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i have added the nodes to the zipline route but how do i actually ride the route
this only appears on the taller advanced one, not the starter zipline
I had no more space to power this bottom refinery so i had to put an extra pylon outside
Start going on the zipline, you get a button prompt
oh its like a QTE
once you make a route that appears on the map, just press e or tap the prompt

i couldnt find a way to delete the route, so your prov gonna have to store it then place it down agaib
Man, I should've thought of external pylons
thanks guys
You could but its just reserved for edge units
your giving people rock cancer then sell rock cancer related product back to them for a profit
me forcing the locals to buy my batteries and quack flower medicines: I'M HELPING YOU
and that rock cancer wasn't intentionally spread all over the planet by Endfield
So are we supposed to ignore the Æther?
They can't fight the Æther themselves
Atleast its not Pandora colonisation style
what is that lmao
I am still wondering if "I brought rock cancer to this planet, maybe that was wrong" is gonna be a long term theme or if we've stopped thinking aobut it now that we realize we have rock-cancer based superpowers
the bottom line will always be: it wasnt there in the first place.
you say that like it's a bad thing
you're spreading misinformation
my farm lookin clean though
nice
Wanna see something?
bro are you actually upset rn? it's a joke
Yeah right
i think the small notes you collect still hints and the grim dark storytelling arknight is known for, honestly i hate this type of lore dumping since i first played fallout 4
20 max plots is upsetting tho
When you realize you can build your factory anywhere
True we need more
i dont think the belts will work
you can't build belts outside the zone my guy
I know, but you can build everything else
and if your facility is not entirely within the AIC area, the facility won't actually take in anything 😔
bro doing manual labor in anime girl factorio 😭
on demand rock cancer dust making then throw it into the air
You CAN build pipes though
Yes
oh i wonder if anyone has done pipe art yet
Whats the maximum for wuling ore wise
90 ferro, 360 orig
its basically a whole mechanic cause some puzzles need you to run the pumps and pipes to finish them
350
should be 360?
90 for ferrium, i think 360 for originum
350
i have 360
how
my guy spreading misinformation 😭
Did somebody say pipes??
you're missing a mine
Which one though I double checked before
i cant tell if my mans baiting or not anymore
a low purity originium deposit specifically
wait in theoretical i have 90 for ferrium
uh well this response is true, but it feels baiting XD
Guyz i dont get how to increase power output of the aic and sub pac
research thermal bank
use thermal banks to burn originium / batteries
its the max amount basically, you could make some more via metastorage, but its only 25/min
feed thermal banks batteries
I have so that's the use of thermal banks
or originium ore
Give us a weird plant that we need to water with xiranite or something
i can also just meta storage finished batteries
you missed a mine 
Is yvonne really a part of the team
not accurate, yvonne is not a lust provoking woman
sorry ping
Yes, but not that much
NEW COUPON CODE WOOHOO!!
you're likely missing ONE deposit on one of the mines
gib NAO
true but the batteries are worth more
It says it on gathering tips
i will launch game just fo ru
everyone is saying 360, your just gonna have to double check your regional level and mine placement
to take a screenshot
my guy getting baited 😭
its ok i can run it in the background for wuling river sounds lol
I am not missing anything, so is this like purity issue?
at dev11, you have max Valley ores
if you're at under redevelopment 11 yes
pump that shi up soldiah
you cant assume someone is baiting all the time, unless its really obvious like saying yvonne isn't a lust symbol

bro is literally addicted to yvonne's cake
the wires are somewhat cleaner and everything fits minus the plant stuff within 21
the game has been out for like a week and she has already made me lose GALLONS bro
ignore the belt on the left,its my measuring tape
Thanks
a banana is better for scale
Doesn't some mine have some non opened node before reaching certain development level
seriously tho,this better?
i just can't with the tail, not it with the scales
my man is missing out
You're missing one, if you're at outpost lvl 11. Probably a couple where you couldn't put mining drills the first time
thats great
I have an Estelle though
Should I be worry? The ores are depleating rapidly
yes panic
gonna wake up to a dead base

If you have rig on the vein but misplaced the pylons it wont tell you on the dot you have to click on the vein itself and youll see it say “unpowered”
Panic until your heart starts racing faster than usain bolt
you have all the right ratios of belt/process your good
you'll be fine unless your battery output (once your ores reach zero) cant keep up with your thermal banks
I was baiting, Lú😔
Yeah, making too much stuff
Bruh it took me way too long to boot the game 
it's fine then, my battery are plently
do you just ship in ferrium bottles from valley iv constantly for wuling
i don't
make them in Wuling
I do
I'd kill off anything using originium that isn't your batteries
its an ore supply issue
if its just for the quest relating to the sprayer, you dont consume the bottle, just the liquid
but it's all battery 
You can make a Yazhen Syringe farm with 90/min usage
if your battery production cant keep up, you will have a blackout once the battery stockpile is exhausted.
but this is unlikely so you should be fine
else just make them locally instead
560 is enough for 3 batteries, you're using more on something
its for syringes
yeah... I need sleep
Do you want a bp for it
Could it be this?
i have a syringe farm but it seems its limited by ferrium ore > botttles
Yeah, your SC batteries are eating them
you should place the bus in the center of the map so you can access the backside too
i forgot it uses that despite i made that factory line myself
My bp uses 90 ferr per min
why are you making 48 sc batteries if you're already making purples
1260/min usage on ferrium is hella crazy
Something else is eating your ferrium too, you should have enough for the buck/citrome [A] you're making
oh then im doing something wrong
lower tier town possibly
Lemme see the farm
surely its the sc batteries
sc also eats ferrium
ill troubleshoot myself first ty
Ah, right, that explains it
That's a bit difficult, these guys want sc battery
They'll take HC once they're leveled more
which heal is better, 20% or 5% 6 sec? the 2nd one better no?
What is this even for
Which you're almost at
turn off 1 hc battery line then
Looks right to me
Oh, that good new
can someone send the current smallest hc battery setup so i can get some inspiration
Guys any early game wuling blueprint?
What does repairing facilities do?
I'm out of steel parts, I'm too lazy to make more, so I'm just gonna metastorage them
Focus on battery lwk
Build some gold component and when you have enough of them go double battery setup imo
it keeps them there next time you wake up
They give you some oro, never used again outside the first area
Wuling is early game? I played since day 1 and haven't unlock Wuling yet lmao 
Oke noted
i did hc valley battery farm + xiranite comps for 1 day. do some of the enviromental monitor for some starting bux
can u show me the current best hc battery setup
2nd if you don't need the HP Right Now, though healing items have different limits/procs in battle.
So if you don't repair them in time will it disappear?
if you like that 1 turret that keeps aggroing the damn enemy when you dont wanna fight, you repair them
then after u can swtich to a combi of syringes/batteries
yeah
I meant like if you have not explored wuling yet
Nah, wuling is at the very end, most of wuling isn't even unlocked yet
You NEED to reach RDL 4 before even starting PAC btw
ur in for a treat because imo wuling is so much better
If it reaches 0% stability it's gone?
If you've just unlocked wuling I would first focus on getting a single efficient battery setup and go from there
yo what should i do with my sub pac if i alr make capsule a in main pac
Where do I find those
its somewhere in #1461542035617091681 , i built my own lines and they arent easy to do a screenshot
me when bamboo forest + fog in the distance
Wuling is surprisingly far, and Sandleaf builds will keep you busy in Valley IV
Xiranite comps I mean
Oh you mean player facilities, yeah, you repair them if you want them to stay
Make more capsule A
i'd just do msq wuling before you do much ngl most of it is locked behind it
(Also HC batteries)
just better writing music and zhuang too imo
far because you have to date the state mandated chinese concubine before even getting the aic, basically at the very end of whats available
dayum, okay then
Do they comeback?
bro is actually just down bad for hot green lizard lady
Im personally making Buck Capsule A in all 3 Sub PAC areas
No bully tangtang she's lovely 
Different player facilities will appear
What is that 😭
Oh rip then
There's enough raw resources in V4 to make 18/m buck A, which is 3 filling units running constantly
main story quest?
Eventually you can make your own stuff
Main story quest
o ic
i was more talking about the head of wuling, tang tangs cool, i like her ingame animation when you first meet her
Ohh, I am done with it
i read it as "misc" lol\
I'm out of xiranite though so I can't really set up ziplines in wuling
main scenario quest :godo:
i found this one which but it only runs 2 thermal banks when im fairly certain it can handle 4
ffxiv player (slur)
so i should place another capsule a and add batteries on my sub pac right?
setup mineral beds, do the environment monitory and stock trading for some starting bills and buy area and depot unlocks for core pac then set up baattery/comps/syringe farm
I have a battery farm in each of the sub areas and the extra space in them is where I put my sandleaf/buckwheat farms
Yes
You can make xiranite if you have the factory unlocked
honestly, just build more thermal banks then, power isnt really an issue, youll hover at around.4500-under 6k at the end if it all
technically you only need like 7.5 batteries /min or smth bc wuling outpost income is still shit
I just gave buck a farm in all sub pac a and battery on main aic
18/min for both buck a and battery for me rn
I do but I'm making stuff with them
I have setup all mineral beds possible (exception is the bamboo area that is locked). Okay thankss, imma do the rest
Do you like, need it to make more pylons and stuff? Because ziplines don't take xiranite
yeah but thats outside the 30x25 box,whats the point of it being the smallest if it doesnt even have all the stuff in it
Does the next upgrade increase the limit of the forge?
Current limit is 2 Skye of the forge
we dont know really
u get up to 2, you unlock 2nd one in tech tree
you only get 2 max rn
And you get that from tech tree
unless they give us more ways to spend them, 2 forges is enough to keep afloat, not enough to be comfy, basically managing limited recourses
90 ferrium is making me bald
I'm thinking about upgrading my relay tower to xiranite towers cause I heard that you only need to place them within 80 meters to each other and you don't need to connect them
In wuling, yeah, just use those
Yeah that's holding me back
That’s holding everyone back
is the smallest even 30x25
Manually connecting normal towers in wuling sounds like ass, the place is designed for you not to have to do that
you can't use xiranite towers in valley4 tho
I don’t have t creds to level up shit
30x25 is the smallest discovered so far
Ran out of wuling stock bill to make gear
noted
I know but it will still be useful in wuling
it is impressively small
ye you should use the green towers in wuling ofc
I have my buck in main, I do need to redesign it tho, ill probably do that today tbh.
Gl!!!
1 line making 1 battery, half/1 line to components and the other half to battery, thats enough to consistently empty the outpost and have some components to reroll gears, including the ferrium syringes
What's the ideal yield and usage for battery?
I like the fact though you can transfer resources from valley 4 depot
Anyone know how to place pipe splitter at agricultural test site?
Not sure if you could place 3 water pump there to supply 3 sprinkler
Meta storage or wtv it is so peak
the entire thing hinges on 2 belts becase 1 belt does 30/min, however you wanna use it is up to you
Where is the overlap?
The only reason my ferrium isn’t 0 rn
120 usage per 90 yield
if your a wuling millionaire, you might prefer to shift as much xiranite to components without bricking the factory to reroll
if your still busy upgrading stuff, little to no xiranite components until your comfy to make some
build mode > logistics tab
iirc
you can do that
i'm supplying like 20 sprinklers w/ 1 pump
Like you said Das only when you are millionaire
I currently don't have any issues with wuling stock bills but my problem is my base is not sustaining xiranite well I have 60 yield and 90 usage and
did i do good?
i think i made mine too vertically optimized because the straight line i got left fits the plants stuff but not the belts
huge blunder
I don’t even have creds to build comp rn
the stock exchange can possibly give you the fabled 1200% sell, which might facilitate moving over to comp
is oke, you should have enough unloaders to still use up all your ores
nah,im determined to make it work
o 
Who's the best person to put in outpost in wuling?
Today’s reset is gonna fix my acc
I’m using lifeng rn
What's his bonus?
20% stock bill return and 20% outpost exp return
then just use less, as long as your making enough battery to not brick your factory, they are making it clear that being able to get over 60/min xiranite is a luxury, not a nescessity
I don’t think there is any char which can use all 3 of bonus effect rn
Like rn I'm using wulfgard and he has 40% chance to earn 1 more
what is the base size for the wuling main base?
I lwk forgot
80x80
I’d have a current max out main base area
78x78 if you don't want to count the yellow line
base not upgraded
wuling main base is bigger than valley? thats pretty cool
ohh idk 
afaik surt, angelina, and yvone are 3 bonusers
this is secondhand info tho so could be wrong
For wuling?
I don’t think so
I’ll check
Oh
No, there's no character for wuling right now
prob the next patch 6ers
That's just enough for me to maintain trading in the outpost but I don't have the luxury to craft xiranite facilities
Yeahh
Lifeng is the best one rn
I think
Pretty balanced
Whos Angelina??
Gilberta
Ahk
Facilities do round robin for all their oputputs correct?
kinda weird how ardelia is a one bonus for power plat, considering that she's literally there
Jincao Drink
conveyor speed is 30 per minute yes?
yessir
and so i need all three channels to output sandflower powder
Yo is liquid xiranite worth using over clean water for the drone?
rahhhh
yessiree
liquid xiranite is only for the purple mud
otherwise just use boring water
you dont need alot to make xiranite facility, just turn off a single xiranite line for 1 night and youll have enough, unless you craft them in the thousanda
That means I have enough liquid xiranite
That’s peak
liquid xiranite has another use actually, dyeing all the water puke green
enough until the next patch when literally every road is covered in aggeloi koom
i slept and woke up to this, despite the reserve 3.4k and never happened before, what should i do
I have 1.8k
🙏 💀
Do you have a reserve storage of batteries?
ok fair
I’m covering whole of wuling in green with that
Jump start by manualy putting batteries/originium in thermal power
My plan was to only make around 300
Like 1 full protocol stash
But I forgot to turn it off
And it just made more
i mean extra supplies is never bad
i have like 8k bombs i'm prolly never gonna use
xiranite will never be enough 🥲
I have 80k
what is thissssss
Or 78.8k rn I think
The login screen
bro gonna win the first world war of talos with that one
Wait lemme check
i dont see a factory so yeah im confused too
Wuling domination starts tomorrow after daily reset
A factory build straight from the asylum just to maximize meds maker efficiency

map update?
Does killing mobs for wuling stock bills feasible?
I’m just gonna max out my base Tmr
my brother you can move the pac
Welp, im used up all possible space in Valley 4 either to make gear material or battery material so yeah lol
What's the maximum Originum yield are you guys having btw? I happen to hit a break even with my Originum yield/usage
Which region?

Valley IV
560 is max
It’s 560
if my thermal banks are getting clogged should i make more?
these are max
How tf are thermal banks getting clogged
Wtf
Bruh, if I start using one belt-line of Originum, my factory will eat dirt
Yes
only make more thermal banks if you need more power
200 plus blue batteries
Plus well, my team is not kinda ready and i have to speedrun to build one so yeah im not even dare to open a new production line in Wuling

Damn
@golden burrow 74.5k
what u doink
thats a lot of explosive
I love explosions
what else are you gonna use amethyst for :^)
if you enjoy the combat that much, then its one way to make money
isnt it like
Penguin Logistics would like to purchase
<= 400 per kill
i eat it
....
isn't it like 100
so the game has decided to to just not distribute my batteries evenly
generally speaking, eating raw minerals is bad for your dental health
yeah but it looks so yummy tho
that satysfying crunch is different from eating the rock cancer

I would clog 2 stations to have a controlled passage of batteries
thats wasteful and i'm trying to avoid that
What's wasteful is having to find your factory on inconsistent delivery of power
surely dumping some 300 batteries is not that bad of opportunity cost
is this the max valley 4 production
this ok already
if it doesn't hit 0 i'm fine
yes
Yes
it functions.
buck C or the citrome C
nah wdym, you can totally use that 20OOre/min to get slightly more 😂
Should I make Buck c instead of explosives
but you cant use that to explode stuff yk?
Hmmm
Yeah, my factory is trying to commit sudoku once I place one more Originum related manufacturer
its for money
amethyst pizza
Crazy
not everything needs to be for money 
Exactly
Explosives
Over anything
nah we are a capitalist
Any day
money isnt good for your health either, just helps you buy something that is healthy
emotionakl support industrial explosives will go a long way, trust
We unfortunately do not have a calculator company that can make guided missiles
the missile knows where it is because it knows where it isnt
yet
I wish, best we have is a water gun that shoots sewage water
did you mean POWERWASHING
next update we get a turret that needs you to produce missles and that turret is gonna have its own line of production just to make it
I stand corrected, power washing
yessss
YEEEE
if only HE turret used industrial explosive lol
but like fr
not this metastorage transfer duping
Explosive manufacturing in full swing
okay some funkyness with route selection
what do you guys use for depot deliveries if you have a max factory
sandleaf powder :^)
Yo what’s the team yall using rn
Sandleaf powder
for metastorage, ferrium, i already step past deliveries so idk really, i made wuling self sufficient as soon as possible
sandleaf powder is the most power efficient way of generating renewable fodder xd
my baby first steps of wuling
This so us
Metastorage is the life saviour
i guess so huh
XD
How do you enter the fuck ahh
Not enough relay towers
i did it before even learning that it just dupes the item you want, not moving it
wuh
Photo mode
Wait
IT DUPES
AND NOT
LIKE
TRANSFER???
Hold scam button and choose photo mode
scam button lool
only at devolpment level 15
...what?
yeah, xiranite is forbidden aparently, i just set it to ferrium and never bothered
What?
Once u hit Region lvl 12 in Valley 4
with the same button you scan or bomb just hold it and switch to camera
*12 not 15 sorry
oh yeah it is 12, where is 15 from
but yeah
I know Bombs bro
I’m a passionate bomb lover
Alright, time to put down some more relays and find every SOS
i'm currently duping wuling batteries
Just upgrade everything to lv 4 should get you there easily
I just need 1 more lvl in the last 2 outposts and im at lvl 12
If I place a relay tower that's connected on the crane in the quarry zone then rotate the crane will it still power them?
is this more efficient in terms of raw materials?
afaik, ferrium ore is 25/min max
dense originium powder gets you 50/min originium ore equivalent
I hate the 2nd outpost
Took me the longest to get to lv 4
I mean i got a lot of Buck A, only issue is they dont generate money fast enough
This so real
All my shi is drained to lit 0 stock bills all the time
given that its also duping the xanarite i would imagine
should i make any changes??
Now i am not missin anything right? Reached Region level 11, and yield shot up
there is argument i should be duping non renewable fine foods though
oh i see, yes that is pretty good considering you cant get any more xiranite
a bit of Amethyst left
Make one more battery production setup
And
A lot of amethyst left
Probably from Quarry
oh
Has anyone tried this?
yea it's pretty low
It’s 240 of Amethyst
missed it somewhere, gonna find it. thanks xD
Check the quarry first
Fr the factory must grow
It’s probably there or from refugee
found the problem
🙏 💀
Quarry done xD
Bomboclaaaat
Peak
it would be nice if i could get the banks synced but whatever
this is 2/min usage?
yeah
i think i removed a tower when i was adjusting, which cut off power there
Happens
two banks makes way more power than needed
Oh ryt i never finished all the tower defenses in valley 4
so they can turn off for 20 seconds
: D now ima finally start with Wuling
I have 2 left
I whish they let us build 3 sky forges instead of 2 in the limits atm
and recharge the battery when they come back
Literally everyone rn
nah i want more ferrium more tbh
o hec, i was almost about to have a blackout in 7hrs 
God damn
yup, my battery production line got it capabilities reduced by 25% because of it
Uhhhh about the purple battery
It needs 2:3 blue and yellow ratio
1 blue takes 10 sec so 2 blue takes 20 sec
1 yellow takes 4 sec so 3 blue takes 12 sec
If i have 5 blue line, 3 yellow line; it will take 4 sec to get 2 blue and 3 yellow (the crafting ratio)
Is this like the correct math way
or some amythest so i can make basica batteries
the ferrium bottleneck is exactly why im having withdrawals and needing to play other factory games
its the 60/min xiranite that promotes absolutely schizo very impressive recourse management with the tools we got
Damm
And wtf
I just saw
That
I
Have 8/min use of HC battery
Man my factory takes up too much space, no clue what I should build on the corner utilizing all the depots
I havent done a lot in wuling factory, just added syringe and xyrinite prod today
I understand 5
weird, mine only 4 and 6 on theory
is making canned citrome A same as making buck capsule A?
I’ll check it up
its not enough space to copy paste a build you want, but more than enough to use up all the ores provided and then some
Maybe someone have guide for Valley IV ziplines?
check ur logistics , if they split 2 much they gonna reduce the efficients
why that fluctuating
does trading the preferred item gives bonus?
I have no idea
I'd like to maximize all my depots but the space is kinda screwing me over
omg this is such a long grind
yes
Holy fuck
but they work at 100% capacities & they never shut-off
54
real gamer right here
it would be a dissaster if 1 of them shut off even for a split sec
i had enough depot space to start arguing that depot loader had a use compare to stashes, i alr got 18/18
two items means you can go for longer without the depot filling up.
im not sure if the preferred item does anything though (only buck cap A is preferred in valley)
i have 3 in my friendlists who reached 54 like 2-3 days ago
holy moly
crazy
idk what the valley preference does, they sell abt the same
can you check the 2hr chart
and bc they're more potent healing items
What’s yall teams rn gng
o hey you can see the power transitions xD
wait actually 6 in total now
Tf
my team didnt really contribute much to the industrial revolution, but i use an ice team and i never switch off snowshine
Man I should try that, the only problem is that it eats space with conveyors
i started with default team (for entire MSQ so far) but i am building electric team rn
unless your inputs are packed together next to the output
not saying you can rely on it per say, but if your build somehow got an output right next to a depot spot, you can save some belt space and space in general(+ energy compare to stashes) by using the loader
Is it normal to have a ton of unused factory space in Wuling? I feel like I set up everything I can with the resources available
yes
Not really
I ran out of space yesterday
Like, I guess I can produce every type of plant, but there isn't much need for that
the game is not a brutal interpretation of a factory sim, so you get a ton of space to let you do rather innefficient stuff
Yes
True
Hmm ceertainly a challenge
min maxing early will save more space in the future when we get more mining deposits
or wait for BPs to drop
I can fit everything in core AIC with only 1 area expansion.. even that I still have spaces
valley is presumably done, and when i say 18/18 i meant the buck a/hc battery/ min, which uses exactly 1080 ferrium, the highest possible ferrium output in valley
I'm assuming I'm gonna rebuild my factory anyway when we get more deposits, and presumably another battery/syringe to make
aight thats great
i did a messy jincao build there 
(extra space go brrrr)
nvm i cleaned up the messy jincao build
i put down the syringes and regret that some missions needs you to walk past the pac area, the spot where i placed all my machines at
i have a 240/min jincao build (due to how the crucible ratios work) for when we have more ferrium 
Dammm
-# i will probably scrap it for the jincao A item when it exists
we need more bombs
EXAVTLY
Endfield military industrial complex
MORE BOMBS!!!
i tend to keep my build copy paste friendly, unless its absolutely massive to make sure that if i need to, i can place down more without much worry
We need to go to Iberia to extract more Ferrium
Is there a way to transport items to wuling? I want to make gears but most of my ores on valley IV
go to your ship and transfer stuff
you mean smaller builds? (like 3/min cap A)
or a 1-BP sized BP, within 50x50 size limit and whatever the facility limit is
select valley depot and then drag to inventory then change to wuling depot and deposit
regional transfer, theres a tutorial, no 10 rolls though so not alot of people read it
The factory must grow
How is your ferrium
Me:
see this^
not for blueprinting per say, just bulk mode then paste over
The only resource that matters
Thanks
Don't drag just hold and stash every ferrium
theres aparently diff limit for blueprinting and copy paste, cause i had a build i can copy but not blueprintable
Not convincing enough
Do you guys have any advice to make a factory like make faster for example: 1min became 6min. Something like that?
real question is why did production only start 5 minutes ago... it should be 36/min at all times frfrfr
duplicate the production line
Compact memery (can probably be even more compact) (ignore the Xiranite stuff)
cuz it had to be taken down
you build more of the same, or make sure that your feeding the machine properly
🤨
Oh okay thx
Wait is it slow? When the conveyers are far away from the machine
5 actually means 1
If only some colony buy them tbh
a long belt, just makes the startup slow, if your making as fast as the belt can take that is
maybe we were the industrial explosive colony all along
Yo guys how do i get my ferrium ore to my AIC factory?
you proggress the story ubtil you can make the drill mk2
So basically if I make more machines and feed the right conveyers to them the higher the min's I get?
make sure have mk2 electric miner, once powerd it automatically transfers like the other minerals.
the conveyor is slow. but its the problem of some item took 10sec to make. so if you didnt include the waiting time of some item, the production line will be slow overall
I already have it
theres a tutorial for that, doesnt reward you a 10 roll though sorry
then it just works if you gave it energy, again the tutorial tells you this
oh thats normal, a recipe that takes 10s will just have 6/min output (20% of the capacity of a belt)
Is output speed constant among all facilities?
no, there is 10s and 2s facilities
maybe 1s but i dont remember
but the recipes does take into account thoses wait time so most factory line are pretty efficient
(mightve been pipe related)
depends on the recipe
some big item will take 6/min so if you want more, you just have to make more production line of said item
you can argue that the sandleaf dust outputs the fastest and thus, the shredder is the fastest machine in the game cause you need 3 belts
should i make any changes i tried to maximize all my small bases all 3 of them look the same thoughts?
well that's not good ...
surely a good use of the 46k ferrium in depot
seeing everyone doing the vertical grinder strat like me before i learn a more efficient way makes me feel better about myself
Less neatness more spaghetti
Is there a more space efficient way to produce sandleaf?
This thing takes up half the AIC
and its good, its possible to hit 18/18 with that setup
ooo tell me more can you send how the more efficient way looks
I only stop making Yazhen Syringe ... and I make 2 Jincao Drink farmers and the Ferrium usage just go from 80 to 210 
I build my factories to be self-sufficient on sandleaf
if your shredding the sandleaf and outputting on 1 belt, thwn its a you issue, else everyone has it
the consumptions goes almost triple

Rate my essence factory setup
1 seed picking unit produce 2 seeds per plant, so you should use 2 planting unit per seed picking unit
is poison the best thing here? i just went full shock
u can also use pipe mergers to build a wall to trap enemies
Those poor agelloi
There's something wrong with my base, it happened again from 5.6k power to 200 power, my HC battery yield is 18/8 and my ore yields are the max on valley iv, i leave the game and comeback a few hours to a base with no power and ore yields are 0, my depot for ores are never 0 though just the amount at when i leave the game. what do you think causes this?
check the actual battery input
The slow with the stun from the HE works great imo.
make sure they got enough oridust
why is my theoretical higher if my ratios are perfect
how's this even possible
I have 2 forge of the sky already in wuling city, I can't put another 1 in jingyu valley? is the limit covered in all wuling maps?
input stock
enemies the second they spawn
Chat what should I be producing before going to wuling
the yield and usage is at 18/8 i'm not sure how's that enough when people have 18/higher
when i had this, i was using a stash for multple items, when it got full, the stash clogged and my production lines stopped.
maybe you have something similar?
🤔
Yeah
Its a repeat of [plant] [seed] [plant]
Like what should I be producing
you got two snoozers, find out why
i thought that bu ferrium production is backed up and the powder is al being used
u can just put pipe items in the world (toolbox -> facilities)
you give people a sandbox lite, you get people cheesing the fuck out of every problem to optimize the fun out of it
theoratical is calculated based on how many machine you construct if you manage to make the machine run at full inventory
but funni

no i mean how are they so close together
Wait... but then how do you activate it?
oh those are pipe mergers, you can do that
do you mean originium powder or origocrust powder? I ahve enough and my depot never gets touched
Spaghetti ❤️
mah Jincao goes stonks
but my Ferrium gonna goes stinks soon
i assume you can activate it through the 3 walls (?)
i still kept the vertical grinder cause it just works
its supposed to be a full inventory tho :/
How many thermal bank is enough for Valley 4
does it do anything offensively or just for looks
good use of the depot ferrium 🗣️
7 or 8
You gotta be like right on top of it to activate it. Maybe they changed it in patch yesterday
i think it traps enemy, the pipe wall has collision
it prob blocks them from moving
ah originium powder. the battery take 1part 2powder basically.
I'm not sure, before i leave the game the factory belts seem to be working, the only thing that clogged and I fixed was the buck capsule a factories, the battery factories were smooth belts.
My thermal loop has 9
eh wait wrong battery
I think I might be able to remove 2
yea, but try looking at the moulding unit, idk if it bugged or what but it keep having idle windows while other machines having no idle windows, that caused so many production slowed
Yeah look how close I am, still no activate prompt
i mean
aw ig it was patched 😔
I basically just copied the mega base blueprints from the Renegade guy from youtube, even the base layout, i'm not sure why i;m having this issue, I suspect when the ore yields hit 0 but I've checked my rigs and they're all working
To pass through any extras that I can use to sell
ok its 2steelpart 3 dense ori powder
the extras don't get outputted if you it ends at the thermal bank
any suggestion i can build with amethyst and some orig and fer
its okay to copy from blueprints. if so, check input/output of every machine, check if theres missing unloader
10:15 is actually 2:3 
18/min capA, 18/min HC, you can use amethyst on bottles or capC
explosives
Hello im new here, i unlocked most parts in valley IV, do I need to bring electricity everywhere I want to mine resources from the main AIC ?
ah true, icant believe i forgot this
I'm not sure if that is the issue to be honest, again when I come back my ore yields become 0, even with 200 power there should be at least some yield for a few running rigs
in general yes, unless thre is a subAIC in the area
for example why it have idle windows while other machines run continuously????
U unlock 3 outposts in three areas so u can get power from there aswell
will there be one on the right side ?
Can anyone write out the math to balance the purple battery input
cause input time is slower than process time
what is your ori and ferrium yield?
interesting did not think of that but when you do the vertical strat dont you save more space over all horizontally so you can fit more depot unloaders or is it the same?
ok now what should i change
Oh okay thank you very much !
before i leave the game, it's the max for valley iv, 560 for ori, 240 amethys, 1080 ferrium
wdym?
oh wow not that either huh
can you share it like this?
your steel input is slower than your moulding speed
whatwhat is this protocol depot for
maybe you get 2 steel every 3 seconds but moulding only takes 2 sec
nvm i just realised that you need 2 steel to produce 1 bottle
to store extra 300 items when depot is full
its just better space usage in general it seems, you could find a way to cram a belt going back to the.middle shredder that uses sandleaf but as said, this is a strat i learned after i got into daily gacha mode
that's not necessary
if it's full it would just clog the unloader
minor tweak in my speghetti factory
the fact that you can only place 2 sky forge really piss me off, I already created a hell of a machine with calculated input and output, 1/3 of it goes to waste...
it's 0 now since I'm starting from scratch again, i hate my factory
tbh idk
Chat I have 3 efficient hc battery production line 1 for energy supply and 2 for selling should I make another one?
if it's getting full then the protocol depot would also get full eventually lol
it just there to fit something in
I just realised that I deadass have the characters to make a physical and ice teams but im way too insistant on making a pyro team because of surtr
hmmm alright i dont think ill undo my valley base to try this but i might try this in wuling im only starting up on wuling now so ill see how it goes
ty for the advice tho
Buck capsules aren't enough, we need more drugs
her team is basically free though
produce pocket originium
pocket sand? nah pocket cancer
it's oripathy right in your pocket
there is some beginner bp out there
there are beginner blueprints
anyone knows the exact power needed for valley iv for all mining rigs?
but also if you're new i would recommend playing with the factory yourself
before just copy pasting
Youd have to clog up the machine and the belt for it to continuously run and produce faster
second this. you need to understand how it works to use other's bp. bc they also need setting up
1.1k around that
happens
go at your own pace, you don't need to catch up to people
lot of people came from other factory games
max efficiency bp does require all upgrades
nah man no shame in being new to the game
yea same, after i know whats this whats that i use other's blueprints XD
wuh
i had to bumble my way through it too
yall think I can shrink this any further
I do my planting elsewhere
I spent all my time in the factory and I have so many missions piled up lol
three whole nights i would wake up to no power in my PAC
oh my god it's a maze
Place your grinder in front of the other grinder, and same with the others
my only problem rn is my ori yield/usage is -20/min. valley 4 ori is 560/m right?
yeah
oh yes i know what this isssss, oh yes i knoww
the factory must grow
spoilers: ||its a football field ||
technically perfect bomb ratio is 10 amethyst to 1 aketine right?
NO, nooo, LIER
Can someone tell me how to fix this problem. I can't get the dust to make the batteries and the amethyst part for explosives at the same time can only 1 or the other I could just not b looking at it right
with ||football physics ||
why are you using explosive to make battery?
oh wait no i didnt see the splitter
ooh technology, new technology
that what im doing it rn
does jincao work for making carbon?
yeah it has the splitter but I can't figure out how to make both batteries and the explosives at the same time
they give 2 carbon for 1 plant aswell
Has anyone covered the entire map with turrets yet
Hey, for getting power from quarry, do I grab it from the hub aic?
Honestly the best way to assure continuous battery supply
so your ori powder is going back to the PAC?
yes
how many xira comps should i get to be set for a while
how much originium is possible at regional development lvl 9? because im really struggling with how much im using
alr thanks
Are both lacking?
and the splitter is bringing what exactly?
they lowkey need to let us put batteries into the power supply things for those gates
How many dust do you yield per min?
what is the smallest size one can realistically make for a Buck A factory?
510 per min
For the ori ore its probably 560/min
25x30 is smallest known (tileable depot-bus based)
oh im cooked then, i might have to get rid of something
so the explosive use aketine, the battery uses ori dust. 2 different thing
Ori ore is 560 with maxed development level
This neat carbon powder is the reason why Im keeping it
Yea
does that utilize planters? or do people cheat with depot bus plants?
should i get rid of one of my 3 purple battery farms?
and amethyst part will make them output lower
planter included. #1466274275240710245 message
this looks neat
bruh, all my 6 stars are ardelia, so joever
How’s everyone progress?
from the looks of it, it should work, just half yield tho.
the issue is its not lost too XD but eh XD
me when i forget to connect batts after moving pac
but anyway
Does in Wuling Level 2 Outpost unlock new goods to trade in? If it does what are the new goods we can sell? I want to plan ahead with my factory.
backto building my factory
you dont need 2 planters to make carbon, just push another belt out of the first one
Opposite of it all
thats HC battery. i need Buck A
and also the originium is being shared so battery yield will be lower
just the usual syringe and lc u wanna sell
Ngl my mind tuned out on half the story and I just want to maximize my factory
I see
So is level 2 still only this sellable?
Batteries trust
story first or mining resource first hahah
steam said i have 72 hrs. 4/5th is probably staring at AIC
theres 1 more new item or 2 but it doest matter lc and syringe are still the best
I have 1.58 million money in Wuling just from batteries
can u tell me what item it is?
The one that says batteries
no sorry im not home 😆
how ratchet I could make to understand better I suppose
Jincao drink thingy
i get that batteries are the way but still want to minmax it totally
2x batteries over syringe right?
i hav ea 3/min 52x12 but its kidna silly #1464558482866049086 message
Batteries and syringes are the best ones. You only have 60/min xiranite to work with
yeah like overall it should work so i didnt see whats the problem XD
You guys farm Wuling battery/ syringes?
Me manual farming pills more OP than Buck A and Jicao
I do batteries over syringe
70 laevatain and 10 sig btw
i know but i've seen alot of questionable guides so i wanna math everything out myself
if ur EU/NA and on i can give u code
xiranite is the rate determining step so it doesnt rly matter
im asia
#aic-factory message this is what u want for endgame rn max win
gg i cant figure out for the life of me whats the issue with it
Premium cancer for everyone in wuling
haha what the problem again? all i see is low explosive yield and lower battery yield
If only ENDFIELD devs just release the song they used both BETA test and PV my factory vibes will be better 😭😭
It's nice how easy it is to tool a factory from making components to making batteries in Wulling.
90% of the process is the same.
I can't get the dust to go to the correct place without changing somewhere else than i cant make explosives work

hmm
what about this?
What am I looking at here
its honestly not that bad for a single sky forge line
its just really bulky instead of long
hey any recommendations for things i should farm in my aic? i have a massive spot free. im already crafting steel parts, buck a+b capsules, explosives and purple batteries?
it does look small but not very tilable
if you're at buck a and purple then craft them only
you ideally want to make a modular version of it since we're definitely getting more of them in future update
is there a Zipline planner I can look for here ?
this is modular
this is a single 30/m unit
it's not self sufficient, you are drawing from depot and its pretty big
Man I really should finish up my quests lol
I do my planting elsewhere
how do i turn off the item icon on the machines when in 2d mode on mobile
which map?
not a bad point, but theres nothing wrong with placing the planter loop somewhere else
there isn't, its just that you have to include the depot as the size of the blueprint and it makes it huge
is there a collection of it ?
I might want each for every area.
I was shown this cursed image and now you too have to see it
so what do i do when the amount from mineral beds cant keep up?
idk but i could give you mine. not the best but a lot less walking
Someone's doping amber rice with yazhen
my cursed image is dustleaf dust only getting 1 belt, its even factory related ngl
Add more drills, if there is no more beds available for mining then lower the amount of goods you produce or just accept the painfully slow production
good enough for wuling?
What kinda monster are you 
if ppl are doign 2x wuling batteries over syringes do you just do hc batteries with the leftover ferrium and power the factory with that
Angelica 
wait but im at 200 cap
why over, xiranite batteries dont use ferrum bt syringes do
Ok so that is not Min-Maxed! Buck Capsul C sells for 10 x 24 p/Min = 240; Bottle does sell for 2 but u make 120 p/Min = 240
Difference is that producitng amethist bottle setup cost only 140 power while capsul C costs 260 power.
Does it matter? Maybe? i don't know yet - i'm still mathing stuff out.
because you're limited by the 2x skyforge anyway
so you can run 2x batts and have ferrium leftover no?
and do something like what i said
Its too big for a Sub PAC lmaooooo
whatever you say broski 😆
or am i tripping
how do you have enough xiranite for 12 batts? you don't make xiranite comp anymore?
just take the L 😛 i've seen far worse stuff out there ppl claiming to have the best setup. Yours is good but not the best you can do. Probably could cost u one battery less 😛
you'll need a lot for artficing
im not a math guy, but if my assumptionis correct, yhen theres no point in making more if the outpost cant buy it all
it is correct
im not tryna argue but for me its maxed, i have more than enough to buy out everything + battery could be cause of ziplines
thats fair, havent really reached that point yet
want to max outpost first ig
ill keep it in mind tho ty
I really didn't like AIC at the start of this game, but I didn't give up and worked at it and watched some guides, and how it's maybe my favorite part of the game.
If any of you are struggling with it, don't give up. It's really rewarding to create your own works. They don't have to be super optimized or massive feats of industry. Do what you can with what you've got, and you'll feel rewarded in the accomplishment.
next you buy factorio and then satisfactory
show me yours tho
the tutorials are worse then factorio
this is not ok. why is there a limit?
once in wuling what should I built to power my stuff?
true. and i did all simulation right before they update 
The overtutorialization of the AIC makes it seem much more complex than it actually is
looks at name
looks back at other name
looks at name
LC batts
tutorial impact 3rd
overuse of belt bridge i bet
Is level 70 set end game?
im at explore lv5 region lv11, is there any reason why im 520min originium?
Yea its a thing, u can reduce by removing bridges/relays around the map