aic-factory

[cedar shell]

exactly, there are items going left to right, and bottom to top

[novel herald]

Should get back sometimes

[cobalt oriole]

Move the entire bottom half up one tile please

[sudden egret]

splitters have a dedicated input port. Make sure it's turned correctly

[worn knoll]

water tank is full

[vast iron]

might be leftover water

[cedar shell]

other way around*

[young stag]

pipe

[low obsidian]

ACCIDENTALLY PUT A BOTTLE TO BATTERY BANK AND ALL WULING FACTORY SHUTDOWN

[young stag]

a pipe can only carry so much

[cobalt oriole]

Pipes make 2/s. you should try not to split into more than 3 lines and even that is inefficient

[grave wedge]

TADA 🎉

[young stag]

ofc its starving when you hook up 6 sprinklers into it

[marble yarrow]

BRO IS TRYING TO DISCOVER NEW FACILITY FORMULAS LMAOOO

[nova lodge]

hmm? since it was based on old design, hadn't cleaned it up yet.

[vast iron]

my eyes

[sudden egret]

Yes. now scoot up that bottom row 1 square

[worn knoll]

everyone said sprinklers are fine to run on 1 pump since they run so infrequently and have internal water storage anyway

[novel herald]

How

[cedar shell]

???????

[sudden egret]

Nicely done

[grave wedge]

@sudden egret

[young stag]

this hurts to look at but hey it works lmao

[cobalt oriole]

True sphaget

[young stag]

spaghettimaxxing

[sudden egret]

He's embracing factory game spaghetti

But his spaghetti has nothing on me

[grave wedge]

It’s so hard

[sudden egret]

but I wouldn't encourage anyone to follow my path

[grave wedge]

😳

😱

How much Power does Val 4 need

[nova lodge]

you meant this?

[novel herald]

If it works it works

[sudden egret]

Here's one of the cleaner parts of my factory

[vast iron]

spaghett is less painful than overoptimized mess

[broken vault]

I have 3 of the big one and 1 of the left. And i have all the originium mine. Is the originium gonna be fine or nah?

[fiery hatch]

ore alone is around 1.1k

[novel herald]

U can move the right side to the left by 1 square unit

[grave wedge]

My Current power is 4340

[sudden egret]

Yup, there ya go. Full-speed, neatly done

[young stag]

just check the pac

[vast iron]

top reasons i only make small blueprints

[unreal laurel]

do yall run self sustained buck A?

[young stag]

if youre over lay down more mines

[sudden egret]

No I can't sadly

[unreal laurel]

this shit looks like an absolute train wreck

[heavy furnace]

oh yeah?

[cobalt oriole]

U can make them crisscross btw. Have the parts use belt crossers into all the powder lines. That will save space in bottom left and look even more spaghet

[heavy furnace]

symmetry'nt

[broken vault]

Just confirming. This?

[young stag]

yea youre over

see how both theoretical data and real time data uses more you can mine

[unreal laurel]

what i showed was just slapped together so i have some buck A when i wake up tomorrow,ill fix it

[cobalt oriole]

He isn’t maxed yet anyway go back to finding more mines bro

[young stag]

he is

[cobalt oriole]

Get that 1080

[young stag]

560 is max

[heavy furnace]

oh you dont wanna see my 6/min entire row of depot buck A

[cobalt oriole]

Ferrum is not

[young stag]

hes not asking about ferrium tho

[heavy furnace]

trying 18/min buck A makes my head hurt

[broken vault]

Where the F is there, Wuling?

[sudden egret]

560 is max orig

[grave wedge]

I dunno how to make them

[mellow iris]

updated the factory based on feedback

rate it :)

[young stag]

why do you even need to anyways smh

[cobalt oriole]

No V4 has 1080 ferrum

[sudden egret]

get RDL to level 11, and get every ferrium node for 1080

[young stag]

if youre selling make hc

[fiery hatch]

make 6/m in sub pac, copy to 2 other, done

[tropic gale]

[e-mail]

[cobalt oriole]

Money and just sell both

[novel herald]

I believe in u, delete everything and rebuild. It'll be more compact

[vast iron]

Id recommend making a sub-pac design and just pasting it 3x (battery takes less space put in main pac mayb)

[sudden egret]

No, not taking the bait today. You almost had me

[heavy furnace]

I got 18/min divided on all sub pacs though

[sudden egret]

Almost got my ass there

[heavy furnace]

of batteries

[novel herald]

[young stag]

dunno

[fiery hatch]

oh im suprised it fit

[vast iron]

whats the footprint

[young stag]

i have it making 18/m and 6/m respectively

[fiery hatch]

i did buck A

[sudden egret]

idk, a lot. I can't BP it because it collides with other production lines

[grave wedge]

Bro how do you make that

[mellow iris]

im as of now making a variety of resources, i just wish we had expandable area zone

[young stag]

idk if i have enough mental capacity yo make 18 and 12

[vast iron]

ah ic

[mellow iris]

anyway how do i increase my output count on the pac thing

[vast iron]

ya dont

[novel herald]

If only this guy play the main mission

[hollow crest]

tks to the PWM guy, I managed to save 2k battery a day

[sudden egret]

For the record, it looks that way because it's a hyper-optimized settup that enables me to fulfill full ore usage while only requireing the main PAC and a single AIC

[fiery hatch]

theres 2 more zone expansion per base

[candid tinsel]

why am I struggling to buy out all my lv 4 refugee camps? i have a minmaxed base, what stupid thing am i doing?

[novel herald]

U'll unlock depot bus. Basically unloading stuffs from the wall

[novel herald]

Show us your production report

[young stag]

what is that.... contraption

[marble yarrow]

weird setup but it can be simpler (since i did power calculation in spreadsheet)

[sudden egret]

You're produicing 18/m HC Bat,s 18/m Buck [a] and 24/m Fruit [C] right?

[hollow crest]

#1469163037876555954 message

[grave wedge]

How to

Someone told me I can make it crisscross

[novel herald]

U haven't unlocked it yet

[sudden egret]

Don''t worry about that right now. That''s for more advanced and compact settups

[mellow iris]

this one?

[novel herald]

Yes

[hollow crest]

I just like this one cuz hard coded pwm is so cool

[candid tinsel]

yes (i split the 18/m buck so it 12buck 6cit)

[marble yarrow]

goated

[candid tinsel]

here is everything that is in the positives

[sudden egret]

do you need 6 banks using batteries?

[novel herald]

This is enough, u'll soon buy out everything in all outposts

[young stag]

ofc the original source is bilibili 😭

[candid tinsel]

at 5

[young stag]

those guys are fucking wizards

[sudden egret]

Eh ok, yeah looks like you'll bankrupt them all in time

It's not an instant thing, give it a few days

[fiery hatch]

kinda like this i guess

[tacit goblet]

that could work with a bridge

[sudden egret]

It''s just not worth the effort tbh

Bridging that doesn''t net him any benefit

and it already works as is

[tacit goblet]

i mean if the guy wants it to be organize

[sudden egret]

He's not even making HCs, so he still has a ton of playing to do before he gets to the stuff where bridges will be needed

[hollow crest]

weird, you should be able to bankrupt them easily, selling canned citrome C to the 1st outpost? cuz I remember the other 2 dont buy that

[novel herald]

U guys are telling him to put more effort for no profit

[candid tinsel]

tf am i seeing

[vast iron]

too much bridging can take up protocol space

[young stag]

bankrupt them with hc

[candid tinsel]

am doing that

[sudden egret]

Facility limit, not protocol space

[young stag]

make like 11k and sell it all at once

[vast iron]

only a problem in over-optimized bases tho

[vast iron]

i forgot what its called

[sudden egret]

Protocol Space is ONLY for outside the AIC zones. but each area has a Facility Limit of 768

[marble yarrow]

true lmao i cant fully saturate main HUB with 3 buck A and 2 HC because i spaghettified too much 😭

[fiery hatch]

lol

[sudden egret]

My hyper-optimized base takes up 767/768 facilities in The Hub

[hollow crest]

maybe give it a few days, how many generators did you use?

[candid tinsel]

5

[sudden egret]

I had to even super-optimize my relay network for mining in order to make my base work

[young stag]

do you need all 5

[hollow crest]

same amount as me

and I was able to clean with tons of spares

[vast iron]

you can probably cut down alot of facilities just from the screenshot especially with entry conveyers

[candid tinsel]

is there a na link for this monstrosity

[vast iron]

By just avoiding crosses

[sudden egret]

Believe me I tried, but if I did that, then I'd need a 2nd AIC

[hollow crest]

none, afaik, just place it down manually, it's simple enough

[marble yarrow]

LOOK WHAT IVE PREPARED FOR THE FINAL ONE

[sudden egret]

My base is hyper-optimized, and every aspect has a reason behind it

Some of those reasons hurt, but there''s no other way to do them

[low obsidian]

I COMPLETELY FORGOT THAT PROTOCOL STASH CAN ALSO PUT OUT ITEMS

[marble yarrow]

guess i'll forgo symmetry/mirrored main AIC

[vast iron]

does it perhaps have to do with cough cough energy pylons

[sudden egret]

No, I optimized the positioning of those as well

Trust me, I've looked at some of these parts for hours

I've tried making things easier in some aspects to save facility limit

I found plenty of spots to optimize for facility limit instead of space

But I took care of those

My base is at its limit

[young stag]

what do youe evn make

[worn knoll]

okay I figured out why the sprinklers wherent getting connected, apparently if you place the splitter before you put the pipe, it doesn't connect properly and bugs out

[young stag]

what is this rhodes island

[sudden egret]

All that, in a singular sub-AIC and hte main PAC

2 completly obselete sub-AICs in V4

that I use to sandbox occationally

[hollow crest]

make 20 origocrust

[sudden egret]

no

That''ll destroy the rest of my factory

[hollow crest]

[sudden egret]

Besdies, 20/m extra is just depot deliveries

[marble yarrow]

oh, you did buck B instead of a last buck A. yeah, less space

[sudden egret]

Yup

I hyper-optimized for space. My goal was main and a single sub

I knew I could easily do a 3rd [A], but I didn't want to

[marble yarrow]

that will make mine also fit in my main AIC and use also only 1 outpost

[sudden egret]

I still over produce, so in the end it''s not like my build is less optimized than others for stockbills

However, I would never reccomend someone follow in my footsetps

[marble yarrow]

nah, im gonna make this my problem unti next version update LMAOOOO

[mellow iris]

had to plant a dozen of mines and pollute the earth to finally increase my yields to above my usage

[marble yarrow]

i'll make myself crazy everyday maybe

[sudden egret]

Oh you''ve just begun the factory journey

[marble yarrow]

puts battery into refiner
discovers new formula 😭

[sudden egret]

and I hate you now

[vast iron]

wat

[mellow iris]

dont worry im only 6 or 7 out of 67 steps there to destroy earth and maximise profits

the factory yearns to grow

[vast iron]

Capitalist simulator

[sudden egret]

Yup someone else can help him

[grave wedge]

I do have HC right above it

[mellow iris]

america simulator

all we need now is some minorities to trash on, recycling, pollution and some rival factories that we bomb and destroy until they cant depend on themself so we must supply them for resources for even more profit

[nova lodge]

akendfield: you will learn to love no.....whether you like it or not.

[short bane]

overly complicated build 💔

[sudden egret]

What in the memelord abomination is that

[nova lodge]

better don't look at mine, its both cursed yet weirdly working at the same time.

[vast iron]

what the abomination

[short bane]

i have absolutely no idea what im doing but hell does it work

[vast iron]

Wise words…

[sudden egret]

fair enough

[mellow iris]

the factory yearns for growth, the factory yearns for pollution, the factory yearns for profit over anything

[young stag]

shouldnt this clog the piss out of the seeding machine

[vast iron]

it does

[primal iris]

how i am supposed to add the solid material in it

[vast iron]

It clogs the grower tho

[fiery hatch]

this factory? yeah. factorio? lol THE. FACTORY. MUST. GROW.

[sudden egret]

your crucible won't work. It's got part of it outside the AIC zone

[nova lodge]

honestly....i really WISH this kind of setup would just transfer stuff over ;v.

[sudden egret]

That yellow zone is hte zone of functionality. Any building that isn't power won't work if any bit of it is outside that yellow zone

[vast iron]

yep

[sudden egret]

This would make life dramatically easier you have no fucking idea

[nova lodge]

please dev, make it happen!, including pipes!
it must be done for the factory!

[vast iron]

until all the stuff breaks from connecting to things it shouldnt connect to

[runic epoch]

It would make compact builds the meta

[sudden egret]

My base of autism would be so much cleaner

[short bane]

yes im the endmin yes i dont know jackshit about managing and building a facility

[vast iron]

add it im finally getting my 28 24 design out

[sudden egret]

Yeah I've noticed that in some aspects, but they could solve that by still requiring a "connection" to be set up between the two. Like a belt that doesn't take up a square, but still needs to be placed

[vast iron]

would be the best way to do it yepp

[sudden egret]

Will that ever happen? Highly doubtful

[vast iron]

your pfp says otherwise

[short bane]

👁️

[vast iron]

[sudden egret]

You know one thing I'm surprised. There's no daily login reward

kind of unusual for a gacha game

[vast iron]

isnt that usualy the event

its ended..?

[sudden egret]

like there's the daily mission

[young stag]

we had the 2 events

but thats ir

[sudden egret]

Yeah there's the events, but there's not a "Login reward"

that's just permanent

[young stag]

other gachas do the daily login reward in the battle pass

[vast iron]

well this pass only has uh

weekly

no daily tasks

[runic epoch]

im surprised i've withstood playing at this resolution for so long

[vast iron]

my resolution is lower

[sudden egret]

Because we have daily tasks, and maybe a temporary daily event. But there''s no regular login bonus just for logging in

[vast iron]

fear me

[glossy nymph]

Never

[fiery hatch]

this is not login ?

[young stag]

yeah whatever that is

[sudden egret]

Yeah that''s a daily task. But that''s not what I'm talking about

[nova lodge]

more like daily task i guess

[fiery hatch]

ah ok

[sudden egret]

Like if I logged into Uma, there's a daily reward that you get for doing nothing but logging in

[vast iron]

i mean sometimes the weekly task thing has a task to login 5 times

[nova lodge]

OG ak does have daily login bonus though.

[vast iron]

for 5/10 of the thingy

[sudden egret]

It won't be tied to an event or anything, just a daily login bonus

[young stag]

daily tasks in this game sure does take time

[sudden egret]

Normally gacha's have some sort of daily login bonus. It'll be barely pennies worth of jack shit, but it's still there

[fiery hatch]

yeah i guess besides ardelia login bonus, theres none rn

[cobalt oriole]

Nah it doesn’t. Fastest way is just craft one gear then give one gift

[fiery hatch]

true

[cobalt oriole]

2mins done

[vast iron]

facts

[young stag]

no i do everything that refreshes daily

including deliveries

[cobalt oriole]

Yeah but

[vast iron]

send public

ez

[cobalt oriole]

If you’re just here for task

[fiery hatch]

ah thats different

[cobalt oriole]

That’s it

[nova lodge]

tbh....if its just the daily orundum, its very fast and quick to clear.
but if you combine it with valley credits and such, yeah, it does takes much more longer.

[candid tinsel]

is there this but for HC valley battery?

[fiery hatch]

thats map task

[cobalt oriole]

50% of my time was spent importing from V4 but I no longer have to do that heck yeah

[vast iron]

The longest part for me is probably finding and doing 3 shared wuling deliveries

[young stag]

no thanks, ive heard of the tales of people arriving with like 5% left on integrity

[vast iron]

not for me apparently

[cobalt oriole]

Just do that for V4 and do your own Wuling

But Asia server are quite good at it these days

[young stag]

i actually dont know how to do that

tbh

[hollow crest]

None that I've known so far, but Valley is alr efficient enough that you won't need it tbh

[vast iron]

Wuling deliveries are not that significant

[cobalt oriole]

Most of the Wuling acceptors want that stock as much as you lmao

[vast iron]

u get more from market flipping and outposts

[vast iron]

the perks of having like 5 ms

[cobalt oriole]

Right b4 u accept item from depot, go to quest tab and press transfer job

[sudden egret]

I'm just hoping I get enough stockbills to buy that Tianshi Pillar

Then I''ll have every Stock Trophy

[cobalt oriole]

Nah bro perks of having optimised zipline setup

[hollow crest]

I gain like 300k Wuling bills from deliveries daily

[cobalt oriole]

I have used 38 ziplines to perfectly join everything in Wuling

[cobalt oriole]

The exact amount is 219.3k from others

Then 80k+ from yourself

Assuming you are doing maxed deliveries that give 73.1k each

[hollow crest]

yea delivery makes up a good chunk of your bill income

[candid tinsel]

I am getting more dopamine from snagging wuling FEDX jobs then the gatcha

[sudden egret]

I just wany more environmental pictures to take

for those juice 200k

[cobalt oriole]

Now if only I got better stock trading deals

I haven’t had a good Wuling trade EVER

Nothing ever above 400%

[sudden egret]

Best wuling I''ve had is from 1k to 3.5k

[marble yarrow]

wait its exact number 318k

[cobalt oriole]

Yah it’s your own job + 73.1k x 3

[vast iron]

you can prob buy at 1k then hold till its more than 3.5k on sm1 elses

[hollow crest]

Are you guys artificing now are hoarding the artifice mats and wait for more gears?

[sudden egret]

Probably, but I'm impatient

[short bane]

THIS IS IS NOT IDEAL VRO

[cobalt oriole]

Mine is always equal bcos all the stock goes straight into artificing mats lmao

[vast iron]

i have like 3 days of stock being held

[hollow crest]

[sudden egret]

I'm usually fine with selling above 3k, but I won't ever buy above 1k unless I''m gonna max out on purchase credits

[cobalt oriole]

Who do I have to shoot

[hollow crest]

I probably should hoard artifice materials and wait for more gears

[sudden egret]

With V4, I only sell above 5k, and buy below 1k unless I''m gonna max out

[cobalt oriole]

I just want another distributor is that too hard to ask for

[sudden egret]

You and me both

[nova lodge]

.dodge2

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1315943378181033994/1405176605621620756/1755085863.gif?ex=689e88f1&is=689d3771&hm=a7a1c83020d537bb29c30e00c83a8c5921c6554852fee0c4637b42ed96d04278&=&width=600&height=338

[nova lodge]

devs dodging your request indeed

[sudden egret]

the fucking bollywood soulslike

I gotta admit, as goofy as Bollywood stuff is. They've got style

and for that, they've got my eternal respect

[rapid kelp]

Sandleaf is like 200% efficient as a material cuz it's most used byproduct, the powder is produced in 3s mfjdjc

[left phoenix]

I so badly need to rearrange and optimize my factories but ik its gonna tale forever 😭

[sudden egret]

took me 12 rebuilds, each one taking a minimum of 6 hours

[young stag]

free money!

[hollow crest]

My ginseng is done time to harvest

[fiery hatch]

man that wuling job's taken out so quick XD

[left phoenix]

You’ve completely just destroyed any confidence i had in doing it 😭

[nova lodge]

welp, great, expect me to overengineer wulling stuff too.

[cobalt oriole]

If u lucky u done in 5mins. Max Ive ever had to do was 15min total

[sudden egret]

mb, honestly don't have your confidence destroyed. I went hyper-autistic and ultra-optimized every little aspect of my base

[fiery hatch]

no i mean the crypto spam XD

[sudden egret]

Each rebuild was to improve 1 small aspect

but those 1 little aspects usually saved me a good chunk of space or organization

So unless you go maximum autism like I did, don''t sweat the factory building to much

[hollow crest]

I'm only obsessed with statistic and how much my factory produce so it looks ugly as hell

[sudden egret]

Be like this dude

[nova lodge]

or be like me, modify things on the go and churn out overly complex stuff that does the same thing for the same result lul

[sudden egret]

I still don't get wtf your plant build was. I was actually on the verge of crashing tf out

[nova lodge]

success in the wrong way.

[sudden egret]

like planters and seeders in V4 are the EASIEST thing to get optimal

outside of Orig ore into refinery into PAC

[marsh inlet]

Did yall know wuling plants give 2 carbon cubes :>

[sudden egret]

Yes

[nova lodge]

but hey, it makes modification easy i suppose. 🤣

[hollow crest]

yea I think we all know about carbon optimization at this point

[marsh inlet]

Found out abt it the other dau

Saved so much space

[hollow crest]

the water planter also produce 2 more plants so you only need 1 planter

[marsh inlet]

Yeah

That one I figured out p quick

[pseudo basin]

currently there is no way to get both xiranite batteries and components at the same time due to forge limitations?

[nova lodge]

knowing is 1 thing....
actually producing it in a more direct way is a whole different matter.

[marsh inlet]

No u can

Just not optimized paces

[analog elbow]

100% efficiency? No

[nova lodge]

[marsh inlet]

^^

[sudden egret]

Your most balanced option is 6/m Bats, and 3/m Components

[marsh inlet]

But enough to make it work yes

[analog elbow]

Possible but yeah

[marsh inlet]

The pain in the ass is when u need xiranite water

[hollow crest]

did you also know about Pulse Width Modulation controlled generator that reduces battery waste

[marsh inlet]

Tf do those words mean

[sudden egret]

He''s meming

[hollow crest]

[marsh inlet]

This is what peak performance looks like

[pseudo basin]

are there bps? coz I am stuck

[marsh inlet]

U might not like it

[nova lodge]

[marsh inlet]

But its absolutely the factually correct way

[sudden egret]

idk, check #1461542035617091681 I think there's a Wuling specific guide or something in there

[analog elbow]

Ah yes the min max battery safer

[fiery hatch]

yeah when logic gates are involved, anything is possible

[marsh inlet]

Wuling is so fun, cant wait till the next update gives us more tech tree stuff

[hollow crest]

it is so unnecessary that it's hilarious

[marsh inlet]

Pov cosmetic attachments

[nova lodge]

superior intellect.
extra int used to mess around instead.

[analog elbow]

My favorite feature is actually getting dung from petting em beast lmao

[marsh inlet]

Imagine using splitters

[nova lodge]

[hollow crest]

oh yea im using those fertilizer rn

[marsh inlet]

Speaking of, is there any actual real use for sprinklers? Like, can u auto harvest or just pointless structure fr

[analog elbow]

Speed up plot farms

[hollow crest]

It just auto waters Wuling crop cuz it needs multiple water

[marsh inlet]

[analog elbow]

So you don't need to water it manually i guess

[hollow crest]

still have to manual plant and harvest

[marsh inlet]

Aids fr

[analog elbow]

i mean at this point you can be anything

Farmer

Plumber

[marsh inlet]

They dare make me manually farm like a peasant in my factory game

Smh

[hollow crest]

im farming ginseng cuz I got nothing else to do

[nova lodge]

electrician

geographer

[analog elbow]

And so much more

[nova lodge]

pest exterminator

endfield industry does it all! in the name of factory expansion!

[hollow crest]

We can do fishing next region

[analog elbow]

THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[marsh inlet]

[marsh inlet]

I want a fish mill to manually yoink them

For me

[analog elbow]

I mean Alesh literally bragged about the fish he caught like bruh ...

[pseudo basin]

I only see full bases. I want only part batteries and components. Xiranite and syringe prod is already setup and it will ne a waste to break it

[marsh inlet]

Btw... does it bother anyone else that the dogs drop meat but the bunnies dont...

[nova lodge]

game gives fish farm instead, auto produce fish meat :3

[marsh inlet]

Chinese game fr fr

[analog elbow]

Pretty much the build im using atm

Doesn't even need full expansion for it to work

[mortal plinth]

halfway there 💔 lmao

[hollow crest]

[marsh inlet]

What in the hell are you making

[nova lodge]

someone grew their factory in a while different way

[marsh inlet]

[mortal plinth]

my goals are beyond your understanding

[marsh inlet]

YOU DONT SAY

[analog elbow]

Peak Factory Design. Couldn't believe I'm watching this for free

[mortal plinth]

its taking a long ah time to fill up tho...

[nova lodge]

[mortal plinth]

factory isn't factorying right

ig the items just slide on grass now

[nova lodge]

the next evolutionary step is probably converting all the nodes into splitters ;v

[marsh inlet]

What the hell have you done

[mortal plinth]

im designed it in a way every belt will be filled up eventually

[mortal plinth]

its called PROGRESS

[sonic zinc]

"Letsgameitout" ahh 😭

[mortal plinth]

Endfield wont stop progressing!

[marsh inlet]

Next step in evolution is make the lines full of xiranite

[mortal plinth]

how did you know? ....dang... ig ill have to upload the video today

[marsh inlet]

Just a temporary storage till he needs more fr

[nova lodge]

i kept forgetting that regional transfers no. isn't factored into the AIC report =.=

[mortal plinth]

question is, will i go over storage cap when i eventually delete all the belts or nah

[marsh inlet]

Absolutely u will

Lmao

[mortal plinth]

if so, this is a legit strat , if i use depots instead i could have lots and lots of stacks just waiting lmao

[marsh inlet]

HAHAHA

For your transgressions against the endfield

[mortal plinth]

"storage cap is 24k" not in this factory !

[marsh inlet]

Naked perlica

[sudden egret]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

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[acoustic steeple]

Guys do you have any idea, what I can do with my extra 20/min originium ore. I still have 3 extra PAC output left in my MainPAC

[marsh inlet]

Make perty rock

[sudden egret]

use it in daily depot deliveries

[marsh inlet]

[mortal plinth]

make more batteries?

[hollow crest]

Make 20 origocrust

[acoustic steeple]

I cant

[marsh inlet]

Nooo then ur not distributing thousands of bombs to all of valley IV

[gritty skiff]

Uhhhh why is this not powered???

Oh wait nvm this is not wuling

[marsh inlet]

The previous tower isnt powered either

[acoustic steeple]

Maybe just origocrust lol

[mortal plinth]

origocrust it is then, they can also power Your base lmao

[marsh inlet]

Yeahh u can use them for more power

[gritty skiff]

Yea I been staying in wuling a lot

[mortal plinth]

if it wasnt for limited space, we'd all use origocrust batteries i bet....

[marsh inlet]

Sglap ona these

[mortal plinth]

why ore? what...

[marsh inlet]

EffecienC

[mortal plinth]

It only accepts origocrust tho i thought

[hollow crest]

just use the splitter

[short bane]

design 10/10
effectiveness 6/10

[marsh inlet]

Unoptimized rates reeee

[marsh inlet]

All roads lead to peen ah design

[hollow crest]

well it uses exactly 20 originum

[mortal plinth]

beautiful? yes
efficient? Hah.

[young stag]

certifiably designed by chen qianyu

[mortal plinth]

my factory has 100% efficiency

it spins originium ore in circles at all times at full speed

[nova lodge]

M3: the AIC system isn't made to produce bottles and pills!
Endmin: -> proceed to do tons of whacky uneccesary stuff in the build zone.

[mortal plinth]

.dump it

[shrewd sigil]

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[hollow crest]

I should make explosive again, I feel like 9k is not enough

[dreamy scaffold]

9k is more than enough 😭

[nova lodge]

agreed, remember to always do shipments with explosive too.

can never have enough.

[hollow crest]

you can use bomb to blow up ores so you dont have to hit rocks manually

[jovial breach]

Wait you can?

[nova lodge]

you can

[mortal plinth]

i got only 20k 🙁

[nova lodge]

just a hassle to restock bombs ;v

[jovial breach]

[hollow crest]

also I'd feel more safe with 80k bombs rather than 9k

[jovial breach]

I've been hitting ores the hard way

[nova lodge]

now....if only i can transfer all those bombs to wulling, all in one go.

[mortal plinth]

early game you can 1 shot enemies with bombs

kinda fun ngl

[nova lodge]

^ fact

please give more!

[mortal plinth]

https://klipy.com/gifs/military-34

endmin be like

[young stag]

you can do 1750 every manual transfer

[young stag]

almost

[nova lodge]

i am not gonna do 40+ transfer time to wulling :v

[mortal plinth]

at exploration lvl 1 you can

[young stag]

it takes like 20 seconds at best

dump bombs in inv

tp to wuling

[dreamy scaffold]

you mean the ones in protocol space thing?

[young stag]

dump bombs in wuling

[mortal plinth]

i remember 1 shot killing landbreakers from like 300 meters away

[young stag]

you cant shoot that far

[short bane]

behold seed 2.0 farm

[young stag]

the explosives have a self destroying fuze

[mortal plinth]

welp, i cant measure it either, it was like..as far as it can go

[nova lodge]

wait a min.....is there a reason to go pass 100% trust?

[hollow crest]

no I meant the rare ore gathering ones

[young stag]

cooking absulutely nothing

[mortal plinth]

it does pretty far tho

[dreamy scaffold]

oh those

[young stag]

its not even 100m iirc

[jovial breach]

Yes, they give you better gifts

[short bane]

trust the process

[mortal plinth]

thats how you unlock the marriage option-

https://klipy.com/gifs/perlica-shrek

[shut meteor]

how much sandleaf yield is too much yield?

[nova lodge]

nice, can focus on that later.
but stat builds come 1st.

[shut meteor]

feels like i might be overdoing it

[nova lodge]

2000 yield per min.

[dreamy scaffold]

like around 1k

[short bane]

until it turn to flesh then you can yield it

[nova lodge]

^ yeah, the more realistic no.

[runic epoch]

Will it claim their bones

[shut meteor]

ok im good then

[jovial breach]

You get their trust over 100 and they cook better foods for you

[nova lodge]

though frankly, i think sandleaf / bombs are some of the best items for delivery packs.

[dreamy scaffold]

even in valley IV most youll use is around 700

[mortal plinth]

wtf....thats a lot of sandleaf

[marsh inlet]

Lore? Uhh potentially higher level ops? Idrk

[hollow crest]

you really dont need that much

[nova lodge]

something to work on later :3

[shut meteor]

too much then?

[marsh inlet]

Wife route

[hollow crest]

cuz sandleaf produce 3 powder, and some lines only use 2, so you get spare 1 line, which can be recycled into another production line

[marsh inlet]

[jovial breach]

In og arknights you can also raise trust over 100%, to a maximum of 200% because when friends borrow your operator they only have half trust

[dreamy scaffold]

bro's the antartica seed vault of talos-II

[runic epoch]

No way it's Jane Arknights

[marsh inlet]

Mom

[marsh inlet]

Really?

I never knew that

[shrewd sigil]

finally making legendary gear

was apain to set up w ooyt blue print

without

[marsh inlet]

Now artifice 1000000000000 pounds of wuling money and 1000000000 sets into to get 1 minor increase

[shrewd sigil]

i js want leg set mine is like um purple

[marsh inlet]

Supreme chief doesnt know how to wake people up correctly

[shrewd sigil]

got money

[marsh inlet]

Itll evaporate like air 😭

[shrewd sigil]

nah i max out everything

[marsh inlet]

Wuling really makes me feel an extra level of broke

[jovial breach]

I think you need like 400k-500k to max 1 single stat of a gear assuming your luck is shit

[marsh inlet]

Stock market yesterday gave me negative 4%

[marsh inlet]

I used... like 3 mil for 2 upgrades

[shrewd sigil]

meow meow

[vast iron]

my stock is up 145% today …

[jovial breach]

Just need to balance your income and component prod

[shrewd sigil]

could be better but ill live

[marsh inlet]

Anymore and batteries take a hit

Fancy Water is alr a pain

[vast iron]

theoretical 6/min hmm

[marsh inlet]

TODAY?

[vast iron]

i have 1 up 145% ye

[jovial breach]

That's normal, no?

[zenith shard]

Better? How? XD

[marsh inlet]

Nobody can get max production with xiranite tbh

Everyones soft capped

[shrewd sigil]

im to laazy to make another farm

[marsh inlet]

T^T

[vast iron]

6/min is if you dont make anything else

by like

importing v4 batteries

manually

[zenith shard]

You are capped to 60/min xiranite...

[marsh inlet]

Ahh

Fair fair

No amethyst in wuling is foul btw

[vast iron]

what will you even use it for

[marsh inlet]

Batteries

I need my blue rocks for medical supplies

[vast iron]

just run pure originium at this point

[shrewd sigil]

my power lmao and its only 1 battery

[marsh inlet]

I REFUSE

[marsh inlet]

Wtf is this

Run them into 3 at least ;-;

[shrewd sigil]

blueprint

[vast iron]

if you use 100% of your originium on power banks youd have

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

…

[marsh inlet]

Wait

Thats not thermal

Thingys

I thought it was batteries

[vast iron]

2600 power

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

using 360 originum/min

[acoustic steeple]

Wait this is big brain wtf it took me a while to understand why I have to use a splitter

[vast iron]

On thermal banks

for 2600 power

[marsh inlet]

Itd be awesome if the lines split/moved faster

[vast iron]

buff conveyer belts

[marsh inlet]

Pls

[zenith shard]

But my point is the limit for xiranite is 60/min if dedicate all of it to Xiranite Component you can only get 6/min, right? So this can't be better

[shrewd sigil]

tbbh i js want 40 armor pieces for 2 teams rn

[marble yarrow]

if u want it smaller

[vast iron]

yes for buckflower u need 1 seed 2 planters

also use yazhen

[hollow crest]

yea mine is super ugly cuz I have a tiny space near depot where I can fit this, u can use the above one for simpler design

[shrewd sigil]

i miss my gf shes asleep

[zenith shard]

Yeah me too, but you got me when you said "It could be better" so did you ment no producing batteries? Because more Xiranite Component farm will result in nothing. Pd: Sorry for bothering you

[marsh inlet]

Weird flex but jokes on u i have

[vast iron]

how much components, is too much components?

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

i hab 10k rn

[shrewd sigil]

i mean even if it was 1 xiranite /min component it would be fine

[shrewd sigil]

loser

[marble yarrow]

also if you do this

[marsh inlet]

Guys does this look pretty

[zenith shard]

Never is enough

[vast iron]

I will become so rich in components

ill put components in my wuling deliveries

[marsh inlet]

Thank you

[vast iron]

this, my friends… is a high intelligence specimen.

[shrewd sigil]

DO I GO ember

[white heath]

I need MORE

[marsh inlet]

FUH NO

[shrewd sigil]

but shes hot

[marsh inlet]

you have a girlfriend

[shrewd sigil]

its in game character dumb ass

😭

[marsh inlet]

[vast iron]

what, is the ai chatbot servers down?

[shrewd sigil]

nah shes from usa

shes asleep

[marsh inlet]

But its

921

In the morning

[shrewd sigil]

idk i think m ygfs sleep rotuine might be coooked

[marsh inlet]

Guys

Does this look

Optimized?

[shrewd sigil]

so ardelia or who from free 6

i think i js go waifu

fuck it

[vast iron]

ew, so clunky and big

[marsh inlet]

SHOW URS THEN

[shrewd sigil]

peak

[vast iron]

#1467519294836314153

[marsh inlet]

What the actual fuck

[nova cradle]

hello AIC factory peeps

I made some new cool factory again

[marsh inlet]

Look at least I dont copy blueprints like a lil bitch

[nova cradle]

Behold...

[vast iron]

sub optimal designs in the big 26

[nova cradle]

I call this one, the Startup

[marsh inlet]

At least the other one isnt like this one

[vast iron]

oh god the facility load

[nova cradle]

[vast iron]

if i get a stroke and die know its your fault

[marsh inlet]

ITS DAMN FUNCTIONAL U HEAR ME

[nova cradle]

it can be applied as well for amethysts

[marsh inlet]

[nova cradle]

Just change out the facilities

same with Ferrium i thinnk

[mortal plinth]

you're doing it wrong, this is the optimal design

[nova cradle]

i haven't tested with ferrium

[marsh inlet]

ITS EXPANDED

[mortal plinth]

almost full

[vast iron]

very compact design! 100% of AIC space used

[mortal plinth]

indeed

[marsh inlet]

UR A HOE UK THAT

[nova cradle]

I also have a 4 unloader version of The Startup

[marsh inlet]

[mortal plinth]

i cant wait for this to be over ngl... its so slow haha

[vast iron]

i didnt need u to tell me that

[hollow crest]

wow I just take alook back at explosive recipe it is so bad

we would super overproduce aketine powder wtf

[marsh inlet]

Man im out here tryin my best

[nova cradle]

uh oh why can't i place it

[vast iron]

how many explosives can you possibly need

[hollow crest]

80k or no balls

[vast iron]

maybe dont use 100000 belt splitters in the design

[marsh inlet]

Gotta distribute them to the civilians ykyk

[nova cradle]

damn it looks cool tho LOL

[marsh inlet]

If only it worked that well

[nova cradle]

also they're item control ports

[short bane]

best i can to rn

[vast iron]

each belt splitter takes facility soace

u have like

800 facility space

[nova cradle]

they're item control ports

[vast iron]

TOTAL

[nova cradle]

ok ill try removing some control ports

D:

[marsh inlet]

Im making all the resources I need and theyre all fitting

[vast iron]

Seeder doesnt need 4 outputs

[mortal plinth]

Too efficient lmao

[marsh inlet]

They hate us cuz they aint us

[hollow crest]

planter is easy to simplify

[marsh inlet]

[marsh inlet]

Pff

[nova cradle]

thanks lol

[mortal plinth]

What are those Q symbol things ? Wuling tech?

[nova cradle]

i had more of an art approach in mind for this tho lol

[nova cradle]

item control ports

[sudden egret]

Item control ports...that he's spaming for unknown reasons

It's a fat waste of facility limit for not benefit

[elder flame]

i dont really know what those do

[sudden egret]

nothing really

[elder flame]

i left the tutorial around in case i learn something from it

[mortal plinth]

Oh right, I don't really use those 💀

[sudden egret]

They're supposed to be a limiter, but there's no actual use case for them

[nova cradle]

they look cool

[low obsidian]

How?

[vast iron]

it can be used as an on off switch

[nova cradle]

they even show a directional arrow

where an item is going

it's nice

[marsh inlet]

Wait! U modified another mans designs

U dont get to talk down to me

[sudden egret]

There''s a room with a big center thing, and surrounded by glass. There's a drop down to the floor below

[vast iron]

kek

[nova cradle]

i knnnow how to save BPs now. i guess i should never save a bp if there are still control ports in it

[marsh inlet]

Peasant

[nova cradle]

hold on~

[mortal plinth]

Well you can use it to prevent your factory from overproducing I guess... Like let's say you are using more batteries than you can produce for a quick boost of production speed

[vast iron]

[mortal plinth]

But why would you do that, idk

[sudden egret]

That's just poor factory building

[marsh inlet]

Im a free thinker

[low obsidian]

Nevermind i found a shattered glass in middle area

[low obsidian]

Thanks

I just realized one of the glass is broken

[jovial breach]

Item control port would be useful if it output the wrong items to the sides

[vast iron]

[marsh inlet]

Off to take an xray

[elder flame]

very impressed

[stark osprey]

I finally got Xiranite production online and right before I ran out of pylons

20/min sounds good to me

[elder flame]

you can use electric pylons within the PAC area

even in Wuling

[tired sundial]

what materials can i sell in wuling that i can make at valley iv

[stark osprey]

I know but I was setting up originium miners

[jaunty pumice]

can someone tell me what this means . the submission progress ?

[foggy arch]

how can i make the thermal banks self sustained in Wuling? does anyone have a blueprint for that?

[vast iron]

u dotn have enough facilities to build the bp

[elder flame]

you're missing parts

[young stag]

you dont have enough parts

make parts then submit

[jovial breach]

You transfer Ferrium

[sour night]

What they need to do is merge Item Control Port with the Splitter, then it would be slightly more useful in niche scenarios

[jaunty pumice]

so 6/7 submission depot unloader means i needa build one ? or ?

[stark osprey]

I just use originium ore for now but you can make LC Wuling Batteries also

[elder flame]

ye

[young stag]

jst press submit

[tired sundial]

alr thanks

[young stag]

its not going to kill you

[stark osprey]

@foggy arch

[foggy arch]

yes but how do i make it self sustained so i dont have to keep adding batteries

[vast iron]

But i will

[young stag]

https://tenor.com/view/brain-hurts-gif-12096381820083648834

[stark osprey]

use a depot

[young stag]

i hate how this is the only channel i can send gifs in

[foggy arch]

u got a blueprint?

[jaunty pumice]

uh did that but now it says 720\640 power

[young stag]

is that a depot bus INSIDE of a pac area

[young stag]

more thermal banks

[stark osprey]

Yeah

[vast iron]

wuling

[young stag]

you can move them?

[stark osprey]

yeah

[vast iron]

its a facility in wuling

[stark osprey]

the owl increases the bus station limit from the controller here

at base it's 5 stations per controller which means 5 stations in any of the 4 directions

[sudden egret]

It''s Wuling specific

V4 can''t move the depot buses

[stark osprey]

can you empty ferium bottles inside a fluid tank and than stash it to delete the water?

[sour night]

People truly are jobless

[shrewd sigil]

Looks like something chen would make

[sudden egret]

Low-key, I've considered doing something like that in Wuling

[sudden egret]

like wtf else am I supposed to do with all that space

[nova cradle]

Here~ Startup V.1 and V.2 side by side :D

I think this is my happiest creation yet

[marsh inlet]

Dw same

[nova cradle]

So it can support amethysts too annd ferrium as well i thinnnnk

That's it :D

[idle kelp]

Hello there
I need blueprint for sc and capsule (B)

[marsh inlet]

Make it yourself like a man!

[sour night]

My Valley pass sub pac can create almost everything with plants as only ingredients, only thing missing is 1 more ground flower powder and carbon powder

[marsh inlet]

Its your factory innit

[sour night]

and im too lazy to make it more space efficient

[marsh inlet]

Dw, you get more plants later on that are better for carbon production anyways

[sour night]

Well thats in Wuling, im talking just about V4

and im making carbon powder in infra so im fine

lets not talk about power plateau being completely empty

[marsh inlet]

But also

[nova cradle]

Both V.2 Side by side :D Just gonna change out the facilities for amethyst to make it work there

[marsh inlet]

Why do u need all the powders?

[sour night]

Honestly im just trying to cap every item in V4 cause it seems like funny idea to me

[marsh inlet]

Fair enough

[nova cradle]

or i think this only works for originium...

[marsh inlet]

I love your love for splitters, I just wish the game had the same love

[idle kelp]

Why bother myself when someone has already finished it? Don't be stupid

[marsh inlet]

[nova cradle]

it's really flexible!

[marsh inlet]

Because its fun and rewarding!

[sour night]

Buck Capsule A and Canned Citrome A is prob gonna take the longest but thats one of the last items on the list to cap out

[marsh inlet]

[nova cradle]

It also helps with making symmetrical belts

[marsh inlet]

Unfortunately it ruins the efficiency as of now

[nova cradle]

yahhh

0.5 speed

[marsh inlet]

Buff belt speed

[nova cradle]

but if you're producing a lot anyway and keep the factories at a fair numbers for production it should come out alright

i thinnk

I dunno the math btw

I just think if more = faster

[marsh inlet]

Yeahhhh

I mean

Kinda?

[sour night]

Well for some productions, speed of conveyors dont matter cause the prod itself takes 10s

[marsh inlet]

You could probably just use a better design in the same space... I wish splitters were better

[marsh inlet]

This is true

Unfortunately dust is not one of those materials

[sour night]

Upgradable factories when

[marsh inlet]

I wish I cld do smth like this

Splitters too slow

[elder flame]

what's the gap in the depots for...?

[marsh inlet]

This isnt an actual design just a theoretical

EX: if factories could merge into the same line without clogging

[elder flame]

oh

[marsh inlet]

It works for slower items

But fast ones it clogs

[nova cradle]

yeah i dunnnno sorry hahahaha

[marsh inlet]

Dw I wish they worked too

With like

Max efficiency

They do work technically

[rough breach]

Is regional level 12 worth to get?

[marsh inlet]

But its just slower

[marsh inlet]

U like gambling?

That single blue ticket calls to me like crack cocaine

[rough breach]

Uhhh Gamba it's a must 🤣🤣

[nova cradle]

they work a fair lot yes. They make a factory looks cool frfr and i wish more designs use them. Maybe next patch they'll add a belt speed up? But maybe they wanna keep it simple for factory building so it stays like this haha

[rough breach]

What it does dou metastorage

[marsh inlet]

I hope they do bcs as of rn splitters and combiners are basically useless

[marsh inlet]

No idea I didnt read and havent used it

[rough breach]

Hhh

I though you have it

[marsh inlet]

Gamba ticket tho

I do

[foggy arch]

i copied a blueprint, but how do i make this thing start?

[young stag]

no input

[marsh inlet]

Feed it plantlife

[foggy arch]

ive put seeds and buckflowers but its still not going

[marsh inlet]

Did u put them in the pickers or planters

[young stag]

duplicates stuff from your inv to wuling and back

[foggy arch]

buckflower in the planting thing and seeds in the seed picking

[marsh inlet]

Seeds go in planters

[foggy arch]

this is what im copying

[marsh inlet]

Plants go in pickers

[velvet temple]

Ok, getting a bunch of things online, how much sand leaf per duper is enough to keep it constantly moving

[young stag]

buckflower goes into seeding

[marsh inlet]

Ye so just swap where u put the seeds

[young stag]

let it run by itself

[young stag]

1

you need 1 to start it

and its all good from that point on

[velvet temple]

Really? Cause that's gonna leave production gaps at the start. I kinda need it to be at it's peak right now cause I'm on borrowed time

[young stag]

you need 1 to start the entire unit

[velvet temple]

(slowly running out of power and batteries and trying to get an HC battery plant online

[young stag]

after that you have infinite copies

[hidden temple]

depends how long the loop conveyor belt is

if the loop is 2 conveyor belts, you want 5ish plants on the seeder

[velvet temple]

Made it as small as possible. Just from one directly 180 into the other

[violet granite]

Need some suggestions on what to produce next in Wuling. My current facilities are 2 Xiranite, 1 Wuling Battery, 1 Jincao Drinks & 1 Yazhen Syringe. I don't plan to set up another Wuling Battery production line as long as they limit Xiranite production.

[high stag]

finally got every aic upgrade. my hub pac looking amazing after all the optimization

[mortal plinth]

Watch and learn mortals. my masterpiece is finished

[marble yarrow]

stabilized carbon for xiranite?

[hidden temple]

I just put 12 or 25 anyway in case power ever stops or I move and stash some, good to have allowance

[foggy arch]

this

[icy meteor]

I'm rushing through Wuling story to craft endgame gear. What else do I need to do? Shits complicated af

[sudden egret]

He has completed the Gilberta Summoning Circle

[foggy arch]

do you know what i need to make xiranite after this?

[wispy plank]

is it bad that i dont copy other peoples blueprint?

[young stag]

no

[sudden egret]

No that's' fine

[velvet temple]

Guess I'm making a plateau run cause I only have 10, and need to run two different ones💀

[young stag]

i dont even copy anyones bp

[sudden egret]

My entire base is custom built by me

[mortal plinth]

it took a few hours to fill it up, eventually items stopped showing up on the conveyors though

[young stag]

takes the fun out of the game

[velvet temple]

Not counting the monstrosity I'm making at my main base

[high stag]

same

[mortal plinth]

well.....idk what to do with my factory now

[wispy plank]

okay great causei like learning the factory system

[hidden temple]

yeah just loop and stash plants for a minute or so lel

[mortal plinth]

Ig its game over

[shut jetty]

Biggest purchase ever

[mortal plinth]

the end of the field

[high stag]

if im meant to have a working factory, gacha god will give me the braincells to design it

[foggy arch]

i copied a print for xiranite, but its only making carbon thing, how do i make xiranite?

[runic epoch]

...

[runic epoch]

Forge of the sky

[young stag]

tfw i copy a bp and refuse to read instructions

[sudden egret]

Honestly, the factory building in this game is turbo basic. Like if someone can't do it (Not counting those that don't want to deal with it, but CANT) then they need to go back to school and take pre-algebra classes

[velvet temple]

I'm so bad with getting factory ratios right, so I'm giving up on having creative designs for now till I can find a tutorial that works for my monkey brain

[tulip goblet]

What's the point of Separating Unit? I don't see any use of it.

[runic epoch]

Jjk levels of reading comprehension

[regal horizon]

are we getting update tomorrow?

[foggy arch]

what?

[young stag]

thats for advanced shit like ratios

i personally dgaf

[jovial breach]

That bp is only for carbon

[young stag]

if it works it works

[sudden egret]

There's nothing advanced though

[empty pulsar]

you mean a splitter or?

[young stag]

what i like is numbers not how my factory looks like

[marble yarrow]

liquid separator

[foggy arch]

what do i need to add for xiranite

[empty pulsar]

oh

[tulip goblet]

It's called the Separating Unit, I've never used it.

[empty pulsar]

yea for now not really much use of it

[sudden egret]

The most "advanced" math in the factory building is considering a fuckign 1:3 ratio of Sandleaf into Sandleaf Powder

[marble yarrow]

just add water™

[jovial breach]

Water + Carbon in The Forge

[tulip goblet]

I think they are just waiting until the future.

[empty pulsar]

unless you want to redo your prods for some reason

undo*

[tulip goblet]

The most Advance I feel like is the resource requirements of like 5 and 15, which is well...1:3(I'm pretty sure)