aic-factory

[nova lodge]

you can scan it to reveal how much remaining fluid is in the pool.

some pools just have stupidly big capacity and / or is visually stunning.

[cinder schooner]

Like what should I farm in this teensy place?

[crimson inlet]

I somehow filled it with a whole Buck A setup

kinda like this

[plain yarrow]

what even is the difference between high and low purity ore spots?

[nova lodge]

👆
do whatever you to maximize your base space.
enhance productions.

[runic epoch]

Glorious 40k jincao

[cinder schooner]

I made a buck A setup here too but decided to make a better setup and so i maxed out the place

Maybe i should make a buck setup?

[runic epoch]

20 on high
10 on low

[nova lodge]

👆

[cinder schooner]

How much buck A per minute is good for that place?

[plain yarrow]

20 and 10 what? ore per minute?

[crimson inlet]

6/min

make 4, and you get 24/min

[nova lodge]

yes

[cinder schooner]

Okay

Gonna sweat my brain out to figure things out

[mellow iris]

CAN I HALF THE OUTPUT FROM BELTS ETC? IF IM LIMITED ON ORES?

[nova lodge]

sure? gonna need to clean out the belt later though.

1 is via control port.
another is with splitter to move the product into another facility.

[timber phoenix]

Can I get 2 capsule setups in wuling?

I'm sending 1500 fero ore from valley

[mellow iris]

no i dont mean control how many items go through in total, but the items per second/minute

[runic epoch]

1 medicine line already takes 120/min if im Not misremembering

[weary ocean]

yh im doing that rn lmao

[nova lodge]

it works the same way, splitter pretty much half the amount shipped on to 1 lane into another facility

[nova lodge]

you are correct, 100% production requires 120 ferrium.
so still missing 5 ores there per min.

[fervent stratus]

For me, it's cause of my zipline network.... and this

I don't really rely on other's zipline much since those can disappear if I forgot to repair them

[cinder schooner]

Will I be able to make those buckflower loop and sandleaf loop within the place itself or should I use an unloader for it and make the buck and sandleaf setup elsewhere?

[fervent stratus]

If you have spare depot unloader, yeah

[nova lodge]

yeah, farms to take up a lot of protocol capacity requirement in wulling.

[nova lodge]

still gotta make the bottles.
so you will need unloaders.
so its up to you whether you want to join the buckflower loop into the chain or not directly.

[solid python]

I run 3 Buck A's. 1 in each Outpost. I never run out even when max selling.

[crimson inlet]

yeah, you can

you can either make a dedicated farm or have it inside the line

[dense olive]

when you check after 24h factory and see no production of injections, and Protocol stash looks like this

[runic epoch]

Gotta love my 5 ferrium deficit

[hexed raft]

guys what resources do i need to produce in AIC factory so i can make most usefull machines?

[solid python]

All the ores in the land

[hexed raft]

yeah but i alredy know i need origicrust, amatyst part and ferrium part but any other?

[umbral galleon]

12/min battery and 6/min syringe is max for wuling rn?

[runic epoch]

Yep

[umbral galleon]

oke

[fervent stratus]

I thought I can automate the Garden Rice when I found out I can get rice seed..... but then I found out it need to be farmed lol
Also, why dev give a big plot of farmland.... and put a limit on how many plot you can put down =_=

[runic epoch]

You'd need carbon for your planters

[hexed raft]

idk if i unlocked that yet but where is it?

[nova lodge]

pretty much it untill you reach wulling, where you shift to xiranite

[fervent stratus]

Plants into Refinery

[nova lodge]

mixed ores into steel for various other products.
or sandleafed amesthyst for cystons

[tall kite]

guys i have a question i had my AIC output give out ferrum bottles and buckflowers and joined all in one threadmill why doesn't my buckflowers leave the output?

[runic epoch]

Ss the production line

[cinder schooner]

Suppose if I converge 2 same product into a single belt will the single belt transport the same magnitude of those 2 belts?

[runic epoch]

It's limited by the belt speed so it'd function the same as 1 output

[cinder schooner]

So converging 2 in magnitude gives only 1 in magnitude, correct?

[mellow iris]

CAN I NOT SELL LC BATTERIES?

[nova lodge]

you need to show your build for us to find the issues.

[tall kite]

opening the game now

[nova lodge]

yep, so its 99% pointless to do so.

[nova lodge]

not for the other 2 outpost.

[mellow iris]

what other 2

[nova lodge]

infra station and power plant.

[mellow iris]

how do i unlock my second sub pac (the one after the valley pass)

[mellow iris]

but i only have main pac and the sub pac in valley pass

[slow bay]

Is it necessary to make Wuling batteries for any trade post? I saw some people commenting on it, and saving all Xiranite for gear seems better, no?

[nova lodge]

oh wait, you can trade at infra-station for LC batteriers, my bad
its the refugee camp that you can't.

[jade hare]

guys is it bad i wanna lose the 50/50 and pull laevatain?

[plain yarrow]

If however you have 2 belts that are both only 50% full it'd make sense to converge them
But realistically it might give you a headache later and the only real advantage is slightly more space

[nova lodge]

proceed more of the main story, at originum park, after passing the bridge, head south.
its shown on your quest screen.

[nova lodge]

your choice....

[runic epoch]

Wuling LC sells for the most stock bills in outposts

And you're extremely limited by ferrium in wuling so medicine production is not very efficient for 24/7 uptime

[mellow iris]

is there a place i can download blueprints to make every resource cause this factory thing is getting out of hand

[jade hare]

thing is tho i have her p4 and wanna max her out

[tall kite]

the last converger is where i have the buckflower the rest is ferrium bottles

[mellow iris]

eco farm?

[nova lodge]

pass that.

[nova lodge]

your buckflower output looks to be cockblocked by a splitter nodes.
just make 3 lines for 2 bottles and 1 buckflower

more lines depending on what you are producing.

[slow bay]

That pfp is really pretty.

How do you create both batteries and gear then? Or do you have to alternate one and the other?

[runic epoch]

You can
You'd just be sacrificing one battery line

[tall kite]

i removed all the ferrium from the line and it seems its getting blocked by the ferrium incoming from the converger

[plain yarrow]

The belts can only carry so much

[slow bay]

We can only have two sky forges, right?

[runic epoch]

There is that one fluctuating build that most people are doing

[runic epoch]

Yep

[tall kite]

ok but is it normal that NONE buckflowers pass?

i think it should be one third becomes buckflowers at least

[nova lodge]

even if there IS buckflower pass, it did be so minimal its not worth it.
are you using converger on your buckflower port?

[slow bay]

Something doesn't seem right. I currently have two sky forges, one xiranite component building, and one LC wuling battery building (which connect to a thermal bank), and currently I'm losing Xiranite

[tall kite]

yes

[plain yarrow]

Idk but generally why would you even converge 2 belts that have more than 100% belt capacity if put together, like that belt literally looks full before the first converger

[nova lodge]

then the direction is wrong i suppose.
but you will still rarely see buckflower on the line either way.

[tall kite]

i thought of later seperating the flow further ahead with control nodes, like in satisfactory

[runic epoch]

That's interesting
How does your battery line look like?

[tall kite]

hopefuly later on we get faster belts

[nova lodge]

this game doesn't work like satisfactory so.....
yeah, if we get faster belts, then maybe.
but don't use convergers.

[runic epoch]

Very extreme niche use cases for now

[tall kite]

ok got it, only use it for end products that arent 100%

[limpid badge]

need me some mk6 belts

[hexed raft]

we alredy got bluetooth thng but thats only for tranporting stuff between AIC areas

[nova lodge]

whoops, sorry my bad, mislooked.

[slow bay]

It's 60/min, so 30 each

[nova lodge]

sorry, too much chat, let me take a lookie again.

[runic epoch]

2 of your dense originium cubes are going into the protocol stash

[slow bay]

Yeah, using them for Xiranite components.

[nova lodge]

just make another line for xiranite components.....

[runic epoch]

You should just make another line for that

[slow bay]

I'm currently only using 1 battery to get energy, so that I don't use excess Xiranite and all goes to the Gear

[nova lodge]

anyway, use 1 line of xiranite for 6/sec wulling battery.
1 line of xiranite for 3/sec components.

that should total out to 30/30 xiranite usage.

[nova lodge]

just don't put the battery into depot?
let it clog up when connected to powerbanks.

not as effective but its far less annoying.

[runic epoch]

Well if you're not out to minmax your outpost stock bills
Your current setup is "fine" for your use case

[tropic gale]

Bro why is Endfield so stingy with codes

[plain yarrow]

Idk who needs this rn, but here, have a cursed "output"

[slow bay]

That's literally what I'm doing though. The packaging unit is only connected to a thermal bank, so that when the thermal bank is full there is no more xiranite consumption.
That's also why 2 dense originium cubes lines go to depots, because I don't need as many cubes.

What I don't understand is why with 1/4 of xiranite consumption on batteries and only 1 line of gear, I have such a high xiranite usage.

[nova lodge]

because the rewards are in the game?

[slow bay]

Sorry, meant to reply to Yuzu.

[tropic gale]

Dude I got every possible rewards that is in the game already

The last gift code we had was 3 weeks ago

[crimson inlet]

Arknights only give gift codes if Lowlight demands it or they made an oopsie

[slow bay]

Nevermind, I see why the consumption is that high. I have 2 xiranite lines for gears

[nova lodge]

☝️

[slow bay]

And one at 1/4 usage for batteries

[nova lodge]

was about to say this one.

gear production pauses at 3 per minusually, adding more originum and xiranite will make the ratio go off

(unless if you have excess xiranite of course...)

[plain yarrow]

Nice, first up why is this in the factory chat, secondly how did you enjoy etchspace salvage?

[runic epoch]

Oh yeah
You might wanna consider placing mines on the remaining nodes
Your current originium usage is not sustainable

[slow bay]

I have excess xiranite, but right now getting more gear seems more interesting than getting batteries for a post that is at level 1.

[nova lodge]

i do think AK should give more rewards, but doubt it needs to be in giftcode format.

[slow bay]

That's what I was doing until I noticed the abnormal xiranite usage

Now that I know why it's like that... I'll probably let it be.

[tropic gale]

Bcz I feel connected with them and I did not enjoy etchspace

[nova lodge]

you can i suppose? once the battery package clogs up fully.
usage mght fall below 60.

[runic epoch]

No this one is for real
You'd run out of originium if we're looking at the current stats

[near thicket]

That problem will fix itself pretty fast... You top out at 60 xiranite.

[slow bay]

@runic epoch if you see the xiranite lines it should never go below 60, so currently I'm losing xiranite. That said I doubt it'll be a problem considering the emergency energy

[ancient zinc]

HEEEEEEE!!

[slow bay]

I'm aware, as I said I was placing towers and rigs before coming to ask

[nova lodge]

well he did say he is going around digging up more originum nodes, so he should be fine.

[runic epoch]

[outer basin]

I'm so confused what's happening here. The only thing I'm making is Batteries at the moment. All I did was add a third line to the Power Plateau. The other two were stable for days, and I used the same blueprint for the Power Plateau.

[runic epoch]

Aside from that it's perfectly functional as a sole component generator so good luck on your artificing endeavours

[nova lodge]

artificing failure gonna be a pain

[near thicket]

I wish there w as hotkey for that screen. Also, that you could just limit it to one factory. It's hard to keep track of what is made where b/c my memory is the poop.

[crystal herald]

imagine it with male endmin

[near thicket]

I'm sure they'll expand the grindability later... -_-

[runic epoch]

Wait what's the issue here

[simple fractal]

Been trying to figure it out too

[outer basin]

Well I restarted the game and for some reason the graphs have evened out at least. I still don't understand why it's saying I'm trying to use 60 more Ferrium Powder than I'm producing.

[runic epoch]

Theoretical assumes full uptime

[outer basin]

I've checked the lines and nothing is being clogged or idle.

[nova lodge]

some of your building can use more to achieve 100% efficiency, so theoritical data is higher in usage.
but your active time shows you are fine.

[crystal herald]

seems you put an additional shredding unit which is not working atm

[slow bay]

My bad for not realising both lines of xiranite already consumed 60/min, I should've looked at things more carefully.

As for not generating enough Wuling bills, I'll deal with that later. My outpost doesn't even have any building yet

[runic epoch]

Most wuling setups just have everything in the main AIC

With that said
You could just turn off the component production

And make another battery line for stock bill gen

[nova lodge]

me so lazy atm.....
i made 1 line with 100% uptime for wulling battery.

then split the other line to provide for both gear and wulling battery 2 production facilities with about 33% efficiency.

too lazy to turn things off and modify down the line ;v

[slow bay]

I likely will, but not yet. I want to gear up a couple of teams first, especially while I level up the outpust. Do you know at which level they start wanting batteries?

[crystal herald]

you can make two 100% effi battery production tho

[runic epoch]

The batteries can be sold at the first level

[nova lodge]

still farming for gear component atm, not as much, but i would like consistent production for it.
even if its slower ;3

[crystal herald]

ahh i see

[warm quartz]

how do i get power to that left amethyst vein

[slow bay]

Isn't it better to go for the products with the thumbs up?

[nova lodge]

relay towers, and figure out the pathing.
also pylons in cave due to height limitation.

connect from the hub map area

[runic epoch]

The battery is the thumbs up

Assuming this is still about wuling

[slow bay]

No, at level 1 is a siringe thing.

[crystal herald]

move crane and there is a door you needa open or you can free fall and enter from the other entrance

[warm quartz]

i already have the door open, i was just talking about relays, thanks i'll try with the crane

[runic epoch]

As you can see
The battery sells for more

[slow bay]

That means nothing though.

The syringe are likely easier to make.

The thumbs up probably means they have a bonus, and when the batteries have them they're likely better.

[runic epoch]

In this case
No it's not
You'd be in a constant material deficit

[warm quartz]

the thumbs up means absolutely nothing

[nova lodge]

just get both ;v, they both uses different materials anyway ;v

[crystal herald]

oh the relay... there is a path you do some pakour and pass

[slow bay]

I thought they did

[crystal herald]

nothing special tbh

its just lore accurate thumbs up lol

[nova lodge]

if you know the distance, you can also reverse connect the relay towers (from a powered down one to a live tower) from a higher point to the lower floor.
saves a lot of travel distance.

[runic epoch]

It's what the game values as bang for your buck and what you'd most likely sell at that stage
As you get to outpost level 2 you'll see it switch to the batteries

[plain yarrow]

this factory is only using time, produces nothing 🙂

[nova lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[slow bay]

Isee. That makes sense.

[nova lodge]

this is gonna trigger ocd in some people.

[jade hare]

why is it doing that 😭

[turbid lance]

Just started planting in Wuling, and was disappointed that you cant fill the whole farmland

[nova lodge]

this huehue :3

[terse cradle]

Guys I just finished valley 4, and it's telling me to go to the next city(area), and I was wondering about the areas in valley 4 that has no main electricity pylon

Like Only the first 2 areas you unlock a main pylon,

[turbid lance]

You can snake relays from your factory zones to those areas

I.e.

[terse cradle]

Elaborate if possible please

[slow bay]

I was already thinking of buying Factorio after playing it for hours thank to my friend Jack, and Endfield isn't helping me

[pseudo quest]

me when i dont use wuling batteries because im a dumb dumb idiot who doesnt know how to get carbon

[terse cradle]

But aren't these pylons too tall? Especially in the area between these 2 sectors

[terse cradle]

.

[turbid lance]

Relays are the tall ones, pylons can fit usually

[terse cradle]

I love factorio but I stopped playing these types of games (I started endfield 😂😂)

[slow bay]

Unless I'm missing something, this is why I'm giving gear components more importance.

Bills help you get things like engraving permits, but at the end of the day that's RNG. Gear is fixed, and I can get bills in other ways.

[terse cradle]

Ohhhh

That makes sooo much more sense

I appreciate it

I thought the game just prevented you from using these between the areas

Thinking it was something that was quest locked

[turbid lance]

If you need power into tight spaces that relays cant fit, use pylons instead. They might have shorter wire range but they still can chain to each other

[cinder schooner]

My brain is toast

[willow meteor]

~30 copies for this... Oh my golly

[nova lodge]

dev says that its not oper world
proceed to make each section passable without loading screen. (and powerline connectible)
good enuff ;3

[runic epoch]

I had a fully functional 6/6/3 setup
You can indeed run a fully powered battery line as well as a component line

Just leave it running for a few days and you'll easily cap out

[cinder schooner]

My brain stopped working ugh

[terse cradle]

Will implement that into all the other areas in a bit, was literally doing random local quests trying to unlock the main power pylon just to now realise you can just pass a snake power line

The help is much appreciated

Thanks

[crystal herald]

damn bro's rolling the hard ones

[nova lodge]

welp....too many free space in wulling, time to do something stupid and make a plantation farm for unnecessary items

[runic epoch]

If I'm not wrong hot work's
Intellect uses bonekrusher as good match

[crystal herald]

if I am not wrong , main attribute doesnt apply

[turbid lance]

Anyone versed in planting in Wuling? Will this work?

[nova lodge]

i think it works just fine, just need to add a fluid tank at the fluid pump area to streamline distribution.
(since the sprinkler is not always up).

your operator might still get stuck on the sprinker occasionally though.

[shrewd knoll]

it works but it also doesnt work because it blocks the AI pathing

[iron stratus]

what's the order of materials to prioritize for my wuling factory when i just started out there

[nova lodge]

sandleaf productions.
xiranite
xiranite battery
xiranite components
yanzhen syringe + ferrium bottles

[turbid lance]

I can probably move the sprinklers one more tile, and added the storage water tanks. Either I'm not that miffed about AI pathing

[iron stratus]

and before that just repeat valley eg?

[nova lodge]

preparation for wulling AIC?
start shipping batteries over, preferably HC batteries

you can do that on dijiang
if you want more automation, meta transfer regional transfer for SC battery with 1 thermal bank should be fine at the start

[nocturne gorge]

Yea uh

[nova lodge]

welp, time to fix things

[nocturne gorge]

This good?

[nova lodge]

its not good if your yield isn't covering your usage =.=

[nocturne gorge]

It is rn

I kinda optimised

[nova lodge]

great, then as a start, i guess that is fine, you can optimize further once you unlocked 1080 ferrium production rates.

[nocturne gorge]

Gng ts aint a start 😭 That's like endgame v4 base

[nova lodge]

endgame v4 base should have 1080 ferrium yield....

i suggest you fix that 1st.

[near thicket]

You're making more than you need. You can dump the excess and save power or redirect mats to something else than can make better bills.

[nova lodge]

yeah, power usage optimization is another thing.

[nocturne gorge]

I alr have a good power optimisation

I am js trynna to max optimise it rn

So it's rlly stable

[near thicket]

Good=not wasting it on things you don't need.

[nocturne gorge]

I'll prob remove buck caps c farm

It's not rlly useful tbf

Also I'll get every mineral bed ig

Cuz lowk lazy to do that

[digital vessel]

Call me John Field cause I finally fixed my ecofarms NPC pathing issues

[nocturne gorge]

What's the point of that

Aint that thing trash?

[digital vessel]

now they all properly find fields to work on and it sped up planting and farming by 4 times

[nocturne gorge]

The ecofarm

[digital vessel]

depends on how much healing you want

[nova lodge]

ecofarm yields healing items that heal by %
and buff items as well

[near thicket]

What was the problem before? Do they not path under pipes?

[nova lodge]

good for endgame

[nocturne gorge]

Oh

[nova lodge]

they do, just that the buildings block ai pathing

[nocturne gorge]

Ye that's good lowk might set one

[digital vessel]

my fields were so close that my sprinklers and pylons would block their movements

[nova lodge]

his setup is good for current update, but not sure about future expansions.

[digital vessel]

what are they adding?

[nova lodge]

might expand more plot fields, but who knows.

[digital vessel]

PLEASE AUTO HARVESTERS

[trail mirage]

broke on ores

[digital vessel]

doesn't really matter, if they all crowd together the NPCs getting stuck is gonna be more of a pain than the plot loss

[nova lodge]

to each their own i suppose.

[digital vessel]

less time farming > more plots

[magic falcon]

in the stockade will turret weapons still fire at the enemies if your place the turrets on the 2nd floor?

[digital vessel]

you're able to place them there?

it would FS lower their range massively

[nova lodge]

yep, its near impossible to find wulling delivery job.

[digital vessel]

???

[mortal glen]

how do i get power the the amethyst mines?

[digital vessel]

what do you mean by delivery job? isn't that the depot node function?

[viscid chasm]

Anyone know why I have this issue?

[nova lodge]

depot node job that other people had shared for wulling region

[runic epoch]

It's time to start cable pulling from the hub

[mortal glen]

okay wish me luc

[nocturne gorge]

In which of those areas am I missing mines

[runic epoch]

Big fog on the top left

[nocturne gorge]

I think basically every one

[nova lodge]

this side, buy you need to unlock more puzzle piece to open the door.

[nocturne gorge]

I have that

[jade hare]

how do i use these boosts?

[digital vessel]

HE ACTUALLY DID THE PUZZLE AHEAD OF TIME

[runic epoch]

Well uh just walk in

The ores are just presenting themselves for you

[nocturne gorge]

I am pretty sure I got that

[quick rain]

i want to mass produce xiranite but i'm concerned about the energy usage

and i don't know where to start

[nocturne gorge]

Get batteries first

[runic epoch]

Import some HCs from valley 4

Start battery production

[quick rain]

hmm good point

but i need some originium ore...

[eternal marsh]

what's the yield on minerals when you got all the mines in use?

[runic epoch]

Valley 4 or wuling?

[digital vessel]

where valley IV?

[eternal marsh]

valley

[runic epoch]

560/240/1080

[eternal marsh]

ok

that one has a lot

I got everything then

thanks

[quick rain]

oh yeah and what nodes do i find in that area?

(and how to unlock it)

[nova lodge]

do main quest then side quest related to it.
and no, there is no node in that area.

[runic epoch]

Questline
Something stragglers grove

[quick rain]

i see

but first lemme put some mines on those nodes

well the nodes i alrdy unlocked

[runic epoch]

Is your wuling rdl 4?

Oh wait some of the ores are behind souls illusory walls

[nocturne gorge]

How do u get there

[nova lodge]

arknights endfield is a souls like game, trus ;;3
you can get punshied hard if you fail your dodge.

[nova lodge]

proceed the quest further.

[nocturne gorge]

The super crane?

[trim star]

demonic

[nova lodge]

yes, but really, just do your quest.
the map will unlock as it progress for a lot of the area.

the only place with no quest notification is the area north of the THE HUB map.

[quick rain]

3

[nova lodge]

nice, effectively free ;3

[crystal herald]

what a luck

[cedar bay]

Anything people would recommend making in Valley with the resources I have remaining?

[trim star]

battery

also level your depot nodes

[nova lodge]

battery, buck A.

[cedar bay]

Do I need to hold more than 66000 of an item

[trim star]

no but more daily income is nice

[cedar bay]

Yeah I'm lazy I only do the depot run in Wulling anyway.

[crystal herald]

max will be 80k

[trim star]

send them off to other people

[eternal marsh]

are there units that fit all 3 on any of the bases?

[trim star]

only for a few outposts

[nova lodge]

yes.
err wait, no, hadn't seen all 3 light up

[crystal herald]

laevatain for refugee

[earnest steeple]

Laev, Yvonne, gilb

[eternal marsh]

oof

[nova lodge]

all limited characters

[eternal marsh]

ok so the 3 limited lol

[crystal herald]

damn ok

[nova lodge]

[trim star]

you dont need all three of them at once anyways

you only need one

as long as you can get all 3 individually it doesnt matter too much

[cedar bay]

I'll see if I have enough resources left to make another purple battery that'd be nice

[trim star]

you do you just need to get one more ferrium node

[eternal marsh]

I think the 3 buffs only affect 1 area

[trim star]

aware, but you only need one at a time always because you could always just swap them around

if you really cared then maybe you need one for both the 20% prosperity and the 20% gain when trading but it's not a big deal

[eternal marsh]

ah I see what u mean

[trim star]

https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en this is a really crazy tool to optimize battery use if yall cared about that (i dont really but this was really cool so i ended up doing it lmao)

[fossil spoke]

well uhh about that.....

[nova lodge]

its really cool indeed....but that is min-maxing to a whole new level

[fossil spoke]

anyway welcome to the strat bro

[nova lodge]

[fossil spoke]

if u want a place to discuss more u can join https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1469163037876555954

[trim star]

yeah i saw the bit machine but i looked at it and noticed it would just fail

so i did more research

and found that

[fossil spoke]

no no no, the continuance for the discussion is the DIGE

scroll down

[trim star]

ik i scrolled

[nova lodge]

bonsai of life....isn't this just bonsai of cancer instead.

[trim star]

golden bough

[fossil spoke]

16 M

well

I can sink my valley bills there

[nova lodge]

they are fine collectibles :3

[fossil spoke]

anyway, it feels good the first time I can buy all artificer in a week

[trim star]

i should probably not use protocol stashes to loop back

and use convergers or belt bridges instead

whatever im not changing it for a while

[solid python]

Valley stocks are going into credits for me

[fossil spoke]

u should use stashes, I've already experimented with it

in some configuration, the return will be fast enough to make it clogged

just use stashes as intended

[cinder schooner]

I finally made the 6/m buck capsule A on my own

[trim star]

i mean you're meant to power the stashes

lol

[cinder schooner]

Though idk I still have space maybe i should remake it?

[proud robin]

Congrats

[fossil spoke]

no, turn it off like a buffer, (but tbh idk why the creater want us to turn it off)

[proud robin]

Now comes the fuuniest part

Optimization

[fossil spoke]

but I understand the choice to use the stash

[trim star]

the choice to use the stash is to optimize building limit

im not even joking

as long as one battery hits the converger every 2s any machine that sends batteries back will work

[fossil spoke]

its for buffer too, since like i stated before when experimenting with some power budget, the splitter configuration will return the battery fast enough that makes the return belt clogged and break the timer / pwm

[trim star]

using stashes is because they're easy to work with you can throw three splitters in front of them and they dont spam buildings

[trim star]

if you're doing return loop that's the goal

[fossil spoke]

when the splitter get clogged even once, the timer breaks, since it work as round robin

[trim star]

you need to fully saturate the converger at the beginning so a new battery rarely only gets sent in every time one gets used

[fossil spoke]

so dont ever make it clogged

[trim star]

xd

that's not how convergers work

[fossil spoke]

huh ?

[trim star]

convergers prioritize taking from belts always

[fossil spoke]

the DIGE never mentioned converger.....

for the middle input belt

[vernal night]

what's the best thing to mass produce to get a lot of valley stock bills

[nova lodge]

Buck A caps, HC batteries

[fossil spoke]

the converger only used for the output belt side

[proud robin]

Back A capsules and HC batteries

to be more specific 18/min of both

[vernal night]

thanks

got a blueprint for 18/min?

[trim star]

one sec lemme just get onto a base and make an example

[cinder schooner]

So i should remake? 😭

[fossil spoke]

even on the diagram, they never use converger for the input

unloader / pac output -> splitter directly and avoid 1 belt space

[proud robin]

a wise man once said: if something works, dont touch it
buuut when it comes to this Game if You have some empty space You may wanna check it out

[cinder schooner]

Maybe I'll make a mini lc battery farm

[nova lodge]

sure is having issues getting my team to lvl 80.....gonna need to farm some more.
my sanity!

[cinder schooner]

Or make more power using originium since I have a depot unloader left out

[trim star]

do you see how these two setups are equivalent

[fossil spoke]

yeah u can simplified it using the top one

[trim star]

yeah that's my point

i should be doing that cause i dont have vertical space

[fossil spoke]

well, if it work the same, create a GH issue on that DIGE tagged "Suggestion"

but, tell me, how converger works

[trim star]

machines will never prefer to send into a converger

as belts take priority

think of them having "internal slots"

if any slot in the converger is full, the machine will not send to the converger

[fossil spoke]

from which side first ?

since u have 2 input there

[trim star]

the belt

[fossil spoke]

from pac and from belt

[trim star]

belts will always fill that internal slot in the converger first

preventing the machine from filling the converger

[cinder schooner]

Might've made this too compact that made me get a chunk left? Idk

[fossil spoke]

so belt always fill before pac ?

[trim star]

this results in both good and bad interactions

yeah

[fossil spoke]

and this always true in every configuration ?

[trim star]

yes

if you wanted to make a ratio machine for example

to belt balance

say, send 5/6ths of the item one way

you must avoid placing a converger next to a splitter

because it will break the ratio

[fossil spoke]

so we need to space them

[fossil spoke]

like 1 belt at minimum ?

for that problem of splitting ratio

[trim star]

exactly

anyways this is the reason they use stashes

it's because this will cap building limit super fast

lol

[fossil spoke]

wait

lets say we output item of 10

lets say we have 10 battery from pac

[trim star]

lemme grab a few screenshots from when i was trying to figure out my 5/6 splitter in wuling rq

[fossil spoke]

<@&956153874383781928>

thanks

[cinder schooner]

What did i miss?

[fossil spoke]

usual discord scam

[cinder schooner]

Oh bruh

[trim star]

all three of these balancers should work in theory

but only the first image works properly

[outer basin]

Okay, I'm going freakin crazy. My math isn't mathing. I want to use all my Amethyst (240/min) to make Buck Capsule C. What ratios of facilities do I need?

[trim star]

this is because when an item gets sent through the system, in the other two configurations, there is always at least one instance of a converger receiving an item at the same time as a splitter could be sending to it

[fossil spoke]

yeah

[trim star]

isnt it 1:1 for buck capsule c

yeah the same goes for outputs

so if you tried to use a depot unloader into a converger at the same time a belt is feeding an item to it, it wont send an item out

[outer basin]

I did that but things were getting clogged.

[trim star]

thus the system will always work, it's meant to clog like that

it's just the machines you're using

[trim star]

from what

[fossil spoke]

ah, so u meant the clog side is from pac

since if the clog side is the return belt, it will break the pwm

[trim star]

yep

[sand shell]

oh i didnt see the channel for this

[fossil spoke]

bcoz the splitter for the timer wont work as intended

i see

ok, more question then

[trim star]

as long as the converger is receiving a battery every 2s it will always work

[sand shell]

why is there a 256 limit on conveyors?

[trim star]

memory issues prob

[fossil spoke]

why the dige creator strongly stated for the stash to be unpowered or in storage mode

[trim star]

storage mode is probably what they intended for it to do

[fossil spoke]

why not just use the depot mode since it can return it every few seconds

we can save 2 row of space (from removing return belt for both sides)

[trim star]

you can use the return mode

it works exactly the same

in fact you remove the need for the converger at the beginning

but it spends power

that's why you dont use it lol

[bleak frigate]

When you stash grid or facility every material is destroyed right how bad

[fossil spoke]

AH

then we need to take the power usage into account

[trim star]

yeah

[fossil spoke]

I FORGOT THAT PART

since the diagram is given to us from the tools after the calculation

[trim star]

so suddenly you're using 5, 10, 15... more power and it'll mess up the calculations

[fossil spoke]

YEAH

NOW I UNDERSTAND

[sand shell]

do you think they'll raise it later if enough people complain?

[trim star]

probably not

map long pipe

lmao

[sand shell]

brooooo

[fossil spoke]

tbh HG, pls add drone port just like on factorio

[sand shell]

conveyors should be able to cover a fully upgraded sub pac

imo

[trim star]

just make a bunch of conveyor circles

or smth fun

idk

you can extend a belt's length by attaching a belt bridge

so not a big deal

[fossil spoke]

yeah, like someone that sent an image earlier to this channel covering part of his pac with a snail house patern of belt

[runic garden]

How can i tell what is using up my originum ore in my factories? its going down in the depot but idk whats using it

[cinder schooner]

Are u using them for power supplies?

[fossil spoke]

this is the bad things about this game factory mode, we cant filter the usage

check ur outpost 1 by one I think ?

or someone might had better solution

[sand shell]

for example this thing maxxed out the limit when it would only cover around half of it, and the other conveyors i have cover a quarter

[proud robin]

100 hours+ played, prob Most of them on the factory, yet i don't know what the actual fuck im looking at

[sand shell]

if you get wim

[runic garden]

I was but I turned that off. Right now it says my current usage is 30/min but I cant find anything using it

[cinder schooner]

Because I once used them for power supplies and my originium ores went nil lol

[sand shell]

i really hope it gets raised

[trim star]

lmao wtf

i see what you mean

[cinder schooner]

Check ur posts there must be something using rhem

[trim star]

yeah that's the building cap i was mentioning earlier

[cinder schooner]

I mean it's not wrong if something's using them up

[hearty walrus]

How do I use Wuling depo bus? What is it used for?

[cinder schooner]

Add more mining sites

[sand shell]

yea 🙄

[cinder schooner]

I added more mining sites and my ores started to flourish more than usage

[trim star]

gray is converger, it sends where the gray points
orange is splitter, it receives where the orange points
belt bridge is yellow it's just belt bridge

[cinder schooner]

So

[cinder schooner]

Wut dis

[runic garden]

I will, I was just hoping there's a way to find out what's actually using them from my depot. I looked everywhere in my factory lol. It seems everything is turned off but it's still using it up. I guess there's no way to click on it in the report and see where the consumption is coming from?

[proud robin]

so, now in English, what is the function of all that

[sand shell]

im complaining abt the building limit cuz i spent an hour on that

[trim star]

in the case of maximizing wuling, i did a rough calculation which yielded that i needed some at least 11/min battery

[faint rivet]

which yielded that i needed some

[trim star]

however i dont want to make purely batteries for artificing sake and i dont want to run on deficit so i wanted to do a splitter that sends one item every 6 sent items

[faint rivet]

😳

[proud robin]

Wow

[trim star]

this results in 11/min batteries to 0.5/min components

so that's the result of messing around with the configuration of machines until i got around the converger logic

it's pretty chill

[proud robin]

pretty impressive imo

[faint rivet]

i dont mean to embarrass you but the things youre saying dont make sense

yielding means give

[trim star]

any multiple of 2/3 can be worked around pretty easily

cause think about it if you just put two splitters in a row etc etc

it's just how to merge the lines afterward that's annoying

[runic garden]

I found it phew! Can you recommend the most basic way to automate increasing power? Or is it more complicated than that? I keep messing up by having stuff run out while making batteries etc.

[trim star]

you can manually fill thermal banks

when you're planning on reworking your base or expanding it's always a good idea to just throw in a bunch of excess power until you finish the setup

[cinder schooner]

Lemme see

[magic falcon]

I advise using watching your acutall yield and usage and make sure your not going over.

[cinder schooner]

Since imI'm currently in like just around lv42 I didn't mind much about endgame stuff so I made a simple yet effecient lv battery supply

[trim star]

oh then yeah

i mean just bring up aic report look at numbers

[runic garden]

Yeah I have to be better about that lol but it's juggling that along with everything else

[cinder schooner]

Idk what and how endgame people setup their power supplies to put because everything so massive so idk where they dump batteries

[trim star]

you should calculate backwards from what you want to make to how much resources it will take

[cinder schooner]

Exactly

[trim star]

so let's say you want to make blue batteries

it takes 3 dust and 2 parts

so that's 3 originium outputs and 2 ferrium outputs

[cinder schooner]

I did the same thing for capsule A supply

[fossil spoke]

imagine if endfield has manageable port / bypass so I can just turn on the bypass and it bypass the whole oscillating system when I upgrading my base

[trim star]

and that results in 90/s originium and 60/s ferrium

[trim star]

can we make control ports do stuff for us instead

like send an item every 48s

[fossil spoke]

that will make the pwm system much much much more simple

like

[trim star]

surely future aic technology will expand logistic devices

[fossil spoke]

the biggest size would be 3x3

[trim star]

[fossil spoke]

since u need only control

and batt

[trim star]

tech tree please

[fossil spoke]

did u think we will get faster belt ?

like

[trim star]

probably not unless stuff starts getting made faster

id imagine they might do that like a general upgrading of the lower tier machines

[fossil spoke]

yeah, but then what will they improve on logistic side

[trim star]

but it's also pretty unlikely

[spice tartan]

Incase you forgot those existed like me for 2 weeks
put one there and in Wuling

[trim star]

lol

i have 25 stashes on me constantly i think

[fossil spoke]

we still at the first 2 region (wuling not completed yet) and if the belt logistic side keep staying like that the whole game........

[trim star]

id imagine they wouldnt make stuff absurdly complex to make

to cater to like the majority of thw playerbase who cant do factory stuff

[fossil spoke]

then at some point, the factory content will become too shallow

[trim star]

yeah really that's gonna be how it feels

[fossil spoke]

no offense but...

if they gonna make it like that

[trim star]

new region, optimize new regional resource, ignore

[spice tartan]

Also, I just discovered on this field (the one in wuling create pathing problems for the allies with the Sprinklers)

I Germinate 1 Field and wait and they do the rest
I water 1 Field and they water and wait and they do the rest

[sand shell]

Why has nobody tried making the most NON OPTIMAL factory for everything??

[fossil spoke]

why bring the factory aspect into this game

[trim star]

we do stuff like making stuff inefficient on purpose

[sand shell]

i dont see it

[trim star]

in order to use a specific amount of resources or stuff

[spice tartan]

Just a different Gimmick per continent then

[cinder schooner]

This is what I did for my power supply

The supply never dropped for me. Maybe because I'm just using 2.18k power ig lol. But my max never dropped below 4.5k so ig it's okay for now

[jade hare]

how do i use these boosts?

[fossil spoke]

iirc someone use the timer for the battery optimizer into a pill making factory

and it create like 1 per hour roughly

[sand shell]

THAT'S what i'm talking about

🥹

i need these strats

[trim star]

the boost gives you back a seed when you collect it

[fossil spoke]

💀

[trim star]

which is actually really nice

[jade hare]

oh I see

[trim star]

i made this like the least optimal it could be

i could've literally just moved the stash over lmao

[sinful wind]

does anyone have a xiranite blueprint?

[copper ferry]

is it more efficient to have manufacturing lines pull in raw resources or have a separate production area for refined materials and then have w/e facility it is pull already manufactured materials directly from the depot?

this vs just pulling parts and orig powder directly?

[limpid shale]

I kind of did

[sand shell]

I hope to have a factory like this too

[potent wyvern]

I’ll be honest

You can definetely optimize that setup

I can show you how

[limpid shale]

Ohh that's the old one my bad

[potent wyvern]

HUH WHUH

[sand shell]

but thats like one thingy a minute, no?

[trim star]

it is optimal to always make everything from raw materials

[sand shell]

That sounds like too much profit

[limpid shale]

I mean 1.4k bottles per minute is indeed too much

[sand shell]

It's not one bottle a minute?

Oh right

The thing on the right

Yea no

Thats a GOOD factory i think

I need less than 1 a minute

[runic garden]

Thanks thats very helpful 😄

[sand shell]

✌️ 1 every 2 minutes

[trim star]

you just gotta split the input 600 times

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1465337504629788775/1465618379284156428/image.png?ex=697db77b&is=697c65fb&hm=0f31f8cae9149fc910da79b6afea4bb2ca7ff83794deb190b8110012e37c15d6&

[cinder schooner]

Reminds me of a certain history

[trim star]

this would only take like 4 splitters or smth

[trim star]

ok i get it but like it's genuinely such a reach

[limpid shale]

Is that a concentration camp in the middle?

[trim star]

limbo for xiranite component

[granite sentinel]

Is there a list of prosperity 4 goods anywhere?

like what you can trade to each level 4 outpost, I'm not there yet but I want to plan ahead

[trim star]

uhhhh

hc battery buck capsule a canned citrome a

that's like the most notable

then they have a generic list of items like the lower tier batteries and meds and then a resource

the list does not change from l3 to l4

[granite sentinel]

oh, it's the same, that's helpful

[cedar bay]

There not much more I can get from Valley 4 production now right?

[proud robin]

i love how everyone tought about the exact same thing after seeing this

[still zinc]

anyone have a buck capsule c factory bp?

[proud robin]

why's your Yield 480 and not 560

not max regional?

[trim star]

ive sent this a couple times in here

bus circle

[proud robin]

lol

[trim star]

depot capped

[proud robin]

i see

[trim star]

also ferrium should be 1080

not 1060

so something is missing

[proud robin]

yeah

[trim star]

ok gonna chill

when i get back on i have to somehow get enough tcreds to finish building stuff

not happening

[olive basalt]

how am i supposed to get a steady supply of carbon for xiranite
do you suggest that i do a plant loof for like, buckflower or something and sandflower

because im going to need sandflower and carbon

[fossil spoke]

plan jincao or yazhen

then burn them

since that plant loop give 2 plant each

smaller than the valley iv counterpart

[hidden turtle]

what is the unit price for canned citrome A?

i saw a blueprint for some impossibly high yield production line

it can't possibly be this good right?

[fossil spoke]

70

[hidden turtle]

when do you unlock the option to sell it?

[fossil spoke]

iirc on last level of the outpost ?

I might be wrong

[olive basalt]

is there a blueprint for xiranite?

[hidden turtle]

is it better to make than buck A capsules?

[fossil spoke]

imo no

[trim star]

they are literally identical

lol

so just do whatever you feel like

[fossil spoke]

I dont have it sadly, I built mine myself and its doesnt have all part in the same place

[hidden turtle]

identical as in production lines?

i need to check

[trim star]

yes

you just swap the red flower for the yellow flower

[fossil spoke]

oh, its similar literally similar ?

[hidden turtle]

holy shit i have zero braincells

i literally have a blueprint for it

but i decided to waste 40 mins setting up a line that gives me 1 buck A per minute

[olive basalt]

i also need sandflower dont i

[trim star]

lol

when i was getting to the 1/10s setups i kept doing my ratios wrong

[fossil spoke]

for xiranite ? yeah

only for the dense carbon

for the carbon itself, use wuling plants

[olive basalt]

Hmmm can i make enough to ensure that i get both sandflower and carbon

[fossil spoke]

for space efficiency

[hidden turtle]

i just found out about the high yield blueprints yesterday

[fossil spoke]

iirc, it only need 2 sandflower generator

lemme ss mine

[hidden turtle]

placed one down and it immediately sucked my power reserves dry

[cinder elk]

Anyone have a clean farm sprinkler setup so the AI doesnt get stuck on structures..

[fossil spoke]

@olive basalt

[trim star]

one plant makes two carbon which makes 2 dust each so you just need a sandleaf loop and a wuling plant loop on either side

[odd cedar]

just put them in a circle? o.o

[fossil spoke]

2 sandleaf loop

i cant optimize it more

[nova imp]

there's no way to auto craft these 3 meds?

[trim star]

yeah one per side

[fossil spoke]

ah

[fossil spoke]

nope,

use the backpack crafting feature for now

spam click it

[nova imp]

rip. ty

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1465479359891771585/image.png?ex=69891382&is=6987c202&hm=d14ce8e83fdabee45a2090d3c1339121c85869b7b83886b0927d3c1c6e2f8f97&

[still zinc]

HOW can i move my depot bus line in the main pac?????

[fossil spoke]

this one is self contained ?

[trim star]

yeah

[fossil spoke]

u can move the depot bus line on wuling only

[hasty nacelle]

how can i increase the amount of forge skys i can make

[fossil spoke]

no cant do on valley

[trim star]

you get 2 and you need to prog story and then level it in the tree

[fossil spoke]

unlock the tech tree

atm the max is 2

[hasty nacelle]

oh i`m blind ty

[nova imp]

is farming the only way to mass produce firebuckle?

[trim star]

yes

[nova imp]

k

[olive basalt]

i think ill put the planters in the sub pac then the main stuff in the main pac bro

i have a rough idea of what i wanna do

[fossil spoke]

uhhh thats literally my way to do it, gl

or u can do self contained like disq design

[fossil spoke]

this one

[olive basalt]

but it feels like the factory will be too large if i did that tbh

i want to save my wuling bucks for engravings

[trim star]

there's not enough resources to come close to filling wuling

lol

[fossil spoke]

yeah

my main pac on wuling

can be used to play a soccer games

😭

[olive basalt]

lol

surprisingly cheap

[olive basalt]

btw ive been doing zero production

[mortal plinth]

https://tenor.com/view/needy-streamer-overload-kangel-breakdown-gif-13926541437347279110

[olive basalt]

all that money is from wallstreet

[mortal plinth]

when you dont connect one conveyor belt

i was wondering why my battery production seemed slower

[trim star]

beautiful

[crisp stag]

man this factory mode truly confuses me

[olive basalt]

Shiiiiit

depot buses can be placed anywhere?

[crisp stag]

i got the materials to produce the battery but SOMEHOW there's something slowing the creation process

either i have to much sandleaf powder

either the originium powder is producing slowly although I have some

shi that doesn't make any sense to me

is this normal y'all ?

[mortal plinth]

show an image of production

[glad prairie]

just check the lines that are stopping
common issues are you are outputting extra materials into a depot (not the base) and its overflowing so the line stops or not producing enough materials for the craft to run at max capacity

[mortal plinth]

yes, usually you'll have a building or two that are idling too much, you want every single production building to work constantly.

[calm crow]

Bottlenecks? Yeah, the factory system is too small to make a full 100% optimization

I need half of Wuling city to maximize output for only xiranite

[glad prairie]

that is no where near enough material to run batteries at max capacity

[mortal plinth]

you have WAY.....WAYYYYY too little stuff

[crisp stag]

i thought that was the process of building it...

[glad prairie]

you need to triple the originium squares output and double the steel output

[mortal plinth]

yes but those machines need more materials than you give them

[calm crow]

Yeah, but add more outputs to increase the rate of manufacturing

It's either you have too little that it slows down, or too much that your bottleneck is the manufacturing machines itself

[mortal plinth]

this is my production line, and every single building you see is needed to make HC batteries at highest efficiency

[crisp stag]

da fook...

[calm crow]

You can dump so much in battery manufacturing, but your biggest bottleneck is the 10s cooldown of the packaging station

[calm crow]

Now that is optimization

[glad prairie]

biggest bottle neck is not having enough mining nodes to make more factories without losing material OTL

[crisp stag]

brother how tf am I suppose to craft all this...

[mortal plinth]

i designed it all on my own 🥲 its my pride and joy

[calm crow]

Spend some time learning how belts and water pipes work, then make that big spaghetti

[mortal plinth]

i...i dont think he got to water pipes...

[calm crow]

Oh, he's not in Wuling?

[glad prairie]

just do it one at a time like you are doing right now and then fit stuff into a smaller space later

[calm crow]

Mb homie

[mortal plinth]

im not there yet either lol

[calm crow]

Oh you will love and hate it lol, you have water pipes to deal with

[crisp stag]

I think imma go lvl up my characters for now... ts is so confusing rn

like

[glad prairie]

worse comes to worst you can always just copy people's blueprints

[crisp stag]

what the clustery fuck is this

[calm crow]

Take your time lol, dedicate like, 1 whole day into factory making

But you can also just get people's blueprints. Just check if your server is Asia or Global

[mortal plinth]

it gets a lot easier after you understand the process, like...for example shredding sandleaf gives you 3 sandleaf powder, that means you can have 3 belts giving out sandleaf from a single shredder, while other things that give only one, only need one belt.

[crisp stag]

well I do remember my bro saying that using a triple line for production could increase the production of materials so...

[calm crow]

It's either you use every port and hole, or compact that together like meatballs

[mortal plinth]

grinders need 1 sandleaf each to operate so with 2 shredders you already got that demand met.

the other stuff however, you need a lot more buildings, cause they dont give out as much materials

[calm crow]

Manufacture as many bombs as you can though lol

You will need it for both Valley IV and Wuling

[novel topaz]

i have all of the mining spots down, why is my ferrium not at the max output?

[mortal plinth]

you bet. does wuling have their own type of bomb too?

[fossil spoke]

do the wulfgard side story

[glad prairie]

I wanted to ask whats max stock bill output atm? im producing 105k ish stock bills worth of material but lvl 4 bases are making like 110k stock and im having trouble keeping up

[calm crow]

Nope

[fossil spoke]

then place the drill on the extra mining spot

[mortal plinth]

running low on bombs ngl...

[mortal plinth]

thats unacceptable

[calm crow]

But you do get a water gun that will push the Blight away

[mortal plinth]

cool

so endmin can become hydro traveler ig

[novel topaz]

i did that one too, i have all of the spots. i went to an interactive map and checked everything over again

[calm crow]

You also need a separate manufacturer for the Nuclear water, that's where the water pipes come in

[fossil spoke]

check if one of ur drill spot received power or no

[mortal plinth]

nuclear?........

[shrewd knoll]

blight is weak against soda, since xiranite is literally carbonated water

[mortal plinth]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[marble yarrow]

are you regional level 11

[calm crow]

Long story short, you are going to create a material that is basically synthetic Originum. And this synthetic material is used for the city's defenses and stuff. And it's also green water

[mortal plinth]

Chadministrator is gonna dump all the pollution on wuling city, he doesnt care,

[nova lodge]

its mountain dew regular flavor.

[finite fiber]

just gonna ask, what's the important materials and outputs needed for the endgame in valley 4?

[crisp stag]

the originium powder is producing only one per rock so... I need to plug in 3 staches that could give a rock per stach (that would make me three originium powder technically)

[novel topaz]

10

[crisp stag]

and same goes for the ferrium ore

[shrewd knoll]

i thought it was burden beast infused poop soda since its made in the same facility

[crisp stag]

so i need to increase both the ferrium and the originium production

[mortal plinth]

yes but actually no, you need 6 because the grinder takes 1 sandleaf and 2 origocrust

[trim star]

well said

[calm crow]

When the grinder has to double time

[marble yarrow]

try to get to 11 since that upgrades power plateau purity

[nova lodge]

i don't think you can refine burden beast poop atm?
there just isn't any recipe for it?

[shrewd knoll]

you can at the forge of the sky

[mortal plinth]

See?

so you need 3 belts going into the grinder to make this

[nova lodge]

ohhhh, i should go check it out :3

since its been nothing but xiranite for it ;v
thanks for the info.

[crisp stag]

do you use staches in order to put three belts of ferrium/origocrust ?

cause I need to know the optimal way to produce more

[nova lodge]

but yes, poop enhanced xiranite mountain dew flavor ;3

[mortal plinth]

no, just the Bus Depot unloaders which you also used for yours , but i give you a tip, cover the bus with unloaders, dont leave any gaps, thats wasted space.

[nova lodge]

that sure is hard to produce....

too limited on xiranite ;v

[crisp stag]

cover the bus... with unloaders... huh

[mortal plinth]

wat.....is this holy fertilizer ?

[mortal plinth]

this

[crisp stag]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-incredible-meme-true-true-meme-computer-gif-1001249237588985364

[nova lodge]

its definitely a fertilizer to go for if you have excess xiranite ;3
and doing planting activities

[mortal plinth]

you only placed 4

and left gaps

x.x

you want as many as possible lol

[shrewd knoll]

its burden beast flavored mountain dew

[crisp stag]

ight let me just i guess... rebuild the hole thing rn

[nova lodge]

in solid form!

[mortal plinth]

basically...yeah

[olive basalt]

So guys, surely the river next to the core aic area inst the only water source

how are we supposed to bring the water from other places?

[shrewd knoll]

other places has their own water

just look for it

[nova lodge]

you can connect over from the water fall area too though.

[novel topaz]

kk

[nova lodge]

and for PAC, you can connect from the waterfall area.
or
just connect it from out of the stockade area directly and pipe in.

[olive basalt]

yeah but how do you bring that over to the aic area

[nova lodge]

[shrewd knoll]

use the pipes

[olive basalt]

like areas outside of pac have water right

do you like build pipes all the way from there to the pac

is that even necessary

[shrewd knoll]

you can drag a pipe through wuling city if you wanted to

[nova lodge]

....what? PAC have its own water source.
what are you even talking about?

[olive basalt]

apologies if i caused confusion

my question was

[trim narwhal]

I'm producing the following, but am am slightly behind the bills produced by the outpost.

• 10/min Wuling Battery (3 for power)
• 4/min Jincao Drink (90/120 ferrium)
• 1/min Xiranite Component

Is this normal? Should I stop producing the components?

[olive basalt]

is the water source near the core area infinite?

does it ever run out?

[shrewd knoll]

yes its infinite

[crisp stag]

if I may, could I ping you back when I patch what I've done to have your opinion later on please ?

[olive basalt]

ah ok

that clarifies things

[shrewd knoll]

you can scan it and it tells you that it's infinite

[nova lodge]

ohhhhh, yes its infinite, don't worry about it.

to know if a water source is infinite, perform a scan

it will tell you the remaining amount of it isn't

(your pump also tells you the remaining amount).

[marble yarrow]

you could use regional transfer so your jincao drink production can do more

[olive basalt]

yeah so i was like thinking about where to get water if this one ran out and that was my question

but it never does so like

thats not a problem

[mortal plinth]

well...depending when later is ill be sleeping...lol

[nova lodge]

i personally likes to place pump everywhere so.....

[mortal plinth]

.pump

boo...

[olive basalt]

Yeah

it is unlimited

i didnt know that

[mortal plinth]

UNLIMITED water

[nova lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

now....we need:

[marble yarrow]

then turn the other pool into this

[mortal plinth]

if you pee in the clean water, does it become unlimited pee?

[nova lodge]

for a pool that big....it sure held so little lel

[crisp stag]

oh haha yeah ig... well nvm then I'll ask the chat if you'll be sleeping by the time. But thanks for the advices

[olive basalt]

i didnt know i signed up for philosophy classes dude

[mortal plinth]

its probably more like...the amount you can take out of it without drying it up

[nova lodge]

physics and space displacement error.....loading....

[mortal plinth]

np and cya

[olive basalt]

well my question now is

the plant loop in wuling is going to require pipes

i cant just squish them all together

how am i going to place them without pipes taking up all the space

[shrewd knoll]

you can squish them together

you dont need a second planter

[olive basalt]

oh you dont?

[nova lodge]

just put them at the edge

[olive basalt]

so this literally is the "loop"

[nova lodge]

1 planter produce 2 plant per seed for wulling plants.

(valley 4 produce 1 plant per seed).

[ornate sorrel]

you can only have either 2 wuling battery prod or 1 wuling battery + component disk production at a time right?

[nova lodge]

for 100% capacity production, yes.

[ornate sorrel]

if i want to do 1 wuling battery without gaining stocks at a slower rate than their regen rate

do i have to resort to trasnfering batteries from Valley IV?

[nova lodge]

you can always do the 1 wulling battery use strategy while tethering on low power mode.

[olive basalt]

its kinda crazy that the planter loops are this small now

[marble yarrow]

you can also produce 9 battery and 1.5 component. that way you match outpost stock bills

[calm crow]

I just make 2 or 3 SC battery plants

[olive basalt]

btw this is set up right isnt it

[calm crow]

Then replace them with 1 HC plant, since Wuling is rather new. There is only the AIC

[olive basalt]

Maybe you could set up metastorage for hc batteries and then put generators down?

[calm crow]

I have no access to that yet, but I do want to duplicate the HC for power

[modern axle]

Does anyone know the base size of the main pac area of wuling?

[marble yarrow]

manually bringing HC is faster than metastorage

[olive basalt]

oh you dont?

[calm crow]

Not yet, I don't intend to

[marble yarrow]

you can easily get to producing batteries once you are in wuling

[olive basalt]

well will it run out before metastorage brings more in?

it brings like 1500

[cunning fable]

Any new factory pieces release with the new update today?

[nova lodge]

you can, but the calculation alone shows that HC usage > yield for meta transfer. (so no full automation)
better to just bring it over on dijiang during start up.

[calm crow]

Nein

[marble yarrow]

you dont stay in HC in wuling that long. build wuling battery as soon as you can

[cunning fable]

damn that sucks, I wanted my 3 level conveyor belts

[calm crow]

Don't we all lol

But the manufacturers need to be faster as well

[marble yarrow]

you can be a madman also and bring all your extra hc

[olive basalt]

so it runs out before it can get replenished

[cunning fable]

we need the level 3 speed conveyor belts that satisfactory has

[calm crow]

I kinda wanna try to see how long I can last before I cave dive into Wuling battery

[cunning fable]

have you even bought out all the limited resources in valley 4 yet?

[marble yarrow]

what limited resources

[cunning fable]

1 sec

[olive basalt]

metastorage is straight up magic because i just moved 1.5k stabilized carbon to kickstart my xiranite production and i didnt even have any in valley