aic-factory

[safe vale]

yep you need a ton of sandleaf then

[sacred salmon]

i havent unlocked Wuling factory yet

[safe vale]

iirc it's around 12 plot for me

[sacred salmon]

goddayum

[drifting coyote]

guess there's no other way ok i'll make a similar setup and pray

[smoky rain]

should I be making SC or HC valley batteries for power?

[safe vale]

6 or 7 on main pac

[turbid lance]

If my math is correct, 2 water pumps merged into a single water pipeline can supply 4 planters

[marble yarrow]

so it stays at this

[solid imp]

HC
Just make the best ones you have

[drifting coyote]

HC should be best no?

It does consume 2x originium compared to SC but you make like 1.1k power compared to 420

[sacred salmon]

what an annoying leaf

after i made like 5000 material for gears i just deleted that one lol

[marble yarrow]

yes

[sacred salmon]

wish it was more open-world factory building than this small space

[smoky rain]

Yeah, just trying to figure out how I'm blowing through 690 origium ore per minute. and only produce 560 per minute

[drifting coyote]

Double check why you're having 23 originium ore unloader

[marble yarrow]

also fun thing you can pass through water via reactor for a planter

[sacred salmon]

thats a lot of originum idk when was the last time i used that much originum

[scenic comet]

is that theoretical or actual usage?

[sacred salmon]

there is water?

[drifting coyote]

18 hc battery/min should only be 540 originium/min

[scenic comet]

reactor does use a lot of water though so you can run out of water if you split too much

[smoky rain]

Actual atm

[marble yarrow]

well 1 pump supplies it. so i still effectively give 1 pump to 2 facilities

[scenic comet]

so ur depot is draining orig until shit stops working

[scenic comet]

you can use a pipesplitter for the same effect, but yeah still useful

[smoky rain]

Yup. trying to figure out a solution before said Bzzzt occurs.

[solid imp]

water

Got them offshore pumps

[sacred salmon]

need to get me some water i barely touched Wuling

[scenic comet]

just check your orig ore outputs if you have more than 18 outputs you're going to overdraw

[ornate scaffold]

what size were you able to achieve

[scenic comet]

for what specifically? i maxed out v4 using 2x minimum size outposts and 1x max size, but you can get really crazy with it

[ornate scaffold]

oh for buck A specifically

[scenic comet]

pls don't do this: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466662291377487966/1466662292786511915/12_hc_18_buck.png?ex=6986c9b3&is=69857833&hm=82fb7acbfcebb6492c9a8fff2ecbd0992144657d4bc9d8d82654b2f9ceab7efe&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1209&height=1160

o7

[solid imp]

It's such an incomprehensible icon mess when zoomed out like this lol

[drifting coyote]

Lol that's crazy

i only put 18/m battery in my main pac rn, and a 6/m buckpill A for each outpost

[smoky rain]

... maybe it's because I went completely overkill on the hc battery production... Yeah... I may have used 18 orginium outputs alone for HC battery prodution.... lol.... yeah.... just realized the battery takes 40 sec to use. So, I'd make 3 extra batteries for my stash and 1 for the power bank. So... oops?

[slender abyss]

Should i do this?

[runic epoch]

Going band for band with Leander

[ornate scaffold]

god damn.

wtf is this...

[drifting coyote]

Your main goal is selling those anw

5-6 thermal banks running hc is enough to keep all your machines running

[ornate scaffold]

1 buck a machine is 6/min?

[smoky rain]

Yeah, I'm making 18 HC batteries a minute

[turbid lance]

Thats the only thing keeping the whole factory's some semblance of sanity

[scenic comet]

i don't use that blueprint btw, i use something way cleaner

[ornate scaffold]

oh what do u actually use

[scenic comet]

from my paint guide: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466125655941976135/1466125657145741463/V4_MAIN_HUB.png?ex=6986276b&is=6984d5eb&hm=671315fd84c4ab98d7e777a26f4119a8397a5dd20e97d10abddb725c3d70f370&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1264&height=1160

and the HC batteries are made in the outposts

like a sane person

[ornate scaffold]

what is cap a?

[runic epoch]

I see

Makes sense

[ornate scaffold]

nvm

[ornate scaffold]

yeah just realised lol

[smoky rain]

I think I can cut my HC valley production in half then.

[drifting coyote]

Oh you can make cap c with the leftover amethyst

[smoky rain]

to 9 per min or so

[stark minnow]

Is there a wuling blueprint that optimally uses every space when you max the base and sub pac?

[hidden temple]

we don't have enough yield to occupy everything, and your subpac will very likely be empty

[ornate scaffold]

oh i see, and you create the buck/sandleaf, then put it back into the pac?

[vapid dock]

This is how mines setup

[scenic comet]

exactly

use protocl stash so i dont gotta route it, i can pull it back out more easily

[scenic comet]

^ this is a good example of what i'm talking about

[hidden temple]

and here's how spaghetti it gets without the unloading

[smoky rain]

think 6 HC valley batteries per min is enough? or should I produce 12?

[runic epoch]

Just do the full 18

[flint widget]

what can I work with:flushedfumo:

[scenic comet]

to cap out on stocks each day you'll want this output: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466125655941976135/1466125656386568213/V4_OUTPUT.png?ex=6986276b&is=6984d5eb&hm=971bf8797339bc4fc47073fee74eb04cf8d56296f08134b3d022128e37213144&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1485&height=1160

[ornate scaffold]

i kinda like this tho...

also how do i zoom out more

[hidden temple]

6/min will be used for power, do 18/min to sell 12/min's worth

[solid imp]

There's nothing to automate in all that space unless you just wanna make a million flowers for no reason

[smoky rain]

I think I must be off on calcs for orginium to produce that...

[solid imp]

For all the useful stuff you're limited by ores or xiranite (which is limited by Forges of the Sky)

[hidden temple]

it's multiple screenshots just stitched lel
tho you can force a zoomout when trying to place a 1x50 blueprint

[ornate scaffold]

uh huh

[drifting coyote]

You only have 2 forge of the sky so you just utilize those to highest capacity
You don't even get enough ores to spam yazhen syringe/jincao drink

rn 12 lc wuling + 6 yazhen seems best

[solid imp]

I think it's funny you can use any kind of bottle but there's literally 0 amethyst in wuling so ferrum it is

[scenic comet]

i'm just gonna say mines the best because you spawn in next to a zipline https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468057352145080615

[solid imp]

You can still bring amethyst bottles over from v4 though

[scenic comet]

they don't work in syringe 🙁

[hidden temple]

mhm same, hence I built it this way. also prioritizing symmerty over compactness, but I still minimize space where I can

[solid imp]

I use amethyst bottles for my personal xiranite liquid for playing Super Mario Sunshine

I wish there was an easier way to make it so auto-deposit into the depot didn't take my bottles of liquid without telling it not to stash all manufactured components

Every time i go to dump flowers or whatever in there i have to fish my water and xiranite bottles back out

[scenic comet]

you gotta do some splitting shinenagans if you want that behavior, like this (it takes 1/4 of my xiranite)

[solid imp]

No i mean from my backpack

When i click the quick deposit button

[scenic comet]

oooh, i see, yeah they need a lock/pin item in backpack

[scenic arch]

[solid imp]

The only way i can think of to stop it would be to literally fill the depot with bottles of water or xiranite solution lmao

[hidden temple]

it'll be addressed
uhh third underline

[scenic comet]

not pinning items though

i'd like that

[solid imp]

Huzzah

[stark minnow]

cool base, but what im looking is a base that can actually fill out each space of a max upgraded PAC, same thing with sub PAC. given explanation tells me its impossible, so its okay

[hidden temple]

yeah, locking whatever you choose would be neat

[solid imp]

In Wuling? Again there's nothing to make in all that space

You'll just be filling space to fill space

[sacred fossil]

yo im level 45 in game now and i have no idea what to put in factory like i cleared everything ,0 , does anyone mind helping me out ? asia server..

[stark minnow]

is it because of the forge of the sky limit?

[solid imp]

That and the lack of ferrum

[smoky rain]

not sure how to reach 18 Hc battery per minute without blowing up all your orginium ore

[drifting coyote]

Is there any improvement i can make to this

[runic epoch]

How much yield are you getting for originium

[smoky rain]

560

[runic epoch]

It's more than possible

[scenic comet]

it's impossible because we can only make 2 forges (like it's a hard cap), everything else except syringes is capped. and syringe uses 120/min ferrium, but in all of wuling there's only 90/min ferrium, so even if we filled it all with syringes we'd drain our ferrium in like 30 seconds

[solid imp]

Once you have 60/m xiranite being used to feed however many batteries and components, and the ferrum is all being used for yazhen syringes/jingcao drinks, there's nothing else to make. And you can do all that in a half-upgraded AIC without even touching the subPAC

[drifting coyote]

18 hc is 540

[solid imp]

The point of 18/m hc battery is to use all your originium since thats the main use for originium

[scenic comet]

it's running at max, are you trying to make it more compact?

[drifting coyote]

Yep

I'm just trying to reduce the spaghetti

[smoky rain]

I see.... I was under the impression I needed some orginium for other things

[unkempt apex]

when do i unlock the 3 way conveyor belt

[solid imp]

More spaghetti

[lament token]

guys can i have xiranite comp bp for asia?

[scenic comet]

one trick is to flatten the planters and flip the shredder upside-down so it feeds into the facilities more cleanly

[solid imp]

Mostly for components which you don't need infinite of and get outclassed by xiranite components in wuling

[drifting coyote]

How do you flatten the planters though

[solid imp]

Hammer

Flatten like pancake

[drifting coyote]

[smoky rain]

got it, that's where i was getting confused. So if I have a good battery factory it should use 540 orginium by itself. Good to know.

[solid imp]

Wait until you hear about your Buck A factory eating 720 ferrum per minute

[smoky rain]

that I actually understand.

[solid imp]

Messed up the math a bit at first

I still think it's funny the limiting factor for making medicine is the industrial amounts of steel the packaging takes

[smoky rain]

all the medicine has to be stored somehow in medical grade safe containers after all.

[scenic comet]

like this, feed into a flipped shredder

so you make like a.. U-shape? i dunno

[drifting coyote]

Oh that's interesting

yeah i can try that arrangement

[hexed geyser]

anyone know where the minerals are?

i've been looking around but i can't find it

nvm im dumb xd

[drifting coyote]

Try finding a hole to go downwards

[hexed geyser]

xd thank u

[scenic comet]

😳

[drifting coyote]

[flint widget]

what can I craft?

Im too lazy to build base rn

[drifting coyote]

Probably just lc batteries and ferrium part

You want to mine a lot more ferrium for better crafts

[scenic comet]

use amethyst to make zipline towers

[flint widget]

dont think i can craft that yet, only pylon

[runic epoch]

Pylon uses amethyst

I think they meant pylon

[runic epoch]

Oh wait do you have sandleaf

[flint widget]

YEAH

[steel narwhal]

min-max end game stocks is cracked lmao

[runic epoch]

Ok
You can make cryston to get zipline towers

[flint widget]

pain

[steel narwhal]

this is more useful than you think

worthwhile investment

literal time saver

[upper ibex]

hello, i just want some advice now i can maximize the outposts bills, my current factory cant deplete them
i want to know what is the best to produce at what ratio

[runic epoch]

Wuling
or V4?

[upper ibex]

V4

[runic epoch]

18/18

[upper ibex]

wuling is a deadass thing right now for me

[steel narwhal]

so what do u need ?

[upper ibex]

so hc battery 18 and buck capsule A at 18?

[jovial valve]

whats your current production ?

[upper ibex]

nah im good, just making xirante for batteries and gear componenets

[runic epoch]

Yes
Additionally 24 Buck / Citrome C to maximise it to the utmost potential

[steel narwhal]

yeah that's gonna be your end game until you think you have enough components

[upper ibex]

uhh let me check

14min citrome C, 4 min citrome A, 10min buck capsule A , hc batteries 12/min

[steel narwhal]

but a good indication of min-max xiranate production is that it doesn't increase or decrease.

it either immediately becomes a battery or component

[jovial valve]

well then yeah. Buck /citrome A should be 18, so is HC batteries.

[steel narwhal]

basically a constant number.

[upper ibex]

i used kyo's blueprints for wuling since i cant get the efficiency right

[steel narwhal]

you might be missing some nodes

[upper ibex]

alr ill adjust it to that then, ty

[solid imp]

Kyostin saved my ass in arknights and now he's saving people's ass in Endfield

[upper ibex]

same here :>

[upper ibex]

i got all unlocked

[upper ibex]

i think its me who is the problem tbh

[velvet temple]

bruh

how

[solid imp]

Not my tho i got my factory game down locked

[flint widget]

pain to set up this early tho

[jovial valve]

is your iriginium at 560/min and ferrium at 1080/min. If so then you should have no trouble reaching that value

[velvet temple]

I have literallt every spot but one Ferrium

[steel narwhal]

copium build

[runic epoch]

Rdl?

[velvet temple]

HOW DO I ONLY HAVE 60 AMETHYST

[upper ibex]

im running mine to the ground

[velvet temple]

regional development level?

9

[steel narwhal]

i assume ur in early-mid game? barely anyone uses amethys in end game except bottles for extra stocks

[velvet temple]

almost 10

[jovial breach]

Why is originium usage 570/min

[velvet temple]

I beat ||marble||

[jovial valve]

yeah you are missing some ferrium...alot...

[upper ibex]

i think i hadd one for the originium parts for factory equipments

[steel narwhal]

yeah that's mid game

[velvet temple]

and did the quest with Yvonne after

[flint widget]

this is what I have atm

[nova lodge]

570 is normal, for originum usage.

[upper ibex]

i have all spots with mining equipments...

🫠

[runic epoch]

560 is the max....

[velvet temple]

but it's also like. how do I have so much less then it says I should

[jovial valve]

are you sure. You wanna go check again ?

[jovial breach]

Isn't it 540/min normally

[nova lodge]

that's how it is.....
its slightly off.

[solid imp]

Yeah but there's no way to only draw 20/m out of an unloader

[upper ibex]

that is scaring me

alr let mecheck

[velvet temple]

have all the mine spots

[runic epoch]

So he has one extra unloader somewhere

[velvet temple]

except the one from "Lone Wolf"

[nova lodge]

well...if you wanna use that extra 20....well, you will overshot by 10
so i generally just have that extra shot points being used for refinement and stuff (auto stop production when maxed)

[solid imp]

I assume the extra unloader is for making oricrust for building materials

[jovial breach]

I mean what can you do with the leftover 20/min

[jovial valve]

I mean you can just have one hook up for originium parts and after a while it will fill itself out back to normal usage.

[marble yarrow]

you can, actually

[solid imp]

I mean yeah you can split 10 originium back into a stash but eh

[velvet temple]

wait, quick question

[turbid lance]

Speaking of ferrium, Wuling only has a measly 90/m. Not even enough for a 100% effiency yazhen C

[hidden temple]

swap out of ardelia, you don't need the prosperity points anymore

[velvet temple]

do lvl 3 extractors work for everything? and are they more efficiant then lvl 2?

[runic epoch]

MK2 ?
They mine ferrium and that's about it

[solid imp]

Yes no

[velvet temple]

Ok, so it's not that.

[jovial valve]

They have same efficiency. Use lvl 2 for Originium/Ame and lvl 3 for ferrium mostly to save on power

[solid imp]

Mk2 miners cost 5 more power to use than the regular ones, their only benefit is they can mine ferrum. They're not faster.

[nova lodge]

mines ferrium as an additonal option, but cost more energy to run.
does not provide increased mining speed from the normal Ver.

so better bring both miners along ;3

[worn vapor]

when you unlock meta transfer it technically gets like 115 a minute or something like that

still not quite enough for 100% efficiency but its pretty close

[nova lodge]

hadn't found a way to min-max usage for that 10 point difference thus far.

[velvet temple]

So if its not that mrk 2 has a better efficiancy, so how do I get an extra 250 originium, 180 amethyst, and 500 ish ferrium?

[worn vapor]

and can be achieved if you also manually transfer some if you care about that extra 5/min

[runic epoch]

RDL

Get it to 11

[velvet temple]

Is that really it?

[jovial valve]

yup

[upper ibex]

OH MY GOD MY DUMBASS, I FORGOT SOME MINING SPOTS

[runic epoch]

And what's your depot levels?

[upper ibex]

[jovial valve]

As expected ^^

[turbid lance]

MK2 miners should give more, otherwise its description is so misleading

[nova lodge]

me atm lul, transferring every now and then manually from V4

[upper ibex]

IMA SPEND THSE DEVS TO S SPREE

[velvet temple]

depote nodes are 2,3,2

[upper ibex]

i missed like 7 spots.....

[velvet temple]

and outposts are 3,2,1

[upper ibex]

😭

[nova lodge]

i should really adjust my production for valley 4 maps....
gotta get more valley points

[worn vapor]

i've been told they don't give more but then again people say a lot of stuff that isn't true so

[velvet temple]

all owls I believe are maxed

[runic epoch]

Are any of your mines unpowered

[worn vapor]

easy way to check let me just go replace some of my originium drills and see what the theoretical is

[nova lodge]

numerical no. shows that it doesn't give more. from the formula list.

[velvet temple]

I'll check the map again, but I don't think so

[upper ibex]

ty for telling me, i would have never noticed it at all

[jovial breach]

You can click on the rig and see lol

[smoky eagle]

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[safe vale]

it's rigged

the mining

[hidden temple]

literally the first thing I did after receiving mkII rigs was check and watch the output rates
why don't people just look at it if they're unsure

[turbid lance]

MK 1 and 2 just gives the same output. I was more of saying that it SHOULD give more, mustve word it incorrectly mb

[flint field]

Is there a way to produce or buy this thing?

[scenic arch]

Tbf the graph is not 100% accurate, for example metatransfer

[runic epoch]

Pet some beasts

[safe vale]

Pet cow

[jovial breach]

Talk to the guy at wuling city entrance (the big entrance)

[upper ibex]

isnt the meta transfer not counted?

[safe vale]

They shitted

[modest bluff]

That's a lot of LAND, Hypergryph
https://youtu.be/BQom1V9TdbM?si=HRXKgG6xWWOJnX_K

[nova lodge]

slap pat some cow in wulling.

[jovial valve]

can probably produce it after with an AIC update

[safe vale]

we tend cows?

[runic epoch]

You need cow dung

[jovial valve]

yes, yes we do

[worn vapor]

fair enough (also yeah this shit is the exact same output fr)

[nova lodge]

not sure if the recipe for making the packet fertilizer exist yet....

[jovial valve]

well hopefully its not an industrial farm....hopefully .... 💀

[flint field]

I bought it from the guy but it only sells one

[runic epoch]

Trapping the cows in cages to farm fertiliser 💀

[safe vale]

[jovial breach]

Have you bought the formula? If so put the shit and xiranite liquid in the forge to make it

[safe vale]

cow maxxing

[nova lodge]

the factory must grow!
in all areas.

[next prairie]

Oh is that how you get fertilizers? Lol

[safe vale]

*pet cow
*they shit
"this shit valuable"

[nova lodge]

[runic epoch]

No it's not lmao
There aren't any cages to automate it unfortunately

[jovial breach]

They're buffaloes btw

[flint field]

Where did you get it?

[jovial breach]

From the guy i told you

[safe vale]

I mean tbf they're one family no?

[flint field]

Yea i pat all of them and let surtr collect it

[runic epoch]

Is this lavacakes abuse

[nova lodge]

she gonna demand 5 tonne ice cream as compensation later.

[hidden temple]

imagine involuntarily being forced to take a dump whenever someone pats your back

[safe vale]

"I can't shit anymore master"

https://tenor.com/view/bummer-pig-sad-sigh-sad-face-gif-16726339

[jovial breach]

Weird chat

[safe vale]

it's for fertilizer okay

for the better

[nova lodge]

R-18 vibe aura going strong....

[safe vale]

for the empire factory

[velvet temple]

Hub
orig 5 2 5 5 = 17
am 5
fer 2

Valley pass
orig 5
am 2
fer

Quarry
orig
am 2 2 = 4
fer

Park
orig 2 2 = 4
am
fer 2 6 5 = 13

Lodespring
orig 2 (one low)
am
fer 2 (one low) 5 (two low) 2 (one low) 5 (two low) 2 2 (one low) = 18 (7 low)

Plateau
orig
am
fer 5 (4 low) 5 (4 low) 2 (1 low) 2 (1 low) 2 (1 low) = 16 (11 low)
missing access to 5 fer due to [lone wolf]

these are my amounts of nodes in each region

all are powered

and theres only one area of the map that's foged over

the tiny corner in park

[jovial breach]

should check all fog of war

[velvet temple]

and my ore production is still terrible

[velvet temple]

It's locked behind a fence, and all attempts to parkor over have failed

[runic epoch]

Is your depot just maxed out
So it doesn't take more than it needs to

[fiery hatch]

its lv3 science sub pac i think

[jovial breach]

you need to level outpost to unlock it

[shrewd knoll]

just sad owl behind it

[velvet temple]

does that affect the input numbers?

I thought that the yield was just what the total amount the extracters were mining was

[low obsidian]

Oh this will be finished when you done the side mission

[velvet temple]

not the total minus any clogging?

[low obsidian]

There is only a recycling station there

[runic epoch]

I kinda forgor how it worked
But theoretical shows your factory operating at it's max potential

[safe vale]

me and wife

[velvet temple]

ok, cool. at least im not missing any nodes

[shrewd knoll]

thats the CCP sponsored date

dont get it mixed up

[jovial breach]

current yield lower than theory yield means something is clogged or not working

[velvet temple]

Uhhhhhhhhhggggggg, so are you telling me that theres nothing wrong and its just because of the fact im in the middle of restructuring the factory

[flint field]

I think you have to upgrades your infra stations to lvl 3

[velvet temple]

not that my extracters are funcky

[nova lodge]

that fogged area is tied to lvl 3 PAC development for the area.
it will be unlocked once the quest is available.
and no, there is no nodes there.

[runic epoch]

Your yield is 1:1 to usage
So therefore it's likely your mines are clogged due to depot maxing out
And only taking what it needs for your production lines

[nova lodge]

max amount for valley 4 production:
originum ore: 560
amethyst ore: 240
ferrium ore: 1080 (i think, not too sure for this one).

regional development level 12.

[worn vapor]

1080 yeah

[slate minnow]

dayum

[worn vapor]

they are only at 550 orig tho

[slate minnow]

ferrium so much

[worn vapor]

do you get an extra 10 from the level up? idr

but that seems odd to me

[velvet temple]

Okay, so yeah. my problem literally is that I just tore down everything to redoo my ratios

[nova lodge]

should be, level regional development does boost output. (via mineral purity increase).

[velvet temple]

i still have like 1 low purity orig spot

so that would be it

[runic epoch]

They're below rdl 11

[grim galleon]

My factory is clogged because I put too much mining rigs across the region, and some of them aren't even being powered, do I have to get rid one by one? Because now my power is 190/200. The issues are my battery is 0, my buck capsule is 0, and my originium ore is depleted faster than other ores. It's probably because I made too many bombs(?) like around 2.5k, am I cooked?

[worn vapor]

I know

[novel herald]

Reset everything, make battery first

[nova lodge]

no, don't need to remove them.

you need to recalibrate what you are making in your AIC area.
and yes, battery comes 1st, and power units

[smoky eagle]

u make use of the excess originium by making them charge your powerplant

[jovial breach]

ok so you came here, i saw you in help earlier

[grim galleon]

How?

[novel herald]

Bulk action, highlight all machines, remove

[nova lodge]

press tab, press caps lock, press X, highlight everything, remove them.
time to clean up your base....
and focus product the more important goods.

[grim galleon]

Can I even tackle it with 190/200 problem? If I try to make battery, meaning I have to get rid the other mining rigs, no?

[nova lodge]

no, what battery can you make atm?

[shrewd knoll]

shove originium ore into thermal banks

[nova lodge]

stop the production of unecessary stuff.

[grim galleon]

I play on mobile sir. But yes, I've remove every facilities in pac and sub pac.

[grim galleon]

None, LOL

[jovial breach]

make LC battery

[smoky eagle]

don't get rid of any mining rigs

use originium to increase power

[novel herald]

Pretty sure u can make LC

[nova lodge]

by the time you encounter this issue with power....you can most definitely make LC battery.

[grim galleon]

Can I do it even on 190/200?

[atomic fiber]

who tf getting rid of mining rigs
go make battery wtf

[worn vapor]

just shove originium into thermal banks until you get a battery line going

[shrewd knoll]

you can if you shove originium ore into the thermal bank until your battery is up

[sonic summit]

done optimizing sand paper now i can make zipline tower
sadly bottlenecked by purple ore..... need more unloader

[smoky eagle]

input Originium into Thermal Banks.

[nova lodge]

also, use mining rig mk1 for everything.
mk2 is only for ferrium mining.

[atomic fiber]

progress the game and get the recipe for making battery

[nova lodge]

ah....the early days of base item production :3
i would make the sandleaf production separate though, to save more space.

[solid imp]

Don't it sucks

[novel herald]

Supply thermal banks with originium

[solid imp]

Oh i missed the context

[smoky eagle]

they haven't made any battery

[nova lodge]

its good early on when you don't have other better options.

[solid imp]

Fair enough

[sonic summit]

i gonna enjoy the story and side mission as much as possible i mean i just now get a hand in sandleaf

[solid imp]

Do it then make batteries

[atomic fiber]

at that point just progress the game first. let the factory die for a while

[worn vapor]

never

the factory must grow

[low obsidian]

Yes

[nova lodge]

personally didn't have issues with base power amount.
i just swap between originum power, LC battery and so on earlier on and slowly progress with increasing power output.

[sonic summit]

nah rather stall in story than let factory die... its became boring if not like that ... just like my other game

[grim galleon]

Okay, let may lay down my problems.

1. My Originium ore is currently producing 36/minute. Others are having more than that, I forgot how many.
2. I've overproduced the bomb, it's around 2k

[nova lodge]

very good, not optimal, but it should work earlier on with limited production.

[sonic summit]

over produced at just 2k?

[jovial breach]

just stop caring about the bombs, that's enough until game eos

[low obsidian]

Yeah 2K is more than enough

I am at 1,5K and still 1K left

[nova lodge]

originum ore isn't even needed for the production of bombs though...?
the building consumes electricity, which you can turn it off.

[atomic fiber]

progress the game. you can make 80k bomb later

[grim galleon]

After that things are going down, like how can it produced lower than the other ores.

[low obsidian]

Yeah

[umbral galleon]

whats max yeild for ores in wuling right now

[low obsidian]

Add more mine

[runic epoch]

360/90

[worn vapor]

I stopped at 20k bombs, I doubt I will get close to using that many for a long time

[slate minnow]

EFO01Ue3530973Ou7Oa8 this one can help on mid and early since u can stack em

[nova lodge]

the 90 xiranite pain ;v

[atomic fiber]

progress the game, so you increase your mining ore

[wise cloud]

We can have only 2 sky forges?
Cryston component lc wuling battery I can’t make anything else

[nova lodge]

me keeping stock with 80 k

i ship bombs in every delivery LOL

[low obsidian]

I use them

[runic epoch]

You could add in a jincao prod line

[grim galleon]

The only thing I haven't progressed in the main story is the Wuling, I haven't gone there. Unlocking most basic facilities, done the side missions, and somes.

[atomic fiber]

welcome to endgame.
everything is scarce on wuling. you are poor yes

[velvet pebble]

What is the max originium ore yield in valley iv?

[nova lodge]

hi friend? can you help with my delivery.
-> box contains 30K points of bombs ;3.

[wise cloud]

Is this purple battery?

[low obsidian]

[slate minnow]

its blue batt

[umbral galleon]

560

[low obsidian]

Fragile indeed you jump it blows up

[winter trellis]

my yield/usage kinda mess, but it works so..

[wise cloud]

Blue battery is so sad
I need purple

[runic epoch]

Generational debt from the viceroy

[nova lodge]

don't you dare, i want my Valley 4 point too.

[slate minnow]

i have a line of blue BATT at base lol

[nova lodge]

[wise cloud]

Leave valley 4
Scam area
Wuling is the way

[low obsidian]

My wuling is peak

[velvet pebble]

As I suspected, somehow i missing 40, mine is only 520 -.-
Also thx for the reply

[atomic fiber]

you should have 560/min originum ore yield then if you already finish Valley

[novel herald]

Why so many buck capsule?

[novel herald]

600/min ferrium bruh

[nova lodge]

regional development + missing nodes

[novel herald]

Tf r u producing

[low obsidian]

[grim galleon]

The thing is, it isn't, it's around 36 per minute, others producing 120+.

[winter trellis]

cursed land 💀

[grim galleon]

Is there any reason why? Maybe putting too many rigs on other ores?

[nova lodge]

it shouldn't be producing 36 per min of originum, go see if your miners are powered on or not.
originum should and always be powered on.

turn off everything else and make batter or something.
(even originum shredded dust will do at this point).

[atomic fiber]

check all mines on map, see if you haven't put rig in most of them

[winter trellis]

to generate money of course, sell em at outpost

[velvet pebble]

Im at regional 12 and unlocked all node. Going to checked each one of them now, could be placing the wrong miners :')

[low obsidian]

[atomic fiber]

are your rig correct? you use electric rig yeah? is it powered?

[grim galleon]

Should I do it one by one?

[nova lodge]

yeah...or your lines somehow got misplaced / cut off lul.

[velvet pebble]

Im glad having someone doing the same thing lol

[atomic fiber]

check it on world map. no need to go there by walking

[grim galleon]

The thing is, some of them aren't even being powered, thus not producing anything.

[low obsidian]

I am going to do illegal delivery with Yazhen in Valley

[nova lodge]

yep, time to turn off a lot of things.
originum comes 1st.
your AIC power must be at 0% at this point.

[atomic fiber]

congrats you found the problem, now power them

[novel herald]

U're trying to make 36/min, but ur resources can only make 19/min. Might aswell remove lots of the machines

[grim galleon]

Yeah, but the problem is also not having enough power, but to produce more power I have to get rid some of them , it's endless cycle.

[wise cloud]

I gave up and imported blueprint asp
Why make a factory in valley 4

When everything important comes from wuling

It’s a scam

[low obsidian]

Valley is overrated tho

[nova lodge]

stop shipping cross border illegal goods!
wait...we are endfielders, everything is fair.

[grim galleon]

I guess I just have to get rid of things I haven't powered, and start from the closest one.

[low obsidian]

Why people skip wuling and stay in valley

[grim galleon]

LOL

[atomic fiber]

no. don't remove things yet. get your power to 6k at least before you start removing things, produce battery to increase your power cap

[sonic summit]

i got 1 more free sandleaf line .... should i upgrade red medicine from b to a ?

[nova lodge]

no need to get rid of them, especially the mining rigs, just turn them off from the building facility menu.

[grim galleon]

Okay, I'll try that.

Will come back later once I've solved it, thanks.

[atomic fiber]

he already finish all Valley main quest. Definitely should not be that poor to turn off mining rig

[novel herald]

Upgrade battery instead

[low obsidian]

Trade offer

[worn vapor]

because valley still has a lot of value even after you get to wuling

[nova lodge]

he messed up bigtime....gotta clean up tons of things and get the power going fast.

[sonic summit]

its on other factory

[winter rune]

https://tenor.com/view/fangyi-can-you-stop-fucking-around-gif-2298645845255946638

[low obsidian]

I don't see any value in valley

[raven tulip]

Whats the Best wuling factory i can copy ?

[grim galleon]

That's what I'm going to do.

[velvet pebble]

I found the error rigs . Thank god its on valley pass

[nova lodge]

sus shipment
but unable to be detected since its made....IN SPACE!

[steady oak]

I feel stupid for using the #help channel before seeing this but is this good enough? Before i go to wuling?

[worn vapor]

there are a lot of resources locked behind stock redistribution and you will want the valley engraving permits eventually as well so may as well start stocking up on them now

[wise cloud]

How to make purple battery?
Wuling battery is a scam

[umbral galleon]

do i also need xiranite for exploration??

[nova lodge]

essence confirmation tickets, you don't buy them in wulling due to how expensive they are.

[wise cloud]

Yeah
Xiranite water

[low obsidian]

Pardon me i make it even way worse than the video

[umbral galleon]

omg bruh

[wise cloud]

And xiranite equipment

[low obsidian]

You mean how cheap they are?

[wise cloud]

Cos some bosses and hella powerful

[nova lodge]

.....wulling battery is even more powerful than HC battery.
and you need to make them to trade with the outpost anyway...?

[strong sandal]

How many sub PAC are there in valley 4?

[wise cloud]

Eats up precious xiranite

Not worth

[low obsidian]

[worn vapor]

its the best thing you can use your xiranite for atm

not using it for batteries is a waste

[wise cloud]

But xiranite water

[low obsidian]

Go trade with syringe

[nova lodge]

there is only 4 uses:
battery
building construction
xiranite water
gear production

3 of them you don't need a ton of ;v.
and batter can be used for trade.

[low obsidian]

It's easier and no xiranite use

Also cheap cuz plant based

[nova lodge]

yeah, or yanzhen trade for the points.
but the limitation of ferrium is another factor,.....

[low obsidian]

Well technically ferrium+plant

[wise cloud]

There are also like
4 ores in wuling

[steady oak]

How do people gain like 20k amount of an item where i barely get like 12 a minit and not even 1k an hour

[wise cloud]

And 400 in valley

[novel herald]

U can't have more than 6 syringe/min

[wise cloud]

Scam

[novel herald]

Not enough to sustain outpost

[worn vapor]

they just let it build over time

[nova lodge]

you probably played for quite a while, but regardless, its good to diversify spendings for certain items.

[low obsidian]

Transfer the excessive ferrium from valley

[novel herald]

True tho, but why not make batteries?

Can make xiranite water n batteries at the same time

[low obsidian]

Well i did Make battery

[wise cloud]

What do you power your base with
If you sell off batteries

[low obsidian]

[nova lodge]

depends on how hyperactive you wanna be, but yeah.
with regional transfer, maybe every now and then is enough (in a few days).

[worn vapor]

batteries

[slate minnow]

there a small plot here :(

[worn vapor]

the wuling batteries give so much power you only need like 2 thermal banks and they barely use any

[low obsidian]

I mean over usage of ferrium in valley is a waste

[slate minnow]

i use one only LOL

[low obsidian]

True i use 2

[nova lodge]

1 xiranite is 1.4k power, for 40 secs.
2 station is enough to power everything + more.

and you will have excess for trade.

[nova lodge]

true as well....so yeah, depends on how hyperactive you are with the transfer on dijiang.

[small creek]

wtf does this mean
also am i doing this correctly

[worn vapor]

it should show the area it will water

[jovial breach]

power

[small creek]

no, the pipeline slope is too steep

power later

[worn vapor]

as long as its at least hitting the plot on one square its fine

tho I wouldn't place mine like that personally

[low obsidian]

[worn vapor]

looks weird

[steady oak]

How does eco farming work? Does it yield the rare variants of the plant??

[small creek]

would u happen to have a good example of a farm

[worn vapor]

show batteries

[small creek]

idk wtf im doing here

[nova lodge]

production not at 60 for xiranite, the pain!

[jovial breach]

yes that's the purpose of it

[worn vapor]

I can show mine though I wouldn't say its good

[low obsidian]

[nova lodge]

i think i can show mine later when i am back in the game.
i think i had reached mostly to the limit of optimization while keeping it as automated as possible.

valley 4 still need some serious clean up though.

[steady oak]

Is 2 buck pill a setups and 2 purple Valley battery setups good enough to leave in the background before i do the wuling story?

[nova lodge]

i recommend adding a fluid tank in between main lines.
ensures continues water output in between sprinkle periods.

[worn vapor]

eh

there is no reason to do so atm

[jovial breach]

nah dont need

[steady oak]

I really dont know if im using at the fullest or i shoukd just do the story?

[worn vapor]

everything still gets sprinkled when it needs to get sprinkled

[small creek]

this gets enough water to every plot?

[hidden temple]

1 thermal is enough for the usual 12/min batts, 6/min syringes and zipline setups
but if you push to make xiranite components on the side while making 10/min batts you're likely to use a 2nd thermal unless you use barely any ziplines

[nova lodge]

yanzhen flowers should produce 2 carbon blocks though...? which means 4 carbon powder upons shredding.

[slate minnow]

im a ds player, i dont use zip I WALK :D

[low obsidian]

Yeah i know

LAZY TO FIX 😭

[small creek]

why is it a square 😢 😢

[nova lodge]

[worn vapor]

same tbh I only use the ziplines when its literally impossible to get the delivery to the guy at 100% without them otherwise I am walking my ass this game looks too pretty not to walk

[nova lodge]

yeah, i realize it later too, took a while to fix

[low obsidian]

I put it like that since day 1

[low obsidian]

Fr

[slate minnow]

i dont even use zip for delivery lol, most i get is 98% integ

[low obsidian]

I realized it after over producing those flower

[hidden temple]

if it weren't for the 4 deliveries daily in wuling I'd do the same lol

[jovial breach]

you guys get wuling jobs?

[low obsidian]

How?

[hidden temple]

they're far af compared to v4 jobs

[magic falcon]

wait what!!! Xiranite facilites automatically connect to each over, so no manually running to connect them???

[low obsidian]

Yeah

[worn vapor]

thats like the place I want to walk around the most

[inner parcel]

yes

[magic falcon]

They took my job!!!

[slate minnow]

its wifi

[worn vapor]

I don't use ziplines in wuling at all, I even take the slow ass bamboo ferry

[nova lodge]

yep, its damn good.
but sometimes i connecting things randomly without knowing ;v.

[low obsidian]

I still use classic version tho

[inner parcel]

also guys
what mega-blueprint should i use? (im on NA/EU servers)

[magic falcon]

I'll won't be able to use my relay memes anymore.

[jovial breach]

no i mean how scarce they are

[low obsidian]

At least no one do a mistake like i did (MAKING 7 CORE DEPOT 😭

[nova lodge]

xiranite towers is limited to wulling only....not sure if other region will have similar towers or not.

[worn vapor]

I would guess future regions will have something equivalent at the very least

[nova lodge]

bus depot...? i think i made 20 of em.....
(been in wulling for a few days).

[inner parcel]

anyone?

[low obsidian]

Also why people say this thing is rare

[worn vapor]

because it is

[analog elbow]

because it's not that common?

[nova lodge]

its not exactly rare, but the quantity needed is a lot for continues usage.

[jovial breach]

i have 14 jincao plots for it

[worn vapor]

and the only way to farm it is by farming Jincao in the agricultural test site

[nova lodge]

you can farm fluffed jincao?

or thorny yanzhen?

[low obsidian]

Which one is better?

[worn vapor]

you can get it from jincao plots

so not directly but yeah its at least a fairly reliable source

[low obsidian]

[nova lodge]

oh....really didn't know that.
i figured it would be fixed item production.

[low obsidian]

Manual farm

[analog elbow]

Wuling literally built for farm plots fr.

[worn vapor]

[nova lodge]

NOT ENOUGH PROTOCOL CAPACITY IN WULLING!

[analog elbow]

[low obsidian]

How much?

[nova lodge]

I MUST BUILD MORE PUMP EVERYWHERE I COULD

[worn vapor]

how much?

[jovial breach]

the fluffed jincao powder is more useful, it can support controlled op

[analog elbow]

here's some good luck

[low obsidian]

Yeah the picture only show the detail

[novel herald]

Bruh how much ferrium u consuming

[nova lodge]

ouch!

[worn vapor]

how much what? what are you asking?

[analog elbow]

500 Thermal Banks

[solid imp]

If i can't automate the healing item it doesn't exist

[nova lodge]

2 xiranite powered thermal banks will give 3.4k energy, enough for current wulling content.
protocol capacity still an issue though.

[worn vapor]

the upgraded versions of it are kind of wild compared to other healing items, the infusion doing 20% max hp and 1648 on top is crazy

[low obsidian]

PRIVATE HEALING BATH 🔥

[vague storm]

What do I make in my sub-PAC? Xiranite components?

Finally progressed enough to unlock it

[solid imp]

A shrine to best supreme chief tangtang

[nova lodge]

get your xiranite production to 60 asap.
then produce battery + gear components.

if you have too much components, store some xiranite, then resume production for even more battery.
batteries for additional wulling points.

[willow beacon]

you need so many more batteries

[safe vale]

xiranite and batts

[low obsidian]

[willow beacon]

make 9/min at least

[solid imp]

I mean 12/m is the max and that's if you don't make any components

[analog elbow]

rookie number

[nova lodge]

a pool that kills instead of heal ;v.

[willow beacon]

he has 2/min

[jovial breach]

you can make 11/min battery and 1/min component

[solid imp]

Oh i looked at the wrong number

[worn vapor]

imagine if you forget a chest at the bottom of that place and then you fill it back up and later find out you have to drain it again to get the chest

[marble yarrow]

if you still havent discovered, yazhen/jincao plants are most effective for stabilized carbon production.

[nova lodge]

[solid imp]

And you can't just dump it in the nearby lake either cuz you can only dump into the same liquid

[low obsidian]

I already check everything

[safe vale]

poor guy

[willow beacon]

this is ideal for wuling

[safe vale]

can't even fish

[low obsidian]

Also

WHEN WILL FISHING ALLOWED

[willow beacon]

most components you can make while still maxxing outpost

[low obsidian]

I WANT TO FISH 😭

[worn vapor]

you think you checked everything

[willow beacon]

yes

[novel herald]

Yes

[wise cloud]

So I make enuf cryston components and water
Then put all xiranite into batteries?

[low obsidian]

Cryston what?

[jovial breach]

pretty much yeah

[low obsidian]

What is cryston used in wuling

[willow beacon]

i mean, sure if you sit there and manually import ferrium all day

but nobody is doing that

[novel herald]

Ye how much ferrium u import everyday with that production?

[low obsidian]

How lazy people import ferrium with this?

[nova lodge]

gear components comes 1st,
so 30 for gear components.
and 30 for battery production, that should be enough to power everything.

once you have a lot of gears, you can swap to having all xiranite to produce batter to maximize trade value.

and cryston don't have any uses for in wulling, just make the ziplines directly at base.

[willow beacon]

me when i do 10x the labor for 0x the return

this doesn’t increase stock bills at all lmao

[novel herald]

Also why xiranite isn't at 60/min?

[low obsidian]

I think i show the video already

[nova lodge]

your building setup is not optimized ;v

[novel herald]

Ahhh I think I missed it

[low obsidian]

I used sandleaf instead of the yazheng for carbon

[small creek]

why sprinkler not sprinkle

[novel herald]

What does it have to do with ur xiranite?

[jovial breach]

no water

[novel herald]

I also use sandleaf

[low obsidian]

Sandleaf one per seed

Yazheng is 2

[willow beacon]

?

[novel herald]

Mmhmm

[safe flicker]

anyone have valley IV endgame factory?

[willow beacon]

they’re both 30/min

[low obsidian]

Which make yazheng split faster

[small creek]

ok idk what was happening but i replaced the pipe before it and now it works
somehow all the other got sprinkled tho idk

[jovial breach]

blueprint?

[safe flicker]

yepp

[willow beacon]

there are tons in #1461542035617091681

pick your favorite and run with it

[safe flicker]

i need buck A and cryston

[novel herald]

But it doesn't affect xiranite production rite?

[jovial breach]

could be the pipe splitter, make sure it is correct direction

[novel herald]

Just supply 2 carbon thingy every 2 second into forge

[safe flicker]

aight imma look into

[nova lodge]

to produce carbon.
wulling yanzhen / plants product 2 carbon blocks per plant.
all valley 4 plants only produce 1 carbon per plant.
combining that with 2:1 planter : seeder production for sandleaf, you can go all the way to 30 xiranite production per forge.

of course, you need 2x grinder as well for this, to mix all those carbon powder up. (a max of 4 continuesly).

[small creek]

nah the pipe splitter was okay, its the pipe before it thats somehow the problem

[acoustic panther]

can i only place one forge of the sky

[real mango]

I just spent the past 7/8hrs building and rebuilding and tweaking and swapping around stuff in my valley and wuling factories, Im so exhausted but I think I finally got most of it down correctly. I've got the meds, the batts, and plenty of xiranite being made, just gotta hope that my batt consumption doesn't outdo my batt production

[nova lodge]

max is 2, after unlocking the techtree node for it.

[novel herald]

Yeee, but using sandleaf will only take more space right? Not reduce the xiranite output

[jovial breach]

there's no way for you to use more battery than production unless you're doing it for meme

[real mango]

You underestimate my adhd and empty brainness lmfao

[nova lodge]

you basically need 4:2 (planter:seeder) planting station to produce enough carbon to match wulling plants.
and even then, you might need just a bit more (since plant production is about 0.5 for the planter every 2 sec).

so unless you setup TONS of plantation for sandleaf, it won't match, and reduce your xiranite production output
while consuming more power of course.

[jovial breach]

as long as you're making 18/18/24 in valley and 12/6 in wuling you're good

[real mango]

I was losing what little sanity I have left trying to figure out a way to make constant and reliable power in wuling, what I have should work but I'll find out tmrrw lmfao

[winter trellis]

rip xyranite

[jovial breach]

you're making a bit too much component, also why is your battery theory is 24/min

[real mango]

I've got two things creating wuling batts and feeding them into the thermal bank, idk if it's gonna be worth 2k power but I'll see tmrrw when I wake up lol

[worn vapor]

8battery/2 components is impossible btw

[nova lodge]

his aic faked the production report.

[novel herald]

Mmmm I think right now I'm using around 9 total of planter + seeder. But I'm still sitting at 60 xiranite/min

[urban summit]

guys, I made a compack factory of (28x41) which produces 540 plants per min, is that too much? is for valley 4

[jovial breach]

no that means he has 4 battery machines placed down, which is not normal

[novel herald]

Do u need that much plants?

[nova lodge]

that's good, but there-in lies the issue, increased energy consumption.
still works though, as long as you can cover the production cost.

[marble yarrow]

i guess its a 7.5+2.25 ratio. which shows 8+2

[novel herald]

Oki"

[worn vapor]

I have 4 as well

[urban summit]

ye thats why im asking

[nova lodge]

as long as you achieve 60 xiranite production, that's the most important thing.

[winter trellis]

agree, I’m kinda lazy to tidy up.. i should've tho

[nova lodge]

perhaps for future plan lul

[novel herald]

If u need that much plants, then that's not too much

[trail grail]

Using sandleaf as your input primarily results in using an additional planter you don't need per setup, but I'd need to double check what Yuzukinata is saying about the valley 4 plants vs Wuling plants on carbon production

[worn vapor]

only 2 of them are actually running but I guess just having the battery machines turned on even if they aren't producing anything bumps up the theoretical

[jovial breach]

oh yeah there's a thing called future proof blueprint

[worn vapor]

because yeah

[nova lodge]

sandleaf production doesn't require any unloading nodes, so its fine to stack tons of it for deliveries as well.

[novel herald]

Both gets grinded into 2 carbon dust

[worn vapor]

we prepping for the future

[sudden egret]

But Wuling plants make 2 carbon instead of 1

[crimson inlet]

Both my ADHD and autism are fighting over whether I should try to work with this or not

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QGKjVRwkJ7pxd6S_w17jTlRBaTai71SxdY77seSOnRk/edit?usp=drivesdk

[nova lodge]

proceed to pack and redesign the base later in the future instead

[novel herald]

Sandleaf also grinds into 2 carbon dust right?

[worn vapor]

I mean probably

[sudden egret]

You misread me. I didn't say carbon dust, I said carbon

[novel herald]

Oh

[worn vapor]

I'm sure we'll get a different kind of wuling battery at some point

and then we will have to redesign everything again

[nova lodge]

yes, 1 carbon brick, 2 dust

[trail grail]

So Yazhen or... can't remember the other one gets refined into 2 carbon?

[sudden egret]

Jincao, yes

[novel herald]

Do u need to grind wuling plants? Or u can turn em into carbon blocks directly?

[sudden egret]

Plant -> Refine -> Grind gets you 4 dust

[trail grail]

That is much more power efficient then, need to update my setups lmao

Could anyone explain the water output rate, like how many times can I split one water pump

[sudden egret]

Also dramatically more space efficient

[novel herald]

On paper? 4

[sudden egret]

1 pump can reliably keep 2 buildings powered

[nova lodge]

welp, gonna be away for a bit, need to do something.
maybe will share some of my builds here later. (not the best, but its space efficient enough for the role).

[trail grail]

This seems to reflect my experience as well

[crimson inlet]

I'm making this in my phone so I'm hibdered by how docs work in a app based compared to pc's web based

[marble yarrow]

pump generates 1/s. facilities use 0.5/s

[inner parcel]

doesnt a splitter split into 3?

[novel herald]

Yep

[sudden egret]

But splitters don't' increase output

[novel herald]

Can go 2 2 splitter

[jovial breach]

pump is 1/s, pipe is 2/s, machines use 0.5/s

[trail grail]

The pump claims it's 1/s but the pipes can move 2/s,

[inner parcel]

oh yeah

[novel herald]

2 pumps goes into 1 pipe then split into 4

[sudden egret]

Basically, 1:2 ratio for Pumps/Buildings is how I reliably do things

[nova lodge]

1 pipe only channels 2 unit per sec....for water.
so its pointless to use a converger under most cases.

[steady oak]

Is making canned citrome and buck pill A and purple batteries really necessary before moving to wuling?

[sudden egret]

Nope, it''s only if you want to sell for V4 stockbills

[jovial breach]

and for some fucking reason fluid supply unit is 3/s

[worn vapor]

I think with the layout I have now I can scale up to 5 battery lines of the current wuling batteries (30 battery/min) so unless they add a new battery type I should be chilling for a while.

[novel herald]

No, but if u want to get all valley stock bill u can get, u have to

[steady oak]

Yeah i do want that but im only running 2 buck a setups but do i really need to make citrome stuff?

[trail grail]

no

[sudden egret]

Citrome C is simply just because there''s no other use for amethyst

[novel herald]

Citrome no

[trail grail]

you could also make buck C, it doesn't matter

[worn vapor]

the only thing I would have to do is move where my Jincao farm is but I have plenty of room on the far side of the aic area to move them so

[steady oak]

I already maxed outpost level before going to wuling so i just need the money before i regret something

[novel herald]

Just make sure u're producing more than 2k stock bill worth of items per minute

[sudden egret]

Then your average settup does the following
18/m HC Bats
18/m Buck [A]
24/m Citrome [C]

[trail grail]

Is there a difference between Jincao drink max production and Yazhen syringe?

[novel herald]

All outpost combined with max buff will need 1992 stock bill worth of items/min

[crimson inlet]

valley stock doesn't work in wuling

[novel herald]

No

[sudden egret]

Only if you plan to use them, otherwise no

[steady oak]

Do i need to achive all 3 or just need to achive one of those

[worn vapor]

I could honestly probably condense my xiranite line as well and save more space but I cba rn

[steady oak]

I meant for when i want to buy something from valley but am in wuling

[sudden egret]

I don't know how much of that you need. As long as you''re overproducing items to sell for stockbills

[elder flame]

how much water does a sprinkler need? I cannot imagine you need to keep watering the plant

[steady oak]

What do i need to achive before going to wuling though?

[jovial breach]

that's the goal for valley production

[novel herald]

18/m battery and buck A will be enough

No need citrome

Dat's more than 2k stockbill/min

[crimson inlet]

constant supply of HC bats to kickstart some heavy setups

[worn vapor]

whatever you want, I went to Wuling and did that first before I ever even touched Valley IV

[sudden egret]

What do you mean? You don''t have to achieve anything to go to Wuling other than finishing V4 story. I haven't mathed how much of each item you need to produce in over to overproduce the outposts

[signal reef]

depending on the operators you have you might want to switch to an operator that gets you more bills when selling and then the default operator for the outpost to earn more bills

[jovial breach]

first just do 18/min battery and 12/min buck A, you can add another buck A line when you unlock for space

[crimson inlet]

then transfer them manually in OMV Dijiang

[jovial breach]

you dont really need to transfer battery to wuling, the battery there is more than enough

[worn vapor]

to quote the penguinistrator

[crimson inlet]

its more like starting off in wuling

once you produce a constant supply of LC in wuling, you should stop transferring HC

[novel herald]

It's comfortable to bring some to start ur factory. It's hard to start from 200 energy only

Just 100 is enough. It'll power ur factory for 1 hour

[trail grail]

You can bring like 200 HC batteries and as long as you unlock all the necessary mining locations you can immediately make the LC batteries

^

[jovial breach]

true yeah, i was using orginium for power back then

[solid imp]

LC batteries in wuling? With what amethyst?

[crimson inlet]

no... originum and xirenite

[trail grail]

Only thing is if you want to be optimum mcgee then you want to be meta-transferring ferrium to Wuling, but if you don't care then that's chill

[marble yarrow]

pump it

[signal reef]

LC Wuling batteries, not LC Valleys

[novel herald]

Different recipe, it's wuling battery

[solid imp]

Oh yeah i forgot they're called LC lol

[elder flame]

^

[solid imp]

I just call em xiranite batteries

[crimson inlet]

Xian bat

[jovial breach]

xir batter

[crimson inlet]

Gimme more sky forges

[signal reef]

if you let the pump take its time beforehand 1 single pump is enough to sustain 10 different sprinklers, it just takes a while for it to fill at first

[novel herald]

U can force unlock the 3rd sky forge (just kidding, we all are suffering)

[nova lodge]

just add a fluid tank for your main line.
preferably 2.
this way, it will maintain consistent sprinkles after the 1st run.

[crimson inlet]

A 3rd....

[solid imp]

I wonder if we'll be locked to 60/m xiranite forever or if they'll add more complex but more efficient xiranite recipes later

[jovial breach]

you only water plants like once every few hours, even 1 pump is overkill

[small creek]

how much xiranite do i need stocked up for building, will 1k do?

[trail grail]

honestly this would be more interesting than just allowing more sky forges

[novel herald]

I'm guessing they'll add more sky forges

[crimson inlet]

what would be more efficient than some plants and water?

[nova lodge]

depends on you, the more the better.

[elder flame]

oki

[trail grail]

for currently available recipes 1k is probably enough, is xiranite used for any buildings other than the relay and pylon?

[elder flame]

it just doesnt water for large periods of time?

[signal reef]

maybe there'll be a reactor crucible equivalent for the forge

[crimson inlet]

nope, just those for buildings

atm

[signal reef]

does 2 different xiranite at once

[marble yarrow]

doing a net-positive xiranite so i can store for next version

[small creek]

i guess the depot bus as well

[crimson inlet]

this too

[nova lodge]

it will stop after a while of sprinkling.
doubt it will use up all 500 units in the storage tank for all the fields.

[trail grail]

even if you somehow run out of xiranite, just split a line for like a night and you'll be good the next day

[signal reef]

the sprinkler itself holds 50 and it won't use all 50 units

[jovial breach]

do you guys go collect shit daily for fertilizer

[trail grail]

you guys use the actual farm?

[signal reef]

furthermore, in the case of amber rice where multiple waterings are needed it only waters every 4 hours anyway

[nova lodge]

too much trouble to collect poop ;v

[crimson inlet]

wishin a ranch rn

[worn vapor]

hell no

[crimson inlet]

yes, for fluffed jincao

powder

[trail grail]

that's just healing, no?

[crimson inlet]

yep, just healing

[gusty lion]

wait for wuling expansions aic says "coming soon"

[vapid dock]

Yes

[crimson inlet]

its better than any in terms of crafting ease and health givin

[jovial breach]

it's the best heal item you can semi automate produce

[turbid lance]

There's a spot south part of Wuling where there's a good amount of buffalos, incase you ever awnted fertilizers

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mildy-concerned-cat-gif-9804173213252285471

[trail grail]

just don't take damage guys /j

[crimson inlet]

this man is a completionist

[worn vapor]

I wonder how many people haven't even looked at this since the tutorial

[trail grail]

but the orobyls

[small creek]

im just gonna stockpile 1k and turn everything on again

[crimson inlet]

My graphics is so aahh, I can't see the indicators half of the time and rely on timing

[jovial breach]

only 1k?

[trail grail]

I see the indicators and still get my face slapped 😔

[small creek]

i was slowly losing xiranite cus my prod was 59/min

[signal reef]

in my defence i only started caring about the farm 2 days ago

[frail trail]

when doing metastorage to wuling, should I be transferring ferrium ore, ferrium or bottle?

[small creek]

i mean yea for now

[worn vapor]

the Oroberyls must grow

[trail grail]

ferrium

[small creek]

i dont immediately need xiranite

just some reserve for when i suddenly need to craft depot or relays

[small creek]

ferrium

[jovial breach]

same thing. 1500 ore or 750 bottle

[small creek]

maybe i should start manually importing ferrium as well

[signal reef]

i am still waiting for the curveball when the new area opens up and suddenly we're using cryston bottles with amethyst spots

[crimson inlet]

I like how I'm at the point of relying on Lava cake's enchanced skill to deal massive damage because of the Factory's capability of manufacturing xirenite comps for gears

[smoky rain]

I dont have to worry about making citrome/aketine in the factory right?

[trail grail]

the math works out differently due to it being hourly though, as well as the 30/m ferrium ore yield you'd not be using

[marble yarrow]

monitoring the ore is easier. than importing processed products

[smoky rain]

for endgame

[nova lodge]

i am still wondering the need for using regular transfer over using meta storage transfers....

[trail grail]

aketine only if you want more bombs, otherwise yes

[small creek]

its just cope for when u dont have metastorage yet

[frail trail]

so what if I transfer ore, ferrium and bottle manually

[trail grail]

being a brokie

[autumn estuary]

What even is the point if item control port😭

[trail grail]

you technically could, I wouldn't recommend

[trail grail]

marking outputs for AIC in blueprint /j

[small creek]

u can do some niche things with it

[frail trail]

lemme get out the pen and paper

[trail grail]

I've seen it used mainly for toggling certain lines on/off

[autumn estuary]

Like what?

[nova lodge]

you can.....just a hassle

[small creek]

personally i use the counter to make a specific amount of liquid xiranite

[vapid dock]

Regular transfer should have alot more capacity than meta storage. Could make for some interesting inter regional metrics

[crimson inlet]

I use them to not feed my 2nd wuling bat line

[crimson inlet]

dis too

[turbid lance]

Controls the amount of items you select to pass through

[nova lodge]

i just store my liquid xiranite in a storage tank....and that's that.

[autumn estuary]

I thoughy control item port is anything that isn't that item gets moved to the side or smt like a overflow

[jovial breach]

oh is that because you cant completely cut bottle line in wuling?

[worn vapor]

splitter the wrong way

[autumn estuary]

Yeah but whats the point😭

[trail grail]

Is your pipe splitter rotated the right way

[vapid dock]

Wtf is that andre jumpscare

[crimson inlet]

check the pipe splitter or you're over consuming

[nova lodge]

wrong splitter way

[worn vapor]

def not overconsuming

that pump only is going the one way

[nova lodge]

i know there is an issue with converger pipe bug, where there is no water being transferred if there is too much pipe connection though.

[worn vapor]

into the splitter thats rotated the wrong way

[crimson inlet]

this would be wonderful for belts that have 2 items

[autumn estuary]

It isn't a thing sadly😭

I want over flow for me battery farm

[crimson inlet]

I build my stuff like a Mindustry player

[autumn estuary]

Same

[trail grail]

basically, you have an extra 30/m ferrium ore in wuling that you can't use for producing bottles at 100% efficiency because there's no additional ferrium (they want 60/m ferrium to create bottles), so by transferring 1500 ferrium every hour you can reach 100% efficency for the majority of the hour until you do eventually run out; but you can run it for longer vs just transferring bottles

[crimson inlet]

attempt to imrpove the 2nd pic, stuck to 2nd pic

[trail grail]

that said, I haven't done the math, that's more my intuition on it, but it make sense to me

[jovial breach]

mindustry players

[crimson inlet]

I play Mindustry (free in phone) and Factorio (cracked)

[trail grail]

honestly my designs are pretty ugly, but they work lmao

[crimson inlet]

I wanna play Satisfactory, but my laptop is brokie broke

[signal reef]

i tried the circuit that limits the ferrium flow and changes the rate of use from 120 to 115, but i haven't actually checked if it was more effective than just letting it run at 120

[turbid lance]

Wish we could use water to also improve V4 plants

[trail grail]

theoretically it has 100% uptime at like 5.75/m production so yes it is more efficient

that said, I want someone to make a video explaining that kind of tech so I can use it myself because I don't want to just copy blueprints

[crimson inlet]

wait, are belt balancers actually useful in the factory

I don't wanna reduce more of my sanity making those

[trail grail]

balancers?

[spice tartan]

Got jebaited into thinking the shredder could shred the rare plants (Fluffed/Thorny/Umbraline & Firebuckle)

[crimson inlet]

like, controling the flow of items to the facilties to keep the efficiency in both production and nat/mat usage

[trail grail]

this was my general sentiment, it really sucks that all the wuling tech stays in wuling, would be awesome if we see some kind of backwards updates to our factories, that said, not a huge deal

[marble yarrow]

yes it is

[crimson inlet]

[marble yarrow]

you can ratio divide items

[solid imp]

No not really

Very rarely

[trail grail]

outside of like very niche cases I'd say not really

[crimson inlet]

damn, I have 2 choices:

• not do anything
• cracktorio in an anime game

[trail grail]

like I'm sure you could theoretically maximize your originium usage in valley 4 to make origocrust and not over-use with a similar concept but like, why

[signal reef]

so far the one in the example i talked about isn't too complicated, the one i did just looked like this

but i guess it can get a lot more complicated later on

[jovial breach]

i still dont get how is it more efficient, you have a fixed initial ferrium amount no?

[turbid lance]

I do feel like the belts rn is a very limiting factor

[trail grail]

I don't really get what is happening in this ss ngl

[turbid lance]

I need faster belts

[marble yarrow]

because 115/min of ferrium ore usage doesnt make you worry

[jovial breach]

this is just ROUTER spam

[marble yarrow]

@signal reef this is my 115/min config

[jovial breach]

[crimson inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/mildy-concerned-cat-gif-9804173213252285471

[solid imp]

The monkeys paw curls and they add faster belts but they only do 40/m so they're still useless and just mess up ratios

[signal reef]

i modified the mechanism, it's originally taken from kyostin's vid

[trail grail]

is there somewhere someone has explained the math behind this and how to do this or

[trail grail]

I saw that video but I didn't really understand how it works

[crimson inlet]

MAH GAWD, THE MINDUSTRY PLAYERS ARE SPAMMING THEIR TECHNIQUE

[solid imp]

Don't worry about it, it's a balancer that is never really needed for normal play unless you're showing off

[novel herald]

It says 115/min in aic report?

[trail grail]

I understand it's purpose and what it does, but more so I want to know how to do it in the off-chance it becomes useful after wuling again

[vapid dock]

Wheres my underground belts

[crimson inlet]

=

[trail grail]

I need multi-layer belts

[crimson inlet]

this is what I'm seeing rn