aic-factory

[nova osprey]

lol

just search in #1461542035617091681 and choose one you like

[vocal monolith]

+1 level 😭

[stoic coyote]

trust the cancer rock

[vapid dock]

All of them, sprinklers have an internal storage of 50 water

[willow beacon]

do yall fw this

[paper bane]

oripathy whats that? i dont know what you talkin about , you msut have eaten something to have that happening to yo body

[vapid dock]

Itll build up when plants are already watered

[storm junco]

Among us

[willow beacon]

what

[marble yarrow]

1 planter 1 seeder only for jincao

[willow beacon]

wait fr?

[nova osprey]

yeah

[willow beacon]

oh u right

[nova osprey]

the reason why we need two planters for v4 side is because we need to transform the second seed into a more useful form, a plant

[willow beacon]

ye ik

i just didn't realize the recipe changed it

[thin hornet]

How are people getting 540/min originium yield when all I can find is 500/min and I swear I think i got all mineral beds

[silent karma]

so will this metastorage thing constantly transfer goods over? or will I have to manually do it every time

[sudden egret]

What's your region level at?

[marble yarrow]

it restarts itself

[thin hornet]

11

[silent karma]

thx

[sudden egret]

You must be missing some then @thin hornet

[stoic coyote]

Re-check your mining beds for missing drill

[sudden egret]

Double check all miners are powered, double check every node

You're missing 3 nodes if that helps

[crude nebula]

i need more mining beds

[thin hornet]

Alr I'll check again but I swear I've checked twice already

[sudden egret]

Well, 3 are missing or unpowered

[drifting tide]

Can the depot bus port and extensions from wuling be used in valley 4 aic?

[sudden egret]

1 miner gives 20/m, and right now cap is 560/m

[willow beacon]

ok do yall fw it this time

[thin hornet]

Alralr

[sudden egret]

Nope, Wuling stuff is exlusive to Wuling (Xiranite stuff, and anything liquid)

[thorn garnet]

and water

[sudden egret]

anything liquid

[willow beacon]

bro forgot about hard water

[thin hornet]

Is there a mineral bed here

[sudden egret]

inject that xiranite into my veins, give me super cancer to fight the blight

[drifting tide]

Thanks!

[sudden egret]

Yes, and that zone is tied to a side quest I believe

[drifting bramble]

can't, devs limited the forge to 2

[sudden egret]

I got 2 arms

[thin hornet]

🫩

[crude nebula]

Iirc 2 in there

[thin hornet]

Factory must grow i suppose

[sudden egret]

@crude nebula Is correct, 2 originium deposists in that section

[heavy olive]

how do I produce batteries faster without wiping every resource off the surface of the planet

[thin hornet]

Wait then I'm still missing one

[sudden egret]

What type of batteries, and how many you wanting to make?

[jade mirage]

alright ive unlocked everything now i just need someone to blueprint all of their bases for me cuz im lazy

the factory must be copied

[sudden egret]

My base is mine, I made it perfect. 2 Obselete AICs in V4...nobody getting mine

[thin hornet]

Is there a mineral bed here?

[sudden egret]

Yes

well

you see it

[jade mirage]

what if i told you you're a super cool person

[sudden egret]

at the edge of the fog it's there

[crude nebula]

Check #1461542035617091681, you can find what you need to copy

[thin hornet]

Like a different one

[sudden egret]

no, that zone is empty

[thin hornet]

I figured

Im still missing one originium thing

[sudden egret]

Power Plant has no Orignium nodes @thin hornet

[thin hornet]

I thought so

[crude nebula]

Most beds at least 2 rigs, you must forgot to power 1 of it

[runic epoch]

Theres an interactive map somewhere online

[heavy olive]

rn I've made this setup for LC batteries, I wanted to upgrade to SC and eventually HC but I noticed their requirements are "Might as well doubled" which means for 1 packing unit, I'm aware:

LC: 4 Thermal Banks (880 pwr)
SC: 2 Thermal Banks (840 pwr)
HC: 2 Thermal Banks (2200 pwr) *altho I haven't discovered Sandleaf yet :(

[sudden egret]

Also Lodespring only has 2 nodes at the same spot on the map

[heavy olive]

I wanna be able to basically quadruple my current setup without absolutely draining the hell out of my resources if possible that is

[runic epoch]

You might wanna hold off on doing too much before getting HC batteries

[sudden egret]

Right away I see mis-matched ratios. Need another orignium input

[thin hornet]

Screen went black doing a quest now I gotta restart the game 🫩

[tough ledge]

^

Dont be stingy with the ratio is something i learned rapidly

[crimson inlet]

rather than josh, WE GOT THE FROGMAN HIMSELF

https://youtu.be/QWkXKl2fr8M?si=Z_waC5yXgj8xG7d0

[tough ledge]

especially for Xiranite because you only have 2 forges

[heavy olive]

that so? I'm aware for my current setup that I need 5x amy and 10x orithium oh wait I see where I went wrong oops

I designed it for SC batteries that're 10x and 15x (which ig in units would be 1 amy and 1.5 orithium) which is why I had it split to not waste

[soft valve]

do you think 2k of xiranite component is enough for all the gear for now? If so i might move the production towards to batteries instead

[white heath]

ok, it was a bit more humane than I thought

[heavy olive]

yeahh I've been made aware HC batteries gonna be hell to setup

[sudden egret]

Honestly, rule of thumb: Design everything under the assumption you make maximum output. From there work backwards on your ratios

[heavy olive]

for the time being though, is there any way I can scale? I would like ample power

[shrewd knoll]

thats a lot of protocol capacity though

[sudden egret]

If you want I've got a BP I can send your way once you reach that point

[white heath]

I guess, wuling city has 300 so it should be fine...??

[heavy olive]

that would be nice, thank you sm

[shrewd knoll]

it's not actually if you use 30+ ziplines

[heavy olive]

also atm, I do seem to be making max output from packing unit as it's constantly full

[slender rivet]

should i upgrade depot node level 3 for now

[lofty hedge]

:D max

ores

[white heath]

I was planning on it ._. lmao does the farm actually screw you over? How much capacity will 30 ziplines take?

[sudden egret]

6/m fulfills 4 Thermal Batteries.
If you're worried about over production, send an overflow line into storage

[heavy olive]

said storage is also full :D

[sudden egret]

Time to sell some to an outpost then

[heavy olive]

outpost is also empty

[shrewd knoll]

you either give up on half the farm, defenses for faster essence farming or some ziplines

[white heath]

aight, thanks for the heads up... lmao, just can't have nice things, huh

[heavy olive]

tho tbh my issue isn't overprod, it's underprod, I wanna have a hypothetically huge amt of power available so I don't have to worry ab it

[runic epoch]

HC batteries

generating that much power with LC isn't very healthy

[sudden egret]

@heavy olive I made a post in the BP Sharing event called NewHC-City
If you want a good HC Battery BP there you go

All you have to do is input the ores, and get the farms started up

But it requires Sandleaf

so if you don't have sandleaf don't bother with it just yet

[willow beacon]

smash or pass

[stoic coyote]

pass

[willow beacon]

planters take up so much space it's crazy

idk how to compress them

[sudden egret]

Pass, I see to many inefficiecies

[hybrid nacelle]

pass

[willow beacon]

where

[stoic coyote]

my current state of grief

[heavy olive]

where, can I find that?-

[heavy olive]

I figured out somewhat of a solution for that

granted I haven't fully compressed yet

[sudden egret]

Most obvious one: You have an extra sandflower powder output going nowhere, so there's one. Farms can be compressed slightly and shoved to the right

[willow beacon]

well it's not like i'm doing anything with it

[stoic coyote]

mine not compressed enough

[sudden egret]

Yeah like it's wuling, so it honestly doesn't matter

you have more space than anyone knows what to do with

[stoic coyote]

but retangle fit

[sudden egret]

As long as it works, nobody really cares

[lavish blaze]

I've made ultra compact hc blueprint for originium park & power plateau base. Initially it requires 15 deployer, but since sub base only has 14 side output limit, i managed to squeeze 1 directly from sand power plant.

[sudden egret]

I see 3 Sandflower powder inputs, not compact enough. It's solid though horizontally

[sudden egret]

#1467768128388989072 message Here's that link to my post

[stoic coyote]

not that "compact"

[shrewd knoll]

not even a blueprint because you used the depot unloader outside of the base

[silent jacinth]

Does anyone know how to get up the rooftop?

[sudden egret]

Yeah, not Blueprintable, but he could copy/paste everything that isn't the unloaders

Honestly, imo never blueprint the unloaders

[shrewd knoll]

You have to parkour your way up, very hard

and some glitch glides

[silent jacinth]

Where?

[shrewd knoll]

too many steps to explain

[silent jacinth]

Can you dm?

[kind vessel]

How is my Wuling Battery farm?

[silent jacinth]

My friend managed to placed a zipline there

[shrewd knoll]

no, its just too complex to try to do it

[true nebula]

is there a sandleaf that is closer to the map entrance than this?

[shrewd knoll]

cuz there are several roofs you can get into

[sudden egret]

Was the penis depot unloader intentional? (I tease)
It's solid

[heavy olive]

oh yeah, can I get your feedback on my current plant setup? it's just to grow 3 diff plants & I made it "hot swappable"

[shrewd knoll]

and then perform quick ziplines builds, then power them to get up

[sudden egret]

Sure, give me the BP code

[silent jacinth]

I was thinking of that but idk where to do it?

[heavy olive]

I don't have one :p

I kinda custom did it

[stoic coyote]

nice

[heavy olive]

feeds 3 diff plants and grows em, I don't really have a huge need for them so it's just to build stock

[sudden egret]

Horrible on space jesus.
A simple design is put a seeder in between two planters

[runic epoch]

I think a modular one would net you more

[shrewd knoll]

theres 2, one from the big hole side you grapple up from

and one where you walk up a pipe

[heavy olive]

I realize it can be heavily compressed, tho the idea is there I think

[paper bane]

what is this

[sudden egret]

I would never use this. Typically if you're needing to make a specific type of plant, you're never NOT making it from that point forward on your designs

[heavy olive]

do you mean to dedicate 3 machine per plant?

[paper bane]

no?? you use 1 machine for 1 plant

[heavy olive]

sorry I worded that wrong

yeah that

[lavish blaze]

Yeah true. But since sandflower generates 3 powder output, and the hc needs 5 powder input, I seem cant find a way to make it more compact other than making powder loop outside of it ahaha

[runic epoch]

Something like this

[heavy olive]

well yeah, it's more of a passive thing until I have a more focused dsign ready

[sudden egret]

Make 3 batteries farms, send the extra output from first 2 into 3rd 😛

Although, that requires main PAC

can't use that in sub AIC

[sudden egret]

Fair enough, but once you really start building a factory abandon this idea

[heavy olive]

[paper bane]

copy mine

make drugs capsule A for the homeless camp

[heavy olive]

I shall revise

[heavy olive]

i

[stoic coyote]

shrink it down

[pure egret]

will this work?

[paper bane]

🤨

thats my face when i first saw it

[sudden egret]

Should be servicable, assuming you have xiranite production

[pure egret]

yes

[hybrid nacelle]

it does work, just not at max rate

[pure egret]

idk how to make better. this is second wuling battery

[sudden egret]

That's max rate

[paper bane]

3500 xiranite component is not enough , one must cry while lookin at how much stockbills you need in wuling

[sudden egret]

oh wait

[hybrid nacelle]

you need 3 originium grinder per wuling battery

[sudden egret]

no it's not

Yeah I saw 3 powders, not 3 grinders mb

You right

[paper bane]

500 Thousand Syringe For the Stockade family to get overdose

https://giphy.com/gifs/500-cigarettes-firepeg-qOSNC24lvEWTzplsJJ

[willow beacon]

triple your orignium

and then you're good

[sudden egret]

double Orignium input, triple grinder output

[pure egret]

copied this blue print in main

[paper bane]

shit sexy as hell

[willow beacon]

buckflower carbon

[rough breach]

for PAC is there an upgrade order

[sudden egret]

Not really

Upgrade based on your needs

Need more space? Get space upgrade

Need more inputs? Get more depot upgrades

[willow beacon]

please don't use depots for xiranite production btw, unless you're exporting xiranite itself

[thorn garnet]

need more loader, get the depots.. need space, get space..

do what you need

[willow beacon]

exporting plants to make xiranite on-location is....bad

especially if it's buckflower

[sudden egret]

Normally I agree with this, but it's Wuling. If someone is even able to use half the available space I'd be impressed

not in the good kind of way

but impressed none-the-less

Hell, I might be able to cram everything Wuling into the sub AIC

[sudden egret]

Actually nvm, to many farms required

[paper bane]

i just make batteries and sell em lol

i imported HC batteries from the OMV dijang to wuling instead of using wuling batteries

[sudden egret]

Note: Importing resources will NEVER reach a full hours worth of usage

[nova cradle]

can someone explain how making my belts like this fixed my clogging issue?

[willow beacon]

bro what the hell am i looking at

[sudden egret]

It doesn't?

[nova cradle]

I had a clogging issue cuz the belt was short and went into a facility but some how even though it's at the same rate it's not clogging anymore

[solid imp]

Huh

[nova cradle]

yeah i dunno

[runic epoch]

[sudden egret]

That gap on the line tells me it's not clogging at all

[solid imp]

Your sandleaf is gonna clog cuz one shredder makes enough to output 3 belts of powder

[vivid crescent]

the one inside the shredder proly full maybe

[nova cradle]

left it overnight and it doesnt clog anymore lmao

[willow beacon]

the thing that fixed your issue is the stash

nothing else

[nova cradle]

it used to be shorter

[solid imp]

[willow beacon]

using stash as a middleman voids(stores) excess

[vivid crescent]

i mean if it works dont touch it

[heavy olive]

so I built off your idea

[willow beacon]

i guess man

[willow beacon]

where are you getting your input from

[raw spindle]

how does going through a stash work, does it just store the excess?

[heavy olive]

aic factory

[hardy gulch]

Ts look so wrong

[paper bane]

ikr

[willow beacon]

why is the pac getting involved in a plant production line

[heavy olive]

yes, rn I have no reason to use them, I just wanna have an oversupply for when I do need 'em (and also a template I can expand on later)

[nova cradle]

nah my stash used to just look like this my stash has always been there

[heavy olive]

plant variety

[willow beacon]

they're self sustaining

[heavy olive]

I'm doing an "all in one" solution until I make focused

[willow beacon]

just make multiple planters

[heavy olive]

space

[willow beacon]

[nova cradle]

so i dunno why makingn the belt lonnger fixed my clogging LOL

[paper bane]

the plant set up make it auto plants

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-face-cats-qZgHBlenHa1zKqy6Zn

[nova cradle]

i wanna make the belt look nicer some how

[strong quiver]

so much wasted space

must

optimize

[paper bane]

i dont know if i want to ask to see your factory after bro say longer belt no more clogging

[sudden egret]

@heavy olive Don't worry about plant variety, it's honestly a terrible idea. Set up plants lines to make 1 plant line in a "Seed-and-forget" setup

[paper bane]

jesus have mercy

[sudden egret]

If you need buckflower, you use 2 planters and 1 seeder to make buckflower. Using 1 planter to make multiple plants is useless

[tranquil marlin]

anyone got tips for a power plant setup?
I have a bunch of empty space here

[solid imp]

As someone with >1000 factorio hours sometimes the stuff i see in here amazes me

[paper bane]

@nova cradle i sentence you to study for engineering degrees like everybody else here

[nova cradle]

how do i zoom out my factory more? there is a trick to it right?

[runic epoch]

Sentence them to 5 years in thermal expansion

[solid imp]

The thermal banks or the batteries?

[runic epoch]

The zoom isn't that great
It hits a cap at some point

[paper bane]

you cant , do you can hold shift to move camera faster

[nova cradle]

someone said like build something on both ends and then what

[sudden egret]

@solid imp I only have like 200 hours in Factorio, but just like in that game everytime I finish building a factory. I begin to notice all the ineffiencies and rebuild it all

[marble yarrow]

spaced tiles then move (sub pac is 40 space, main pac is 50 space)

[simple crest]

how much xiranite component do i need?

[sudden egret]

My current and final base is actually like my 12th rebuild of my ENTIRE factory

[solid imp]

A constant supply cuz of artifacting iirc

[hidden elm]

am i done for now?

[tranquil marlin]

self-sufficient battery setup
so like I can produce batteries and power my base at the same time

So this???

[sudden egret]

If you don't plant on dealing with Gear Artificing, then yeah pretty much

[hidden elm]

i think i have 5k of them in depot is it enough ?

[heavy olive]

okei

[sudden egret]

Not even close

[hidden elm]

[sudden egret]

I've produced over 20k, and I'm going to need way more to max gear artifice

[solid imp]

If you can make a battery setup that has the packaging unit run constantly then it can fill 4 thermal banks constantly

[sudden egret]

Now if you plan on making Level 70 gear, and not ugrading that gear. Then yeah you have plentyt

[lost tusk]

finally managed to optemize my battery production but now im burning way to much originium is this fine or should i lower the battery production

[hidden elm]

so one battery one gear then?

[sudden egret]

But if you w ant to upgrade that level 70 gear, you're talking absolute fuckloads

It's like 100 pieces to guarentee a single Level 70 piece of gear

4 pieces per person

[willow beacon]

lower it

[hidden elm]

[runic epoch]

5 billion components to laevy

[solid imp]

More components for laeva's gloves

[sudden egret]

so it's like 20k components or some shit per character you want to have maxed gear. Assuming my math isn't wrong

[hidden elm]

10k

or 40k

[marble yarrow]

idk why u dont have 360 originium mining

[hidden elm]

[nova cradle]

wow cool trick! thank youu @marble yarrow

@paper bane @strong quiver @sudden egret here

[simple crest]

Should I remove one of my wuling batteries for xiranite components?

[paper bane]

i mean you can switch it off

[lost tusk]

idk i feel like i got all the nodes wuling offers

[hidden elm]

i've been dealing with a new set of problems now, peoples ziplines are too annoying visually

im considering unfriending all

[sudden egret]

Yeah I think there's been a bunch of complaints about the forced sharing. I imagine next big update they add in a feature to turn off shared buildings

[marble yarrow]

i got 1 for battery 1 for half component

[solid imp]

I don't think you only get friends buildings, you'll still get other people's zipline even with no friends

[nova cradle]

i think that's a better position lol

[hidden elm]

[nova cradle]

is there a way to see other friend's factories?

[runic epoch]

Yep

[solid imp]

[sudden egret]

Also don't unfriend. Even inactives are useful for selling Elastic Goods

[nova cradle]

i wanna visit other friends

[solid imp]

Ask them to send a screenshot lol

[hidden elm]

i should delay routing my ziplines until then then

[nova cradle]

i mean go to their factories like visit but juding by your response i guess it isn't possible

[sudden egret]

I'd reccomend setting up a Lodestone zipling from the Depot to the town, for quick easy Large-Super Fragile loads

[nova cradle]

[marble yarrow]

idk why you putting protocol stashes in the middle of going to the depot loader

[solid imp]

Sadly no
I would love to visit my friend's factories so i can bully them about their incorrect ratios

[nova cradle]

yeah someone told me about that ill fix it later hahaha

[sudden egret]

@marble yarrow It depends on space requirements. I use close to a dozen protocol storages in my main base

[nova cradle]

something likee my 1.5 becomes 1.8

[strong quiver]

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[nova cradle]

sorry

[strong quiver]

dies

[runic epoch]

Depot loaders

[solid imp]

If you're already sending items to a depot loader there's no benefit to splitting off that line into a protocol stash though

[nova cradle]

i dont have engineeringn degree

just art degree

never let art graduates build factory

[solid imp]

Unless you just really want to store 300 extra of that item for some reason

[sudden egret]

@solid imp Depends on what's going on the in the factory tbh, it's all dynamic case by case

[nova cradle]

also it's cool

[marble yarrow]

also i think you could just go with this one for packed origocrust. instead of refining originium before shredding it for grinder

[strong quiver]

kinna sad tbh

[sudden egret]

The Depot Loader bulding specifically is pretty ass though

[strong quiver]

depot loader is a waste of perfect space for the depot unloader

[solid imp]

I can't think of any reason to have a belt going to a depot loader, then adding a splitter onto the belt leading to a protocol stash
The whole belt is already being loaded to the depot through the loader

[strong quiver]

i crafted 20 loader

have use

none

[solid imp]

(Though more reasonably get rid of the loader and just use the stash)

[sudden egret]

Oh I was misunderstanding what you're saying. Yeah if it's already going into a storage point, no point in splitting into a 2nd storage point. You're right

[obsidian lava]

rate my purple battery farming setup

[nova cradle]

no i cant it's making this

[solid imp]

Needs more tangtang

[nova cradle]

same with the other side @marble yarrow

[sudden egret]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[runic epoch]

Something about how that plant farm works is irking me

[marble yarrow]

aight, its ur preference

[nova cradle]

no if i remove those ill be making too much

it's not really preferenne

[solid imp]

huh

[nova cradle]

yeah

like

im making too much of those products

so i have to produce more to balance it out

[obsidian lava]

since I have unlocked the 4th outpost, I decided to let each outpost do one job like refining units for example, how scalable you guys think this is?

[runic epoch]

What are you making again..?

[white heath]

I found the issue lmao, it was 1 square transport belt behind in the main mission

[paper bane]

@white heath incorrect belt

[strong quiver]

very unscalable

[paper bane]

i mean i kinda only need to use 2

[solid imp]

The problem is that depot unloader space is limited

[frank knoll]

guys help

fried arguing with me

[paper bane]

what happen babe

[frank knoll]

THEY SAID LEFT IS BETTER im saying right is more efficient

[undone ether]

Throw em back in the frier

[runic epoch]

Loses a lot of efficiency

[livid cairn]

I have tried this, problem is I quickly out of port

[frank knoll]

which one is more correct

[nova cradle]

my ores and amethysts are always full so i have to make them into origocrusts and fibers and other stuff

same with my amethysts and origocrusts

[paper bane]

bro so angy he pull out MS paint

[obsidian lava]

i see, so it's more effective to just line up the entire chain in just one outpost?

[marble yarrow]

i meant it could be just like this

[sudden egret]

The answer is: Case by case basis

[undone ether]

Left is more efficient. More product per unit placed

[solid imp]

The main reason to have production lines that go straight from raw resource to finished product instead of "unload ore > refine > load ferrum block > unload ferrum block > shred to dust > load dust" etc. is cuz you just run out of space along the bus to put depot unloaders

[frank knoll]

but 2 yield no?

[paper bane]

the left better

[paper bane]

bro left is more space efficent

[undone ether]

If you're looking for 2 yield then double the left side. 6 units for 2 yield instead of 7

[nova cradle]

oohh what about it

[paper bane]

the right you gonna add 1 more

[runic epoch]

Space used by the right takes up way more

[frank knoll]

6 units instead of... 7..?

6 units... 7..

[paper bane]

.landmine

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086673530314832/1434275206028988426/LandmineNOW.gif?ex=6907bc60&is=69066ae0&hm=a021ac8d85bdecb3aa078eb0ed4612ba8c53bb4c8d1521adf699af0833e972c8&=&width=234&height=190

[frank knoll]

so i was wrong

[runic epoch]

Perlica smite this fellow Chen qianyu down

[paper bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[frank knoll]

damn i thought i was cooking

[undone ether]

1 seed to 2 different plants.
1 plant goes back into the seed
2nd plant goes to another seed
2nd seed feeds 2 plant units
2 yield

[strong quiver]

you should rebuild your base

[solid imp]

Both should only take 6 buildings

[strong quiver]

now

[solid imp]

So it doesn't matter

[obsidian lava]

[strong quiver]

[frank knoll]

yeah thats my point

[undone ether]

Its written weird. I see what you mean now

[solid imp]

If your setup takes 7 buildings you messed up somewhere lol

[frank knoll]

but people are saying mine is less efficient

[sudden egret]

Ignoring the outside, you can see a 2 yield output

Follow the middle citrome

[strong quiver]

anyway my setup for sub PAC is 2 base for grinding raw ferrite into steel and 1 for bottling buck A

[frank knoll]

this is what i did

[strong quiver]

main base is further refinery+ power generation

[paper bane]

peak

[ornate isle]

lmk if anyone wants the blueprint

[undone ether]

which is the exact same as using 2 independent 2plant/1seed set ups

[sudden egret]

Same output yes, but given my space iregularity there, my settup was the preffered way

I needed the 2 outputs in those specific spots, and had to build/adjust my factory around inputing into those 2

[stoic hatch]

this place can talk about TD right?

i need setup for WULING TD

[nova cradle]

we have the same plant factory!

[paper bane]

td?

[undone ether]

tower defense

[stoic hatch]

this frogs is killing me

[nova cradle]

L shape farm

[stoic hatch]

bro became canonball and so fast

[paper bane]

i dont even bother with that , ive been so lock in with factory i forgor those exist

[stoic hatch]

u will after dont have content to do

[undone ether]

If you do them you increase your hourly regen on stock bills

[stoic hatch]

there

[sudden egret]

Tower groups of 4
1 Beam
1 Marsh
1 Sruge
1 HE Grenade

Place groups around choke points

[paper bane]

optimizing have no end'

[frank knoll]

guys i got slimed.

[paper bane]

yeah i know , but i dont even bother

[frank knoll]

i admitted to my friends their setup was correct

[sudden egret]

No there's an end. The end is when you hit the 768 facility cap

[paper bane]

just building is enough

[frank knoll]

[stoic hatch]

do i need place it all near the outpost?

[sudden egret]

@stoic hatch No, prioritize where enemies paths natrually intersect. Adjust depending on what ends up lacking

[solid imp]

Or you're using your entire input of raw resources

[sudden egret]

In my case, both

[paper bane]

well im collecting chest rn

[stoic hatch]

ohooo okayy lemme try thank you

[marble yarrow]

your right side looks like this

[solid imp]

I didn't hit my facility cap but there's nothing I can add to my V4 factory unless i wanna shove bomb production back in there

[sudden egret]

I have hyper-optimized everything about my base to the point where I have 2 completly empty AIC's in V4, that I have 0 use for in any capacity

[solid imp]

But i still have 8000 bombs left so

[sudden egret]

I think I have like 30 bombs atm

[solid imp]

I automated bombs the moment i could, then went to sleep, then woke up with the full depot of 8k

[strong quiver]

ehhh

[sudden egret]

I'd be shocked if you go through even 1000 any time soon

[runic epoch]

Damn
How's your main AIC looking like

[strong quiver]

looks kinna ehh tbh

[frank knoll]

its the same then no?

[sudden egret]

You want a screen shot from the cliff?

[runic epoch]

Shure

[solid imp]

Maybe if i start using bombs for mining the weapon upgrade rocks

[strong quiver]

i always do a close loop in the 2 grower -1 grinder

the space in the middle is for power pole

[frank knoll]

wait hold on this clogs no?

[marble yarrow]

i dont use it btw. i just translated it

[frank knoll]

the 2 seed will pile up to 50

thats why i always double conveyor

after planting unit

[sudden egret]

@runic epoch

[solid imp]

But both seed units in that screenshot have two output belts

[nova cradle]

you mean your one base can do everything?

[nova cradle]

holy china

[sudden egret]

@nova cradle Almost, requires only 1 sub-AIC

[runic epoch]

Oh wow
That corner is utilised

[sudden egret]

Let me show yall my singular sub-AIC

[frank knoll]

cuz 2 yield

[solid imp]

Yeh

[sudden egret]

Yeah, was tricky but I got it

[solid imp]

I used all of my sub-pacs for my v4 base cuz i got too lazy to compact it, my builds are very messy

[somber briar]

Is there any use for owl station if dijiang is maxed?

[nova cradle]

that's really impressive. no wasted space at all!

[marble yarrow]

i preferred this anyway

[solid imp]

Future content probably

[sudden egret]

This is my sub-AIC

[strong quiver]

oh yeah that's mine

[solid imp]

You should still upgrade them for regional development xp

[somber briar]

Yeah i maxed all the owl

[strong quiver]

i also shift one of the planter offset to the side a bit so i can also place a grinder between the 2

[nova cradle]

this is how i started building my factory. This is my first battery factory then i thought i wanted to be a little more creative

[strong quiver]

so for setup like buck A or refinery i have more space for belts

[somber briar]

Then i realize i maxed dijiang too, so i wonder should i still collect all of them

[frank knoll]

looks cute its like a usb stick

[shadow loom]

did the factory's worth in valley 4 drop to close to zero once i unlocked the wuling AIC?

[frank knoll]

[nova cradle]

this will be my new one soon. It's gonna be packed with Xiranite

[marble yarrow]

EHE

[solid imp]

Use the free space in your other sub pacs to automate citrome C so you never go hungry cuz you'll always have 80,000 canned lemon

[sudden egret]

No not at all. V4 still super important

[sudden egret]

I already got canned lemon automated

[solid imp]

Dang, good job

[runic epoch]

16M bike still awaits you

[frank knoll]

is xiranite a new material?

[marble yarrow]

probably i need to put all my 4 Buck C farm here in the extra spaces

[solid imp]

Automate uhhhhhhhg
Spidertrons

[nova cradle]

yeah it's the best material for battery rn in the game!

[frank knoll]

is it post sandleaf

[sudden egret]

Stockbills can't restock fast enough. So I always got cheap healing supplies

[nova cradle]

it still uses sandleaf

[solid imp]

Wuling, chapter 2

[runic epoch]

Oh that's interesting
I'm running a 18/18/6/6 configuration

[frank knoll]

i thought i was done

[nova cradle]

the sandleaf is never gonna be gone

lololol

[frank knoll]

after sandleaf i was gonna mega overhaul

but i still need another mat...

[sudden egret]

I went that route at first, but as I optimized I thought, "What if my depot fills up"
Then I diversified my outputs

[solid imp]

You can't move the xiranite back to V4 anyway,

[marble yarrow]

turn your 20 origocrust into money

[small creek]

are xiranite relay towers just useless? like what is their use case when xiranite pylons just seem so much better

[potent mantle]

inefficient

[frank knoll]

oh cool! thanks for that reassurance

[sudden egret]

@marble yarrow I do, it''s what I use for daily depot deliveries

[solid imp]

So the max for v4 is the sandleaf stuff ( buck/citrome A and HC batteries)

[nova cradle]

here is my prototype 1 depot bus lane xiranite battery

[runic epoch]

Distance is still a thing

[small creek]

their distance is same, 80 meters

[lost tusk]

i guess haveing production split like this is better at the moment ?

[runic epoch]

I don't assume you'll go around spamming pylons every 30 m

[solid imp]

Are the relays still taller

[nova cradle]

someone helped me fix up my xiranite factory a while ago. was really a huge help with putting protocol stash before the battery LOL

[sudden egret]

80m > 30m

[small creek]

guys the pylons are 80 meters, not 30

[proven holly]

I dont think you can craft xiranite in valley

[marble yarrow]

for mines where a relay cant cover that much

[sudden egret]

Are they? I know you can still connect up to 80m if near a relay

[nova cradle]

that's right! That's why I will transfer xiranites

[solid imp]

Do the auto-pylons/relay towers connect like ziplines? (As in they still need LOS from the top)

[nova cradle]

I will make a xiranite farm in Wuling

[sudden egret]

no LoS required, just distance

[marble yarrow]

they pass through anything

[nova cradle]

make enough xiranites so it can support both valley 4 and wulinng!

[runic epoch]

Xiranite pylons are still 30

[small creek]

wait nvm i think i got it, the localisation is just confusing
relay towers are still useful

[sudden egret]

Pylons are still 30, but can connect up to 80m to a relay. Because it's more of the Relay connecting to the pylon

[solid imp]

Relays are cooler cuz covering the map in big electric poles is your duty as a factory builder

[small creek]

yeah this part had me confused

[solid imp]

Go out there and build that factory

[nova cradle]

i will do that once i unlock the mega stock transfer thingy(?) transfer thingy i forgot what it's called

[sudden egret]

Metatrasnfer

[solid imp]

You can't yet anyway since wuling currently maxes at level 6 regional development

[nova cradle]

ahh it's fine ill just make a mass xira factory and transfer 800 at a time and make it so ill produce more than it can transfer!

[solid imp]

I don't think you can even place the necessary fluid buildings in v4

[shadow loom]

is there supposed to be an outpost for a factory in the quary??

[solid imp]

No

[nova cradle]

i only need the xiranite

[sudden egret]

Can't do anything Xiranite/Fluid in V4

[solid imp]

Originium lodesprings and the quarry don't get outposts, you have to drag power over from the next map

[shadow loom]

so why are they mines there?

[rough breach]

btw is there anyway to set limit to item in depot ? like i only want to store 100 explosive

[solid imp]

You can use relay towers between maps

[shadow loom]

oh

[solid imp]

No sadly

[sudden egret]

Maps are technically seamless

V4, despite being different "zones" is technically one map

[nova cradle]

ooh it's 400 at a time not 800 like Originium i see

[stoic hatch]

ohhooo very effective, thanks alot im done the TD

[solid imp]

But just automate explosives and let your factory make 20,000 explosives and don't worry about it, resources are infinite

[sudden egret]

Just do that very every TD, that set of 4 towers is unbeatable

[stoic hatch]

that tideflast is so annoy for his speed up range

[nova cradle]

so anyway yeah, xiranite battery in V4

im so excited

[shadow loom]

for a single amethyst mine(the single thing im looking for rn)......sigh

[stoic hatch]

roger! thanks alot

[sudden egret]

Its worth it

[shadow loom]

i have to xD

[obsidian lichen]

is it possible to make enough V4 stock bills to buy out all the essence tickets each week or nah

[sudden egret]

I do understand the annoyance of spreading power into a separate zone that doesn't have its own power source. But it's 100% worth

[grizzled storm]

yall have all your wuling stuff in one sub pac right

[sudden egret]

That's my next project. See if I can compress all my Wuling shit into the sub PAC. If I can't no biggie, only thing I'm worried about is amount of farms

[grizzled storm]

what else can you produce tho

[sudden egret]

Xiranite Component, Wuling Bats, Yazhen Syringe

[grizzled storm]

got the batteries, the components

syringe

[sudden egret]

that's all I make

[grizzled storm]

bout it?

[strong quiver]

is the wuling juice

[sudden egret]

Not enough supplies to make anything else

[grizzled storm]

ye i got my sub-pac running all of that

i think its possible to make it look nice

[strong quiver]

the same ration of material as valley 4 buck

[sudden egret]

I got my main PAC making some farming supplies

[nova cradle]

im gonna go back to building around the factory now

i wanna make my long belt look cooler some how

[sudden egret]

Honestly tho, I might just abandon the sub PAC and do everything Wuling the main. idk tho, I'm undecided

[grizzled storm]

looks like i just ran out of ferrium

[somber briar]

Where did you see this?

[sudden egret]

Yeah that's normal

[paper bane]

oh i just turn valley 4 into battery makin machine and stock bill generator lol

[grizzled storm]

wait is this the sub

[nova cradle]

i really dunnno why this caused me clogging but making the belt long doesnt lmao

[grizzled storm]

lol im confused

[paper bane]

i use hc batteries from valley 4 to transfer to wuling

12k batter last a while

[sudden egret]

Wuling isn't fully released yet

[paper bane]

hence why im only makin batteries so i can sell for stock bills

[nova cradle]

oh wait im dumb i realize now

[sudden egret]

I would have more battery production to drain stockbills, but I want parts to improve gear

[nova cradle]

im clogged because my depot is just full

[sudden egret]

That'll do it

[livid cairn]

it hunger of progress, need more facility, need more powah, the factory must grow

[nova cradle]

ohh wiat it's not suppose to do that

oh well

[paper bane]

well i reduce the stock bill amount generate by having 18/min for HC battery

because of that i can send 12k battery to wuling

and then make wuling battery to sell for bills

cause syringe still too slow

[sudden egret]

Where the fuck are you getting enough Ferrium in Wuling to make 18/m

Oh wait

I see what you're doing

[paper bane]

in valley 4

[sudden egret]

Yeah yeah

[halcyon radish]

12k batteries to wuling? like by hand?

[paper bane]

go to OMV dijang press B and just sit there transfer

[paper bane]

u can transfer pretty quick

[sudden egret]

His batteries in Wuling will slowly drain, but if he manually transfers like 1-2k a day it's no issue for him

[paper bane]

go to OMV dijang , press B select valley 4 , ctrl click battery and then switch to wujing iventory and just dump it in

[grizzled storm]

wuh

[nova cradle]

wtf

[halcyon radish]

lowk could do that too but if i ever forget i think i'd go crazy

[nova cradle]

hacks

[grizzled storm]

you can quick dump stuff into wuling?

[paper bane]

yes

[halcyon radish]

does he know

[nova cradle]

[grizzled storm]

tf

[sudden egret]

@grizzled storm Slam things into your inventory, TP over, dump into storage

[paper bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[undone ether]

go to the ship and you can move stuff quickly

[nova cradle]

more effort and no automation but if it works it works

[paper bane]

HAHAHA

[grizzled storm]

WHAT

IT JUST POPPED UP

[paper bane]

HAHAHAH

[grizzled storm]

i never check my inventory

[nova cradle]

ez ez

[paper bane]

BRO NEVER PRESS B ON DIJANG

[grizzled storm]

NO OFC NOT

[sudden egret]

[halcyon radish]

actually how much battery can osp trade in a day

[nova cradle]

who presses B on Dijiang

[grizzled storm]

😭 i only go to my ship for scamming my friends and leveling

[halcyon radish]

i always have too much stock

[paper bane]

HOW LONG HAVE YOU BEEN TRANSFER BY TELEPORT BY REGION

[nova cradle]

[paper bane]

HAHA

[grizzled storm]

dude thats insane

[grizzled storm]

oh i dont transport by region

i literally ran out of ferrium 10 minutes ago

it took a long time

[nova cradle]

I always transferred between maps!

[paper bane]

well congrats at the iventory count rn you can transfer like 1600 at once

[grizzled storm]

thats insane

[paper bane]

damn

yall need to read

HAHAHA

[halcyon radish]

that is insane

[nova cradle]

[somber briar]

I put relay from core area everywhere up to originspring, power plateu teach me it also can drag from sub pac

[halcyon radish]

the loading screen alone is like a minute

[paper bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[grizzled storm]

eh..

gotta dump my pills n shit

[paper bane]

wuling seeing 500 thousand battery from the sky

https://giphy.com/gifs/500-cigarettes-firepeg-qOSNC24lvEWTzplsJJ

[grizzled storm]

time to dump it

PERLICA DUMP FIVE HUNDRED TONS OF FERRIUM INTO THE MARKET

[paper bane]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[grizzled storm]

so it begins

ty for telling me this

thats crazy it takes a second for 1.7k

[young silo]

Is it possible to get the motorcycle?

[grizzled storm]

maybe im the miner

[sudden egret]

Keep in mind, Wuling only has like 24k storage or something like that

[grizzled storm]

ye just takes a bit

[young silo]

O

How to increase stockbill capacity

[grizzled storm]

go around leveling the depot things

[paper bane]

regional level

[grizzled storm]

oh stockbill

[paper bane]

NO

[sudden egret]

Yeah, it's level up

[paper bane]

if you want motorcycle for decorating yes

[sudden egret]

I bought the motorcycle trophy

[paper bane]

but if you wnt drive no

[sudden egret]

It sits on my ship

[young silo]

Whats stopping me from driving it

[grizzled storm]

ill max out my ferrium

[young silo]

Us asians our known for good driving

[paper bane]

real

oh i go this way goodluck everyone

[young silo]

I turn right now good luck

[grizzled storm]

so whats stopping me from doubling my ferrium usage and just manually putting ferrium into the depot

[young silo]

LDLOSLSOS

[sudden egret]

@grizzled storm Sleep

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reaction-UqKD7TU0igaUE

[grizzled storm]

what no

its only midnight

[solid imp]

If it isn't automated it sucks

[paper bane]

why you use battery

[grizzled storm]

oh wait u answerin my question

[paper bane]

sell em

[grizzled storm]

lmao

[solid imp]

Manual = bad

[sudden egret]

@grizzled storm You'll slam through 1800 ferrium an hour on a 30/m deficiet

[grizzled storm]

they havent sold enough originium powder to the locals

[sudden egret]

So depending on your deficit, you'll only survive maybe an hour or 2 after you log off

[paper bane]

you need to sell more drugs

[grizzled storm]

fuh

wuling bottleneck

[paper bane]

make em addicted , gotta let em experience the fent pose

idk why its so hilarious

[grizzled storm]

the origin pose

[paper bane]

think about it , who the fuck buy like 6000 drug capsule a

for what?? HAHA

[distant sphinx]

how much is the amortised amount of ferrium you can get per hour from level 12 metastorage transfer

[sudden egret]

Now if you're only at a 30/m Defecit, and you load it up. Use Metatransfer as well. It can over a day on that 30/m defecit

[solid imp]

A refugee shelter that gets a lot of injured people running from LBs and Aggeloi

[sudden egret]

Since metatransfer will turn it into a 5/m defecit

[paper bane]

nah nah

bunch of drug addicted

[solid imp]

Give them canned citrome instead

Get them addicted to lemons

[sudden egret]

However, I don't bother with the material transfer to Wuling, since my V4 is fully utilized.

I metatransfer only. I don't bother with manual transfering mats

[somber briar]

Slam in 28000 ferrium once every 15 hour

[paper bane]

lack of vitamin C is leading cause of death in vally IV

[red plover]

Can one packing unit supply 3 thermal bank ?

[sudden egret]

Don't forget, Originium gives super cancer. We make the drugs to stave off super cancer

[paper bane]

?

[paper bane]

liar , propaganda cause by them clanker

[solid imp]

Four but only if the packaging unit is running 100% of the time

[paper bane]

everybody know originium is safe

[sudden egret]

Originium is safe, if you're wearing protection

[shrewd knoll]

safe to cook

[solid imp]

[red plover]

Hmm soo i am guessing this set up won't suddenly kills my power or something ? At first i was working off the raw ore but i am sick of making new one everytime i expend so i cooked this up.

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/playstation-helldivers-2-helldivers2-fchCTfnBhADVrII6Mk

[solid imp]

So the only people who get rock cancer are the poors

[paper bane]

me on my way to spread democracy and capitalism in valley

[solid imp]

It looks fine yeah

[sudden egret]

@solid imp Nah, only the poors can''t afford the meds often enough

[halcyon radish]

would probably be safer to have multiple battery factories and then just connect the thermal bank to a depot unloader

[sudden egret]

The rich can still get super cancer, but they can easily afford the meds

[halcyon radish]

but that's just me

[paper bane]

endfield is just american simulator you cannot prove me wrong

[solid imp]

Wuling

[runic epoch]

It's "affordable"

[paper bane]

you bring cancer rock , and then make ppl get cancer , then you sell them the cure for high price

american health care

[red plover]

Hmm you are right, i should do that

[sudden egret]

tbf wasn't Originium important in original AK?

[marble yarrow]

i trust the splitter more than factory outputs

[solid imp]

I mean it's like the crux of the entire story and the only reason there is any sapient life

[runic epoch]

Yeah
A race wanted to live longer and escape being destroyed so they made originium (summarised heavily)

[solid imp]

Something like the only reason all the animal species became intelligent humanoids was because of originium

[paper bane]

yep this is more efficent

[solid imp]

If there was no originium then perlica would just be a pelican

[limpid shale]

I have 8k batteries that I cannot sell
About to turn off both wuling battery maker and power up my component maker and sc battery to supply power instead of wuling battery.

[sudden egret]

I don't remember much about AK. I played it for like 6 months, missed getting any fucking DPSs, so I couldn't progress. My Operators never died, but they couldn't kill anything either

Got annoyed and dipped

[paper bane]

one more note to everyone

please keep like 2k battery on you all time

[grizzled storm]

for what purpose

[solid imp]

I can't fit that many in my backpack

[paper bane]

incase of you being uh not so bright at the time and sell all battery then proceed to delete everything to make a new factory

[limpid shale]

Can only carry 50 stacks per slot

[grizzled storm]

real

[marble yarrow]

i'll be supplying this to wuling so i can branch off to component

[paper bane]

and then only to realise like

you have no power

[paper bane]

OMV dijang , strongest delivery man

[solid imp]

I've done that so many times in factorio i know not to make that mistake in Endfield lol

[thorn garnet]

dont need battery if you pray...

[solid imp]

"Why did my factory stop- oh i deleted all my steam engines, dammit"

[runic epoch]

Perlica certified

[paper bane]

POV , you a wulinger seeing 500 thousand battery orbital drop

https://giphy.com/gifs/pleading-vincent-van-gogh-please-god-gKfyusl0PRPdTNmwnD

[sudden egret]

Can''t you only supply 3 Thermals with 1 Originium input?

[solid imp]

Every thermal bank burning originium ore only makes 20 power lmao

[sudden egret]

I thought Originium got consumed at 1/6s

[paper bane]

lol just make battery lil bro

[sudden egret]

Belts can only transfer 1/2s

[solid imp]

I think it's still 4 cuz they eat one every 8s

[thorn garnet]

ITS 50! but pitaful 😄

[marble yarrow]

im actually using only originium power on wuling LMAOOO

[solid imp]

But it's super inefficient

[paper bane]

oh my god bro ,. yesterday there was a guy

who have like 20 thermal bank

[halcyon radish]

how many batteries do you need to send a day for wuling to not run out

[paper bane]

with no battery

[paper bane]

idk i send like 12k

do the math

[sudden egret]

You right I just checked, idk why I thought 6s, but its 8/s per 1

[halcyon radish]

gyahhhhh damn 12k

[marble yarrow]

[paper bane]

12k batteries last for 5and a half day

[thorn garnet]

THE EMPEROR APPROVES! :d

[sudden egret]

I feel like a battery is better in every capacity...but you do you

[paper bane]

12k last for 5 and a half day

[thorn garnet]

when you have no battery and must jumpstart the beasttttt

[paper bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[halcyon radish]

oh yeah that's fine then

[solid imp]

So you can spend 1 belt of originium ore to make 200 power burning it directly
Or use 2 belts of originium and a bit of amethyst to make 880 power from lc batteries
Hmm

[marble yarrow]

WHAT?

[halcyon radish]

probably just gonna do it whenever i remember

[solid imp]

Yeah make batteries lol

[marble yarrow]

i have tons of orig to burn

[solid imp]

Over twice as efficient

[paper bane]

just use battery lil bro

[thorn garnet]

but if you have no batteries.... 😛

[solid imp]

Make em

[tranquil marlin]

How do I get more auto-produciton formulas?

[paper bane]

tons until you realise you need to use 540/mins

[thorn garnet]

Cant make without power, 😛

[sudden egret]

@tranquil marlin More technology, find new/more plants/ores

[solid imp]

Pick up more materials
But you can't make every plant in those

[sudden egret]

But for V4 plants, that's it

[tranquil marlin]

Yeah well it's for Yahzen specifically

[marble yarrow]

diverting to xira component gives excess originium so im purposely doing it once in a while

[thorn garnet]

the org-themral bank is for when you messed up and have no other choice but to do this or destroy the entire factory

[solid imp]

It takes like 2 minutes to slap together a battery factory

[paper bane]

just make HC battery farm , i making like 18/min

[limpid shale]

Go to pylon and turn off every single building except battery maker

[marble yarrow]

but im in wuling tho

[paper bane]

transfer the battery

[solid imp]

In Wuling make xiranite battery

[marble yarrow]

i think u dont understand what im doing

[paper bane]

go on OMV dijang , press B you can transfer item between 2 region

[paper bane]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086699983769600/1439823427270610954/knownt.gif

[marble yarrow]

im purposely draining it

[solid imp]

Can i drink the xiranite juice

[marble yarrow]

im both max wuling and valley. so i know what im doing

[stoic hatch]

does anyone know about metatransfer? i forgot what it do? is it means the materials that we transfer for wuling wont affect the production on valley 4. For Examples: We need transfer 1.5k ferrium to wuling right? does it will affect the yield of it or no?

[somber briar]

2160 per day, or 4320 if you use two hc at the same time

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/STRAPPEDUS-speed-ishowspeed-i-show-s5wFafpHxqKbIEERl9

[frozen narwhal]

Is there anything I can do to speed up my battery farm?

Why is it so damn slow

[sudden egret]

@stoic hatch Creates mats out of thin air, sending the selected mats to the region every hour

[halcyon radish]

if it's efficient then no

[paper bane]

12k batteries for 5 and a half day

[solid imp]

You probably don't have enough input belts of materials
If you do though, copy and paste it

[halcyon radish]

but is it efficient tho?

[slate moat]

Where do you get fertilizer for the planting of crops???

Where do you get fertilizer for the planting of crops???

[stoic hatch]

so it wont affect any production on valley 4 even if we dont spare any ferrium for wuling anymore right?

[sudden egret]

Cow poo

[empty pulsar]

Is it 1 battery every 10 seconds when you look at the final production unit or do the materials lag behind and it idles

[solid imp]

Originium

[frozen narwhal]

I just checked and all my powders are gone

[halcyon radish]

there we go

[frozen narwhal]

[sudden egret]

Yup, metatransfer will jsut create 1500 out of thinair

[solid imp]

Time to grind more

[paper bane]

cow shit in wuling

[stoic hatch]

alright thanks alot

[halcyon radish]

open your protocol management to see where the bottleneck is

[paper bane]

1500 in1 hour while we do it in 30s

so ass bro

[sudden egret]

I would agree, if I had spare production for it

[somber briar]

1 hc per 40 second or
3 hc per 2 minutes or
90 hc per 60 minutes or
2160 hc per 24 hour

[sudden egret]

I have no spare production, so metatransfer is critical for me

[frozen narwhal]

It is still 10 seconds
But I think it's slow because I'm using battery to power 8 thermal

[paper bane]

i use calculator , just 40 x 1 and up

[solid imp]

One packaging unit can only feed 4 thermal banks

[empty pulsar]

8

[zealous lance]

is there a blueprint for just starting off in wuling?

[sudden egret]

I'm using up 100% of my ferrium in V4, so only way I can get Wuling more Ferrium is via Metatransfer

[dim bolt]

does this work for now 🙏 i just reached this point 💔

[frozen narwhal]

Well damn

[paper bane]

uh yeah? kinda?

idk if well consider starter tbh

[zealous lance]

could u send pls

[paper bane]

since i got every single nodes

[strong quiver]

yeah 80% of the battery line is just belts

[solid imp]

Packaging unit makes 1 battery every 10 seconds, or 6 per minute
One thermal bank eats 1 battery every 40 seconds, or 1.5 per minute

[strong quiver]

[paper bane]

ye let me teleport

also im in asia

[zealous lance]

well nodes aren't rlly the problem more of the upgrades imo

[strong quiver]

also make sure the output is 2

and then those 2 also split into 2

[sudden egret]

It's half efficient on Xiranite, about 1/4 for the component, but it's a start

[paper bane]

you got regional lvl 5 ?

i think you need 4 or 5 i belive

[dim bolt]

i can see that now that you say it but its still smth ig

[frozen narwhal]

I guess I'm just gonna have to figure this out

[zealous lance]

erm its still lv1, I haven't gotten far into the story yet

[heavy olive]

heyo darkinfestor, I slightly alterred my battery prod, wanna see?

[sudden egret]

Honestly, don't worry about being space efficient in Wuling, you have way more space than you could possibly actually need. So just focus on getting the ratios correct

[solid imp]

Make more batteries by expanding the factory

[tranquil marlin]

ok so now I finally can start getting a decent setup on
I just need about like 100 yahzen then I can start up my xiranite farm

[sudden egret]

Sure why not

[solid imp]

Splitters that only split one way

Lmao

[heavy olive]

design choice :>

[sudden egret]

It works, but you only need 1 protocol storage

[heavy olive]

I like symmetry

[solid imp]

Splitters count against your facility limit btw

[paper bane]

EFO01ouiIueAo363oIieO

[sudden egret]

This will rarely matter for most people tbh

[zealous lance]

asia right?

[limpid shale]

You going to hate water pipe lines

[paper bane]

ye

[marble yarrow]

i think theres a problem with this one

[heavy olive]

D:

[zealous lance]

aight i appreciate it

[heavy olive]

wha's wrong with it?

[steep wadi]

i ran out of sanity (literally)

[solid imp]

Also your ratio is wrong
3 thermal banks will want 3/4ths of your battery production but you're only giving them 1/2

[steel narwhal]

such a terrible quest wtf

[steep wadi]

just leave it in the background

[frozen narwhal]

Ohh
I will be using this design

[solid imp]

Don't it's wrong

[sudden egret]

He's right. Have your 1st splitter on each separate, otherwise half of your batteries are going into storage

[zealous lance]

what is this monstrosity

[steel narwhal]

i got 4 equip draining this crap and it doesn't even budge i think

[steep wadi]

duh it's 40k unit of water

[paper bane]

you also need these

[steep wadi]

just leave it in the background

[frozen narwhal]

Oh
I'm stupid

[steep wadi]

it's a sidequest anyways

[zealous lance]

[solid imp]

I not a he

[steel narwhal]

what i want to know is if this will get drained eventually

[paper bane]

shit , i forgot to hook up the shredder for the syringe

[steep wadi]

yes
the dude even messages you

takes about 5hours and a half with 2 pumps

[sudden egret]

@solid imp mb, I default to he. Remnant from growing up in the 00's tbh

[steep wadi]

and no i didn't wait for it i just did some math

[steel narwhal]

https://klipy.com/gifs/wait-a-minute-wait-what-6

[heavy olive]

huh, it seemed to be fine on my part, my yield's a consistent 1/10sec and each thermal is 1/40sec, so I figured if I use 3 per unit, I still have 1 more free to store for marketplace, there hasn't been an imbalance so far

[steel narwhal]

yeah i didn't stutter at all, terrible quest

[solid imp]

You do but the way you have your belts set up you're sending half to storage instead

[sudden egret]

The problem is, half your batteries are going into storage, and the other 3 are being split by the 2nd half. I can see you want 1/4 to go to storage

[heavy olive]

I can share it in blueprints if wanted

[sudden egret]

The game is not smart, it's super dumb. It sees 2 output spots. It sends into each one equally

[solid imp]

Each output from the machines will output half of the batteries (3/m in this case) so you only have 3/m going to your thermal banks instead of the 4.5 you want

[heavy olive]

o

[strong quiver]

is the wuling battery

[heavy olive]

oops

[strong quiver]

mroe efficienty than the purple Valley 4battery

[paper bane]

well back to finding more chest

[heavy olive]

thank you both, I'll revise rq 😭

[paper bane]

rn no , later yes

[solid imp]

[frozen narwhal]

I don't really use blueprints because I want to torture myself

[paper bane]

right now yeah the amount you get is so little its better off just sell em , and transfer HC battery from valley IV

[empty pulsar]

Or just streamline all battery production into the depot and output them from a single offloader/the AIC, why so complicated

[steel narwhal]

they should increase zipline limit. i love ziplines

[sudden egret]

@heavy olive Your packagings only see 2 outputs, so it'll have even distribution on those two outputs. It doesn't take into account anything after that

[paper bane]

FACTS

[steep wadi]

same here but also because my ego won't let me depend on others

[marble yarrow]

@heavy olive

[solid imp]

Be careful, you might start liking the factory gameplay
Then you'll want more once you max out endfield
Then you'll go buy satisfactory or factorio and no one will hear from you for 3 years

[paper bane]

How i feel when im in this chat

[frozen narwhal]

Sounds about right

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mcgillu-mcgill-university-library-1wPAqSWsoZdz3qY6eA

[steep wadi]

good

i want him to join us

[heavy olive]

yeh I just noticed that, I'm making a really small revision to fix that design flaw

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/mcgillu-mcgill-university-3pZhyDpeZRy46gsO9i

POV ppl in Aic factory

[sudden egret]

At one point I was proud of this...now I look at it in disgust

[steep wadi]

you have no idea how much of a headache real factory games are compared to endfield

[solid imp]

Yeah that works