constructed one

[arctic lance]

ye0p

[hard phoenix]

it's not letting me place it

[arctic lance]

CONTROL NEXUS LKEVEL TWO but where isssss this part

[arctic lance]

well

i dont have that algorithm this yet

[grizzled osprey]

Need to do main quest

[arctic lance]

lol i pushed from 30-35 js by completing nods so i can do the aq now

time to beat up boss fight

[grizzled osprey]

Ah dammit, well place it in the center somewhere remove corner depot bus and move it to corner then bulk shift the rest

Btw make sure you're placing it as per labels, or it might not work

[hard phoenix]

alrighty ty ty

[grizzled osprey]

Just ping the guy who sent that if you still can't do it, I can't help cuz I don't use that

Np

[vague storm]

Main quest. You should get to level 4 by the end of the Valley IV questline, and level 5 at the end of the current completable content in Wuling

[winged cedar]

So the most we can do in Wuling is 2 battery productions and then 1 healing thing with 2 forges and you need to kinda manage that if you wanna produce gear parts ?

[arctic lance]

damnn

i am lv3 qand 2

[vast iron]

The 1 depot output overflows even if it works in that state

[summer wyvern]

Thank you this is very good

[hard phoenix]

that wasn't my issue

[vast iron]

Oh

[quick rain]

is there a way to increase the limit of those things?

[true nebula]

Up to 2 in current patch via wuling tech tree

[quick rain]

[delicate flax]

Bro has 47 sky forges lmao

[dense oar]

When will I get my hands of grinding blue rocks ?

[true nebula]

power plateau gets you sandleaf (lv34 I think)

[dense oar]

alr i'm like level 20 with something rn so not quite soon

[true nebula]

doing the node quests is a very good source of xp

[delicate flax]

Leveling is super fast till you get to 50

Finally hit 55 yesterday

[true nebula]

whoa certified gamer

[dense oar]

I have electricity in my house for like 5-8 hours a day and usually at inconvinient times

Even less hours with internet so idk how fast will it be

[winged cedar]

You need to drop a PAC at your house

[delicate flax]

110 hours of playtime. And I don't leave it running afk cause I play on mobile

[true nebula]

I thought I had a lot lol

[winged cedar]

I have 210h and im lvl54 💀

[grizzled osprey]

Factory enthusiast

[winged cedar]

I wasnt super efficient tbh, and tried to make stuff on my own

[grizzled osprey]

or just not doing stuff that gives xp

[delicate flax]

Smh not doing all your dailies

[grizzled osprey]

That's how it shud be

Where's the fun copying bps

[true nebula]

I have like 70hr or something lol

[dense oar]

Situation will get better when war ends so i'll just hope it will be soon

[delicate flax]

If you don't have 0 sanity 24/7 you aren't playing arknights

[winged cedar]

I do though

[grizzled osprey]

Yes, I'm playing endfield

[winged cedar]

Well not really its at 180

[delicate flax]

Bro is rich 180 sanity damn

[grizzled osprey]

I have 200+ sanity rn fs

[teal hemlock]

tfw you wanna connect power but the game really wants you in combat 🥲

[delicate flax]

I have 3 sanity rn and 0 boosters left

[dense oar]

also is this channel also used for omv dijiang things

[grizzled osprey]

I have like 30 boosters, probably why I'm at level 53

[delicate flax]

2 maxed teams I have avy team and last rite team

So now it's factory time till the 12th

[dense oar]

or just factories

[gloomy locust]

is avy worth, im only on LR rn but i wanna make a 2nd team

[winged cedar]

Im not spending the non spoiling boosters, there is no huge compelling motive to push too hard when the game gets clapped so easy, i think im maxing all currencies rn

[grizzled osprey]

Already prepared for spiral abyss arknights equivalent

[grizzled osprey]

Yea

[winged cedar]

Endfield might need 3 teams

[delicate flax]

Her preferred team has no healing other than items so unless you are confident it's a bit hard

[grizzled osprey]

We still got time

[dense oar]

aic 3 will unlock at same time?

[gloomy locust]

idm no heals moreso i just want more teams cuz playing a single squad gets very very boring

espcially last rite

xd

[delicate flax]

Avy is so fun with spear recalls

She was my first team

[grizzled osprey]

Alright imma go do my last run of etchspace to 50k metrics

[winged cedar]

How about max artificing all the gear for 12 characters ... wuling is so ore poor

[true nebula]

I think aic3 is a separate quest. I was able to unlock aic3 before I had sandleaf

[dense oar]

alr

[crystal herald]

finally my beautiful profile

[grizzled osprey]

Forget artificing, we'll get 6 star gear by the time we're finished

[delicate flax]

I wish you could delete the items you pick up from there cause they are annoying in the inventory ;-;

[true nebula]

manually import resources from valley

[winged cedar]

So true lol, i think its not comming out by next patch though maybe in 1.2 or smth 100%

[gloomy locust]

ye i got her 6star weapon so im veryyyy tempted

[winged cedar]

No ... 💀 ts is not RoK or smth im not grinding like that for a non mass pvp game

[delicate flax]

Can't if you are running max efficiency on valley resource usage lol

[winged cedar]

But when Valley creds are useless i hope they allow us to bring ores from there to other places in a automated way

[delicate flax]

Never useless. Gotta buy gifts for the wifes

[winged cedar]

Yeah, but like you can over max get everything you need without being close to max efficiency in Valley

[winged cedar]

Thats like super cheap though

[haughty wharf]

Max efficiency in v4 be like:

Don't ask me how I got it in there

[winged cedar]

Through the ceiling

[delicate flax]

Getting power In there took me like 10 min

[crisp wave]

uhhh am i missing something or are those the only 2 ways for getting ||carbon||

[delicate flax]

It annoyed me sm

[haughty wharf]

Same lmao

[winged cedar]

Idk i always use Sandleaf for Carbon

[true nebula]

Put any plant in refiner to unlock that recipe. Idk why it's hidden initially

(yazhrn and jincao work)

[winged cedar]

And are more space effcient i think no ?

[true nebula]

yazhen/jincao only need 1 planter 1 seed picker

[winged cedar]

The 2 new plants i mean

[crisp wave]

daaamn

thats so evil

[haughty wharf]

This is what my lodespring looks like lol its cursed

[delicate flax]

Fr. Like why is every individual bottle filled with specific liquid hidden. Had to unlock them all manually lmao

[crisp wave]

wait

that still doesn't help me

cuz you need ||sandleaf powder|| for Xi

[surreal jetty]

is this meta

[winged cedar]

I still need to set up my ziplines in a lot of regions ... rip another 10 hours of my life

[delicate flax]

Why do you have power going into the boss arena in crying

[nova lodge]

every plant and their derivatives can produce carbon.
wulling one is just more efficient at it. (but need water.)

[haughty wharf]

Because I need more power

[winged cedar]

You wanna move to using batteries as soon as you can, otherwise that disposition is fine

[nova lodge]

0 sanity gameplay.

[dense oar]

So since i can't play much and i didn't unlocked much i decided to not bother for a time and just get essentials

Is this "oh no this worst i've ever seen" or i can keep it till unlock tier 3 aic and sandleaf

[crisp wave]

WL plants are more efficient? how?

[delicate flax]

I'll forgive you cause Rossi

[nova lodge]

1 seed produced 2 plants.
so instead of a 2 planter, 1 seeder setup, you can just use 1 planter instead.

[empty furnace]

1 wuling plant makes 2 carbon which makes 4 carbon powder. also what the above guy said about less machines to do it too

[crisp wave]

ooh

wait

[nova lodge]

sad that you can't do that in V4, since....no water :v

[crisp wave]

can you farm regular plants in wu too?

just with water?

[true nebula]

You can make it more compact but this is good until you make SC/HC battery since you can use amethyst for making stuff to sell

[crisp wave]

or is this not a for-some-reason-hidden-recipe

[nova lodge]

yeah sure, everything can be farmed, but unneccesary.
and no, other plants can't be farmed with water

your planter can turn on and off hydroponics mode

[surreal jetty]

i see ty

[crisp wave]

okay no i gotta check now

[winged cedar]

How tf do i make the Wuling Zipline things, what on earth is that red part

[nova lodge]

only wulling plants take water btw.
old plants still use the old methods.

producing 1 plants only.

[crisp wave]

i

[empty furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/no-pixels-cant-see-ben-chang-community-ken-jeong-gif-17361588

[crisp wave]

im done

[nova lodge]

that's not wulling.....i think you meant the zipline towers.
you need to produce cryston parts 1st.

same as how you produce steel, but this time, use amesthyst.

[nova lodge]

i just turn off that notification, its annoying.

[crisp wave]

i did not realize you can do this

[winged cedar]

Oh .... no ... i have 100% efficiency in valley .. taht gonna be kinda annoying lol. Thanks

[crisp wave]

i am the BLUNTEST tool in the shed 🙏

[empty furnace]

do it in wuling, just manually move like 10k amethyst or w/e you dont need infinite ziplines

[arctic lance]

@grizzled osprey@frail lanternufff this is the best i came up with for now atleast it works but highly inefficient

[winged cedar]

True, ill do that

[crisp wave]

btw can you change fluid input side? or do i have to space my factories by 1 tile because of pipe

[arctic lance]

what is this theoretical data?

[empty furnace]

if someone says yes you can swap it, my life will explode. but as far as i know you just manage around it, like flipping the seeding machine to the other side

[nova lodge]

if you optimize it, it can produce up to 6 max per min.

[arctic lance]

ooow

[nova lodge]

change the planter position.
that's about it.

[arctic lance]

givv me your optimised bluep, plss

[haughty wharf]

If it hits red you're efficiency is kaput

[crisp wave]

dang, factorio really was just nice like that

[nova lodge]

not in the game atm, and mine is overengineered, not optimized :v.
you definitely won't want it.

[crisp wave]

tho i won't complain, game came out what, 2? 3 weeks ago?

[nova lodge]

[arctic lance]

maaaaan i want an optimised one

[empty furnace]

look 1 channel down and use the search bar

[arctic lance]

ow

[nova lodge]

#1461542035617091681

^ can look here.

[arctic lance]

my god they have bp in parts

[nova lodge]

there is a AK blueprint website as well, but i never use it myself.
i prefer cooking things up manually.

[haughty wharf]

I just realized my batts take up too much space and now I need to work my blue prints.

[empty furnace]

that would be for a fully upgraded core, because its too big to fit in 1 BP

[arctic lance]

fr

1 * 70 * 60 * 24

[teal hemlock]

technically usage > yield is manageable to a certain degree, since during a long break from the game, once end product capacities fill up, the raw material capacities can replenish, and then this cycle repeats when you log back in to sell/use end products

[meager panther]

is 4250 power the lowest to make 18 HC/18 BuckA/120 amethyst bottles/20 origicrust

[grizzled osprey]

I think highly might be an understatement

Haha dw you'll learn, anyway I'm gonna sleep now gn

[true nebula]

that sounds reasonable, but if you're optimizing power usage like that, you probably want to optimize what you're making to power everything too

and maybe you want to have ziplines and turrets around

[rose pecan]

30/min of ferrite from the metastorage is how much per hour please?

[rocky folio]

1800 but ur capped at 1500/hour

[rose pecan]

how can you produce syringue with ferrite then?

[grizzled osprey]

@arctic lance this is still inefficient asf but removes one depot unloader, shredder and pylon, this is me just pointing out the mistakes while mostly keeping the shape you used

[rocky folio]

You wont be at 100% efficiency after a while as you are in 5/min ferrite deficit

[rose pecan]

what if i send bottle instead, is it more efficient? (and ferrite for other thing)

[rocky folio]

I wouldn’t

[rose pecan]

why

[vestal tiger]

Planter loop with water uses only one planter or it's still the normal 2

[grizzled osprey]

@arctic lance biggest mistake is to increase horizontal space taken by reducing vertical space consumption, you're just gonna take up the space above other places where unloaders could be placed

[rocky folio]

Metastorage lets you keep what you send to the other region in your region of origin

So if you send bottles you lose ferrite and keep bottles which you will have to refit your valley factories to use instead of ferrite from depot

[grizzled osprey]

Yea

Resource consumption wise you wouldn't gain or lose anything doing it either way though

Depends on what you prefer, you could make one input for making yazhen/jincao solution directly connected to bottles, this reduces space taken too

[meager panther]

Is anyone able to run lower power than this for the same production?

[grizzled osprey]

Yea

I mean

You want reduced power output or what?

[meager panther]

My base is technically optimized for minimum possible power i'm just wondering if I have any zipelines/weapons not turned off

[frank turtle]

Nope.
DIGE strikes a balance between saving as much Watts as possible without getting unreasonable with the amount of Phases or Splitters to use.

[grave apex]

the AIC when later other than 20 times per minute how they can you when when you went for profit if they attack the later in wuling or no?

[grizzled osprey]

Ah, tbf just use batteries in weapons, each stack lasts an eternity

[frank turtle]

You can technically chase an infinitely better getting precision as you start including more phases and splitters - but at some point, you will run into space constraints.

[meager panther]

how much power do you run when making 18/18/120/20?

[grizzled osprey]

Idk sry

[trim star]

this was yesterday's conversation i explained this

how did you land on it now

[frank turtle]

Was digging up, alright

[trim star]

pwm when you introduce infinite series

[hallow river]

I did a larger approach lol

[trim star]

leander did a whole calculation of the split loop back it was pretty cool

[grizzled osprey]

This for meds? Yea ideally meds should be taking allat

That blueprint is just something ovy whipped up for the first time not knowing what he/she was doing

I mean two sandleaf unloader with one output port

On the shredder

[hallow river]

It's for meds but also to produce the plant for mats, I didn't hook the med maker and added it separate as the layout takes the entirety of the first AIC you get(lvl 2 upgrade)

Well top half of it

[grizzled osprey]

Oo yea, so you used self sustaining plant generators?

[hallow river]

Yep, self substaining planters for the red and yellow and carbon production too

[grizzled osprey]

Great as long as you got all ratios right

Good to see more people making their own builds

[winged cedar]

Was able to make it in Wuling

[hallow river]

I wish I'm making the sandleaf powder like there is nothing left,(just designed it today but already got 9.2k sandleaf powder)

[grizzled osprey]

why tho

[winged cedar]

So i dont have to touch my valley stuff

[grizzled osprey]