aic-factory

[pearl terrace]

From standard banner

[crude magnet]

my 1st 6 was ember then i got last rite

[ancient zinc]

I didn’t get any good 6* except Ling that I thought was SHE but HE

[sudden egret]

only 6* I don''t have from standard banner is Ember. First two I pulled was Lifend and

[crude magnet]

sameeeeee

[ancient zinc]

HE? HEEE?

[shrewd knoll]

sausage curse

[pearl terrace]

Mine was Lifeng from Horizon thing and Pog from Standard
Game really pushed physical on me

[crude magnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/femboy-outfits-7tv-sbUM2OFW4sRtcquxql

[pearl terrace]

Lost the 50/50 to Gilberta and got Laev at 120

[frigid breach]

How is xiannite electric pole and pylon different from normal ones

[crude magnet]

did they fix paypal alr? i wanted to buy monthly pass but last time i checked its still down

[crude magnet]

no need to connect wire, you just run

[pearl terrace]

Then did a 10 pull on standard and got Ardelia and Last Rite in single pull

[ancient zinc]

All i wanted was Ember for waifu meta but gave me Ling and turn me into ORE miner and Botanist

[tepid wigeon]

You don't need to manually connect them

[pearl terrace]

So yeah I’m eating VERY good

[shrewd knoll]

one is 5G and the other one is LAN

[sudden egret]

Wired vs Wireless

[frigid breach]

I can't connect xiannite to normal poles?

[shrewd knoll]

you use one or the other

[crude magnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/haveagoodday118-rudolf-symboli-LIZXHLVpyepUuhw59R

[sudden egret]

You can connect them that way, idk why you would use regular poles in Wuling though

[ancient zinc]

You don’t need to connect them…they are the ones connecting to each other

[sudden egret]

Xiranite is just superior in every way except range which it ties in

[stark minnow]

What do you put here and how do you acquire more power in the early phase of wuling?

[sudden egret]

What are we even looking at

[crude magnet]

water

[shrewd knoll]

you can chug originium ore in the thermal banks if you just need like a few more power points

[ancient zinc]

Origi ore : really?

REALLY?

[shrewd knoll]

yes really

[ancient zinc]

[crude magnet]

and bring hc bats from valley

https://tenor.com/view/skeleton-mad-skeleton-gif-10886506202898815019

[main summit]

im genuiely losing my mind. how do i reach this ferrium, i need it real bad

[ancient zinc]

Man…people forgets the very basic functions

[sudden egret]

Scan, and boom with explosives

[hallow summit]

Is this good?

[stark minnow]

1 hour transfer everytime lmao

[crude magnet]

go to left side, switch to a gun char or use grenade and throw it at them

[crude magnet]

wdym? just put it in ur inventory

[hallow summit]

You can destroy the ball with explode

[stark minnow]

Shit mb

[ancient zinc]

Use SCAN then Throw grenade thingy

[crude magnet]

just get 2 stacks or smth build ur factory and switch haha, dw

[round vine]

how do I make this more space efficient?

[shrewd knoll]

no, you build the 72 explosive per minute setup

or you dont do it at all

[main summit]

oh the explosive barrel right?

[crude magnet]

not efficient

[hallow summit]

Yes

[stark minnow]

Btw this water pipe seems to be connecting to something but whats that something

[main summit]

thank you

[hallow summit]

Ah no

[ancient zinc]

Nah..the ones with u all the time

[stark minnow]

Its an empty pipe

[hallow summit]

If you have item explode

[crude magnet]

build a pump at the river, then connect it to the pipe

[sudden egret]

First, go tall not wide. Secondly, think pyramid when optimizing space

[main summit]

uh...

[round vine]

whats wrong with it?

[stark minnow]

And then?

[main summit]

what's that

[ancient zinc]

[crude magnet]

i mean ur technically wasting 1 bus if ur trying to be efficient

[ancient zinc]

Post this on FLEX not here

[main summit]

look i know. no need to rub it in

[raw geyser]

There's a channel for that ?

[severe mica]

took me three days to get lev

[ancient zinc]

#salt-mine-gacha-flex

[sudden egret]

I'm here to talk factories, not get flexed on for someone 10000x luckier than me

[stark minnow]

Flex your iq for knowing this place isnt for flexing 🙂

[crude magnet]

this is mine no bus needed

[tired parcel]

It feels weird to leave this spot empty... Any idea?

[raw geyser]

damn really ? what are the odds though ?

[severe mica]

how many aic facility's are there i have 4 now

[sudden egret]

No, if I flexed my IQ in this channel, I''d quickly become a gate keeping prick

[crude magnet]

ughh wait

[tired parcel]

Best to delete that post asap before u getting a warn

No kiddin i just got warned xD

[crude magnet]

this is what my aic looks like

[raw geyser]

i have a question, what's this thing ? 😭 i just started playing i have no idea, why it looks so complicated

[severe mica]

run a splitter and put back whatever was there

[sudden egret]

idk, whatever the odds are of getting hte 80th pull guarentee pity, vs first 10 pull. Then getting pity weapon vs odds of first 10 pull. So he won the 4% and 0.8% into 50/50 back to back

[hallow summit]

For me

[raw geyser]

thanks cluster

[ancient zinc]

This is what u need

Some block path will require this to destroy them

[tired parcel]

Its a 'motherboard' ahh design i love it

[main summit]

yeah im on it now

[raw geyser]

damn i never got this lucky in genshin man i love this game already

[main summit]

thanks nonetheless

[tired parcel]

U can put it in #salt-mine-gacha-flex however

[round vine]

yeah I saw this earlier but I wanna make my own design

[crude magnet]

@tired parcel

[sudden egret]

Yeah, if my math is right. I was being generous with 10k% I might have been off by a magnitude of order

[shut rover]

Is this too much

[ancient zinc]

At early stages it teaches you things…

But oh well people this day skip things

[raw geyser]

damnn it does look like that now :0, i have a question, how different is arknights compared to other gaccha games like i was playing the battle mechanics felt similar to wuwa and zzz, what's this factory system about ?

[tired parcel]

Well it was buckflower shredder in both empty spaces... I just figured one buck shredder = 2 powders AAAAAAA

[tepid wigeon]

Not enough buckA/min

[ancient zinc]

Push those Buck A

[raw geyser]

😭 holy moly

[crude magnet]

here's a better view

[tired parcel]

Factory is basically your resources for everything xd

[tired parcel]

Curious how u manage the corner .. show me xd

[shut rover]

Im gonna have to use plateu pac for another steel bottle production then

[crude magnet]

just a elongated buck c

[raw geyser]

i seee damn :0

[severe mica]

ok so do the left and right stuff instead. the belts are so slow i imaging putting the blue rocks on them would work better

[sudden egret]

Factory is how you get Gear mats, and regular healing items
Along with thigns to get stockbills for, which enable better odds in the RNG stuff

[shut rune]

how do i power up a zipline pylons/towers?

[main summit]

i genuiely cant be bothered. the ammount of handholding this game provides makes me feel like im in kindergarten so i just skip everything and do it the satisfactory way

[tired parcel]

XD

[crude magnet]

@tired parcel this fits perfectly at the corner

[shut rover]

I have so much steels i could sell steel bottle

[sudden egret]

Slap a relay/pylon next to them and make sure the network is connected...the game literally taught you this

[severe mica]

i deleted my whole factory in order to make nothing but purple batteries and let me tell you it was a mistake

[round vine]

wouldn't this design be less future proofed since it takes more space?

[crude magnet]

no since there is nothing more to valley

[brave vapor]

if you didnt left behind an emergency battery line, then yeah, it would

[shut rover]

Crashing your whole main aic and sub pac is always a bricked situation

[round vine]

but wuling isn't complete yet

[tired parcel]

Hmm wanna see mine? Its literally "tryingtomaximizeeveryspacefordepotunloader" design xD

[crude magnet]

soo what corelates with valley and wuling?

[sudden egret]

Wuling is its own thing

[round vine]

cuz its xiranite?

[round vine]

[shut rune]

dumbge

[frigid breach]

Maxed outpost defense and 2/3 operator traits or no outpost but 3/3 operator trait for stock bill

[severe mica]

is wuling where the water pumps come into play

[shut rover]

I have the most unoptimised space just to produce tons of batteries and steel

[crude magnet]

bro i think you are thinking of 2 different things i'll let you think about it first

[sudden egret]

Yes

[round vine]

I mean correct me if i'm wrong but you can only produce xiranite in wuling

and your design is for xiranite

[crude magnet]

we are in valley tho

[crude magnet]

bro thats buck c

[shut rover]

Im gonna need another place to produce more buck a

[tired parcel]

I mean... Like u see that 2 empty depot unloader? XD

[round vine]

buck c looking different

[crude magnet]

asdjaskdjaskjhdakjsd

[round vine]

this is the msg I replied to btw

[crude magnet]

i can send u mine cluster if ur in asia it uses all depots

[crude magnet]

ahh shi mb bro

hahahaha

[round vine]

[crude magnet]

okay lets repeat the

conversation

let me mental reset

so okay please explain what you were saying

[ancient zinc]

I see ur a man with spaces

[round vine]

Ain't that design less future proofed since you won't be able to fit more than 2 more sky forges with how chonky it is

[severe mica]

i forget the original image but there was anothere product to the left and right . just add the same machine and another belt and snake it over the the same input as the others and it will be fine

[round vine]

I'm trying to use depot buses to remove having to put the planters and seed pickers in the chain

[crude magnet]

cant i just copy paste?

[round vine]

[sudden egret]

Honestly, don't worry about future proofing Wuling right now

[tired parcel]

Lemme try to compact everything so i might end up with 2 straight empty depot

[sudden egret]

Future proofing Wuling is simply not gonna happen

[crude magnet]

i mean you could be right but i wouldnt mind redoing the base + theres still tons of space + we'll probably get more sub aics

[round vine]

Yeah but you won't be able to copy paste as much since you won't have space to copy paste

[sudden egret]

There's presumably a bunch more content for Wuling that'll fundamentally change Wuling base design

[brave vapor]

even if it is considered "chonky" do you really think hg is gonna make wuling a harder place to fit stuff in compare to valley

[round vine]

I mean there's definitely gonna be more sky forges for sure

[dry dragon]

so at the moment in wuling it's 2 wuling batteries + 1 yazhen syringe with metatransfer right?

[tired parcel]

That's a lot of grinder

[round vine]

I doubt wuling is forever gonna be 2 sky forges

[sudden egret]

If your plan is to forego gear, then yeah

[brave vapor]

it's the simplest way to think about it yeah

[crude magnet]

but then again look at valley, theres still bunch of space for aic + i think wuling is 80x80 but time will tell we will never know

[marble yarrow]

yeah. all that for this

[brave vapor]

simply split 1 line of xir from the battery to xir comp

[dry dragon]

yeah not sure when to stop with gear, at 20k now

[crude magnet]

wow fences

[ancient zinc]

@crude magnet btw…remember artifacting those lvl 70 gold gears?

Imagine if Devs adds new sets

[round vine]

Idk, future proofing is just a basic mindset to have in factory games

so ig old habits die hard

[somber briar]

All that damn fluid still useless

[sudden egret]

When you have enough to fully max the gear in a team of 4...which to guarentee it is roughly 100 pieces of gear per slot per person. Costs 50 for each piece of gear

[crude magnet]

i only artificed 1 gear, they will probably make lvl 90 gear or smth like that

[brave vapor]

i mean it's a good habit, just that were playing a gacha game with a factory tacked on, not the other way around

[ancient zinc]

I can’t imagine those people who max artifacting those gears

[brave vapor]

the "gold" standard for valley output isnt hard to do at all

[somber briar]

So 20k guarantee a max gear for one char

[round vine]

then I take my design as good enough then

[sudden egret]

Future proofing in a factory game is a struggle concept tbh. Like in factorio there's not much future proofing you can do, since better tech will make it better for you to scrap your base and start again

[round vine]

[round vine]

You scrap your base if you're bad

[brave vapor]

i can't imagine them making wuling harder when most gacha players that are most likely spending is complaining that the factory part sucks

[round vine]

I've never had to scrap my base in factorio just cuz I got better tech

[ancient zinc]

Guy : sure

Starts copy save BP

[sudden egret]

In Factorio: Space Age? Nah you scrap your base to use the new better tech because it's better in every capacity

[round vine]

you pre plan hundreds of hours ahead

[sudden egret]

Mining? Scrap regular miners for big miners, literally faster and more efficient

Your main base? Scrap your smelters for a foundary, bceause it's just better

in every capacity

[round vine]

I played space age heavily modded + evolving biters and I never once had to scrap my entire base

[shut rover]

How much buck a per min is actually a good production rate

[brave vapor]

the old line can just exist along with the better line tbh

[sudden egret]

The only "Future proofing"" you do in Space Age is planning your defense from biters

[brave vapor]

no need to actually scrap it per say

[round vine]

it's not scrapping

you're misusing the word

[sudden egret]

I''m not saying you scrap it all at once. You systematically replace each section

[round vine]

upgrading? sure ofc

upgrading is not scrapping

[sudden egret]

You scrap each section, and rebuild it

[round vine]

scrapping implies you wipe the slate clean to start over again

[shut rover]

I dont scrap my base because i dont have a reason to (although i need more space for a second steel bottle production)

[sudden egret]

[brave vapor]

this guy is perfect for managing a factory ngl

[round vine]

it just feels bad to me to have to scrap/redo bases

[sudden egret]

I've built, demolished, and reubilt V4 enough times

I reached my goal, so now I'm done

I'm not touching V4 factory ever again

[somber briar]

Building v4 is easy tho

[sudden egret]

Unless I need to make bombs or some shit

but I'll just do that at one of my two obselete AICs

[somber briar]

Once you know how stuff works, its just plug n play

[shut rover]

I probably need more ori ore to make more ori powder so i can make more dense originium powder

[brave vapor]

endfield doesnt give you a giant sandbox to experiment and "grow attatched" to your original base, i think it's p intentional to scrap your base in favor for the eventual lategame

[sudden egret]

Only way I end up scrapping my V4 Main PAC + singular AIC, is if some new tech comes out that fundamentally adjustst how building a base works

otherwise, there is 0 reason and 0% chance I change it

[round vine]

mb for treating the game like a game

[somber briar]

If you somehow grow attached to your base, just record in on a blueprint called my very first base

[round vine]

always found it weird treating gacha game as a second class game but play it everyday

[shut rover]

Im out of depot bus space to use

[fringe geode]

WHY CAN'T IT FIT
WHY DOES THE REFUGEE CAMP HAVE SUCH LITTLE PROTOCOL CAPACITY

[round vine]

you'd think a game you play everyday would be treated equally to other full games

[shut rover]

Can wuling depot bus be use in v4

[brave vapor]

i never said it wasnt, the factory part is the most game ive ever seen from the gacha genre

[ancient zinc]

No

[shut rover]

Damn

[ancient zinc]

Wuling lock item

[sudden egret]

Wuling items are Wuling exclusive

[shut rover]

I might have to use plateu sub pac then

[brave vapor]

anything wuling related is not usable in valley

[somber briar]

Even if you can, there is not enough ore to utilize it

[shut rover]

Wdym

[hallow summit]

I ran out blue ore fast

[brave vapor]

90 ferrium and like 360 originum doesnt cover alot, along with the 2 sky forge lomot

[ancient zinc]

Pain

Until you know the ways

[brave vapor]

then again, theres like little to no uses for them

[round vine]

thoughts?

[shut rover]

Everytime i closed my eyes i see the factory

[somber briar]

Main base is enough to fully use every single ore, there is no reason to put wuling bus in v4

[sudden egret]

I just realized, is this using belt contollers?

[ancient zinc]

Every time I close my eyes I keep hearing ENTERING AIC

REAL SHHHHHHHHHHH#

[brave vapor]

looks good/10

[shut rover]

I do need them because ive used up all of my main aic depot bus

Im also using most of the depot bus to craft something else than just ores

[sudden egret]

Only thing I have coming out of Depots at my AIC and main PAC is ore, with an exception for like 3 things

[brave vapor]

all as in you maxed out the upgrades and you still manage to use them all?

[round vine]

am I missing any wuling stuff from it or do I got everything?

[shut rover]

Yeah

Its a shit factory

[brave vapor]

then you really need to reconsider how you approach building your factory

[crude magnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/satisfying-line-production-11LK0CKzYtkaic

looks good?

[sudden egret]

Question Merlin...you''re not using your depot to send out powders are you?

[brave vapor]

you quite litterally cover everything wuling has to offer in ores in a single screenshot, your bordering on flexing at this point ngl

[ancient zinc]

How terminator started

[sudden egret]

I''ve seen a lot of people send out powders from their depot, and that's a complete waste of space

[shut rover]

That just happened to be my far away dense ori powder

[sudden egret]

Make your powders on site

[crude magnet]

okay so when are you guys gunna actually find all chests ingame?

[sudden egret]

@crude magnet done

[young stag]

not really

[shut rover]

I didn't think i would have to make it like that because i was using it for bats until i got ferrium

[sudden egret]

fuck you mean not really? Always make your powders on site

[young stag]

i can make powders in an outpost and use them in my core aic

not enough space lma

[burnt peak]

i opened my youtube and saw this funky shit lmao
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWkXKl2fr8M

[young stag]

o

[burnt peak]

he really did it

[ancient zinc]

I’m doing it since I can spit it

[sudden egret]

I made it work, granted I''m more of an exception. The only powder that I extract out of any depot is the singular spare one that I make in my main PAC that I use in my sub AIC

[brave vapor]

you need to consider making 1 continuous line of factory instead of relying on the aic as a buffer

[young stag]

oh you meant like material powders

[ancient zinc]

Can feed 2 Grinder or other units who needs sandleaf powder

[shut rover]

Since most of my bats is on a different place i can scrap some of it and let lc bats dried up for the moment to rebuild everything

[young stag]

like originium and shit

yeah i do made them on site

[ancient zinc]

PETA :

[sudden egret]

@young stag Oh you thought I meant the consumables. No fuck no I''m talking facotires

[brave vapor]

the general push from the game, is depot spits out ore, and the only thing that gets exited are the finished product

[shut rover]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/802638873993150525.png?quality=lossless&name=Roxysad&size=480

[iron sinew]

It is finally optimized

[shut rover]

I'll do it tmr for main pac

[trail mirage]

I see green

[brave vapor]

the aic is not the ae2 network,

[sudden egret]

Not bad

[ancient zinc]

I see spaces

[shut rover]

Gotta stack some batts overnight

[iron sinew]

some space yeah but it's utilizing 100% materials rn

[frozen narwhal]

I'm going to hell for this shit

[runic depot]

redid my factory and is it not possible to go above 18 buck capsule A and 18 battery's without depleting Ferrium

[ancient zinc]

[iron sinew]

all of the Ferrium in the world

[sudden egret]

Just starting?

[brave vapor]

well yeah, thats why people say 18/18

[iron sinew]

.gethisass

[shrewd sigil]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/956086699983769600/1434277626914017310/Get_his_ass.gif?ex=6907bea1&is=69066d21&hm=bd40aabb5a87693f5187ff200edd75fe42ea895c26dcbf88ce2671422e4e2ed6

[frozen narwhal]

wish i could say that

[ancient zinc]

Poggers

[trail mirage]

You can always make more powder

[runic depot]

gotcha, well i will use my other 2 outposts for random stuff

[crude magnet]

are you snorting those powder or what?

[real nebula]

Wuling factory need guide here D:

what to do in wuling factory??

[ancient zinc]

Maybe start making other items which outpost needs

[trail mirage]

I'd drown with that much

[sudden egret]

@real nebula Whatever the hell you want. there's so much space to work with

[brave vapor]

setup the xiranite>get the battery to use and trade> just b urself

[runic depot]

yeah ima just max buck capsule C and just wait till next update i guess

[crude magnet]

make 60 xira/min make lc bat make syringe make xira component on the side

[real nebula]

xiranite?

[quick relic]

is 15 battery/min and 3 A capsule/min good? I've bought every upgrade, placed miners on all the resource spots, I should be making full use of all my resources

[trail mirage]

Nop

[brave vapor]

some people will even go further and just make the blue battery cause they really want to min max their xiranite

[real nebula]

Faaakkkkkk i need to do another tower relay agasin!?

[crude magnet]

nop

[real nebula]

[twin spire]

Chat someone tell me which components are actually useful

[sudden egret]

Xiranite relays are 10000x easier to use

Wired vs Wireless

[crude magnet]

component in what way?

[young stag]

and then there’s me

[brave vapor]

4 each for like those missions you do, just get to wuling

[young stag]

it’s so funny when you look at it in a birds eye view

[ancient zinc]

Why syringe go straight Jincao drink

16 vs 25 currency

[trail mirage]

I got a ton of space too

[frozen narwhal]

my ferrium bottle is going down instead of up

[sudden egret]

??? They''re literally equal

[quick relic]

how do you divide your dense originium powder cubes to your battery packeging units? right now I'm routing 2 belt lines of cubes to each

[trail mirage]

4 output

[ancient zinc]

I’m stealing them

[young stag]

man i wish we had protocol unloader

to pair with the protocol stash

[trail mirage]

3 brown 2 blue per purple battery

[brave vapor]

i wish we have oil cracking to further filter out the gacha people

[hallow summit]

Your ore

[young stag]

this way my shit wouldn’t be all huddled around the little depot buses i have

[ancient zinc]

I mean they require both same thing except the seed or leaf

[shut rover]

The wuling depot bus

[crude magnet]

i wanna gacha so baddddd give us new banners now pleaseeee

[young stag]

i don’t think we doing oil any time soon

[sudden egret]

@ancient zinc Yah, but stockbill wise, identical

[glossy nymph]

Chat the factory is growing too fast

[hallow summit]

I mean this game release 12 days ago

[young stag]

bcuz we all feed our stuff off of electricity

[frozen narwhal]

I might know the reason for this

[hallow summit]

Give them times

[brave vapor]

we have liquid pipes already, a man can dream

[ancient zinc]

Different is the price syringe is 16 while Jincao drink is 25

[glossy nymph]

I am not even kidding look!!!

[sudden egret]

@ancient zinc Our games must be different, but I'm literally staring at 16 for both, and 25 for bats

[hallow summit]

Man need chill just wait

Trust their process

[shut rover]

Is there two separate ferrium line connected to moulding unit because having two income guarantees a bottle every 2 to 3 seconds

[brave vapor]

flux network is better, pure wireless and goes up to 32 bit int transfer rate

[twin spire]

For like crafting items and stuff I’m tryna build the banner character better but idk which kit and stuff I should go for

[frozen narwhal]

uh
mayb not

[misty trellis]

I want yvonne so bad but i gotta wait for another 20 days or whatever 😥

[sudden egret]

Just means more time to save

[frozen narwhal]

Am I cooked

[crude magnet]

the red one hot something

[trail mirage]

Just hit the 7%

[shut rover]

You should do it because the same applies to steel

[young stag]

y so much ferrium

[frozen narwhal]

Yeah that might be a better idea

[frozen narwhal]

because blue

[hallow summit]

I don’t think that good

On armor

And kit 2

[misty trellis]

I just know imma get shafted like brax and get p5 laeva before 1 yvonne lol

[crude magnet]

even then this is the wrong chat + i just follow meta guides cause im a meta slave

[paper bane]

few more chest and im done colelcting at the hub

[hallow summit]

Ya she is damage dealer

[frozen narwhal]

I'm definitely bad at building

[hallow summit]

Same

[sudden egret]

That's ok. The game gives plenty of space you should be able to fully utilize the regions resources

Unless you're THAT bad and don't learn

[shut rover]

You should progress through the story more for more ferrium

[tired parcel]

LEZGOOO , got space now hehe

[hidden elm]

huh? is the ATK up even drop able

[hallow summit]

Ehh maybe go somewhere that haven’t explore

[sudden egret]

You'll get a 1/24 chance of getting the piece you want

[shut rover]

I am that bad and now im suffering from space deficiency

[brave vapor]

i'm not sure if it drops from the aic factory

[severe mica]

YOU WOULD CRY IF YOU SAW MY SET UP

sorry fro caps

[shut rover]

Gotta play the story first before exploring because area lock typa shit

[digital vessel]

is 18/min really the limit of batteries for valley 4? I am already burning through 6/min and still don't have enough power.

[frozen narwhal]

I did but I'm going crazy connecting relay towers

[tired parcel]

SHOW ME LOL

[hallow summit]

Ya also do side quest too

[indigo aurora]

guys i need an early battery syringe for wulling i need to make bucks i feel like im tappin i just got 30k from overnight only

[brave vapor]

place down more thermal banks than, you can use a splitter

[untold locust]

im trying to replicate XDDDD`s megabase but im always out of power and mats can someone help me fix the power problem?

[shut rover]

Lc bats

[tired parcel]

That seems like a temporal outage xd

[trail mirage]

Delivery

[indigo aurora]

i did one

[frozen narwhal]

I need tips

[severe mica]

no way im embarrassed

[indigo aurora]

i dont have enought for depot

[digital vessel]

I know I just don't want to use 5 thermal banks, but at this point I just got to

[indigo aurora]

i think

[trail mirage]

Do 3

[hallow summit]

Just 3

[indigo aurora]

i need depot lvl 2?

[shrewd sigil]

Once I build 500 bombs would it be okay to destroy it after

Like the factory for bombs

[crude magnet]

make more

[trail mirage]

You can take photos and srocks

[digital vessel]

just 3?

[hallow summit]

Ya

[brave vapor]

most people can use up to 5k energy, with or without ziplines, its fine

[shrewd sigil]

How much till it’s okay destroy it

[hallow summit]

It is enough

For get up 3k

[indigo aurora]

yea i did those

2

[crude magnet]

30k?

[indigo aurora]

and wasted money on stupid ugprade

[trail mirage]

[digital vessel]

I guess my operation is really innefiecient. do people just delete the town defenses after they complete auto defense?

it probably would save power

[hallow summit]

It for reward yes

[brave vapor]

yeah, if you really need the power than you can delete them

[hallow summit]

They do delete

[indigo aurora]

yea idk what to do im stuck

[trail mirage]

Minimizing relay towers also help

[sudden egret]

Once your TDs are complete, there's 0 reason to keep them around

[trail mirage]

Wait tmr

[hallow summit]

Same goes for easy sack

[indigo aurora]

i have 50k bucks rn that i got from overnighto nly

[brave vapor]

again, most endgame bases use up to 5k power, theres no real benefit of trying to ratio your thermal bank that much cause you can empty those depot with 18/18

[young stag]

guys rate my factory, pls be nice to him

[gray glade]

chen/10

[crude magnet]

ngl this has to be the best one i've seen so far

[digital vessel]

I guess I'll just have a bad factory, I don't want to copy other ppls designs and I don't know how to make it more efficient.

[hallow summit]

Same I’m not copy

[young stag]

throw everything to one side and do whatever on the other

[sudden egret]

Generally speaking, think pyramids

[gray glade]

you dont have to be 100% efficient so ypu can get away with some inefficiency

[sudden egret]

Most people go wide af, and forget they can go vertical

[crimson gust]

My factory is stuck... what do I do nowww...

[hallow summit]

Sack them all

[brave vapor]

if your doing the sandleaft dust getting 1 belt output, yeah you can fix some problems

[hallow summit]

And replace better

[crimson gust]

Howww

[brave vapor]

else your as efficient as everyone else tbh

[hallow summit]

Click blue print and select all

Sack it

You can rebuild to better

I always did that

When there mistakes

[digital vessel]

you can tell how messed up my factory efficiency is by my snadleaf stats

[crimson gust]

And my aic structure is sooo bad... I'm not getting it anyway

[hallow summit]

Ya you put too much

[sudden egret]

Thats...actually not that bad

[brave vapor]

it's not tripled, so it might be fine

[sudden egret]

I'm using 600/m of Sandleaf

[brave vapor]

if you show us your build, we can have better guesses if your base is actually shit or not

[sudden egret]

being 30/m over just means you're slightly unoptimized in that, but honestly not bad

[brave vapor]

or your just being schizophrenic cause you really want to make money from the battery

[hidden elm]

lol i just spent 360 sanity on a stage that doesnt have ATK up

[brave vapor]

damn, i didnt know the factory uses sanity

[crude magnet]

https://giphy.com/gifs/teamcoco-conan-japan-1zgPj8f0n4qDknZ3QB

[rain sundial]

is 2 wuling battery lines exactly 60/min xiranite usage?

[dull night]

I’d suggest even having a look at other people’s blueprints so you can get an idea of how things are put together etc and then you can always make it yourself in whatever way you like once you learn

[sudden egret]

Yup, that''s RNG for you. I'v'e spent probably 600 sanity trying to get the piece for Laev''s weapons...still no dice for all 3 atributes

[trail mirage]

Learn it yourself

[brave vapor]

1 xiranite battery uses 1 belt, 1 belt moves 1 item/2 second, i think the math adds up

[hidden elm]

no, i spent it on this stage, basically wasted 360 for nothing

[sudden egret]

Wait, were you not able to get all 3 atributes for your weapon at that spot?

[digital vessel]

I'm pretty sure most of my lines are as good as they come, I'm just very sloppy with keeping unused production lines and improper sandleaf supply around

[dull night]

I did. I was giving advice to a guy who sounded like he gave up on trying

[hidden elm]

no

[sudden egret]

Why are you still there

go to a spot where you can get all 3

[trail mirage]

Just make ts

[dull night]

Been there lol

[hidden elm]

i didnt know, i thought ATK up was rng and you couldnt select it

[sudden egret]

Ah rip

[digital vessel]

holy shit I would rather throw the factory off a cliff than have this mess going on

[trail mirage]

Same but someone reminded me after first try

[brave vapor]

i havent even touched essence farming cause i wanted to clear out most redisttribution item that doesnt restock

but its news to me that i can farm it through my aic factory

[trail mirage]

Efficiencyyyy

[digital vessel]

once I get bored, I'm sure I'll start focusing hard on efficiency

[sudden egret]

The hell is with the random platner/seeder doing literally nothing in the middle?

[hallow summit]

Ya I just made this

[trail mirage]

Extra space

[sudden egret]

Oh wait I see how it's working there now

holy fuck that is jank

[dull night]

What’s your output like?

[sudden egret]

But if it works I guess

[digital vessel]

wtf even is that

[twin spire]

What team do you run with her

[trail mirage]

Oh didn't even see that 😭

[digital vessel]

wonder why

[brave vapor]

atleast he tried

[nova cradle]

@shrewd knoll thank you for the tip about finding high places~

this was another hour of work

or i think 45 minutes

[crude magnet]

arde, wulf, and that dragon guy or lizard whatever he is

[trail mirage]

Wait no it's supposed to be like that

[brave vapor]

surely, he didnt use someone else's blueprint, cause that factory doesnt look "proffecional"

[trail mirage]

Wait

Or not

[digital vessel]

honestly this shit is making me feel alot better about my own efficiency

[fringe geode]

yeah no that 3rd sand output is going nowhere, that's a waste

[sudden egret]

I would show the complete autism that is my factory to show full efficiency, but the camera literally doesn't zoom out enough for anything legible

[digital vessel]

so what is that line doing?

[brave vapor]

my buck a line is over 50 squares long and i'm proud of it

[dull night]

Took me ages to find where my originium sink was earlier. Was frustrating but it’s all better now lol

[trail mirage]

I'm making 2 brown cube at main base

[hallow summit]

His blue ore ran out I think

[hallow summit]

Ah man I could make that too

[dreamy scaffold]

bro im ngl that base looks like eventually it's gonna need a whole demolition team to pull up

[hallow summit]

But I make to craft someth8ng instead

[digital vessel]

if you are talking about the main PAC you can get a really nice view from rockhill

[sudden egret]

yeah idk how long/wide mine is. Game won't let me find out since it collides with so many other production lines I hit the BP facility limit

[gray sigil]

In wuling, is batteries or syringes more profitable/more worth using as money making

[dull night]

I’ve got to finish Wuling today and I’m dreading it

[brave vapor]

both

[hallow summit]

So many plant loops farm

[sudden egret]

You really want to see my can of worms?

[brave vapor]

one uses ferrium, the other xiranite, your limited on both

[digital vessel]

I def don't need like, 3 of them

[dull night]

Whenever I did this to mine I got annoyed at one corner having a big empty space but not a big enough space to do something meaningful

[digital vessel]

probably more

[sudden egret]

@digital vessel That is true effiency at its finest

[dreamy scaffold]

did u not use other AICs at all

[trail mirage]

This was yesterday before I deleted everything

[sudden egret]

@dreamy scaffold Exactly 1 AIC, I have 2 empty and obselete AICs

[gray sigil]

Right now, is it only possible to have 1 battery and 1 syring farm?

[trail mirage]

2 battery

[hallow summit]

Ya it could be waste space or power

For this

If you put too much than enough

[marble yarrow]

what do u produce there

[trail mirage]

Just power 😭

[dull night]

For wuling I’m just not sure how much space or time I should allocate for gear components

[brave vapor]

1.5 battery more like, unless you dont care about component and want to stockpile battery for some reason

[trail mirage]

0

[gray sigil]

So 2 batteries and 1 syringes or just 2 batteries?

[hallow summit]

Man you should focus on buck A more

[brave vapor]

a half line of xiranite to make battery is enough to empty the outpost stockpile

[hallow summit]

Than those

[dreamy scaffold]

yea ur missing 12/m buck A production

[sudden egret]

Why

[trail mirage]

2 battery's and 0.75 syringe

[hallow summit]

Ehh I think that give 70

[gray sigil]

Okay thx

[hallow summit]

Or more heal

[sudden egret]

So, I'm making more than I can sell regardless

[rigid stump]

The yellow border around the PAC or sub PAC, what that for ? Is that the limited to now big each factory can or can i build beyond it as much as i want?

[dull night]

Well I have to I haven’t built any gold gear yet lol

[hoary epoch]

what are the key factors for hitting 60m/ yield for xirante?

[sudden egret]

Why bother with that

[fringe geode]

How does this look? it's as completed as the Refugee camp could get
I'd love to utilize the extra 3 SUB PAC Output ports, BUT THE REFUGEE CAMP SUCKS BALLS AND HAS THE LOWEST AMOUNT OF USABLE OBJECTS

[trail mirage]

Just hold the battery for now

[hallow summit]

Limit place exist

[shrewd sigil]

Is this tuff

[gray sigil]

As long as you make more than you can sell it doesn’t really matter what you make right?

[hoary epoch]

explain

[ivory fjord]

Guys how do i inc. My voltage output? Im at 200 but need more. Never played these kind of factory games before.

[sudden egret]

Nope

[hallow summit]

You can place forge of the sky 2

Only

[sudden egret]

Didn't the game teach you? Use thermal banks + batteries

[brave vapor]

i'm so conditioned to spot the 1 belt sandleaf dust that i almost saw it, other than that this is a good line

[hoary epoch]

I know, so max yield is 30/m per forge, right?

[hallow summit]

Yes

[quartz pecan]

I wish they let us change the direction of the water input, i can't decide which is better 😂

[dreamy scaffold]

it's just more efficient + cleaner to look at

[marble yarrow]

ahh. u dont want the max bills per hour?

[potent gull]

If I liked the factory building in this game, would it be a good idea to seek out other factory games?

[ivory fjord]

If i didnt skip all the 50 hours of tutorials then i would have quit by now tbh.

[hallow summit]

About like 2 second for 1 xiran

[sudden egret]

I'm already at max bills per hour...with a ton of surplus

[fringe geode]

Thermal Banks, it's a placable item that uses Batteries you have to make using the factory.
Alternatively, in a pinch, Thermal Banks can use Originium as power, it's low, but it'll help you start out

[hallow summit]

60 second is 1 minutes

[crude magnet]

sure go play factorio

[hallow summit]

Which mean 30/min

[trail mirage]

You can fit 1 extra deport bus

[sudden egret]

but storage has its limits...this way I don't ever max on anything ever unless I afk for to many days

[sudden egret]

Fair enough

[ivory fjord]

Thx you both

[marble yarrow]

how much bill per hour you sell all?

[brave vapor]

if you want to throw your balls into the gutter, try factorio and GTNH, else play satisfactory or install Modern INdustrialization

[hallow summit]

Ya you can log in day by day and to do is collecting

Or trade

[fringe geode]

not a single wasted sandleaf powder

[potent gull]

How do people end up doing so much with fuckin 90 ferrium and 60 xiranite per min

[dreamy scaffold]

that's the thing though, when buck A and HC batteries hits their limits their values exceeds buck B much more

[hallow summit]

Or maybe set clock

To 4 hours

[sudden egret]

roughly 110k per hour I'm allowed to sell

[brave vapor]

because theres almost nothing to use them on

[sudden egret]

But that literally doesn''t matter. I produce more than I can sell

[brave vapor]

litterally only use other than cash is rerolling your gear

[slate moat]

Obviously.

[hallow summit]

Ehh just don’t use it

Use at bottle

[brave vapor]

and the cash part is directly tied to rerolling, along with the fact that we have a whole whopping 1 outpost to trade

[marble yarrow]

yeah they're contented with it. tho 18/18/24 is the real max bill

[fringe geode]

No i can't actually place anything down, anywhere in the Valley Pass, because i've used up the limit

[sudden egret]

Max bill is just simply producing more than you can sell. There's no meta way to do it

[hallow summit]

Can you buy 16m motor bike thing

[sudden egret]

Meta is simply hitting you stockbill limit by producing more than you can sell

[trail mirage]

Each belt and logistic count

[sudden egret]

already have

[hallow summit]

Can it drive?

[sudden egret]

no

[brave vapor]

there is a meta way, this is a GACHA game, surely those youtube videos werent clickbaiting me

[hallow summit]

Aw man

[sudden egret]

Not with stockbills there isn''t

[fringe geode]

i know, and i still have 3 open Sub PAC slots I can't use because this build uses the spare sand powder to make a steel bottle

[hallow summit]

It would be like wuthering wave

If can drive

[fringe geode]

which uses up enough factories and grinders

which take a heavy toll on the limit

but that also means those grinders will not be on the main HUB when i finally start building there

(it's been empty for days)

[dreamy scaffold]

ya but usually you'd account for your own buck A usage aswell but anyone can play to whatever ways they want i'm not judging just saying it's not to it's max potential

[hallow summit]

Yea YouTube video just show factory blue print share no worries

[sudden egret]

If you're in Wuling, there's no reason to use Buck [A]

Wuling supplies are just superior

[red epoch]

Wuling lacks ores

[sudden egret]

You still produce more than enough

[hallow summit]

Ya but xiran doesn’t need ore

[brave vapor]

there is a reason, it is the fact that i stopped caring about using them cause my team barely lose any hp

[dreamy scaffold]

that's if you're a story skipper im ngl

[red epoch]

I need more Ferrium

[elfin vine]

Whats the current max Originium and Ferrium ore Yield in Wuling?

[sudden egret]

???

[hallow summit]

Ikr I need too for bottle

[brave vapor]

360/90

[sudden egret]

Yeah, I think I was that way for a while

[elfin vine]

Thank you, its hard to know if you reach the limit cause of the fogged areas

[ancient zinc]

Time to slow down having too much and stock bill on recharge

[dreamy scaffold]

people who prog slowly aren't gonna accumulate ore yield faster so there's gonna be a big period where they'll still be using valley IV supplies

[red epoch]

There is no Amethyst in Ba sin se, i mean in wuling

[sudden egret]

Ok, I guess yeah in that case sure. But for most people in Wuling that is not the case

[brave vapor]

fr*nch

[sudden egret]

If you're in Wuling and considering developing the base. You don't need Buck [A] anymore

[dreamy scaffold]

i skipped ALL of the story in chapter 1 and stopped skipping story in chapter 2 to see if it got any better and after 4 hours of playtime i only reached the point where wuling's main factory was planted(and unlocked the skill tree)

[hallow summit]

Yea you need xiran battery

[cobalt oriole]

No new nodes until patch 1.1 wake me when it’s up

[rough breach]

Only 12 amethyst nodes 😔😔😔

[red epoch]

Buck can be traded for Valley tickets tho

[elfin vine]

yeah just need to make LC battery and Xiranite Comps

[hallow summit]

True

[sudden egret]

Yeah, but as a consumable it's useless once you develop a Wuling base

Of course it'll always have use for those delicious stockbills

[hallow summit]

But vallery has more stock for upgrade character

[brave vapor]

well technically, both are inferior to the rarer plants that you can only do stardew farming for

[hallow summit]

Wuling for gear

[brave vapor]

since those heal much more

[sudden egret]

??

[red epoch]

Just need to adjust between batteries and bucks to produce the most stock efficient buildings

[brave vapor]

and dont directly correlate to $

[hallow summit]

Like yellow thing ticket

To buy cost 200k

[red epoch]

As for cusumables i use this for now on my team

[sudden egret]

Yeah, but I don't really bother with that tbh. I just let it ride

[crystal herald]

ur rich

[sudden egret]

the sub level 60 thing?

[brave vapor]

1 line for component, 1 line for battery, simple as, no splitter shenanigans or another battery line

[hallow summit]

Yes

[sudden egret]

Yeah I'm never buying that

ever

[red epoch]

Not really i only have 600 left because I traded all for stocks

[ancient zinc]

I’m poor who can only afford pills

[sudden egret]

https://tenor.com/view/sputnik-gif-8565538601531323823

That's how imagine people using the powders

[red epoch]

Finish the story, unlock all of wuling technology and you'll be rich too dw about it

[ancient zinc]

[crystal herald]

I mean I dont have a chance to use them , I barely cleared the stock market

[red epoch]

Imma flunk the powder market by dumping all my extra

[paper bane]

missing 1 chest due to it blocked behind a quest 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-drawing-shifu-drawing-master-shifu-1000-yard-stare-gif-4555347630673863855

[sudden egret]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[hallow summit]

The hardest challenge find 1

[brave vapor]

it would definetly suck if this chest is locked behind the aic factory

[paper bane]

the radar bought from stock retribution help me find last 2 chest and aurylene

[hallow summit]

Ehh you could just move aic factory

[paper bane]

best 20k bil spended

[brave vapor]

genius idea, move the aic factory to a location with a chest to make it relevant to this channel

[red epoch]

I need to make a lot of stocks to buy those

[paper bane]

i got so much material , i only finish the hub as rn , tmr i the rest , after that i min max the wuling and valley IV

[unkempt hamlet]

Be a true minmaxer

And exhaust the 95% first

[hallow summit]

That cheapest ever they sell

[brave vapor]

a true minmaxer would buy the expensive decoration statue before even touching essence farming

[sudden egret]

[fervent canyon]

I got bored

[unkempt hamlet]

True

[sudden egret]

Damn, just gonna casually flex the cutie on all of us

[unkempt hamlet]

Ive been hoarding wuling stock greeding for 5500 sell price

It will happen

[brave vapor]

i NEED to nake yvonne bear my children

[paper bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[paper bane]

FACTS

[sudden egret]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[unkempt hamlet]

I have not gotten a clear answer

If it goes past 5k

[paper bane]

500 thousand HC battery in wuling via orbital drop

https://giphy.com/gifs/500-cigarettes-firepeg-qOSNC24lvEWTzplsJJ

Wulingers rn :

https://giphy.com/gifs/pleading-vincent-van-gogh-please-god-gKfyusl0PRPdTNmwnD

[red epoch]

The fact that ziplines pole automatic routes still needs a button press each poles is annoying

[untold locust]

i cant place the last unloader in the bottom right corner?

[brave vapor]

alot better than aiming them

[unkempt hamlet]

But i dunno i can clear 95% artificing and have my surtr essence so i havent lost much holding

[dreamy scaffold]

y u downbad to yvonne lemme show u the real stuff, search up arknights nearl summer skin on my life you wont be disappointed

[round bear]

does any of u have jincao drink blueprint?

[brave vapor]

though an option to do so would make doing the gacha daily much simpler

[paper bane]

oof yea you cant its outside

all 3 slot must be in AIC area

[crystal herald]

almost all gone bud 🥲

[paper bane]

WE NEED MORE

[brave vapor]

idc about some other harlot, my eyes are on yvonne's funbag and her only

[hallow summit]

No worries you can buy more expansive

[red epoch]

We did it fellas, i can sleep all night and wake up to a 100% fuctionning factory

[untold locust]

but i can place it in bottom left but its also outside?

[red epoch]

Or so I thought

[unkempt hamlet]

Stay up

[red epoch]

Damn you must have maxxed out equipments

[unkempt hamlet]

Useage should be 120

[red epoch]

Is lvl 70 the best ?

[unkempt hamlet]

Max yield is 115 ferrium

[sudden egret]

For now

[red epoch]

I have 90 in wuling

[round bear]

i bet there is lvl 90 gear coming

[unkempt hamlet]

Metastorage transfer

Is free 25/min

[sudden egret]

Metatransfer adds +25/m

It's annoying you can't send a full 30/m worth

[red epoch]

It's true that now i don't need the purple batteries anymore

[crystal herald]

only 1 🥲

[red epoch]

I can't send stuff from Wuling to Valley tho is it locked behind more region levels ?

[sudden egret]

It's pretty expensive to max out equipment

Unless you get lucky, you need about 100 pieces

to max 1 piece

[crystal herald]

and the rest are these

[young stag]

regional transfer is between wuling and valley4 right

so why can’t you just stash items in your inventory and bring them there..?

[sudden egret]

Wuling's transfer is not available yet. But you can tranfer from V4 to Wuling

You can manually transfer

Just the PAC transfer is automatic, and metatransfer makes shit out of thin air

[young stag]

i heard pac transfer takes time and you lose items

[paper bane]

go to omv dijang

[sudden egret]

You don''t lose items

[paper bane]

press B

[young stag]

oh nvm

[paper bane]

do manual transfer

[sudden egret]

Manual transfer is the same as a regular storage transfer, just hundreds of times faster

[crystal herald]

fr

[mortal plinth]

hahahahah HAHA infinite money!

[young stag]

y so poor

[brave vapor]

unironically what i did for the majority of the time as i proggress the story

[sudden egret]

The factory begins

[mortal plinth]

yeh, the other things to sell to the colony i got are worse

so theres no point using them

[zealous raven]

I need more forges yo 🤚🙂‍↔️🤚

How u guys managing wuling factory with just 2 forges?

[brave vapor]

or just plain harder to make, doesnt make me feel better either that sandleaf is locked behind the final segment of valley

[sudden egret]

We're kind of not. just making do with what''s available

[mortal plinth]

like why is this 10? it takes more materials than that to make capsule. its a scam

[slate moat]

Are you sure?

[brave vapor]

1 line to battery making, 1 line to component, simple, comfy, works

[young stag]

we are winning so much

[sudden egret]

That's not true. 1 Buckflower, 4 amethyst with a value of 5 turns into that

[young stag]

don’t mind the fact that the cap is 28k i blew it on stocks

[crystal herald]

it takes exactly 10

[young stag]

[mortal plinth]

yes, each amethyst bottle is 2 amethyst fibers

[zealous raven]

I have that too but my usage is more than my yield lol

[round bear]

endfield pyramid scheme

[young stag]

you can’t sell fibers can you

[brave vapor]

when i said line i mean 1 xiranite line, so the component is only doing half as efficient

[mortal plinth]

no it doesnt because you use 2 amethyst per bottle. and gotta process it a lot more.

[young stag]

processing is free

[sudden egret]

You're turning 5 value of items into 10 value

You're literally doubling the value

Processing costs nothing

[mortal plinth]

no do you not listen

[brave vapor]

it cost brain power

[crystal herald]

AND buckpowder costs 0 to make

[young stag]

???

[crystal herald]

just power ofc

[young stag]

plop down system blueprint

do nothing

win

[brave vapor]

and i dont wanna spend that until i atleast reach the final act of valley

[sudden egret]

please explain it then

[mortal plinth]

amethyst bottle, you need 2 amethyst per bottle, 5 bottles sell for 10

so why make capsules

[young stag]

spend to get more

[mortal plinth]

when you can just sell bottles instead

[brave vapor]

i will not touch someone elses blueprint, even if its from the game itself

[mortal plinth]

[gray glade]

do i need regional dev lvl 12 for 1080 ferrium in valley iv?

[sudden egret]

@mortal plinth So then it's even at worst

[young stag]

screwing yourself over for nun

[brave vapor]

for me, it doesnt matter either way cause i alr reached the optimal output for both wuling and valley alr

[red epoch]

I don't know if i have the strenght to bring power to the career map

[mortal plinth]

its unnecesary work, you just use more energy on machines and its kind of a waste to sell in the first place

[young stag]

you’re losing nothing

[fervent canyon]

welp i killed the render

[brave vapor]

quite frankly too, i have never seen the outpost full doing that

[sudden egret]

In the end it literally doesn't matter. You're making more than you can sell in the first place in the end-game

[crystal herald]

and you save storage cuz 10 amethyst= 1 buck C

[brave vapor]

the cap kept raising as i level them up

so the game is super lenient and lets you ignore the factory until you finish the story

[sudden egret]

Pretty much exactly what I did

[mortal plinth]

energy and space and ultimately spending more mats on batteries too

[crystal herald]

unless you can power your full max base with only 4 thermal base

[brave vapor]

tldr, just refine the rock cancer and sell it to the people

[sudden egret]

That's what I'm doing

[young stag]

you also get a use out of the capsules you don’t sell

yes you can sell 5 bottles instead

[mortal plinth]

ig but its overall less efficient as a means to make money

[sudden egret]

I have like 400 spare energy, off of 4 thermal banks. Granted I only have zips in Lodestone because they're generally useless

[young stag]

what will you do with an amethyst bottle

[brave vapor]

i eat it

[young stag]

also how are yall running out of energy

[mortal plinth]

...........bottle up my hatred for the mortal realm

[young stag]

i have 1k im not even using

[sudden egret]

@mortal plinth Like I get what you're saying, maybe give Buck [C] 2 more value, but in the end it quite literally doesn't matter

[mortal plinth]

sell it, instead of capsule. LOL

[brave vapor]

bad factory management like running out of ores, no i have not experienced that at all and i sold refined rock cancer

[crystal herald]

I have tried like 12 buckC and the rest with amethyst bottle but the storage will get full from 0 to 80000 and 9-10 hours

[scenic saddle]

can someone give me a starter blueprint for the 5-Star equipments?

[mortal plinth]

ig but capsules are pretty slow to make ngl.

[crystal herald]

so unless you have anything to do in your life , that build is pretty efficient

[sudden egret]

Same amount of time to make 5 bottles

Again, it doesn't matter tho so idgaf about that topic anymore

[crystal herald]

thats the way to stall your items i mean

[brave vapor]

i'm starting to lose grasp of the convo too, is it still about being efficient early game?

[sudden egret]

Yeah

Which I barely touched the factory outside of a couple gear upgrades till Tata

Then I did some basic base stuff before going to Wuling

[brave vapor]

because if it is, i hate to say it cause i hate the genre in general, but this is a gacha game, it will be super lenient

[sudden egret]

then after Wuling I went mega-austistic into base building

I think for like 6 days my stock bills were capped out

because I literally didn't touch the mechanic

[mortal plinth]

ig but in the end you gain nothing from it unless you always let your amethyst bottles fill to max

[brave vapor]

to say it again, i didnt and i still kept selling refined originum up until sub pac wuling

[mortal plinth]

im too poor to do that

xD

[crystal herald]

I always sell buckC to refugee camp

[sudden egret]

I didn't even do that much

[crystal herald]

I dont even use sub PAC in wuling lol

[sudden egret]

When I made my base, and re-discovered depots for myself. My mind was fuckin blown by how many stock bills I had

[sudden egret]

That's the only thing I use in Wuling 😛

[mortal plinth]

Tbh do we even need sub-PAC?

[crystal herald]

I only use main AIC with 1 area expansion

[sudden egret]

I mean, if you asked me. V4 has 2 AICs that aren't needed, and Wuling has an entire main base that's not needed

[brave vapor]

actually yes, unless you either copied someone else's homework or is super autistic with space usage

[sudden egret]

"super autistic with space usage" aka - Someone like me

[brave vapor]

i used all sub pac and quite alot of aic space to reach 18/18, then later on buck c

[sudden egret]

Though V4 still requires 1 sub AIC in order to max out ore usage

[mortal plinth]

welp, for me it isnt yet, altho.... ig i didnt even unlock Ferrum yet

that being said, i fit every single production machine i need in the standard core PAC area xD i didnt have an expansion yet lol

[brave vapor]

still have space on main aic to write slurs with belts if i wanted to

[stark osprey]

on the left side over there would I have enough space to make a cryston component production line?

[mortal plinth]

with room to spare too

[mortal plinth]

what an efficient use of space

[brave vapor]

are you making it for a quest or to actually use, if actually use you can fit it in if you try

[stark osprey]

I forgot to focus on the personal funds side and due to that I can't upgrade the size of this place yet

[tacit rain]

\

[crystal herald]

I went to gold gear directly

[sudden egret]

How I felt tbh

except I only have 200 hours of Factorio

[stark osprey]

use so I can make some gear for the story boss at the reactor area

[crystal herald]

but if you really wanna build just copy paste for an hour while you are online

[mortal plinth]

my sub PAC just looks like this cause i dont really need anything else so i use this space for trading materials lol

[brave vapor]

if you dont mind waiting, only do half efficient and wait awhile, youll get enough to make some gear

[stark osprey]

I've gotten to that part with green gear only for context

[sudden egret]

Guys, should I buy the Drill, or Bonsai next

[mortal plinth]

i didnt get 3 star gear either yet 💔

sad life

[brave vapor]

you could go all in, but the story is rather easy to clear(quite long to read) so i'd recc holding out until all in on gear making

[stark osprey]

yeah... I need better stuff

[sudden egret]

Not a bad idea

[brave vapor]

drill, the tree doesnt represent the industrial revolution

[mortal plinth]

fr.... I did the quarry quest today and reading everything and exploring the entire area .....took almost the entire day

[gray sigil]

Am I doing something wrong? I have nothing in both my wuling bases but it still says I exceed some facilities?

[mortal plinth]

[sudden egret]

But the tree can represent the super cancer we give people to sell meds to

[stark osprey]

holding out until what point?

[quasi locust]

your forge limit i guess?

[brave vapor]

practically end of wuling story.

[sudden egret]

Do you have enough depot slots?

[stark osprey]

I have no idea when that is to be frank

[crystal herald]

prolly you havent unlock depot bus expansion or forge of the sky

[gray sigil]

My forge limit is 2

[brave vapor]

this is coming from a guy that raised a tanker and basically never died once to story bosses, so you might wanna make the gear if your not confident

[stark osprey]

the depo that sits at the end of the building area? I have that but not forge of the sky

[brave vapor]

rather long, i think if your not skipping story

[stark osprey]

I'm not because the story is quite interesting to me

[brave vapor]

then yeah, go ahead, whatever floats your boat

[crystal herald]

you have to unlock it in AIC upgrade thingy

[quasi locust]

then it's probably the number of depot bus expansion, yeah

[brave vapor]

the ores are just gonna rot in the aic anyway if you dont use them

[gray sigil]

How many can you have?

Ohhh

Wait nvm

[slate moat]

How many AIC base are there in Wuling?

[gray sigil]

I havent bought it yet

[quasi locust]

you upgrade through AIC steward

[crystal herald]

1 main AIC , 1 sub PAC atm

[gray sigil]

Yeah I just did, I thought i bought it already but I havent but I bought it now and it works, thanks

[stark osprey]

This reminds me. I should use the sub PAC for fund production

[slate moat]

I skipped all the stimulation, it's giving me a headache

[stark osprey]

that's the 2nd tier of machinery I assume

[slate moat]

Early Wuling I don't need to build anything can just rush story right?

[crystal herald]

I dont even know I can skip them when I did lol

[zealous raven]

Ohhh then I’m not same as u, I have double xira input.. for my batteries I think

[crystal herald]

wuling side

[slate moat]

It's a new patch

[stark osprey]

fair point

[crystal herald]

the pic you showed was from valley 4

[stark osprey]

I had no idea there was another tier of machinery available

[brave vapor]

your roughly at the halfway point on valley

[crystal herald]

you will get different talent tree as soon as you get to wuling

[stark osprey]

the reactor bossfight is the halfway point?

[crystal herald]

reactor bossfight?

[brave vapor]

i already forgot where that boss was

or what that boss looks like

[stark osprey]

the one at the aether test site with the human squid like stone boss

[crystal herald]

those are all 3 bosses in order

[brave vapor]

ah, yeah thats roughly halfway

[stark osprey]

3rd one yeah

[brave vapor]

if 3rd one, then your almost done with valley

[crystal herald]

after third one you move to wuling

[stark osprey]

it's easier making the cryston components rather than the ferium ones wtf

[crystal herald]

basically done with valley main quest

[midnight harness]

waht is even happening

[crystal herald]

am I actually the only one who literally skipped purple gear?

[midnight harness]

yes (no)

[wide crown]

The operator guide makes you craft 4 purple pieces 😢

[crystal herald]

idk I get a lot from exploration alrd

and with that I got enough to craft 4

[steep wadi]

that's probably because you smashed every single boxes you saw

[brave vapor]

i had to setup a dirty cryston comp to finish the quest

[steep wadi]

or at least alot of them

[crystal herald]

meanwhile I m alrd wearing full gold gear

[steep wadi]

same lol

i deleted it immediately after getting 200

[crystal herald]

nah I did 100% exploration as soon as I finished wuling main quest

[fringe geode]

OOPS

that's better

[steep wadi]

wat da chen for

[sudden egret]

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-qianyu-silly-gif-2603914693282121266

[steep wadi]

oh to grab my attention

[crystal herald]

wavy HC battery productions

[fringe geode]

my main hub is completely empty btw

what should i make?

[sudden egret]

Stockbill items

[pearl terrace]

Explosives

Trust

[fringe geode]

those are painfully easy to make

imma max out on everything probably