#aic-factory
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Yep
I just got here but did anyone point out the 1 sandleaf unloader per 1 sandleaf dust lel
eventually your valley 4 will be built enough that you are gona want a lot of power but that will happen naturally as you build better more efficient factories
Xiranite's limit is 60/min?
mine uses 5.02k power atm
I actually did not notice that
The I have too much sandleaf and I want clogs setup
Unfortunately
I think i've seen a lay out like this before somewhere! I really wish the game would have us look at blueprints through in-game of others easily accessible
one unloader can feed 2 shredders?
One shredder can feed 3 grinders
shredding 1 sandleaf gives 3 dust lanes at full rate
1 unloader -> 1 shredder -> 3 grinders
Yep it’s pretty much the most efficient you can get rn, and yeah a lil bit of development is still required, like the ease of access between the community could be better
Anyways thats for the future
You can do a lot more with your factory, grow it
The factory must grow
woops. i forgot to clean my room out of excitement

oh okay, now I know how to make it more compact
holy, my pc almost died trying to copy this
Endfield is the best thing that’s happened in a while my factorio years are finally being put to good use ❤️🩹
the factory must grow!
The factory must grow
the 1 shredder to 3 grinder rule only applies to plants right?
specifically sandleaf only
buckflowers for example grind into 2 powders
so that'd be 2 output belts instead of 3
Check the recipe to see how much you get per item
I think sand leaf is 3, buck is 2 or somtin like that
man.. I either have to kill 24 ziplines or feed a 2nd thermal bank and have way too much power 
Do u really need the ziplines tho
Can't you just kill the tower that's connected to the zip?
Or you combine zip with mines?
1:1 for all ore
1:2 for all plants
except sandleaf alone which is 1:3, true to its name
yeah I can turn em off, but ya know they won't be usable
I thought hard and ye they've been huge QoL
Guys! Help please!
How my friend can share his base code with me? Is there an option for that?
Not off but like disassemble then just put tower back later, only works if tower are exclusive to zip, if mines are connected to it too then welp.
effectively the same tho, at least turning em off means I won't have to place them again
but yeah each zip has its own pylon
anyway I settled with the 2nd thermal
absolute cinema
for 10/min batts and 1/min components
If I had my way I could make an intercontinental ballistic train zipline service across the entire world of Talos 2
And it would be very easy
my originium ore supply is slowly dying from running 3 hc battery lines
it's supposed to be positive yield, are you making other originium stuff?
180/min per HC, 3x is 540, and we have 560 max yield
So mobile don’t have replicate button ?
Anyone have a Buck C and Citron C factory specifically for power plat? Just wanna dump my Amethyst into something
Im gonna have to delete my SC Battery lines
it does, bulk select and there's a copy button
you don't need SC batteries at all if you have 3 HC battery lines running
u need two lines coming off that sandleaf shredder for the ferrium grinders
does splitting 1 line into 2 not work?
Nah because the one line only runs 30/min
Thanks ☺️
Guys how much Buck A unit do you guys have
Even if the shredder produces 90/min it can’t take it all out
Uhh I just sold most of it but like 11k
yeah it was not working
I just spammed amethyst parts since those get used for crafting anyway
and you can still sell 160k worth of it daily
18/min, the usual endgame setup
Js ur backpack
Clear out all the stuff you don’t need and fill back up if you remove some you need
in other words quickstash then put back your bottles lol
im trying to make yazhen but im making 80 ferrium/min usage is 120 is this normal
Done
yep, with ferrium metastorage your yield would effectively be 115/min even if it doesn't reflect in the AIC report
yes, you need to metatransfer ferrium to subsidize your loss
Can I see
It's normal to consume 120/min ferrium, but 80/min yield is not, should be 90/min yield
still a hair negative tho
yeah, you make 5.75/min after ur ferrium ore runs out, close enough to still cap stocks
sorry I'm in bed lol, no saved screenshot of it
Done 👍
looks awesome 
but you don't need an unloader for sandleaf and buckflower if it's being fed into a 3 facility loop setup anyway
the loop setup is self sustainable
you either use sandleaf unloader straight into a shredder (with sandleaf loop getting stashed elsewhere)
or use the loop setup without unloaders
chat is this good enough for power for now
A bit overkill
you can just connect 3 lines from those machines straight to the packaging unit lol, also delete some thermal banks just need 3 or 4
i havent unlocked that yet
so im just making do with what i have rn
guys for 6 * from mail what the one is good support ?
that's the packaging unit which you're making battery with
How many orig per min
It should cost u around 540
Show who you have
Max is 560
btw how do you check character you dont own 
Click on the gacha banner
oh i thought you meant merging the belts together my bad
here
You're good with surtr team, your best option now is just get eyja dupe and upgrade her potential, other options are saving it for later when you want to build a 2nd team (physical team or LR cryo team) but those will take a while
should i follow chatgpt ideias and builds?
so uh like this
say i want to get physical should i get mr pog?
Move the packaging unit to the left, then connect all machines straight to it, no need to make it like that 
Yes Pog > Lifeng for physical team
is this whati should be targeting for valley IV
btw what team to build from physical team?
Check the teambuilding link in #help pins
you could be making 24 citrome C but otherwise that looks good
yeah, no more space lmao
Pog Chen Lifeng, 4th slot can be Endmin or Da Pan
If you dont have Lifeng you can use Eyja instead
dont have eyja too
ardelia will be said you keep referring to her as eyja
oh never play arknight
oh you dont want to know what my friends call her ||deaf woman||

Man, pog animations are eye candy but Chen will always be better as the controlled character 😔
Guys I just unlocked wuling AIC should I use my xiarite relays ? Orr just the normal ones
K ty
i got to depot and area expansion 1 for my PAC at the hub. i am grinding sc batteriess now what should i do?
THE TRANSPORT IS DONE. I DONT HAVE TO WALK ANYMORE.
Have you gotten 2nd subpac?
oh ye i think i have two subpacs the refugee camp and the infra-station
blue one
i cant get purple cause no yellow flower
and i havent been doing anything in my subpacs so idk
Oh lol then you're fine as long as you can make those
should i upgrade my subpacs now or keep getting more space and depots on my main pac
Now it's just a rush to power plateu gameplay and unlock sandleaf asap
oh ok so just quest grind ig?
Keep making sc battery while you progress
Try to unlock 1 expansion and 1 depot bus for main aic
For subpac same thing, but lower prio
ok bet
ORIG ORE MIN 833?
You're using too much 
i bet in 2 weeks people are going to start complaining "ther'e's nothing to do" after having 200 hours played
HOW? USAGE I DONT KNOW
does this mean it got used 10 times? or repaired 10 times? i ve put this up for like 3 minutes
POWER
oh its the power consumption ? thx
Repaired 10 times. Possibly used more than that.
xD bruh
the power is fine tho. it recharges back to 100%
using some meta bps
sc valley x4 build
4.31k power
No way you're using the Chinese power tech

i am
they smart af
dw i ve optimized factory gaming like 60h+ in total. but my dumbass isnt smart enough to do 18/18/24 or the wuling one

Just copy some bp?
i did copy some bp at the end ye
I still have power plateu to fill up yet im running out of stocks in valley
stock bills needs to grow afterall
They're slightly outgrowing my trade tho
Im also making 18/18/24
Probably bc im burning too much battery
time to delay them
And too lazy to get things optimized
there is a way with splitters, and also the protocol stash. bu i dont udnerstand the protocol stash method xD
https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467843941297684480 i can post this right?
show us what u r producing in your report
huh odd. i cant add that to my post, but i can comment it?
is anybody else able to put a link into a post? or is it just me?
Is there a machine or upgrade that allows you to automatically place plants in the seed collector or seeds in the cultivation unit?
You make a loopfarm
anybody got hcbatt bp
Place seed picking unit between 2 planting units and connect the belt, then 1 planting connect back to seed picking, the other plant go out for use
can we see how much stuff make per minute ?
Esc -> aic reports
Thank you. The arrows indicating a conveyor belt don't appear until you place one machine behind the other. I had them placed side by side.
then we cant help u
Damm the factory chat is not growing.
Not being able to mirror buildings & blueprints is gunna drive me nuts.
Like the planter-seeder-planter loop was so neat in Valley IV but in Wuling... water pipes.
Yes
I have a clean(?) Set up... I don't know if it's really clean tho
Well not really clean cuz its almost the same as non water
While I am stockpiling gear components in Wuling, is there anything useful I can do with this excess Originium? Currently making Syringes 3/min, Wuling Batteries 6/min, and Xirinite components 3/min. Getting bottlenecked by xiranite and ferrium. Can't think of anything useful to do with the excess ore until the components are done and I can convert those resources to a second battery production line.
yeah I guess I could do that, I have power to spare too
I maxed origocrust for the hell of it over night lol
true
My main Wuling area is nearly maxed out on protocol capacity so I am def using that power haha
37 ziplines and several sprinklers + random other stuff
any reason why the water isnt going through?
Check its direction
is there any way to increase how many defense turrents I can put down in the aic?
factories stay running if you leave the game right? yay ty
Do the warning defence
Ah ok
imma uninstall epic
Try replacing the empty pipe, bug happened to me alot
water pipes cant atraight forever, idk the distance but happened to me
so how long is yours
So I reached a point where my protocol stashes are filled with steel bottles but because my bottles are at 80k rn, it stops all buck production entirely. How do I solve this problem
it shouldn't cause issues unless theres a fundamental issue
I mean, I haven't started Wuling yet, so I'll probably start it now and dump all of my bottles there
thats 76 manual full inventory transfers
wait no 18 cause smaller depot
also wulung cant use steel bottles
Wait, there's no way to bulk transfer?
they use basic ferrium
Fck
bulk is 1.35k
Hmm
i have a question, in the areas that do not have an aic or sub pac, how do you power the mining rigs there?
bring from over region
yes
Wherever is most comfortable for you to wire from
for origin you just drag it from entrance
i shee
sorry im too impatient and i cant get more levels to get level 43 and unlock wuling soon
im just connecting all ore locations to pass time
I used that famous blueprint
wuling story is like
no im not afraid of wuling story. it's just the time to get exp 
4 hr long wth occasional skip
the main auth lvl wall is 51 since no more story to give free xp
...which one
did you make sure to
copy the sub pac ones too
or did you only do main
cause mega base bp tend to use all pac
I already copied the sub PACs from the first LV 34
i just want to get to the place where sandflower is
thats lvl 34 in power plat
wuling should be pretty simple, you need 2x battery farms, 1x syringe and 1x component
you get sandleaf in valley not wuling
you can get it in both o.o
but valley earlier
you telling me... i wasted time?!

you find it the moment you walk into power
sandleaf is right in the rice farms next to the main hub in wuling
wait where. i have snuck into every corner of power
it's also in the later maps in valley 4
sandleaf is in power plateau
You can just carry 50 in your bag and clone it in wuling
plateau trunkway i found some
It’s legit just dead center
show me?!
you only need 1 tbh
You can find like 7 near the delivery depot
yeah the tp near the depot has a bunch
^ literally i just use the aic planter to dupe
yeah i know i oinly need one but I CANT FIND IT
or the tp right as you enter powerplant has a bunch as well
what the FUCK
You know the cliff when you first enter? It’s right there
I mean if you drag it from the storage it's always 50 then split option 
Sir that’s the exit
that's it im logging off.


I think you had enough endfield for today
ive been playing endfield for
min 0?
39 hours
How many twitch drops can I get
straight

you aint got no ore lieutenant dan
thats your usage so unless youre using those items its gonna say 0
And yet you walk past the sand leaf that is intentionally placed in the entrance to power
originium ore need map valley IV?
it blended in the colours
im colourblind too

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466125655941976135/1466125656386568213/V4_OUTPUT.png?ex=6986276b&is=6984d5eb&hm=971bf8797339bc4fc47073fee74eb04cf8d56296f08134b3d022128e37213144&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1485&height=1160 https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135
^ that's V4
ok
what build?
click on the link..?
Ok, I realized that the subpac for the lv11 dev base is VERY diff from the lv 34 only one
backcapsule a and hc valley battery what build
idek what to build on these, any suggestions?
do you mean blueprint?
yes
click on "switch goods" to find what the outposts accept
click on the 100% link and it has all the blueprints there
Basically everything ever
do i build these two highest then?
Make the orang medicine
yeah, for valley 4 you want 1/2 batteries and 1/2 buck capsules, the tier goes up every time the outpost levels up, so right now they want buckC and SC Bats
did you give the panda some honey..? bro he aint winnie the pooh
for the outposts, is it wiser to expand them first before doing anything?
you won't need to, because the early tier items don't take up much space
Your also supposed to have done them as you did story prog so your factory would match the desired product
ok
min 6 after or min 0? my think
see, the people here earlier told me to never touch factory until wuling. you guys are telling me the opposite...
@scenic comet
Outposts take 3-4 days to max out
Those people were stupid ngl
You can only skip it for last of you have intricate knowledge of factory building techniques
and they kept on shaming me aswell for not knowing anything 
@scenic comet
You don't deserve to be shamed for that lol
People who use blue prints are supposed to do it as they go btw
Also yes blue prints are fantastic!
that's so mean
You can ONLY skip if your an experienced factory builder
Since you will otherwise spend 2 hours building a soon to be outdated factory
i am an experienced blueprint copy paster
to the point where i got so frustrated so i removed everything

The main thing is wiring up to mines and upgrading batteries
People who shame you for not knowing are the people you do NOT want advice from btw
what do you guys recommend to build on this core aic thing...
Batteries
People with the biggest ego tend to lack a ton of knowledge
They are your power and they are your money
How do I build and plop down more aics
in the core aic?
Story progress
Side quest and story
I like watching the little boxes move around all the lanes everywhere

it's very satisfactory satisfying for sure
like atp i cant even find blueprints cuz i dont see asia people here... the asia people here that i talked to were the ones who shamed me btw...
it's honestly so weird that blueprint codes differ between servers
another question, are there more factory blueprints in wuling that i haven't unlocked yet>?
Asia people are more cracked but at the cost of some higher egos
Most insane teams or bps are Asia based
Any Zipliners here? I ziplined all the rare ore spots, even connecting different maps so you dont have to waypoint around: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgYzzOxeY8U
Collect all your Rare Ores Flowers, Mushrooms in just 20 minutes with the power of Ziplines.
00:00 Originium Science Park
01:13 Origin Lodespring
03:03 Power Plateau
03:48 Aburrey Quarry
04:34 The Hub
06:34 Valley Pass
06:57 I talk again
What is even the point of mentioning that bro ngl
he was making a point because most of the people who tried helping me here earlier were from asia servers and like 3/5 of them mocked me for not reaching wuling story and not unlocking everything first before starting factory
now im short of those valley credits and i cant do anything :/
Idk
That's odd
But yeah you should only rush the story if your aren’t a casual
If your a casual you want to take it slow
Only the people aiming to compete in the top ladder stuff should rush
Unless you want levy
If you want levy rush for the pulls
Generally in a channel like this people are nonetheless will act like a smartass
not ones who will consider your playstyle like in general chat
not considering myself a zipliner (yet), but I reaaally need to start playing ziplines, walking over to certain spots suuucks
it cut down gathering all rare mats from almost 2 hours to just 20 minutes. But placing all ziplines optimally took a lot of time. If you place them how I did it, it should be faster for people.
You can make it in valley IV
do you have like a blueprint that i can maybe copy?
i kinda wanna have valley credits and stuff
yeah, but I can't get on PC rn it's 5 AM
You need sand leaf btw
You can look in #1465229737642164386 or #1461542035617091681
Everything you need will be there
are the ones that they built in wuling also be built in valley?
Is there any way to farm batteries or do something useful that I can sell and grow my base?
I want to get that money
You mean like can the factories that are introduced in wuling be built in valley?
Wuling uses different mats and production
If that's the question then no unfortunately
yes
They make actively different products
cuz most of them are like built in wuling
And they dont share a depot
the ones that are built in valley are all made in NA and stuff
might take some... inspiration from your video then, I don't think I'd do a great job placing them down myself
im asia
Most of the CBT people are in Asia I believe
Being a casual in Asia makes things hard
Since most of the casuals that can help are in NA/EU
It's generally not a good idea I mean it's a 200 ping deficit
It’s also in the middle of day for NA
?
I just woke up and most Asians are starting to aswell
It’s either dead in the night or early morning for most Asia rn
Tell us the cheetos secret
can yall show how you have setup your thermal plant
playing a factory sim at a factory is a flex
just unlocked lc battery
Was lc wuling again or
it ain't a flex, it's a pain cuz i know the moment i clock out of work, i clock in endfield

fair
the thought is pretty funny though
Endmin IRL, Operator in-game 
Uhhhh.....
Map is so sterile it can be used as a surgical instruments straight out of an autoclave
just a normal day in wuling
This died after he posted that
So, combat facilities, i heard grenade is good for tying enemies down, is the sonic tower better?
is there any actual point to the depot loader? the PAC cores seem to have more then enough loading slots and the stashes can do that.
almost none, but doesn't cost power vs depot stash and might be closer/takes less space than the PAC
so hyper situational, got it.
ye, uses depot bus space tho which can suck
Wait, the suppose yield of Originium Ores in Wulinf is 350/min, right ?
it's a clean 360
HE nades just deal aoe dmg, marsh gas is the go-to for slow
if you mean CC
my friend said he found an infinite machine and this is what he sent me.
Yeah loaders are ultra-niche. Maybe there's only a time slot along hte depot bus that you can use to refine amethyst or something, but can't pipe it to a proto-storage or something like that. Such a niche use that it can barely be considered useful in any way
Huh, am I missing one vein somewhere ?
either that or region level turning some low into high purity
Regional Lvl?
6
maybe new riggable spots popped up on places you already rigged before
Missing orig ore then
Oh might missed 
I bet you it's the deposit south of wuling city
is it worth doubling up on refining units for a single molder to increase speed? seems like in terms of power effeciency I should be using 2 refining units per moulding unit, but I am just not really sure
Welp, time to explore
Generally yeah. You want to maximize ratios
Just check at the map
No need to go there manually
Eh wait
yep, you do this for all formulas along the production line that don't have a 1:1 ratio
Let me know if you have a fogged out area south of Wuling City
You do need to place it 
That's what I'm doing, and they are all rigged
What's the quest called ?
Destroy the wall
How much xiranite bat and spray should I be producing to maximise profits from outpost?
Cos like
I'm low on money
From gear artificing
And I think I'm not selling enough
I like how you and I knew right away too
Not a quest
A wall
Attack it
It's always that spot
BEcause this morning I did go "What's that fog over there ?"
i found that out thanks to a Memo Beacon while setting up Rigs
OH YOU MOTHE-
Yeah
There's like green lamps everywhere
And sometimes, they have a trail pointing somewhere
That means there's a illusionary wall in the direction of the trail
Usually very these lamps with trails are very proximal to the wall
Yup, that little device there was trying to tell you it was a false walll
Ja
The fact that for the past 2 days I remembered going "That's one odd looking wall"
Gamer senses
It won't' help, but that little device with the green beam was trying to tell you the wall was false
like 10-12/min batts and 5-6/min spray
10-12 depending on thermal bank usage or if you're making components on the side, 5-6 depending on if you're using 120/min ferrium for spray
I'm sure it'll highlight when you're using a scanner a few meters from it.
Yeah,the xiranite lantern and it has a tutorial too
Theoretical data says I'm using 120 min ferium ja
Mm I go and check
Yeah, you will be
Thankee
Mm Im doing that
I'm glad the "gamer sense" has helped preventing a second Wuling incident this morning
I ran out of battery like nothing left, what can i do to restore power?
What incident?
Research thermal banks
"I can shut off the factory before going to bed. I will just turn it back on when the Originium Ores are stockpiled"
shut off factory
stash thermal banks since I assume they won't consume batteries for any kind of production
What could possibly goes wrong, right ?
buncha thermal banks, spam originium
to get your battery setup back up running
turn off all other facilities to lower consumption, we can do it in bulk now after recent patch
Oh nwo
I accidentally
Did that
Twice
Like I made a new build
But I forgot that it needed backup power before the build made batteries
Twice
Meanwhile, MY 25 MINING RIGS running at full power 
that's rough buddy
what is the rate that materials are dispensed from unloader? 1/sec?
Xd
i spent a couple days perfecting my factory in both regions, then shared it with this discord XD
30/min or 0.5/s
this is also how fast your mining rigs mines
I just troubleshoot the models this morning, I can toggle off the factories where my Originium and Xiranite operate at a surplus while LC batteries are okay at an equilibrium
I mean the dispensers at the factory. I am trying to figure out how much is actually being sent to production because the usage data does not seem to be correct
yeah it's 1 per 2s
I saw it too
so each one will spit out 30/min?
Chat is this real
yes
Anyone maximizing Buck A or med products I immediately asked "May I see your Ferrium report"
thank you
We are reshaping the entire ecosystem @vapid granite
not as impressive as everyone else's, but im still pretty early game lol
Does the factory keep running when I log out? Or do I have to leave the game running
go back to tavern
it keeps running as long as its self-sufficient, obviously if you run out of power it stops
I like it here better, I have been talking with like-minded people
Yes
on PLANETARY ENGINEERING
Also how do u increase the power output of the factory rn im at 200/200
based
when do i unlock buck A
When you get sandleaf
i have some in my depot, do i have to do anything with it
i cant even view the buck a recipe yet
You looked at Packaging unit recipes right?
actually wait
no
filling unit
packaging is batteries
I do have them but my battery ran out
You're supposed to be actively making batteries to replace the ones the banks use
I need like 3.9k power
if you don't have power to make any batteries
I did
holy there are so many uses for sandleaf
It ran out anyways
manually shut down buildings, and only turn on what you need to restart battery production
Alright thanks
load up the banks with any batteries you have, or orignium
we can bulk select and turn everything off at once now, so at least you've got that going for you
Also ensure you haven't fucked over battery delivery to your banks with fucked ass splitter daisy chains
Thanks
Is there a setup so the battery consumption is reduced (thermal banks)
i should stockpile some cryston parts/components and steel parts for crafting later down the line right?
Cus i usually just transfer it normally with the splitter
do i not need cryston components for crafting gear?
I''d need a SS of your splitter settup to banks
Not once you unlock wuling pac
oh so basically i just skip that tier then
Im not home right now but its just 4 thermal banks lined up with splitter going into each
If you can, but recent update should have gave you a bunch. Or you need to up your explorer level/authority level to get some for free
Just make at least 4 purple gear if you wanna complete Mission Nodes
yeah i got the free ones, ill just use those
W thanks
but i do want to stockpile steel parts yeah?
Ok so you made a classic mistake no biggie. But that 4th bank, is getting 1 battery per 16 made basically

You should have 3 splitters. 1 splitter goes into 2 other spliters directly. Then those 2 splitters directly enter a thermal bank
Splitters are dumb af, they will perfectly spread out what they recieve

So if you have 4 splitters in a row, the first one is always 50/50, so the 3rd splitter is getting every 4th battery
if the first bank clogs up, wouldnt the ones down the line start getting more?
Ohhh
for fluffly jincao, do i have to farm them regularly or is there a way to make it using planting/seeding units?
or is that not how splitters work
Eventually, but it''s unreliable
i see
It won't' fill up fast enough
You can grow them on the eco-farm I think but it's just a random chance when you plant jincao
so you're more inclined to try and actually split it up perfectly
anad if one aspect of it starts to falter, the last bank doesn''t get shit
This will guarentee no issues
1 belt can supply 20 banks?
That's a bad way to look at it
Instead, think of how many banks you need
If you have HC batteries that answer is 4 or 5 banks
Then set up your splitters for that
i see
But you do want to use splitters as sparingly as you can, and have it set up to split as evenly as possible for maximum reliability
1 packager can supply 4 banks
and for endgame valley 4, the products you'd want to mass produce for selling are buck A and C and HC batteries?
coolio
for xiranite farm i need 2 forge of sky but if i use 2 i dont left any for battery what can i do
yes
Yeah, you have to make that choice
wdym 12m and 6m bats
So your two forges, can sustain either 12/m of Xiranite batteries, but no gear
6/m batteries, and 3/m of gear
or 6/m of gear and no batteries
Or go the fancy route of 9/m batteries, and 1.5/m of gear
you can also do 8 batteries 2 gear
That's not the math
when do you unlock the first outpost for wuling?
I don't suppose there is a way to bridge this gap for power in Lodespring is there? Tried to maybe get lucky on some ledge somewhere, but nope...
Complete the quests
gotta 100% complete main story?
No not really
god you're gona make me go do it even though I just redid my wuling factory aren't you
I don't remember how much
not %100 but close
does anyone have a blueprint for beginner wuling sub-apc? no upgrades? photos after is my current setup on my main wuling base
gahhhh
Your factory is fine, but hte graphs can''t handle decimels
Really wish you could carry power over ziplines
If you even split 1 forge into a gaer and bat farm, you end up with 9/m of bats, and 1.5/m of gear
all my wuling sub-apc does is battery idk what to do with it
If you wuling base is making everything, don't consider the sub AIC right now
is sandleaf the most efficient way to get carbon powder because you can shred sandleaf > 3 input into refining?
Depends, you in wuling or v4
There isn't any item that lets you run faster at some point is there?
wuling
wuling plants give 2 carbon
nope
yea but i have lots of stuff that arent getting used at its potential
You can set up a zipline on both sides, and have a relay connected the long way around
which plants is it? I'm not seeing it in the database
any wuling specific plant (that aren't the special rare ones)
I guess, but you'r'e really only going to make 2 or 3 things right now
Bats, Gear, and Syringe/Juice
It won't show, but trust
is it from shredding? or refining?
Jincao or Yazhen are what most people use
refining gives 2 carbon
Wait is that true
yes
anyone has bp for the canned citrome for extra valley money ?
So wuling plant gives you 4 carbon powder per plant
I'm burning like 6 sandleafs per second rn that's a game changer
using the left resources that already been used for 18 bucpill and 18 battery
Not much of a blueprint to give. Ame ore -> Refine -> Mould -> Add Powder into filling
Isn't max output for refining 3, not 4?
ah, aight then I will recreate it myself
thanks
Wuling batteries gonna go out of control as soon as they put more Originium in the area
1 plant into refiner = 2 carbon, 2 carbon into 2 shredders = 4 carbon powder
still no i think
remember
Unlock more skyforges rather
I forgor
literally rn, my factory run 3 component and 6 battery
per min
30 xiranite each for component and batt
How does meta storage work by the way? The game does a bad job explaining it
but the stockbills for hte outpost will slowly rise
Same as regional tranfer, but instead of removing from your storage. It blinks the resources into existance
this
"you transfer materials without removing them from the first locations stock" so are you completely duping the items?
but if u need logic explanation, well
Yes, shit appears out of thin air

So there's no reason not to have meta storage on repeat sending raw materials to wuling to make more syringes
Is what I'm hearing
why not
Once you have meta transfer basically
I mean
yeah
not using meta storage for transferring ferrium is a negative income
since u can make ur ferrium on wuling to be 115/min
meta transfer is litereally free resources
I've seen people just straight transferring bottles instead
since ferrium on wuling only 90 / m
not sure what the difference is if any
from where
since u used all 1080 ferrium on valley
if u min max ur factory
Some people nuke their V4 output for wulling manual tranasfers
idk why, but their choice
valley IV kind of cooked atm unless you are buying the essense tickets
If meta storage makes shit from thin air can't you send the bottles without depleting your valley IV ferrium?
lemme get my bike first
and da drill
and da tree

Depends on the characters you're grinding for. I imagine a couple would like the engraving tickets within V4
smaller proportion
check the "size" in metastorage menu again
Ferrium is the best product you can send
its better to transfer raw

I never said it was the same size
Bottles are like 4 value or something like that
please read what I said again
Ferrium and Ferrium Ore are 1 value
wow there are instadeath cliffs that are only like 20ft above the city below? why is running power thru lodespring such a dickpunch?
and it is not like you can use the "but the space of the facilities!" excuse
It''s' best to just send Ferrium, (No need to send Ore, since Ferrium and Ferrium ore are equal value)
considering that you realisticially only need your PAC to produce everything
How do peoples have so much ferrium per minute? Do I need to unlock the second region to get that much too?
So its literally just a back track
regional level 12
and unlock all mining site
RDL11, and having every deposit
by progressing through the story
Each region is independent on their production
how do you level up region level
i forgot rdl 12 doesnt increase the purity anymore
Upgrade recycling centers, stock redistributers, depots, outposts
rdl11 and rigging up lodespring prolly the biggest jump
upgrade many facilities
The metrics used to determine the amount of Regional development EXP you get
and their totals
(this is Wuling)
I was stating people do it via meta transfer and I wasn't sure why they do it or what the difference was it is simply an option/ a choice some people have made
ohhh
i thought u were recommending it
my bad then

Yeah, meta transfer works on value of items, not amount of items

I remember sending bottles is objectively worse or something like that because of value difference
but that was like a week ago
so my memory could be bogged
bottle is 2
I just send the ferrium because its the easiest choice and things still run efficient enough anyway
Lets math it down
and thats 12.5 bottle / min
yeah
Besides, do you really think that content creators wouldn't jump on this little "hack" if it turned out to be actually better?
then everyone would hear about it
but
they'd probably jump on it even if it wasn't better
idk if it my algorithm or smth
i dont see any nerd cc yet on factory things
for ake ef
any cc I saw doing the trim only
not the factory aspect
the factory is pretty basic atm so there isn't much content to be made in that respect tbf
which is not a negative I am just stating how it is
I meant run faster to be able to make the jump to connect the power that way instead of needing to take it the long way around...
2 ferrium makes 1 bottle. If you can send half as many bottles as ferrium then it's the same efficiency
No that gap is way way to big
there is only so much content you can get out of showing efficient factories for the like handful of things you make at "endgame"
Then I have a relay at the top of this cliff and even jumping to a point 5 ft below the platform above is instant death so you can't run it down that way...
i mean, i can say that for the build aspect too
since, atm we dont have endgame content yet to sink that damage / build
but well, since char build is the more popular content.....
Just run it the long way round. There's nothing you can do afaik
the only thing factory does is make you stocks and gear components
character build content rn is just people going ember bad every 5 minutes (even though she is low key not bad at all and kind of underrated Ember enjoyers rise up)
depends
I already saw that vid
and no
There's a teleport point right at the top of the cliff right? Teleporting doesn't break power lines if you remain within 80m
the big dmg from ember on boss stagger is normal....
and the big dmg when phase 2 boss stager is from endmin crush
so...
and dont forget
that ember is crowned

do i skip sc batteries and go straight to hc?
If you can yeah
Nope. Different cliff.
nicee
I could switch over to batteries I guess
after hitting 48k
should be doable
switch to full batt
or I could stockpile some raw Xiranite for a bit
for buffer ?
like when u need to run both double batt and component at the same time ?
I should get around to levelling Ember next tbh, my phys team is the one team I haven't really worked on even though I have Pogy, Lifeng and Ember, and p5 Chen
, but I digress
i mean, its currently the most expensive team to build
it sink so much resources rather than lae team
I have every other team built tbf I am just kind of coasting until Yvonne banner since she is the only character I don't have atm
Basically having a bit on the side wouldn't be amiss, but I still have some time before I totally stall out on Components so I can figure it out
I just stopped leveling a lot of them at 60/80 because thats all they need to be functional and costs a fraction of the tcreds required to level 90 them
ah
I 90'd Last Rite and Laev and thats it
i forgot on team other than phys team, it only needs lvl 60 for teammate
and 90 for the hypercarry
I also have a level 75 Ardelia because I was leveling her and stopped and went wait this is getting kind of expensive maybe I won't
I mean, ardelia still usefull to get leveled until 80 iirc, since many player def use her for the upcoming umbral event
i've been here before I know whats gona happen if I keep trying to max every single character 
idk if it been changed but iirc u cant bring tactical to that endgame event
also yeah idk i've just been spending most of my spanity on the protocol space that gives tcreds

did u already bought all tcreds on valley
its expensive but well we didnt use valley bill anymore atm
yes
all connected zipline for delivery
you haven't activated the nodes for express zips?
Does anyone know what this means and if there's any way around it?
Will this setup make infinite plants?
it doesn't let you if you go over your power limit iirc
Well yes
But you should add another planting unit
no, the seeder spits out 2 seeds
you want 2 outputs coming from the seeder not the planter
1 lane loops and the other goes into a 2nd planter
For efficiency purposes?
planting units input to output is 1:1, unlike the seed picking which is 1:2
The 2nd output coming out from the planter is going to a shredder off-screen
so using 2 planting + 1 seeding (you can infinite chain one planting with the seeding then just use the other as pure output)
this halves the output rate though
planter should only have 1 output
which is why you need a 2nd planter
Ah

looks like too many things on the map
First time seeing wuling item this low
what's the highest your friends sell* it for
what node, I maxed out everything in wuling
guys I forgor, the buckcapsule A minmax is how much per min? 18?
the zipline nodes for autozipping. are they cryston zips?
How do I fix it?
ig it's just number of things, prolly need to expand the AIC area
It fits though?
is it bind in on quest?
ik it fits, doesn't mean there isn't a limit
general minmax yeah, 18 bucks 18 batts
Where do I check the limit?
look at the map and see if you go over the 200 cap
^
don't think so, you should be able to craft them with cryston parts
there's a limit to the number of facilities that can be powered per map
4K
how much conveyor belts of ferrium can be placed in wuling without overusage?
I need 500 ferrium per minute in wuling
transfer from IV
but I'm also fairly sure the cap goes up with bigger AIC area

Can't find it...
Is it this?
hmm
dammit why won't lvl 5 make all the mines high purity 🥀
it's probably an internal value tied to the AIC expansions
cuz if you haven't done any of those it'll probably be lower than if you had (for obvious reasons)
I've got a 4.6k on mine if you want the ID, if you haven't sold it yet lel
Yup
Sad i sold it already
But it's okay

Wuling update when
does anyone have a blueprint saved that is using amethyst still at a outpost?
Just get ferrrium already
Cuz i only have fwrrium blueprint
am I the only one who feels like SC batteries are a decent chunk more efficient than HC ones for the valley IV kind? I know wuling batteries exist, but pretty sure you can't just spam those rn so...
yes you are
like, I got SC 4x420 output down to ~11x15 area
which is waaaaaay less than the space needed to make HC ones, by over a factor of 4
Yup
https://dige.aunly.cn/?lang=en new autism just dropped
Less build time
holy autism
Simplified version for both usage and storages together
pretty sure SC uses 2:3 ratio but that works too
Why i didn't make HC battery
GRINDING UNIT IS SO BIG 💀
to me it's more the planting/seedpicking units that are the issue lol
granted you can stash those wherever you want to an extent but ye
Well we don't make them just for powering the factory
They sell for a chunk better than SC's
yeah I figured that much
but I was talking in terms of solely powering it cuz my setup inserts new battery into thermal banks every 40s
But they took 2 times for a SC battery
I think I made 4 iterations of the same HC setup cuz I kept getting bothered by how the planters looked kek
Also steel part i better use them for the Buck Capsule A
Easier to build cuz plant based
At endgame
You'd be making both HC and Buck A at 18/min

so these refresh daily?
where can i find yazhen plant?
Anywhere in wuling
Also use water mode to plant yazheng or jincao
nope, only the ones with the timer and they reset weekly
what made you think the daily goods reset daily shaking my smh my head
the amount of raw ore you get in valley iv is just too perfect for 18/m buck a and 18/m hc battery that i never even bothered with SC batteries much
HC batteries are just more efficient both for power and selling than SC batteries per raw resource. Way more than LC batteries too in regards to originium. And if you use all the originium for HC batteries you're still left with enough ferrum for 18/m buck a
No they lied 😭
this one is watermode right?
Wiring up Lodespring is quite possibly the worst gaming experience I've had in the last couple years. At every turn they put up invisible walls and block you from being able to lay down pleasing paths. Forced to shit up half the map with electric poles in the way of streets. Relays clipping through geometry constantly with their power transfer, etc.
why people use Buck A for heal
Constantly THIS close to a good path and having to detour 7 extra poles to go around a 6ft gap, etc.
it does feel really goofy running giant power poles in the middle of the street in active towns that presumably have electricity
so i should prioritze these weekly?
sure but i'm assuming the person you're respondnig too hasn't automated jincao/yazhen yet seeing as they're still figuring out the planting unit

Oh yeah that's true
Well i just telling it
also i can't be assed to use any of the non-automatable healing items like fluffed jincao
But they are everywhere




