aic-factory

[prisma granite]

and like 1/3 of ur length

[rough stream]

It definitely isnt lol

[prisma granite]

I just throw the plant production in the corner

?

only 6 wider

significantly shorter

[tired parcel]

The only thing it takes more is depot unloader tho

[prisma granite]

ye

[tired parcel]

Space wise, its hella compact

Bluetooth ftw

[prisma granite]

[fast solstice]

anyone knows what to generate in the factory for early-mid game for valley stock bills? (I'm confused on either buck capsule B or Ferrium parts)

[prisma granite]

buck b

[tired parcel]

Buck B

[fast solstice]

Alr thx

[tired parcel]

Things to sell are the ones that aren't needed for any other products..

[prisma granite]

meds/bats usually

[tired parcel]

My phone is radiating heat
i like it

[prisma granite]

free heater

[fallen gorge]

Doing deliveries in this game is lite 🚚

[prisma granite]

electric hand warmer

[tired parcel]

The phone itself isn't too hot... Just the cooler is eating the heat

[velvet dust]

not sure where to aks... but do pipes have throughput limits? can i have 4 fluid pumps on 1 pipe and 4 outputs from that single pipe? or do i need 4 individual pipes?

[fallen gorge]

special phone case ftw

[tired parcel]

Might as well use it to boil water... EASY ELECTRIC GENERATOR

Factory runs green energy now

[prisma granite]

factory in game powers irl processes

[hybrid pivot]

Hi there, I just started going through wuling and i kind of got overwhelmed with the AIC. No resources, low power etc. What do I build first? do i have to travel back and forth from valley 4 > wuling just to carry resources ? so far all ive done is drop some mining gears on some ore nodes

[runic epoch]

Prioritise batteries

[prisma granite]

backpack ur batteries from valley iv and rush bats

[runic epoch]

Kickstart the aic with some HCs

[tired parcel]

If u have a problem with starting up, u can try importing mats from V4 to wuling manually

Yep kickstart with HC

[fallen gorge]

You can transfer mats from valley base however, it'll take an hour

[velvet dust]

bring batteries over in char inventory to power some thermal banks. get a skyforge setup running to produce xiranite, and then work towards LC wuling batteries just 1 batery and bank will get you covered for a while as you work on expanding.

[prisma granite]

it's way faster if u do it on the dijiang

[hybrid pivot]

ohhh okay, I got overwhelmed for some reason in wuling AIC.. thanks everyone 🙂

[prisma granite]

[fallen gorge]

yep free farm by the weekend

[slim moat]

has anyone tried to bring a pipe to the 40000 fluid sinkhole and filling it with xianrite

[prisma granite]

idk why we would need this much

[velvet dust]

wheres that "but why" meme when you need it

[strong minnow]

my yvonnes hair started glowing once i got her to p5 lol

[civic bone]

how can we transfer it? by bottles?

[tired parcel]

Speaking of manual transfer , my external storage manages to hold mats for overnight production xD

[slim moat]

I guess you could but couldn't you also just pipe it over from the factory

[thorn garnet]

hoarder AND a filithy ship inventory micro!

lol

[civic bone]

omg u right

i will do that

[runic epoch]

Holy
Is this sky king

[brazen tinsel]

I started wuling myself yesterday and what I did is I insta researched second forge of skies, maxed out production of xiranite and went for lc xiranite bats + yazhen syringes, I plan to earn stocks on syringes now to expand main aic and then switch to full scale battery prod
the way I dealt with power issue is that I carried like 500 bats in backpack from valley iv and just plugged em into thermals somewhere in wuling so I have a temporary solution, imo an hour for transfer is too long

[tired parcel]

Main core XD

[fallen gorge]

In theory everyone has a nice setup

[ornate scaffold]

ferrium components are only something i need to produce once and stockpile right?

i dont need to constantly make them?

[prisma granite]

[slim moat]

you wanna get the stockaide outpost set up quickly so you have easy access to orignium ore for temporary power

[dull bone]

sme for any tier component, those are usually use for gear

[prisma granite]

I'm so proud of ur external storage

[tired parcel]

Extra 21.6k storage for ferrium part

[empty furnace]

tons of people have posted pics in here of them having done that lol

[tired parcel]

HEHEHA

[prisma granite]

beautiful

[dull bone]

i should try it filling it with xianrite...

does it look dope?

[solid arrow]

guys in which part of wuling do i unlock the AIC?

[prisma granite]

all used

[empty furnace]

it looks like a corporate factory dumped their toxic waste in a neighborhoods pond

[prisma granite]

just progress the story u can't miss it

[dull bone]

i need to see screenshot before i decided xD

[empty furnace]

and essentially that is what youd be doing

[solid arrow]

???

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[dull bone]

they saying continue main story, you will eventually unlock it

[solid arrow]

ohhh really?

thanks very helpful

[dull bone]

yeah, you will be force to make AIC lol

[prisma granite]

I mean what were u expecting lol

[dull bone]

how far are you in tho?

[prisma granite]

what am I supposed to say

[solid arrow]

useful answer maybe

[dull bone]

something like spoiler?

lol

[solid arrow]

just met Zhuang Fangyi

[dull bone]

then you are almost there lol

[prisma granite]

ur like 2 steps off

[solid arrow]

thats better

[late zodiac]

You just gotta do the whole date sequence

[solid arrow]

not so hard see

[dull bone]

forget about factory for temporary, admire fangyi for couple min then ditch her for rest of time, you must let factory to grow 👀

[solid arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[prisma granite]

nah bro it's a preview for when I get her from banner

I must get leek dragon woman

[dull bone]

same lol

[rough stream]

fangyi pulling u on a date when her city will be destroyed in under 3 months is crazy

[dull bone]

that was very sneaky move of her indeed xD

but hey i will get that date, it worth it

[prisma granite]

gotta see it before it goes yk

[dull bone]

i dont like the fact unloader is 1x3, 😭

[torpid sandal]

Is there a better path way than this? For Filling the deep lake with xiranite liquid

[dull bone]

? where is deep lake?

[prisma granite]

1x1 unloader when

[past hatch]

money well spent?

[dull bone]

next Region but wont be used for other region like freaking xranite relay power 😭

[modern sky]

How do i improve it. I made it myself for end game stock bills. The only problem I found is that steel bottles don't go as fast as the other material for batteries

[torpid sandal]

This area (ig this is not a lake lmao srry)

[empty furnace]

bottles need 2 lines of steel for 100% uptime

[dull bone]

dont recongized place, where is that in map

[dull bone]

consider the ratio, battery take 2:3 (steel:ori) i believe

[modern sky]

So one more bottle produce linę?

[empty furnace]

ya

[modern sky]

Thats the problem i noticed

[past hatch]

near depot node. grandpa treasure quest.

[prisma granite]

2 steel for bottle production

fixes problem

[modern sky]

Its like 15 bottles and 10 of those cubes so i infact need one more bottle line

[empty furnace]

i didnt even notice their batteries haha, but ya you need to fix that ratio too

[dull bone]

ah i see, i cant enter there but i see, well closet would be sub-aic which is in Jingyu valley

how much does bottle consume? 10L?

[modern sky]

Will do but i need sleep after a 7 hour marathon

[dull bone]

sleep is for weak, factoy must grow

[low obsidian]

Hard choice for a motorcycle or money

[modern sky]

Its growing

Always will

[past hatch]

i bought the drill

[civic bone]

alrightyy tysm

[low obsidian]

[dull bone]

do remember, they have limit distance pump

[runic epoch]

8 mil more to the bike

[past hatch]

DRILL

[unreal laurel]

dang

[storm junco]

Is there a way to increase purity of your ore?

[spice summit]

are they are way to get basic AIC data logger i have gotten every single dataloger in the map in the quarry the hub the refugee area and then orignium scinence i now need some 9

[spice summit]

the purity of the ore only dictates speed i think

and no

[runic epoch]

They should be on the map

[spice summit]

ik but i got everything

[runic epoch]

What are you lacking?

[past hatch]

it increases as you progress through the game

[spice summit]

ohh really did not know thta

that

[spice summit]

AIC data loggers

seems like i claimed everything

i can see on the map

4/4 11/11

[hidden temple]

they improve with rdl

[storm junco]

Rdl?

[runic epoch]

So what are you exactly missing? That you need more

[hidden temple]

region dev lvl

[past hatch]

some nodes will increase in purity at the same time that some nodes become minable

[spice summit]

BASIC AIC index i claimed everything i can see on the map

[storm junco]

Owh

[runic epoch]

Yea... So why do you need more? You should have everything unlocked if you've collected everything

[storm junco]

Now can someone tell me how to get more Sundering steel

[spice summit]

i claimed everything on the valley pass , the hub ,the aburry quarry, and originium science and everything isnt unlocked yet

let me send ss

[past hatch]

buy it from arsenal exchange when they randomly rotate in

[hidden temple]

i wonder what's behind that fog

[spice summit]

is it still orignium science park or

bcuz it shows on the map that

everything is claimed

[tired parcel]

Rich

[runic epoch]

I know for a fact there's a one floppy fella at that foggy area

[tired parcel]

She shivers a lot

[past hatch]

now broke

[spice summit]

ok ill try getting there i was thinking that theres none cuz

the maps says soo lmao

[storm junco]

Torret syndrome?

[hidden temple]

yeah that's making me second guess

[obsidian osprey]

does anyone know the amount of buckflower facilities you need to produce enough carbon for both sky of the forges?

[thorn garnet]

wrong plant to use

[past hatch]

use the 2 wuling's plant instead

[storm junco]

What the use of fire buckle

[dull bone]

she holding herself in obviously, from meeting endmin that she always wait for

[hidden temple]

4 buckflower setups, or just 2 yahzen/jincao setups

[past hatch]

better meds. but fluffy jincao is better

[marble yarrow]

[brisk wasp]

need thoughts, which one is better, first photo is a 2x output stabilized carbon line that's 17x30
second photo is 4x output of same product but 24x44

[obsidian osprey]

the face i made when i realized you could use this

[storm junco]

Can you copy it thru seedinator?

[past hatch]

nope. you can only collect from openworld or cultivates them using their relative seeds

[dull bone]

xD

[obsidian osprey]

wait can someone send the recipe for fluffy jincao= carbon? i can't seem to find it

[past hatch]

i love details like this

[dull bone]

you just have to send jincao in in order to unlock it

[past hatch]

no. fluffy can't be used in machines. fluffy only can be crafted to meds manually.
you use normal jincao for that

[obsidian osprey]

it doesnt use water? i thought it would since its a wuling plant

makes that a lot easier

[runic epoch]

It does

[past hatch]

it does use water

[dull bone]

it use water

[past hatch]

it water

[dull bone]

it not that bad lol

[runic epoch]

The trade off is it gives 2 carbon

[marble yarrow]

saves a lot of space for carbon

[obsidian osprey]

wait how do i even get water in the sky king flats pac?

[past hatch]

yeah, water pipe can even go above belts. not much problem

[sudden egret]

Wuling plants are super efficient for carbon recipes

[dull bone]

there is water lake

[runic epoch]

There's a water lake nearby

[obsidian osprey]

oh

i am so

blind

holy shit

[dull bone]

sky flat lol

[runic epoch]

Suspiciously large lake between skf and level up materials

[past hatch]

pro tip: use water tank as bridge if it said pipe is too long

[runic epoch]

I guess everyone uses sky king as a glorified farm

[obsidian osprey]

i like having my core aic as the pretty looking longer crafting chain area

and the only other sub pac is sky king

[split wind]

Why is miner transfer speed some off the wall rate of 6.67/minute.... that makes no sense... if everything is based on 30/minute transfer rates.... ??????

[past hatch]

doesn't look to bad tho

[young stag]

six…. point how many…….

idk much about mining transfer rate, is your depot clogged or something

[spice summit]

funny thing is i once used a shared zipline to get to a foged area that i feel like is like locked boom

i am in

lmao

[marble yarrow]

aight better

[crude nebula]

You can also use splitter or coverger thing

[lilac imp]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO011946I9e50U734O7. Copy it and use it in the game.

[past hatch]

with water tank, you get buffer when making changes

[loud willow]

My AIC just randomly ran out of power and it won’t produce more, can someone help me? It’s been running fine for like 3 days up until now

[brittle acorn]

what's the "right" production rate for the forge of the sky, i put two carbon and one water into it and the inputs still get clogged?

[runic epoch]

Can we see ore usage?

[young stag]

plug in batteries

[split wind]

No the beltlesstransfer from miners is 1 unit every 9 seconds ... it mines 1 unit every 3 seconds but only transfers 1 unit every 9 seconds... divide 60 seconds by 9 you get 6.67 rounded .

[past hatch]

battery production rate is not consistent or not enough for usage rate

[spice summit]

is the facilitie on the left batteries

[loud willow]

Yeah

[young stag]

battery prod line clogged

pray to god you still have batteries left in your depot

[spice summit]

try conncting them t oa MOREconsdiernt power

[crude nebula]

I flush em away because i have infinite water

[vapid granite]

So yall think i can make Buck Capsule A with that second half of space

[young stag]

rn you could turn everything off and jumpstart the battery production line

[spice summit]

use orignium orea like DIRETLY inject it and see if you can make it

[brittle acorn]

no

[loud willow]

Crap lemme see if that fixes it

[loud willow]

I’ve been working on that the past few days

[sudden egret]

If you condense your settup, easily

[vapid granite]

That empty lot is making my OCD itch

[young stag]

usually i do 2 part lines and 3 dust lines

[spice summit]

I HAD THE SAME ISSUE soo try making sure the belt is consitent as indeed batterys usually consume very slow compred to the speed of the belt soo its good idea to split the conveyor belt but try fixing that

[loud willow]

I unclogged it but there’s no power to make batteries

[spice summit]

manually claim some oreas and use that

[past hatch]

it's a good idea to stash some batt in a depot somewhere and set it to storage mode in case like this
i do it with xiranite too in case i need them to make something

[loud willow]

Yeah I split it, my issue is that my pylon has no power to power the battery machine

[spice summit]

she could use oress tho

[loud willow]

Ngl your right I sell my batteries often 😭

[hexed geyser]

how do i power the fluid pump everything needs xiranite to craft

[spice summit]

1 remove all plyons thats the easy way to disconect facilties

[willow beacon]

you can have multiple pumps

[loud willow]

OH WAIT

yeah I forgot I could use ores

[willow beacon]

oh you're asking about power

just use a pylon like in valley 4

[loud willow]

I don’t even know why my power just randomly ran out

[spice summit]

remove the pylons too! to disconnect then manufacutre some batteries then done\

[loud willow]

How would I power the machines without pylons?

[spice summit]

you should pay attention to above the % if its less than 100% your using your reserves

[hexed geyser]

the normal pylons don't have enough range and the xiranite pylons need xiranite to craft

[willow beacon]

the quest should give you 30 for free no?

[past hatch]

i mean after this. it couldn't hurt to have 300 batt as precaution

[willow beacon]

gives you 30 relays and 30 pylons

[spice summit]

just remove the pylons that dont power the ones that make your battery

[loud willow]

Oh that’s what the percent meant 😭

[spice summit]

then put it back

[loud willow]

Oh alr

I’ll try that

[spice summit]

sooo its easier

[hexed geyser]

uhhh maybe i misplaced them ill go check my valley storage

[spice summit]

i do that often

[hidden temple]

wait I don't think you need power to get a thermal bank running? just dump batteries in them and you'll go from 0 to 100%

[spice summit]

she has no batteries

[loud willow]

I don’t have any

[hidden temple]

oh

[loud willow]

[spice summit]

so what to do is disconnect all the machines that dont make the batteries then use ores to power make the battery put the pylons bak

[brittle acorn]

i just used batteries from valley iv to jumpstart my wuling battery production

[past hatch]

20x originiumore powerbank go brr

[hexed geyser]

oh yeah they were in my valley storage thanks

[willow beacon]

[runic epoch]

It's quite hard to tell but from what I can see your inputs are 1:1 into the packaging unit?

Maybe I'm wrong lmao

If that is the case
Perhaps that downtime is causing your issue
(Seeing how there's only one unit)

[hard panther]

what does maxed valley 4 regional development xp spread look like?

[runic epoch]

Xp spread?

[nova osprey]

kind of have to upgrade everything to reach max

[hard panther]

xp from drills/recyclers/stock exchange/storage depots etc.

[nova osprey]

except recyclers

[runic epoch]

Just upgrade everything you see you'll reach max eventually

[hard panther]

cant skip any outpost upgrades?

[nova osprey]

cant

[hard panther]

dang

cuz rn im gatekepy at infra-station

[nova osprey]

ah time gated?

[hard panther]

i kinda dont wanna strip my current setup down to make a setup dedicated to that zone

[hard panther]

pretty much

i have an endgame factory layout

[nova osprey]

i remember i pretty much only did ferrium parts at the start

[hard panther]

except im being gatekept by the awful trades in the infra station

[shrewd knoll]

you can still pull a wire from the AIC core like normal

[runic epoch]

Doesn't infra station accept buck a at lvl 2

[hard panther]

nope...only buck b

or lc/sc batteries and ferrium parts

[runic epoch]

Oh mb I think I misremembered with power plateau

[nova osprey]

yeah power plateau got some higher quality trades right off the bat

[hard panther]

and thats at least 10k sc batteries to hit lvl 3

yeah power plateau is no issue for me

its the awful infrastation trades

im gonna hate myself for this later but i guess i gotta just focus all my things on sc battery production

[runic epoch]

Make a compact sc production line for 2 days

That depends if you have enough space for that

[distant steeple]

How many wuling battery prod and xeranite prod should I make again?

[hard panther]

lol no

i have 0 space to do that

well

now i have all the space

cuz i deleted my main aic production line

[runic epoch]

Get your sc production to 12/min or something to upgrade the post within a day's yield

[hard panther]

i think i can get it even higher so ill just try to rush it

pray that my sub pacs can generate enough batteries to keep the grid alive

[marble yarrow]

xiranite @ 60/min. battery can max at 12/min

[shrewd sigil]

slight inconvenience

[tired parcel]

Ya know that sleepy face of her? She needs some excitement that's why she's helping the factory... Guess what happens when a sleepy person suddenly goes hyper... They shiver xD

[dull bone]

Fact

[hard panther]

absolutely cooked

[tired parcel]

Indeed

Can we just have more origicopium ??

Plz endfield

[hard panther]

at least that theortical is looking mighty fine

[tired parcel]

My yield is higher than theoretical (ilied)

[buoyant current]

Should I maximize valley four income now that I’ve finished the main place upgrades ?

[tired parcel]

If u want max income focus on purple products

Only if u have max outposts tho

[runic epoch]

Pls perlica I need this send 4 billion rock cancers to Talos II

[tired parcel]

Izok we got xiranite .. i think its radiation resistant

[buoyant current]

All the places have max upgrades but I don’t have max depot nodes and a few smaller things like that

I’m also almost done but not completely done grabbing all the nodes. I need to clear a stupid quest to unlock some of them

[tired parcel]

U dont really need max depot node for factories, if u do ore to final product type factory

[lofty hedge]

is this xiranite in a bottl

[marble yarrow]

the names of the liquid

[lofty hedge]

oh

yazhen solution

[buoyant current]

Ok

[sweet mantle]

Is amethyst bugged?

[past hatch]

theoretical usage calculated from how many depot you pull amethyst out

not the actual use

[signal osprey]

Guys, there is any blueprint for early wuling?

[past hatch]

#1461542035617091681 should be some

[signal osprey]

:/

[past hatch]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1465172276449247478

[slate minnow]

wht the best and early game to farm wuling money, I NEED MONEY

[past hatch]

^

[signal osprey]

Can you find it? Instead of giving channel

[past hatch]

I gave it

try clicking it with your mouse or touch screen

[runic epoch]

Balling
Fixed up my ratios

[unkempt pasture]

move a ton of ferrium over manually in dijiang and make a bunch of medicine

[shrewd grotto]

is regional transfer automatic or is that something i have to do like every hour

[marble yarrow]

it auto refreshes

[shrewd grotto]

so i can imagine it as though it were just 1500 ferium per hour extra to wuling

[marble yarrow]

yes, so you can get 115/min of ferrium

[civic bone]

does the bonus stock bills from the outpost trade (from operator passives) give me more exp on outpost?

[shrewd grotto]

okay thats huge information thank you

[marble yarrow]

no

[civic bone]

okie tysm

[marble yarrow]

also you can try it just, i dont remember if i have an operator when i did it back then, the prosperity+trading passives both at the same time.

[past hatch]

there's different operator that gives bonus prosperity xp

[prisma granite]

what r u even using it for

[hard panther]

a metric ton of sc batteries

[prisma granite]

i see

my usage looks like this

wrong image

its all capped

except originium tho

[hard panther]

dang why ur originium looking kinda red

[prisma granite]

i think i have 20 extra originium

[marble yarrow]

RIP 5 batteries

[marble yarrow]

convert it into originium crust

[prisma granite]

those 5 are used to power my essence farm turret setup

as well as zipline disaster

[runic epoch]

It doesn't but there's another passive for it to whatever is the equivalent to this

[prisma granite]

mine does

[late zodiac]

Laevatain has all three passives at that outpost yeah

[prisma granite]

based surtr

[signal osprey]

I need blueprint for early wuling

[runic epoch]

Who's the best for Power Plateau
I know Yvonne fills all for Infra

[late zodiac]

Gilberta

She's the only 3/3 for power plateau

Wuling outpost doesn't have a 3/3 but it would need to be someone with the Nature interest and expertise in Agility and Combat

Realistically will probably be Tangtang

[marble yarrow]

should be the next limited for wuling

[runic epoch]

My goat watch guard lifeng

[civic bone]

how many facility can a fluid pump power before it goes bankrupt

[runic epoch]

Water is infinite if I recall

[late zodiac]

Fluid pump harvests 1/second, I'm not sure if pipe transfer rate is set to the same or different

[marble yarrow]

facilities processes 0.5 water/sec. pump @ 1/sec

reactor can take 1/sec if you use 2 formula

[proven holly]

1 pump generate 1 water per second

Most facilitirs spend 0.5 water per second. So around 2 facilities to keep 100% uptime

[proven holly]

Pipe sends out 2/s at most

So can converge up to 2 pumps without backlog

Internal backlog*

[past hatch]

if only you could sustain attention to me just one minute

[civic bone]

alright noted, thanks guys

[shrewd grotto]

how much material per min is each depot unloader?

[gilded eagle]

is this any good

idk how to make it efficient on the side that doesnt have depot bus

[past hatch]

same as belts. 0.5 item/sec

[marble yarrow]

add 1 more belt from buck shredder

[keen willow]

you need 2 steel to make 1 bottle right?

[prisma granite]

yes

[keen willow]

that part also need to add another steel making section

[marsh comet]

oh my god the cryston crafting is taking me out. LMAO holy crap

that's crazy i need to write it down cause its sooooooo 🤣

[past hatch]

points for symmetry

[keen willow]

you only make cryston for the gear and nothing else?

[gilded eagle]

does it make it faster

[potent mantle]

just let it drain, it will eventually look like this

[marble yarrow]

yes. the shredder outputs 2 powder and the grinder needs 2 at a time

[past hatch]

otherwise, one shredder output 3 powders so you can use only 1 shredder to feed both machines

[runic epoch]

Do you have a node not mined?

[keen willow]

max is 1080/min mine only got 980 after finished connecting all the mineral beds?

my region also lvl 11

[potent mantle]

nope, all is mined

[slow prism]

Is this normal?

lwk ran out of originum

[gilded eagle]

anything to put in the top space

[potent mantle]

eventually u will reach a point where you try to drain your surplus purple battery so that u will not get a 80k cap

[past hatch]

having ferrium left means factory can grow more

[prisma granite]

ye it just bounces around sometimes

the transfer isn't super consistent

[marsh comet]

do we only get 3 outposts?

[potent mantle]

yup, 3 outpost to turn in

[marsh comet]

ohh okay, wuling has a diff outposts?

[potent mantle]

only 1

[marsh comet]

ohhh nice

[potent mantle]

everyhing is maxed out at my side

[marsh comet]

i mean... kinda nice, outposts are basically free lot you can grind items. 🤣

im struggggliiiiinnnggg to make cryston sooo complicated 🤣

[runic epoch]

Though your battery production is a little suspect
It's just a negligible difference but it shouldn't be running into any brick walls in 1 day if you aren't letting them stack up

[shrewd grotto]

if im also making gears can i do better than this

[tired parcel]

Fellas what can i do with 4 depot unloader?

[potent mantle]

i sacrifice 1 battery yield to make xiranite component for gear, i still hit the cap for stockpills in wuling anyway

[sweet mantle]

Did I do something wrong? Cause it loves to sleep

[shrewd grotto]

okay that might be giga worth it

[past hatch]

sleeping means input too slow and it has free time

[marble yarrow]

you can actually just set wuling battery production to 9/min (while you consume 1.5/min), and it matches outpost bill generation

[storm robin]

I came to lurk and learn, I've only accomplished one. I envy your minds

[potent mantle]

u need 4 inputs total

[ancient turtle]

how many violet batteries factories should i have in endgame valley4?

[potent mantle]

3

[young stag]

???

just sell them

[ancient turtle]

thanks

[prisma granite]

double both ur originium thing and ur cryston thing

[tired parcel]

Double ur originium and amethyst rate

[prisma granite]

depot unload into a loader

[potent mantle]

how to sell?

[prisma granite]

no more money

[ancient turtle]

do you also know how many wuling battery factory i need for endgame wuling?

[prisma granite]

swap outpost

that one broke

[tired parcel]

Lmao

[prisma granite]

[potent mantle]

swapped, how to sell?

[prisma granite]

uh

[potent mantle]

11k surplus, how?

[real nebula]

The factory broke

[prisma granite]

tell them make more money

[real nebula]

[young stag]

you have 2 other outposts

[ancient turtle]

no money

[prisma granite]

oh right I forgot that's what that meant

[marble yarrow]

you will get 7.5k extra batts daily if you max your production

[potent mantle]

changed, how to sell?

how?

[young stag]

man yall broke

but you can still send through depot node

[potent mantle]

how? tell me

[prisma granite]

donate to the poor

[ancient turtle]

still no money

[young stag]

depot node

deliveries

[prisma granite]

delivering batteries is wild

[ancient turtle]

you need to let it generate money by waiting

[potent mantle]

its criminal to the starving players that started

[past hatch]

yeah, deliver bombs like normal people

[young stag]

what else would you do lmao

[past hatch]

bombs for all talos-II citizen

[young stag]

stop producing them and use up stocks?

[real nebula]

I deliver batteries wdym

[potent mantle]

which is why i said, u rework your factory in a way that u will not get surplus

[prisma granite]

I deliver originium I'm trying to spread oripathy

[young stag]

surplus is good

[prisma granite]

[real nebula]

I will just wait till it clog

[potent mantle]

right now i am working towards on reducing my yield so that i will not have 11k surplus

[real nebula]

80k batteries and 80k buck flower A

[young stag]

why do you not want surplus

[hardy bronze]

Hi

[potent mantle]

cause i do not want 80k capped purple batteries

[prisma granite]

help the homeless feed them batteries and burn buck As for fuel

[young stag]

you are ages away from the 80k cap

be so fr

[real nebula]

Even i burn my buck A cuz i dont want to TP to heal

[marble yarrow]

actually you can cap HC in just 10 days

i transfer mine to wuling

[candid moth]

put down a heal tower to heal

[prisma granite]

I drink jincao drink

yummy

[young stag]

and that’s 10 days you can wait until outposts don’t become poor again

[narrow moat]

does electric mining rig mk2 make a difference in terms of mining speed or just lets you mine ferrirum and higher

[past hatch]

it only heals when you're red

[candid moth]

full hp is for casual

[potent mantle]

u use buck A to heal? dafuq? use this

[marble yarrow]

no. it considers daily clearing all outpost bills

[candid moth]

[real nebula]

[prisma granite]

just ferrium

[real nebula]

No, i need to consume buck A

[past hatch]

use sheep to heal like normal people

[real nebula]

Other consumables exist for a decoration purposes

[narrow moat]

what does depot bus do...

[real nebula]

Craft 1 and then let it rot

[prisma granite]

real

[past hatch]

it lets you attach loader and unloader to input/output items

[real nebula]

Buck A for the way

[potent mantle]

allow u to load in items into your factory

[shrewd grotto]

wait im just curious whats ur xiranite production at

[real nebula]

Buck A is good for the operator healthiness

[prisma granite]

gives u more ways to output items aside from ur PAC

[proud robin]

Not My Ss but some mf filled the 40k Water Thing near the Main AIC with Liquid Xiranite...

[shrewd grotto]

how do u even do this

[potent mantle]

didnt i post up there in chat

[real nebula]

Eww green

[past hatch]

with malicious intend

[marble yarrow]

this one discharges to areas that can be filled with liquid

[proud robin]

that's the neat thing i have no fucking idea Lmao

[shrewd grotto]

like the green material

xiranite

[runic epoch]

It's time to strip down my v4 once again
Came back to see my yields plummeting lmao

[shrewd grotto]

but how do u fill it with xiranite if its already filled with water o.0

[marble yarrow]

drain it?

[marsh comet]

ohhh this is a good one, ill copy this 🤣

[proud robin]

its more because of the ridiculous amount of time that would requiere to full that entirely with Xiranite

[shrewd grotto]

into what

[marble yarrow]

ITS JUST FEW

[ashen sail]

This is fulfilling.

[real nebula]

Factory Must Grow

[past hatch]

points for organization

[real nebula]

[proud robin]

https://tenor.com/view/satisfactory-factor-io-factorio-satisfactory-game-automation-gif-4780683496031639747

[nova cradle]

@proven holly there i added two more grinders~

[past hatch]

points for belt braiding

[shrewd grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/factorio-meme-gif-3889498549816766297

[proud robin]

what

Wrong channel twin

[nova cradle]

turns out it's actually so easy all i had to do was continue constructing the belt over each other. It took me like 3 - 4 hours to leearn the belt bridges 💀

[marble yarrow]

off topic. send it somewhere

[pearl terrace]

😭 🙏 ?

[past hatch]

i mean you braid them nicely

[nova cradle]

oh wait i forgot one more sandleaef unloadr

[proud robin]

Your name is therapist do something

[pearl terrace]

Nha

[proud robin]

fym Nah

🥀

[potent mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/sexy-gif-13566874422611527206

[rough breach]

the only hot thing here is machinery

[marble yarrow]

115/min ferrium 🔥

[potent mantle]

https://tenor.com/view/endfield-arknights-endministrator-relay-tower-run-gif-13814105557037984773

[rough breach]

gave up on making perfect grid line hahah

[marsh comet]

can i stop producing the blue (amethyst component) one and use that space for cryston? since the purple component you can still use and sell anyways.

[prisma granite]

it took me 2 minutes

[ashen sail]

Who is she?

[pearl terrace]

FAAHHHHHHH

[shrewd grotto]

wait so were u pumping out water while pumping in xirainte?

[past hatch]

cancer for everyone

[spice summit]

how do i unlock sandleaf

wtf

its not in the database

[shrewd grotto]

last area in valley IV

[past hatch]

You can find them in Power Plateau

[prisma granite]

pumping out takes like 2 seconds

pumping in takes another 2

its only 45 storage

[spice summit]

where is that in the map

there is only valley pass and sci park and the quarry

[runic epoch]

Play the story

[rough breach]

its so annoy to make the crystone gear component XD

[shrewd grotto]

im confused about the set up did u just hava a bunch of pumps going into fluid tank?

[spice summit]

?

[rough breach]

200 amethyst yeild is not enough

[shrewd grotto]

2 above scicnce park

[spice summit]

soooo

[runic epoch]

You can honestly skip cryston gear

Amethyst gear does pretty well

[spice summit]

ohh

ok

thx

[shrewd grotto]

wait i edited it

2 above science park

[spice summit]

thx

i now see

[prisma granite]

pump from river dump to other side

pump from crucible

dump into river

[stoic coyote]

Blight problem no more, now cancer problem

[runic epoch]

All according to priestess's plan

[prisma granite]

i filled it with jincao juice

medicinal river for all

[ashen sail]

Question. How do you manage power? Do you build them on separate subpac? I'm running near limit 3k currently

[marble yarrow]

guys if u need 115/min for Wuling meds production (90/min from nodes + 25/min from regional transfer)

[tired parcel]

Do u have access to hc?

[shrewd knoll]

or you can let it run normally and it will distribute itself evenly when you hit 0

[tired parcel]

XD

[marble yarrow]

sure

[ashen sail]

Hc battery? Yes that's my source of income for refuge camp.

[runic epoch]

Split the HC's into 5 thermals

[tired parcel]

^

U might want 2 battery factories

Cz one can only support 4 consistently

At max speed

[prisma granite]

it can roughly support it

the usage jumps a little

[tired parcel]

Well yeah it fluctuates... Still sustainable if it increases faster than it drops

[sweet mantle]

Is this fine?

[prisma granite]

no

[tired parcel]

Red

!

[obsidian osprey]

are there enough ferrium deposits in wuling in order to have a non-negative yield/usage ratio for ferrium? im trying to make yazhen syringe C

[prisma granite]

no

u get 90 at cap

[tough ledge]

^

[prisma granite]

i wish i could do 120

[obsidian osprey]

yeaaah

[prisma granite]

so that my drink production is efficient

but whatever

[obsidian osprey]

should i transfer ferrium from valley IV over?

[tough ledge]

2:1 part and bottle is your max output basically

[obsidian osprey]

or is it not worth

[prisma granite]

not rlly worth it tbh

[obsidian osprey]

gonna have to live with red number

[tough ledge]

Metastorage isnt a replacement for native ore vein

[prisma granite]

ur ferrium usage should be capped in valley iv anyways

[sweet mantle]

[tired parcel]

If u r crazy enough u can use protocol stash as extra storage then deliver all of ur ferrium ore here like me

[obsidian osprey]

so the max things i can make in wuling rn are the batteries, xiranite components, and syringe?

[obsidian osprey]

what could you possibly need that badly

[tired parcel]

So far it seems like that... Either syringe or jincao thingy

[runic epoch]

Switch the syringe to jincao

[north gulch]

haha jincao

[tired parcel]

Ferrium part for packaging

[prisma granite]

oh u added the 2 belts per stash

[obsidian osprey]

whats the use for jincao?

[prisma granite]

wonderful

[prisma granite]

drink and carbon

at least what im using it for

[spice summit]

WHAT PROTOOL STASH IS EXTRE TORANGE OANFDA

[obsidian osprey]

well yeah i have the jincao for carbon for my xiranite but wydm replace syringe?

[prisma granite]

yes

each stash is like 450(?) extra

[obsidian osprey]

6 slots that hold 50

[prisma granite]

oh 6

300 then

[young stag]

it’s only 300

not even worth much

[fathom grotto]

somebody please for the love of god how do i do this tutorial without getting this dumb data error thing appear every time

[prisma granite]

i couldnt remember if it was 9 or 6 slots

[fathom grotto]

this is the crucible expansion simulation tutorial

[young stag]

don’t alter belts

[prisma granite]

exit and click mark as done

[young stag]

yeah just do that lmao

[fathom grotto]

i did not

[obsidian osprey]

i forgot tutorials exist

[young stag]

you still get the rewards if you mark it as done

[obsidian osprey]

maybe i shouldve used those

[young stag]

so

eh

[glossy nymph]

Should I buy this :3

[fathom grotto]

oh didnt know this exists

[young stag]

have you upgraded everything

[tired parcel]

HAHAHA SMART YET STUPID IDEA I LIKE IT

[tired parcel]

Moving the whole thing will say the server is busy

[river robin]

Can someone tell me what theoretical data is based on? How do I match real data to theoretical data?

[stone meadow]

this is full efficiency right?
i might need to make it more compact so i can lower some power usage

[proven holly]

Hi. The middle is not producing any brownbox, needs sandleaf dust. The other two is producing brownbox at half efficiency (they need 2 full belts of brown dust each, but now they have 1, partially full, belt of browndust)

Thanks for posting it here. I need to see that

[nova cradle]

yeah i just realize that too a whilee ago im doing it now haha

i forgot one moree sand leaf powder output

[hexed raft]

what this for? cant i just unload and load from PAC input and output?

[nova cradle]

like i contstruct 2 more shredders for brown dust? or just add 2 belts?

[river robin]

It's basically free output slots.

[proven holly]

Construct 4 more shredders, each fed by 1 unloader of brownstone

2 shredders feed to 1 grinder

[hexed raft]

oh ok so if you used up all on PAC you got extra?

[proven holly]

Rn you have 2 shredder. For 3 grinders you need 6, thus why you need extra 4

[nova cradle]

ok ill do that!

let's see

surely i wont run out of originium?

that's a lot of brown dust

[proven holly]

Yes

[turbid linden]

hi, are there any other ways to automate taking things out of the depot other than the bus unloader and the main aic thing?

[proven holly]

For max efficiency

[glossy nymph]

I am not even sure after seeing this....

[nova cradle]

yeaeh but im worried about my reserves

[proven holly]

Up your mines first

[proven holly]

No atm

[stone meadow]

that doesn't make use of amethyst

[timid torrent]

I realized my brain may be fried as I overcomplicated this way too much in the left photo 😭

[turbid linden]

damn i dont have enough places to take stuff out of 😭

[autumn canopy]

would it be smart to use hc batteries in wuling by importing them from valley 4 to avoid using wuling batteries

[nova cradle]

it literally sounds like im suppose to copy someone's production facilities before i build this type of xiranite factory

[proven holly]

Hmm, its more fun doing it yourself. I havent used others blueprint thus far.

[nova cradle]

what's this max efficiency xira factory based on?

[drifting coyote]

how do i get people to accept my valley depot jobs....

[glossy nymph]

Lowkey i didn't know we can get hearts like this.

[proven holly]

100% uptime, as in, no machine got idle

[stone meadow]

i don't think so you can transfer max 30 per hour 1 battery only last for 40sec
you would need 3 times more than that
unless you manual transfer on dijiang

[north gulch]

that's why i love perlica with all my heart

[nova cradle]

so 8 shredders, 3 grinders is 100% uptime?

[autumn canopy]

yeah

manual transfer on dijiang

[glossy nymph]

OI BACK OFF.

[autumn canopy]

if 4/min maybe thats 5k per day

[distant sphinx]

I also think at wuling outpost 2 you can clear exchange with just 1 Wuling battery line and 1 drink line

[nova cradle]

6 originium powder 3 sandleaf powders, 3 grinders? whose factory is this from?

[glossy nymph]

Broom broom

[shrewd knoll]

doesnt look anything like the photo, you got a counterfeit

[inner bay]

You can't. Once you transferred the job, you can only wait

[glossy nymph]

That's why I do my job by my self.

Got my ziplines set for that

[hexed raft]

how much stuff is an coveyor belt thing able to transport/s?

[distant sphinx]

30/m, 0.5/s

[proven holly]

That depends on the formula

Brownbox:
Needs Grinder
Needs 2 browndust, 1 sand dust,
Processing time 2 seconds

That means, 1 grinder needs 1 browndust per second, and 0.5 sand dust per second

1 shredder can make 0.5 browndust per second (see its formula and u will understand), so u need 2 shredders to get 1 browndust per second

1 unloader can unload 0.5 sand dust per second so that solves it.

Thus 1 grinder needs 2 originium shredder, and 1 sand dust unloader

[north gulch]

no

[hexed raft]

ty

[stone meadow]

yeah 5760 that's a lot to transfer

[cunning tapir]

WHAT DO YALL PLANT IN ECO FARM

mb caps

[nova cradle]

i literally already have that but why is it better to have 3 grinders over that then?

[proven holly]

U make batteries

[nova cradle]

im alrady making battereies

[proven holly]

100 uptime requires how many grinders?

Based on battery formula

[nova cradle]

yea im asking you that i dunno

[proven holly]

Ss the battery formula

And ss the brownbox formula

[stone meadow]

wait how much power did you use in wuling why is it use so much battery

[proven holly]

I mean i can tell u the answer directly if u want.

||3 grinders||

[nova cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/gon-hx-h-gon-thinking-gif-19587492

[autumn canopy]

it fluctuate from 2 to 4

i just use 2 thermal banks

[nova cradle]

ok

[stone meadow]

i only use 2.59k so 3 battery is enough

[nova cradle]

what about the thermal banks do i need 3?

[proven holly]

Battery formula:
5* xiranite, 15 brownbox
Processing time 10 seconds

So u need 1.5 brownbox per second

1 grinder at 100 uptime gives y 0.5 brownbox per second

So 3 grinders.

[proven holly]

At 100 uptime battery production, 4

BUT

right now wuling only need 2

Rest u keep in storage

[distant sphinx]

Personally it is easier to think about it in belt terms
1 belt of xiananite and 3 belts of origi-cubes

[autumn canopy]

mine is 1.89k/2.4k

[ashen sail]

So how does hc supply work? Hc from one port pac to 4 thermal banks?

[proven holly]

As long as it works.

[autumn canopy]

i use the main PAC to feed it batteries

[nova cradle]

i see thanks for telling me all this and trying to make it digeestable and it's nice to see theseee batteeery farms possible because of you

[stone meadow]

so it does consume only 3 and it show 2/4 because of fluctuation huh...

[autumn canopy]

yeah the theoretical shows 3

didnt include in the first screenshot

[willow beacon]

can i adjust this to be a specific #/min instead of a specific # in total

i wanna use only 20/min

[proven holly]

No

[willow beacon]

that's dumb

[marble yarrow]

use a splitter

[willow beacon]

yea that was my second plan

[marble yarrow]

then return 1/3

[tired parcel]

Fella... What to do with 4 ferrium depot unloaders?

[proven holly]

Bottle

Steel

[tired parcel]

Hmm

Aite lemme see

[stone meadow]

yeah 3 is suffice you only need 4320 battery per day then

[proven holly]

Or steel parts at 1 per second (battery hc)

[willow beacon]

this works right

[trim star]

4 ferrium is enough for a battery

[trim star]

no

[willow beacon]

why not

[autumn canopy]

i dont use much of the batteries in valley 4 anyway since i sell out the 3 outposts with buck A's and C

[trim star]

you need to move the converger down one tile

[marble yarrow]

yes but simplify it like this

[willow beacon]

oh tru

[marble yarrow]

you have 3 input ports

[proven holly]

Unloader -> splitter > 2 lanes into refiner (20 per min), 1 lane elsewhere

[trim star]

also doesnt work

[willow beacon]

why not

[trim star]

converger next to splitter again

they cant be touching

[willow beacon]

oh was that the issue

[marble yarrow]

they can

[willow beacon]

my b

[trim star]

they cant

[proven holly]

Just branch it into 3, and send 2 where u want it to, and 1 into depot

[trim star]

as the expert on this it'll turn into a 30/min refiner

[marble yarrow]

m?

[trim star]

instead of what you hope it does

[marble yarrow]

"the expert" sure

[trim star]

yeah it's almost like i investigated this bug for 2 hours

until i figured out why it wasnt working

[lucid python]

CEO of splitter converger techs

[willow beacon]

idk man it looks like it's outputting originium?

am i tweaking

[trim star]

it's just convergers being really bad

[proven holly]

I think that works, is that splitter splitting into 3? I dont see a connection between it and the converger

[trim star]

once it fills it'll stop sending to the converger properly

because it will constantly think the converger is full

thus creating a positive feedback loop where it will never send to the splitter

that's the tldr anyways

[proven holly]

Keep it running for a minute see if it clogs

You might spend more time debating than testing. Id say it work

[willow beacon]

it'll have to run for like 8 hours

[trim star]

or save yourself the trouble and just place the splitter next to the refiner

lol

[willow beacon]

whole reason i'm making this is because i ran low

[proven holly]

1 minute to test clog

The clog theory, i dont think itll happen

Oh however

[willow beacon]

how am i gonna clog without having enough resources to clog

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1465994393847599207/IMG_2040.png?ex=697b212c&is=6979cfac&hm=4f50645ec1adf4d77120ff7c8bafd654b159d7a8a35acc0d9220519b51e0e411&

[slow quiver]

heyya!

[proven holly]

If your depot is full of brown rocks

[trim star]

shenanigans

[marble yarrow]

the refiner should provide an empty spot the converger can enter

[proven holly]

Your shit will stop moving

[trim star]

it's not clogging

[willow beacon]

whatever man this works

[trim star]

it'll run too fast on the other hand

[slow quiver]

you guys got any factory for wu ling ?

[trim star]

yeah that'll work fine

[slow quiver]

just started out i mean

[willow beacon]

if you just started you have 0 resources

what factory are you making twin

[trim star]

wuling

[glossy nymph]

Me changed my gender for a pic.

[willow beacon]

yeah 0 wuling resources

[trim star]

peak

[willow beacon]

no originium or ferrium

[trim star]

water obv

[willow beacon]

what's the male one

[slow quiver]

I'm not sure atm, someone said that I should make the new resource battery

[trim star]

also you can do xiranite with no resources

[slow quiver]

but rn I really wanted the gold gear

[trim star]

but you need forges

[glossy nymph]

My pfp

[slow quiver]

I did got most of the mining node connected

[willow beacon]

oh

persona lookin ahh

[rough finch]

Are you guys able to clear out the 3 outpost stock bill inventory everyday in valley 4?

[trim star]

yes

[willow beacon]

what's ur yield

[glossy nymph]

Yooo this 2 aline well

[rough finch]

I have the max output but it seems like they are making more money than I can produce

[willow beacon]

oh yeah you can make a battery factory

you got depot upgrades?

[proven holly]

Same, but i ran my near max for less than a day for now

[marble yarrow]

want to let me run this for 2 hours?

[trim star]

you might wanna get the rest of the originium and the ferrium node as well

[trim star]

i see only origocrust coming out

your point

sorry

[marble yarrow]

?

[willow beacon]

[trim star]

yeah keep it going and check the origocrust prod

[willow beacon]

if it works it works idc

[trim star]

it'll be way higher than what you think it is

[proven holly]

It works

[trim star]

not sure about offline sim

[proven holly]

No diff

[marble yarrow]

sure. for 2 hours

[trim star]

there shouldnt be one, but last time i looked at it convergers did work as intended offline

[willow beacon]

yeah disq is right, before i fixed it, origocrust prod was slowly rising

[trim star]

so maybe

^^

it'll overfill the converger and you'll never get the 1/3rd split

i literally studied this bug until i figured it out i know what im talking about

[marble yarrow]

sure

[willow beacon]

W mans

do you have a yelp

[marble yarrow]

i'll test it anyway

[proven holly]

The only problem (unlikely, since this thing is to offset the idle 20/min from a maxed out valley4) is that if your depot somehow is full of originium, that belt will stop sending in stuff (clog) including the triangle ore even if triangle ore is not full

[trim star]

if machines checked for empty slots in convergers i think it would be fixed

they just check if any slot is filled and if so they dont send to it ever

[trim star]

i mean you'll max out on origocrust before your originium runs out

clogging is not a real issue cause like

what are you using 80k for

idk

[spice summit]

clogging isnt really a issue

[trim star]

it's just a good thing to note that convergers dont work very well

[spice summit]

yeah

[spice summit]

they slow down right?

[trim star]

machines dont like sending to them

[spice summit]

i been obesing over facotry soo i noticed it tens to slow down its only really good if your producing items that are like 10/s

[marble yarrow]

how about this

[trim star]

no clue what its doing

[spice summit]

what am i looking at

[marble yarrow]

its a 115/min ferrium thing

[trim star]

general rule of thumb if it's maxed throughput and a converger is next to a machine chances are it wont do what it is supposed to do

but if it works it works

so i cant give much say on that

[willow beacon]

you been obesing over it?

[willow beacon]

it can't taste that good

[trim star]

lemme just send this example

this one doesnt work

it splits 3:4

this one does work

[tired parcel]

Any ideas? These are the leftovers, before theoretical numbers... What to do with these

[trim star]

it splits 5:6

[willow beacon]

batteries, it looks like

[trim star]

if you look at both images they look like they're working fine

that's because it's the first set to run through

on the image on the top

[tired parcel]

Hmm maybe batteries it is... Blue one xd

[willow beacon]

why blue

that's perfect amount for HC battery

[tired parcel]

REALLY? WTH

[willow beacon]

my HC battery factory

[marble yarrow]

wdym by 3:4

[tired parcel]

NO SHIT U RIGHT

Im stupid

Aite

Peak efficiency

[trim star]

this is simple reason why the first one doesnt function properly

[trim star]

it splits 3 items to the right per 4 items

[tired parcel]

3 hc factory + 3 A packaging

[trim star]

instead of 5 every 6

as intended

[marsh comet]

that's just fine right? having your ores always capping? that's much better than having scarcity in ores 🤣

[proven holly]

Ye

[tired parcel]

Bruh thank you for pointing that out XD

[willow beacon]

[limpid shale]

when your manager ask you for your production report

[tired parcel]

Ever since i played endfield i got smth similar to brain eating amoeba (hehe)

[trim star]

bro going for the pollution

question mark

[tired parcel]

Bro just work up

[willow beacon]

where tf is all that ferrium from

[hidden temple]

yep that gets you to 1080/1080 fer and 540/560 ori

[proven holly]

Emptied bottles

[limpid shale]

I'm being productive boss

[willow beacon]

12k of them?

[tired parcel]

Aite ty for confirmation, peak

[willow beacon]