aic-factory

[crimson inlet]

just add 1 splitter bro

no need to have 3 splitters and a bridge

[trim star]

ok now this knot works

i dont know why it wasnt working before but hopefully the simulation doesnt break on me

[trim star]

yeah i could split it into 6 belts and make it look nicer but that's not the point of this is it

[runic epoch]

Is this to decrease the tick rate of xiranite that goes into the components

[brave vapor]

not really tick, just how fast they get xiranite

[trim star]

it keeps brekaing

im pretty sure it's just convergers being really bad

lmao

[brave vapor]

being mostly nitpicky and pedantic cause thats a minecraft term ngl

[wild patrol]

Does anyone knows where's the eco farm to plant?

[trim star]

yeah cant have splitters next to a converger

because of the converger bug

i forgot about that tbh

[hidden temple]

convergers or splitters being directly next to each other breaks it
if you add a belt in between, it won't break

[undone ether]

the science park iirc. Unless you mean in wuling then idk

[trim star]

ok one without converger bug

finally works

thank god for that

[wild patrol]

In wuling

[quaint kernel]

Is that a good double input to make the disk required for the purple equipement?

[trim star]

the splitter wants to place the thing into the converger, sees it's already full, and instead splits it the other two ways

it will repeat indefinitely and it's not fixable, so instead of making a 5/6th like how it should work (converger logic performs before splitter), i was just making a convoluted 3/4 (because the second splitter always sees one path that's fully blocked)

anyways yeah can they fix converger bug

xd

[broken fern]

can someone show me their wuling seed farms? now that I gotta incorporate water im not really sure how to arrange my farms

[indigo aurora]

is there any early wuling base?

[trim star]

in other news hey we're up to 20k now

[undone ether]

Its not even a bug. It just doesnt have the ability to hold stacks of items

[indigo aurora]

i just got into area and cant find anything in bps

[trim star]

it is a bug

[cyan inlet]

Good news is that i managed to stabilize my productions so i can steadily make cryston and xaranite parts but slowly though

[trim star]

if they developed it correctly the converger should be performing its action at the same time before the splitter does it, as they work on the same pace, but because the splitter places the item into the converger THEN the converger sends items (obviously, cause one comes after the other) the converger will never perform as intended

[odd cedar]

weird from your explanation it should work tho, converger logic attempting "pulls" before splitters attemptiong "pushes"

[trim star]

splitter attempts to place item in converger and sees there is already item in converger, thus it will never send the item to the converger

[runic epoch]

It was the only term that came to my head at the moment

[trim star]

this flipflops between on and off as the converger tries to free itself from the loop every other tick

but because of that logic it will always work as a one half splitter

[quaint kernel]

Anyone?

[odd cedar]

but of course there will be weird intereactions in ratios
splitter: i wanted to put to the left
converger (on the right): pulls from splitter
or,
splitter: i wanted to put to the right(where converger is)
converger: i want to take from the other lane

[trim star]

especially with the way i lined it up, the item that was sent from the left lane will land in the converger at the exact moment the other converger wants to send an item to it, which messes it up even more

[dull bone]

in AIR income report, what is default is based on? ITs defo not alpha

[trim star]

that is not how a converger works

it cant "take" from another lane it just always does its cycle and if there's nothing it will take from the next avaliable item

convergers dont "take" items

[indigo aurora]

guys is there any layout for early wuling i just unlocked 2 outposts no upgrades

[shrewd knoll]

it's not even a double input since it's not speeding up your belts

[odd cedar]

or do they check for whether lanes are sending items?

[calm crow]

What in the zipline?

[quaint kernel]

How so?

[alpine whale]

For dense orignium powder, should i have 2 orignium powder + 1 sandleaf powder belt in since it's a 2:1 ratio?

[shrewd knoll]

everything works at 2 second per unit, your belt cant handle that when you merge them

[thick plume]

This was the beginning of my factory (i ran out of length)

[novel herald]

Mmm can I refer u to a video? Easier to explain

[shrewd knoll]

they are only for finished products which works at 10 second per unit

[trim star]

converger logic tldr
holds three items internally and will send onto one lane while alternating between all 3 inputs
if there is no item within the internal slot, will immediately take the item

if it is trying to send from an empty slot, shifts by one

[quaint kernel]

Ah so I have to use two different inputs for each sides instead of merging them?

[ancient zinc]

You won’t believe what I’ve done with Wuling outpost of boredom

[trim star]

basically think of it as a weird storage block

[frigid scarab]

You can tell by looking at the recipe and its time units. It requires 2 and 1 every 2 seconds, so 3 total belts

[shrewd knoll]

yes, they need their own belts to move at full speed with the intermediaries

[novel herald]

Yes

[thick plume]

Oh boy

[trim star]

it stores the item first, then sends it on the next avaliable tick GIVEN it's that lane's turn

[ancient zinc]

[trim star]

the storing part will always take place if it is able to, but the sending part will perform before storing an item

[thick plume]

Would it make josh proud is the question

[trim star]

thus, splitter sees dead slot, doesnt send, then converger sends and is like "why didn't you send to me"

resulting in converger bug

[quaint kernel]

Like that?

[trim star]

peak

[shrewd knoll]

yes

[quaint kernel]

Okay, thank you!

[odd cedar]

1 belt = 1 item per 2 sec or 5 items per 10 sec

if it requires 10 items per 10 sec then you need 2 input belts

[indigo aurora]

yes please

[trim star]

as you can see from these graphs it's solid

11/min consistent and 1/min every other minute for components so im getting the expected results

this is really funny though

[frigid scarab]

Component line is power hungry there

[simple fractal]

my HC battery has multiple examples of this concept

[trim star]

power is a nonissue thankfully i dont think it'll be an issue until two more forges or smth

[dull bone]

what component use for again? just gear?

[odd cedar]

ya i know i was just saying it for the guy that needed help's sake lel

[simple fractal]

I know, I butted in to show an example

[frigid scarab]

With component line and turrets turned off you only need 1 battery every 40s instead of 2

[trim star]

this is the wackiest refinery ive seen ever

[trim star]

not true

[frigid scarab]

I mean, do you need screenshots?

[trim star]

1. i have no turrets
2. your math is just completely wrong

3. all of my power is used on ziplines

:)

so no, you're not correct

[frigid scarab]

Ziplines are worth.

[scenic comet]

your second forge in wuling should have 75% go to bats and 25% go to components, like this:

[trim star]

just do the math yourself

[odd cedar]

that purple battery maker looks small tho

[simple fractal]

It ain’t optimized lel I’m still using SC battery for main power supply, HC is passive

[trim star]

2400-75 is in fact not less than 1800

thus i will never be under the power threshold to use one lc battery

i could use, maybe like half of one i just dont like throttling

[ancient zinc]

How’s the factory Endmins

[warm solar]

Need tips on compacting my current HC Battery production line (and in general)

[scenic comet]

i never throttles just because A) i generate enough to fully buyout the outposts and B) the popup msg is annoying

[trim star]

the sandleaf shredder makes 3 dust, so you can have it send to both sides

then it's just ratio

[shrewd knoll]

move the pylon....

[trim star]

you need 6 originium to 3 grinders and 4 ferrium to 2 other grinders

[trim star]

^^^^

i hate the popup

it's so bad

[shrewd knoll]

your belts dont have to be straight, they can be other orientations too

[trim star]

i dont really care about an extra .5/m usage really

that's why i made the 5/6th splitter in the first place

[warm solar]

Yea I just cobbled this in a hurry since I was running out of the blue batteries

[simple fractal]

this is how mine is set up if it helps but i dont use it as main power supply just passive stock gain

[ebon ginkgo]

i will be honest its impossible to plan something at this corner .. why it isnt like Both sides of the hub with the depots instad of this silly L form

[trim star]

this is unironically just all i have in this area

[odd cedar]

i think you can put sand leaf in the very corner, that's what i'd do

[simple fractal]

🤷‍♂️

[trim star]

you can do it, you just have to stretch the conveyors from them REALLY far to create a curve where every machine is on the corner of another one

[odd cedar]

well unless you plan to add a seeder

[trim star]

basically it's not worth it

sandleaf shredder is yeah your best bet in the corner

[bright wyvern]

Should I be putting turrets up by my mining equipment?

[trim star]

no

[rain axle]

modified the small xirnite farm into this

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

[trim star]

they got the double forge setup one row narrower again

[simple fractal]

ima be honest i havent even built anything in wuling yet im still messing around in the valley IV

[frigid scarab]

Any suggestions for starting to learn about making more compact blueprints? Too used to factorio infinite space

[odd cedar]

it's similar if you use loaders alot in factorio

[brave vapor]

if youve already finished factorio, this wont be as brutally hard

[shrewd knoll]

train car only factorio with no belts

[brave vapor]

the game gives you plenty of space to screw around

[simple fractal]

get used to not being able to walk around and either watch content creators and get ideas or copy bp codes

[brave vapor]

honestly, its more fun trying to find out how your build comes out

[rain axle]

yeah and therecis still bottom area with empty space

[trim star]

did we really place the depot bus anywhere except the center of the map

[warm solar]

Both sides? You mean, both originium and ferrium sides

[trim star]

wtf

[jagged slate]

Absolute nonsense 🥹

[trim star]

tbf it's only one of the sides but

[ancient zinc]

Since current Wuling depo limit is 40k something and my Xira about to hit its limit…

I had to make extra wuling battery product line

[trim star]

it's dense enough to make a 6x6 corner work

somehow if you're determined enough

[brave vapor]

and also, this game still promotes the factorio style of factory sim where you want the raw ore to be turn into what you want in 1 continous line over minecraft ae2 style of 1 machine makes something then teleport that over to another machine in 1 centralized network

[livid cairn]

I miss factorio underground connection

[shrewd knoll]

factorio encourages main bus where you mass produce and overflow and you siphon from it, totally not like this

[odd cedar]

you could underground belt through buildings

[simple fractal]

Guess I’m special ed since I have 2 camps producing refining and grinding items and others building and combining

[trim star]

if we had tunnels making dense machines would be pretty stupid easy

[toxic pelican]

Btw any blueprint for wuling

[brave vapor]

mostly due to slower belts and also, most of the item produced doesnt really get used anywhere else, you can just setup a simple line for parts that is needed for constructing stuff

[rain axle]

After wuling, We go underground

[simple fractal]

[ancient zinc]

#1461542035617091681 check here

[toxic pelican]

Needed to destroy some ankhor

[trim star]

no lie only real factory game i played for a reasonable amount of time was shapez

[runic epoch]

It's fine for mid game but it's not efficient if you want the maximum profits

[ebon ginkgo]

I rather avoid the corner

[rugged grotto]

How much originium ore can you get in wuling

[trim star]

360

wukong

[brave vapor]

the game gives you plenty of depot and space to fuck around, i'm more than willing to bet he can reach 18/18 with that

[ancient zinc]

[warm solar]

6x6 corner battery production with the depot bus?

[ancient zinc]

When meets wukong

[trim star]

no just a 6x6 where you process sandleaf

[simple fractal]

https://tenor.com/view/at-least-one-maybe-two-william-newberry-goremiser-smite-one-possibly-two-gif-17355328

[rain axle]

After underground, We will be at mid air

[toxic pelican]

Btw what can get max regional fastest on wuling

[trim star]

my fauly 7x7

i forgot about the unloader tile

but it's like

[simple fractal]

Me when liberi

[trim star]

at this point why

there's not really a reason to

[ancient zinc]

But materials will cry unless transferred manually if have patience to do it

[odd cedar]

speeeeeeen

[ancient zinc]

Pew pew pew

Or ZAAAAAHP

[simple fractal]

You remind me of the one dude that submitted the bp to the event and it was just called orginium air dry or something like that and it wasted 1 bus loader and 1 un loader just to loop originium

[trim star]

like the isuse with building in the corner is that every successive building adds n squared more required space on the other side

[ancient zinc]

@trim star ima show I someone but on team build instead..

[odd cedar]

i just drew mine to look like a vehicle lol

sorta looks like a tank idk

[warm solar]

So a separate facility just for sandleaf shredding?

[odd cedar]

sandleaf shredding should be done onsite

it's 3 lanes of sandleaf powder if you're gonna drag it across the map or 3 unloaders

[toxic pelican]

How many wuling battery creation needed to be made at minimum

[shrewd knoll]

they were discussing using the corner bus where you have too many unused unloading locations

[outer patrol]

what is the common current yield rate build and is theoritical yield can be achieve? i mean for buck capsule A

[shrewd knoll]

it's viable in that location only

[trim star]

i would say just dont try making a build in the corner

[livid cairn]

I use single wuling battery factory running at 100% for two battery, It's enough for now

[trim star]

like it's cool for the novelty but it's too bulky in the other two dimensions

[warm solar]

Oh, so three separate lines of powder

[odd cedar]

more than that actually

[runic epoch]

18

[odd cedar]

to fully power a purple battery maker you need 6 lines of sandleaf powder, or 2 lines of sandleaf

[outer patrol]

is that like in valley iv area capsule only? or the factory aof capsule and hc battery combine?

[trail mirage]

which side is ferr part and which is steel part

[trim star]

they're the same thing

[late zodiac]

These both look like ferrium parts

Steel is a darker color

[runic epoch]

18 for Capsule A
18 for HC Battery

[outer patrol]

is that in same area factory? or seperate area on capsule and battery factory?

[obtuse escarp]

What item should I be metastoraging over to Wuling?

[odd cedar]

i'm doing ferrium bottles

[runic epoch]

Totals from pacs and subpacs

[trim star]

ferrium bottles and raw ferrium are equally efficient

[outer patrol]

i see thanks.. i thought its just in valley iv area overall lol

[warm solar]

Two unloaders of sandleaf that connects to 2-3 shredders just to not have clogs and efficiently get battery?

[runic epoch]

It is just the valley 4 overall

[outer patrol]

i mean the first pac only

[tawdry gate]

Hi how do I get my AIC factory to fit in the screen

[runic epoch]

Oh
When Valley 4 is mentioned it consists of all the areas

[livid cairn]

1 sandleaf produce 3 powder when shreded, you need to connect all shredder output so it does not cloged

[sly knoll]

I think I'm missing two dataloggers even though my entire map for Valley 4 is explored?

Do you get any more from other sources

[warm solar]

Aight, thanks

Back to the drawing board it is

[odd cedar]

you should have one sandleaf powder line left unused but yeah that's minor

[toxic pelican]

Which plant best for carbon

[distant sphinx]

for producing xia batteries I assume that using wuling plants for carbon is better?

[toxic pelican]

I forgot

[odd cedar]

the 2 new water plants

[ebon ginkgo]

SC Battery - VS - HC Battery

Is it even useful to build purple batteries at all? I mean u literally need same resources like you would produce 2x blue. But u need way more space and buildings for. Also these buildings need even more energy as well so what is the benefit of doing purple at all?

[hidden temple]

make a 1x50 blueprint, just put a single belt on each end to make it
when placing it, the camera zooms out more than usual

it only zooms out far enough to view a whole subPAC. main AIC you'll just have to collage, if a screenshot's what you're after

[runic epoch]

HC gives you way much more total capacity

[ebon ginkgo]

But how much more

[runic epoch]

HC gives you 1100

[tawdry gate]

Ah ok got it tyvm

[ebon ginkgo]

That's the struggle it's not the real number my friends base consume 8 HC batteries but only has 5740 energy but he should have 8800 in that case ...

Also sure 2 purple give around 800 energy but u also spend way less into the production at all. U have may 1100 with one purple but nearly need this 300 extra for all the buildings

[runic epoch]

Then it's a case of how he sets up his thermal banks

[shut rover]

Is this a good hc battery production blueprint

The steel is directly fed to fitting unit

[runic epoch]

4 thermal banks powered by HC is enough to power most endgame factories

[shut rover]

Couldn't figure out a good design that involved using grinding unit

[young silo]

best way to farm origium in wuling i am brok

[open shore]

I left this hooked up wrong for a day

[shrewd knoll]

hit the rocks and put it in the box

[toxic pelican]

Is there way to access depot from another region

[silent umbra]

you can access them both from space

[open shore]

[odd cedar]

that's alot of sandleaf powder going to storage XD

[livid cairn]

well, it will run at 30%, but if you just want to make it for selling it and not use it for power then it's fine.

[shut rover]

Its for power

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1449590334190391346.png?quality=lossless&name=vergil_sad&size=480

[heady geyser]

Is there a channel for the early warning systems? Me bad at placing things

[livid cairn]

you need 2 more of grinder producing dense originium powder. that way it will run 100%

enough for 4 battery

[runic epoch]

Cheese with surge towers

[heady geyser]

Just all surge towers?

[shut rover]

I see

[shrewd knoll]

you can also place sentry towers OUTSIDE the outpost near the incursion points, for more turret pew pew

[tawdry gate]

And beam towers for the bosses

[odd cedar]

which site and which level tho? o.o

[heady geyser]

Infra station 3

[late zodiac]

I use mostly surge towers and a few sentry towers closer to the end of the track to pick off a smaller number of healthier targets that make it that far. Beam towers for the axe horns

[runic epoch]

I remember using surge towers, marsh and a beam for the double push

[odd cedar]

round round thingy = 1 surge + 2 beam
lane 3 = marsh gas + 2 surge
lane 2 = sentry + 2 surge ?

idk don't remember

[late zodiac]

Wait so like you can circumvent the placement limit and spawn camp?

[shrewd knoll]

yes if the turret range can reach the lanes

[late zodiac]

Goofy

[stiff laurel]

huh... I did the math, to compare purple and blue batteries for power. On my end purple batteries only get you 20% more power for the resources but use like 75% more space per unit of power. Considering how finite space is, I'm pretty sure purple isn't worth burning for power O_o

[obtuse nacelle]

how should I optimize Wuling so I can make more bills right now?

[hidden temple]

I used 3-5 HE nades, 2-4 marsh gas and 2 sentries for all the tower def

[obtuse nacelle]

the ore sucks ass right now since there’s only two areas

[low obsidian]

IT WORKS 😄

[late zodiac]

Opposite is true, space is more available than resources.

[strong quiver]

In my honest opinion

Always get the sandleaf grinder locally

[odd cedar]

holy

[strong quiver]

[low obsidian]

Nah
Marsh + HE and sentry is better

[strong quiver]

Noo don't fill the pool with gatorade

[low obsidian]

I cleared all stage with
Sentry + marsh + HE

[shrewd knoll]

Sentry is just too good, range wise and that all towers shoot through geometry

[low obsidian]

[spare condor]

any1 have bp for wuling AIC and sub endgame? (asia server)

[low obsidian]

Yeah range wise and targeting wise

The beam one doesn't mainly target on boss

In late stages boss are so annoying

[shrewd knoll]

Surge tower kind of falls off after the second incursion

[odd cedar]

you definitely need sentry for the teleporting one tho

[rugged grotto]

At end game you get hc battery in abundance, and it sells for more

[low obsidian]

And slower

[tawdry gate]

Beam + Surge + Sonic works too just need to place it right

[runic epoch]

For real ?
I beat all four with surge towers and marsh

[next prairie]

Is it required to use water on the plant-seed system in wuling? Unlike V4’s system?

[low obsidian]

I mainly selling blue battery

[late zodiac]

You can dedicate all of the ferrium/originium ore output of valley IV to making HC battery and Buck A without nearly running out of space

[shrewd knoll]

the fact that you have to use wuling towers is pretty much saying something

[low obsidian]

Turn it off for the sandleaf

Turn it on for yazheng and jincao

[runic epoch]

I forgor to do them until I finished wuling

[low obsidian]

I just realized the achievement exists for this part

[shrewd knoll]

and the wuling defense is so cheesable because one lane goes right by your subPAC which u can line up with so many sentries as well

[tawdry gate]

Cleared all the diffs with mostly surge and some beam towers so idk Abt that

[strong quiver]

what;s

the maximum amount of buck A you can produce in Valley 4 anyway

[runic epoch]

18 is the most ideal
I think there was 24 but that isn't quite sustainable

[junior wind]

how do i get power to other map areas

[shrewd knoll]

cable guy simulator

[runic epoch]

I dunno how you did the math but the difference between SC and HC is roughly a 89% increase if we're doing 1 for 1

[celest beacon]

some areas you can run relays right through the zone transition, others you need to unlock the next base and run power from there.

[ancient zinc]

I wonder why no one is doing VC stream here…🤔

[shut rover]

Pre rebuild batts

[ancient zinc]

For question and answer purposes

[jagged slate]

is there a way to make all of the powder only go to the left, right now it splits it randomly

[odd cedar]

cut off the belt

[silent umbra]

why are you using a splitter if you dont want it to split

[celest beacon]

if you want it all to go left, why have a splitter at all then?

[ancient zinc]

[jagged scroll]

I'm curious? How do I turn the blueprint, so it isn't 90 degree turned in the blueprint preview?

[alpine bone]

Managed to squeeze in a bunch of ziplines in 1.8k power. 😬 guess i have to add another thermal bank now.

[jagged slate]

oh u cant see in that ss but is 2 dif materials

[shrewd knoll]

if you want to use a fail safe kind of belt, push it through the protocol stash

[digital bear]

god i wish we had underground belts

[jagged slate]

ones powder and the other is the crafted part

[digital bear]

[silent umbra]

dont do this

[digital bear]

undeground belts...

[jagged slate]

i want the parts to go straight and the powder to split off

[silent umbra]

one material per belt

[runic epoch]

Press R

[somber briar]

Use control port too at other side

[ancient zinc]

The heck is dat line up

[strong quiver]

anybody from Asia got a battery line

from start to finish

[ancient zinc]

I mean 1 wrong material position will ruined and make it clog

[celest beacon]

it looks like BPs are oriented true north, so rotate it first, then save

[strong quiver]

correct me if i'm wrong but isn't that belt already stacked

belt is capped at 1 per 2 second

[shrewd knoll]

maybe hes inputting only one lane of ore and producing 2 materials to store/use

[jagged scroll]

damn, don't have the money for those depots yet. Only after next daily reset.

[strong quiver]

so making them use the same line doesn't work

[shrewd knoll]

you dont question the intention

[tranquil cove]

the regime continues on

[jagged slate]

u got it, thank you. Dudes treating me like im crazy, my mind is 6 layers above

[livid cairn]

you want LC, SC, or HC?

[ancient zinc]

6 layer above but didn’t figured it out then ask people.

[jagged slate]

a true man knows when to bow his head

[livid cairn]

my HC use entire Sub PAC, not very efficient

[strong quiver]

the HC one

[strong quiver]

i use my subpac for refinery and buck a bottling

[runic epoch]

I think xlice has a good blueprint for it
It's quite space efficient

[strong quiver]

looking for a fast battery line to convert to on the spot

power generation

[edgy grotto]

Is this max ? Battery can be 12 if stop components tho

[digital bear]

guys is it possible to shove an entire buck capsule b setup into only 6 blocks of vertical space

[odd cedar]

wait they changed it that metatransfer can transfer raw materials? o.o i thought it was only semiproducts?

[shrewd knoll]

It can transfer anything that can be found or made in that region regardless if you have any of it in your stockpile

cryston bottles forever

[livid cairn]

Here it is

EFO013o78U19uUaO0579

[nova cradle]

i finally made my xiranite battery factory! It's working as intended! This is a prototype :'D

[odd cedar]

maybe i accidentally pressed on the products button. oh well

[nova cradle]

i need more originium to make it sustain itself more

[thorn garnet]

check the ratios, you might be a bit light on the org

[shrewd knoll]

you should be running it to the procotol stash and then output from it into the bank

[stray lotus]

Whats the meta wulin factory rn? I need a good blueprint I got a alright one the other day that produces a few batteries and the gear things but tbh I need more credits than the gear stuff rn.

[shrewd knoll]

33% efficiency, u cant even run that bank 100% as the way it is

[nova cradle]

ooh i see but why btw

[slender rivet]

what is best way to grind stock bills?

[shrewd knoll]

because it only gets 16% of the batteries, which is less than 1 per 40 seconds

[odd cedar]

6 ori ore line -> 3 golden cube line -> battery line

[runic epoch]

The stock market

[shrewd knoll]

while going through the protocol stash, u store excess but you have the bank running 100%

[nova cradle]

i mean what am i suppose to do with the stash? set into storage mode?

[shrewd knoll]

no it will pass right through if it can

once it can't it starts storing them

[nova cradle]

huh?

[shrewd knoll]

just try it, there is a output on the protocol storage

its not only for storing

[nova cradle]

what am i suppose to do with the stash?

[shrewd knoll]

literally run a belt from your battery factory -> protocol stash -> thermal bank

[nova cradle]

you're saying that's what i should do with my current factory?

or is it based onn some optimal xiranite factory build?

cuz i didnt copy mine from it

[shrewd knoll]

no its for your factory specifically since its producing at 33% efficiency

and you are splitting it 2 ways into storage and a thermal bank

which probably won't keep the thermal bank up 100%

[nova cradle]

oki

ill just do it LOL

i literally dunno still why but thanks

my brain is thinnking like

if i put the stash first before bank thenn it means the battery will go into the depot

[shrewd knoll]

nah the depot operates every 10s

and it never gets stored if a output is present

priority goes to output belts

[shut rover]

Is that actually the optimal way

[shrewd knoll]

so once it starts clogging at the thermal bank, you net the batteries into storage

[shrewd knoll]

it is for his situation

[shut rover]

I guess i should do the same

[nova cradle]

hmmmm okay!!!

[shut rover]

Although i just stacked up max on banks and have another belt beside it to stash

[nova cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/hunter-x-hunter-hx-h-anime-idea-gon-gif-21474694

[nova cradle]

wow it's working

i dunnno why but this is so cool hahahaha

[thorn lance]

I think my Ferrium is on a seizure.. why is it not at 1080 yield?

[nova cradle]

my sample xira battery rn is not going red

[slender rivet]

what should i do first with stock bills

[shrewd knoll]

upgrade stuff that gets you more stock bills

[slender rivet]

like what i donno much

[somber briar]

Some things dont work at 100% efficiency

[fringe geode]

SO HOW DID IT TURN OUT!?

[shrewd knoll]

the depots or the place where you buy stocks

[steep wadi]

Base upgrade, stock redistribution area, depot nodes, recycling spots

Or just spend them

[shrewd knoll]

not so much base upgrade or recycling spots...

[steep wadi]

Just do it if you need to

[shrewd knoll]

they dont get you more money in the short term

[steep wadi]

Do deliveries for a headstart

[slender rivet]

then im gonna go with depot nodes ig

[somber briar]

Do your deliveries after upgrading your depot

[halcyon radish]

it'll catch up eventually

[nova cradle]

sorry if i sound like im asking too much but can you please explain this again 😭

[novel herald]

1 thermal bank consumes 1.5 battery per minute, if u're using 2 thermal bank, and u produce less than 3 per min, you won't have enough battery to supply them

[shrewd knoll]

You are operating your factory at 33% capacity which you had 2 outputs to one thermal bank and one storage. It will divide that 33% into 16% to the thermal bank which will cause it to not be operational 100%. Reducing the outgoing belt makes it so that you get ~1.8 batteries which does cover the 1.5 per minute.

[lean bramble]

do we only get the 3rd subpac in valley 4 after beating the lv45 boss thing

[shrewd knoll]

the protocol stash to thermal bank is just a gimmick of the protocol stash

[scenic comet]

really happy with how this mostly compact wuling battery blueprint turned out, no depot needed; https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466394005783969883/1467740135360565329/100_battery.png?ex=69817b05&is=69802985&hm=aab430565ff02b9314f62a6cc4d6e95547dfc91e25ba0846d779d072690b5bf1&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1403&height=1290

[shrewd knoll]

it will also store the 0.3 batteries you have excess if it ever clogs up

[buoyant cobalt]

guys is there a factory that makes t creds

[shrewd knoll]

in addition to any improvements you make to the factory to get its performance up

its future proofing your belt process

[nova cradle]

omg yeah i had the same idea! like, my bank will go less so i put a stash there but I didn't know I was doing it in a bad way LOL

[warped garnet]

whats the point of a separating unit?
i feel like its the most useless machine and cant think of any situation i would need one lol

[rain schooner]

is amethyst yield meant to be so low? I have every vein unlocked and its only 60 a min?

[nova cradle]

i understand now thank you!

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-i-understand-it-now-lethal-shooter-lethal-shot-logo-shot-gif-8022458474409205037

[sudden egret]

If you have every Amethyst node, along with Level 10 or 11 RDM, you should be at 240/m

[rain schooner]

really? Im max level and Im checking my thing and it says only 60/min

[low obsidian]

[low obsidian]

Maybe you didn't take the one in the Mine

[sudden egret]

Double check they're all powered, you may have to go to each node

[shrewd knoll]

so you are max level with 3 rigs running next to your main PAC

[median sentinel]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/842365710705623043/1467738955473752291/image.png?ex=698179ec&is=6980286c&hm=9128dca39604961c77c3c2ac4f1a302f7c8a8bbf86f6c48e43c29e9542b910f0&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1007&height=969

bros,
Im about to make a new factory, smaller and more efficient.
but this was my old battery factory from outpost #2 which i reserved for power, and i just used lots of road to make it elegant and clear - that part is not what im asking abouthere

Thermal Bank #3 is not stacking up the way the others are, even tho all 3 batterymakers are getting the same flow, and the division looks perfectly even to me, i have no idea why #3 isnt stacking up the same. at this point i had it written down as a bug but i been told theres a complex reason for this

[shrewd knoll]

in a patch with 6

[rain schooner]

huh?

[low obsidian]

There is mining area for amethyst in the mine zone (without PAC so you must pull from the HUB)

[nova cradle]

@shrewd knoll im gonna need to double check the other factories i built now that you lete me know this idea LOL

[dry dragon]

After you have enough gears for gold gear that's the final form of the wuling factories? 2 batteries?

[nova cradle]

im about to show you some cool factories

[shrewd knoll]

thats only for directly plugging into a thermal bank though

[nova cradle]

layouts i did

[nova cradle]

oooh so only for thermal bank

[paper bane]

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-drawing-shifu-drawing-master-shifu-1000-yard-stare-gif-4555347630673863855

now i look at it closer i uh , have no word

[bleak frigate]

Salutes what is refreshed of the bills shop? Like some just get sold out and no refresh

[nova cradle]

i see i see hahahaha

[shrewd knoll]

theres nothing u can do with it for other stuff with this knowledge

[low obsidian]

[nova cradle]

this is really funny hahaha

[median sentinel]

it is a very handsome factory how dare u~

[rain schooner]

does the yield number drop if youre at max amount?

[somber briar]

There is 3 packaging unit and 4 thermal, its not an even distribution

[nova cradle]

i thought i have this factory game figured out but you make it have a deeper niche to it im glad you help me optimize my bank 😂

[hidden temple]

you can shorten the belts here, raise up the entire bottom half by 1
might just have to rotate the shredder on the left

[median sentinel]

? they are distributed evenly. look at theroads, they all get 2 with the spare 9th redistributed across 4

[tired shore]

fitting all of the current production limits into no size upgrades was suprisingly easy, had so much room leftover as well

[paper bane]

my brother in christ , just putting battery in the thermal bank you already make it so complicated

[low obsidian]

Actually for battery farm and usage in one spot

You can just put a protocol stash behind the Thermal bank

So if it's 50 battery already the remaining will be pulled to the inventory (infinite energy works)

[worthy vigil]

Guys what rate of production in originium and ferrium is considered as late game

[paper bane]

its not an even distribution

[median sentinel]

it is

[low obsidian]

In wuling it's

[runic epoch]

560 / 1080 I guess (V4)

[open kestrel]

Is there any good Blueprint that uses Amythist?

[median sentinel]

they all have 3 exits.

[open kestrel]

i have 0 usage for now

[rain schooner]

why my amethyst so low?

[worthy vigil]

Ty so much

[somber briar]

Nope, one of the thermal bank eating all the battery, while the other thermal got an empty lane

[low obsidian]

In valley it's 1080

[scenic comet]

yeah i know, but see how my zipline is right where i spawn? i don't need to move it up

[paper bane]

@median sentinel send the battery back to the aic , and set up something like this

[low obsidian]

Everything sleep?

[paper bane]

extremely space efficent , no more head ace

[median sentinel]

but all batterys are spread over 3 exits per machine. and all banks get 2 of them with the 9th wrapping back to all 4. i feel you guys arent looking closely at the distribution behind

[low obsidian]

Bruh

[paper bane]

cause i havent put the battery in

[low obsidian]

Ouh

[marble yarrow]

your reaching the 80k limit so the mining rigs actually cant stash it up. use them for like buck C capsules, or sell amethyst bottles directly

[paper bane]

i dont have alot of batteries

only like 24k of purple one

[rain schooner]

but the other ones are at max and it shows full yield

just curious

maybe that is the reason

[low obsidian]

[paper bane]

oh yeah quick tip if you trying to send item to wuling go to OMV dijang and just sit there and send item it way quicker

[paper bane]

not enough drugs for the homeless , you must sell more

[nova cradle]

i thought of something else. What about the infinite farm? if we put protocol stashes in between the facilities of them will it make the output faster too?

[marble yarrow]

yeah but dont keep it to the limit. give a space buffer for the mining rigs to actually bring back the ores

[somber briar]

Thats not how they works, we need a new type of control port distribution to do what you want

[rain schooner]

ah ok

[median sentinel]

arent the exits all getting 1 of 3 of themachine?

[shrewd knoll]

no, they all operate at a ratio so none of the items actually stop in the stash

[rain schooner]

thxs

i dont have anything to make with it....was just curious why it was showing full amount

[median sentinel]

i thought when a machine has 3 exits, it devides evenly over the 3 exits

[paper bane]

Shift and ctrl click works amazingly if you trying to put item in or take item out

[shrewd knoll]

all you can do is push the item along the belt faster but once it hits full saturation, its the same result

[paper bane]

dont need to drag with mouse

ctrl click to fill your inventory with that item , shift click to take stack of 50 in your inven or put in the machien

[low obsidian]

Ferrium gone again 😭

[marble yarrow]

true

[median sentinel]

Do machines not divide evenly over their multiple exits?

[runic epoch]

Ctrl click straight from the depot works as well

[nova cradle]

ahh okay ~!

[shrewd knoll]

you can do something like this if you want to split the materials going into your factories evenly, thats about it

[somber briar]

No, the packaging unit will send the battery on the first lane that is empty, if first lane is full then it will go to the next lane

[open kestrel]

Is it common to have tons of HC valley batteries left at end game and having no credits earned by outpost to sell them?

[paper bane]

nice info learn everything new every day

[rain schooner]

Is there a way to check what youre making with a certain item from the menu? Im out of originium ore and I dont even remember what Im making to use so much of it

[median sentinel]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa thank you bro

[jagged swallow]

With 800K can i max out all SUB-PAC valley 4?

[paper bane]

no

[low obsidian]

Splitting materials is way efficient

[jagged swallow]

I wonder what to do with it lol

[paper bane]

the final one cost me more than a 1mil i think

[jagged swallow]

Ah

I saving 3M then XD

[paper bane]

once you max em , buy gifts

[jagged swallow]

will do

[marsh isle]

How to raise region development lvl fast im at 9 to 10 and want to get to 11 asap because i alr maxed all my depot bus and expansion...

[nova cradle]

is there a reason for the stairs layout for the belts?

[paper bane]

upgrade depot node , and stock retribution

[low obsidian]

Upgrade all depot node

[runic epoch]

Max out depot nodes
Max out stock redistribution
Max the owls

[paper bane]

and the recycle station

[hidden temple]

saves space on the corners

[nova cradle]

ohh

yeah i think ive read this before too LOL

[low obsidian]

Fun fact upgrading your AIC space and depot bus doesn't give EXP 💀

[nova cradle]

someone said it here

[marsh isle]

What should i max out first?

[nova cradle]

i think it was you

[shrewd knoll]

it's to divide the 33% into 22%

[paper bane]

stock retribution

We must do stock trade

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[low obsidian]

Another fun fact you can use BOTH side of your Wuling depot bus

[paper bane]

Jeffery ??

[marsh isle]

Kay noted

[paper bane]

ye chief

[paper bane]

my way of making syringe kinda aids tho ngl

[marsh isle]

My depot nodes are currently at lvl 2

[spring vessel]

when you just unlock wuling but have a heart attack thinking this is the valley pac base power supply:

[paper bane]

i make like 6 per minute due to ferrium shortage

[glacial stag]

Does anyone know on how to get to that one ferrium mine where a car had blocked it? I assume the maximum yield of ferrium is 1080

[marsh isle]

And the owls are lvl 3

What's the max lvl of the owl tho?

[runic epoch]

4

[paper bane]

shit bro i almost soft locked myself when i forgot to make extra battery just incase

[glacial stag]

4

[jagged swallow]

No worries i have such heart attack more then once

[marsh isle]

Sweet thanks

[low obsidian]

Travel way up to the broken road and jump down the hill

[marsh isle]

So first stock redistribution-> owl-> depot nodes?

[odd cedar]

there's a back alley

[nova cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/gon-freecss-hunter-x-hunter-mad-frustrated-angry-gif-15047977

[glacial stag]

I tried it once but fall death

[nova cradle]

okay i got it!

[spring vessel]

does anyone know why im getting this when i try entering the tacit?

[trim star]

you're animation locked

[paper bane]

How much more can i optimize?

[low obsidian]

This?

[glacial stag]

Naah

[spring vessel]

That is so fucking stupid-

but ty

[low obsidian]

Which one screenshot to me the map

[glacial stag]

That

[paper bane]

this my syringe farm , any way i can optimize more? or nah

[low obsidian]

Oh yeah that XD

[shrewd knoll]

you can only optimize it once more ferrium is introduced and you make a double factory setup

[low obsidian]

Yeah same

[glacial stag]

I try later

[trim star]

i mean drinks are easy though

[low obsidian]

[kind vessel]

How to mirror a selection or blueprint?

[trim star]

mirroring is impossible

[low obsidian]

Man max depot only half the stuff

[trim star]

this is due to one sided parity machines like planting units

[paper bane]

but so far you can only get 90/min no?

[kind vessel]

Thanks

[spring vessel]

I am not looking forward to the essance grind once i max my lae team

fml

[shrewd knoll]

yea unfortunately

[paper bane]

this is the way

[spring vessel]

fuck im broke on t creds

im gonna crash out

[paper bane]

so far , off-topic is like a more normal version of the general chat , AIC contain people which have above 10 braincell rubbing each other

[glacial stag]

3 batts 35x35

[paper bane]

cant be me ( actually i also ran out )

[low obsidian]

[paper bane]

fkin 9??

[spring vessel]

"What if i, dont bottleneck my entire factory"

https://giphy.com/gifs/thinking-albert-einstein-nikola-tesla-xSANJuoavQqCn3O4xG

[paper bane]

how tf you able to get 9/min?

[low obsidian]

Yeah it's slow

Don't know

[wanton rose]

The factory part is my favorite part

[paper bane]

yeah how tf you get 9/min with only ferrium being 90/min

[halcyon radish]

other half of AIC is people asking for the dumbest blueprints ever

[paper bane]

yes chief factory must grow , story can wait

[halcyon radish]

someone asked for carbon blueprints just yesterday

[shut rover]

I spent 12 hours alone in the past three days doing factory

[paper bane]

bruh arent its legit easy?

[halcyon radish]

exactlty

[shrewd knoll]

maybe he wants a specific carbon from a certain plant

[halcyon radish]

not even the refined carbon

[shut rover]

They probably dont want to bother with doing it on their own

[halcyon radish]

actual carbon cubes

[hardy gulch]

Despite the game having a factory gameplay, Im surprised they didn’t add wind or water turbines as early power generation

[marble yarrow]

the mirrored

[wanton rose]

I spent three hours trying to optimize bottle production....I refuse to use the blueprints or help because thats half the fun

[paper bane]

well i mean Consider that the ppl who ask tend to make factory like this uhhhh , i say we can give them a pass

[spring vessel]

Im gonna have to tear my whole factory down for wuling tech

well

most of it at-least

i dont think i have to care about valley anymore right?

[paper bane]

hm? how so

[spring vessel]

eh

[paper bane]

yes you do blud

[hardy gulch]

What a waste of space lol

[spring vessel]

mostly for endgame consumables, component farm (which ima just leave overnight once then delete)

[paper bane]

make like a HC battery farm then transfer battery from valley 4 to wuling using OMV dijang

[spring vessel]

and couple other stuff

[paper bane]

ikr

[spring vessel]

Ive got two HC battery farms in valley/tech

lol

[wanton rose]

I also been using the PAC things for area specific things, like the bombs you can make

[paper bane]

like the guy who make this have protocol stash but he doenst use it

[paper bane]

you might want 18/min for HC battery

[spring vessel]

prob

but uhhhhhh

thats future endmin's problem

[median sentinel]

fixed

[paper bane]

transfer like 10k hc battery for wuling , last like 2-3 days if you have like 2.4 k battery using

[nova osprey]

symmetry tickles my brain, but the need to optimize kills me

[paper bane]

2.4k power sorry

[spring vessel]

Whats prob gonna happen is ima have to devote 3 outposts purely to HC lmao

[paper bane]

@hardy gulch chief 😭 help bro

[nova osprey]

i mean i already did that, not purely purely HC, since i have space for other stuff if i wanted to

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/glitch-tweak-redhatgifs-KYHr06HhprKsLUQhCd

looking at your factory make me start having seizure

[runic epoch]

HC's can be made in the main AIC

[spring vessel]

I have my main AIC making buck capsules

[median sentinel]

it just works

[paper bane]

https://tenor.com/view/shifu-drawing-shifu-drawing-master-shifu-1000-yard-stare-gif-4555347630673863855

[spring vessel]

once i get wuling story done and everything unlocked il prob retool everything

make main AIC HC farm and the other outposts doing various stuff

[runic epoch]

Oh no wonder
Usually it's the other way around

[spring vessel]

The refugees shall be rewarded with 5 billion power plants

[paper bane]

no no

5 billions capsule A

[vivid flower]

on the power plataeu area how do you get past this fence

[spring vessel]

Mostly to max out the valley pac's

[vivid flower]

ah wrong channel my bad

[spring vessel]

Im not even gonna bother with the incursions until i have wuling towerws

[paper bane]

i forgot but ii dont want to find the way i reach there

its aids

[slender rivet]

should i upgrade depot node to level 3 or upgrade base a bit

[sudden egret]

Fuck me, I'm 10 facility limit to reaching my goal

[shrewd knoll]

you can get past a lot of things you are not suppose to in that area

[steel geyser]

I know this is in chinese but i'm pretty sure the meaning gets across

[high stag]

i see

[spring vessel]

anyways

[trim star]

go to the other side where you teleport to in front of the boss fight

you can just walk all the way over

[spring vessel]

i wont have to bother redoing my factorys anyways until wuling is fully done

[shrewd knoll]

Guys i think this is the xiranite final form modular version

[spring vessel]

and i can actually make wuling components/endgame consumables

[potent mantle]

the meaning of an inefficient factory?

[nova osprey]

yeah, are you asking about the rates?

[nova osprey]

absolute factorio

[high stag]

this image is a day or two out of date, but im pulling 550/min

[spring vessel]

Factorio but your locked to the basic belt

[livid cairn]

I want verticality

[tribal agate]

any good willing blueprints before I get depot buses? I just finished the story and got all the mining spots

[paper bane]

actually not bad , could be smaller

[spring vessel]

i always find it funny that in endfield, Splitters just

[spring vessel]

sabatoge your throughput

lmao

[shrewd knoll]

its 14x31

[paper bane]

valley 4 i asume

[high stag]

correct

[steel geyser]

no, I was posting in #endfield a while ago and I couldn't figure out why my yellow stone ore isn't at full production cap

[vivid flower]

thanks i got it nw

[paper bane]

yyellow stone?

[high stag]

im trying to help him

[shrewd knoll]

14 is as small as it gets, i was stuck on 15 for awhile

[hard panther]

when guides say that all locations must be drilled is it for the resources or is it for the factory xp?

[high stag]

originium

[potent mantle]

if u have these output then u can easily clear the stock to empty everyday

[steel geyser]

i'm being chinese

[paper bane]

ophhhh its regional level

[steel geyser]

reg11

[nova osprey]

you have to be missing some spots

gonna have to go around taking a look at mining spots to see if they're all powered. i recommend using an interactive map so you can scratch items out

[paper bane]

its regional level , max out put is regional level 11

[steel geyser]

blue stone is at full

[paper bane]

560/min is the max

[steel geyser]

i got 11

should be missing spots or something but i can't figure out which one

[paper bane]

yeah you miss some i belvie

[high stag]

@steel geyser theres more yellow ore in the hidden zone at the bottom here

[steel geyser]

alright got it thanks

[paper bane]

you suppose to have 560/min

you missing like 4 '

[nova osprey]

wait you've never been to the mines?

quarry*

[marble yarrow]

You missed the mining locations. also violet stone is 240/m

[high stag]

he hasnt gone to the cliff area south of the hub

its still in fog for him

[steel geyser]

yeah i didn't unlock it

[paper bane]

oh yeah'

[steel geyser]

violet stone is... kinda useless anw

[paper bane]

go to the south there 4 spot

[potent mantle]

just walk there

[nova osprey]

damn

[paper bane]

tf does amethyst use for again i kinda forgot

[potent mantle]

what do u mean useless, u can use it to make stuff to sell

[marble yarrow]

i use this 240/240 usage max

[odd cedar]

Cryston bottles. They look more expensive and I use them for xiranite bottles

[paper bane]

ah yes the supreme brick moment

[nova osprey]

cryston bottles work for xiranite?

[paper bane]

does exactly the same as a normal brick but look difference

[odd cedar]

Yes

[nova osprey]

nice

[trim star]

any bottles work

[odd cedar]

But same volume

[nova osprey]

really? even amethyst?

[livid cairn]

you miss some here, I forgot what it is

[paper bane]

its the gucci bottle bro

[stark chasm]

Hi, can someone help to improve this Valley IV base? I tried to build stuff myself at the beginning then started mixing blueprints together

https://www.twitch.tv/nemruu/v/2686883856

[paper bane]

theres 2 there i belive

[potent mantle]

citrome is better, u can sell it to all 3 outpost

[paper bane]

bet

[paper bane]

what you need to improve tho

[marble yarrow]

i dont like swapping for 3 items on the other 2 outpost

[stark chasm]

Nah, just seeing if anyone has something better

[high stag]

^^^^^^^

[stark chasm]

[paper bane]

you lookin for blueprint i suppose?

[nova osprey]

what are you looking to do

[stark chasm]

A mix of everything

[high stag]

its ferrium

[stark chasm]

Just making sure I got 'everything'

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-face-cats-qZgHBlenHa1zKqy6Zn

[potent mantle]

what r u trying to achieve?

[nova osprey]

most people running triple A and triple HC, so i don't think anyone really has

[livid cairn]

oh yess, I always forgot we have this as well

[paper bane]

so you need like a bunch of batteries?

[dull bone]

👀 damn...

[stark chasm]

Aye this is it

[nova osprey]

inefficient, burn it with fire

[paper bane]

make more

[paper bane]

wait what region are yu again

NA or Asia

[stark chasm]

Asia

[magic falcon]

HC batteries up and running, never have to worry about power again. HA HA HA HA.

[marble yarrow]

18 battery / 18 buck a / 24 buck c / 20 origocrust

[stark chasm]

All my other bases are for buck capsule a

[dull bone]

i wish i can zoom out bit more but i got 8 total... orz

[shrewd knoll]

you can

[stark chasm]

If there's a way to have 1 more battery making spot

[dull bone]

and you are telling me i need to make more? 👀

[paper bane]

#1461542035617091681 you may try your luck for blueprint if you look for it

[dull bone]

teach me master

[shrewd knoll]

make a 1x40+ blueprint with belts

[paper bane]

show me the ferrium

[nova osprey]

not with your current setup, be careful, you might run out of power

[paper bane]

show me the ferrium count rn

[steel geyser]

well this is... better

[paper bane]

its in the negative i just know

[paper bane]

you still missing 1

[steel geyser]

something still missing tho

[nova osprey]

still missing some hmm

[paper bane]

he missing exactly 1 more

[steel geyser]

there's... no place that would have just one right

[nova osprey]

to be specific, you're missing two high purity nodes, so one mining spot

[livid cairn]

it' more likely new ore spot in your patch

try checking them

[trim star]

what the hell.

i thought i didnt need no more zipline pylon

[paper bane]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cat-face-cats-qZgHBlenHa1zKqy6Zn

you need alot of zipline

[trim star]

i have 20k zipline towers

[shrewd knoll]

i think you can use the more advanced one too

[odd cedar]

the purple zipline works too tho i used it

[steel geyser]

is there any yellow stone in the quarry?

no?

[trim star]

thank god i only have that on me rn

[nova osprey]

should just be amethyst

[magic falcon]

I had to stash 2 ziplines because of that mission.

[paper bane]

try this https://game.skport.com/map/endfield?header=0&ctr_orientation=landscape&hg_media=skport&hg_link_campaign=tools

ints the interactive map offical

[trim star]

my hub ziplines are incredibly optimized so i have like 5 left

no worries

[paper bane]

this is the offical interactive map , you can see the mineral bed click it and go to each area to check if you missing any mining rig

[nova osprey]

you got these right? @steel geyser

[paper bane]

i am so broke on credit its actually insane

[nova osprey]

credit shop? how much do you usually get?

[crude nebula]

T-credits is crazy expensive in current late game

[paper bane]

like 600 total

[paper bane]

yeah ikr

[potent mantle]

800+ today

[nova osprey]

i think i get around the same

[vagrant leaf]

are they planning a per-minute display for factory input/outputs?

[paper bane]

i was upgrading till it say im broke , i was like i know i aint broke , reality hit hard

[paper bane]

its in the AIC

[crude nebula]

I remembered so low in cash when trying to lvl 90 my main dps

[nova osprey]

aic report?

[potent mantle]

u mean this shop right?

[steel geyser]

i found it, unlocked area, some kind of factory that requires you to blow up stuff near the entrance

[fringe geode]

is this autistic? a self sustaining HC Maker doesn't need the extra power and also somewhat wastes batteries.
3 Banks is not enough to power another area, and 4 uses too much power. So by using 2 banks to share 1/4th of the output, it keeps 3 banks full and effectively powers 4 while the extra 1/8 battery gets put into a Protocol Stash (Drip catcher)

I feel like i made something decent but also wasted too much time on it lol

[vagrant leaf]

i meant for the assembly units themselves too… like satisfactory

[paper bane]

uh

[stoic hatch]

is this for real ???? how unlucky am i right now whatt the hell

[paper bane]

i dont use it like that i just well , put in in AIC and put a external thermal bank else where

[paper bane]

you havent see the 1077% for me

i once make 3.5 mil

[gleaming lodge]

Ma factor died from less battery production

[potent mantle]

not a luck issue, its like this every monday

[low obsidian]

Same

[marble yarrow]

wait next day (same) 😭

[fringe geode]

that's a waste of an outgoing port, each outgoing port is profit. this maximizes space by using a total of only 10 unloaders

[stoic hatch]

bruh this is price that i want to buy .... theres no single one that are like -40% if sell for +1.3k% i already experienced it

[fringe geode]

10 unloaders to produce 110% batteries

[low obsidian]

Do this

[fringe geode]

120%*

[stoic hatch]

fawkkkk whyy

i need monay

[low obsidian]

I think i will buy the 16M motorcycle

[fringe geode]

you're doing stocks wrong, that's perfectly fine to me

[paper bane]

ohhh yeah im saving for that too

[low obsidian]

I don't know what valley stock means to me already

[nocturne smelt]

HOW CAN I INCREASE THE LIMIT OF FORGE OF THE SKY?

[paper bane]

use depot bus bro

[stoic hatch]

i think i will save for tomorrow

[potent mantle]

is there a way to increase the stock fill up rate? im suffering here as my excess goods are getting stocked up

[nocturne smelt]

i don't have enough of the stuff

[low obsidian]

Only from AIC and that's 2

Maybe next patch

[nocturne smelt]

so only 1 so far?

[low obsidian]

Take all the funny doll

[paper bane]

on god hope next patch they release more factory stuff so we can make so much drugs they die from overdose

[low obsidian]

You can make 2 forge of sky

[runic epoch]

Just wait a day

[low obsidian]

Yeah

[nocturne smelt]

funny doll?

[paper bane]

doll that is funny

[shrewd knoll]

they already overdosing cuz people pumping medical water into their crop fields

[low obsidian]

Yeah the funny AIC index doll

[crude nebula]

I always ran out of items now in valley 4, after selling them all to outpost

[potent mantle]

impossible, u do not seem to understand, the goods can clear in 1 day and have excess

[runic epoch]

Praying for belt speed increase

[vestal moat]

luck issue ig

[low obsidian]

Wiggle guy

[kind vessel]

Is 12/min LC battery and 9/min Syringe in Wuling maximum?

[livid cairn]

AIC Steward

[nocturne smelt]

dammit i don't know what that is

[low obsidian]

Nope

[stoic hatch]

yeah i will save the buy limit for tmorrow wait for stock drop

[nocturne smelt]

oh

[sudden egret]

I FUCKING DID IT!!!!!!!!!
Valley 4, Main PAC, 1 Sub AIC. Full mineral utilization, full self-sustaining farms.
I have made 2 Sub-AIC's 100% obselete

[potent mantle]

im going to pile up to 80k HC purple batteries at this rate, fml

[low obsidian]

That's owl 😭

[runic epoch]

And 2 of em are consumables?
I dunno man like use them or something

[livid cairn]

I know 🤣

[nocturne smelt]

tks

[spring vessel]

Me entering wuling and derailing the entire main story by several hours just cause of collectables

[livid cairn]

oh wait

you mean research

you need to find ballon guy

[potent mantle]

u never use your originium ores in wuling?

[fringe geode]

still a waste of an unloader, maximize profits, THE FACTORY MUST GROW

[livid cairn]

yellow dancing ballon guy

[kind vessel]

Nice

[stoic hatch]

bro build diff

[low obsidian]

Looking for this wulin stone?

[fringe geode]

i'll throw together a cheat sheet real quick, don't spend anything

[spring vessel]

Im busy on my 20th chest

[smoky reef]

are there no ferrium ore node in wuling?

[halcyon radish]

1 (one)

[spring vessel]

and the 9th gear template that i cant even use

[low obsidian]

No because:

[kind vessel]

What is your Ferrium ore usage?

[odd cedar]

what the ores generate vs what i want to use XD

[stoic hatch]

yea i didnt spend since the limit can be 960 so ill wait tomorrow

[low obsidian]

Just do the story they will teach you on how to make xiranite water

[fringe geode]

I once didn't buy for 3 days, it was worth it

[low obsidian]

Xiranite water used to clean slime thing

[buoyant cobalt]

is using a skin mod bannable?

[paper bane]

well idk i only use 2 PAC and make 18 batterys hc /min

[smoky reef]

trying to make a effective yazhen syringe farm for the regional development but i keep running out

[paper bane]

hmm hmm

[low obsidian]

Running out of ferrium?

[stoic hatch]

noisee

[odd cedar]

mine is better than yours XD

[low obsidian]

Do this in dijiang

[smoky reef]

yea all the nodes near the base is originium

[paper bane]

500 thousand batteries

https://giphy.com/gifs/500-cigarettes-firepeg-qOSNC24lvEWTzplsJJ

[livid cairn]

find the ballon guy by looking for these symbol in map and use point for research additional sky forge

[nova osprey]

can you fill cryston bottles with jincao or no

[odd cedar]

yes but you can't use it in the packaging unit

[paper bane]

yes? technically so

[nova osprey]

ah, so can't use it for the medicine

guh

[low obsidian]

[glad totem]

do you think it's a great idea to put the power generator on a Sub-PAC and let the core AIC produce the battery components?

because the t3 battery used up a lot of unloaders for power generation consistency

[runic epoch]

You'd still be able to fit the therms at the main AIC even if you put the whole chain in the main

[glad totem]

Well, I also have the dust and powder farm in the core.

[storm junco]

The tutorial can go to hell

[dull bone]

i am currently having battery are make in core, and power gen are in sub lol

[stoic hatch]

which turret is the best for help me with the TD on sub PAC things :v

[storm junco]

Effing simulatio got me stuck like 3 hours

[runic epoch]

Sentry, beam and stun

Surge towers and Marsh if you have wuling

[fringe geode]

Having friends is OP because you can sell to their daily stocks

[stoic hatch]

thanks alot

[nova osprey]

sorry, i think this needs more circles and arrows

[silent jacinth]

How can I climb up here?

[fringe geode]

700k profit in 2 minutes 😄

[stoic hatch]

oh yeah i understand all this xD, thats the stock is mine where i want to buy not sell

[fringe geode]

the main takeaway is, you don't need to buy any stocks until they're under -70%, until then, you can save up

[paper bane]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[nova osprey]

.pp

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331192247856922696/most_defensible_btw.gif

[fringe geode]

this way you can get x10 profit every time you sell 😄

[silent jacinth]

Anyone?

[nova osprey]

you cant climb there?

[paper bane]

cant babe

pretty sure it inside

[dense blade]

almost at cap

[paper bane]

https://tenor.com/view/dokibird-huh-rejected-live-gif-3859302371757875364

[fringe geode]

never enough >:D

[paper bane]

bro become gus and sell them drugs to the homeless camp

[silent jacinth]

I had a friend who managed to placed a zipline there, the problem is I replaced it with mine and I fell and didn't connect the relay tower so I got screwed

[paper bane]

https://tenor.com/view/gus-gusfring-gif-24463299

[next prairie]

Whats a good ratio of buildings to get high yield of xiranite?

[paper bane]

max xiranite is 60/min

[silent jacinth]

It's up in the roof

[paper bane]

each depot release 30 item/min

[nova osprey]

hmm not sure then

[paper bane]

its somewhere idk i jhavent eat so i couldnt think

[tranquil cove]

why's everything take so many sandleaves

[runic epoch]

Cryston
And steel

[vapid dock]

Originium a fraud, the world revolved around sandleaf

[next prairie]

Yeah, mine is still at 15/ forge

[crude nebula]

Why don't you ask what that purple ore used in lategame

[graceful lark]

Anyone here got Wuling? At what point should I start working on the factory there? I pretty much have all the AIC Plans for Wuling except these two

[tranquil cove]

lol yeah, i'm just complaining is all

[nova osprey]

now's a good time

[runic epoch]

You can honestly start anytime but
getting one size upgrade and the depot bus makes things easier

[crude nebula]

Time to tweak the base since there's still so much plot

[paper bane]

trust the yellow rock

they're not cancer what you hear is propaganda by the landbreakers

[white heath]

How many sprinklers can one water pump feed?

[nova osprey]

for the farm? it can cover the entire farm

[white heath]

one for all 10 sprinklers? I guess since it only needs to spray every few hours... just 10 splitters to split the pipes?

[nova osprey]

smth like that

[tough cypress]

Half 8 brandweer

[storm junco]

Anyone have those hc battery blueprint

[nova osprey]

but yes you should be fine

[storm junco]

The system one is shieet

[nova osprey]

what

oh