aic-factory

[digital bear]

manually couriering it over

yes

[solid imp]

there's more than enough originium in wuling to fuel both xiranite batteries and components, the limiting factor is xiranite

[cosmic folio]

Or wuling is fully seperate?

[digital bear]

but hence why semi-automated

[torn sedge]

No, seperate depots

[cosmic folio]

Man I need to setup everything then

[solid imp]

i have like 120/m extra originium

[digital bear]

how?

i'm actively running out of originium even with every single vein tapped out

[solid imp]

there's iirc 360/m originium total in wuling and batteries + half components doesn't take that much

[torn sedge]

current max output for Wuling

[solid imp]

and i can't make more batteries or components than that because xiranite is limited

[digital bear]

i'm both making 290/s and using up 290

[torn sedge]

Max is 360 Originium and 90 Ferrium

[solid imp]

you might've missed the ore veins hiding behind the Dark Souls illusory wall

[digital bear]

Nope didnt'

[solid imp]

[digital bear]

Oh, wait i need more REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT

🥹

[solid imp]

oh yeah that

go buy up those recycling centers

[digital bear]

Augh i'm poor

i don't have enough like

[crimson inlet]

I have this setup in 3 PACs

[digital bear]

tock bills

[solid imp]

just gotta send more batteries to Supreme Chief

[digital bear]

you don't send asthma inhalers?

[solid imp]

at least when the stockade is only at level 1 just the batteries alone bankrupted her and i never got to send syringes

[digital bear]

wait

are those things syringes or asthma inhalers

[solid imp]

maybe now that i have the outpost at level 2 she'll actually be able to afford syringes after i throw all the batteries her way

[crimson inlet]

we bankrupted a raiding clan

[solid imp]

tangtang is rich in best girl energy but poor in cash

[digital bear]

I wonder how she gets her money from

[solid imp]

bullying mifu

[torn sedge]

... Ask Mi Fu

[digital bear]

😭

lesbianism got it

[solid imp]

yuri makes the world go round

[torn sedge]

Also

anyone got the name for Mi Fu's NA VA?

[digital bear]

no clue

[solid imp]

it's the same as her CN VA no?

[digital bear]

i'm off to get stabbed seeya chat

[old ice]

[digital bear]

mototrcycle when

[torn sedge]

ok

I gotta stop using Citron A for my healing

I gotta do some actual farming

[solid imp]

i don't i'm too lazy

well now that i'm in wuling i switched to yazhen syringes but still

i'm not manually farming shit

[torn sedge]

shrug

I'm doing it

I want bettter healing

[vapid granite]

I HAVE DONE IT

IT IS FINISHED

[solid imp]

the best healing is not getting hit

[solid imp]

ayo why your hub in autumn

[vapid granite]

its the Wuwa filter

[solid imp]

oh camera filter lmao

[vapid dock]

100% with almost everyone

[high dagger]

Question, is there a way to set the item control port to filter an item if said item has hit full capacity in the depot?

[crimson inlet]

1 more day for the Black and White filter

[solid imp]

no sadly
i really wish the item control port could read the depot because that would be infinitely more useful than "let X amount through then stop until reset"

[shrewd knoll]

The best thing you can do is reroute the materials to another process

[grizzled trout]

Anyone running into issues making SC valley batteries? I just unlocked them, made a facility for them but my usage is 18/min with a usage of 9/min... but I perpetually have zero in the depot? Is this a bug? Actually i'm realizing now that my current data shows 1:1 usage which is even more strange since nothing should be using them

[high dagger]

True. For now I'll just send those to a separate stash. I was using one stash for 2 different items but one of them clogged. At least with a separate stash it won't bother

Are there any situations in which the item control port is important?

[sudden egret]

The onhly way to use a battery is in a thermal bank, so you must have a bank set up to use those batteries somewhere

[sudden egret]

Also for this, no not really. I''ve never found one

[shrewd knoll]

only if you do stuff like lane swapping

[high dagger]

Hope they improve it in the future

[shrewd knoll]

3 lanes into protocol stash, and then control ports on output to assign a new lane

[shrewd knoll]

assuming none of those items ever clog

[crimson inlet]

.stonk

.stonks

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929296146497639/G6Ih57bacAITmvm.png?ex=691ff17b&is=691e9ffb&hm=91e95e84256e6e195565713e124e50b7d0551f1528c7ee8642b763175e1d9290&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=527&height=395

[sudden egret]

Problem with this though, is why have the proto storage at that point? Just have the lanes cross via bridges

[high dagger]

I see. Thanks!

[shrewd knoll]

depending on how it cross, a 3x3 space wont allow them all to change

[grizzled trout]

I have thermal banks set up but they're using originium ore. SC valley Batteries are just disappearing out of thin air

[shrewd knoll]

without the protocol stash

[sudden egret]

That's just poor settup then

[shrewd knoll]

which is why its super niche

but you can also use them for like limited output

you want 1000 of something and you dont want to be online to monitor it

[solid imp]

uh well stop using originium ore for power and use batteries, they're far more efficient

[grizzled trout]

I can't lmao they're literally not going into my depot

[solid imp]

where areyou sending the batteries if they're not going into the depot???

are you putting them in an unpowered protocol stash

[sudden egret]

ngl, I'm testing 3x3 crossing (technically 4x3 since there'd be a guarenteed belt leading into a proto storage) and I can get the lanes to cross no matter what

[solid imp]

or like accidentally set the protocol stash to not upload to the depot

[grizzled trout]

Sending them to the depot directly via belt but they're not appearing 🙁 and do have 1 setup via protocol stash that I used to test and see if that'd work and nadda

[solid imp]

is like, the packaging unit actually making batteries

[sudden egret]

Ok I found 1 ultra niche position where they can't cross easily

[grizzled trout]

yeah ignore shite setup, I was just desperate to keep testing battery making

[sudden egret]

Is that a splitter to a proto storage...and aic storage?

[grizzled trout]

Dw it was originally a power plant, used an online bp but removed thermal buildings to ensure no batteries were being circulated into them

[sudden egret]

ah

[grizzled trout]

Anyway the point about no thermal plants being powered, is why i'm so confused about this metric here too

[solid imp]

do you have batteries going to a thermal bank in a different PAC?

[shrewd knoll]

I just think you dont have enough ferrium

[sudden egret]

What's confusing about it? You're sending batteries into banks, enough banks to use more than you're making

The game can't handle decimels, so that "flucuation" is simply the game showing raw number made and used in that minute

[solid imp]

i mean you have about 1.66k power so presumably you're sending some batteries to thermal banks somewhere since that's way too much to get from just burning originium directly

[shrewd knoll]

you are generating WAY too much power for your power usage

you cant bank power so you are just wasting batteries

they burn regardless if you need the energy

[low obsidian]

Pipe

[solid imp]

pipe

[sudden egret]

damn wtf

pipe

[low obsidian]

Pipe

[grizzled trout]

But they're not routed to the banks... all of my banks are powered via originium ore or LC valley batteries. Unless the game automatically forces usage of the higher-tier power but like I said, I just unlocked the SC valley batteries or at least started to produce them

[sudden egret]

You might want to check all your banks, they are being powered by those batteries

[shrewd knoll]

you are burning at least some batteries somewhere because originium ore is a multiple of 50

[crimson inlet]

ss your inv and setup of LC and SC Batteries

[solid imp]

the only thing that can use batteries (aside from manually selling them or manually shoving them in turrets) are thermal banks

so are you suuuuuuuuuuuuure you didn't accidentally set an output to send SC batteries into thermal banks

[tough ledge]

Wait, how big is Core AIC area?

[solid imp]

the game won't do it automatically, if you don't have any batteres in your depot you have to be sending them out through a conveyor belt somewhere

[tough ledge]

and where is the middle of it

[grizzled trout]

Just double checked, no power banks/thermal banks in core PAC area but thermal banks in sub-pac is powered by originium

[torn sedge]

Hey, anyone got the flow rate of pipes and the pump rate of the water pumps?

[crimson inlet]

1 per 1s

[shrewd knoll]

you shouldnt have 1660 power if ONLY originium ore was being used

[torn sedge]

.... on which one?

[crimson inlet]

.... all liquids

[torn sedge]

So Flow rate of pipes is 1u/s

and the pump rate is 1u/s?

[crimson inlet]

pump rate is prolly 30? idk, its fast enough to fill 500 for only a few minutes

[solid imp]

i think pipes are actually 2/s

but water pumps are 1/s

[grizzled trout]

You're not wrong, it's definitely fluctating between 1.6k and 2.08k power but idk where the hell these batteries are going if I never set them manually

[solid imp]

go check your other PACs?

[odd cedar]

isnt pipe rate 2u/s?

[shrewd knoll]

one pump fully supplies what 1 pipe can handle

[odd cedar]

pump = 2 lines, pipe = 4 lines, forge = 1 line ?

[torn sedge]

I'm setting up pipes so I want to know if I'll have to service each independent line w/ 2 Pumps or 1 Pump

so I want to know

[shrewd knoll]

so never merge your pipes at the pumps

[solid imp]

i think it varies with distance because i've had pipes that could handle two pumps of input fine but others that were really long that couldn't

it's weird

[torn sedge]

what the output of liquid is per pump and what the flow rate of the pipes are

[grizzled trout]

I already posted the 2 sub pac's which aren't being fed the batteries, main pac has no thermal banks

[odd cedar]

i'm not at my computer someone can screenshot the formula inside the pump? and screenshot a selected pipe?

[crimson inlet]

I mean, 1 pump can release 3u/s with the dump

[shrewd knoll]

are you sure you dont have some thermal banks at the edge of some depots

thats not the only place where its possible to unload them

[solid imp]

there HAS to be thermal banks SOMEWHERE being fed with batteries
4 thermal banks being filled with originium ore is literally only +200 more power, you should be at 400 total power then, not 1.66k

so you're just

missing your thermal banks somewhere

or your game is horrendously broken somehow but user error is more likely

[crimson inlet]

Check your PAC

[low obsidian]

PIPE

Yeah it increased

[solid imp]

no
fluid tank

[crimson inlet]

you probably have a thermal bank placed in those

Sub-PACs

[proven holly]

Pump drains 1/s, pipe can send max 2/s, dispenser can dump max 3/s

[high mural]

[grizzled trout]

nah no thermal banks at the edges or elsewhere, I'm lazy to do anything other than unload from depot or splat facilities in the middle of the PAC

[sudden egret]

Well batteries don't get used out of nowhere

[grizzled trout]

didn't have this issue with LC batteries so i'm chalking it up to some funky stuff

[crimson inlet]

can you screenshot your setup in top view mode?

[torn sedge]

So to be clear, to saturate a pipe, you need to converge 2 Pump outputs?

[solid imp]

seems so yeah

[proven holly]

Yes

[solid imp]

it is a bit weird that pipes max at 2/s but the dumping unit w/e it's called can theoretically output 3/s

[sudden egret]

Honestly, I just use pumps pipes in a 1:2 ratio

1 pump can supply 2 buildings

[solid imp]

only reachable if you manually fill it with bottles

[grizzled trout]

Those are the only 2 extra viewpoints since the other picture captures the rest of the PAC

[shrewd knoll]

if you are already on site with the bottles u can just dump it straight out

no need for dispenser

[torn sedge]

Much appriciated

[solid imp]

brb filling up all the small ponds with liquid xiranite

[torn sedge]

Sorry, I'm setting up one of those manual farm things with Sprinklers

[crimson inlet]

how about your whole battery setup?

[sudden egret]

Allso note, you gotta seed that buckflower farm with more buckflower

But batteries don't just get used up out of nowhere, that's a fact. Maybe relog and see if it persists

[torn sedge]

Hmn

I wonder if I should set up a water tank reserve

[torn sedge]

what do you guys think?

current set up is 20 plots (max), 10 Sprinklers

[crimson inlet]

sidenote: improve your farms by having the conveyors side by side like this in the middle

[torn sedge]

2 pumps

[ancient zinc]

Place those tank storage outside AIC

[sudden egret]

2 pumps is more than enough to handle more sprinkllers. Just set up some storage tanks @torn sedge

[grizzled trout]

damn buckflower. Yeah i'll just login and it don't work, make something else since I only wanted to sell them to the power plateau anyways

[torn sedge]

I mean, I wouldn't be able to pipe all that stuff from the AIC area to the farm plot

so of course it'll be on the farm site

[sudden egret]

Tanks can be set up on the farm site with tons of room to spare

[torn sedge]

Yeah, I figured tbh

so a Tank should add redundancy

ok

cool

[void dune]

Do you guys know how to build an auto heal factory I've been trying to make one by the pass 2 hours

[grizzled trout]

tks I shall optimize once I progress further into the story need newer mats

[analog elbow]

O' Wise one @sudden egret. What's the maximum yield you can get producing Wuling Battery?

[torn sedge]

I was contemplating convergance on 2 pumps, and it is either a direct line to the sprinklers or have a tank reserve

I'll go with a tank reserve

[crimson inlet]

wait, check your protocol stash first if its moving items or in storage mode

[ancient zinc]

Ask me for troll purposes

[analog elbow]

That's why i didn't

[crimson inlet]

then check every nook and cranny for thermal banks

[sudden egret]

12/m

[grizzled trout]

Moving items belt free t/c, that I can confirm

[analog elbow]

Thanks

[grizzled trout]

i'll watch it in despair as the prepping transfer pops up with 1 battery and vanishes into the abyss

[sudden egret]

I mean, you don't need the proto storage anyway

you have so much empty space leading directly into the AIC

just do that

proto-storages are best when you can't reach the AIC reasonably, or some mega-niche belt swapping

[analog elbow]

Just 3 more hours before my 12Hours shift ended. so i can progress through Wuling

[low obsidian]

[ancient zinc]

💢💢💢

cheaky lady needs correction

[grizzled trout]

Yeah it was originally a test to begin with to see if I could resolve this via the proto storage since I never used proto storage anyways

[low obsidian]

I finally done my longest pipe project

[polar cairn]

is there a setup that I can use to mass produce amethyst bottle efficiently?

[low obsidian]

550 meter length of pipe

[analog elbow]

[analog elbow]

Did you drink all of it?

[sudden egret]

Probably not, It's just 2 refine into mould

It's hard to make a design that's "efficient" for that

[analog elbow]

my beloved endmin

[sudden egret]

not becuase it's hard, but because it's practically done in a basic settup

[ancient zinc]

Man,,I can feel the mob nerf after the mini update

[low obsidian]

Giant Healing pool

[crimson inlet]

can I see your thermal banks setup then?

[analog elbow]

Yesterday Endmin went to the Male toilet. and then the Female the next day i wonder how

[ancient zinc]

Severe energy mobs melts like butter vs turrets quick than before

[analog elbow]

500 Surge Towers

[ancient zinc]

[analog elbow]

[grizzled trout]

Just this

[torn sedge]

a Sprinkler system should be able to handle 2 plots, right?

[ancient zinc]

Yep

[torn sedge]

cool

[analog elbow]

700 to 2K ratio is wild tho

[grizzled trout]

Others pointed out about the power limit but I don't have anywhere else being powered by generators unless somehow outside the PACs

yeah i tend to just try out a bp like the power generator one then get distracted, leaving them there

[low obsidian]

It's kinda fun that you only need 15 water tank to reach 550 meter pipe length

[stoic coyote]

Huh..

[torn sedge]

this should work

[stoic coyote]

Why would you need the extreme length

[low obsidian]

Pipe

[stoic coyote]

Bro leading xiranite into daily water 🥀

[low obsidian]

Oh anyway i was trying to fill in the 40K

This pool

[torn sedge]

Oh

[stoic coyote]

Crazy

[torn sedge]

ok

good luck <3

[stoic coyote]

Bro pull it out then fill it up

[low obsidian]

It's working already

[crimson inlet]

welp, I'm stomp, just report the issue to #1461653979862925498

[low obsidian]

Just gonna wait until it full

[crimson inlet]

provide every detail

[torn sedge]

Anyone got a Map scheme for Relay + Ziplines in Wuling?

[low obsidian]

This is peak pipe

[crimson inlet]

because we currently don't have that issue except you

[low obsidian]

Putting the fluid tank on stair is funny

[stoic coyote]

Lemme try to fill that 40k pool with something else

👍

[low obsidian]

I fill with yazheng or jincao for HEAL

[low obsidian]

Also you must pull through the city

[grizzled trout]

Yeah i'll play around some more and send if nothing seems to resolve

[stoic coyote]

It's alright, I will plan myself

[low obsidian]

If you try to get shortcut you will see a cliff

Like i did

[stoic coyote]

Probs not through city

[low obsidian]

I was trying to shorten the path

[stoic coyote]

[runic epoch]

Perhaps one of your battery lines has a thermal bank as part of the process ?

[low obsidian]

And see a CLIFF

Literally reversed the progress

[torn sedge]

Oh that reminds me

[low obsidian]

Luckily you can cut a pipe before doing stash all

[torn sedge]

I need steel bottles

[low obsidian]

Especially this side

[torn sedge]

fuck

[low obsidian]

Don't TURN LEFT @stoic coyote

Don't do the cliff mistake

Or is it right

[grizzled trout]

nah manually checked the energy source by clicking on them and it's just originium

[low obsidian]

Whatever it is just follow the stairs to the city

[runic epoch]

No I mean
As part of the battery blueprint
Is there one line chaining into a thermal?

[stoic coyote]

I will update when I got my plan ✨

[stoic coyote]

Yeah, but chaining too much might have some under power bank

[digital notch]

does each sky forge need 2 stab carbon per second for stable production?

[torn sedge]

I guess noone has a map scheme for ziplines and relays in Wuling huh?

[stoic coyote]

Yes

[torn sedge]

I would have thought optimizers would be all over that

[stoic coyote]

Recipe 2 : 1

[grizzled trout]

Originally yeah, it fed 1 into a thermal bank before the depot. But I deleted the thermal banks earlier on when I realized I had a problem

[runic epoch]

Then under all purposes this falls under a bug

Originium x4 does not give you 1.6k energy

[torn sedge]

What I got from a BP

for One Forge

[vital kraken]

uhhh can someone help me 😭

[torn sedge]

and the Forge directly outputs into either a component or Battery

This is only after I stockpiled a nice sum into the depot for raw Xiranite

[grizzled trout]

Yeah it's what i'm hoping it to be. I just deleted the originium banks and still have 1.46k - 1.88k power... it fluctuates in real time between those values in a PAC.

[dawn glen]

is 560/min max originium in v4?

[runic epoch]

Yep

[dawn glen]

im cooked

im using 600

[karmic root]

Hi, I just started the game, is there a step by step guide for the base? (Early, mid, end game) to be more efficient

[dawn glen]

time to stop making cryston components

[torn sedge]

Various Content Creators in Ytube already has videos and guides for that. Look it up

[rigid oar]

theres various guides on youtube but you can also search in #1465229737642164386 or #1461542035617091681

[karmic root]

Thank you🙏🏻

[torn sedge]

Considering things, it might be best to listen to a guy/gal telling you directly what to do

[rigid oar]

you should also pay attention to the guides ingame so you know how to manage the factories

[torn sedge]

Considering it invovles reading

not a lot of people do it

[karmic root]

Will do, Much appreciated

[torn sedge]

<- is from GFL

I think there is a picture that sums it up

give me a second

[runic epoch]

Project moon players

[torn sedge]

the official discords have a bot command in regards to people and reading

which says a lot about people and reading

but that's why those who can read are more than capable enough on helping

o3o7

[old ice]

[torn sedge]

Oh that reminds me

I need to stockpile steel bottles

I guess I'll cut into my HC battery line

[old ice]

satisfyingly symmetric

[grizzled trout]

wtf I deleted all of my SC valley producing facilities and I still am somehow getting a yield of 6/min and usage of 6/min

[runic epoch]

Wait for a while till it eventually powers off

[dawn glen]

how many themo banks are you guys running in valley 4 with HC to power your factories and ziplines?

[runic epoch]

4~5

[grizzled trout]

It's been 5 min... unless it takes more

[dawn glen]

😭

so 3 HC factories 4 themos

[runic epoch]

Log off
If persists
Bug report

[short silo]

Anyone know a good wuling starting base??
( i got alot of HC batteries I can bring over to power it.)

[runic epoch]

1 factory powers 4 thermals
The rest is to sell

[dawn glen]

my factories have 1 bank 1 protocol space each

so i need to place a 4th somewhere

[karmic root]

🤣🤣🤣

[torn sedge]

Sorry, I'm not familiar if Project Moon Players are readers or non-readers

[runic epoch]

90% are non readers

[torn sedge]

The Picture applies then lol

we need an Endmin edit of that picture tbh

considering the amount of non-readers we have

Ok

[rough stream]

can you hit max wuling profit with 1.5 xiranite on batteries? or do you also need yazhen syringe. im currently using 1.75 on batteries and sending the rest to make components, not making any syringe.

[torn sedge]

I'll go look at youtube for a Wuling Zipline plan or something

there should be some dedicated min-maxer who has done it

surely

[runic epoch]

Probably on bilibili

[runic epoch]

Oh renegade has a video on it

[marble yarrow]

yeah you can. just make sure you only consume 1 battery as power

oh shit ur not making syringe

[rough stream]

1.75 batteries already maxes out the stock bills

[crisp pier]

I officially admit I suck at making factories properly. Is there a video or a blueprint that will help?

[runic epoch]

#1461542035617091681

[crisp pier]

....thank you. Now I need to find my glasses for missing that

[marble yarrow]

im producing 7.5 batteries and 5.75 syringe and thats the exact bill match for mine

[grizzled trout]

whelp battery makin' issues persist even after shut down -> restart. Gonna submit a ticket. Ty everyone who tried to help!

[rigid oar]

theres one called "Flexible Wuling Max Profit Base" in #1465229737642164386 , it might work for you but you need 1 base expansion and depot

[rough stream]

what issue?

[rigid oar]

it shows the whole process

[marble yarrow]

if you want wuling batts then this is the number

[grizzled trout]

SC batteries not going into depot after being made and none being used for thermal generators. Batteries are still being produced as per the AIC report even though I have zero facilities making them in my PACs

[torn sedge]

Ok

I need a sanity check

for those who have fully saturated their V4 AIC and producing 24/18/18, how many Ferrium Ores are in your depot?

[rough stream]

are you sure you don't just have an extra facility somewhere you forgot about, I personally forgot Originum Lodespring existed

[tight ridge]

help

[torn sedge]

There are 1 PAC and 3 Outposts in V4

[vital kraken]

it happens to you too...

[torn sedge]

ugh

my ferrium ore depot count is hovering near zero

[grizzled trout]

triple sure. No biggie i'll just skip over to the next battery tier when I unlock it lol

[torn sedge]

and i'm just wondering if there is something wrong lol

Theoretical is at 1080/1080

so is it a decimal problem?

[rough stream]

are you perhaps shipping it over to Wuling

[torn sedge]

I have level 12 so I have meta storage thing

Oh

right

........

FUck

it does cost that doesn't it

God damn it

wait

I thought meta storage doesn't pull from depot anymore?

[marble yarrow]

metastorage doesnt reduce your depot

[torn sedge]

yeah

so it can't be that

.... huh???

[rough stream]

wait so can you just ship like 1.5k ferrium bottles to wuling for free?

[quartz cloak]

Quick question, is there a way to max out the output supply unit at 3/sec, cause pipes are maxed at 2/sec so even with 3 pumps I cannot connect more pipes to the supply unit

[torn sedge]

? you're talking about liquids right?

if so, no

[quartz cloak]

Each item has different unit cost, but yeah, it is free

[torn sedge]

you're better off splitting the output from the pumps to two seperate outlflow

[sharp girder]

1 every 2 minutes...
I must be doing something wrong

[marble yarrow]

just have more pipes. they dont cost anything

[quartz cloak]

Shame, I hate to not get all I can out of each building

[safe vale]

I need your blueprint

[torn sedge]

Yup. you didn't read the maths and required inputs to produce things at saturation

[safe vale]

I also need the wuling ones....

[marble yarrow]

do the correct ratios. your buck A needs double that input. your sandleaf generator needs to improve

[safe vale]

I'm suck at factory maxxing

[spring vessel]

When do you unlock wuling batteries to replace HC batteries in your power gen?

[torn sedge]

Here is what is needed to saturate a Filling Station for A grade items

[marble yarrow]

your plant factory could be like this

[rough stream]

the moment you have forge of the sky you can make it

[torn sedge]

I mean

if someone just needs the item

[marble yarrow]

dont you want to make your origocrust go 20/min instead of 30? unless your slowly depleting ur originium

[torn sedge]

a non-saturated production line is good enough

[torn sedge]

what do you mean? The Originium line in that outpost is just a remnant of me making sure I am topped off in Origocrust for making basic facilities

[autumn canopy]

how do i minmax my valley 4 batteries? it fluctuates from using 10/min to 5/min

[torn sedge]

its not moving anymore cuz I'm topped up and I hadn't gone and cleaned it up

[tight ridge]

MK1 and Mk2 rigs have the same resource output, right?

[rough stream]

show us how you set up your thermal banks

[runic epoch]

Yep

[marble yarrow]

are u using only 4 banks

[rough stream]

yes but using a mk2 on an originum vein doesn't yield extra while consuming more power

[torn sedge]

meh

I prefer just streamlining my logistics and not having any more Mk1 Mining Rigs

but that's a personal choice

[marble yarrow]

im not wasting 5 energy on that

[tight ridge]

how many batteries per depot?

[torn sedge]

?

what?

[autumn canopy]

5 banks ,2 other subpac has 2 banks, 1 subpac has 1 bank

[tight ridge]

banks, how many banks per depot to generate power?

[marble yarrow]

are you using too much ziplines and turrets? i keep my power use below 4600

[torn sedge]

What depot? Power is universal per Region?

[autumn canopy]

just ziplines for delivery in each area in valley 4

[torn sedge]

Bank output also depends on the power source used

with Originium having the least yield of power and shortest consumption time

[marble yarrow]

i have like 25 ziplines and still using only 4 battery banks

[torn sedge]

all the way to HC Batteries (for V4) with the highest yield of power + longst consumption time

[marble yarrow]

use only 3

per unloader

[torn sedge]

So it is based on originium?

yeah, 3 should saturate

4 if you want a constant stream

[rough stream]

each packager makes a unit / 10 seconds, while the thermal banks consume one every 40s. so each packager supplies 4 thermal banks. by having a single packager split 1/2 to a thermal bank you are doing nothing except clogging the thermal bank

[tight ridge]

4 does constant interruptions

[torn sedge]

my universal design. Ignore the SC Bat designation; it can be whatever could use power

[proven holly]

Max profit? No, need 12/m battery

[torn sedge]

and considering the size constraints in my V4 area, having a cube design like this saves me space

[earnest steeple]

Clogging thermal bank is fine, since once its full it'll send the rest to storage.

[tired aspen]

It is me or I feel like the 15 depot bus section is a bit overkill for the current wuling factory size?

[torn sedge]

It is.

we have not fully unlocked Wuling yet

we're waiting on content updates

which would hopefully lets us raise our development level + unlock other areas for more ore nodes

[nova osprey]

and more sky forges

[torn sedge]

when it does, I'll most likely find myself ditching my space inefficient Sandleaf producers and optimizing my space for it

[tight ridge]

V4 has too few originium veins wtf

[torn sedge]

and most likely I'll need to stockpile more raw Xiranite for facility production

[nova osprey]

how much are you getting atm

[torn sedge]

..... huh?

[tight ridge]

560

[nova osprey]

i mean when the time comes we'll be running it at even capacity again

[tired aspen]

No it seem like the counter for those for core and pac-AIC are separate. 15 is still overkill regardless

[marble yarrow]

at least they can make use as dividers

[torn sedge]

They must be producing something else than HC Bats and A/C grade healing items

[nova osprey]

what are you making

[earnest steeple]

You can still cap with 9/min (-1.5/min usage) battery and 5.75/min potion.

[tight ridge]

A lot of stuff

[torn sedge]

Well

[nova osprey]

clearly lol

[torn sedge]

its their factory I guess

[rough stream]

do i need to transfer anything

[torn sedge]

We just know they're not producing the 24/18/18

[nova osprey]

meta transfer ferrium or ferrium bottles

[earnest steeple]

Yeah. Ferrium is needed for 5.75 syringe.

[torn sedge]

Ok

[safe vale]

I mean I had like 6 of em

[torn sedge]

I need to get goign with Wuling and Ziplines

good luck people

6 is not enough....

but I digress

good luck people

the Factory Must Grow

[nova osprey]

it's going to take so long to go through all the content in terms of setting up ziplines and opening all chests man

[safe vale]

per outpost?

the main pac has 8 iirc

or also 6

[torn sedge]

I just need to get the ziplines done for all the rare resource nodes and the owls

[safe vale]

4buck 4 sandleaf

[nova osprey]

sounds like a pain

i have origin lodespring done, others not so much

[earnest steeple]

You don't need owls especially with future changes, except if you're doing deliveries.

[torn sedge]

I'm a busy girl. I need to optimize my time and I got some free time now

[nova osprey]

wuling as well though

[torn sedge]

later on, I won't

[nova osprey]

understandable

[marble yarrow]

they be rotting. so i stopped

[torn sedge]

so having ziplines would cut my daily spend time in Endfield by a ton

instead of running around

[spare cloak]

what is happening?

[safe vale]

they be used in the future

trust

[torn sedge]

you can only place 2 forges max. make sure you take out any currently placed down forges

[nova osprey]

depot bus or forge of the sky

[safe vale]

Forge of the sky

[torn sedge]

Ok I gotta really go

bye~

[spare cloak]

But I have none placed inside that area, why I still can't put It?

[marble yarrow]

yeah then i will plant zipline by then. im not wasting 5 energy for that now

[torn sedge]

Limit is per region

check your PAC/Outpost

[safe vale]

Check you aic skill tree level

[torn sedge]

for any placed down forge

[safe vale]

It's should unlock 2/2 if you maxxed it

[safe vale]

Lol

[digital notch]

this compact build looks satisfactory

[spare cloak]

I can't find any forge inside my base

[torn sedge]

checks out RENEGADE's zipline video

its f-cking 1+ hour long

[nova osprey]

it's not a factory if it's not satisfactory

[torn sedge]

"F-ck"

[digital notch]

it's satisfactory in the the compact department tho

[nova osprey]

it is satisfactory

[safe vale]

It's maxxed ok but check the other outpost, who knows if you alr placed 2 there

[spare cloak]

I did, so I can't put anymore in the entire Wuling?

[nova osprey]

have you researched the second sky forge @spare cloak

[safe vale]

Yes.

it's shit

[nova osprey]

pick up any that you have placed like others have told you

[safe vale]

2 / 2 for the entire wuling

[spare cloak]

Bruh, how am I farming Xiranite?

[nova osprey]

i mean we're just starting out lol

[safe vale]

using the 2 forges of the sky

[nova osprey]

we should be getting more later

[safe vale]

true ig

but like

they added new QoL and stuff I supposed it's gonna be added for next updates

[tight ridge]

HOW THE HELL AM I BLEEDING ORIGINIUM STILL

[nova osprey]

in terms of regional development we're not even 1/5th of the way there

[safe vale]

if ppl are rambling abt lack of forges of the sky

[past hatch]

I'm sure they will add more. wuling still only half open after all

[marble yarrow]

20k HC in wuling and 22k HC in valley 4

[nova osprey]

that's intentional, we still have like 4 more zones to go for wuling

and 2 more outposts

[safe vale]

True

btw

[spare cloak]

I Alredly using them on a full compact battery farm, the problem is that the farm blueprint has no energy sustain

[safe vale]

make sc battery farm?

[spare cloak]

Isn't Sc battery for Valley IV?

[safe vale]

I can fit one in my build

[safe vale]

you can make it for substitutes

[torpid otter]

I finished Valley IV but i need to level the outpost what should I focus on crafting?

[safe vale]

it's not like they do much but

It helps

Just need ferrium parts and origocrust powder iirc

[torpid otter]

Anything else I should make to prepare for Wuling?

[safe vale]

buck A or HC battery

[safe vale]

blueprint or just bring some electric drill also bring planters and seeders

Other than that idk

[torpid otter]

Should I make purp gear

[safe vale]

bring seeds like sandleaf and stuff

[safe vale]

you could

they give you ferrium parts now

in your mail box

[torpid otter]

Should I use the normal blueprint channel or the event one

[nova osprey]

purple needs cryston, but they still give it

[nova osprey]

event one?

[safe vale]

I mean they give it

[nova osprey]

yes

[safe vale]

they're generous enough to give it so

idk

[nova osprey]

oh the blueprint event, choose whichever you want to

[torpid otter]

Didn't even realize it was the component for purp lol

[safe vale]

Tbf they nerfed the enemy hard enough that they become squishy

[nova osprey]

they're trying to make the game easier for people who don't want anything to do with AIC lol

[safe vale]

u don't need to make gear

[safe vale]

yes

[jagged scroll]

Finally producing xiranite. I did not expect it to be just plants and water.

[safe vale]

it's suck that I suffer from it

[nova osprey]

how so?

[nova osprey]

yeah

[safe vale]

cus the 1st week I didn't know u need to make parts for armor lol

[nova osprey]

ahh

[safe vale]

like they progress more and more

changing the build and stuff

now I'm adapting

[nova osprey]

it do be like that

[safe vale]

Or the simulation being boring af

[crimson inlet]

I'm producing more by the day

[safe vale]

to much ui intervention

this game is the definition of TMI

lol

[still niche]

them handing out free components is so funny, I built a cryston comp factory like yesterday

[safe vale]

lol

[inland perch]

I feel like they deliberately made less mineral beds in wuling to slow us down exploration cuz we're clearing the map too fast lol

[sudden hollow]

Definitely

[still niche]

the factory must GROW

[elder flame]

what do your sub PAC's look like

[sudden hollow]

I don't have much minerals left before deficit so I only built 2 sub PAC

I have 1 free sub PAC bruh

[sudden hollow]

Getting ss rn

[inland perch]

For me i used most my aic mass produce buckcapsule a
Sub pac make purple battery amd blue battery

[sudden hollow]

I have 3 buck capsule A and 3 purple bactery

[marble yarrow]

same. my power plateau is empty

[still niche]

I ran into the funny issue of adding two HC battery production lines and running out of Originium ore (note to self: always monitor material usage)

[marble yarrow]

i use it for planning out blueprints

[sudden hollow]

Oh that sucks fr

[marble yarrow]

i'll be fixing my main AIC so it fits 3 Buck A and 2 HC

now it fits 2+2

[elder flame]

like there's only so many material ports you can open, so im just wondering what you even put there

[inland perch]

Yea i had to dig out every ferrium deposit to fund my operations lol
Even had one locked under wulf's questline so halfway i unlock it

[still niche]

yeahhh, understandable

[willow beacon]

do you have a blueprint for this

[sudden hollow]

I will convert my last sub PAC to other items (purple buck, purple batteries, bombs)

[willow beacon]

mainly just the 1/2 xiranite component and 1/2 battery part

logistics of splitting that seems weird

[earnest steeple]

No, I don't. You just supply half the stuff to the packaging machine. So its not working at full capacity. And with the extra stuff you can make components at 1.5/min. (But you won't have enough artificing items to use them all anyways).

[marble yarrow]

just half the xiranite. put 2 grinders for dense originium. split 1 grinder output for half to component and half to battery

[sudden hollow]

both my sub factories producing 1 buck capsule A and 2 bombs

[solid python]

I'm sitting on 30k components even after gearing up a bit.

[jagged scroll]

How do you hide the hud when you zoom out on your top down view on the base? Or was that even possible?

[crude nebula]

I want to check a theory, does belt length for input affecting production speed for a machine?

[brave vapor]

No

[solid python]

Only until the product catches up

[brave vapor]

it will only affect the production speed if your factory keeps getting hiccups

[brave vapor]

or this

[elder flame]

is it bombs over buck c

[elder flame]

wait then what is the main doing

[jagged scroll]

Poor mans quick and early xiranite component.

[solid python]

Wait until you discover Yazhen

[brave vapor]

p sure everyone gets the same access to producing xiranite when your done with the story quest

[safe vale]

Loooooong loooooong belt

[marble yarrow]

OMG sandleaf for carbon 💀

[safe vale]

https://tenor.com/view/long-man-sakeru-gummy-shocked-gif-17662687

[grizzled storm]

we factoring it?

[brave vapor]

the recipe only onlocks until you find it via the factory, so slightly understandable

[marble yarrow]

wait i think they use wuling plants. its just not visible

[sudden hollow]

In total across Valley IV im making
4 bombs module -> 24
3 buck A module -> 18
3 HC factory module -> 18
if super optimize each modules output is 6

but im planning to turn off my carbon factory and add 2 more bomb module

[jagged scroll]

I copied it from the 60/m xiranite blueprint. #1465737008017313862

[sudden hollow]

i havent touch wuling yet oh no

[safe vale]

it's okay but jincao better

[grizzled storm]

it is better

better ratio

[safe vale]

2:1 lol

[grizzled storm]

instead of 1:1

[brave vapor]

both are the exact same in factory production

for the 2 wuling plant

[marble yarrow]

based. preferring bombs over meds C

[jagged scroll]

Or can it go higher?

[elder flame]

oh they got it smol

[marble yarrow]

then deliver bombs on depot deliveries

[grizzled storm]

not really

[brave vapor]

it's the highest possible

[rough breach]

dou why we need more bomb than 10k

[brave vapor]

your factory line just sucks, along with copying someone else's homework

[fierce topaz]

wrong chat 💀

[grizzled storm]

lol

[rough breach]

i accidentally upgrade one of the outpost which took 640k on area expansion...

no more money ....

[brave vapor]

your gonna do it anyway

[shut bone]

it must be a bug or st, my stock redistributor connection and coverage expansion is lower than everyone i know which prevent me from getting my Valley IV to 12

[rough breach]

welp time to wait for 3 days to short someone 400% trade

[brave vapor]

might as well get it over with now

[jagged scroll]

I literally haven't made any money yet to E X P A N D

[shut bone]

don't ask me to upgrade anything i already did all the possible way

[brave vapor]

most people are at 12

[rough breach]

you forget to short other's stocks

[brave vapor]

so your missing something

[rough breach]

mine is at 10 lmao

[shut bone]

the heck did i missing?

[uncut rock]

Does anyone have a decent thermal battery blueprint so I can max power an outpost?

[brave vapor]

it would be funny if your missing 1 whole sub pac

[jagged scroll]

Haven't found that yet on the map.

[grizzled storm]

you're missing stock redistributor connection/expansions

[shut bone]

is there 4 sub pac or st?

[grizzled storm]

like 5k worth of xp

[rough breach]

i mean elastic trading

[shut bone]

or 2 stock redistributor connection?

[frozen field]

Okay, got a question. After letting my Valley 4 AIC transfer Ferium to Wuling, I am now left with 21 ferium in valley 4 stocks. My ferium usage in valley 4 is maxed out and my wuling usage is 115/min. is it still fine to have valley transfer their resources or nah?

[shut bone]

or 6 depot node?

[brave vapor]

no, 3 sub pac, but i saw some absolute man gotten to wuling without unlocking the 3rd one

[jagged scroll]

I did mean that. Or I think I didn't have any money to even unlock it yet on wulin? Doesn't it cost like 5k?

[grizzled storm]

oopsies

[frozen field]

I heard that it should be fine, but want to re confirm

[rough breach]

i mean you didnt upgrade your bunny centre

[tight ridge]

having to go through multiple grinding units sounds stupid

[shut bone]

i mean i have those thing

[brave vapor]

metastorage transfer dupes the ores, else dont cut into your profit of valley

[shut bone]

including the mining spot also

[frozen field]

I see

[jagged scroll]

I'm broke for now.

[frozen field]

So if you have it in stock, then it takes from there. If not, it dupes?

[rough breach]

XD

[rough breach]

how many days are you in

[stoic coyote]

@low obsidian yes

[rough breach]

cincau solution

[brave vapor]

yeah, if you havent maxed out using 1080 ferrium go ahead, but once you do, dont. wuling is self sustainable

[stoic coyote]

filling that hole up

[frozen field]

Thats the thing. Valley 4 is already 1080

[quasi phoenix]

how to get to here. Help channel not helping.

[brave vapor]

idk really, i havent seen that area for making a factory

[frozen field]

Go to the floating rocks area

[jagged scroll]

First day for wulin. So about 5th day of seriously playing. But I started day1 but mostly only did dailies because my buddies distracted me with modded minecraft extremely. First map did all ziplines, one outpost is still lvl3 and making 18/m batteries and Buck A. And region lvl12.

[stoic coyote]

it must be some quest

we're not getting in there yet

the pile locked the other side

[frozen field]

Yeah. You can get rid of the blight though with a good bomb throw

[stoic coyote]

just few one outside

[rough breach]

welp more then me

and fk your luck on lava cake Xd

[raven willow]

Hello, i would like to ask what materials should i produce in each AIC area for valley IV, not asking for blueprint

[quasi phoenix]

throw as much as I can but the core seem to be on the outher side

[rough breach]

i am on p2 adrelia streak

[stoic coyote]

it is otherside

[brave vapor]

it all boils down to 18 buck a, 18 hc bat, some buck c line i think to use the amethyst

[rough breach]

all my 6 stars goes into adrelia

[atomic sedge]

How am i meant to increase the efficiency of ore miners?

[frozen field]

Yeah. You need to toss it inbetween the blight wall goops

[brave vapor]

how you set it up on where is your call

[rough breach]

ok time to make hc battery then

[frozen field]

So stop transferring then?

[jagged scroll]

What luck I did 120 pulls to get her xD. Hard pity. And I still got enough for enough for another 20 pulls. But I did get Gilberta on 2nd ever pull. I threw 30 bucks at the game.

[rough breach]

i didnt even start my steel production

[brave vapor]

basically yes

[low obsidian]

GOOD JOB 👍

[frozen field]

Ok

[raven willow]

Can you break it down? Like what should i produce in the core aic, in valley pass, etc.

[frozen field]

My wuling uses 115/min. is that fine?

[rough breach]

gib me 30 bucks too i need 70 pulls for lava cake Xd

[brave vapor]

if you intend to actually play the factory like how they wants it, theres no right answer

how it looks and how it fits is how you design it

[raven willow]

But what do general most people do tho?

[rough breach]

i still havenot connect all the mines is lodespring and power plan

[brave vapor]

get the output i said

[frozen field]

Healing and batteries. But for mid game, also bombs

[stoic coyote]

"You have my authority"
Endmin: I'll take that personally

[jagged scroll]

How many pulls did I even get via 31bucks.. That 1buck thing, 5buck monthly, 10buck pass, and that 10er pull for 15bucks. Probably at most 20+pulls.

[raven willow]

Got it, 18/min right?

[trail vine]

it doesn't matter that much, but making all the batteries in one zone lets you use a more compact amount of planters
and the only zone big enough to make all those batteries in is the AIC

[jagged scroll]

I did all the extra stuff like the website events and such, if that makes a big difference.

[frozen field]

Wuling uses 115/min, is that fine?

[low obsidian]

PIPE

[low obsidian]

Just 115?

Make it 500/min :3

[frozen field]

Should I cut back on my healing item production?

[tough ledge]

How many unit can you water with one pump, 4?

assuming a 2 second cycle of Xyranite/Plant

[quasi phoenix]

are you sure about this ? I mean its on the other side of the wall.

[frozen field]

Thats how I've seen people do it. There's a few videos of people doing it on youtube too

[willow beacon]

can i outpostmaxx any more than this

i feel like this is a rather even spread

[brave vapor]

actually outpostmaxxing is not making any xiranite components

[willow beacon]

what's the point of outpostmaxxing with nothing to artifice

mfs don't have that much money anyway

[civic bone]

theres a blueprint sharing for ziplines now right?

[brave vapor]

the flex statue on stock rediatribute

alongbwith other items there, they can cost a pretty penny

[willow beacon]

again, mfs don't even have that much money

no point in stockpiling batts

it's the same as buck C in v4

[thick charm]

pwm and oscillator schematic generator for power efficiency

includes graph and predicted fuel saved per day

adjustable with your current power usage

https://dige.aunly.cn/h?lang=en

[tough ledge]

can someone confirm this?

[brave vapor]

ah well if you wrung them dry, aome comp is fine too

[willow beacon]

they never buy any of it anyway

[willow beacon]

i'm not sure what you're asking here

if you're talking about the difference in theoretical vs actual yield, that's just because your depot is full

use more

can't yield more than you can store

[spring vessel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/CyberKongz-loading-thought-low-iq-wrmVCNbpOyqgJ9zQTn

my honest reaction

[thick charm]

lol

its pretty simple

[spring vessel]

one day someone will replace the ape with endmin

and i will have my new spammable sticker

[inland knoll]

is this supposed to be like using sequential belt splitters to time your battery usage so that you can use reserves and then recharge them

[thick charm]

ye and thats the pwm

[weak mural]

no more cryston factory for newbies

[inland knoll]

whats pwm stand for?

[thick charm]

pulse width modulation

[lofty hedge]

ok so like 200 xiranite relays and pylons should be enough right

[thick charm]

commonly used in electronics

[lofty hedge]

for mapping around the world and turrets

[thick charm]

for example, this is one of the earliest 12 digit binary pwm
#aic-factory message

[torpid sandal]

I finally did it 😭. Liquid xiranite

[inland knoll]

thats pretty cool i bet it makes a big difference for wuling batteries since theyre so big

does it do the insufficient power output voiceline every time it swaps off

thatd get on my nerves ngl

[thick charm]

depending on your setup and if its extremely tight on clock, you can save around 1k batts daily

[thick charm]

yep

[potent gull]

Man... I wish I could use my factory more efficiently...

[inland knoll]

😭

[potent gull]

Maybe I should tear down the whole thing and make it fill up EVERY SPACE OF EVERY SUB-AIC

[frail trail]

anyone know why I can't place a machine in the bottom left area of powerr plateau ?

[thick charm]

the "insufficient power" is required since, it is oscillating between on and off state

[frail trail]

I can place belts there fine but not machines

[inland knoll]

if you compact it enough you run out of resources before floor space

[potent gull]

I already have

[inland knoll]

im using the extra to just get 80k in every plant and plant seed rn

for funsies

[frail trail]

I swear to god if it's because of this one npc

[potent gull]

I think I have 3 battery and 2 buck A going and it's just like... Damn this is all I can do huh

I wish we had placeable depots like in wuling

Hell I wish wuling stuff was at least USABLE in valley 4

[inland knoll]

[potent gull]

Unlocking all of these wonders of the world just to be limited to 2 factories

In an environment with basically NO ores

With a main material that can only be made once a second 💔

[thick charm]

for 540 240 1080 setup in v4, currently you can do 18 hc valley batt, and in total 18 t3 meds with 24 t1 meds, you can mix the meds between buck capsules and canned citromes

[inland knoll]

i can get behind a lot of it like xiranite relays are clearly only there to let them make an area with rivers and stuff but i do think the depot thing should totally be usable everywhere

depot access is just so annoying to deal w

[potent gull]

18 per min or 18 setups xd

[frozen field]

Asking this again since I want a clearer answer. Is having ferium usage in wuling at 115/min fine with no regional transfers

[inland knoll]

trying to squeeze the beltways out of the corner where the the depot busses meet

hate that

[thick charm]

18/min for 100% eff no clogs/sleeps

[potent gull]

Ok yeah that's what I was thinking

I got excited for a minute

[tired shore]

be smart and never buy depot upgrade 4/5 4head

its not like you need the depot space anyways

[inland knoll]

im producing 90 at max purity but i havent done the quest that unlocks that one area in jingyu valley so there might be an extra mining spot there

[thick charm]

can't do more as its the ferrium limit, unless theres metastorage from wuling to v4

[potent gull]

There isn't, I heard 90 is max

The stragglers cove is not an ore rich environment 🥱

[inland knoll]

i wish they made you produce exactly enough ferrium for both xiranite facilities to make batteries

[frozen field]

Yep. Ferrium is maxed at 90

[tired shore]

no? 90/min is max +25 comes from metatransfer

so 115 is max with metatransfers

[potent gull]

Doesn't meta transfer still take an hour

[tired shore]

its 1500/h = 25/min

[frozen field]

Thats the thing, my V4 AIC is now dry on ferrium. 23 left

[inland knoll]

repeats every hour automatically just think of it as 25/m for any resource thats 1500

[thick charm]

even with metastorage you'd need to manually transfer a few tons of ferrium to compensate the -5 yield for 100% eff xiranite stuffs

[frozen field]

I heard people say it dubplicates, but thats not true

[potent gull]

Looks like somebody needs metastorage

[inland knoll]

which is SO annoying that it's 5 off the 1 per 2s thats standard everywhere else

[balmy stirrup]

[tired shore]

this is just not true?

[inland knoll]

you need to use metastorage transfer not stockpile transfer

[tired shore]

nothing xiranite needs ferrium

[inland knoll]

batteries do

[tired shore]

they dont?

[balmy stirrup]

nah

[potent gull]

Ferrium bottles filled with liquid xiranite at best

[balmy stirrup]

they need orignium and sandleaf

[inland knoll]

sorry i mean meds

misremembered

[thick charm]

you need 120 yield, while ferriums in wuling has 90, you get the extra 25 from metastorage, and now you are left with deficit of 5 yields, you need to compensate that

[inland knoll]

yeah thats not xiranite

[tired shore]

ok welll technicaly lmao

[balmy stirrup]

yeah meds ig

[tired shore]

meds dont need xiranite

[potent gull]

But even then you can use any bottle right

[tired shore]

what you do is you make a 11/12 splitter and make slightly less bottles and slightly more parts

[frozen field]

But the bottles for turning them into med items do

[tired shore]

for steady 5.75 meds / min

which is what i do, in my blueprint posted here

[frozen field]

Oh, xiranite

[frail trail]

bro this fucking npc is blocking my machine

WHY

[safe vale]

Sacrifice them.

[tired shore]

1 belt for bottles, 1 belt for parts, 11/12th of a belt for bottles and 1/12 of a belt to parts gets you perfect 5.75 meds /min with 1500/h part import

[nova cradle]

slept all night only to realize I wasn't producing carbon cuz i connected by facilities wrong. I led a belt to nowhere

[thick charm]

oh ye thats doable with that amount of division

[tired shore]

total hell to get it to fit, but i got it

[balmy stirrup]

I honestly get lazy to get this as well

[thick charm]

also that way no manual transfers is needed, in case your ferrium in v4 is 1:1 yield:usage and is unable to generate at least a positive yield

[low obsidian]

How long is the water pipe

Yes

[vapid dock]

You dont, even with meds running at 95% efficiency its enough to cover hourly bills.

[uncut rock]

Anyone got a fun idea i can do with 20 power banks?

[jagged scroll]

I'm stupid, I've been placing xiranite pylons instead of relays..

[potent gull]

Fun fact! You can use splitters to purposefully bottleneck your ore usage :)

[uncut rock]

How?

[balmy stirrup]

its fine its bluetooth

[uncut rock]

Wait do they work i v4 too?

[thick charm]

i just compensate the inefficiency of meds with tighter battery usages

[rough stream]

how much ferrium to split if I want 5.75 Yazhen syringe? Im also transferring 1.5k ferrium

[hexed geyser]

is there a difference between these when mining originium?

[balmy stirrup]

nah

I wish

[uncut rock]

Damm

[balmy stirrup]

migrate xiranite tech to v4!!!!

[vapid dock]

One will use 5 more power for no increase in yield

[balmy stirrup]

sorry not migrate

[tired shore]

yeah, if you use the mk2 you can stop carrying the mk1's saving an inventory slot :))))

[granite socket]

thee only difference is power consumption

[balmy stirrup]

impliment

[inland knoll]

wait really

[tired shore]

yeah

[balmy stirrup]

mk2s use more power than mk 1s yeah

[inland knoll]

ive just been using the most advanced ones for everything

[tired shore]

lol

[inland knoll]

do the primitive ones use less

[hardy bronze]

holy inventory hog

[potent gull]

Use 1 or 2 of the splitter paths for the desired purpose, and put the remaining splitter path(s, depends on if you want a half or one or 2 third of production) into something like a protocol or back into depot

[uncut rock]

Got it

[granite socket]

yeah, mk1s use 5 power, while mk2s usee 10 power

[balmy stirrup]

I remember the days when this was ALLLLLLLLLLWAYS empty

[granite socket]

it's more efficient to use mk1s for originium and ameethyst, and then mk2s for ferrium to keep your power consumption lower

[jagged scroll]

But it is funny that you can use a thermal bank to send energy from normal relays into xiranite ones. Like a converter

[granite socket]

sincee it doesnt affect mining speed at all

[balmy stirrup]

wired and bluetooth duhhh

[potent gull]

Yadda yadda, get to work delivery boy!

[tired shore]

"the days"
you mean like... 3 days ago lmao

[inland knoll]

in a few weeks itll be "i remember the days when this was only valley 4 jobs"

50 refreshes for 5k wuling jobs 😭

[balmy stirrup]

cant even be bothered to claim this ngl

[potent gull]

The claim all button in the bottom right:

[balmy stirrup]

ik

i lowk

dont need money anymore

[potent gull]

Stockpile it until you do

Duhhh

[balmy stirrup]

im letting it rot there

[potent gull]

If it isn't max keep pulling stacks

[inland knoll]

thanks i never wouldve even considered that i should check their power if anything id assume better rigs take less energy

[balmy stirrup]

this also beat my own record of exchange

it was 500+ to 5200

[potent gull]

Refer to my prior message

[inland knoll]

i thought at max outpost income youd end up barely being able to get all the engraving permits every week

[low obsidian]

Pipe pt2

[vital hound]

In wiling should I use the xiranite relay and pylon or can I still use the normal ones from valley 4?

[shadow hawk]

wth bro hahahaha

[low obsidian]

Use the normal one for manual pull

Xiranite is automatically connect

But you cannot manually pull from a xiranite stuff

[vital hound]

So does it mean the Xiranite can't go to far from the base

[low obsidian]

So if you use xiranite you must use xiranite for the rest of the stuff

[low obsidian]

Xiranite can only connect with nearby xiranite

[inland knoll]

i cant think of any possible advantage to normal ones really

unless you just like how they look

[runic epoch]

Use xiranite pylons outside

Use the normal pylons in the aic

[low obsidian]

It auto connect to PAC and Another xiranite stuff

[vital hound]

It mostly because I built like Hundreds of the normal one when I was doing the settlement in valley 4 So now I got a lot still

[low obsidian]

I prefer the normal one tho

Pulling cable is fun 🤣

[inland knoll]

i built thousands bc i got annoyed asf having the popup so often when i was making 100 at a time

[rough stream]

do wuling plants need 1 water pipe or half

[inland knoll]

half

[lyric ridge]

Uh ig this can work for now

[normal wasp]

Construction Complete

[livid cairn]

Who are you going to nuke?

[jagged scroll]

Not the Hand of Nod? Dissapointing

[cosmic folio]

Why I see the peaceful sign on it 👀

[unkempt pasture]

The Valley will grow larger

[normal wasp]

its from red alert 2

[ornate scaffold]

how do i unlock buck a?

[idle grove]

buckflower powder + sandleaf power in grinder

[ornate scaffold]

ah okay

[thorny galleon]

You'll need Sandleaf, which you'll get near the [STORY] ||end of Valey IV, when you get to the Power Plateau||

[ornate scaffold]

and that can go into the infinite planter loop right?

since it's a plant?

[novel herald]

Bruh how

[livid cairn]

yes

[novel herald]

I'm barely making enough to get all essence ticket

[ornate scaffold]

bro this tower defense bs is gonna burn me out

[livid cairn]

you can leave it until you get better turret

[thorny galleon]

Sandleaf can do the plant loop, yeah, but as a note when Shredder-ized, it becomes 3 powder instead of the usual 2

[balmy stirrup]

Basically built what I’ve needed for now, I dont need wuling engraving stuff since I’m not pulling for a LONG time, I might build a secondary physical team tho :)

It’s not that I don’t need money

[novel herald]

How bout the valley engraving stuffs?

[balmy stirrup]

It’s just Im at the point where I’m satisfied with what I have

Yeah my main carry’s all fully engraved

And artificed

[novel herald]

Dem bro

U quick

[balmy stirrup]

The supports just have their infliction and main attribution

[idle grove]

is there a power source in the cave region after originium science park?(i forgor its name)

[balmy stirrup]

Started implementing aic stuff early