aic-factory

[little kraken]

Bro, getting the wuling currency is such a hassle. The lack of Ferrium deposits is so annoying 😭

[silent violet]

yeah idk

im pretty sure ive been gaining ferrium tho

im at 30k now

and its running at 6/min

[potent geyser]

are you importing ore?

[crystal herald]

hope so

[silent violet]

math doesnt say so but i have 30k in the bank somehow

[nova osprey]

no you're right, it runs at 96% efficiency max

[silent violet]

and i was definitely at 0 before starting metastorage

[potent geyser]

this needs to be studied

[nova osprey]

knowing arknights, they will, im really hoping it's like that

[potent geyser]

show your build

[silent violet]

its running at 6

[potent geyser]

huh

[silent violet]

i cant explain it

[potent geyser]

show ore

amount

[crystal herald]

btw does it happen to you in 2hr curve?

[nova osprey]

over two hours

[potent geyser]

I don't believe

wtf

[nova osprey]

check over two hours

[potent geyser]

math ain't mathing

[silent violet]

dawg i havent touched this thing in like 5 days

[potent geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cringe-math-dies-from-math-death-gif-22822700

[nova osprey]

let me check

[potent geyser]

I have the exact same setup running rn

[inner bay]

What's the maximum yield for all mineral in Valley IV?

[potent geyser]

I'll go check how it's doing

[lofty hedge]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466043358509273349
this should be fine to have in v4 till like the end of time right

[nova osprey]

yeah i guess it does, im guessing some optimizations serverside screws it up

[crystal herald]

this is what happens in 1d curve

[nova osprey]

i mean ferrium

[nova osprey]

same

[lofty hedge]

?

[gentle seal]

560 Originium / 240 Amethyst / 1080 Ferrium

[crystal herald]

omg I had so many doubts on my build lol

[nova osprey]

pretty sure there are some optimizations affecting it

[potent geyser]

and you're importing iron ore

[silent violet]

yeah

1.5k

[inner bay]

How do people get 1080 ferrium? Mine stuck at 790

[crystal herald]

do you have any neat blueprints for valley 4?

[gentle seal]

What's your Regional Development Level?

[nova osprey]

uhh not until the end of time, once you run out of things to buy v4 side, we will probably want to switch to a universal factory that covers most items, to store things in the long term

[silent violet]

reg dev level

[inner bay]

No mine at lvl 11

[potent geyser]

need more miners

[agile wave]

hello what's good early game blueprint

[nova osprey]

oh i mean serverside algorithm optimizations, by that i mean i think the server makes mistakes when trying to figure out how much we made

[inner bay]

[gentle seal]

Than, you missed a mineral bed

[cedar bay]

How many of these BuckA productions can I have running at once 3?

[crystal herald]

nono my base is just a mess right now in v4 so i was just asking

[lofty hedge]

erm

but what about stock redistribution storefr

[nova osprey]

it will suit all your needs for now

[silent violet]

wtf am i looking at

[potent geyser]

mad cow. good thing I decided to check on my setup, turns out I had my pipes placed wrong, nothing was working, what a waste of time

[nova osprey]

im telling you people are going to buy out the entire stock redistribution store at some point

[mellow jungle]

why does power plateau have really scuffed hitboxes

[nova osprey]

ive almost fully emptied the stock store myself lol

[potent geyser]

don't look there

it's deranged

[nova osprey]

2 weeks, my v4 side will have next to nothing to buy except engraving tickets

[silent violet]

just buy em

[potent geyser]

what are you doing here?

[nova osprey]

yeah definitely going to, but i mean you dont need to be that efficient anymore

[mortal hemlock]

ive now gotten my desired forgeborn in wuling. what do i do know with my surplus credits? just invest in AIC?

[lofty hedge]

tru

so

[nova osprey]

also at that point, just doing stock trading and depot orders should be enough to finish the entire stock

[lofty hedge]

ddoes the same apply for wuling

[nova osprey]

use the build, it's good

[lofty hedge]

afteru buy everything u make

all in one production

[nova osprey]

wuling is different, you will want to be enhancing armors constantly

[lofty hedge]

oh

ok

[nova osprey]

but use the build, sorry im just being super pedantic

[scenic comet]

yes, 3 buckA, 3 HC Bat, 4 buckC

[potent geyser]

surplus where? in V4? buy engraving tickets. in Wuling? buy artificing thingie

[lofty hedge]

i already using the max production for capsule A, C and hc batteries

[nova osprey]

the build is good, but you might see people switch to a more universal build later down the line

[nova osprey]

the guy's build is correct, but only slightly. you get 66 more stock bills an hour, up to 3.6k bills an hour, but you're still capped by trade limits

[potent geyser]

artificing takes so much money, it's insane

[mellow jungle]

this is about factory stuff, right?

[scenic comet]

done with zipline map, annotated and everything 🙂 passes by all ore, gatherables, depot, and delivery spots

[cedar bay]

Thanking you.

[crystal herald]

wuling articing catalyst

[silent violet]

artificing catalyst main prio

[potent geyser]

I mean what are you doing on the screenshot, not in the chat

[nova osprey]

my damn nightmare

[mellow jungle]

fun stuff

[silent violet]

espcially the discounted ones

[crystal herald]

oh yea we dont talk about it here lol

[crystal herald]

should I do it ???lol

[lofty hedge]

im like 1m stock bills from maxing depot nodes, after that everything else is like getting every outpost level maxed and then everything in v4 is maxed iirc

[nova osprey]

100%

[lofty hedge]

so idk :P

[nova osprey]

you'll be getting 7+ mil daily with a triple hc and triple med a factory setup so

[crystal herald]

oh la la

[lofty hedge]

triple?

so 18/m

[nova osprey]

[lofty hedge]

:P

[nova osprey]

damnnn

[lofty hedge]

right

[nova osprey]

yes

[crystal herald]

damn my entire life savings lol

[lofty hedge]

so 18m capsule A and hc battery and 1 of everything else?

[nova osprey]

have you dipped into the fixed 200 stock yet?

[lofty hedge]

after i max all stockbill requiring items

[potent geyser]

you don't need "everything else"

[lofty hedge]

yeah but migth as well when u get max stock bill upgraded

[nova osprey]

no just that is enough

you can make c meds too though so you dont max your amethyst

[crystal herald]

60 left

[nova osprey]

aye, that stock disappears fast

[lofty hedge]

i feel like i dont have to change my setup

if this is the case

however

idk

[hidden temple]

it's a little finnicky but you can connect these two with just 2 ziplines
while ofc still connecting to up north

[crystal herald]

yea i have been comsuming it like my favourite snack lol

but the other 140 evaporates

lol

[nova osprey]

who are you using on your outposts?

[nova osprey]

ive been mainly finishing the 40 stock first

[lofty hedge]

like operator?

[nova osprey]

dipping into the fixed stock after

[nova osprey]

yeah

[nova cradle]

I fixed it now again. It clogged again because I put the sand powders again with the ori powders. It's smooth now cuz i separated them

[lofty hedge]

laevatein for valley pass
chen for infra station
ardelia for power plateau

[crystal herald]

and 1 max

[hoary epoch]

I meant to ask, was this coming from a single sandleaf entry point?

[nova osprey]

nice omg physical build, honestly looks so fun

[scenic comet]

i know, but then you can't connect the southern zipline without a 2nd one anyways

[crystal herald]

no luck with other team so... yeah

[hidden temple]

that's what I'm saying, you can

[scarlet cipher]

How do I optimize this with control ports to the second thermal bank? Is there anyone who can explain it or has a good video guide to it or something?

[nova osprey]

you can swap around operators when you're doing trading btw, while keeping operators who increase outpost gain by 20% on whenever not trading

[nova osprey]

fair, you have two teams atm?

[lofty hedge]

those are the peak operators iirc

[hidden temple]

oh wait you mean the one leading into the city

[lofty hedge]

like

[scenic comet]

so the glitchy 1 can connect both north and south? i was only able to connect the north one, i probably would need to move the south one a little bit then, is it on the roof?

[crystal herald]

shhhhhh nobody talked abt this yet lol

[lofty hedge]

so uh do i keep using max prodcution for capsule A and HC battery or switch off to make some of everything?

[empty pulsar]

wdym optimize?

[nova osprey]

i don't think they'll change it

[empty pulsar]

if youre not overfeeding your thermal banks youre good

[nova osprey]

seems pretty intended

[nova cradle]

My ez zipline set up for this area

[marble yarrow]

Yeah i usually do spreadsheet to exactly time the power drain and recovery

[scarlet cipher]

Like, you can slow the battery feed to a bank using a series of splitters or control ports or something to reduce battery waste.

[crystal herald]

nah only one I dont run fire team even though I have laevatain maybe in the future I wanna run art infliction team tho..

[nova osprey]

bro's copying me (jk)

[scenic comet]

you don't need to, the battery output is smart and will only allocated 25% to each thermal bank, if you only have 1 thermal you get 75% output for an example, unless u want less than 25% per thermal so u flucate in power?

[nova osprey]

i seee

[lofty hedge]

?

[west vessel]

i have a blueprint offering adaptive power usage with math calculation https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467813245606825995

[scenic comet]

the power flucation is annoying there because it keeps telling you your base is out of power ever 20 seconds, so that's not fun

[empty pulsar]

oh, I dont do that because that will require some calculation, some formula and very factory dependant because you have your own usage. And you need to do this again if you add even a single zipline

also yes, the notification for power output limit is not fun

[scarlet cipher]

Fair enough

[scenic comet]

you only need 0.75 xcomp /min because artificing is capped at 20k stocks which you only make every 1.25 hours

[scarlet cipher]

I probably won't bother then haha

[nova osprey]

yeah, or you could just ingore everything while you try to finish the stock market

if you're matching the trades though? like finishing them? you can stay with your setup, no reason to other than trying to get max value trades

[empty pulsar]

but if ure asking how to optimize the space, this is how I do mine

[crystal herald]

I have no luck in gacha I only have 4 six* operator(6 if u count dupe) still with 10 six* weapons (11 if u count dupe)

[silent violet]

i got u

[nova osprey]

ah no laev weapon yet?

[silent violet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1467843941297684480

[nova osprey]

dude 11 weapons

brooo, i only have 4 xD

and one of them was bought xD

that's not bad honestly

[silent violet]

power notification only happens when ur in aic area

[crystal herald]

I have

[silent violet]

if ur in the world it doesnt happen

[lucid python]

abt the best I can do ya?

[nova osprey]

geez

waot sp wjat

oops

[scenic comet]

you don't get more stocks, it's the outpost output that determines bill gain, you'll just get very few more batteries if you're not already capping out (which u can without doing this)

[silent violet]

did you not read the disclaimer? 💀

[nova osprey]

ngl feels like you got quite lucky xD

[crystal herald]

but my weapons are bloated

[nova osprey]

im running p1 laev + p1 sig with everyone else pretty much being supporting

[crystal herald]

ngl tho I hit pretty good in weapons

[lucid python]

also i did not mean to reply LOL

[silent violet]

why is chen using laev sig? 🤔

[nova osprey]

oh are 4 of those from the boxes?

[empty pulsar]

true but I spend 99% of my time playing this game inside my healing circle

[nova osprey]

i wish we could turn that notif off xD

[nova osprey]

you did lol

[empty pulsar]

the memos? those are my memos

[nova osprey]

clannibal is perfect for wulfgard

[crystal herald]

3 and 1 unopened box

[nova osprey]

i see i see

[crystal herald]

I know I havent used fire team

[nova osprey]

understandableee

[lofty hedge]

wuling attack towers dont cost any like steel components right

[nova osprey]

im gonna leave my wulfgard at 80 ig

[west vessel]

That is true indeed, actually my original design is 10bat+1component, but i switch to 1.5component to fill up the inventory faster

[nova osprey]

work on second team

[nova osprey]

they do iirc

wow

just wow xD

[lofty hedge]

aw

[empty pulsar]

nice but #salt-mine-gacha-flex

[nova osprey]

whats the reason you're not running fire team?

[crystal herald]

mb

[nova osprey]

you like phys build?

[empty pulsar]

dont mind it

[nova osprey]

idm either

[marble yarrow]

Guys please stay on topic, i dont see factory talks

[nova osprey]

besides not much factory going on here

[empty pulsar]

balls

[crystal herald]

is fire team more op than physical team I only have laeva

[nova osprey]

https://giphy.com/gifs/absolute-cinema-endmin-meme-GH3j3KMy8BLhfodj3w

[crystal herald]

in physical I have lifeng mc , and 5 dupe chen

[nova osprey]

phys is more consistent into bosses that move a lot like aggelomorai

[halcyon bay]

how many HC valley battery to power a base for 1 hour

[nova osprey]

and the reason why is because you can stunlock her

[empty pulsar]

uhh depends on ur power usage

[nova osprey]

so you are perma doing damage

but laev is really strong also

[halcyon bay]

only using one bank atm

[nova osprey]

i managed to speedrun aggelomorai even though it took a few tries, since she moves too much

[empty pulsar]

yeah looks good, why do you want to only power for just 1 hour?

[nova osprey]

but laev is the queen for aoe content

100%

[crystal herald]

I just i will build it after maxing my phys build ig

[crystal herald]

yea her ult is so op

[nova osprey]

fun stuff, i want lifeng, hes the only one im missing from standard and the one i maybe? need to finish my phys comp

[halcyon bay]

using regional transfer

[crystal herald]

my close friend even used with endmin , ardelia, chen , laev

[digital mirage]

ONCE IM AT XIRANITE, I DONT NEED THIS ANYMORE RIGHT?

[river flicker]

i have 7 depot point should i go for slow hc battery build or something else

[nova osprey]

that unfortunately doesn't work too well xD

like you can clear it, just wont be good for longer fights

[empty pulsar]

max purple battery transfer from valley to wuling assuming you have lvl 12 RDM is 30/hour

[crystal herald]

I dont use it but that guy is a waifu enjoyer doesnt care abt the comp lol

[leaden drift]

Would zipline routes count as factory?

[nova osprey]

you only need like 200 of them.. not 20 000 of them xD

[nova osprey]

lmaooo

[halcyon bay]

diesofdeath

[crystal herald]

I like lifeng a lot like lifeng is my #1 idk why youtubers putting him D tier

[halcyon bay]

incredible TV drain

[leaden drift]

You need like 80k

[nova osprey]

factory buildings? yes if you mean camera mode. if you mean apart of the factory build limit? shouldn't

they count towards the regional placement limit though

[azure rivet]

I hate endfield devs for this

[nova osprey]

you're not alone

[sour night]

I have made the most useless factory in my sub area lmao

[leaden drift]

Im thinking of would we consider the routes people make for efficiency a factory thing or not. In wuling im trying to make optimal routes but hit regional limit somehow already

[sour night]

Wasted over 2 hours on this shit

[nova osprey]

i think mostly bc he's a supporting unit, as far as i know

you need other units to make him worthwhile

honestly the tiers dont really matter, if you build towards a certain niche like physical damager

[leaden drift]

Only 2 hours?

[nova osprey]

damn

[empty pulsar]

gentle reminder to get used to abusing protocol stash in your factory

[sour night]

For absoultely no gain

[empty pulsar]

this thing is op

[digital mirage]

8OK FOR WHAT

[nova osprey]

i swear i spent like 10 hours on the factory total xD

more maybe

[digital mirage]

i cant hold 80k?!

[leaden drift]

I wasted like 6 on batteries cause I wanted esthetic production

[nova osprey]

v4? yeah if maxed depots

[hidden temple]

right, yeah on the roof
looks like I passed a little more to the east

[digital mirage]

what is v4?!

[lucid python]

silly ahh power cycle

[leaden drift]

Just cause

[nova osprey]

valley IV

[digital mirage]

no for real help me out, i dont need those anymroe once im at xiranite right

[sour night]

We dont talk about useful stuff, i made a factory in valley pass for making infinite seeds, plants and powder to max out in depot

[digital mirage]

this sub pac wants buck C or something

[leaden drift]

Not really

[crystal herald]

true... but imagine lifeng with ulti easy gives 3 stacks

[empty pulsar]

this weird looking fridge completely eliminates the need to make space for input belts toward the main AIC/loaders, its kind of bullshit

discovered this way too late and had to renovate 90% of my factories

[nova osprey]

my god.. i am copying this

[vapid granite]

Ah shit what the fuck Yahzen makes seeds in different amounts tf

[nova osprey]

that's beautiful

[empty pulsar]

surely they wont nerf protocol stash

[leaden drift]

Im working on condensing xiranite production

[lucid python]

artificing is so cooked once you run out of limited...

[nova osprey]

mhmm yeapp

[nova osprey]

that's why you go for the non limited first

the 40 stock

at least

[sour night]

Nice, i still have to fill my 2 other sub pacs in valley 4 with something

[nova osprey]

like you'll be behind others but in the end you'll get ahead

[vapid granite]

Is this just a buckberry/Sandleaf stockpile?

[lucid python]

but I need to be #1 laevatain

asap

[leaden drift]

Ima work on maxing every material that is farmable

[empty pulsar]

idk if u can call it a stockpile, it auto transfers the stuff to your main depot

[nova osprey]

unless you got pot 5 laev,, cant

[leaden drift]

I started down the farming path too

[empty pulsar]

again, protocol stash is OP

[nova osprey]

you finish the speedruns yet?

[lucid python]

i have p5p5 :3

[empty pulsar]

its so OP

[crystal herald]

have you beat recrisis in 120 sec?

[leaden drift]

Like terminating seeds n stuff

[nova osprey]

bro damn

okay then

[lucid python]

yeah by a lot

[empty pulsar]

protocol stash nerf when

[vapid granite]

Yeah for me thats what i meant, just stockpiling it all into the depot

[lucid python]

also stocking on ginseng and citromix rx for the future

[empty pulsar]

ah yea then

[leaden drift]

I need to work on restocking my purple stuff

[empty pulsar]

magical wireless transfer to your main depot my beloved

[leaden drift]

Gonna make a very bad setup that moves on to the next item after maxing

A slower production

[main bluff]

Can't Steel Bottle be filled with Xiranite?

[dawn plaza]

is there a way to entirely disable seeing people's structures? they keep getting in the way of me putting my ziplines

[nova osprey]

uhh iirc i brought full ultis, popped damage buff on laev, and ulti gain efficiency on ake and antal (wulgard optional)

started fight with antal skill
then wulfgard skill + combo + antal combo

laev ult, antal ult, then ake ult + laev boosted skill

then proceeded with the fight regularly xD

I don't think i did it that optimally, i could have made it faster, but this should be enough to clear 120s

[dawn plaza]

sad

[leaden drift]

The only way is to delete them

[empty pulsar]

usually I use ferrium bottles

the formula wants them too

[nova osprey]

my god man you are insane xD

but nice job

[leaden drift]

My favorite map tho is power plateu for ziplines

[lucid python]

dude that one zipline that blocked one of the jump pads in power plateau causing you to fall to your death every time was MEAN

[leaden drift]

I have been able to go out of map so many different ways there

[nova osprey]

sorry

jk that wasn't me but i have done similar

[cedar bay]

I kind of had to hack the last one into my base but it works.

[nova osprey]

lollll

i had a zipline, where if you took it, and got off there, would kick you off the cliff

[crystal herald]

whats your best atm?

[lucid python]

it made me laugh at least but I had to come from the opposite way to delete it LOL

[leaden drift]

10/10 zipline

[nova osprey]

cleartime? i didn't record it, thought the medal would record it but it didnt

[nova osprey]

thank you

[leaden drift]

I had a zipline that takes you to the ferrium nodes behind the gate in power plateu but theres an invisible wall stopping you from going to them

[nova osprey]

lmao

[crystal herald]

yea you can check the time in medal

[cedar bay]

Is it not possible to have 4 Bucka going at once?

[nova osprey]

only when you havent finished it, after you clear it, it will just show cleared without the timer

i didn't record it unfortunately

wow just wow

that is an insane laev

[crystal herald]

like this

[nova osprey]

i know, the timer goes away when you finish it 🙃

here one sec

[crystal herald]

you can retry it in recrisis

[lucid python]

you get a trim medal for this too btw

[nova osprey]

ya, imma go make food first though, its getting late

i'll ping you once im done

[nova osprey]

oh that i know, need a p3 weapon though

[crystal herald]

gaaaarrrrrly

[nova osprey]

that yours?

[crystal herald]

akeno's

[nova osprey]

ah

xD

[lucid python]

wait we have eachother added LOL

[nova osprey]

lmaooo

[lucid python]

i was like... why does that look familiar

[nova osprey]

you play arknights btw?

[crystal herald]

in your friend request list lol

[lucid python]

I did long time ago but hung it up

[silent violet]

you popping geo for sanity?

[lucid python]

zero

[nova osprey]

same, i remember playing cc and doing everything for all the trims though, im seeing your medal thing, and i just knew you were an og arknights player too xD

[crystal herald]

@lucid python how much have you spent?

[vapid granite]

Anyone know how to make this look more pretty

[lucid python]

REDACTED

[digital mirage]

wym spent like in the top up shop?

[nova osprey]

yes

[digital mirage]

i struggle to navigate that shop lol

[silent violet]

i assume you emptied out the crowns too?

[empty pulsar]

Make them symmetrical to start ig

[nova osprey]

they had to, they spent a total of 24 crowns

[lucid python]

it was actually pretty cheap for a gacha max copy, around 1/4 what I spend on avg in genshin/star rail but I did get pretty lucky

[nova osprey]

geez

wait nvm it's possible to get 24 without buying the bundle hmm

[crystal herald]

codashop?

[lucid python]

nah low key with how much I've spent on gachas I'm too worried abt the off chance I get banned

[digital mirage]

does thsi mean i should switch to HC at this outpost?

[lucid python]

vtuber commission star rail genshin and now ark knights wasted sm of my savings tho 😭

[silent violet]

i think you should go for p5 yvonne before her banner

u can be no1 yvonne

[lucid python]

https://tenor.com/view/nuh-uh-beocord-no-lol-gif-24435520

[nova osprey]

yes

[nova osprey]

how many yvonnes/angelinas did you get

[lucid python]

zero lol

[nova osprey]

damn seriously? all luck to laev ig

[lucid python]

p1 pog p1 lifeng p1 lr and p0 ember

[nova osprey]

that's kind nuts, you won a lot of 50/50s then

actually did you? i forgot there's guaranteed tokens

probably won quite a few though

[tight summit]

whats the max outputs for wuling batteries and syringes

[nova osprey]

12 and ~6

[tight summit]

gotcha ty

[empty furnace]

am i supposed to be able to fit 3 buck a and 3 purple batteries and still have an empty outpost left over or is using up all space for that normal?

[nova osprey]

ya

[lucid python]

iirc it was 360 pulls for 3 guarentees and 3 laev drops

[empty furnace]

ya its normal or ya i should have an empty outpost

[silent violet]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966

[nova osprey]

nice

[nova osprey]

normal

[silent violet]

how about 3 empty outposts

[nova osprey]

my god you are a bloody legend lmao

[empty furnace]

ok

so

i looked at it

and while its the most impressive thing ever i dont wanna use it lol

[silent violet]

yeah im not telling u to use it

im just saying it exists

[empty furnace]

true

ty tho for letting me know the chase for perfection is never ending

[silent violet]

mhm

[tight smelt]

top tier engineering

[silent violet]

also i think 18 hc + 15 bca is possible

but i dont have motivation to make it

[empty furnace]

haha

[silent violet]

18+18 is theoretically impossible because you legit dont have enough depots

[empty furnace]

fair

last week before i started looking up tips, i swore that even across all outposts and core there wasnt enough for 6hc+18BCA, yet here i am

learning still

[sand terrace]

What's the most useful plants to farm at the eco farms?

[empty pulsar]

Whatever you need based on ur usage

Adjust accordingly

Oh wait, eco farm

[nova osprey]

i do ginseng and citromes

[empty pulsar]

Idk

I dont do eco farms

My ass is too lazy

[nova osprey]

i needed to

[sand terrace]

Why citromes and not yahzen?

[nova osprey]

well more like really wanted to

[empty pulsar]

Momma didnt raise a farmer

[nova osprey]

I'm only making damage buffs

citromes for umbraline

[sand terrace]

ahh

[nova osprey]

infra side

honestly you don't even need that many ginseng so

could remove some after you're done

[lucid python]

once you get all mats farmed up that you need for buildings and whatnot, you can do 18 HC 18 buck As 24 canned citromes and like 4-5 carbon farms (for depot node missions)

[bright basin]

Can someone explain this

I have a 6/min producing battery farm. When I charge three thermal blanks with it, the factory gets clogged cause all the banks are full.
When I connect a stash with it, one of the banks does not receive enough batteries to run property. This results in my power dropping every few seconds.

[nova osprey]

it's the way your belts are set up. don't use a splitter

send a ss

[lucid python]

you can't plant wuling plants in v4 and imo food buffs are better to farm anyways so I do same, ginseng max plot in wuling and citromes in v4 to make citromix rx (neither of these are needed but saving for future speed runs / hard bosses)

[sand terrace]

What's the most potent atk recipe? Kunst tube?

[bright basin]

I'm just using a transport line

[nova osprey]

i use the ginseng one for damage, but kunst tube is good also

[nova osprey]

send a screenshot

[lucid python]

ginseng so cracked bc for some reason the base atk in this game from food buffs applies before all atk%s...

[nova osprey]

i make the perplexing medication for supporting units

[silent violet]

#1466274275240710245 message

copy the configurations shown

[nova osprey]

kundst tube isnt bad either, I actually wonder how they hold up

[sand terrace]

Jakub's legacy seems to be the highest flat +atk at 27

[digital mirage]

besides the stock bill stuff, whats a good thing to craft with leftover space in valley 4?
atm im doing trhe purple battery and heals as the outposts want

[nova osprey]

wait isn't jakubs % attack? i got them mixed up

[nova osprey]

not much honestly

[empty furnace]

ya, the gear mats in v4 are already outdated

[digital mirage]

ther are no personal heals or anything i should be crafting? I can double dip into my purple buck capsules?

[sand terrace]

Yeah, just a flat +27% atk buff. Nothing else

[nova osprey]

dip into your buck a

[nova osprey]

ginseng is +180 attack and +11% crit iirc

[digital mirage]

maybe i can craft more buck A in my main pac then

[eternal marsh]

besides main core and belt unloaders, is there any other way to unload mats?

[empty furnace]

thats the one with fillet meat, then theres one with jincao powder thats 18% dmg increase and 9% crit

[sand terrace]

+9% crit and +18% atk

[nova osprey]

yeah i use the one with meat, not sure how they compare, i need to test

[empty furnace]

im pretty sure flat atk is better than the 18% increase dam

but i havent tested so dont quote me

[solid arrow]

guys anyone knows whats wrong with this? i made kyo 18 buck A, 18 HC battery base and this happens

[nova osprey]

pretty sure as well

[sand terrace]

Flat might be better till we get better gear

[empty furnace]

better gear will only make the flat even better

cuz better gear will have even higher Inc dam mods, making additional less effective

[sand terrace]

Hmm, crit might overtake it at some point.

[nova osprey]

idk how the damage is calced when buffa are included

we shall seee

[empty furnace]

the flat attack one has higher crit too lol

[nova osprey]

ya

the meat is the bottleneck to my experience

[lucid python]

do you have all ore veins, regional 11+, and filled each seeding unit with 50 or so?

[young stag]

clog somewhere

[sand terrace]

Yeah, but 27% atk or 18% atk + 9% crit.

[solid arrow]

i have all ore veins, regional 11

ill try to do the seeding thing though

do i fill it with seeds?

[lucid python]

sometimes if you don't put enough in each they get shorted

[solid arrow]

@lucid python

[lucid python]

the seeding units in between the two planting units you just fill with 50 of flower

can fill the others to be safe, but it should create infinite supply on all 3

supposed to be saving the world and I'm gonna burn it all down with greenhouse gasses

[vapid granite]

Anyone else know what else you can use the output of the Fluid tank for? I can only think of just leapfrogging the storage to other tanks

[shrewd knoll]

its for outside the AIC building for storing liquids

so you can pump some water out of some small capacity holes to access them

[vapid granite]

Dont get it

[river flicker]

is originium 420 yield max for valley 4

[vapid granite]

Ill just do a tutorial for it later

How do i put liquid in my backpack?

[vapid granite]

WAITT

Yes thats how im so smart guys

[nova osprey]

use cryston instead, saves you ferrium bottles

[shrewd knoll]

or you can click your empty bottles into the liquid storage and it fills up

by the stack

[vapid granite]

cryston?

[nova osprey]

yeah

[vapid granite]

I think i forgot what cryston is

[nova osprey]

amethyst + sandleaf

[dense blade]

funny how you can exceed cap

[nova osprey]

oh and it resets weekly

[vapid granite]

Could I use amethyst bottles

[nova osprey]

good to know

[nova osprey]

not sure, you can try

[dense blade]

for?

[vapid granite]

game doesnt even signify you could use other bottles

[vapid granite]

Making bottled liquid

[dense blade]

there are no amethyst in wuling

not in the current version at least

[nova osprey]

doesn't matter, you only need to bring a few for xiranite

[vapid granite]

Ey you can

[dense blade]

bottles are also used for syringes

and drinks

[nova osprey]

nice!

[vapid granite]

Yeah ill just piggyback my factory from Valley IV and hitchhike it back

[nova osprey]

it only works for using them in the sprayer btw, doesn't work with the meds

[vapid granite]

Yeah i was planning just for the sprayer

[nova osprey]

yeahh thought so

[vapid granite]

I was just curious

[ancient zinc]

Imagine using Severe energy as free exp farm for low lvl operators

[scenic comet]

holy thank yous, saved me 1 zipline, lol, it's great though, 1 less stop. also, what do you use to record on ipad?

[empty furnace]

whos got that poop location on the map?

[novel mason]

ah are thoust poopmaxxing?

[ancient zinc]

Try outshirts barrens

[empty furnace]

will check it out

found the little poop factories, ty

[ancient zinc]

Doo doo time

[empty furnace]

i hate that the pooping sound is so visceral lmao

[ancient zinc]

I feel jerk for using towers at Severe energy for my low lvl operators to gain exp without being hit back

I can even afk for abit while tower do the work

[modern sky]

Whats the best Buck capsule a farm that isnt slow as mine

[vapid granite]

One of my beginner sandleaf farms

Tis before i learned to crunch conveyor space and Protocol stash could bring to depot

[empty furnace]

wdym by as slow

[modern sky]

I keep waiting for one ingeredient

It feels not efficient

[ancient zinc]

Probably just using single production unit when it requires 2.1 ratio

[empty furnace]

thats what i figured but i thought he coulda just meant total yield lol

its honestly that simple. make sure your ingredients going in are enough to fill the formula. if its 10 seconds and needs 10+10 mats, you need to make sure 2 lines of each mat are going into it at full capacity

[oak kite]

does anyone have a good electricitylayout for Origin Lodespring?

[pliant bane]

my biggest profit thus far

[empty furnace]

wdym? like where to lead your relay towers?

[oak kite]

yeah

[empty furnace]

i didnt really put much thought into it. just went through putting them at 79m intervals, splintering off to grab ore

[sturdy flume]

how would I begin optimizing something like this? struggling to make this smaller and getting enough bottles

[oak kite]

I don't think that will do limit wise 😭

[empty furnace]

why not? im at 86/220 protocol

[oak kite]

oh wait

ig I have a lower limit bc I am not finished with the story yet

[empty furnace]

ah ok

i didnt power up a region til i finished the story in that region

[ancient zinc]

You might get some Chinese zil line guide if u really want those insane routes

[empty furnace]

probably wasnt efficient but its how i went through lol

[ancient zinc]

I saw 1 zip line route

[foggy elk]

Feels good man.

[brave vapor]

you can start rotating the machines and see how much you can get away with shortening the belt length

[sturdy flume]

ah yeah that would make sense, i assume theres no way to cleanly do it without making use of belt bridges everywhere?

[empty furnace]

dont moulding units need 2 lines of steel to make steel bottles at max efficiency?

or am i misremembering

[sturdy flume]

oh i didnt even catch that lol ty

[brave vapor]

belt bridges has their uses and they can be clean if needed

[ancient zinc]

It requires 2 to make 1 on moulding

[brave vapor]

but yes, likely some belt bridges will be used

[ancient zinc]

So 2 product unit belt

[brave vapor]

also that

was wondering why it was so small, forgor

[empty furnace]

i have 2 of these next to each other connected to a filling unit thats being fed dense buck directly

[sturdy flume]

i have altered it now so its a lot better ty

[empty furnace]

righto

[sturdy flume]

still nowhere near enough bottles tho so might have to double the input

[empty furnace]

ya its a lot of steelmaking. 6 bottles. 12 steel to make them. assuming youre going for 18/min bucka

[sturdy flume]

is this achievable with 1 filling unit? I assume not?

[empty furnace]

no i have 3 filling units

[sturdy flume]

ahh was gonna say.. this alreayd takes up like half of my infra station outpost lmao

[empty furnace]

haha, ya my dense buck loop and my bottles and my buck a filling units are all squeezed in tightly to my core by themselves pretty much

with some pure sandleaf powder generators

that was the only way i could make room for 3 battery making stations, 1 filling up each outpost about 75%

[rugged igloo]

My entire factory uses 2.3k power but it all suddenly shut down when I tabbed back in after a few hours. How can I get the energy back up without having to disconnect a lot? .. Manually mining Originium? (I don't have enough batteries yet)

[eternal marsh]

u can turn some stuff off

[empty furnace]

it most likely ran out of power due to the packaging machine making the batteries not running at full production. so if and when you do get some power back, make sure thats fixed so you dont run into the same problem

[rugged igloo]

Will try

[echo charm]

Wots optimal production on valley v?

[rugged igloo]

Thank you both

[empty furnace]

of course

[distant sphinx]

18/m (3 production lines) HC batteries and 18/m (3 prod lines) Buck A

[empty furnace]

you mean how much to make of each? its debatable i guess, but the general consensus is 18 BAC/m and 18 HCBats/min

[frigid whale]

Does anyone have a good blueprint for Infra-station full leveled?

[distant sphinx]

and 4 lines of citrome C

[empty furnace]

whats that yield?

24/min?

[distant sphinx]

6/m *4 = 24/m

[empty furnace]

so its an extra 350k bills every 24 hours. not bad, but im not gonna redo my whole valley to make room for it lol

[rigid stump]

What happens if i exceed the 200 power output?

[empty furnace]

you die

[echo charm]

Hmm need to get to 11 atleast to mine 800+ fe. Oh well no rush

[empty furnace]

jk everything pretty much turns off after you run out of battery

[empty bane]

guys i am not getting enough ferium ore, how do i maximise it?

[graceful lark]

How many Forge of the Sky can I use after unlocking the AIC Plan the increases the amount I can use?

[ancient zinc]

2

[nova osprey]

v4 or wuling

[ancient zinc]

You can make as many as much forge sky

But ur limit is 2/2

[rigid stump]

So i should never exceed the power output of the PAC?

[graceful lark]

Then how do I increase it further?

[empty bane]

v4 currently still in the power plant misson havent started it, wanted to complete the side missionz

[empty furnace]

correct

[nova osprey]

you dont

[ancient zinc]

Thats the twist..

You CANT

[graceful lark]

This limit's a bitch

[nova osprey]

you have 100k reserve energy, you run out, everything turns off

[teal knoll]

why is it telling me this?

[empty furnace]

you wait until feb 7 and hope they unlock more aic upgrades that say you can

[empty bane]

shit... meaning i am stuck at 190 yeild till wuling?...

[nova osprey]

depot bus or forge of sky

[ancient zinc]

Unless Devs updates come with new additions

[nova osprey]

we're only getting events on the 7th

[empty furnace]

oh

true

next msq when then

[nova osprey]

1080 is max yield for v4 side, sorry forgot to respond

[ancient zinc]

Banner

[nova osprey]

and banner

[nova osprey]

we might get one on 12th

not sure if it is but looking at the calendar, it's something that's not an event, i think

[empty furnace]

sick

[mortal cipher]

Whats the highest hc bat and buck capsule A rate you can achieve?

[lucid python]

18 18 24 canned citrome

[empty furnace]

im at 1020/1080 ferrium usage at 18 and 18, idk how much more you can pull out of that. maybe get one to 21?

[fluid furnace]

Just asking but don't you get the same stock bill earnings if you make bottles compared to buck C?

[graceful lark]

HOW THE HELL ARE YOU YIELDING 190 XIRANITE??

[empty furnace]

i dont think hes talking about xiranite if he said "til wuling"

[graceful lark]

Ah, my bad

Me and my reading comprehension

[marble yarrow]

yes but amethyst bottle can easily accumulate at the base. you can 50% bottle 50% meds

[empty furnace]

reading comprehension curse always be striking

[fluid furnace]

I see

[graceful lark]

Then 60 is the max Yield for Xiranite then?

[ancient zinc]

I keep making green batteries since it keep hitting my 80k limit

[empty furnace]

if thats what 2 lines are, then ya 60

[undone ether]

he's talking about ferrium

[graceful lark]

Yeah, I realized that

[inland ruin]

whats the Valley 4 regional originium cap?

[pallid sparrow]

How to I increase my regional development level faster?

[crystal herald]

560

[robust widget]

do quest, upgrade stock distribution, upgrade depot nodes and recycling station

the level of your sub pac also give regional develepment I think

[pallid sparrow]

Ok ty

[undone ether]

Lv4 outposts, lv4 Depot nodes, lv4 stock distribution nodes, Lv4 recycling stations, quests, and miners on all nodes

[scenic comet]

yo wth is even this. all-in-1 V4 https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466662291377487966/1467108257591197706/image.png?ex=69827a4a&is=698128ca&hm=0a6d1da5e26a36205a7c78a5c521d9a184e2cb4b5d56bf7e96d2ffb55e6fdceb&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1163&height=1160 😭

bro said i don't need outposts

[empty furnace]

is that the guy who has 12/min and 18/min all in the core?

the local legend

[late zodiac]

Yo...

[scenic comet]

yeah it's this guy https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466662291377487966 the real tragedy is this doesn't even cap ur stocks.. you need 1 more bat generator in an outpost

[undone ether]

Yeah thats 12/m and 18/m. At least when looking at just the final lines

[empty furnace]

that blueprint is in the blueprint discord, i forgot guys name

he was in here earlier

he stunted on me when i asked a question

[buoyant current]

what do I do now that I've maxed out my valley 4 outposts and core AIC upgrades? Is there any reason to really care about them?

[empty furnace]

to care about what? the outposts and core aic?

yeah making stuff to sell for big bucks

[thorn nacelle]

anyone else only have 7 towerrs built but it tells you have 8??

[viral oriole]

Fucking rookie

[crimson inlet]

do the ABCs

• sell buck A
• produce hc Batteries
• make Chen farm jincao.

[loud willow]

does this mine originium and amethyst faster

[brave vapor]

No

[edgy cradle]

For steel production, what should the 3 slots give?

Sorry if that's a stupid question

[left bear]

what can i do with this space leftover

[brave vapor]

you can move the core and maybe fit in another production line

[edgy cradle]

@brave vapor

[robust widget]

what blueprint is that for?

[edgy cradle]

Steel production

[brave vapor]

check the recipe for steel.

[forest crow]

can anyone explain why all maxed factories have a ton of space on the center. is it ineffecient to place in the center or something?

[obsidian lichen]

is there a point to developing farm lands

[edgy cradle]

Wow thanks

[heady tide]

what am i even looking at

[brave vapor]

i tend to build my factory line off to 1 side and stretch it to copy paste, so idk really

i dont use shared blueprints, or even the tutorial one

[forest crow]

I dont really want to either ngl 😭

but at the same time

I dont wanna waste my time making something that's not the best

[left bear]

not sure what production line would even fit there tbh

[forest crow]

but I'll cross that bridge when I get there

[brave vapor]

suffering builds a house or something

either way, its a good way to practice building

[forest crow]

I got a bit to go anyway

I just finished the main story

[brave vapor]

unless you already passed the factorio grade, then this is a gacha game, so dont stress it

[forest crow]

so I got tons of side quests to do

[forest crow]

im more interested in factory than gatcha ngl

cause im f2p

so i dont have a way to get pulls

[brave vapor]

well, the valley max output is your hardest challenge for now

cause spoiler, wuling is hella basic

[inland ruin]

is there a orignium vein in this spot?

quarry in v4

[brave vapor]

maybe in the beta

now its all amethyst

[forest crow]

what is there to produce beside xianrite

or whatever it's called

[brave vapor]

exactly. only very basic xiranite stuff

and its only purpose is to reroll your gear for 0.1% extra stat

[forest crow]

[brave vapor]

while the factory sim is the most game you will find in the gacha genre, its still being developed behind a live service gacha game

[unkempt hamlet]

.1? Lol

It's pretty significant

[solid arrow]

guys i have a problem, i dont have any of this mats left to trade and im in late game already, what do i do?

[brave vapor]

i really do not care about number go up.

[vestal moat]

time to lock the fck in

and make better factory

[brave vapor]

the raw gear itself, has some cool effect

[vestal moat]

[solid arrow]

??

[unkempt hamlet]

Dont make a wrong statement lol it gives a lot of stats at max artificing

[vestal moat]

should've been cleared up

if this wuling we might understand but not that one

[empty furnace]

you gotta make mats to sell them

[solid arrow]

i have best valley IV factory, thing is it doesnt make any of this low level mats

[vestal moat]

[brave vapor]

thats great, i didnt even touch it and i cleared litterally everything in the game rn without even a 6 star

[vestal moat]

press X for doubt

[empty furnace]

ah so you ignored outposts til yuo finished msq and maxed out size, then went and got the best blueprints from the disc i assume

[vestal moat]

sounds like a you issue there ngl

[solid arrow]

basically

[gaunt osprey]

has anyone calculated how much stocks it takes to max out each outpost?

[empty furnace]

shoulda interacted with the game i guess? 🤷‍♀️

[vestal moat]

never pay attention ngl

[empty furnace]

gotta make a bad factory for a while i suppose since you didnt do it when the game told you to

[vestal moat]

they become lvl 4 in days

[vestal moat]

as i see it

its his own fault lol

buck a and HC cant be sold if ur outpost shit

[alpine patio]

The exp is the number of stock bills

[vestal moat]

[brave vapor]

theres a spreadsheet out there, but theres a simple output from your factory to cover that

[alpine patio]

What end game wuling factory looks like/produce ? Im currently only doing 12/m wuling batt

[brave vapor]

namely for valley its 18/18, 18 buck capsule a and 18 hc battery

[gaunt osprey]

oh i meant like expanding and depot buses my bad

like the cost

[brave vapor]

1.5 battery line, with 1 belt split off for battery and component

[vestal moat]

millions

done

there u go

thats the cost

[alpine patio]

Thats 9/m batt ?

[vestal moat]

[brave vapor]

roughly that much yea

[alpine patio]

Is it 9/m batt and 6/m yazhen syringe M

[empty furnace]

i dont remember exactly, but the last one, most expensive one, was like 2 million to fully upgrade from nothing? maybe? rough estimate from memory

but you def want to make sure stock and depots are all maxed before worrying about the last outpost at least

[brave vapor]

yeah, theres an alternative to yahzen but they both pay out the same, just different in healing effect

[empty furnace]

personally i think dont touch any factory upgrades til those other 2 are maxed

[gaunt osprey]

i have 2 mill saved up rn should i max upgrade my main hub first?

[nova osprey]

main hub is easiest, yes

[unkempt hamlet]

Run 1/9th of xirantite and 1/9th of originium cubes to make components and you should have enough for artificing restocks

[brave vapor]

max them all out before starting to setup the endgame factory line

[empty furnace]

assuming the depot nodes and stock shops are all max level already for you, ya id say main base first

[unique cloud]

What's the best way to get power going in Wuling? Just running the miners is taking most of my power before I get the facotry going.

[unkempt hamlet]

Wuling batteries, if u need to just transfer batteries from the ship

[empty furnace]

i threw a bunch of spare valley batteries into thermal banks after setting up my wuling batery setup

[unkempt hamlet]

For temp power and catching up to outpost

[unique cloud]

Oh, right you can take things from the old outpost

Guess I'm making a trip back

[gaunt osprey]

gotcha so priority is depot nodes and maxing stock shops then max out main hub then outpost?

[unkempt hamlet]

If you u have option to do mouse keyboard u can transfer 5k batteries in 2 min from ship

[brave vapor]

take some valley battery over, make some xiranite then xiranite battery

[empty furnace]

in my opinion, yes. the depots and stocks are the easiest early money to make and make it easier to upgrade your facilities

[gaunt osprey]

thanks a bunch!

[static isle]

a bit too bulky?

[empty furnace]

of course

[halcyon radish]

do it in dijiang

way faster

[static isle]

I kinda do my planting elsewhere

[vestal moat]

Dijiang :

bro forget me

[brave vapor]

if you wanna keep the depot for sandleaf, yeah stretch it out instead

[unique cloud]

Can you transfer depots in Dijiang?

[halcyon radish]

yeah press B

you'll see it

[unique cloud]

I must have blown through a pop up

I'll do that

[vestal moat]

[static isle]

how high can metastatic transfer get you in Wuling in terms of ferrium

1500/hr right?

[empty furnace]

is there any reason you dont want your xyranite to just be self-looping and detached from unloaders?

[empty furnace]

yes

[static isle]

my planting loops are all elsewhere

[empty furnace]

gotcha

[static isle]

so 25/min
that gets us to 115/min so we're short 5

[brave vapor]

theres a bunch of space currently in wuling, i think its fine to do planting loops elsewhere then depot to somehwere else

[empty furnace]

yup

[static isle]

5/min = 7.2k/day

perfectly doable from Dijang

[empty furnace]

someone also said something earlier about just metatransferring 1500 steel bottles instead

[static isle]

that's like what
4 backpacks?

[empty furnace]

which obviously equates to a lot more than 1.5k ore

i think 1.5k is one backpack

[static isle]

1.75k

4 and a bit more

[empty furnace]

damn you cant even transfer one whole backpack worth in an hour using metastorage? the ship needs some upgrades

[brave vapor]

the metastorage dupes the ores, while manually transfer means yiur eating into your ferrium reserve

[static isle]

metastorage is essentially 3d printing

[empty furnace]

true but even the regular transfer is the same cap

[brave vapor]

i just prefer not doing manual labor, plus 18/18 over in valley alr eats up perfectly as much as you make in ferrium

[static isle]

I'm doing 12/18 in V4 for this lmao

[empty furnace]

i still have 60 yield leftover in valley after 18/18

[static isle]

how?
18/18 should be all she wrote

[empty furnace]

i wonder where im fucking up, but nothing is sleeping or getting clogged or dying on me so im not gonna look

and nothing is in the red in terms of usage

[brave vapor]

100% some lines are missing some process

[empty furnace]

fine ill go look lmao

[static isle]

18/18 should be 100% ferrium capacity

[brave vapor]

either way, if you still havent dry up the outpost, eating into valleys profit is a valid strat

but what wuling offer is alr enough to dry up the outpost, so no need to push it further really

also again, manual labor to keep it up

[static isle]

yeah it's just about that 30/min deficit to keep syringe running smooth

[empty furnace]

ah shit, i know what the problem is but idk where. something is pumping out ferrium powder to refine into ferrium instead of ferrium ore. its probably an aic somewhere i forgot to swap over

[static isle]

idk why devs only gave us 90 instead of 120 when it doesn't affect gear production that much

[brave vapor]

it does affect gear rerolling, cause it means you can divert some xiranite back to making component instead of battery

[lilac steppe]

is there a way for me to not have my originium and ferrium not be depleted?

i was thinking just stopping everything im doing so they can go up to max capacity

[brave vapor]

if lets say, they add 30/min worth of ferrium into wuling

[static isle]

xiranite is not dependent on ferrium

[empty furnace]

I CANT FIND IT

[static isle]

ferrium is a stock bill driver

xiranite components run on originium

[brave vapor]

but the batterys only goal is also to make money

[empty furnace]

I FOUND IT

[gloomy abyss]

Does anyone have a blueprint for wuling so I can farm stock bills without having to unlock any more space in the factory?

[brave vapor]

stop using too much

[static isle]

#1461542035617091681

@gloomy abyss look there

[empty furnace]

ok ya now im at 1080/1080

[static isle]

rn we're having far more components than we have bills even with guys doing manual shit to get to 120

so just give us 120
it's not affecting progression speed

[queen forge]

how do you access this metastorage thing at level 12 regional level?

[static isle]

just start transferring
it will say metastatic

[brave vapor]

then, you can divert it back to battery for outpost to take advantage of all that gear

and then go back to 18/18 in valley

[queen forge]

uhh sorry. what do you mean by transfering? is that the Protocol management thing?

[static isle]

again, battery is not gated on ferrium either

wuling bats still runs on originite

not ferrite

[brave vapor]

i really think its an important balance desicion that wuling is like this

[static isle]

the only gate 90 ferrium is for is syringe production

[empty furnace]

isnt battery gated by xyranite tho

[brave vapor]

the ferrium can either be low level battery, or do the exact same point as overmaking battery, to trade for cash

[static isle]

what
you're proposing making V4 bats in Wuling and sell all Wuling bats?

[brave vapor]

if you get to make more syringes, you dont have to worry about battery that much, and instead focusing on lowering it to make more gear

[proven musk]

It's amusing to me; my power consumption in Wuling is just slightly above 1 battery fed generator
So I solved it by burning coal (originium ore) again, just a single generator running off the ore directly to get my power to be balanced

[brave vapor]

some people do that just because they want to maximize xiranite usage

[static isle]

one perfect Wuling bat fac = one Xiranite line
one half-powered component line = one Xiranite line

we have two (two forges)

that's it

[brave vapor]

not hc bat one, but just enough to keep it running

[static isle]

one perfect xiranite fac produces 4 bats but you only need 2 for wuling power purposes as of now

so you'd already be selling off half

[brave vapor]

well, splitter the component line over to another battery line

if you dont care about comp

i just did this, because my component is building up and my outpost is starting to stockpile

[static isle]

the only thing ferrite is gating is the ability to have one proper half-powered syringe line

[brave vapor]

which, again, directly correlates to trading in the outpost

imagine this, you make enough syringes to just empty the outpost

[static isle]

you don't even with 120

[brave vapor]

what does the battery really do outside of powering your base

[static isle]

even with selling half batts

[brave vapor]

imagine

[static isle]

the only way to empty Wuling rn is half syringe + double batts with no comps

and again the batts would be the issue, not the syringes

[lilac steppe]

i could probably solve the ferrium problem, not sure about the originium
thanks tho!

[brave vapor]

yes, that is what is happening right now but imagine a hypthetical, where you can make syringes to empty the outpost

[static isle]

if gating is just "make you do some tedious manual labor" then it's not gating it's just annoying players

[proven musk]

I'm feeding 1.33 belts of xiranite to battery making
And then the rest is split between components and keeping me stocked with ~300 Xiranite bottles, when bottles back up the components take the rest of the belt

[brave vapor]

no one is forcing you to lower valley output, and do manual labor in the gamemode all about automation

[proven musk]

The xiranite bottle production stealing bottles from syringes too... temporarily while using bottles for whatever purpose

[static isle]

again, giving us 120 instead of 90 doesn't get anywhere near that point
it just saves headache
it doesn't meaningfully speed up production

[brave vapor]

your still stuck thinking that battery is important cause its the main way to trade with the outpost

[nova osprey]

near what point

[static isle]

the point where syringes alone can clear outpost

[nova osprey]

[empty furnace]

can you clear outpost at all in wuling rn?

daily i mean

[brave vapor]

if we trivialize the outpost via a bunch of ferrium, it would result in the xiranite itself slowly but eventually becoming useless also, cause the outpost can only make as much money as you can trade with them

[brave vapor]

you can, 1.5 worth of battery production

[nova osprey]

yes and have leftovers for components

[empty furnace]

oh

im making 6/min meds and a half batt line, so i guess thats 3/min? so i need to get my compnents off and move xira to another battery and have 9/min?

[solemn jacinth]

you need to stay with only 1 powerbank, have 10 batt per min and 6 syringe per min

the rest of the xiranite goes into components

[brave vapor]

and again, no one is forcing you to manually move ferrium over, you chose to do this when most people i bet are just managing wuling without moving ferrium and keeping 1080 ferrium usage in valley

[solemn jacinth]

this is basically wulin golden ratio

[proven musk]

Shame we can only hit 115/120 ferrium ore counting the importing
Just barely shy of a full rate syringe production line without manual intervention

[empty furnace]

i just swapped from being a double med wuling abuser and manually swapping to a passive 1080 triple triple valley user

[nova osprey]

inb4 the ones who move shit start manually burning out faster

[brave vapor]

all you really need to do is to look at the bigger picture for the sky forge limit

theres a limit there, because theres a limit on what you can do with it, it's just enough to get by to atleast teach you to ratio your limited shit

and actually fucking gave the splitter a reason to exist outside of thermal banks

[somber briar]

Wuling gear is running at 50% efficiency right?

[tight summit]

whats the max yield for canned citrome

[brave vapor]

depends

[solemn jacinth]

my wulin gear is runnin at 1/6

1K components a day is more than i can use anyway

[brave vapor]

if you gambled the stock exchange and won, you might actually want to divert all the xiranite over, keeping just enough to keep your factory running

assuming you like gear rerolling

[somber briar]

Wuling battery is eating one xiranite factory

[somber briar]

There is a crisis on my wuling, everyday the price barely change

[brave vapor]

the base use up roughly 3/min, 1 xiranite battery line makes 6, so if you wanna take the risk you can split up the xiranite line from the battery over to component

[somber briar]

3/min?

Mine use like 1.5/min

[brave vapor]

if you just want profit from the outpost, you can cut the component down as much as you want via splitter shenanigans or just dont at all and build a second battery production

[brave vapor]

if your only using 1 thermal bank to power your base, thats better

[somber briar]

Splitter?

[brave vapor]

Belt Splitter

[somber briar]

Oh

[inland ruin]

how much buckwheat does a standard infinite loop generate /min?

[somber briar]

30?

How many seeding unit

[brave vapor]

the planter loop, regardless if its wuling or not, makes 1 belt full

[loud willow]

does anyone have a blueprint for the infra station with a depot bus and no area expansions?

[inland ruin]

2 planting, 1 seeding

[somber briar]

Yeah that should be 30

[thick otter]

Do u guys use 2 thermal bank for wuling?

[scenic comet]

can someone spot check my wuling factory guide and make sure nothing is glaringly wrong (aside from the lack of memes) https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1468057352145080615

[ancient zinc]

I lost something part of me @brave vapor

[brave vapor]

you lost your virginity?

[ancient zinc]

No…

The zip line

[marsh isle]

How many stock redistribution in Valley IV?

I believe it's 3

[autumn estuary]

Yall i gotta be honest who builds loaders at their depot😭

I mean ain't a compact stash does the same thing?

[digital fractal]

hi guys i have 2 types of liquid being produced by the crucible but only 1 type is coming out at any 1 time am i doing something wrong?

[brave vapor]

the stash is 3x3 and uses energy to do that, the loader is 1/3rd smaller and doesnt use energy

[tight summit]

less space but all the spots are usually taken by unloaders so

[autumn estuary]

But it kinda takes up a unloader space

[ancient zinc]

Just use the switch

[brave vapor]

it has a use, just that most people wants to treat depot spaces as like a 10 roll or something even though the game gives you a ton of space

[autumn estuary]

Unloaders are probs more valuable honestly🥀

[digital fractal]

sorry what do u mean? its like 3 am here so im kinda disoriented

[brave vapor]

the unloader is at the end more valueable

[autumn estuary]

Kinda wish machine to machine connection actually exist

[ancient zinc]

Word switch is literally about to bite you

[autumn estuary]

Like why do we even need a conveyor in the middle😭

[digital fractal]

but i alr have the 2 liquids running through tho wdym switch can u show me a pic?

[ancient zinc]

@brave vapor u deal with this

[hard panther]

how much aic xp should be getting in valley 4 off of recyclers?

[odd elbow]

do i really need to drain 40k of liquids? for this quest
its hard without the top down view and its roaming with enemies interrupting your building smh

[oblique bramble]

This genuinely gives me a headache

[brave vapor]

i am not a tutorial, tutorials don't judge others for using a blueprint and is not passive aggressive

[ancient zinc]

Wait till u need to refill with Xira back 40k too

[odd elbow]

no way

[thick plume]

Can you use seed thing on the firebuckle plant? or only the buckflower

[slim moat]

just leave one pump running and wait a day

[heady trellis]

Clear out enemys then build owo

[brave vapor]

rare plants can only be farmed, not made through a machine

[thick plume]

Ah ok

Im still new to the factory stuff but im slowly learning

[brave vapor]

dump the water somewhere else, the pump isnt magical and just deletes the fluid for you

[oblique bramble]

Huh

Man i didn't even know you could get water in this game

[heady trellis]

Well you can just dumb it in the back

There is a Small Lacke area where you can dump it into

[brave vapor]

p sure there was a quest invloving these 2 machine.

wasnt side either, main quest

[nova osprey]

super brief though

[brave vapor]

they still forced the gacha pl*yers to atleast place it down and not a brief pop up

[nova osprey]

https://youtu.be/mpeuR6fNeBs here. btw it's super sloppy, i could definitely shave off another 10 ish seconds if i played it right

[ancient zinc]

@brave vapor I saw a post someone dump Xira mix on river now I wonder the clean water he needs for both making syringes/ xira is still useable.