aic-factory

[grizzled osprey]

Why would they want those 24 capsule C honestly

[vapid granite]

Ill never understand mtfkers that place ziplines in the middle, NOT EVEN IN THE MIDDLE, of random pathways

[grizzled osprey]

What do people do with them

The capsules

Type C

[golden burrow]

+10% income operators + more than 4 thermal banks

[grizzled osprey]

Hahaha

[runic epoch]

Maybe they just ran out of zip length on their end

[vapid granite]

id just give up if thats the case

[pulsar lotus]

I kinda wish they make some good buff food factory-able
But nah, they make us farm

In the big Talos Industrial age

[grizzled osprey]

I should really read, some operators give bonus money on meds?

[runic epoch]

I too do not give a shit about placing ziplines in conspicuous places

As long as it gets the job done
Aesthetics in relays is hard to manage well in this game

[golden burrow]

ssshit i'm too tired to explain all this

[grizzled osprey]

halp

[golden burrow]

uhh do you understand how outpost income works

[grizzled osprey]

You sell stuff you git mone

[golden burrow]

fuck

argh

fine okay

all outposts generate a certain amuont of moneys

this depends on each outpost

now some operators when assigned gives +10% income to this income

[grizzled osprey]

[runic epoch]

Mainly medicine c is made to utilise amethyst

It's extra money so why not

[golden burrow]

why are we doing 18/18? because that's enough to outpace the outpost income generation

[pulsar lotus]

Stur give like all 3 bonuses
I mean Levianthan

[grizzled osprey]

It isn't, all outposts already stay broke

[grizzled osprey]

Yea

Well

[runic epoch]

Do you never wait like a full cycle

[golden burrow]

now if you're using the +10% income operators

the 18/18 isn't enough

[grizzled osprey]

Also that we can only fit 6 HC lines

[golden burrow]

so you need to boost it with 24 buck c

do you get it

say you get it bc i'm too tired to reexplain

[grizzled osprey]

Wait a minute... There's operators that increase how fast outposts generate money?

[golden burrow]

yes

[grizzled osprey]

[runic epoch]

Do you not set operators for your outposts

[grizzled osprey]

Ok thanks

[runic epoch]

if you hit all those 3 three circles you're making the most amount already

[grizzled osprey]

I just place the one that has the most yellow in it's abilities without reading what said abilities do

[jovial breach]

Don't need prosperity man

[pulsar lotus]

You need it to reach outpost level 4 fast

The faster you reach, the faster and more money you make

[grizzled osprey]

[pulsar lotus]

Cus leveling outpost up gave you defend mission that increase income

[jovial breach]

Just use anyone that has +20% stock earning rate, then you switch to +20% stock via trading when you sell and swap back again

[runic epoch]

Just let it sit for a day and a half or sum

[grizzled osprey]

Ok I'm gonna have to go check what the operator abilities are

[pulsar lotus]

Read thru to tutorial again
Who know what else you missed

[golden burrow]

asking gacha gamers to read

do you even hear yourself

[pulsar lotus]

Also the fact that when the new 3rd region hit
You can only activate 2 offline production line

[grizzled osprey]

pretty sure it's just operator abilities that I've got left to check

[pulsar lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-man-guy-evil-whisper-gif-16225917572032847521

[foggy arch]

how can i get water on the sub pac in wuling

[pulsar lotus]

No

[jovial breach]

Just fuck valley, ez

[golden burrow]

there's a pond nearby

[runic epoch]

The suspiciously large lake Infront of the exit

[grizzled osprey]

I'm actually an avid reader... Just novels and stuff not endfield character abilities

[pulsar lotus]

better get the motor bike before then

[golden burrow]

liar liar pants on fire

[foggy arch]

is it this thing here

[jovial breach]

I saw the bike and honestly it's smaller tha i expected

[pulsar lotus]

There

[grizzled osprey]

I read manhwas, novels, mangas, light novels I can share my subscription lists

[foggy arch]

gotcha

[golden burrow]

yknow what go on

whatchu reading there boy

[grizzled osprey]

You want it?

[runic epoch]

We all know manhwa readers don't read

[grizzled osprey]

Do you read manhwas btw?

[grizzled osprey]

No I do trust

[golden burrow]

uhh those are webtoons right

[runic epoch]

Yea

[grizzled osprey]

Stormlight archive, mistborn

[golden burrow]

korean comics

[fossil spoke]

manhwa readers is a fast scroller rather than reader imo (no offense)

[grizzled osprey]

Obviously the entire 3 percy jackson series

[fossil spoke]

since the page is long

[grizzled osprey]

Yea true

[pulsar lotus]

wdym, some are short as f
Over 100 chapter syndrome

[grizzled osprey]

Harry Potter but I don't remember shit cuz I haven't read that since 4th grade

[fossil spoke]

not the chapter, but the page in each chapter

the section is longer

than manga

[golden burrow]

guys i don't think these are manhwas

[pulsar lotus]

Yea, True

[grizzled osprey]

Not number of chapters, he's talking about how you scroll

[golden burrow]

he's lying to us

[jovial breach]

I just cant read manhwa, the page is so big i just forget what's in the upper half of the page when i scroll down to see the lower half

[pulsar lotus]

Long ass white and black space

[grizzled osprey]

Those are novels

[fossil spoke]

this

[grizzled osprey]

For manhwas I'm doing

The world after the fall rn

Rereading it cuz I lost the lot

Plit

Plot

[runic epoch]

Quick give me the summary to SSS Class Suicide Hunter (yes this is an actual name)

[golden burrow]

why my bro admitting to having goldfish memory 😭

[grizzled osprey]

There's a guy he has no abilities

He gets shit ability

To

Get ability of guy who kills him

[fossil spoke]

bro having short attention span 😭

[grizzled osprey]

Kills guy with basically immortality skill

Wait ho

Gets killed by

Gets his immortality skill

Suicides like 1000 times

Kills the immortal guy before he unlocked immortality

[golden burrow]

"shit ability" = "literally the most broken shit ever"

[grizzled osprey]

PS by immortal I mean return to 1 day in the past immortal

[golden burrow]

tf are these writers smoking

[grizzled osprey]

No, you get the ability of the dude who kills you

He was toast if the opponent didn't have what's basically immortality

[golden burrow]

you don't think that's broken?

[fossil spoke]

their own manhwa pages ? since all manhwas has similar plot

[runic epoch]

The plot saved him

[grizzled osprey]

You die

You don't make it out unless it's an ability that like turns back time when you die

[golden burrow]

ohh i assumed immortality was like a normal thing there

[grizzled osprey]

Which is what he got surprise surprise

[grizzled osprey]

No

[golden burrow]

okay fair

[runic epoch]

How did we go from reading comprehension to this lmfao

[grizzled osprey]

I think I proved my point

[runic epoch]

Truly
Only in the factory channel

[grizzled osprey]

Anyone else got a random novel they want a summary of

I wanna do reverend insanity

[golden burrow]

na if no one has questions then there's not really anything else to talk about

[grizzled osprey]

No factory questions around rn

[fossil spoke]

this remind me of that one gif on instagram comment, and the gif content is the whole bee movie

compressed in a gif

[golden burrow]

this is #aic-factory #offtopic_general

[runic epoch]

Are we all waiting for an unsuspecting victim of blueprints

[grizzled osprey]

#off-topic

[glossy nymph]

Life is getting boring again.

[golden burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-gif-21791471

[fossil spoke]

[grizzled osprey]

No more blueprints to make huh? Try to understand how https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469163037876555954 works, gonna make life interesting again

[north moth]

Factory must grow into all other channels.

[grizzled osprey]

Guys it's time to migrate

Bring the joy of

[glossy nymph]

Nan too much.

[grizzled osprey]

Factory to

Other channels

[fossil spoke]

battery optimizing is fun

[grizzled osprey]

Understandable, but whenever you feel bored remember this exists and you could choose to comprehend it

[fossil spoke]

before we going back to the topic of this channel that intended to, can I get a link for that gif

[grizzled osprey]

I understand how it works now but still need to understand why it sometimes doesn't

[golden burrow]

uhh idk it's on tenor

[fossil spoke]

any name ? keyword ?

[golden burrow]

just bee movie

[fossil spoke]

or just search bee movie on tennor

[golden burrow]

ye

[fossil spoke]

😭

[grizzled osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bee-movie-gif-21791471

[fossil spoke]

thanks

[grizzled osprey]

Auto adds embed

[grizzled osprey]

You can long click on gifs and select copy media link btw

[fossil spoke]

when I did that, and paste it on other channel / server it become an video embed

[grizzled osprey]

I'm curious what alex is typing

[glossy nymph]

Btw chat yesterday night i almost died bc I was having a cold+Allergic reaction. And breathing became super hard. I had to breath from my mouth, and excidently did it too hard ( don't ask how) which cause me having chest pain when i breathe now.

[grizzled osprey]

Long press video select remove embed

[glossy nymph]

I still got the pain

[fossil spoke]

get well soon bro

[grizzled osprey]

On your own post

[fossil spoke]

ah, aight

[glossy nymph]

Thanks

[grizzled osprey]

I don't know why but I think I understand breathing too hard

[glossy nymph]

Hmm i wonder where is kai.

[kind hull]

fellas question it says my yeild is les than my ussage in current but in theory its the same does that mean i have to wait abit for it to stabilize or?

[runic epoch]

You don't have enough buckflower farms

[glossy nymph]

Ye like it happened because i tried to take deep breaths but fast. [Which you should never do] that lead to the chest pain i am having whenever I breath or cough.

[kind hull]

so i need more alr

[zealous mortar]

ok i changed mine valley 4 base to produce 24 hc batteries 18 a meds and 24 c meds just question how many thermal banks i need ?

[runic epoch]

Chotto matte
24HC?

[glossy nymph]

Bruh plp are still talking about HC factory.

[runic epoch]

5 thermal banks is enough to power most valley 4 factories

[grizzled osprey]

Yea

[zealous mortar]

sec maybe i write something wrong let me check 😄

[glossy nymph]

Here my hc is keep piling up. 😭😭

[golden burrow]

as many as you need (you can probably remove 1 or 2 from your current setup)

[zealous mortar]

my bad its 18 hc

[glossy nymph]

The outposts are poor for 3 days now.

Sucking every bit of stock bills.

[runic epoch]

Yea 5 thermals is enough for you

[zealous mortar]

okie kinda i produce the bombs to fill ups the delivery

[golden burrow]

24 buck c stans when they realize that it's useless bc the outposts don't generate enough money

[zealous mortar]

but then i saw to cant over buy they outposts

[runic epoch]

24 buck C's when they realise they can use it for deliveries instead

[golden burrow]

me with capped sandflower powder

[zealous mortar]

i got a lot to buy 😄

[glossy nymph]

You with game issues.

[jovial breach]

Lmao

[glossy nymph]

Don't even make me explain why

[kind hull]

alr i have no idea wats going on now its starting to flactuate

[zealous mortar]

also which chars are good for lead in outposts to get money profits not xp ?

[golden burrow]

i'm gonna be honest bro i have no idea what you mean

[runic epoch]

Wait can we see what your production line looks like

[glossy nymph]

Good

[trail mirage]

Fill 3rd spot when afk, 2nd spot when selling

[glossy nymph]

You should forget.

[kind hull]

for wat exactly?

[jovial breach]

Look for anyone with +20% stock earning rate, then swap to +20% via trading when you sell, after you done selling swap back

[runic epoch]

You have no excess of buckflowers + that difference between 100 uptime and current is quite vast

[glossy nymph]

That thing you did Is still hunting me in my dreams. But it's alr as long you don't remember.

[golden burrow]

bro doing speedrun strats to buy the useless trophy bike

[glossy nymph]

Hmm

Only got 1

[jovial breach]

I gotta buy 60 alien puzzle for LR

[kind hull]

sawat i mean is what do u wanna see the buckflower stuff or where its going?

[runic epoch]

Yeah what's the buck used for

[jovial breach]

Honestly smaller than i expected

[golden burrow]

that looks like shit actually wtf

oh mobile?

[grizzled osprey]

Perlica broke this bike and now we gotta buy a model of it instead

[kind hull]

cause i have like 10 of these made there going into these for capsulese and such

[glossy nymph]

It's a model what the fuck dp you guys expect from it.

[runic epoch]

Nah it is just that small

[zealous mortar]

this is for trading right ?

[grizzled osprey]

I wanted the bike we were riding when we first came to talos 2

[zealous mortar]

to get extra money

[golden burrow]

i dunno, actual shapes and textures instead of being a blob

[glossy nymph]

He got problem with sizes.

[runic epoch]

Hey uh how much initial buckflowers did you put inside the farm

[kind hull]

...1

why

[glossy nymph]

That's ummm just my graphics issues man.

[runic epoch]

.... There's your issue

[north moth]

opps no. that for prosperity

[kind hull]

...i see how much was i supposed to put

[grizzled osprey]

Dw, same issues here

[nova lodge]

that's for leveling up the outpost faster....
it should say stock bills if you want more moneh~~

[glossy nymph]

Ohh yeah i almost forgot about that one seen.

[golden burrow]

ideally 50 but 20+ or so works too

[kind hull]

man i didnt know it was like that

[zealous mortar]

pog have double passive 😄

for prosperity and money

[nova lodge]

gud~, they will show you the moneh now.

[runic epoch]

We've all been there
The more you know

[jovial breach]

Why dont you just shift click it, that automatically put in a full stack

[kind hull]

i didnt have that much at the time

[glossy nymph]

But still better than other games. When it comes to smooth running on phones.

[zealous mortar]

i maybe finally get all bills which i leave in outposts >->

[kind hull]

the more uk haha...

[runic epoch]

He has no buckflowers in depot 😭

[jovial breach]

Lol

Should just delete the belt

Let it make some before connect the belt back

[grizzled osprey]

I'm pretty sure 4 works

[kind hull]

nah i have an idea to sollve this

[glossy nymph]

4 Inches?

[zealous mortar]

also chen have 2x passive

[runic epoch]

"Nah imma do my own thing"

[grizzled osprey]

I have occasional lag spikes

[glossy nymph]

Ohhh

[golden burrow]

ah okay

[grizzled osprey]

[glossy nymph]

Don't mind the...

[glossy nymph]

Ye

[cedar phoenix]

the second one is only useful to level up the prosperity level of the area tho

[jovial breach]

Ye same, it's probably bc your pc is overheating

[glossy nymph]

I think i don't get much. But for some reason it happens whenever I do depot dilivery.

[grizzled osprey]

Mobile, under minimum requirements

[north moth]

ideally you want these 2 passives.

[zealous mortar]

@cedar phoenix i just saw some chars have both i dont get use to this until i make buck a productions on outposts 😄

just changed the leads also need look at lead in wuling

[glossy nymph]

Well i might be getting money to make pc or a better phone. from my grandpa after this exam is over and I pass the test.

[cedar phoenix]

I mean, it will be useful once we can get to higher level with futures updates at least, so at least you know it now

[grizzled osprey]

nvm I think it's 8 or 9 minimum for it run perfectly, should just put a full stack tho, less work

[nova lodge]

wow....i wish i can get such rewards if i just pass my test.....but yeah, really good for you.

[zealous mortar]

yeah a lot experience for future outposts upgrades 😄

[nova lodge]

do read up on computer specs though, more often than not, older people lack the knowledge for it =.=

[jagged swallow]

I doing something wrong am i not?

[jovial breach]

[jagged swallow]

i doubt i can make a battery under 200 power LOL

[grizzled osprey]

[elder flame]

Jump start it

[jovial breach]

Idk where to start

[grizzled osprey]

That's so so clogged

[golden burrow]

burn originium temporarily until you get batteries

[grizzled osprey]

Same same

[golden burrow]

or just import valley4 batteries

[grizzled osprey]

I'll let lemon handle this

[cedar phoenix]

Ideally, you want to put Wulfgard in the Wuling outpost once fully leveled out, because he has the 2 passives for more bills (but he don't have the exp one)

wait it's not the wuling one you were refferring to mb

[jagged swallow]

i guess i have no choice but to let factory AFK and deal with IRL and come back to this went i have to

[grizzled osprey]

Have to bring over batteries from v4 to jumpstart the process, then switch over to wuling batteries when you've got them running

[zealous mortar]

okie

[jagged swallow]

because quick fix such as valley 4 battery is kinda....

6 per min do you understand HOW BAD THAT IS

[north moth]

you have 1 extra input line to the grinder, and you only need 1 refining unit after the grinder.

[golden burrow]

it's only until you get the wuling lc batteries set up

[grizzled osprey]

[jagged swallow]

then again

[grizzled osprey]

@golden burrow look at this

[golden burrow]

he's trying to make an lc battery line no?

[jagged swallow]

this all THIS IN VALLEY 4 T_T

i am

LMAO

[grizzled osprey]

Look at the horrible clog

And yes batteries

[jagged swallow]

i have them HERE
but metastorage BEING ASS

[jade hare]

holy

[jagged swallow]

nice one

[golden burrow]

where?

[nova lodge]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[grizzled osprey]

So much value

[north moth]

Here

[jagged swallow]

IS BEEN roughly 2 days from 9K to well THIS MUCH

[cedar phoenix]

that's really nice
don't sell it unless you have a selling price at 5000 among your friends or more if you want to capitalise on it even more, and keep it until you do

[jagged swallow]

like i doubt 50 per hour work

T_T

[jade hare]

already done that

[cedar phoenix]

nice

[steep whale]

Does anyone know any video or guide on Vally IV Blueprints?

[grizzled osprey]

One grinder 3 carbon output

[runic epoch]

#1461542035617091681

Or renegade/kyo/xlice
If you want videos

[grizzled osprey]

or am I tripping and that works?

[golden burrow]

ah, that's not good but that's not what clog means

[runic epoch]

It's inefficiency

[grizzled osprey]

Oh

So clog is something not working at all?

[jagged swallow]

i forgot to share this XD

[runic epoch]

Clog is excess input of one ratio to another

Or just excess in general

[grizzled osprey]

He's got excess input too as far as I can see

[golden burrow]

clog is when it gets backed up

like with the red circle mark

[vale seal]

hey guys, I just entered Wuling, and I was surprised that my AIC stuff wasn't connected from valley 4, because I was since then builing terrible and unoptimized factories with the mindset "I'll start from the ground up when I finish the story" but now that I know that the factories don't carry from one region to another, what should I do ?

[grizzled osprey]

Hmm do it's just inefficient alright I was tripping

[golden burrow]

finish the story first and then start from the ground up

it's not long either way

might as well clear it first

[grizzled osprey]

Do story, when you get to factory bring over batteries from v4 to jumpstart wuling battery production

[jagged swallow]

tbf i UNLOCK my MAIN PAC in wuling to be max in all AREAS but not yet SUB PAC

[grizzled osprey]

So much coal, 0 xiranite

[vale seal]

okay okay thank you very much

[jagged swallow]

i have SO MUCH XIRANITE actually

WTH is this NUMBER

[north moth]

idk what you trying to do here. Make LC Wuling battery? But you shared picture of HC valley battery with 16k in stock. Also use metatransfer over stockpile transfer.

[jagged swallow]

i have SO MUCH IRL stuff alright me stuggle with factory XD

[grizzled osprey]

Oh, right, that's valley depot that you shared

[zealous mortar]

@runic epochok looks good 10 goes for selling +24 c med +18 a meds hope to i can buy out all mine bills on valley 4 😄

[grizzled osprey]

Btw

You can go to dijiang and manually transfer stuff depot to depot

If metastorage too slow

[jagged swallow]

i sort of not want to due to....HC battery make me have an PTSD 0 power OUT OF NOWHERE

[jagged swallow]

isnt this meta storage LOL

[runic epoch]

LC wuling is hard to screw over

[runic epoch]

No

[jagged swallow]

i know this is region traansfer

[runic epoch]

Click edit

[jagged swallow]

me stuggle to find the metastorage all i found was

[runic epoch]

There should be metastorage

[true thorn]

Is there any way to recall all deployed things in the world outside the factories? Stuff like relays, ziplines etc? or do I have to do it by hand?

[jagged swallow]

this

[nova lodge]

you need to be RDL 12 to have meta storage as well.

[grizzled osprey]

He has it

[golden burrow]

you gotta do it by hand

[jagged swallow]

WHERE THE EDIT

[true thorn]

alr, time wasted then

[fervent stratus]

So in Wuling, there is enough space at the farming plot for 42 plots but Dev capped it at 20 plots =_=
In Valley IV, there is only enough for 20 plots

[jagged swallow]

i have lvl 12 in valley 4

[runic epoch]

To the right

[jagged swallow]

i give up

[golden burrow]

yes

[runic epoch]

"edit"

[ancient zinc]

Where I’m at?

[grizzled osprey]

[golden sapphire]

i think its on your minimap bubba

[golden burrow]

wait, can you fit 20 plots in valley4?

[fervent stratus]

No, only 16

[golden burrow]

how

smh

[fervent stratus]

My bad lol

[jagged swallow]

wtf does this do?

[runic epoch]

Essentially duplication

[grizzled osprey]

Dupes stuff, instead of transfer

[jagged swallow]

oooo

[north moth]

it makes 1500 metrial out of thin air.

[runic epoch]

It does not eat into your depot

[empty furnace]

separating unit, PLS i wanna know what the mystery is!

[jagged swallow]

NANI

[fervent stratus]

So you can't hit the cap in Valley IV but Wuling got double the size so....

[grizzled osprey]

Somehow endmin takes same time to transfer that stuff and to generate it from thin air

[nova lodge]

its +25 loot per min for ferrium

not 30...annoying, but hey, every bit helps.

[grizzled osprey]

Becomes components for me

[runic epoch]

How old is the Endmin again

[fervent stratus]

Is there even any farmable food in Valley IV? I know there is 1 healing item you can farm in Wuling

[ancient zinc]

Remember Edmin summon those grand cannon

[grizzled osprey]

One century minimum

Haha

[golden burrow]

uhh firebuckle and 1 other one i forgor

[north moth]

stockpile tranfer if you want to transfer items physically from 1 depot to another. Metatransfer keeps items where they are and dupes them.

[runic epoch]

I'm expecting those to be endgame turrets

[nova lodge]

as old as civilization on talos 2 can remember.
the definition of a living historical figure.

[golden burrow]

as old as civilization is on the planet

[fervent stratus]

I meant the ones we can't make in factory already

[grizzled osprey]

why don't we get these to put in refugee camp

[fervent stratus]

Like this one in Wuling (You only need to farm the rice for this one

[golden burrow]

firebuckle not buckflower

wait

not that

[ancient zinc]

Same question…

[golden burrow]

uhh there's 2

i forgor name tho

[empty furnace]

reed?

[grizzled osprey]

Including the natives?

[nova lodge]

just eat jinciao powder, nearly the same effects but easier to make :3

[golden burrow]

tartpepper

ue

[jagged swallow]

metastorage sound broken

[nova lodge]

ah, then no :v
but the as old as the originum slugs on talos 2 :3

[desert hound]

need at least 5k watt to power that shit

[golden burrow]

reed + tartpepper @fervent stratus

[ancient zinc]

Imagine energy and ammo for it

[fervent stratus]

This is techincally farmable.... need a LOT of hunting lol

[grizzled osprey]

Can do looks cool

[north moth]

not really. you cant use it on any item you want, devs know.

[grizzled osprey]

Just make syringes

[jagged swallow]

hope so but kinda useful for what I NEED rn

[nova lodge]

well, its most of it so.....i can't find any reason NOT to use it yet.....
even the item limit and delivery time is the same.

[grizzled osprey]

Manual transfer doesn't even take that long, you can transfer 1750 with like 4 clicks

[jagged swallow]

if i need that dense cube that glow to make battery saving power around 200+ just for that x3 times because is 15

[fervent stratus]

It's no where near the same effect =_=

[nova lodge]

control + left click items, fill inventory, transfer to wulling :3

[jagged swallow]

tell that to someone who has MAX depot

[grizzled osprey]

Yeah it's bonus generation out of thin air so why not

[jagged swallow]

aka 48K

max storage

[north moth]

I hoped I could take LC wuling battery to Valley 4 and dupe them but cant.

[grizzled osprey]

Ten minutes max to transfer over 48k

Lesser actually

Probably 5 mins

[nova lodge]

not that one, farm jinciao flower, get fluffy jinciao flower.
that one is better, +20% hp recovery, short farming time and gives way more.

[fervent forum]

My mining devices always get clogged with belt-free.. is there a better way to do it?

[jagged swallow]

but i really have to lock in

T_T doing that might make me sleep lol

[golden burrow]

what?? are you using portable miners instead of electric rigs?

[fervent stratus]

You can get the rare plant from farming?

[desert hound]

if it's clogged that means your depot is full

[fervent forum]

OH i see

thanks

[grizzled osprey]

Only reason I didn't do that was cuz we'd only be able to copy less than 30 of them per hour

[nova lodge]

yep, i knew that just recently too.
applies to firebuckle as well lol.
you get about 1-3 per plot for fluffy jinciao

[grizzled osprey]

That's why I say the FARM must grow

[nova lodge]

too lazy ;v

just gimme enough and me happi

[fervent stratus]

EN can't read moment...

[grizzled osprey]

Tbh it's not worth, you gotta go and harvest every time

It's ridiculous endmin doesn't have autoharvesters

[nova lodge]

didn't check the desciptions for most things at time.

[fervent stratus]

Harvest is the slowest part since ally can't help, yeah

[grizzled osprey]

Will the crops get damaged or something

[nova lodge]

no tutorial provided :3

[grizzled osprey]

They can afaik

[golden burrow]

they can

[fervent stratus]

Really? I haven't see it yet

[grizzled osprey]

Your allies just dum

[golden burrow]

they can plant water harvest

[nova lodge]

well, at least you get to skip the the watering part.
but yes, allies can help with planting and harvesting.

[golden burrow]

i can confirm

[fervent stratus]

It's probably the sprinklers blocking them lol

[grizzled osprey]

They're pretty happy after harvesting too

They do happy emotes

[sinful gull]

Am I doing this right?

[strong walrus]

POV: you're to poor for Area Expansions😭

[fossil spoke]

imo, farming fluffed jincao in eco plant is easier

[nova lodge]

DOMAIN EXPANSION!, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT!.
you must learn this skill....

[grizzled osprey]

Go to dijiang

Perlica is waiting

[fervent stratus]

I think Jincao have less uses (They get no upgrades so stuck at 3 uses)

[grizzled osprey]

Wait how're you still poor when you're pretty much at wuling

[nova lodge]

well,.....if you need 4 then yes, though generally 3 is enough.

[grizzled osprey]

Less healing if you think about it

[golden burrow]

just don't get hit lmao

[north moth]

Wrong flow directions. You can select a pipe and reverse flow it.

[strong walrus]

Perlica took all my money😔

[nova lodge]

i know, but also more item use....for things that takesa while to grow as well.

[fervent stratus]

If Jincao Tisane already need Ferrium, what do Jincao Infusion use? Steel Bottles?

[warped idol]

How much ratio of line i need for make if the stuf need 10+10 mats?

[nova lodge]

.paypal

[shrewd sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-me-paypal-paypal-me-30k-perlica-arknights-gif-3472834387034500009

[frozen nacelle]

5 fluff powder, 10 steel bottle

[grizzled osprey]

Oh yea... But it's not like you're using that stuff for regular exploration anyway right? Might as well have more uses for difficult fights

[golden burrow]

10 mats per 10s is 2 belts

[sinful gull]

all the pipes are fixed, pipes are a bit buggy so i just took the ss lmao

[warped idol]

So only 2 belt need per gearing ynit?

Or what?

[north moth]

.paypalnt

[shrewd sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/paypal-30000-arknights-arknights-end-arknight-endfield-gif-8615212440352069827

[grizzled osprey]

Alright bye guys

[golden burrow]

2 for each material

[frozen nacelle]

i dont have spare ferrium. i think i'll just eat fluffed jincao powder and work on stockpiling ginseng infusion

[nova lodge]

that's fine too, now go slep ;3

[warped idol]

Ok aight i understand

[fervent stratus]

You need like 1.5 plot with Bumper buff per one item, yeah (Growth time is like 12 hours)

[sinful gull]

It's time to give the people what they deserve

[nova lodge]

muddy jinciao water....

[fervent stratus]

So like.... 26 food item per day (2 times per day * 20 plots / 1.5 per item)

Not that bad if you aren't using them often

[desert hound]

should've do yazhen so it looks like a piss water

[north moth]

.sigma2

[shrewd sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-takdes-takundes-lowlight-arknights-meme-gif-7306430653055212822

[nova lodge]

oh yeah....i forgot, jinciao / yanzhen direct mix doesn't need bottles or steel parts.
no wonder everyone's been filling pools up with those solutions =.=.

[fervent stratus]

Can do that, yes

[sinful gull]

idk why but those bottles are bothering me

[fervent stratus]

Don't mind the carbon.... I thought I need to rebuild the plot each harvest lol

[fervent stratus]

Amethyst bottle from me trying to test if there is a recipe for it
Jincao bottles from me redoing the machines and from depot

[north moth]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en
Pretty cool website for min maxing battery.

[sinful gull]

I swear the bottle with jincao solution is made out of steel

and not ferrium

[fervent stratus]

It looks like Steel Bottle, yes. It's brighter

[sinful gull]

now fill the 2 smaller pools

in the same area

[glossy nymph]

What this call again?

[fervent stratus]

Ferrium Bottle with Jincao solution

[glossy nymph]

Yooo you finally did it. Nice 👍

[glossy nymph]

I can make that irl.

[fervent stratus]

.....

[glossy nymph]

Just need a hand and a phone with internet.

[stoic coyote]

you can battle around then heal in the pool

[glossy nymph]

Drowning?

[stoic coyote]

no, just stand at the slope

lol

[nova lodge]

jinciao solution....drinkable mountain dew.
or green coloured tea.

[ancient zinc]

Now dive on it

[glossy nymph]

Does it work though?

[fervent stratus]

It barely heal tho lol

[stoic coyote]

like 197 per sec

[glossy nymph]

Now dive into it*

[sinful gull]

toxic waste

[nova lodge]

wait....it HEALS!??!

[stoic coyote]

[fervent stratus]

It works but the heal is small

[sinful gull]

or energy drink

[stoic coyote]

yeah you can heal with healing liquid in the pool

[fervent stratus]

Do both heal at the same rate?

[glossy nymph]

THE POOL OF GREEN TEA!!! 🍵

[ancient zinc]

[nova lodge]

damn....but hey, not much place to fill up with jinciao solution....

[fervent stratus]

Is it only Jincao?

[stoic coyote]

yazhen can be

[glossy nymph]

Stop flexing your zipline management to me. 😔

[ancient zinc]

Just find those magical edges

[glossy nymph]

Fix all of them together.

[sinful gull]

basically any fluid

[stoic coyote]

stop edging

[sinful gull]

xiranite too I belive

[nova lodge]

or even xiranite :3

[stoic coyote]

xiranite water I didnt test

[glossy nymph]

Btw. I almost died yesterday.

[nova lodge]

what happens if you mix jinciao, yanzhen and xiranite into the pool though?

[fervent stratus]

You can't

[stoic coyote]

nah

clog

[nova lodge]

ehhhhhhh, noooooooooo

[fervent stratus]

You can't mix the liquid

[north moth]

Someone put a shared zipline here.

[stoic coyote]

if the pool has 1 liquid, the other output clog

[nova lodge]

i wanna make xiranite infused drinks :3, its more effective, trus.
filled to brim with 'cabonated' electrolytes :3
freshly brewed with all natural ingredients.

xiranite: natural
jinciao: natural
water: clean

add mud for added flavor 'enhancer'

[ancient zinc]

Those Hide HUD glitches

[glossy nymph]

☝️

[inland knoll]

i keep hearing about ppl getting the out of bounds zipline with some bug related to the camera but what is that about how would the camera make that happen

[stoic coyote]

what the point

drink more water

[glossy nymph]

But it's a Allergic reaction.

[ancient zinc]

Careful

EpiPen can be expensive…like how much it cos at American

[stoic coyote]

what thing triggered it

[glossy nymph]

But i survived without one. *sadly *

[stoic coyote]

crazy

[ancient zinc]

Technically u place a unit then press HIDE Facility and unit will be gone

Then that’s the part u move ur operator to the same location of that unit then UnHIDE the facility and it pushes u or u can jump on it by keybinding ur jump

Dats why on PC can do it

[north moth]

Oh thats how. But I wonder how that person managed to get all way to the top.

[ancient zinc]

Better know what triggered ur allergies

It might something you been eating / using not reacting to it but ur body say

NAH ur allergic to it now

[glossy nymph]

Well tbh I don't exactly know but. At first it was just coughing. I thought it bc i have cold. But quickly i noticed the breathing problem.

[glossy nymph]

Ik

[stoic coyote]

[glossy nymph]

Already had one of thous Allergic tests.

[lone bluff]

A Thermal Bank keeps accepting batteries until it is filled with 50. So there will always be 49 batteries sitting the the unit wasting space. Is there a way to regulate how many batteries are transported to the Thermal Bank per time unit, like 1 per 40 seconds?
I thought maybe the Item Control Port, but that regulator only loads the set quantity then stops.

[stoic coyote]

use splitter

[ancient zinc]

I remember i don’t have allergic to pickles that I used to eat

But now I had

[glossy nymph]

Maybe it happened bc i skipped 4 days of my Allergic medication pills. 🤔

[north moth]

lore accurate Endfield Ziplines.

[ancient zinc]

Our immune systems are *ss

[glossy nymph]

Ohhh

[glossy nymph]

Wait......

Lowkey i almost killed myself

[stoic coyote]

bruh replying himself

[glossy nymph]

Not my fault gang

I am too busy studying for my exams.

[idle plover]

first time making something without someone's help, do i need something to make the grinding machines less full all the time

[stoic coyote]

meh

[lone bluff]

How will a splitter do that? I am understanding that it only does the split, not regulating items per time?

[stoic coyote]

the splitter has sequence in it, at 3 output it goes left-right-front, took like 6s

[glossy nymph]

Math 😮‍💨

[nova lodge]

1 splitter = 1/2 of a line
connect the line to the next splitter, and 1 goes to the protocol stash.
repeat
significantly reducing overall usage.

personally not good with utilizing the splitter sequence to my advantage

[lone bluff]

Yeah, so that slows it down a bit, but not much

Unless I am missing something

[glossy nymph]

Add more

[stoic coyote]

here a simple delay

[nova lodge]

^
1/2
1/2
1/2
1/2
1/2
1/2

baka to test to shokanju meme reference.....

[stoic coyote]

lmao

but yeah, the chain took over 40s of the battery

[lone bluff]

I see. I'll set up that assembly and see how much delay it provides. Thank you

[stoic coyote]

so my factory can go down to like 50%

until a battery feed in and pull it up to 100% again

[glossy nymph]

I got Hc battery stacked up to 60k :3 no need for delay.

[stoic coyote]

if it's went down to 0%, remove one splitter

[nova lodge]

its generally done for peps that wanna min-max wulling battery production, since we do have tons of space....

well i should probably give it a quick try

with a simple setup.

[stoic coyote]

Im not doing any math yet, just my instinct to do so

[glossy nymph]

Brb hungery

[glossy nymph]

The word math made me hungry for food.

[nova lodge]

someone's flying to hungary i see...

[desert hound]

your grinding unit can't keep up with your material input. you only need 1 sandleaf belt and 2 carbon belt. use the other somewhere else

[nova lodge]

[glossy nymph]

Yes my dog jonny.

[glossy nymph]

I'll be cheating with a cat behind his back.

Alr now it's just my weirdness kicking in.

[nova lodge]

you can get infinite food if you just
1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2,1/2 a cup of ramen. :3

https://tenor.com/view/anime-adam-apple-gulp-swallow-boy-gif-12055135408316066983

[stoic coyote]

no..

[lone bluff]

I build that configuration, but no batteries ever arrive at the Thermal Bank
They all go into the first PS

[nova lodge]

that aside though, gonna mess around with my AIC in wulling a bit, need to utilize the build in 200 energy charge to my advantage.

[timid apex]

Can someone help me pick a blueprint from the pinned comments or youtube? I just want a simple blueprint to trade and level up my outposts

Valley 4. Levels are 4, 2 and 1

[glossy nymph]

True. But when i tried my stomach said fk you. you cheap dumb ba****.

So i stoped my infinite food trick and switched back to normal.

[north moth]

Try this https://www.endfield.info/blog/arknights-endfield-blueprint-collection

[stoic coyote]

how

try 3 splitter first

[north moth]

if those on website doesnt work, here is another one. https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465637521148084247

[fervent stratus]

OK so the best Delivery on:

• Origin lodespring: 288K
• Power Plat: 310K

Unless there are better auctions (Science Park one... might as well do it yourself since it's only 177K)

[timid apex]

I literally need this, but for capsule B and or SC batteries

The first link also has a lot of terms I don't understand😅

Sanctuary core? Main core? Era's? Sorry new to the game

[nova lodge]

for valley 4, that's about it.

[north moth]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466419392631017554

[fervent stratus]

Now.... I swear if someone do something silly to decrease the integrity.... I prob blacklist them for later

[nova lodge]

there were, but generally most of the community won't have it happen.

[fervent stratus]

We have a guy in here who thought losing 30K from teleport is fine.... till someone add up how much he lost from 10 deliveries....

And there was someone who lost 50% of the 310K to someone messing up the delivery

[nova lodge]

well....if its a once or twice mistake, yeah sure, i am fine with it.
but intentionally doing that every time? nah.
learn to start setting up ziplines.
even peps on power battery crunch can do it.

[timid apex]

Thank you

[fervent stratus]

The guy who use the teleport for delivery used it every SINGLE time till yesterday lol (He also transfer all of his delivery out of laziness)

[lone bluff]

I take it back... I wasn't looking at it right. Actually, only 3 or 4 splitters total gives a good delay.

I think

[north moth]

There are a bunch of SC battery blueprints in https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1461542035617091681, just pick one depending on the area you have..

[fervent stratus]

This is that with 6 splitter and more power banks

The first bank eat like..... over 50% of the battery in your case
2nd bank eat like 9% and the 3rd bank get 1 once in a blue moon

[nova lodge]

then the no. changes once the 1st few thermal banks got full :3.

[fervent stratus]

Yeah but before that, the power get crippled

Might as well do even splits and just leave 150 batteries chilling in them

[nova lodge]

well, if its purely for a power generation setup, its fine to make that line super long.
not when you want to do a controlled battery usage though.

welp, gonna do some 'stonks' for a bit.

ok....today's wulling stonks were Shiet.

[fervent stratus]

0 damage 👍

[fervent stratus]

I took the 100% in case I get crappy rate tomorrow (Wuling can only hold 2 days worth of stock)

[nova lodge]

yeah, guess i should just stock up elastic goods for now.

[fervent stratus]

My Valley IV ones are straight up trash lol (Not a single one hit 200%+ for friends)

[simple fractal]

Hello, can someone help me out? im using Xslice's valley factory blueprints and I did it exactly as he did in the video, however when I followed it exactly my HC battery usage is higher than my battery production and it will eventually run out of power.

xlice*

[inland knoll]

this might be a rly weird thing to care about but does anyone know if theres a way to have a xiranite relay make a redundant connection
like in this example i just want that loop on the left to be joined up for aesthetic reasons but the auto-connect doesnt let you join them unless its the only path available

[simple fractal]

I've tried using kyostinV's one aswell and same issue

[shadow bolt]

Guys, How much forge of the sky can we places rn?

[nova lodge]

2

[shadow bolt]

Even when max reginal dev?

[nova lodge]

its tied to the wulling AIC tech tree as of current update.

[shadow bolt]

🥲

Any recommendations for Xiranite farm?

[cedar phoenix]

have you check your Yield of minerals ? do you produce enough of them too ?

[nova lodge]

mine might be overengineered but its good as a reference:
Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01a6517e003A1ou5e.

asia
30 max per forge.

[fossil spoke]

LMAO

[glossy nymph]

I have 1 question.

[eternal marsh]

maybe it looks better

[gloomy locust]

after 1 hour of 0 blueprint we finally got it

time to move onto wuling

[tall echo]

So I just got to Wuling and got this xiranite relay. From what I understand from the quick tutorial, the only difference with a normal relay is that I don't need to manually wire it and that it can't use the power from thermal banks. Is this right?

[nova lodge]

you can connect it as long as its within another xiranite relay in a 80m radius

or electrical pylon for that matter

no longer hindered by annoying wires / 30 meter restrictions

[tall echo]

Yeah but what worries me is that warning about not being able to access the power around the AIC?

Not sure if I'm understanding that right but rn I think it means thermal banks don't work on it?

[nova lodge]

what it means is that when near AIC / PAC area is that, xiranite pylon and relays will directly connect to you AIC, instead of the relays / pylons placed around the AIC area.

thermal banks can work as a connecter between 2 relay types....though why?
unless you want to swap from regular relays to xiranite relays midway.
(people just run xiranite relays for the whole map)

[frail mirage]

anyone know why my factory's originium ore usage is so much higher now compared to last week?

[nova lodge]

depends on what you had placed in your base.

[tall echo]

Ahhh so that's what it meant by "can't connect to other power facilities". Thanks!

[frail mirage]

i didnt change a single thing im pretty sure. it was working completely fine and now im not sure how to figure out what happened

[nova lodge]

time to check your base, you might had connected some additional belts to existing facilities for even greater yield

or some of your mining sites got depowered when you move your relays / pylons

[exotic void]

Do you think anyone would be insane enough to drain this by hand with bottles?

[frail mirage]

i think some of my mining sites did get depowered, but i fixed that already so it should be fine now right?

[nova lodge]

if you just fixed it, within the next 2-3 mins, you will start seeing your AIC report updated on the yield. (current data)

[frail mirage]

i fixed it yesterday so it shouldve updated already

[nova lodge]

time to look carefully what you are missing here and there.
oh, and you can do a quick check by just clicking on the mineral bed:

[nova lodge]

no one's gonna believe someone drained it all with bottles......unless they livestream for hours / record it.

[frail mirage]

im not sure what the days at the bottom means, but this was supposed to be my data

[nova lodge]

don't bother with that, that's just report no. for the past 1 day

set it to pass 10 min is good enough.

[shrewd sigil]

how to raise this?

[cedar phoenix]

that's what you've produced/consumed since x amount of time (here 1 day)

[nova lodge]

click it, then click this:

[compact gate]

i have still place in my valey pass area but it say that i cant place more building are we realy limited in the amount of factory per area? is it the same of 256 for all building zone ?

[frail mirage]

only thing i changed in wuling is i started eco farming, does that do anything for my originium usage?

[cedar phoenix]

the limit in protocol capacity is by area
and it take into account the ziplines and power poles you've placed in the area too

idk exactly how it's calculated tho

[nova lodge]

there is a limit within AIC area, but i forgot the amount for AIC / PAC (they are different, aic area is much bigger)
this is not counted for the protocol capacity usage within the map area.

[cedar phoenix]

oh

[round spade]

guys is this wall blocking the way or its just bad angel?

[cedar phoenix]

oh I thought it was the same limit tbh

[compact gate]

i mean this

[compact gate]

ah ok thanks

[rough crow]

how have yall set up your wuling farm for xiranite super early on

[round spade]

anyone know?

[nova lodge]

fyi, some buildings uses more protocol unit limit as well, like zipline pylons needing 1 (as i recall) instead of zipline towers needing 3.

[compact gate]

it doesnt count belt but it count bridge wich is annoying

[cunning obsidian]

i mean it wouldn't be that bad to do and i can see people hating the factory that much

[cedar phoenix]

@compact gate ok so this one is the number of buildings you've placed in the PAC/AIC
note that the convergers and splitters also count in this limit

[rough crow]

i made this to feed into whatever that new thing there is to make xiranite

[round spade]

is this for me?

[nova lodge]

possibly bad angle....i hadn't tested passing through the forcefield with zipline thus far.
(i got a feeling you can't)

[compact gate]

no

[cedar phoenix]

oh I didn't know that
that's good to know
so, like miners, lower quality ziplines are still useful (at least can have a use)

[round spade]

same

[nova lodge]

yeah, but generally its a none issue most of the time unless its power related.

[cunning obsidian]

why would they do this

and worse none of this is even disclosed

they dumbed down the factory a bunch (from what i've heard from beta peeps) but then do stuff like this

[cedar phoenix]

I'm almost at 300/300 on wuling city, and if someone do like me and place more power towers, I guess it can easily be reached there if you place 40/40 ziplines towers like me

(I'm at 297/300 rn)

[nova lodge]

^ very normal for wulling area.

[tall echo]

Btw is it normal that I can just use any region's depot when creating facilities?

[cunning obsidian]

my favoriate is there are two limits on building count and one of them isn't tracked anywhere you can see unless you hit it

[cedar phoenix]

too bad you can't make "routes" with lower quality ziplines..

[nova lodge]

yeah, its not possible to find the protocol limit usage (to my knowledge) until you place it.

[cunning obsidian]

and it seems to be different per area

[cedar phoenix]

honestly, I'm kinda surprised I didn't reach it in the Hub.. because I'm producing almost everything there (18 batteries + 12 bucks A per min)

I didn't even know about this limit, I though it was the capacity tbh

[nova lodge]

protocol limit, yes
the building itself, no.

[cunning obsidian]

how did you fit 12 bucks and 18 batteries?

wait i'm doing 24 bucks thats why so much space

[nova lodge]

update, sorry about the misinfo.
both towers and pylon ziplines requires 3 protocol unit and 5 power.
so no reason to use the worser ones unless you want to limit your zipline connections =.=.

[cedar phoenix]

I managed to fit them all in there

but there are some that did 18 bucks and 12 batteries even
and that's even harder to fit because buck take more space to do

[cedar phoenix]

oh

[cunning obsidian]

thank you for correction

[cedar phoenix]

then I'm kinda relieved
I didn't' want to change my ziplines in Wuling again x)
so no need to now

[cunning obsidian]

so weird that it needs 3

[nova lodge]

yeah, it does eat into the space extremely fast with full setup.

and pumps needs 2 as well....and since its not within the AIC area.....

[cedar phoenix]

here is what it look like from afar if you want x)

[nova lodge]

[cedar phoenix]

there is still some room but I cant really use it for anything

[somber bison]

Is there an ideal layout? I feel like the tutorials are not making very efficient use of my space

[nova lodge]

ideal layout = reducing belt usage + max delivery efficiency

a long belt isn't going to do anyone good.
but slowing delivery speed for the goods isn't good either.

[somber bison]

Yes, I’m aware. Is there a layout that someone has already developed that makes most efficient use of the space

[cedar phoenix]

the size of the belt isn't doing much honestly, just delaying a bit, but once full and flowing, it doesn't do much

[cunning obsidian]

each run of belt counts for protocol limit

[nova lodge]

example, not the best.
but its fine for me.

[cedar phoenix]

and I don't think it count for more buildings either (unless there are splitter/merger in it)

[nova lodge]

i can probably remove some pylons here and there, but ehhhh, a bit lazy for that atm.
the BP is easy to copy paste everywhere as well.

[cunning obsidian]

each 'section' counts

[nova lodge]

1 long belt = 1 short belt in terms of unit size for building limit within PAC area.
though you are gonna use more space and make your overall base looking clunkier ;v

[cunning obsidian]

YES BUT LONGER BELTS ARE MORE LIKELY TO END UP WITH A SPLIT

rip capslock

[cedar phoenix]

@somber bison then, there are some yeah

I tried a bit to do that I my Hub AIC
But even this isn't "the best"

from what I've heard, "the best" would be to do 15 Bucks A + 18 Batteries all in the Hub.. but that seem reaaally hard to do..
i've not seen it done anywhere tho, so i'm even sure it's possible

and the fact that you don't fully use some buildings will make you need more power so.. it's not really that good anyway

oh missping sorry

[tired shore]

people who do valley iv optimizations are really just bored

[cunning obsidian]

here is 24 bucks

[somber bison]

Just checking things off boxes

[lethal lotus]

The Engineering degree this game demands on a high level of optimization...

[round barn]

no more walking

[cedar phoenix]

you can't have enough input for 24 buck A tho ..
you'll be missing Ferrium

[tired shore]

its really easy to fit 18 buck a into your main aic, then you have 3 sub aic's to fit 18/min batts

[cunning obsidian]

technically its 12 bucks and 12 citrome

[cunning obsidian]

you can

[cedar phoenix]

yeah, you can also add up until 24/min citrome C (that only consume Amethist)

[cedar phoenix]

hmm.. so you don't have 18 batteries ?

[tired shore]

doing 24/min [C] IMO is actually a negative

[cunning obsidian]

no I do 1 purple bat line so 6

[tired shore]

cus you have to swap products more when selling :P

[cedar phoenix]

oh yeah, that's why then

[cunning obsidian]

and then loads of green bats to use up amethyst and ori

[ancient zinc]

[cedar phoenix]

that's true, and it's not even needed because you reach a point where it's the outpost that don't generate money fast enough

but it can be useful if you miss a day, to catch up faster for exemple

[cunning obsidian]

has anyone had issues with blacking out while at exact power use

[cedar phoenix]

I haven't been at exact power use yet.. so no

[static sonnet]

is it more efficient to make purple batteries or buckflower pills a

i've been making purely pills and only have two battery makers to power all of my bases in valley 4

[tired shore]

the popular way to do power starving is is kinda iffy

[glacial bridge]

chat does anyone have a starter wuling base that works ? i already set up the miners i had acces to in the first zone and although i love the factory building im lowkey kinda tired tonight

[tired shore]

you deal with resonances and cycles

the correct way to do it is with feedback loops

[fossil spoke]

just use the tools imo

[tired shore]

but nobody does this

[fossil spoke]

feedback loops ?

[cedar phoenix]

my setup has 17.25 (because I send Ferrium to Wuling for serringes) Buck A + 18 HC batteries + 18 Citrome C (for now buck, but I'll change that) in Valley

I don't do 24 Citrom C for Power usage reason, because I'll need to add another battery (even delayed), which mean less to sell

[lethal lotus]

I am struggling with energy generation in Valley IV. Any tips ?

[icy meteor]

which factory facilities do I need in endgame? I just finished Wuling story and I'm clueless. I used blueprints for my outposts in Valley. My main goal is to gear artificing and making money in Wuling via wuling battery/yazhen syringes. My Valley IV factory is quite early-mid game so I need to redo that one also.

[tired shore]

#1467843941297684480 message

see my post here

[static sonnet]

as far as i know the game literally does not give you enough things to make in endgame so you're fine with just producing batteries syringes and drinks

[icy meteor]

I'm also always running out origanium ore lol

[static sonnet]

even if you set up a single max efficiency line for each (except for batteries for which you can set up both) you will run out of ferrium for bottles

[icy meteor]

gotta unlock all the mines and set them up

[icy meteor]

yeah I'll use ferrium ore for metastorage

[cunning obsidian]

do bottles directly

or the parts

[icy meteor]

so I need a bottle/parts factory in valley IV?

[cunning obsidian]

metastorage

[static sonnet]

tbh it doesn't really matter since 1 ore = 1 bottle/part and you don't need to maximize space rn

[cunning obsidian]

bottles are 2 ores

[static sonnet]

are they?

[cunning obsidian]

but power

[static sonnet]

wait you're right

i learn something new every day

[cunning obsidian]

duping finished products is also duping power

[tired shore]

duping parts is better cus you need less power to make bottles

[cedar phoenix]

I think you can send twice as much Ferrium as you can send bottle tho

[cunning obsidian]

that is correct

but still saves 15 power

[glacial bridge]

chat does anyone have a starter wuling base that works ?

[tired shore]

duping parts = you save refining and fitting, duping bottles = you save refining and 1/2 molding

[static sonnet]

anyways can someone answer this

[fossil spoke]

can u make the explanation simpler? coz imo the 12 bits is more understandable than ur last post in that thread

[cedar phoenix]

so, it is useful to reduce power usage in Wuling, by transferring it to Valley, but that's pretty much it

[static sonnet]

i don't see the point in making batteries instead of buckflower pills

outside of powering

[cunning obsidian]

and also saving the space used on the parts

[cedar phoenix]

it sells well

[static sonnet]

they sell the same don't they

[cedar phoenix]

but you can do more total if you do both

[static sonnet]

why?

i figured it out

thanks

[cunning obsidian]

the min max is one purple battery line for power and loads of buck a

[tired shore]

what part do you not understand? all splitters take some belt and split it up in many ways

[cedar phoenix]

it's 3 lines of batteries and 3 bucks A and 3 (or 4) buck C

[tired shore]

by looping back, you get an exact splitter, instead of having to add up binary numbers

adding up binary leads to cycles and resonances. an exact splitter does not.

[static sonnet]

if im getting this right the purple battery requires 10 steel parts which take only 1 steel vs steel bottles which take 2 (and require 10 to make a single pill)

[tired shore]

maybe some day ill make a an actual tutoral instead of that short post

[static sonnet]

making 3 battery lines is he most efficient considering the amount of originium in valley 4, any more would start eating originium

thus you switch to buckflower pills after that point

[fossil spoke]

yes pls

[cedar phoenix]

yep

[static sonnet]

awesome

[compact gate]

AAA this game is a pain in addition to the building and the belt converger/spliter/bridge counting in the limit, belt system themself also count

[static sonnet]

what should the ideal power usage be

currently i think i can get away with 5-6 thermal banks all with purple batteries

[cunning obsidian]

green bats are better value compared to buck c

[cedar phoenix]

What do you do in this PAC to have this problem ? do you use a lot of convergers/splitters/bridges ?

[cedar phoenix]

depends on how many ziplines you have honestly

[compact gate]

not realy

[static sonnet]

no stone left unturned ahh power grid

[cedar phoenix]

I don't have a lot of ziplines in Valley (for now), so I managed to be ok with 4 banks with HC Batteries + 1 with LC Battery for power

[cedar phoenix]

that's.. kinda insane tbh xD

Have you placed Ziplines yet ? don't you have Capacity problem ?

[cunning obsidian]

I'm doing 4 hc, 1 lc, 2 ori

[fossil spoke]

@tired shore can we use 48 ?

2 x 2 x 2 x 2 x 3 ?

since its closer to target ?

48 - 45 is 3

[tired shore]

ah yeah, that also works

[fossil spoke]

i mean

any reason forr 54

[tired shore]

3x3x3x2 is one less splitter

[fossil spoke]

ah

[tired shore]

so technicaly we want lowest splitters to save the most room, but its not a big deal

[fossil spoke]

and in that pic

the bottom battery

is that the base power ?

stable 1600 ?

[tired shore]

yeah, i split the "return to depot" line, and feed a themal bank with it for stable 1600 power

[fossil spoke]

is this solution has no cons for now ?

like scaling issue or smth

[tired shore]

not really, its a perfect battery every X seconds

so for me i reach 100% power for like, half a second

then the thermal bank runs out

and then 180 seconds later another batt shows up

repeat forever

[cedar phoenix]

the only downside of doing something like this, is the message you get saying that you don't reach your power need anymore.. it's a bit annoying

[fossil spoke]

well, its for player that want to min max it

so...

[cedar phoenix]

yeah ik

but.. still

[fossil spoke]

even withou that battery saver tech

[cedar phoenix]

(I'm doing it too)

[fossil spoke]

single battery production on wuling (on 100% efficiency) alreadyy enough to get the bills

6/min is enough iirc

even after accounting the bonus operator too

on the subpac

[tired shore]

you need 7.5/s + 5.75/s syringes

[fossil spoke]

@tired shore , what if the target is the solution

[tired shore]

hm?

[fossil spoke]

50.28 / 4 = 12 smth , so 12

12 is 3 x 2 x 2

[tired shore]

then just use the 12 lmao

[fossil spoke]

[tired shore]

it would be like a a 48 instead of 50 (12*4)

so your technicaly a bit wasteful

you could do for higher denominators, but is it worth it?

[fossil spoke]

it doesnt need a loopback no ?

eh

wait what

40s * 1100 = 44000

44000 / 875 = 50.28

50.28 / 4 = 12

3 x 2 x 2```

im calculating for hc valley

[tired shore]

the way loopbacks work is that they get more precise as they split more

so for lower power needs ie 300w or something its better

but for higher needs, ie 800w on 1100w batt

you need to do summation

[fossil spoke]

[cedar phoenix]

it's still doable, but you'll need convergers too then

[fossil spoke]

the calculation is different ?

[tired shore]

right

[fossil spoke]

😭

[tired shore]

the calc i described is simplifed for the typical wuling situation of needing ~2k+ power

(why are you trying to save valley batts lmao)

[fossil spoke]

when u extend and polish the explanation, can u improve it for universal use case

[cedar phoenix]

by splitting in 3 and making 2 out of the 3 going in thermal banks for exemple (once you have a 1 in 40s battery on the belt)
you'll get 733.33.. energy

[fossil spoke]

coz im using that on wuling too

so if i can saves on valley

then its good

[tired shore]

[fossil spoke]

😭

why i feel this is a bad idea

[trim star]

use less battery

[fossil spoke]

easy to said, but uhhh

[trim star]

it's just balancing the base recharge rate with how much battery the ac has which is not math any human being should do without a calculator designed to do it

[tired shore]

(i did it)

its not that hard to understand, but you do need to like, sit down and actually think about the flows and numbers for a bit

[trim star]

there's really nothing much to think about

check drain, compare drain with surplus, check burn time

brute force until it works

that's why you want a calculator

[tired shore]

mmm thats the kind of thinking that leads you into brownouts.

[cunning obsidian]

i did the quick and dirty version of this

[tired shore]

your not considering the cycles and resonances

[trim star]

mf that's what im pointing out

[tired shore]

we only have a 100kw buffer, so you cant just only compare the average power of any splitter setup

[cunning obsidian]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/577587407809937427/1467472826117390513/image.png?ex=6989bc92&is=69886b12&hm=d20366ae1b1c822235a920db02ddb5e7baa1f832a9ac7d52b63745b147334bb8&

[trim star]

oh my god

alright im out

[tired shore]

lmao

[fossil spoke]

uhh what just happen while I was counting in the notepad