aic-factory

[storm garnet]

including plugging all ore nodes

[autumn maple]

still recommend to do some minor tutorial

and progress the story

[turbid gyro]

see the thing is. im at a standstill. my gear cant push through fighitning the triaggelio and i kinda want to get some damage ready...

[ancient zinc]

Hitting HC production guess time to switch Buck A..

[sudden egret]

You level up your characters and their weapons?

[storm garnet]

just level up, gear is not that important

[autumn maple]

level up weapon & character

[vapid granite]

Every time i add a Buck capsule farm, the entire base starts to look like shet

[sudden egret]

You're going to get way more stats leveling up characters/weapons than getting new gear

[storm garnet]

the sad part about capsule is that it uses double ferrium than batteries

[haughty wharf]

My base already looks like sheet cause of the 6 buck capsul farms I have lmao

[turbid gyro]

they're already at what i can say max on my current stage in the game...

[vapid granite]

God damn buck capsule farms

Yahzen syringes ftw

[autumn maple]

improve your gameplay. gear (except weapon) doesnt help much in early phase

[sudden egret]

If you're at max character level, and weapon level, gear isn''t going to change much tbh. It might help you just barely get over the edge, but if you're not hitting phase 3 triag, gaer isn't saving you

[autumn maple]

i meant, devs already nerfed the monster many time

dont give up easily

try learn dodge more and learn enemy attack pattern

[vapid granite]

Thing about buck capsules is that Sandleaf dust

One dust cost 3- so i assume i should make 3 bottle farms

Same thing with grouned buckflower, i should make 3 buckflower flower farms ? It just takes a lot of space after that

[ancient zinc]

Casual players : meh me lazy to do it

[tight sedge]

Yeah you can literally just look at it and adjust it to your needs. Factory building is so easy to do when a BP shows you everything.

[autumn maple]

i cant encourage casual player more than this

[ancient zinc]

It’s like comparing switch depot to manual transfer is lazy..

[turbid gyro]

its not the patterns im afraid of, it's the time it takes to kill the damn boss...

[static hatch]

Why no work?

[ancient zinc]

I remember someone called me LAZY for doing switch depot

[storm garnet]

this is not factorio

[ancient zinc]

[sudden egret]

I mean, it's a boss. It's not gonna be a 30s kill. It's gonna be a multiple minute run

[storm garnet]

you need a converger

[static hatch]

Depression 😔😔😔

[autumn maple]

sir. gear doesnt improve kill time

at most

on early game

[storm garnet]

same

[sudden egret]

This isn't Factorio, you require the Converger facility on the belt

[static hatch]

Alr thx

[turbid gyro]

ig im just used to other games that i can slap constellations/character copies and slam resin and clear time gets solved..

[sudden egret]

That's a hoyoverse game for you. Where you can jsut stat check everything

hoyoverse games were always just stat checks

[turbid gyro]

i did that in wuwa too.

[ancient zinc]

Doing random things as bored

[storm garnet]

wuwa is a genshin copy, lets be honest

[sudden egret]

Welp, in this game it encourages you to work with combo n'shit

[storm garnet]

i say that as a wuwa lover

[unreal olive]

Factory must grow!

[digital dew]

is there a big difference between high and low purity ores

[autumn maple]

different game offer different pace

[ancient zinc]

Going to fill outpost full of tanks

[storm garnet]

high gives double

[digital dew]

ah

[autumn maple]

if you treat both game as same, you might face some stupidity

[ancient zinc]

Not copy but Upgrade

[turbid gyro]

anyways. what does mean?

[storm garnet]

tru

[haughty wharf]

I wonder how arknights went from tower defense pvz gameplay to phd in production and combos

[turbid gyro]

true ig. game is so slow compared to other gacha games i've played and i've played the original arknights... but this game feels too slow....

[storm garnet]

putting miners on the nodes and give them electricity

[ancient zinc]

I remember people ask for artifact loadout yet years after..nothing

[sudden egret]

TD doesn''t work well in 3d. So they were gonna need some form of fundamental change

[haughty wharf]

Well thats a massive change lmao

[ancient zinc]

70% factory building 30% action

[sudden egret]

There is technically some TD in the game, but you can see how jank it is in 3d

[autumn maple]

not wrong. most player & friend i know from genshin are overwhelmed by factory-gaming

and then, they quit

[turbid gyro]

which leads me to my next question, do you guys have those neat things where you place thosde ziplines on the map?

[red pelican]

Anyone else experiencing anomalous fluctuations in their factory even though all resources are flowing properly?

[sudden egret]

So unless they were just gonna comepltly remake AK but in 3d, a fundamental change in how the game plays is 100% required

[storm garnet]

real td in ake is just putting 13 turrets right next to those essence farms

[turbid gyro]

its not the factory aspect of it. ive played factorio, i think it's fun. it's mostly the fact that blasting through the content feels too long.

[autumn maple]

check if your flow are "sleeping" or "clogging"

[haughty wharf]

Well I get to min max characters which is what Im here for so im happy

[ancient zinc]

Coz the only thing they knew / grow up is quick spam animation for big numbers

[red pelican]

I mean I sat there watching them for a few minutes and nothing clogs. And all raw resources are pretty much at max capacity in my depot. It's really weird.

[storm garnet]

go make 18 hc batteries btw, you should be able to

[proud robin]

Lore accurate

[sudden egret]

Really? I felt the story was to short and underdeveloped

[ancient zinc]

It’s like if your afraid trying different of teas it’s fine everyone have different taste

[autumn maple]

then wait for a bit until its stable (assuming the flow are perfect)

[red pelican]

I'm probably optimizing way more than you. XD

[digital dew]

what is the theoretical usage/yield based on

[autumn maple]

it's pace should be standard gacha game imo. aside from factory and its tutorial.

[haughty wharf]

Capitalism in my wuling

[storm garnet]

no?

[ancient zinc]

Jokes on you some can reach 21+

[gray oar]

do yall just put extra Xiranite relays near the PAC so that your net doesn't go down if you move the PAC?

[sudden egret]

Building can consume X-input assuming full capacity
and Send out X-output assuming full capacity. Each building that is active will have a theoritical max

[storm garnet]

also, i read the capsule a as 18, but it was 12 on yours.

[red pelican]

Yea, but they're probably sacrificing buck A capsules.

[storm garnet]

and i mean, it should be 18

[turbid gyro]

like i said, i normally blast through content within the first few days and have no trouble clearing bosses early game but this game bruteforces me into fighting story bosses for way too long because gear in this game doesn't affect how fast you can kill something

[digital dew]

ah ty

[ancient zinc]

More like 21/18

[sudden egret]

Good, you're here to play the game right? Play the game

If you wanted Big number kill, there'''s better Gacha''s for that

[storm garnet]

you can't make more than 18 batteries since you get limited by originum

[haughty wharf]

No, weapons do though. They add stat mods to your characters dmg

[tall solar]

Does anyone have a working code for NA/EU of IWinToLoseGaming’s wulinh batttery build?

[storm garnet]

we would be doing triple the battery count if we had enough originum, and space

[red pelican]

All I know is that I'm using up ALL my originium and ferrium nodes. I'm even overusing originium occasionally by toggling item control ports from time to time.

[storm garnet]

stop making sc batteries and make another capsule a line

[short latch]

anyone know how much this makes https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464202880410980472 ?

[red pelican]

I would do the same for ferrium, but manually monitoring more than 1 resource is too f'ing much for me. They need to give us item control ports that have more than 5k limits. Oh, AND WITH TIMERS for resetting. XD

[turbid gyro]

anyways. for questions related to factory, does unlocking all factory related stuff always better for now and just not touch factory until i unlock the entire maps?

[red pelican]

I'll run out of ferrium if I do that.

[vast iron]

Cant you just manually reduce a line output with splitters

[sudden egret]

It''s' ultimatly up to you. But I didn't interact with factory stuff at all till I finished the V4 story

[storm garnet]

you get exact ferrium to make 18 capsule a and 18 batteries

[ancient zinc]

When supply is about to hit low u turn off production like or whole outpost to recover..dats what I usually do .

[storm garnet]

depends if you are going to rush the story

[ancient zinc]

After few hours it back to go back full production like nothing happened

[turbid gyro]

how long is each story, just wanting to ask just incase it gets worse for the bosses.

[sudden egret]

There''s only 1 more boss after. And it's the conclusion of hte V4 story

[ancient zinc]

But I left my HC production Online 😭

[atomic sedge]

What would you say is a good income of hc valley batteries

[storm garnet]

why bother turning it off and on when you can have perfect ratios

[storm garnet]

18

[red pelican]

I'm sending ferrium over to my Wuling every hour.

[sudden egret]

Most people in endgame are making 18/m

[turbid gyro]

then after that i can start going for the factory, right? what parts of the factory should i look into when starting?

[storm garnet]

just get to level 12 and it's free

unless you mean manual transfers using the backpack

[sudden egret]

If you want, I only started anything factory wise after I beat the V4 story

[sudden egret]

As for what to look into when starting? The stuff your outposts will need to level up

[red pelican]

What's free? The transfer? I am at 12 I believe.

[maiden bay]

am i doing Wuling right?

[sudden egret]

Meta-transfer is free shit out of thin air. Just make sure when doing Regional Transfer that you specifically select Meta storage

[storm garnet]

level 12 valley 4 unlocks meta transfer, which allows you to give wuling 1500 ferrium per hour for free, that's 25/min btw

[autumn maple]

do 3 ferium output and thats the best we can have

[sudden egret]

prety much, though you can increase ferrium usage for your juice/syringe

[storm garnet]

so you get 115/min in wuling

[storm garnet]

you still need 5/min done manually for an optimal factory

[red pelican]

It's not taking it from my Valley depot?

[storm garnet]

that's stockpile

[sage socket]

how to balance the originum, i have mined all

[storm garnet]

use meta

[red pelican]

Huh

[sudden egret]

Cancel that transfer, then where it says stockpile change it to meta storage

[turbid gyro]

which are?

[sage socket]

how to balance the Originum

[sudden egret]

idk, look at the menus. It'll tell you what you can sell to get stockbills and properity points for the outposts

It's hte the Regional Development menu

[ancient zinc]

1 Syringe/juice production line can be stable..but if u tried to add more production that uses Ferr ores..trust me next time u log in u see 0 quantities

[red pelican]

So meta storage is literally pulling materials out of thin air?

Like someone said?

[storm garnet]

yes

[red pelican]

WTF

LOL

[sudden egret]

You think I haven''t had it like that for days on end? Of course I know...who cares

[red pelican]

HOW DOES THAT MAKE ANY SENSE IN THIS GAME.

[storm garnet]

but only 25/min

[sudden egret]

Yes, it creates shit out of thin air

[digital dew]

damn is this weally the max yield for originium

[sudden egret]

yes

[storm garnet]

you only need 540 for 18/min hc batteries

[sage socket]

HELP WHERE DID U FIND another 30

[storm garnet]

don't be greedy :P

[sudden egret]

Get RDL11, and double check every orig node

[maiden bay]

can i use the juice for something else?

[storm garnet]

check again your map, you are missing some

[turbid gyro]

OH that's what it is. thanks! i'll start watching videos abt it

[red pelican]

@storm garnet Thanks bro. I'm sorry for doubting you.

[storm garnet]

np

[sage socket]

Im using 630 per min is that bad

[storm garnet]

yes lol

[sudden egret]

Use it yourself, or sell it to the outpost

[sage socket]

for a yield of 530

[digital dew]

its a 35/min SC battery

[storm garnet]

sc batteries should be avoided

[maiden bay]

oh, outpost lvl1, i guess i ll have it unlock later

[storm garnet]

you can jump from lc to hc directly tbh

[sudden egret]

SC batteries are a waste if you can make HC batteries

[digital dew]

welp

[sage socket]

Im using the KyostinV blueprint

HAHAHHAHAHAHA

[digital dew]

ill work on it

[sudden egret]

If you're able to make HC batteries, it's nothing but a complete waste to make any lesser battery

[storm garnet]

another public announcement: valley 4: 18 capsule a, 18 hc battery, 24 citrome c

[maiden bay]

need more wuling, i only have half bases, i m forced to do belt and pipes chaos for fun

[storm garnet]

for me, this is the only info i wanted when playing, no bps

[digital dew]

que

[ancient zinc]

Have u try to do environmental quest?

It gives wuling currency enough for 1st expansion

[storm garnet]

tbh, this game is too simple to waste it with bps, it's like why play at all

[digital dew]

we are limited by our lack of resources, we must expand

we should be making 50 batteries per half second

[sudden egret]

Time investment. Some people play like 4 different gacha's and don't want to spend 6 hours figuring out a factory. Especially if it's not their genre of preference

[storm garnet]

yes, lets make factories all over the map

[digital dew]

what is bps

[ancient zinc]

Building pipes in wuling City

[storm garnet]

yea, but why play this game then, the combat is just okish

[sudden egret]

The factory genre is not a popular genre for a reason. It''s mostly math and tedium which most people don't like

[storm garnet]

i'm not saying people should optimize everything, but idk, just copy and past and avoid the factory entirely? that's like most of the game

[sudden egret]

It's a small part of the game frankly

It's very easy to not need anything factory related for the most part

[short latch]

this is asia only https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464202880410980472 ?

[sudden egret]

Like if someone did factory stuff just for gear, that wouldn''t suprise me

[digital dew]

we only destroy the environment for the love of the game

[ancient zinc]

Blueprint short term BP

[storm garnet]

the thing is, i don't see the game having much if you finish exploration and building the factory

but i guess we are waiting for endgame modes

[digital dew]

ah

[sudden egret]

Ok, but what gacha does?

[digital dew]

well i agree with this

[ancient zinc]

I see people demands more contents asap

Since speed run/rushing

[digital dew]

late agreement but yeah

😭

[storm garnet]

just cause other gachas are whatever doesnt mean this game must be the exact same

[sudden egret]

But it's a genre expectation

[storm garnet]

i'm not demanding more content, though it would be appreciated, i'm just talking about the bp usage

[sudden egret]

If I load up a mechwarrior game, I''m not expecting movement like gundam

[storm garnet]

i think the bps the game give you are enough to get an idea anyways

[digital dew]

blueprints r also ways for the community to connect frfr

[gray oar]

do belt bridges slow down produt transportation?

[ancient zinc]

For me copying someone’s BP is like learning how the thing works and reverse engineer it to ur specifications

[sudden egret]

Also blueprint use in games like Factorio are common as well. I'm not manually making a load balancer every time, and I'm not manually building a steel factory every time

[storm garnet]

true, i do that a lot in factorio

[sudden egret]

I'm not gonna manually make my own train system. I'm gonna BP that shit that I found online

because it's faster easier, and lets me get to the parts of the game I do like

It's the same exact concept here

[gray oar]

Shredders are clogged yet grinders stay idle cuz no originium powder

[digital dew]

do yall know factory games that r on mobile

[storm garnet]

i'm just saying that space is so small that whatever you can build you will build it in no time. even a busy person will be done before 1.1

[sudden egret]

You have a shredder unconnected, and another shredder connected to 2 grinders

[gray oar]

oh wait lmao

[lime fern]

Can I level my infra level besides selling stuff?

[sudden egret]

Only sell

[ancient zinc]

Over that corner where Sandleaf is…gives me anxiety

[gray oar]

why

[digital dew]

we love spaghetti

[ancient zinc]

It could be in the middle

[sudden egret]

It does low-key look like you looked at a guide without understanding why they placed things in certain spots

[short latch]

anyone knows how much this makes https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464202880410980472 ?

[sage socket]

SHOULD I BE WORRIED ABOUT THE ORIGINIUM?

[sudden egret]

Yes, you're using to much

[tough scarab]

probably

[autumn maple]

max source is 560

[sage socket]

does the electrical thingy affects

like those pylons

[tough scarab]

affect what

[sudden egret]

What do you mean

[sage socket]

the originium usage

[storm garnet]

well, it's either connected or not

[tough scarab]

no it doesn't

[sudden egret]

pylons don't use originium

[sage socket]

only my factory right

[gray oar]

You could say i'm a fan of corner sandleaf setup

[sudden egret]

Yeah, only your factory can use it

you're using 3 inputs worth of orignium overuse

[ancient zinc]

I give u hint..

Sandleaf blocking

[storm garnet]

also, weird that you have 550 instead of either 540 or 560

[sage socket]

IDK WHY AS WELL

maybe they havent become high purity

[storm garnet]

just one? i doubt it

[empty furnace]

regional level has him with 1 vein still at low purity intead of high is one explanation

[storm garnet]

what level are you

[sudden egret]

Either way a 10/m difference in max orignium in V4 changes nothing

[sage socket]

52

[storm garnet]

regional level

[sage socket]

like 6

[sudden egret]

oh yeah, your mineral purities are ass

[lime fern]

Then what is the purpose for the tower defense mode?

[sage socket]

i can upgrade to 7

[storm garnet]

in valley 4?

[lime fern]

Just oroberyl.

[sage socket]

yeah

[storm garnet]

yea, still low

[sudden egret]

Allows the outpost to make more stockbills, enabling you to sell MOAR

[storm garnet]

must be that, but still weird

[lime fern]

I see

[digital dew]

do yall know how much regional development points stock redistribution place thingy upgrades give in total

[sage socket]

im so close to deleting this game but i must thrive for Ardashir

[sudden egret]

A good chunk. Required to get them all up to max if you want level 12

[gray oar]

it would be so nice if there was a "AIC factory simulation" mode where you can plan stuff and make blueprints

[digital dew]

do u think max outposts r also needed

[sudden egret]

yes

[storm garnet]

you mean factorio?

[digital dew]

ah

[sudden egret]

This is what I use a blank sub-AIC for

[sage socket]

FINALLLYYYYY

[gray oar]

i have a purple bat line on each 😔

[sage socket]

I FORGOT I HAVE A BATTERY FARM AT POWER PLATEAU

[sudden egret]

Welp, can't help you much there then

[empty furnace]

dont have a completely empty outpost in wuling?

[sage socket]

@sudden egret @storm garnet thanks for the reassurance

[storm garnet]

it's weird the game gives you short of 10 originum at level 6 but still much less of the other ores lol

[gray oar]

what's the size of meta purp battery production? mine's 19x36 but it's not that compact

[sudden egret]

It's because you reach near max of the first two zones pretty early

but all the Ferrium is in the later zones

[sage socket]

they hate me fr

[oblique hedge]

I have been fired from the factory good day gentlement

[signal dock]

does any1 have a 24 tile wide buckA setup

[gray oar]

main PAC for wuling bat/parts for gear and sub for plant loops

[sudden egret]

Check #1461542035617091681

[sage socket]

i had the worst luck in this game, like

[storm garnet]

well, i'ts not luck if it's by design

[empty furnace]

i mean those can all fit into the main tbh, then you can have your playground for making blueprints

[storm garnet]

or use the space on main for playing around too

[empty furnace]

also true

[sage socket]

true

[oblique hedge]

So who's uploading troll bps

[ivory spear]

Would yall recommend making steel and storing it in the depot to use elsewhere or should I include it as part of production lines

[oblique hedge]

Cause there is some absolutely OSHA bs going on

[sudden egret]

Up to you. I do that and it doubles as a product to sell
But most people just dump it into another Citrome/Buck [A] line

[storm garnet]

steel in valley 4 is exact numbers needed, sadly

[ivory spear]

Buck A lines are so large…

[sudden egret]

Its up to you

Make a [B] line, and make some steel parts on the side

or make an [A] line

[ivory spear]

I wanted to make a second buck a line but didn’t have space

[storm garnet]

but you can drop some A lines to get ferrium for wuling

you can make 3 buck a lines in valley

[ivory spear]

Dang my efficiency is tragic then

[storm garnet]

3 buck a 3 hc batteries

4 citrome c

[ivory spear]

How the blazes

[sudden egret]

RDL11 allows that

[storm garnet]

by blazing

[ivory spear]

I don’t got the planning capabilities for that

[storm garnet]

easy, just delete everything and start from zero

[ivory spear]

I really should do that…

[storm garnet]

something i'll never do, i love spaghetti

[sudden egret]

I'm sure there's a guide linked with a blueprint in #1461542035617091681

[signal dock]

cant find any

gg

noone made 6/m 24tile wide blueprint

guess i'll continue struggling

[ivory spear]

Upon entering that thread I have witnessed things human beings should not be capable of

[sudden egret]

you might just have to custom make it

[signal dock]

yeah im on it rn 😭

made 30x27 6/m HCBat BP because i couldnt find any premade ones

[jagged scroll]

Is it fair to assume there are multiple stages to unlock in Wulin version too?

[signal dock]

that is it so far

but later on there will be more stages

[storm garnet]

what you see is what we have in this patch

there is a few more on the right after some main quests though

[jagged scroll]

Ahh because the blueprint had this listed in it.

[strong minnow]

wtf happend to my 10 pull 😭

[empty furnace]

probably the upgrade to allow 2 sky forges

[jagged scroll]

Even Chen alter

ahh

[autumn maple]

might aswell use chen ak1 lol

[jagged scroll]

I'm curious now if Endfield would also get collabs like Monster Hunter. One way to get Chen alter.

[autumn maple]

possible

but its still v1.0

just patience

i guess

[storm garnet]

idk how many og arknights had

but i guess about the same cadence

[lofty hedge]

is 0.75 xiranite component/min good enough for gold gear production if 22k stock bill/hr

[storm garnet]

i just made 12k and stopped doing them for now

[pseudo orchid]

guy how to get sub base or somthing like that

[storm garnet]

quest

[signal dock]

i fucking hate when my pylon is 1 short

[storm garnet]

check the missions that say "new feature"

[pseudo orchid]

what it name please

alr thanks

[storm garnet]

git gud

[signal dock]

1 short of finishing BP

[sudden egret]

yeah

[signal dock]

and no clue how to optimise it further man

[storm garnet]

you have space down below

[signal dock]

that makes the BP larger

duhh

[storm garnet]

wait, maybe it's a 1 tile, cant tell

[signal dock]

1tile

[lofty hedge]

are you sur, it looks like u get like 1 gold gear worth of components in 1 hour but u make 3 gold gear worth of stock bills/hr i think

[storm garnet]

move 2 shredders to the right

[signal dock]

cant

dont have space

it makes the entire BP larger 😭

[storm garnet]

ah, ok

[signal dock]

I want to have BP that is as wide as the importers

[sudden egret]

Honestly dude, it's up to you. You can either have 3/m of gold gear components, 1.5/m, or cut even that into .75 like you said. Or just skip it all together

[storm garnet]

you have to make it longer then

[signal dock]

yeah i can fix it by making it 1 longer

but i HOPE that is not needed

dont see how i can avoid it tho

[sudden egret]

Pyramids

That's how

[reef cobalt]

Question: So I'm in Wuling and have the Bus Depot, but I don't know how to do the thing

[sudden egret]

Place teh depot anywhere you want

then attach unloaders/loaders

[reef cobalt]

Do I just use the standard ports from Valley 4 and attach them?

[signal dock]

ya

[reef cobalt]

Okay, cool, thanks

[timber phoenix]

Why does the current data say 21

[sudden egret]

one of your packagers is working half capacity

[lost lantern]

All the df haters who disagreed with me on “recycling stations should be collectable remotely”, take your fat fat L 💀

[timber phoenix]

Am I stupid?

[autumn maple]

recheck if your factory are clogging/sleeping

[timber phoenix]

Yes I am stupid

[autumn maple]

[timber phoenix]

One exit was not on amethyst

[jagged scroll]

Is my stockpile automatically linked with the AIC in Wulin for building. Or do I need to manually transfer stuff over like batteries? Or is that the metastorage transfer from lvl12 region I got.

[sudden egret]

V4 and Wuling are separate stockpiles

[jagged scroll]

kk

[autumn maple]

separate storage. this is where both qol there and gone

more space storage but need to transfer manually

[jagged scroll]

Mhh..

[turbid lance]

With items with that outputs in multiples(taking sandleaf as an example), is it better to output it into 3 seperate belts or a single belt with splitters is okay? I'm leaning on the former

[sudden egret]

single belt with splitters is equivalent to 1 belt

so use 3 separate belts

[turbid lance]

Yeah thought as much

Anyway thanks

[sudden egret]

Just remember, splitters and convergers don't actually increase throughput or output of anything

Buildings will still send out onto a belt at a rate of 30/m. It's not able to send 3 items into a splitter to be put onto 3 belts via the splitter. The factory building sees the splitter as 1 belt

[signal dock]

managed to make it work

[gray oar]

absolutely never let me cook

well it's not that bad for 50% uptime xiranite components i think

[sudden egret]

Eh, it's wuling

I wouldn't sweat space usage

You'd have to purposely make something bad to use even half the space available

[atomic sedge]

Ive done worse

[atomic sedge]

Not to mention you will run out of ore income long before running out of space

[gray oar]

if i converge 2 water pump pipes into one it should bottleneck, right?

[sudden egret]

yup

[gray oar]

nice

[dense fractal]

how do you get 360 originium in wuling Im already regional development level 4 and I have all the nodes tapped?

[storm garnet]

aren't pipes 4/2seconds? and pumps 2/2seconds?

[empty furnace]

probably by double/triple checking the maps in jingyu/wuling until you find the ones you dont have lol you should have it if theyre all connected and powered on

[digital bear]

hi guys how the hell did i manage to max out my protocol capacity??

[storm garnet]

some nodes weren't even available to put miners on at first, so you are probably missing those

[jaunty epoch]

still dont know why sanity tickets cost 600k and they arent restocked

[storm garnet]

2 units per seconds, so 4 per 2 seconds

[digital bear]

actually yeah how the hell did I max out my protocol capacity and how do i increase it

[empty furnace]

right

just visual proof 😄

[timber phoenix]

Convergers feel so useless

[jaunty epoch]

maybe they had belt speed upgrade in mind when they added it

[empty furnace]

for pipes?

[timber phoenix]

For everything

most machines work on a 2s timer

And belts work on 2s too

[empty furnace]

i cant think of any uses for a belt converger that make sense, but for pipes, it helps manage clutter

[storm garnet]

you can converge 2 pumps into 1 pipe, so it's not useless for pipes

you can merge belts from the 10 seconds machines to use less space

[smoky skiff]

Wth i just add 1 refining unit😭

[empty furnace]

its really annoying that a pipe doesnt move 6 units/2seconds

[dense fractal]

I was missing the ones in the cave

[empty furnace]

glad you found them!

[solid arrow]

guys anyone has a good blueprint for xiranite component?

[gentle seal]

#1461542035617091681

[silent violet]

https://klipy.com/gifs/vince-carter-vince-carter-come-on-1

[torn sedge]

The Factory Must Grow. How goes it everyone?

[storm garnet]

still on aquilo

[torn sedge]

I should loook for the patch notes

[rain schooner]

Can i not just drain water onto the ground? It always has to go into something else? Also if so, I cant like delete the water from the storage capsules? I have to put them in bottles or something?

[kind elbow]

hello. whats the difference between electric pylon and xiranite pylon?

also these two

[rain schooner]

one is wireless, the other is not

thats literally it

[autumn maple]

xiranite = wifi

better in most aspect

[kind elbow]

oh okay thanks

so basically just deploy within 80m

[autumn maple]

you can combo relay - pylon on xiranite during the journey

since you dont have to plugin it

[torn sedge]

iirc, one of the first tutorials you do for the water system is "This thing draws up water while this other thing drains it"

it isn't that complicated?

[kind elbow]

is there a way to easily produce xiranite? I always go back to valey IV to produce those refined powderd carbon stuff and put in back pack

[torn sedge]

Also, considering it is in the AIC section, I'm so happy we have a minimap now when ziplining. That is such a god send. I want it now

[zenith seal]

I think he's asking if it could work like irl where the water has nowhere to go and floods the ground instead.

The answer to that is still no though.

[gentle seal]

What do you mean "easily"?

[autumn maple]

supply the carbon straight from wuling instead?

produce there

dont do in valley

[torn sedge]

? Of course. Just use local flora and the water-system seed/plant loop to provide carbon

[kind elbow]

like. i dont want to go back to valley 4 anymore. just produce everything in wulling

[autumn maple]

then, do it

[torn sedge]

That is 100% possible

espcially for Xiranite

[kind elbow]

oh i think i havent gone that part yet

[gentle seal]

You can already do that? I'm confused

[kind elbow]

but thanks ill try this

[zenith seal]

Whats ur xiranite production at? xiranite should not be the one that can't be maintained at 100% efficiency

[torn sedge]

Might be something to just go through up to the available content first then go back to your AIC in Wuling and go from there

Just do the usual things of "Pick up things as you go along the story" and you'll have the raw mats to do things

then after story, go around tapping all the nodes in Wuling

then start building up your AIC from there

[zenith seal]

Yep pretty much, theres more than enough originium nodes around the map

[torn sedge]

if you hadn't had V4 optimized yet, maybe do some Originium->Origicrust loops to get you some raw mats to build the required facilities

Hmn

I need to look at the facilities again

Crust is for the basic

but I think Steel also does something?

Plant related stuff also needs raw carbon

so doing a simple V4 plant loop -> carbon capture should provide

[autumn maple]

doing origocrust & steel is okay during developing

both are required to build something

[torn sedge]

I mean, I'm assuming worst case scenario of someone literally powering through MSQ and barely touching AIC at even V4

[autumn maple]

[olive basalt]

im finally done

[torn sedge]

at worst, someone just doing Amethyst Component tier

[split elm]

what should my Valley 4 AICs be producing if I have both completely levelled up all my outposts and have unlocked Wuling?

[frigid scarab]

Welcome to team 24/18/18

[torn sedge]

First thing you have to ensure is that you're tapping all the resources nodes

[oak tundra]

what units are the ones that can disseminate multiple items it creates on multiple belts at the same time?

[torn sedge]

if you're not tapping all the resoruces nodes, you're not optmizing anything

[olive basalt]

[torn sedge]

? All facilities with multiple outputs could do that. Just place out multiple belts leading to other places on their outputs

I also prefer Citron myself

I find the HoT to be more useful

so I tap into Citron A every once in a whle

[oak tundra]

I have tried this and only certain units do it. even when theres multiple in the queue to be processed it still only staggers 1 at a time

[hidden temple]

at the same time would depend on the formula
like shredded powder spitting 2 or 3, or a planter for 2 wuling pants

[torn sedge]

Of course output will depend on the speed on which an item is assembled and what the resulting amount would be

The manfacturing time and output result is static

having multiple belts outgoing will not speed up these metrics

[oak tundra]

so what ur saying is that if the production output is 1:2 then it can only output on 2 belts not 3? where as a 1:1 will only output 1?

[torn sedge]

exactly

[autumn maple]

this is right

you need to check the output number for some product. or the input

[torn sedge]

Of course, the facility will tempo output items if the assembled result is 2 on a belt of 3, etc etc

[hidden temple]

if you put 3 output belts on a 1:1 product it'll just alternate between the 3 belts yes

[torn sedge]

or as Bread said, it will do the same on an output of 1 on 3 belts

[oak tundra]

okay, It makes sense and I essentially had that logic in the back of my mind but was hoping somewhere somehow it would still magically be able to output on more belts than it can produce with the 1:1 or 1:2 ratio when there's some in the queue

[torn sedge]

The only result that would yield a full output per tick on 3 belts, iirc, is Sandleaf powder

because 1 Sandleaf will output 3 Sandleaf powder

[ancient zinc]

I’m going full HAM

[hidden temple]

if production clogs or momentarily halts for some reason and the internal storage of a facility piles up, yes it can spit out more than 1 at once
but if you're spitting out 3 of a 1:1 product, it'll eventually just empty and go back to spitting 1 at a time

[zenith seal]

There's no way you can keep this up for long lol

[ancient zinc]

Better use those Xira than Sitting doing nothing

[oak tundra]

okay, I just reset my entire factory so im starting from square 1 to optimize it better since I unlocked all upgrades for the main hub

[split elm]

what should my Valley 4 AICs be producing if I have both completely levelled up all my outposts and have unlocked Wuling?

[ancient zinc]

I mean my xira is almost 40k+

[torn sedge]

Just remember that a fully optimized end-game V4 relies on a full tap and appropriate regional development levels

[torn sedge]

Technically speaking, you should have a stockpile of raw resources (Origicrust, Steel Parts, etc etc) and some finished products (have a nice pile of explosives would be good) before going for the 24/18/18

[zenith seal]

Same thing as always to clear out v4 stock bills. 18 hc batts 18 cap a minimum.

The rest can be whatever else but most common i think is LC batt and cap C

Im already able to clear out shop with 18/18 so i didnt see the need to craft more

Though I do see the potential of sending HC batt to wuling to maximize wuling bucks but that's too much work

[rain schooner]

huh how? I thought max was 12 a min

[zenith seal]

It is.

He had xira reserves pile up then started making batts again

[kind elbow]

theres no sandleaf/buckflower formula in wulling planting unit. how do I reproduce those?

im desperate sorry

[autumn maple]

turn off the "water mode"

[kind elbow]

AAAHH NOW ISEE IT THANKS A LOT

[torn sedge]

tho I would use it for carbon making. there is a formula there]

[zenith seal]

You can switch mode to go back to standard recipes.

Wuling recipes are superior but you need water to be pumped into then which means new BP

[torn sedge]

iirc, the carbon output for those Wuling plants is 2?

[gentle seal]

1. You can turn off water mode
2. [Image]

[autumn maple]

@kind elbow use new recipe to produce carbon. with wuling seed

[kind elbow]

yeah thanks to all of you

[autumn maple]

for this, need "water mode" on

better than sandleaf

[kind elbow]

oh okay I'll check that. could be handy

[lofty hedge]

Is there a better operator than wulfguard to station at sky king

[oak tundra]

there are some raw deposit locations I still need to get, is the only course of action to use the relay towers / pylons to power to the deposits so that I can use the electric drill?

[autumn maple]

he's the best

for now

afaik

[novel sun]

im confused. How do people run 18 per min hc battery? im running way under for originium

did i miss some ore veins?

[sturdy flume]

ive hooked up about 95% of ferrium nodes, why is the yield so low?

[autumn maple]

did you trying to produce other stuff than dense originium

[novel sun]

???

what do you mean

[autumn maple]

check if there's clogging/sleeping factory

[torn sedge]

hook up 100% then. And get higher regional development

[lofty hedge]

wb infra station and power plateau i got like chen and somebody else there i forgor

[autumn maple]

are there any production ongoing. other than dense originium

[torn sedge]

Oh, he's talking Current

[sturdy flume]

does that affect it? I just wanted to know how much im getting from all my rigs so i can try a different setup

[novel sun]

whats your regional development? max ferrium yield is 1080

[sturdy flume]

11

[zenith seal]

Maybe missing a few nodes, you also get some boost up till lvl 11 regional development

[gentle seal]

You missed a mineral bed then

[novel sun]

yeah at 12 it goes to 1080

[torn sedge]

Its a Factory efficiency problem if you're talking current

[solid imp]

18/m HC batteries requires literally all of the originium in Valley IV (except for an extra 20/m which isn't enough for even one extra unloader)

[zenith seal]

Nope 11 is max for boost

12 is meta transfer

[torn sedge]

if you're talking Theoretical, then get to 100% tapping

[solid imp]

if you're making literally anything else with originium you'll run behind a bit on battery production

[autumn maple]

oh nvm. rechecked your image. your yield are low because your storage already full

[novel sun]

whatas the max originium per minute yield?

[sturdy flume]

oh LMAO

ty

[gentle seal]

560

[torn sedge]

The numbers are 560 240 1080 for V4

[novel sun]

i only have 3 hc battery production lines and i have 560

so why in tarnation am i running a 720 originium

lemme check everything else holup

[solid imp]

560
a belt can move 30/m so that's 18 (and 2/3rds) belts of originum
one packaging unit making 6/m HC batteries needs 6 belts of originium ore (180/m) as raw input resources (and a bit of ferrum)

oh i replied to the wrong person meant to reply to @novel sun

[novel sun]

OH I FOUND THE CULPRIT. oops building caps kek. i had an sc battery line still runing in science park

[zenith seal]

Isn't that theoretical data?

It doesn't take into account production time nor clogging

...or a wild production facility that's unaccounted too lmao

[novel sun]

now its good

it was the sc battery line

[ancient zinc]

Magic

[vital kraken]

does this seem ok?

[rain schooner]

i realized how....you just have a large stock of mats

itll go down

[autumn maple]

generic

im talking bout positioning

not the product efficiency

[vital kraken]

ah

[vital kraken]

i had to make some space

[autumn maple]

understandable

[vital kraken]

And while it may not be in the best way

as long as i can get the stuff that i need it shouldnt matter

[autumn maple]

when you are enjoy on building gaming, there's no need to rush. just enjoy it

[ancient zinc]

Xira thingy? I had a lot

[vital kraken]

I use a site that gives me the blueprints to make it easier

but i do change stuff time to time

[rain schooner]

yeh

[vital kraken]

the site is helpful

[autumn maple]

can always improve when you know the basic

[red gust]

THE FACTORY CANT GROW ANYMORE

[autumn maple]

[ancient zinc]

I had a lot aka about to hit limit stacks..

So instead of sitting doing nothing why use those then remake them again

[vital kraken]

because thing is, before that not only i had such a horrible aic factory, i barely knew what i was doing, it shows me ways to improve and also gives good blueprints

the factory section is fun, but can be very hard to understand for a lot of people lol

and it is a VERY important thing that you need to do in the game

[ancient zinc]

Copy peoples BP understand how it works then u reverse engineer it on ur specifications

[uncut rock]

Concerning sandleaf it's worth it to always turn it into power right?

[vital kraken]

i do that but at the same time i kinda feel shame for not doing stuff on my own

like i feel that im "Unoriginal" for using other's work

[ancient zinc]

Nothing to be ashamed of..it’s a part of learning

[vital kraken]

i guess so

[autumn maple]

wise words : no one bother to look at your own creation

My own take :i did myself in the end because i like it anyway

[runic epoch]

At some point
everyone's design will look roughly similar due to how ratios work

[vital kraken]

hmm i see

[tough scarab]

the only real difference is how spaghetti it becomes

[autumn maple]

nothing wrong with doing on your own or coping the blueprint

last week, i have full time to do here and there on my own, so yeah

[vital kraken]

by the way, how do you feel about the story combat? i for the most part find it hard

[autumn maple]

you maen, battle/enemy difficulty or what

[vital kraken]

yes

[runic epoch]

It's pretty easy
Chen and Endmin should last you well into the end

[autumn maple]

it's average of gacha / souls like gameplay

[vital kraken]

im using a laev team

[tough scarab]

much easier if you have a sustain

[autumn maple]

expedition 33 dodge/parry frame are 50x brutal than this game

[vital kraken]

this boss here gave me hell

[lofty hedge]

Better operator than these 2 for stock bill trading and generation?

[vital kraken]

all though not everyone in my party was level 60

at the time

only laev i believe

[autumn maple]

once you can dodge properly , everything should be possible

dont need to keep attacking unless you already learn all enemy attack pattern

[runic epoch]

What's your team comp?
Laev is absolutely able to melt that boss super fast

[vital kraken]

ok so, i was able to do a lot of damage, ill send a clip

[zenith seal]

They nerfed lvl 1 to 50 enemies and also some of their movesets recently

[autumn maple]

which area ?

[lofty hedge]

Literally in the img but originium science park and power plateau

[runic epoch]

Infra - Yvonne
Reconstruction is Gilberta If I recall

[vital kraken]

https://medal.tv/games/arknights-endfield/clips/m3nnkweXlZLSq9dZp?invite=cr-MSxkcWosMjY2Nzg1MzM2&v=30

[autumn maple]

ah, i dont remember the outpost name properly, only region

[lofty hedge]

2 operators i dont have gg

[empty furnace]

well, each outpost can only have 3 total things and for recon HQ 1 is for generating more daily stock bills and 2 are for making more when you sel. pogra hits the 2 for selling and perlica hits the 1 for generating so i swap to pog when i sell than swap immediately back to perlica for generating more

[lofty hedge]

i need pog too 🥺

eh

[empty furnace]

as for infra-station idk if theres better than chen

[autumn maple]

i also dont have those 2

[runic epoch]

You look like you're having an easy time

[autumn maple]

i used this on plataeu

[vital kraken]

nah i was stuck on that boss for 2 hours

lol

that was the winning run

[runic epoch]

Til people don't beat bosses in 1 run

[zenith seal]

She hits pretty hard so I can imagine people dying especially if they didn't bother to craft gear

[empty furnace]

i dont get how this happens to people. just grab the cable before placing the next relay tower then place the relay tower in the optimal spot

[strange garnet]

does anyone have a valley stock bill blueprint i can use

[zenith seal]

They want to hit exactly 80/80 but can't place it at the sweet spot so they run into that problem.

[novel sun]

whats good to make with the leftover amethyst after 18 buck cap a and 18 hc battery? and with the 20 originium?

[runic epoch]

Citrome or buck c

[empty furnace]

people do 4 buck/citrome c

[novel sun]

4 as in?

[empty furnace]

4 as in 4 of them

[novel sun]

ah like 4 lines not 4/min

[empty furnace]

oh, sorry ya

lol

[novel sun]

how much output per min is that?

[empty furnace]

its like 24/min

[novel sun]

cool ty

[vital kraken]

how should i run my wuling aic?

it will take me a bit to progress there but

i dont wanna make mistakes

[runic epoch]

1 or 2 battery lines
one jincao line
And one component line

[empty furnace]

cant tell you how, but ill tell you what my gameplan is. i made a syringe maker and a battery maker and a gear component maker. soon as yazhen drinks got to 48k, i swapped it to jincao drinks. i sell my extra batteries to meet the daily refill and will eventually swap to double batteries when jincao hit 48k

[vital kraken]

i see

[novel sun]

also how to people run 12/min wuling batteries? do you just stock up on xiranite components and shut down the line after and switch to another battery?

[empty furnace]

thats my plan ya

[novel sun]

ye same. i do 1 yazhen syringe 1 battery and 1 gearing componet

rn i have like 25k components

dk if i rly need more for now

[empty furnace]

im halfway there almost

[novel sun]

but at this point i see no need to switch cuz i still sell faster than the outpost can stock up

[empty furnace]

true

im trying to keep the outpost at like just under cap too

so when they eventually drop new prosperity levels, i empty them out and level them up

[torn barn]

has anyone done something like this before? lol

automatically shuts off syringe production when battery reserves gets low

[solid imp]

seems complicated lol

why would you need to turn off syringes when batteries are low though?

[torn barn]

bc there's not enough iron income to properly support a full line of syringe & batteries each

[solid imp]

oh are those HC batteries?

[torn barn]

yeha

[solid imp]

why not just make xiranite batteries

[torn barn]

im selling those

[solid imp]

but you can also sell the syringes

[torn barn]

i can sell both at the same time for more

[solid imp]

i mean tbh just making xiranite batteries and syringes i bankrupt the stockade anyway even using the xiranite batteries for power

our Glorious Chief Tangtang is not exactly rolling in the dough

[empty furnace]

take that back, tangtang is rich in spirit

[solid imp]

the main reason i can see to use HC batteries is to save xiranite for making more components instead but honestly I'm usually bottlenecked by wuling-bucks

[torn barn]

i gues.s,,,,

[solid imp]

tangtang is very rich in many ways that matter but i can't pay for artificing with best waifu energy

[empty furnace]

who needs artificing

just wait to do speedruns waaaay later lol

[solid imp]

well i'm not speedrunning yeeeeeet but honestly even equipping my main team with gold gear is eating all my wuling bucks

[warm quartz]

i made my first batteries!! yay

[empty furnace]

ah, fair. my wuling bucks are pretty stagnant

[solid imp]

36k per operator and i haven't even maxed out the recycling stations yet

[warm quartz]

first batteries,,

[solid imp]

though i only got to wuling two days ago so i haven't had a chance to stockpile

[solid imp]

and it looks like they're even to ratio! congrats!

[warm quartz]

ok i need one more shredder for ratio im overloading on ferrium parts

[solid imp]

[warm quartz]

or maybe thats because i had too little originium coming in

oh right SC battery is 15 powder 10 ferrium

[solid imp]

wasn't it 2 belts ori powder and 2 belts ferrum parts for MC batteries

[warm quartz]

i edit

[solid imp]

oh

ok nevermind i forgot the early game ratios lol

[solid imp]

yeah batteries devour a lot of originium

the one i do remember is HC batteries eating 6 belts of originium to make the 3 belts of cubes

along with the 2 belts of steel parts which IIRC was 4 belts of ferrum ore

[tribal oak]

NOW THIS IS BUSINESS

[solid imp]

i wanna know who's buying knucklebones

like, at all

[willow beacon]

yo i'm kinda stupid i forgot how to access metastorage transfer menu

any knowers

[solid imp]

i think it's somewhere in the PAC menu protocol management thing

[tribal oak]

one of my friends is

[solid imp]

so go teleport to your aic in v4

[tribal oak]

also linux fps be good

[warm quartz]

now that i have at least some battery power, tomorrow i will go set up miners on every vein

for infinite resource 🙂‍↕️

[solid imp]

how can you play on linux but not play as pengmin

🐧

[tribal oak]

dw-proton

[solid imp]

at least there's the magic rock of Trans Your Gender on the ship

[warm quartz]

i hope they add nickname change as well soon

i rerolled and didnt know so now i have a random name,,

[vestal spindle]

I got this blueprint from kysotin what does this actually does? Why need two of protocol depot?

[rain schooner]

bruh got kicked from the game lol

is there main?

[vestal spindle]

Ye 10 min

You knew the answer to my question?

[rain schooner]

really i was able to log back in lol

[tough scarab]

Could be emergency stash in case power grid goes down?

[vestal spindle]

I watch the video

[tough scarab]

If you take from depot batteries could run out eventually

[vestal spindle]

Understand nothing

I heard you could delay the belt speed

But idk what is storage protocol bfor

[tough scarab]

The true pvp mode, yes

[bleak frigate]

And how they appear? I mean asking about the deliveries, can I place something to deliver or how It works tho

[tough scarab]

Real metaslaves start deliveries as soon as daily refresh happens, that’s when you find the most wuling deliveries

[tough scarab]

You accept a quest, then pick it up from a certain location and bring it to a different one, same as valley 4 deliveries

[jovial harbor]

You can find a bunch just after the reset
But later on it becomes scarce

[bleak frigate]

No but I mean asking in general about deliveries

Like that list of refresh in what is based? I dont know if I can order too

And thanks for the information 👌

[jovial harbor]

Did we get the selector yet on asia?

[tough scarab]

Oh you can pass off delivery quests that you start from your own depots, that is what shows up for other people

You do this by creating the package, starting the delivery, then open quest menu and press “transfer”

You don’t really order them you just give the work to someone else

[vestal moat]

what pvp just use zipline

[tough scarab]

Even the ziplines are pvp

[vestal moat]

sounds like a you issue ngl

[tough scarab]

Chances are that your ziplines get interrupted by someone else’s tower

[vestal moat]

sound like a you issue lol never experience that in my world

[tough scarab]

Sounds like you don’t do enough deliveries to know what I’m talking about

[torn sedge]

Hmn

I think I have an idea on how to set up power lines and ziplines in Wuling, but it is getting a bit bothersome to think on some angles. Anyone got a map to follow on it?

[severe swift]

I need help. idk what is happening, but my xiranite refuses to go back to 60.

[mortal plume]

where can I see the maximum amount of buildings allowed in wuling? im trying to build my base but it says I have reached maximum amount. And how do I increase the limit

[severe swift]

U CANT increase the limit. u will need to take down pylons and ziplines and weapon towers

[mortal plume]

aw hell no

do you know where I can see the maximum amount? cant find it anywhere

[tough scarab]

If I were to guess you’re probably not feeding enough carbon into your production line, check your inputs

[severe swift]

i didnt change anything since last login,. im using the Wuling current end game build. it was working fine the past ferw days. im confused

[tough scarab]

Are you trying to place a blueprint? If you’re placing ones with forge of the skies you need to delete any old ones first

[torn sedge]

? Isn't it standard to delete everything first before placing down a BP?

[tough scarab]

Is your xiranite clogging in a separate line somewhere?

[torn sedge]

"start on a new page" and such a thing

[torn sedge]

Hmn. I'll need to figure out something

[severe swift]

it is, in the backup packaging for adventure.

[mortal plume]

yeah I am. you mean I need to delete the forges or blueprints?

[severe swift]

the foirges u already have down, if u do have

[solid imp]

you can only place a maximum of 1 forge, or 2 with the AIC plan upgrade thing

[tough scarab]

Delete all old forges before placing new blueprints down

[solid imp]

this isn't per AIC, this is in total, so you can't place 2 in wuling city and 2 in the stockade

you only get 2 max

[tough scarab]

Looks like your sandleaves aren’t keeping up, I see gaps on the belts

[severe swift]

OH WTTHHHHHH

i just noticed that too

WTH

[tough scarab]

More farms

[severe swift]

yea, easy fix. ty

[mortal plume]

I have only 1 forge down and trying to place another so idk where the problem is, I have the upgrade too

[charred fiber]

does anyone have any good factory buildprints for stock buy out at semi early game?

[solid imp]

does it let you place another forge without the blueprint

[severe swift]

ty/ i really dont know how this happened lmao

[inner imp]

Guys. I've got a maxed out Wulin base and I'm searching for the most efficient layout.
could anyone help me find one

[solid imp]

why? just for fun?

[mortal plume]

ya it does

[tough scarab]

Instead of sandleaves you can also try farming the wuling plants, those burn for 2 carbon each and saves space over sandleaves

[severe swift]

search Wualing Current End Game Build

[solid imp]

even with indefensible levels of spaghetti you can easily max out wuling in just the main AIC area with like one upgrade to size and depot bus

[slate minnow]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467732455585747025 mine is this

[torn sedge]

I prefer 2 Depot Bus upgrades

[tough scarab]

Seems like your blueprint actually has 2 forges, so try deleting the first one

[mortal plume]

no it only has 1 forge 😭

[tough scarab]

There should be no reason you can’t place the blueprint then, do you have screenshots of the issue?

[mortal plume]

basically im trying to build this base

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNG4JgKfDQX7k--FshCMqe8ZT0_24M0pUPged_CyQ52k_7iu6OI0hyMLNoKfFCRUg/photo/AF1QipPqa9lFBkaxuRMgrpx99Wfy6e8g5iBXs60tdkUi?key=aDQzazlIZmhLM19EYm81VXdzcnQ0N0o4czFUZHln

and I cant place the bottom part

its a seperate blueprint, when I try it tells me I have reached maximum amount of buildings

[solid imp]

do you already have a depot bus starter thing placed somewhere else

cuz you can only have one of the depot bus starter things

[tough scarab]

Is it the depot bus?

[mortal plume]

ohhh yeah I do

wait lemme try and fix it

[solid imp]

there's yer problem

[trail vine]

question
what's considered to be the most efficient thing you can be doing in Valley 4, in terms of production results?

[mortal plume]

thank you guys it worked!

[lost marsh]

Do y’all make sections dedicated to producing the products used to make stuff like batteries or go with the direct approach by manufacturing the batteries in one large assembly line

[tough scarab]

18 HC batteries, 18 Buck A, 24 citrome/buck C per minute

[solid imp]

18 HC batteries per minute and 18 Buck As (or Citrome As) per minute
you can also do 24 buck/citrome Cs to use up the amethyst but even with just the batteries and buck/citrome Cs you'll be bankrupting all 3 outposts easliy

[tough scarab]

One large assembly line is usually better for space reasons

[solid imp]

depot unloader space is limited so it's more efficient to go straight from raw ore to finished product

[loud scroll]

Does anyone mind verifying everything looks good I custom made my base and I feel like I'm getting good outputs? Have all the mining nodes and regions maxed so let me know if this seems right?

[solid imp]

seems fine

[tough scarab]

Ferrium use is concerning

[solid imp]

there's no getting around it for wuling

[tough scarab]

You’re also burning more HC batts than needed in valley 4, what are you using all that power for?

[solid imp]

there's literally only 90/m you can mine but just a single packaging unit making jincao/yazhen C needs 120/m
but you can make up most of the difference with metastorage transfer for an additional 25/m ferrium
you'll still be short 5/m ferrum but them's the breaks

[bleak frigate]

Ok thanks for the information thats cool

Is there an advantage of pass It off? Besides not doing the delivery, do you get something?

If yes, thats cool but, there should then be a bonus for the one doing It?

[solid imp]

i mean technically for jincao/yahzen C you can use amethyst except there's literally 0 amethyst in wuling so lmao

[torn sedge]

I mean, on V4, you'd want to be setting up ziplines and tower placements for your Essence farming

[tough scarab]

The benefit you get for passing it off is less work, that’s kinda it

Sharing stock tickets is caring though so you should pass them off anyways

[torn sedge]

you have tons of essence spots to cover for each area and you'd want to saturate the place so it'll be easier to do

[solid imp]

you still get paid the full amount (unless the other person fucks up) and they also get the money too

[torn sedge]

so having V4 have higher than normal energy consumption isn't a far away thing

I mean, some folks don't really care and just wants that Vbucks, even if reduced

I've gotten deliveries like that before

[solid imp]

V4 having hgher power cost isn't a big deal either since even if you're using most of the batteries you make, with an 18/m buck A/HC battery build you'll still bankrupt all the outposts anyway

[tough scarab]

Even with higher power consumption I think 9 batteries per min is too much to burn, surely 7.5 is enough which is like 5.7k power

[solid imp]

unless you're literally eating all the batteries

but i don't think it's even possible to have enough power draw to warrant 18/m HC batteries into thermal banks before running into the facility limits

[torn sedge]

shrug I'm at 5.75K at V4 and I still hadn't saturated my essence spots

but I did set up my ziplines for rare mats

[magic stratus]

It's factory power and I don't have a battery...

[tough scarab]

I’ve got ziplines for nearly everything and turrets for essence farming too, and I’m sitting at around 5.2k power use if they’re all turned on (I usually turn off turrets when not using them)

[torn sedge]

could that be made more efficient by doing a complete re-design using zip towers? sure. But it works nice enough

then I don't know what to tell you shrug

I can only go by my own experience

[solid imp]

the point is that a maxed V4 base makes more than enough materials to bankrupt the outposts even if you're wasting some extra batteries

so like who cares

[torn sedge]

True enough. I'm just curious honestly

[crude hill]

How do you check your facility limit for an area? I'm trying to build in the Jiyung outpost but it keeps saying I'm maxed

[solid imp]

it should be at the bottom of the map screen, but also what are you trying to place

if it's a forge of the sky keep in mind those are limited to 2 in total (1 without the AIC upgrade plan)

[crude hill]

A blueprint. I'm following this guy's setup but I can't place the outpost on for Jiyung valley.
https://youtu.be/VXw3kumFRu8?si=ZUajo18C1d6MPJBx

[solid imp]

do you already have stuff placed in the AIC area for jiyung valley, like a depot bus

[crude hill]

No but I have wuling setup

[solid imp]

well make sure the blueprint you're trying to paste doesn't include a Forge of the Sky

[crude hill]

I'm pretty sure it doesn't. It's a blueprint to make the gear components

[solid imp]

which does need xiranite

i'm not watching the video but just make sure it's not "make the components and the xiranite for the components from scratch" kinda build

cuz then it'll include a forge, which is limited

[crude hill]

Ah ok I'll check the blueprint to make sure no sky forge is there

[crude hill]

Ah looking at the blueprint I need the depo bus unlocked for the area

[unkempt pasture]

put the xiranite into more batteries instead of components which you already have enough of and use the amethyst in valley 4 to make four cit can [c] lines which you can sell in all outposts

[vapid granite]

Yeah at this stage, you will have to do a lot of micro managing and whats important

[solid imp]

i just don't micromanage

i use half my xiranite for batteries and half for components and don't think about it

tangtang's too poor to even afford all the batteries and yazhen syringes anyway lol

[vapid granite]

Like how i sacrifice wasting one battery and the other xirirnite for making more relay towers- then when i felt good i made them both for batteries

[ancient zinc]

Yummers

[crimson inlet]

On my way to reset my base for the 100th time

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-zoolander-movie-movie-zoolander-ben-stiller-benstiller-gif-12169139201078736959

https://tenor.com/view/zoolander-zoolander-movie-movie-zoolander-ben-stiller-benstiller-gif-12169139201078736959

[solid imp]

simply build the base properly the first time

[ancient zinc]

Temp to fit all units in 1 base?

[crimson inlet]

I'm too dumb to arrange them without ruining the look

[runic epoch]

I mean
Is it 18/18

[crimson inlet]

its 24/min

[subtle berry]

what do we think of the xiranite factory

[crimson inlet]

I don't sell these

[runic epoch]

Ah I see

[subtle berry]

-# (i pray i've set it up right and haven't even tested it yet)

[drifting tide]

I read for valley 4, I can have 3 hc valley battery farm, 3 buck capsule a farm, if im regional level 12 and all factory plots expanded

[runic epoch]

Yes

[drifting tide]

Is it true? I havent checked my factory cos it take much time

[bleak frigate]

Man how good now I dont do Valley ones hahahahah

Thanks for the information 👌

[runic epoch]

The standard is 18/18
You could probably fit in 24 as well of Citrome or buck c

[solid imp]

i wince in pain everytime someone calls their factory a 'farm' (exception for literal farms like the planting units)

[subtle berry]

wait I just realised. the medicine produces two carbon with ONE refinery so I don't even need two.

[solid imp]

this ain't minecraft you're not 'farming', you're automating it's a factory

[subtle berry]

uuGH

[drifting tide]

I think the last time I checked is when im regional 10, im still making sc valley batteries

Maybe i should upgrade the setup?

[runic epoch]

Go into 11 and you should be able to make 18/18

[crimson inlet]

I call mine either setups or line

[drifting tide]

Im 12 now

[runic epoch]

Ah
Then it's definitely possible if you have mines In all nodes

[solid imp]

setups, lines, builds, factories, modules, etc. are all valid

'farm' is wrong and invalid and i will cry

[crimson inlet]

Imagine a skin for the MCs wearing this fit

[solid imp]

'blocks' also works 'city blocks' if we had trains and you play factorio but not really relevant here

[drifting tide]

Worth doing it? I think i make quite a lot already even with 2 buck capsule a farms

[solid imp]

let me put the entire crew in UWST jumpsuits lol

get in the OSHA-compliant jumpsuit laevatain

perlica cover those shoulders

[crimson inlet]

trains are awesome unless you have to arrange the schedules

[runic epoch]

If you make more than you can sell than it's fine

[frosty tiger]

Honestly, I wish there’s more stuff to produce in factory….

[solid imp]

wulfgard cover those pecs, you're distracting all the factory workers
mostly me

[drifting tide]

Not sure havent checked but not enough to deplete all the stock bills, enough to make all 3 posts go into red though

[crimson inlet]

Make them all OSHA complaint with an asian vibe

[runic epoch]

Time to redo the cycle of 16M again

I got the bike

[subtle berry]

Osha compliancy won't get me maximum resources

[drifting tide]

Ill look into it when back from school today

[solid imp]

very sad you can't ride the bike

[drifting tide]

I saw a new video it looked simpler than the rest

[solid imp]

there ain't no osha on Talos-II but i can't have laevatain getting oripathy

if laeva dies from oripathy and her consciousness starts floating around the originium digital consciousness she'll start beefing with surtr in there and everything will explode probably

[drifting tide]

He put his 3 hc battery farms into main aic

And then 1 buck capsule a per sub aic

Seems simple

So I wanted to try

[torn sedge]

Sounds like something Renegade would do

[drifting tide]

Iwintolose

Thats his name

[torn sedge]

well, iirc, Renegade did do something similar lol

I think I used that guy's essence farming strat

[crimson inlet]

or, have them all wear a Gansey

[cosmic folio]

I unlocked wuling recently not build anything what I should make so I can get good gear and also can sit on wuling stock bills?

[solid imp]

you don't really have a lot of options lmao

[drifting tide]

https://youtu.be/bpJIGWYdrTM?si=Lf5M6DlRQI10Ba1o

[drifting tide]

This one

[cosmic folio]

I want to get stock bills fast enough so atleast I can max everything and then progress currently I barely have any stock bills

[solid imp]

one packaging unit for xiranite batteries eats half your xiranite, one packaging unit for yazhen [c] eats all the ferrum and that's including if you metatransfer 25/m more ferrum from v4, and then that only leaves you with enough xiranite to fill half of a packaging unit for xiranite comopnents

[torn sedge]

Oh, I already have my own all set up

Just when I heard the set up described

[solid imp]

i mean the single xiranite packaging unit will basically bankrupt the stockade so

[cosmic folio]

So what I should make and how many

[solid imp]

you should make what i said

[torn sedge]

it just pinged my memory bus that it seemed like one that Renegade did

[solid imp]

[drifting tide]

Tldr valley 4 is 3 hc valley battery into main aic, 1 buck capsule a per side aic

[cosmic folio]

Battery 2 unit right?

[drifting tide]

Thats about it

[solid imp]

one packaging unit for xiranite batteries, one for yahzen [c] and half a packaging unit for xiranite components is the simplest answer

[digital bear]

do i really need component automation?

[vapid granite]

Guys.... . . . ..I did it

I made a Buck Cap A farm

[digital bear]

or can i just make it semi-auto and have it like

[vapid granite]

A compact looking one too

[torn sedge]

Yup. sounds about the same

[digital bear]

manually kickstart

?

[cosmic folio]

Thanks this is what I want to know ,now I just need to find the blueprint for this

[solid imp]

for xiranite components yes, for the others not really but it'll make progression until then easier

[torn sedge]

I mean, currently, the Xiranite Component is the gateway to getting endgame gear

but if you don't want that, I guess you can drop it from Wuling

[digital bear]

Yeah but the problem is i dont ahve enough originium to produce the xiranite components

so i'm thinking of producing all my orignium in like

valley 4 and just manually shipping it?

[solid imp]

[cosmic folio]

Btw wuling and valley 4 extra materials will be shared?

[torn sedge]

Not so automation of you, friend