aic-factory

[pine rain]

Anyways, not played factorio before or any other automation game. Harvest Moon was as close as it came, so I was a bit disadvantaged going in. Tutorials were hard as well. Not done most of them, but once the system clicks, it click. I feel like I could hop into any automation factory game and play it after going through endfield.

[stoic coyote]

Belt Bridges, Splitters count towards limit

[fringe crag]

I make 12 CapA and 12 HC, I feel like I could improve more

[weary hearth]

ughhhhh

[safe saffron]

once in wuling what should I built to power my stuff? right now im just putting batteries from my valley factories manually into generators lol

[fiery hatch]

i have click every ore node and i didnt leave any

[sour night]

also each conveyor line also counts as one, so if u split using the bridge, 2 becomes 5 including the bridge

[stoic coyote]

Extreme space waste

[static isle]

1 pylon

[brave vapor]

atleast you hid the sandleaf shredder so i cant judge you for doing 1 belt sandleaf shredder

[crude magnet]

bro never came back 😭

[brave vapor]

other than that, it's solid

[safe saffron]

once in wuling what should I built to power my stuff? right now im just putting batteries from my valley factories manually into generators lol

[brave vapor]

xiranite batteries

[static isle]

the sandleaf line is leftover from the xiranite fac

[stoic coyote]

Wuling Battery

[brave vapor]

maybe cut down on the stashes unless its there to look good

[past hatch]

looking good do important

[brave vapor]

truuuuuue

[potent mantle]

any idea when can we transfer from wuling to valley4?

[static isle]

I use a leftover line from my xiranite fac

[static isle]

the second stash is for symmetry yeah

[brave vapor]

then i don't judge, i praise

[brave vapor]

when you unlock wuling's aic

[clear cairn]

Hello, any asia blueprint for endgame wuling?

[fringe geode]

NEED PWR!? TRY MY THERMAL BANK DESIGN, IT IS VERY HUMAN.
DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH ALL THAT PESKY HC VALLEY BATTERY LAYING AROUND!?
TRY MY THERMAL BANK BLUEPRINT!!; it uses 24 thermal banks; THE DESIGN IS VERY HUMAN!!!

STILL NOT ENOUGH POWER YOU SAY!? WELL THAT'S OKAY, YOU CAN JUST PUT DOWN ANOTHER 24 THERMAL BANKS!
WHY STOP AT 48!? IMAGINE WHAT 164 WILL GIVE YOU! CAUSE I WON'T TELL YOU!
THIS IS WHAT A REAL BANK LOOKS LIKE, NEVER NOT NEED POWER EVER AGAIN! NEVER HAVE CAPACITY FOR ANYTHING ELSE! VERY HUMAN!
if you have any questions at all, they will be ignored

[past hatch]

apparently wuling also will have 12 region level

[fiery hatch]

ok i found my last originium ore node

[shrewd knoll]

RAMP UP TOO SLOW, I NEED MORE POWER NOW AND FASTER

[past hatch]

give us nuclear reactor

[brave vapor]

there's an air of sarcasm with all the generic clickbait youtube trope, but it was done earnestly enough that i cant tell if it is sarcasm, i kneel

[exotic void]

"Endmin, we really need more xirenite. This is really important, everything is going to go to shit if we don't get more xirenite"
Endmin: "ok" turns all the xirenite into batteries to sell

[graceful tide]

is there a thermal blueprint for Wuling?

[shrewd knoll]

pretty sure endmin is selling to their ENEMIES and not wuling

[fiery hatch]

oh no reactor is melting. anyway i now hv enough originium.

[brave vapor]

the aic is very important! theres even a mission for it * people just ignore it and run to wuling *

[dull bone]

It aint much but honest work
I assume there is even better way to optimize it? If so what it is? Currently i only have one belt feeting to forge of the sky 👀

[shut silo]

use mine, very simple

[exotic void]

If the story doesn't actually require us to mass produce xirenite, the devs are cowards

[graceful tide]

you got blueprint for it in EU?

[shut silo]

ofc not

[graceful tide]

alright ill do what I can from the screenshot

[dull bone]

i been wondering, why do people have code for NA and then Asia? are building different in both?

[brave vapor]

it's mutually exclusive, you cant use an na blueprint in asia

[exotic void]

Codes don't work cross-region

[graceful tide]

different servers so the code from one wont work on the other

[fringe geode]

STAY TUNED FOR VERY HUMAN THERMAL BANK WULING DESIGN COMING TO STORES NEAR NEVER

[shut silo]

as you can see, 1 sandleaf gives 3 powder, so add an extra carbon and grinder and you have a more effective one

[stoic coyote]

I love maximized stuff but limited space

[graceful tide]

totally very human

[dull bone]

they dont decode the code it self? just pull in from DB i am guessing... that kinda ineffienctly but then again string would be to long if it decode method i guess...

[shut silo]

the 2 grinder on the left and anything connected to it is completely pointless

[dull bone]

oh yeah that valid 🤔

[shut silo]

oh wait

lemme try smth

[brave vapor]

theres honestly so much space that you can spagetti your way out of alot of situation, but it does feel different compare to other factory sim cause theres a square that limits where you build

[shut silo]

aww

[graceful tide]

hmm?

[shut silo]

the limit is 2 max

the skyforge

[graceful tide]

oh the forge of sky?

yeah it is

for now probably

[shut silo]

so still you only need 4 grinder

[stoic coyote]

It's 3 max

[sour night]

U should check leander's builds, its crazy

[graceful tide]

gotcha ill sort making it

[shut silo]

nah liiier

[graceful tide]

nahh it is 2

[dull bone]

saddness i wish default relay SHOULD HAVE A-B direct

[stoic coyote]

Quest locked the 3rd one

Heh

[shut silo]

which oooneee!!!!

[shrewd knoll]

obviously the main quest

[surreal ridge]

How do u get power in wuling

[brave vapor]

the one where yvonne sucks you dry

[shut silo]

I already completed that

[dull bone]

make battery like you did with valley xD

[brave vapor]

you make xiranite battery, until then get some batteries from valley

[surreal ridge]

Man

[dull bone]

I actually make SC battery in Wuling

[surreal ridge]

Ts some bs ong

[shut silo]

ah right, I will "feel free to explore talos-II"

[dull bone]

cuz all raw mat is from there as well

[sour night]

I just directly started making Wuling batteries

[thorn flicker]

Use SC valley to power and wuling to make racks

when do we get some ferrium mines in ts wuling

[shut silo]

what kind of stuff need battery to craft?

[novel herald]

https://youtu.be/ybvsfaloIfg?si=U_ZNl3QaTLHcxvVh

[brave vapor]

i personally just make syringes instead and use the xiranite batter on 1 line and xir comp on the other, as long as you suck the outpost dry(of money) your fine

fucking ai voice, this is some real slop

[novel herald]

Don't forget u can just put valley batteries to backpack, then bring to wuling

[thorn flicker]

For SC battery 3 originium and 2 ferrium, wuling needs a xiranite circuit (just search how to make xiranite) And 2 originium and sandleaf

[surreal ridge]

I really have to do all that bs again after Maxing valley

[vocal iris]

anyone has max expansion wuling blueprint?

[past hatch]

you overthrown fangyi and her government

[brave vapor]

yes, its a completely new region, so they balanced it around as such essentially

[thorn flicker]

Yazheen isn't worth it rn because it cuts down ferrium production and sometimes if you have just another refining/shred on ferrium it'll stop

[brave vapor]

if you use batteries that needs ferrium, sure, but most people just use the xiranite battery instead, which just makes the ferrium nearly useless unless you make the syringes

[stoic coyote]

Ye

0 ferrium

5k power

[upper shell]

wuling Ferrium slowly dropping even with 1.5k import/hour from V4. producing 2 forge of the sky. is this normal?

[surreal ridge]

Thanks

[halcyon radish]

wuling doesn't have enough resources for max expansion blueprints

[novel herald]

Yes

[shut silo]

if you use ferrium powered batteries in wuling, you need a doctor

[brave vapor]

at most at region lv 12, you get 25/min transfer, not enough for a full belt, this is normal

[fringe geode]

you don't even need to use them at all

[thorn flicker]

Ferrium still stops production after I stop my SC battery there while producing the syringes

[upper shell]

so i have to pause the production once awhile for the ferrium to refill back right?

[thorn flicker]

yes

For me typically I had to restart around 1hr

[brave vapor]

some people really want to maximize their profit via trading, not realizing it's borderline useless if your making more than what the outpost can trade

[past hatch]

yes

[fringe geode]

once you do that, if you have space left over, next thing on the list is getting max inventory of every single item

[shut silo]

I already spent so much ferrium on batteries at valley

[fringe geode]

VERY HUMAN

[past hatch]

i make 6 batts, 12 syringe and still not enough stockbills

[brave vapor]

unless you macro it to some kind of degree, i'm p sure your not gonna be able to do that when gear rerolling eating the xiranite and the profit

[thorn flicker]

Wuling has only 1 stock redist afaik so pumping and dumping doesn't give e atone of racks

[upper shell]

making this only already sufficient for stockbills. just upgraded to lv2 outpost so will see

[novel herald]

That or you go transfer ferrium ore manually using ur backpack

[stoic coyote]

People all about 18/min
Mine 3/min(12-9used) and still out trade the trading post

[upper shell]

haha thanks, dont think will do tat

[stoic coyote]

[obsidian hornet]

Could someone tell me why this only produces half of the Xiranite? i don't see my bottleneck

[past hatch]

i just downsizing my factory. laying off some employees

[brave vapor]

that means you ate into the ferrium that valley makes, directly eating into the 18 buck/ hc battery

[surreal ridge]

Can i continue capturing mines in wuling with 0 battery or will it stop me from placing more

[brave vapor]

which, takes exactly 1080 ferrium

[shut silo]

I wanted to make another wuling battery factory, but I'm afraid my originite isnt enough

[stoic coyote]

2 carbon dust 1 sandleaf powder for grinder

[brave vapor]

if you have the power to keep them running, sure

[exotic void]

Forget originium, there isn't enough xirenite if you're making anything else with it

[stoic coyote]

You lack 1 carbon powder input

[novel herald]

Yea, well no need 18 buck/battery tho

[obsidian hornet]

Oh yeah i thought it was 1 for 1 ty

[novel herald]

Shredder only has 1 output, should be 2

[steep wadi]

1 conveyor belt only outputs 0.5/s
your sandleaf is being split into 0.25/s for each machine

[surreal ridge]

Yeah later when i use batteries theyre gonna run

[stoic coyote]

Oh, use 2 outputs on the sandleaf shredder outputs

The splitter not very efficient

[obsidian hornet]

Okay problem is fixed, without the splitter and 2 belts/shredder ty guys

[stoic coyote]

Lit

[ancient spear]

Almost perfect

[gloomy geyser]

whats the max production of cap a and battery in valley 4?

[open wind]

put down a tower and a protocol depot

[brave vapor]

18/18

[gloomy geyser]

is there a post out there for this?

[ancient spear]

18/18

[brave vapor]

post as in why its the best or why its 18/18?

[gloomy geyser]

no like for the bps

[brave vapor]

cause honestly i just saw 18/18 being the best and i built my factory accordingly

[keen prairie]

well that sucks

[open wind]

always have backup batteries in depot in case stuff like this happens

[keen prairie]

thats a whole days of production lost

[ancient spear]

Thats why im always saving at least 100 battery in my inventroy

[dull bone]

just toss down 5 easy Stash somewhere, that use 5 each

[novel herald]

U just logged in?

[brave vapor]

even better, just dont let this happen in the first place

[keen prairie]

no i did, i turned off my battery production to only produce comps for a night, i have over 30k bats in my storage

[brave vapor]

it's really not that difficult tbh

[dull bone]

oh wrong guy sorry, i meant that to Maple lol

[keen prairie]

its just i forgot that the battery production goes straight to the bank

so there was just no running thermal bank

[open kestrel]

folks, where's the option that allows you to transfer thingsw from Valley to Wuling? I can't find it Q-Q

[olive epoch]

Possibly the Highest amount of Credits u can Generate per/min

[surreal ridge]

How to unlock the stash thing

[olive epoch]

Everysingle Ore is maximum exhausted

[brave vapor]

have you unlocked the wuling aic yet

[open kestrel]

yeah

I already did it once, but i forgot the place now

transferred items i mean

[novel herald]

That was a joke, just open ur backpack, no need to go to receptionist

[brave vapor]

go to your aic and click on it, should have a button bottom right

[open kestrel]

thanks

[surreal ridge]

Aight bro

[novel herald]

Just open the backpack while u're in dijiang

[surreal ridge]

Only xyranite electric towers work in wuling right

[open kestrel]

see, i did it once xD

[brave vapor]

yes, the wifi pylon is only for china

[keen prairie]

normal towers work too

[fringe geode]

Not to some degree, to EVERY degree.
I'm going to see what i can and can't do and properly catalogue it the entire way
THE FACTORY MUST GROW (this is an early template design)

[keen prairie]

but xiranite doesnt work on valley

[surreal ridge]

Aight

Piss tower

[dull bone]

this upset me the most, why!?

[river edge]

Is wuling's ferrium only to produce syringe C ? I don't see it use in xiranite battery or component

[keen prairie]

the internet provider in valley doesnt support wifi

bum ass router

[dull bone]

then we should at least set one up xD

[novel herald]

Is dis excel?

[keen prairie]

yes

[fringe geode]

nah, word.

[brave vapor]

i applaud people for using the normal pylon in wuling, not because they didnt know better, but because someone out there might actually like doing the wires, or atleast dont mind it enough

[novel herald]

Bru

[fringe geode]

jk, it's just Notepad

[tawny oar]

how to fix energy?

[brave vapor]

you either dont let it happen in the first place, or put down thermal banks that are using some leftover battery/ originum

[tacit goblet]

how do yall like get more ores when theres no more mineral beds to get

[lavish raft]

you dont

[brave vapor]

level up region

[wet sable]

go to the next area or dont

[novel herald]

Setup a thermal bank, feed originium into it

[dull bone]

reduce stuff that you are crafting
also level up region increase yield

[brave vapor]

you could do manual labor and mine them yourself

[quartz pecan]

going for two sides is pretty cool, excited for next patch to expand this

[fringe geode]

@tawny oar HERE IS A VERY HUMAN BATTERY DESIGN FOR ALL YOUR POWER NEEDS

[tacit goblet]

i mean im not ready for the next area

[past hatch]

isn't it the other way around? wuling have wifi so you don't need to connect lines manually

[lavish raft]

id rather be unemployed

[tacit goblet]

any way how to level up it fast? or just level up nomrally

[wet sable]

wait u can move those?

[lavish raft]

level up outposts

[dull bone]

wuling only, instead of static deport bus, you can place one instead

[novel herald]

In wuling only

[past hatch]

you place depot yourself in wuling

[wet sable]

not there yet ):

[brave vapor]

no, unless you pulled out like a limbillion valley money out of thin air and start upgrading the owl station/stock redistribution etc

[quartz pecan]

only in the Wuling region, the Depot Bus is moveable

[keen prairie]

if only the PAC was an even size

who decided that everything should be even sized except the pac

[quartz aspen]

anyone have an idea for what i should put in my empty infra-station sub pac?

[surreal ridge]

@novel herald what tech do i need for the entire thing

[feral dock]

hi lil bro i got my tooo

[brave vapor]

you need everything.

[quartz pecan]

LEGIT LMAO some things being even sized and others odd sized is DRIVING ME CRAZY but it's okay i guess, it encourages smart placements for it to look good and still work well

[surreal ridge]

Dang bro

[brave vapor]

getting them all isn't that hard

[keen prairie]

nice colors

[surreal ridge]

Im lazy

[feral dock]

u rrly need all this xd

remember factory must grow

[brave vapor]

the factory cant grow itself from thin air

[jolly atlas]

is this e2 (i came from og arknights)

[brave vapor]

idk, maybe?

[jolly atlas]

w answer

oh wait wrong channel

[brave vapor]

i mean, some operators can help with the factory, but thats a stretch

[zenith seal]

I am mid game (AL 50) and haven't unlocked Wuling yet. Want to complete finishing factory in Valley IV first. Can u all please say which ones I need to build in all the hubs and pac?
I am currently only producing, purple gear, Buck Capsule A, Purple Battery and explosives. They are all full efficient so that's not an issue. But I still have tons of free space left

[crystal tulip]

is Wuling's max Originium yield 310?

[dull bone]

you dont need much of purple gear, less than 500 is good enough

[brave vapor]

they are just areas to build on, as long as you fit in the 18/18 output, your fine

[surreal ridge]

If i replays my relays later on with xyranite relays, will they auto reconnect with each other

Replace

[dusk vine]

is there a way to see how much of a reesource im using vs how much im getting?

[surreal ridge]

Ye

Click the main tower

[novel herald]

Forge of the sky number upgrade, pipe splitter

[brave vapor]

you click on your aic

[crystal tulip]

AIC report

[keen prairie]

i didnt know there was filters

[dull bone]

Wuling only remember... Xyranite only work in wuling

[dusk vine]

that oinly tells me how much im getting, doesn't tell me how much im using in my facilities

[feral dock]

in wuling orage is so satyf.

[surreal ridge]

It looks like its working

Is it not

[dull bone]

click 3 dot on top right

[halcyon radish]

wrong

[brave vapor]

so, the output doesnt say that?

[keen prairie]

yeah they should let us do this while playing

[brave vapor]

doing coloring is alot harder than putting on a filter

[dusk vine]

OH THANKS

[keen prairie]

lowkey didnt ask

[zenith seal]

Yes but is the most efficient thing to produce? Should I just make more buck capsule or purple battery farms?

[brave vapor]

though, coloring my factory would help some customizability

[keen prairie]

just click esc and in the bottom middle of your screen. aic report

[north urchin]

Can someone please share an EU efficient xiranite component blueprint? (1 forge of the sky, not 2)

[keen prairie]

no need to go to the pac

[brave vapor]

both, 18 buck a, and 18 hc battery

[surreal ridge]

It looks like its running

[olive epoch]

Maxed out stock bills

[dull bone]

i thought you were planning to use xyranite in valley so i just want to give head up lol

[glossy nymph]

Not really

Max Hc is 18

[zenith seal]

Okk thanks!

[dull bone]

why it is 18 max?

[olive epoch]

those 40 credits can be layed to rest

[dusk vine]

is ferrium ore just always in a deficit? im only makeing like 2 sc batteries and 1 buck capsule B and im still in deficit 😭

[keen prairie]

not enough mats

[brave vapor]

it's the "optimal" amount of ferrium used

[past hatch]

i just realize i was miscalculating syringe produce rate and placing production line for 24 syringes instead of 6 that i intended to lol

brainfart moment

[olive epoch]

either i make 280 credits with 4 more batteries or 240 with citromen

[olive epoch]

and brother, u are losing Ferrium Ore

i dont think thats optimal

[dull bone]

i see

[olive epoch]

[glossy nymph]

I am not?

[brave vapor]

~~ i can smell the salt thorugh the screen~~

[past hatch]

my brain just skip the red ferrium usage

[olive epoch]

wdym u are not

[glossy nymph]

That factory i build 19 hours ago and still is runing

[olive epoch]

U have the proof on paper brother, i cant help u with that

[open kestrel]

This quest isn't completing even though i placed the pipe and producing Xainite

[brave vapor]

he's techically right, esp if your ferrium is slowly but surely going down

[olive epoch]

connect the forge directly to the pump

[open kestrel]

aight

[obsidian hornet]

we can't produce more than 60 xiranite/min for now right?

[past hatch]

can't really see what you did

[feral dock]

stasch pipe line control pot

[olive epoch]

no tank or whatever in between

[feral dock]

and connect

[brave vapor]

yes

[glossy nymph]

But that was before I fixed it though

[obsidian hornet]

which means either my batteries or gear has to produce only 3/min instead of 6 that's rather unpleasant

[glossy nymph]

I forgot to take new screenshots

[open kestrel]

Done. Quest completed lol. pretty stupid tho. Game usually completes quest like that but they missed a code for this xD

[olive epoch]

show me

[olive epoch]

did it fix the issue? After u connected it directly to the pump?

[open kestrel]

yep

[olive epoch]

nice

had same problem

om

[open kestrel]

xD

[brave vapor]

you don't need more than that, most likely cause the outpost cant trade fast enough, meaning you either run out of money or xiranite component if you got a lucky stock exchange

[brave vapor]

the xiranite battery is useles if all it does is power your factory, and the xiranite component is useless if you run out of money

[glossy nymph]

I had some space left so I made a citrome C farm

[olive epoch]

U are still making less tho

[grand vault]

HG I need more mines

[fiery hatch]

true XD

[grand vault]

Especially Ferrium ones

[olive epoch]

Try to fix the red numbers

[grand vault]

that's valley not wuling

[olive epoch]

or ur storage is empty in a couple days

should look like this

[glossy nymph]

Ik? We are talking about Valley 4 😅

[olive epoch]

yea

[lavish raft]

should i even look at theoretical or like whats causing this

[fringe geode]

Is there a specific hotkey for AIC Report?

[brave vapor]

the theoretical calculates how fast it would actually be if the machine is running as fast as possible

[glossy nymph]

Current

[lavish raft]

oh ok so in this case its bollocks

ty

[brave vapor]

it's not actually, it means your machine isnt running fast enough, aka its wasting energy idling essentially

[fringe geode]

you've got an inefficient factory

[olive epoch]

Not exacly but yeah basicly, for the example the (Theoretical Data) Shows what would BE if your storage is empty

and all machines are running

[open kestrel]

Wifi relays are so nice Q-Q

[brave vapor]

yeah, meanig its running as fast as possible, given enough stuff to work on and that it can store it

[cedar bay]

For Wulling is is better to make batteries at full efficiency or batteries & Syringe together?

[olive epoch]

correct

[silent canyon]

I got one battery line one gear component line

The gear component at half efficiency, battery at full

[brave vapor]

if theres no more room, the actual data is lower, or if in this case, you fail to supply enough for said recipe, resulting in the projected amount being lower than it should

some recipes are fine if it is higher than estimated, but for steel i say you might need to check your factory

[spice pier]

finally everything is under control and hopefully my factory wont explode while i sleep.. also chat i can safely ignore things like originium being red right? like aint no way i will ever run out of originium if my originium supply is stable

[river flicker]

how can i get full view on my build

[cedar bay]

I just made a full gear component lline an left it overnight I can't see myself needing to retool to make more for a while. After you have Components covered can you make Batteries & Syringe or is there not enough production?

[lavish raft]

uhh lemme check i might be brainfarting

[brave vapor]

you cant, at best you make a really long belt, copy it and the game will zoom out more

[silent canyon]

Gear artificing needs a lot of components

I just ran through all I had

[brave vapor]

and money.

[silent jacinth]

What gear should wulfgard wear in a laevatain team

[silent canyon]

You gotta find a balance between gear components and still buying out the stockade

[river flicker]

is this build good for 6/min hc battery what can i improve

[brave vapor]

if you got lucky with stock exchange, you can temporarily swith over to gear instead of battery to use up your new found wealth

[lavish raft]

so say my theoretical steel usage is so higher where should i look for the problem?

[chrome oracle]

fuc yea

[brave vapor]

i'm guessing ferrium powder

[fiery hatch]

wrong chat XD this is factory so the question should be where can i make wulfgard work in laevation factory XD

[brave vapor]

that needs 2 line in to fully saturate the grinder

[silent jacinth]

Oh sorry didn't realize

[fiery hatch]

npnp

[lavish raft]

oh, think im using too much steel bottles

lol

[brave vapor]

i usually just hints at people that they are posting offtopic shit, cause aparently this is unmoderated outside of automated slurs

[silent canyon]

You can make a sandleaf factory fit inline with the depot bus without taking up a depot slot

[lavish raft]

which means my filling thing isnt going fast enough im guessing

[brave vapor]

i cant tell you for sure if i dont see your steel line

[river flicker]

what can i improve here its currently making 6/min hc battery

[brave vapor]

right amount of input, sandleaf dust gets 3 belts, your good

[novel herald]

6/min is already 100% efficient

[potent mantle]

go for canned citrome A so u do not need to produce the buck and focused more space on citrome

[gentle sun]

people here are too busy optimizing shit. no time for anything else

[brave vapor]

well, theres time to talk about their rolls, or a filter

[drifting sparrow]

how can hc batter be 18 yield 8 usage and still go 0 depot? is there some way to prevent this?

[halcyon radish]

sounds impossible

[silent canyon]

I like my tileable steel production

With inline sandleaf

[gentle sun]

try moving everything to depot and have thermal banks pull from depot. better setup imo

[drifting sparrow]

yeah I'm going crazy my 5.7k power base drops to 200 whenever I leave the game for sleep and come back to no factories working

[halcyon radish]

show the factory

[potent mantle]

your battery supply dropped?

SS your ore yield

[novel herald]

Can u screenshot?

[drifting sparrow]

can't screenshot for some reason but basically copied this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uWPBIzjaFAM, do you mean sandleaf seed? 720 yield 720 usage

[silent canyon]

Oh man I found a clog in my system. Don't have multiple different products going to one protocol stash. If one of them fills up, it will clog up the protocol stash and stop your other products

[brave vapor]

if you just copied someone else's homework, your likely using more ores than the setup asks

[novel herald]

But we need to see your yield/usage report 🥲

[silent canyon]

I made 80k cryston bottles, and I had steel going into the same protocol stash 😭

So no steel was going through because it was filled with Cryston bottles

[drifting sparrow]

ore yield and usage is 560/540, 240/240, 1080/840

[silent canyon]

As for why I have 80k Cryston bottles despite there being no current use for them.... don't worry about it

[novel herald]

Theoritical or current?

[drifting sparrow]

current

[novel herald]

And ur battery?

[potent mantle]

if battery is healthy then its the belt issue

might be a wrong splitter belt

[novel herald]

It will be much less in the "current" one if there's belt issue, since they're not going into depot

[glossy nymph]

Thanks I'll think about it.

[brave vapor]

a screenshot would help by not letting us ask alot of question, but if that yield usage is correct, either your using too much ferrium, or your using too much originum

[drifting sparrow]

HC battery yield right now is 18, and usage is 4, I had to cut some thermal banks and make the power as tight as possible and foregoing the power plateau buck capsule a farm,

[potent mantle]

impossible he said his ferrium is 1080/840

[novel herald]

Hmmmmmmmmm

[brave vapor]

if its left input right usage, then his originum is in the red.

[potent mantle]

but his originum is 560/540

[novel herald]

Yea it's weird

[drifting sparrow]

at first I thought it was that the mining rigs aren't set up properly, so fixed that, but every now and then hc battery just goes 0 depot

[cedar bay]

Quick question is using mining rig 2 on originium a waste of power or does it increase yield?

[drifting sparrow]

how is 1080 yield 840 usage red? should i have lower usage?

[brave vapor]

if it's the oposite, then i'm wrong

[split chasm]

Do we have any self-sustaining, no-maintenance Wuling builds? Basically not having to transfer power or materials via Valley IV

[brave vapor]

either way, a screen shot helps cut down the questions and assumptions, along with the factory line.

[novel herald]

Oh how did u feed ur thermal banks?

[potent mantle]

just to check your battery goes straight to the power right?

[silent canyon]

Yes, but it won't be max output

[static isle]

how much simpler would the world be if sandleafs behave like normal plants
as in shredding them creates 2, not 3

[novel herald]

Was thinkin of the same thing

[obsidian elm]

why my depot bus section didnt appear
i dont have any problem with valley IV

[static isle]

wuling depot is constructed
they're the same as any facility
in exchange you can place them anywhere

[brave vapor]

it wouldnt, it just makes certain setups use up more space cause now we need 2

[obsidian elm]

i have it in my bag
cant place anywhere on the AIC area

[silent canyon]

Either accept you'll overproduce sandleaf, or make every grinder in sets of 3

[static isle]

you need to place the depot node first
and then the banks
then the unloaders

[marble yarrow]

damn these mirrored duo almost met from end to end of my main PC lmaoo mirrored perfection

[silent canyon]

The numbers work out though, a perfect factory will not overproduce sandleaf

[mortal plinth]

welp....gonna go broke ig

[toxic mural]

Put the square down first so it power the depot

[brave vapor]

well, the theoretical will be fucked

[mortal plinth]

[static isle]

you mean 18/18 right?

[brave vapor]

if you overproduce, but thats really it

[silent canyon]

Yep

[empty pulsar]

finally minmaxxed the entirety of Valley IV ores yield and usage drugs for days

[static isle]

I'm not running 18/18 because I'm transfering ferrite over to Wuling

[drifting sparrow]

so you need to go window mode to screenshot in this game, so far it looks right to me, but when i come back to it after sleep i'm afraid it will all go back to 0

[silent canyon]

I have my factory at perfect ratio using all ore and no sandleaf overproduction

[cedar bay]

Can anyone answer this?

[static isle]

I'm only at 12/18

[empty pulsar]

it doesnt increase yield

[cedar bay]

Thank you.

[mortal plinth]

interesting setup

[glossy nymph]

Waste of power.

[novel herald]

Just check that ur battery stock is increasing right?

[mortal plinth]

mine looks like a microchip

[brave vapor]

then my assumptions are all wrong now cause this 1 screenshot says otherwise, now if we can see your factory line we can truly pinpoint where it goes wrong

[empty pulsar]

oo that sounds so cool, any pics?

[obsidian elm]

finaly its work
many thanks bro

[drifting sparrow]

basically 3 of these setups for hc battery

[mortal plinth]

i dont have the cliff unlocked yet so this is best i can do lol

[drifting sparrow]

it is right now but that's because I am not making use of power plateau, so basically less buck capsule a yield

[reef crescent]

oh damn, I gotta downgrade all my MK2 that would use Mk1 instead holy

[mortal plinth]

im new to the game didnt even unlock 3rd AIC level

[brave vapor]

looks fine, screenshot of your thermal bank setup

[novel herald]

Ok all is good then if u leave it like this

[mortal plinth]

i wish i could show the entire thing smh, zoom isnt enough

[river flicker]

is cryston component only making gears?

[brave vapor]

the cliff in general doesnt help either tbh

[brave vapor]

basically yes

[potent mantle]

nope

[novel herald]

Yes

[drifting sparrow]

I had to reduce to 4 instead of 6 or more, so I am not making as much as buck capsule a as I should

[river flicker]

what else

[potent mantle]

the purple one, i forgot the name

[mortal plinth]

there

it worked

[brave vapor]

clean screenies

[mortal plinth]

thx lol

[drifting sparrow]

it's not unfortunately, when buck capsule a yield could be 18 instead of 12

[potent mantle]

xiranite component

[mortal plinth]

i can improve the farm design for sure tbh... i didnt know i can just make a closed loop. but other than that, i think its pretty good

[drifting sparrow]

does unlocking wuling give any power bonuses? I'm really getting frustrated because of valley iv power restrictions

[brave vapor]

i don't see whats wrong here either, so since we made sure your not using all of the ores, the setups are basically solid and reliable along with the thermal bank setups

[potent mantle]

gives u materials

[mortal plinth]

just use batteries, a single battery production like makes enough to power two generators

[brave vapor]

so unless its something niche like that extra useless belt lines on the thermal banks are causing something, either the game is bugged or your doing something wrong

i'm more leaning on user error ngl

[mortal plinth]

440 power from a single line is a lot imo xD

[novel herald]

Try adding another buck cap line, see if u have enough power

[novel herald]

440? Purple batt will give 1100

[mortal plinth]

Im not that far x.x

[drifting sparrow]

i don't know at this point, I'm just going to report to customer service to see if there's an actual issue like a bug, if not then the folks on power plateau should get used to not having medicine lol

[brave vapor]

i don't think i've ever bricked my factory other than wuling cause i didnt make the xiranite battery line at the time

[novel herald]

Go try put a buck cap at power plateau now

[drifting sparrow]

id rather not risk it, I would need to increase at least 1 thermal bank then it will break it again

[mortal plinth]

i tried to split the products going into the battery production building and got to 1% battery charge before i fixed it x'D

That was way too fast

[novel herald]

Awh okay"

[brave vapor]

yeah, the factory sim is really simple, so it's kinda hard to screw it up, assuming you had experience playing stuff like this(or be a programmer)

[jolly lantern]

how many pulls does this patch have left ???!

[silent canyon]

If you fuck up power and run out of batteries I feel like it might be annoying to recover from

Especially if your factory is at HC battery level

[brave vapor]

too bad the tutorial in endfield is more garbo than factorio, so it leads to this wack niche where its people that knows how a factory sim works and also loves to goon to yvonne

[lavish raft]

is there a list of max valley iv output of the purp mats based on current minerals?

[silent canyon]

I feel like the game should display items per minute in machines like they do in Satisfactory

[lavish raft]

24 buck?

[silent canyon]

Especially since the Aic report uses items per minute

It would probably help people who are fucking up their ratios

Especially with those planters. The amount of people I see running planters at 50%....

[unreal gyro]

Best Farm for Amethyst Part?

[lavish raft]

i would never play half of the game with my planters at 50%

[silent canyon]

Also bottling plant messes people up cause they aren't feeding enough into it

[mortal plinth]

well im glad the automation is not gatekept, like giving us a ridiculous task to unlock the technology....like...collecting 1000 originium to study it x'D

[brave vapor]

people just dont know how to ratio their belts in general because they just see 1 input 1 output

[rough oxide]

my current yield is 10/min and theoritical yield is 30/min....what does theoritical yield mean? i couldn't understand from the definition

[mortal plinth]

i dont think you can ever have too many belts ngl

[jolly lantern]

guys how many Chartered pulls are there in the patch ??

[proud flax]

replacing mining I device with mining ii increase the production?

[silent canyon]

No

[rough oxide]

around 240 from 49 days

[olive quiver]

How much you can get

[shut rune]

how do i enable metastorage transfer?

[mortal plinth]

this is AIC-factory channel btw

[brave vapor]

the "gate" here is just the natrual roadblock of playing a factory sim, if anything the point system does more harm than good cause people spent their points onto something they cant use because it's lock behind a region

[rough oxide]

is it from both wuling and hub? coz i hv that being produced in both regions

[silent canyon]

It's really confusing wording.
It just means it creates items out of thin air and doesn't deplete your items. It's always on

[olive quiver]

It's in all region, theoretical data is just there to give you an idea on how much your factory can produce and take

[shut rune]

but how do i access it? have valley regional dev maxed out

[mortal plinth]

speaking of which....does wuling unlock a lot more materials and products you can make?...like...as many as there already are in valley 4 or more?

[silent canyon]

The pac

[mortal plinth]

im just curious how long the list gets, that kinda concerns me lmao

[brave vapor]

only xyranite, and a different way to look the planter

it's not oil cracking, personally i hope its a yet, but thats daydreaming

[silent canyon]

Btw the Wuling farm plot limit is separate from the Valley IV one

[olive quiver]

There is a limit? Wow

[silent canyon]

20

[rough oxide]

so if theoritical usage is high but current usage/min is below current yield/min, what does that mean?

[silent canyon]

I tried to fill the field and got maybe 30% through before game told me there was a limit

So much empty space...

[calm crow]

The main AIC?

[brave vapor]

it either means your ore is being used more than it can make, or your factories are not running fast enough

[olive quiver]

If it's red, get ready to lose some material, if it's grey, then it's okay

[silent canyon]

I redid it to look prettier

No the actual FARM plot

[jolly lantern]

thank you. @mortal plinth its shushy shushy

[mortal plinth]

well....the game just came out so....definitely not the end of it xD...but i feel like too many materials will become a bit hard to manage eventually.

[olive quiver]

Where is that btw?

[silent canyon]

Next to the main AIC

[calm crow]

I have a grudge against straight 90° water pipes

[silent canyon]

North east

[brave vapor]

your gonna have to cope until they introduce diagonal pipes

[jolly lantern]

WHY IS IT SO EMPTY WTF

[silent canyon]

I use exclusively straight pipes in Satisfactory

I am not a curved pipe believer

Ikr

[mortal plinth]

speaking of 90 degree's it would be kinda funny to make an entire production line with diagonal conveyor belts

[frail island]

does the mk2 drill speed up the mining or its just a lvl up to mine the blue ores?

[calm crow]

Aaaaaaaaaaaa

[cedar bay]

If only creating batteries in Wulling was this easy.

[calm crow]

I want a landmine in this chat so bad for how much those 90° bends hurt my soul

[cloud wyvern]

Is this good?

[brave vapor]

.pp

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331192247856922696/most_defensible_btw.gif

[cloud wyvern]

Am i missing any mining nodes i feel this kinda wierd

[calm crow]

Tysm

[silent canyon]

I wonder how hard oil refining is going to filter people....

[calm crow]

On which resource?

[cloud wyvern]

Idk

[brave vapor]

assuming it even gets introduce

and assuming they dont eliminate like 80% of the irl output

[calm crow]

Big time, take me back to Factorio

Anyways, what's the highest yield to break even for Wuling batteries?

[silent canyon]

I know gas and corrosive liquids are definitely already hinted at

[brave vapor]

though the wuling mixer does have 2 fluid out, so we can atleast hope for 2 output per oil refining/cracking

[silent canyon]

Cryston bottles hold corrosive liquid

[cloud wyvern]

Can anyone screensoht me their mineral yields?

[calm crow]

Region?

[cloud wyvern]

valley 4

[fringe geode]

your map tells you if you are missing any mining nodes
but you have to check each area individually.

[mortal plinth]

i got 170 originium and 80 amethyst so far

my ore aint maxed out tho

[worthy apex]

560 Orig. 240 Ame. 1080 Fer.

[cloud wyvern]

i'm missing 20 orig HOW

[brave vapor]

missed a spot award

[mortal plinth]

so much Fer. wtf

[calm crow]

Missed a spot for sure

[silent canyon]

I was missing 120 Amethyst because I disconnect a powerline in the hub

[lavish raft]

wait this is an efficient plant farm right or am i being dumb

[low obsidian]

this possible??

[calm crow]

One of the places in Valley IV, you can miss out on 2 Originum plants in Science Park

[fringe geode]

your milestone dictates how much available mining locations are spawned (not every mining area has fully active nodes), so peoples output will vary

[brave vapor]

in terms of wether or not it works, it works, in terms of space usage, too much belt

[lavish raft]

yea alright

[low obsidian]

[mortal plinth]

and empty space

[silent canyon]

Ratio is correct, but to save space you can alternate seed picker and planter direction

[spring elm]

Say a recipe is 15 : 10 for 1 and it takes 10s to make, while it takes 2s for the other two. There's going to be a point where the 15 mat will cause clogging, so my problem is how do I stop the clogging? If I add a second shredder for the 10 mat, the 10 mat will then cause clogging. Im trying to make batteries but it's real slow due to the clogging...

[worthy apex]

just divide by 5 and that's your ratio

[mortal plinth]

did you do the tutorial for the farms? they give a blueprint from it, its almost ideal

[low obsidian]

Swap that planter and seedpicker near the electron pole

[spring elm]

Thanks.

[brave vapor]

belt moves 1 every 2 second, reduce that recipe timer down to 2 second roughly, thats the result

[silent canyon]

I don't like thinking in items per second.
Much prefer items per minute

Every belt is 30 items per minute

[mortal plinth]

Idk why they spread the belt two tiles instead of just one

[lavish raft]

yea was the very first blueprint i made never changed it 💀

this is better right?

[cedar bay]

Is your originium shared between Wulling & Valley 4 or is the Originum supply in Wulling completely serpate?

[sudden egret]

Sort of both

[low obsidian]

Seperated

[sudden egret]

They have separate storage, but you can build using both in either zone

[low obsidian]

That's why i didn't focus in valley IV

Maxed both tho

[sudden egret]

Steel Parts in V4 can be used to build in Wuling

but you can't transfer for use by buildings

without the storage transfer mechanic

[low obsidian]

All you need to do is:

[fringe geode]

it needs heavy work to make it more compact, but my fully 1000% self contained 100% efficient HC maker is ready
back to the drawing board

[mortal plinth]

cant relate, my setup smelled like incompetence before so i deleted everything and built everything again from the ground up

[sudden egret]

@fringe geode How compact do you want it to end up? Cause I can show you compact af

[low obsidian]

I did the same tho

And then i let it works alone

[mortal plinth]

it still kinda sucks tho....im running out of amethyst hard

i need to unlock the mine are

area

[low obsidian]

Cuz getting this is better

[low obsidian]

bruh how

[mortal plinth]

or whatever its called

[fringe geode]

for an 11 unloader 100% effiicient HC maker?

[mortal plinth]

only two amethyst mining zones

lol

[sudden egret]

@fringe geode 10 unloaders, 100% efficency, ultra-compact

[cedar bay]

Just by making full 1 battery line my orignum seems to be going down slightly (max effectiveness), does regional developement level impact yield I'm guessing this stops it reducing as you level it up?

[low obsidian]

It's not worth to use them anyway

[silent canyon]

Amethyst stops having a use after you switch to the next ore up

[low obsidian]

yeah it does

[mortal plinth]

I Need to unlock aburrey quarry

[fringe geode]

how do you get 10? you need 1 for sand

[spring elm]

I never run out of this, in fact I end up with too much. On the other hand, my rig setups are really crazy. It doesn't take long to get 18k again.

[gaunt nacelle]

Guys I wanna auto farm xiranite on wuling, but my power keep running out. How can I fix ?

[buoyant cobalt]

my chen is floating help

[silent canyon]

Have the sandleaf inline

[sudden egret]

@fringe geode No you don't, make a sand farm

[fringe geode]

sand farm counts as 1

[rough crow]

Wot you looking at huh

[sudden egret]

Make 2 sandfarms

[buoyant cobalt]

cant help it shes flying

[worthy apex]

she's a dragon, that's what they do

[mortal plinth]

welp....start of the game there isnt much to go around with just 2 zones unlocked xD

[low obsidian]

[fringe geode]

that counts as 1 but very tempting

[silent canyon]

I never import sandleaf

[gaunt nacelle]

Guys I wanna auto farm xiranite on wuling, but my power keep running out. How can I fix ?

[mortal plinth]

4 production buildings are enough to use all my amethyst

[cedar bay]

Thanks, I guess upgrading the Owl delivery centers would be a good cheap way of getting to level 4 to stop the reduction?

[mortal plinth]

and i think i got like...8

[low obsidian]

It's just 2 hour and my ferrium is halfway gone

[empty pulsar]

this should be the minmaxxed stats

i think(?)

[silent canyon]

Why would the sandleaf count as one if it doesn't use a bus

[worthy apex]

you're missing some orig

[empty pulsar]

for ore yields

[empty pulsar]

oh wait fr

[low obsidian]

Just upgrade depot or the photography area

[empty pulsar]

you mean like missing some nodes or the fact that I'm consuming more than the yield

[sudden egret]

@empty pulsar Low-key: Get rid of the extra buckflower farm, and reduce your originium useage by 1 output. the 20/m Originium can be used for depot deliveries

[worthy apex]

there's 40 more, 560

[low obsidian]

I mean like 210K is worth it right?

[rocky mantle]

Any recommendation for a materials that I will need in the future Wuling?
I have some spare spaces

[low obsidian]

You only need 160K to upgrade tho

[fringe geode]

i must do tests, and then make it extra compact

the factory must grow

[silent canyon]

The transfer stops costing material at rank 12

[empty pulsar]

I cant, I'm already productmaxxing the drugs and batteries 😔

[sudden egret]

Send refined Ferrium, it'll get you close to full utilization in Wuling for Battery + Yazhen

[empty pulsar]

cant do anything about the originium

[empty pulsar]

oh shit, gotta find it

[mortal plinth]

AH spoiler !!! i saw the grass in wuling cause of you

[sudden egret]

Fair enough, I've got my stuff min-maxed to have 20/m Orignium as my only extra non-final product output

[worthy apex]

can make 18/min of both

[spring elm]

Have you unlocked the Electric Mine RK?

[silent canyon]

Transfer is just free 25 items per minute

[low obsidian]

Owl guy is not worth don't upgrade

[sudden egret]

I'm aware, that doesn't have anything to do with depot deliveries though

[solid arrow]

Guys do all sub AIC take the same money to max out?

[silent canyon]

Wish it hit 30 items per minute

[rocky mantle]

refined ferrium? What is that?

[brave vapor]

it's cheap, but not the best

[sudden egret]

Ferrium ore sent through a refinery

[mortal plinth]

you mean this ? or the better one?

[sudden egret]

Nope, later zones get way more expensive

[spring elm]

yeah that's it

[silent canyon]

No each area gets more expensive

[rocky mantle]

Oh, you meant this?

[mortal plinth]

ofc, the other mining building is terrible

[empty pulsar]

uhh I cant find the 560, are you sure theres 560?

[sudden egret]

I'm assuming you're sending via Meta-storage, so yeah that

[cedar bay]

If you have limited wullings bills what's the most effective way of getting to level 4. I still need this much.

[empty pulsar]

im already maxed at RDM

[mortal plinth]

like what are you supposed to do with those, they fill up with 50 ore then they're frozen 💔

[rocky mantle]

Too bad I'm having zero ferrium ore rn
Any alternatives?

[low obsidian]

Sub Outpost upgrade will instantly give you a lot

[sudden egret]

idk, whatever you have extra of that Wuling needs I guess. Metastorage OP, without that then it can be a struggle to know what to send to Wuling

[worthy apex]

https://i.imgur.com/RmRyvoB.png

[empty pulsar]

holy

HOW

WHERE AM I MISSING IT I CHECKED TWICE

[sudden egret]

Level up the region

[spring elm]

@mortal plinth I used the 5 amethyst ores that is west of the PAC on a hill at the start and just let it run forever. I think the ore is useless on its own and you need a tone of the fiber made from it

[empty pulsar]

RDM? im already at 12

[worthy apex]

you get 18 belts out of it + 2/3 of a belt

[sudden egret]

Then idk, you're missing some

[empty pulsar]

WTFFFF

[silent canyon]

Check EVERY node

[mortal plinth]

Exactly, and im using a lot of that fiber

lol

[empty pulsar]

manual check it is

[sudden egret]

On the map, if you click each node, it'll have a marker saying if it has a miner on it that's power or not @empty pulsar

[worthy apex]

it will not tell you if you turned it off though, have to check by going there

[silent canyon]

If it doesn't say there's a new mining spot, it might be you have miners missing power

[empty pulsar]

I FOUND IT AT FIRST CLICK

IM A DUMBASS

SORRY

[low obsidian]

[sudden egret]

@worthy apex Didn't know that, good info

[lavish raft]

you can send some buck Cs for extra moolah

[low obsidian]

Valley gonna down lol

[empty pulsar]

EXCESS ORIGINIUM LETS GOOOO

[lavish raft]

since they use ame bottles

[mortal plinth]

💔 yeah those ones are unlocked so late you dont even have a reason to go there anymore x.x no wonder you missed them lol

[silent canyon]

Are any of yall manually transferring bottles to Wuling?

[cedar bay]

Cool I'll try that I'm on a knife edge with my power as it is. So really need a slight gain in Originum production to stop the bleeding.

[hexed raft]

does AIC upgrade expand the borders of factory area

[sudden egret]

Anyway, time for me to finish up my Factory...I've almost completed my goal, Main PAC and a singular Sub-AIC for everything in V4

[mortal plinth]

yes

well

no

my bad

[silent canyon]

No it unlocks more tech

[hushed wyvern]

need a max valley 4 factory thats for EU servers for my max plot of empty land

[hexed raft]

how am i supposed to fit my factory 😭😭

[sudden egret]

Regional Development doesn''t increase size, Tech doesn't increase size, you buy the size upgrades on little robot near the zone

[hushed wyvern]

I finished the game without factory btw

[sudden egret]

@hexed raft Optimize 😄

[mortal plinth]

the AIC steward does that

the size increase

[empty pulsar]

uhh just checking, the amethyst and ferrium yields are maxed here right? Just in case I missed something again

[hexed raft]

oh how i get tht?

[fringe geode]

Who has a code for a good compact 10 unloader batter maker?
the more compact this single battery maker is, the more i can flood the rest of the area with a repeating sandleaf/carbon/sandpowder production, and then use the remaining space for free Crust or Amethyst/Ferrium Parts, OR 2 LC battery producers (uses 8 unloaders)..
the end result will also have the batteries going into their own banks as well, so it will eventually produce full power, 1-2 sellable items, and the carbon will supply all of my Wuling Needs. FROM A SINGLE AREA IN VALLEY IV

that's my goal, a single area for Valley IV for necceseties, the rest can be pure 100% profit.

[sudden egret]

@empty pulsar Yeah, just missing some orignium

[golden burrow]

you missing 20 originium dawg

[silent canyon]

Some maniacs skip all gear and only craft the final tier of gear

[mortal plinth]

you need to unlock the steward through quests

[empty pulsar]

yea im omw to the missing originium

[mortal plinth]

the main quest i think

[woeful tartan]

Whats the best EU/NA Valley factory rn?

[mortal plinth]

or some side quest, not so sure, you'll have to check

[sudden egret]

@woeful tartan What's your definition of best?

[hexed raft]

its the msot compact design i can do with my current machines

[solid arrow]

wich one should i prioritize guys, getting more sub aic maxed out or getting more depot space (my current max is 46k)

[woeful tartan]

🤷‍♂️

[acoustic dragon]

Hi, anyone now the best factory to do in Valley 4 in early game like lv 15

[sudden egret]

@hexed raft idk then, get more tech and unlock better, then optimize some more

@acoustic dragon Hard to say, we don't know your tech level

[acoustic dragon]

Not false

[golden burrow]

i'd go for the subs, 46k max item count doesn't really give you anything

[grand vault]

The raw mats looks so fine except the Ferriums

[sudden egret]

Time to progress more story to unlock more Ferrium nodes 😄

[grand vault]

alrd done

just too few Ferrium mines in Wuling

not enough use

[solid arrow]

90 yield per min

idk bout that

[golden burrow]

that's max in wuling yeah

[potent mantle]

then stop overusing your ferrium lol

[mortal plinth]

if you dont have many things you can produce yet, it doesnt matter, because you can just produce the things you need right next to PAC and and not need to make long production lines

[solid arrow]

is it? i thought it was more

rip

[sudden egret]

Oh I didn't reaize that was Wuling, yeah you''re boned. Tone down the ferrium production. With Metastorage you can almost match a 120/m production line

[spring elm]

If you're able to get to the Aburry Quarry via Mountain Pass to the south(it's not story gated as far as I know, I was able to just waltz in there) there's another set of purple ore, this is where you gotta get crazy like me though and haul rely towers all the way there 😛 I totally did that for ferrium ore lol

[golden burrow]

technically metatransfer gives you 25/min more but ehh

[mortal plinth]

it is slightly, but i unlocked the quest a while ago and didnt do it yet xD

[empty pulsar]

feels like Wuling is gonna get an expansion in the future considering how much space we have compared to the ore yields we get

[sudden egret]

Wuling is easily missing 2 zones imo

[silent canyon]

Wuling is not finished yet

[golden burrow]

i... like yeah.... it's a live service game they're definitely gonna add more stuff...

[sudden egret]

I think they're holding off on releasing those right away so they have actual updates to hand out

So they have time for future zones

[empty pulsar]

oh ye definitely, I mean as in like, wuling is going to get expanded first before they release any new zones

[mortal plinth]

Are you sure? the map looks pretty big tho so i wouldn't be surprised if we just move on to a third zone

[low obsidian]

Have you take all originium sources?

[brave vapor]

if it follows valley, were missing bare minimum 2 extra sub pac, let alone areas

[sudden egret]

Wuling story isn't even over yet. So there's 100% more Wuling to be released

[low obsidian]

Just pull the line from the sub PAC tho

[silent canyon]

Bottom left of Wuling city there's clearly an area blocked off by NPCs where the new zone is gonna go

[golden burrow]

na we know 1.1 is definitely more wuling

[low obsidian]

Don't pull the line from Main PAC like me

[mortal plinth]

i didnt unlock it yet tho so i only know the map from seeing it on interactive map

[brave vapor]

theyre not holding off per say, they released wuling in the beta to gauge peoples interest and see how they should keep writing

[low obsidian]

I didn't expect you will get sub PAC in chapter 2 of wuling so i PULL THEM FROM MAIN PAC AT THE START OF WULING

[mortal plinth]

dang 💔

[brave vapor]

wuling's story got significantly better than valley even before the beta valley wrerite

[empty pulsar]

I would be disappointed if we move to a new region so soon ngl, Wuling is so beautiful

[low obsidian]

Wuling is peak

Waterworks is fun

[lavish raft]

wuling so much better its kinda crazy

[mortal plinth]

can you climb the wall there?

or is it just impassable terrain

[low obsidian]

Still zipline

[mortal plinth]

cool

[empty pulsar]

Wuling is probably the best looking chinese region in all the gacha games ive played

[glossy nymph]

'Wulling'

Originium---> 360 max yield.
Ferrium---> 90 max yield.

[surreal ridge]

These smokes have no ore?is lingshui the road

[nova cradle]

I finally figured out how to make a factory :D

[brave vapor]

it still has the flaw of flexing china #1 and giving you a state mandated chinese concubine, but the presentation is aaa game level in large part also because lowlight has a degree in arcitecture design

[empty pulsar]

theres an ore at the bottom

[golden burrow]

the bottom one has ore

[surreal ridge]

Is lingshui the road

[empty pulsar]

oh yea this is definitely where the new area is going to be

[surreal ridge]

Do i just hop to the mountain

[compact spruce]

If my yield and usage is the same then how come I ran out of Ferrium? I had 78k a few days ago and I already have max regional development level so transferring Ferrium to Wuling should not be a problem

[golden burrow]

there's a dark souls wall there

hit it

[surreal ridge]

Aight

[golden burrow]

are you sure you're using metatransfer and not the trash normal transfer

[compact spruce]

Like is this bugged then???

[low obsidian]

Valley could never

[sudden egret]

idk, I assumed it was like 0.01 over the limit, my number goes up

[compact spruce]

omfg you're right, thanks

[sudden egret]

Nah that's max storage transfer. Make sure it's set to metatransfer

[low obsidian]

It says originium ore??

[compact spruce]

Oh god bro am I never getting my Ferrium back to the thousands range 😭

[low obsidian]

You use too much ferrium

[marble yarrow]

aight i managed to empty my refugee outpost with 18/18 but im yet to arrange buck c

[compact spruce]

Nah I just didn't do the Metatransfer thingy

[low obsidian]

[golden burrow]

bro is trying to will ferrium into existence

[low obsidian]

It will gone within 3 hour tho

[sudden egret]

Anyone know why 764 is the limit?

It's such a weird number to have a facility limit

[low obsidian]

Valley will be 80K soon so I don't care

Also that guy who still use amethyst battery take this blueprint

[warm cosmos]

hey guys what is the best wulling stock bill making method in early game? cuz i just make lc battery farm, do i need to make syringe farm?

[silver hamlet]

how do people get 12/min batteries and have enough xiranite for syringes i tried splitting them and it tanked my battery efficiency

[golden burrow]

you only need like 9/min batteries iirc

[golden burrow]

syringes don't need xiranite

[sudden egret]

Syringes only need the Ferrium, which Wuling is lacking right now to fully sustain a line without Metatransfer

[silver hamlet]

oh alr then i got confused by the green liquid i thought it was xiranite it was actually yazhen

[low obsidian]

I made simple battery design

EFO01O4a722882IE94e4

[crimson inlet]

easiest ways to get stock bills

• selling medicine.
• selling batteries.

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

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[surreal ridge]

How many hc batteries would it take to make a factory run overnight with 5k power

[sudden egret]

Holy shit that meme is top-tier

[halcyon radish]

just realize i've been transferring from depot this entire fucking time god damn it

[low obsidian]

Ok. What's the different of meta and normal regional transfer?

[sudden egret]

@surreal ridge Like without production keeping it online?

[halcyon radish]

5.7k power is like 7 batteries

[halcyon radish]

bro didn't read tutorial

meta is out of thin air, no depot loss

[golden burrow]

easiest way to get stock bills is just to get lucky and have a +1200% dump lmao

[surreal ridge]

Ye

[golden burrow]

7 batteries per min so times 60 times how many hours

[crimson inlet]

I have lego bricks costing me 179 each for a friend's buying price of 4k 💀

[golden burrow]

fuck off

[low obsidian]

Ok nevermind meta storage is bad

[crimson inlet]

bought for 17k, I now have 1.13m

[sudden egret]

with your amount, I'd say assume 8/m cconsumption. So 480 an hour. so multiply that by hte number of hours you don't plan on having more batteries made

[golden burrow]

😭

[low obsidian]

I read the detail

Meta storage will immediately send the raw ferrium to wuling

But the stockpile is better cuz both run in ferrium

[halcyon radish]

we going stock dump for stock dump rn?

[crimson inlet]

1 MORE NUMBAH FOR FUNNI

[sudden egret]

Don't send Wuling raw Ferrium, send it refined Ferrium instead to reduce the number of buildings you need by 1

[low obsidian]

Same

[glossy nymph]

NOM NOM

[crimson inlet]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

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[low obsidian]

Oh yeah good idea

[sudden egret]

Ferrium and Ferrium Ore literally have the same value, and Ferrium Ore can only be turned into Ferrium

[glossy nymph]

Lol

[crimson inlet]

Infrastreet

[surreal ridge]

Alright

[sudden egret]

So there's no reason to send Ore instead of the refined material

[surreal ridge]

Wu ling is killing me

[sudden egret]

Wuling is annoying everyone

[golden burrow]

who is this everyone

[surreal ridge]

We

[sudden egret]

Anyone that sees 90/m ferrium preventing full syringe production

[pearl terrace]

I’m alive again

[surreal ridge]

I finished my valley and delayed wu ling a bit cuz i thought it would share the same depot/resources

[pearl terrace]

It’s killing everyone

[pearl terrace]

LOL

[golden burrow]

i'm gonna be honest i haven't sold a single syringe/drink in like 3 days

[cloud wyvern]

Wu ling is great wdym? much easier than valley 4 currently

[nocturne jewel]

maybe i shoudnt get that loan

[pearl terrace]

🙏 😭 ?

[cloud wyvern]

Just get 2 battery and 1.5 syrynge production that should be quite simple

[cedar bay]

I just upgraded the area for the sub outpost didn't give me anything. I'm guessing that you meant when it levels up due to trade but that'll take days.

[surreal ridge]

Ts how dictators win elections

[cloud wyvern]

Sure its annoying seeing so much red but you exhaust the valley stock so eh

[cedar bay]

I think owls are my best path for upgrade rn

[umbral galleon]

what is this?

[golden burrow]

too many buildings, bridges/splitters and stuff count as buildings

[sudden egret]

It's the weird limit on how much the factory can grow

[umbral galleon]

i only want to place 4 more bridges

[surreal ridge]

Someone will fill the entire map with ziplines or whatever

[golden burrow]

thanks for telling me but i can't really do anything about that my guy

[cloud wyvern]

I dont understand lol

Whats wrong with wuling

[empty pulsar]

how does this even happen

[glossy nymph]

I am literally keeping them poor

[cloud wyvern]

i spent 20 years on the buck A capsule but wuling was so fast

[surreal ridge]

Xi jinping

[umbral galleon]

but the thing says 761/768 ?

[surreal ridge]

Buck a is literally so easy

[umbral galleon]

does bridge count as 2 or sumn

[surreal ridge]

Double this double that we goood

[empty pulsar]

the Wuling syringe is still tier C, I'm 99% sure they will be giving us a recipe expansion when they release more areas for Wuling

[golden burrow]

ah and you can't place a single bridge down? 🤔 haven't personally gotten that error so maybe someone else can help

[low obsidian]

Upgrade depot node and environment thing

[silk depot]

Hi
so I'm not exporting these two from either the depot buses or AIC
so I know this is some kind of error in "theoretical data" but what's going on exactly? Is it something like some facility can use it faster but isn't because it is clogged down the line and it is showing maximum?

[low obsidian]

Speaking of days that only took me 2 day to clear the upgrade

[golden burrow]

most likely, theoretical data works off placed buildings

[low obsidian]

I reached wuling in day 3

Cleared all the xiranite build and upgrade the SUB oupost at day 5

[surreal ridge]

I reached wu ling on day 10

[low obsidian]

Currently idling on all region just do depot delivery and off

[surreal ridge]

[sour sage]

what does this do

[lavish raft]

means your power is low

[surreal ridge]

Drain ur bals

[low obsidian]

All goes down

[sour sage]

how do i make it not happen

[surreal ridge]

Be powerful

[sour sage]

how

[lavish raft]

build thermal banks

[sour sage]

ok

[marble yarrow]

holy 2 hc 2 buckA in main

[cedar bay]

I just need to get it done before this hits zero but I just wasted 20k upgrading the area of my Node should still be doable I think.

[cosmic kraken]

So i get the base in valley 4 is the main but what am i going to do with the other 3 bases?

[low obsidian]

Have you made the yazhen syringe thing?

[golden burrow]

uhh build stuff in it?

[crude dirge]

Have each base focus on a specific production line, for example.

[low obsidian]

EFO01O4a722882IE94e4

Use this for battery tho

[cerulean quest]

yo am i stuck with carrying stuff by hand till i get lvl 12 on valley 4 or can i somehow farm citrine and the sandflower in wuling

[cedar bay]

Just 1 battery line rn in Wulling I barely have enough resources for anything else with level 3 regional development. I'm making the blue batteries in Valley 4 rn.

Need to start making the purple ones soon

[empty pulsar]

just produce them in wwuling

[silent canyon]

What's max ore in Wuling?

[golden burrow]

you can, switch the planters to "not water mode"

[cerulean quest]

ahhh

thx

[golden burrow]

360 orig 90 ferro

60 xira but that's coal not ore

[silent canyon]

I appear to be missing 50 Originium

[golden burrow]

have you been to the dark souls wall cave

[cerulean quest]

ican do the big boy stuff now thx

[silent canyon]

Which area?

[golden burrow]

thankfully someone asked this 15 mins ago

@silent canyon

[silent canyon]

Oh wtf that area is accessible?

[golden burrow]

yeh

hit the dark souls wall and it will go away

[crude dirge]

Alright, so... I am facing the problem that my originium usage is just a little too high. Is there any way to increase this purely on Valley IV, or do I have to decrease the battery production until I colonize Wuling?

[golden burrow]

na 560 is max

[silent canyon]

You're just using too much

[surreal ridge]

Yo u sure theres an ore in the mountain

[crude dirge]

Roger that

[surreal ridge]

Im gonna run my electric towers inside this messy building

🥀

[golden burrow]

it's a cave my guy

[surreal ridge]

Same thing

[stray plover]

uhhh i just deleted most of my thermal banks why is it still telling me this 😭

[empty pulsar]

forge

[golden burrow]

you have too many forges most likely

max is 2 with upgrade

[stray plover]

ohhhhhh