aic-factory

[rough breach]

pylon relaying or mining III

[worn vapor]

Once you start artificing that 1000 will disappear instantly

[thorn garnet]

wuling has not much ferrium, and making one of the potions for trading already makes you net negative with the exisitng mines there, so ferrium can supplement the starved production haha

end of the day, 2 xiranite productions, 2 wuling battery, and 1 of the potions is what i think most people do in wuling

unless you wanna play SHip-depot-transfer game

thats too much micro

[worn vapor]

I have a xiranite component line as well grafted onto one of my batteries, it slows down the batteries to like 8/min and generates 2/min components iirc if I have it all running at once

[unique osprey]

If you only have 1 battery it caps at 6/m i believe

[worn vapor]

Actually let me go check to be sure

[thorn garnet]

ah yeah, if you making componets you wont produce much batteries, but you can "force" it if you dont want to trade batteries... , just dont send the excess into your stockpile

it will auto stop, and the xiranite will focus on your components, if you just want batteries to keep the factory churning

[worn vapor]

bc now that I think about it I think I got it up to 9/min

[snow crown]

is the only difference between na and asia servers that blueprints dont sync or are there material amount differences between the two?

[halcyon radish]

blueprints

[thorn garnet]

rich man's game, 😛 lol

[unique osprey]

If you can i wanna replicate cause im making 12 with 2 lines atm would much rather the one and stockpiling components

[worn vapor]

ok, I turned it on, now we wait a minute

[vapid fog]

should i turn off xiranite component? i have 18k

[thorn garnet]

@vapid fog if you ain't gonna be playing the smashing gold gears together game, you hav emore than enough for now... 😛 just turn it off for later hahaha

[vapid fog]

i will be after i finishing etching

[humble loom]

why am i getting clogged by sandleaf if i have enough?

[worn vapor]

is your depot full

[humble loom]

no its like very empty on sandleaf

[worn vapor]

ahh I see

[unique osprey]

The only answer is wether or not you need batteries and/or full depot

[humble loom]

i have so many planters bruh

[worn vapor]

idk then

[humble loom]

half my aic is sandleaf

and im still running out

[vapid fog]

40% full, ill be full in ~3 days

[spice pier]

chat whats even the use of amethyst aside from making bombs?

[rough breach]

any idea for this

[halcyon radish]

depot units

[unique osprey]

You need amethyst parts for depot loaders/unloaders and also ziplines and a lot of factory units

[worn vapor]

Its at 8 batteries/2 components per minute atm but I know I had it running at 9 per minute the other day, give me a few minutes to figure it out

[vapid fog]

mining 3 lol

[errant lichen]

[humble loom]

is there something wrong with my battery setup?

[errant lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-anime-gif-11253462

[novel herald]

@nova ledge u asia? Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01521eEE0aouaIeIoe. Copy it and use it in the game.

[halcyon radish]

seems like a sandleaf defficency top left

[nova ledge]

Yes I am, oh my god your the best

[worn vapor]

looks fine, I think

[novel herald]

this for 1 wuling batt, u can mirror it to the other side tbh

[humble loom]

but im producing enough?????

[worn vapor]

probably just needs more sandleaf yeah

[unique osprey]

Thats an odd ratio 😳

[humble loom]

i dont understand

i have 14 sandleaf planters

[thorn garnet]

your sandleaf isn't coming out fast enough, you need more farms

[humble loom]

is that not enough?

[halcyon radish]

rare to see a shredding unit asleep

[nova ledge]

Noted

[thorn garnet]

show your sandleaf pciture, somethings wrong

[worn vapor]

14 should be more than enough I think

[halcyon radish]

check your theoretical data

[thorn garnet]

@humble loom show us your plant setup

[worn vapor]

I don't think I have that many and mine run fine

[novel herald]

lemme kno how compact it is according to ur taste XD

[thorn garnet]

14 setup, even i dont run 14x3 setup 😮

[humble loom]

this but a lot more of them

[thorn garnet]

your seed generator is very... sleepy?

[halcyon radish]

show. theoretical. data

[novel herald]

put more sandleaf into the seed pickingunit

[novel herald]

this is a good line, imma use it someday

[tropic lodge]

Question! is the flow rate of water in a pipe the same with belts?

[spice pier]

yeah but those are crafting thing not something you need to dedicate a automation line for.. what im asking now that i have access to ferrium should i just tear down my previous amethyst bottles and parts line

[halcyon radish]

wait lol wtf what's the issue then

no yeah your stock is still 0

for now make another sandleaf loop

and eventually you can take it out

[thorn garnet]

refill those two units manually and see if the factorys go into full gear again o-o

[worn vapor]

thats so odd, I only have 11 fueling my 3 battery farms

[humble loom]

mine is fueling 2

[humble loom]

that ss i sent was 2 of them btw so imagine 7x more

[unique osprey]

If you have enough bombs yeah just make sure to keep a stockpile of amethyst parts and not sell them cause its pretty annoying having to handmake more

[worn vapor]

my 11 are fueling 3 and also a steel parts farm that I have going

I have no idea whats up with yours

[halcyon radish]

this is the issue

[worn vapor]

thats so strange

[thorn garnet]

my farms are a little weird looking, but they should be stuck at full, if you did it right o-o

[halcyon radish]

you have no actual stock so everything is being used up

it's not an issue of how many farms you have it's that you have no starting stock

[thorn garnet]

no stock, and his farms are "zzz"

need to manually jumpstart the production

[halcyon radish]

his farms are sleeping exactly because he has no stock

[nova ledge]

It’s missing some parts what do I put there?

[novel herald]

hmm?

[humble loom]

the issue was i only put 1 sandleaf in to start them

[broken token]

When should I start trading my Buck As to the outposts? When they're at 10k+?

[humble loom]

bc i had none reserved to put more

[humble loom]

i wasnt balling in sandleaf

[novel herald]

oh insert sandleaf to this seed picking unit

[thorn garnet]

you shoulda built just the infinite loop to generate stock first

[spice pier]

how do you get the second depot node?

[humble loom]

play the game

[halcyon radish]

explore

[novel herald]

wait lemme check the bp again

[rough breach]

for early game what hubwhat kind of automation i should do first, i have green battery running now

[spice pier]

which region?

[novel herald]

wait this is not the bp

[thorn garnet]

just to ruin some of yall factory owners who haven't discovered this formula yet...

[rough breach]

i am thinking to do buck capsule

[halcyon radish]

any

[nova ledge]

Oh its my fault

It works properly now thank you again

[novel herald]

Arknights: Endfield Blueprint Sharing Code: EFO01194o00O5iU2634O7. Copy it and use it in the game.

[unique osprey]

I would yeah buck capsule for heals and money good start

[novel herald]

i forgot the belt line at the side was not highlighted

[vapid fog]

what level are you?

[rough breach]

20

[novel herald]

u can use this one or just add the belt line manually

this one

[unique osprey]

One long boy

[spice pier]

how do you unlock it bro are you really saying just me exploring lets say the originium Science park will unlock it??

[novel herald]

yes

[unique osprey]

Theres a couple sub bases youll find them I promise

[humble loom]

guys should i rework my base? its kinda cooked

[novel herald]

yes

[spice pier]

i already have the one in originium Science park

[devout heron]

i got the "cannot placedue to regional placement limits of certain facilities" how do i kno what im capping at

[halcyon radish]

okay explore the rest of the map

[humble loom]

ima lock in this time

[halcyon radish]

there's more areas than just osp

[novel herald]

here

[thorn garnet]

you doing xiranite?

[novel herald]

what are you trying to put?

[devout heron]

uh huh tryna place two of the 60/min

[halcyon radish]

man what are you on about

he talking about depot nodes

[worn vapor]

@unique osprey anyway idr how I got it to be at 9 batteries/min instead of 8/min but here is the absolute creature I stuck to the side of one of my battery lines so that I can still make some xiranite components while having as many batteries going as I can. It may be horribly inefficient and making too much sand leaf powder compared to what it uses etc etc but its mine nonetheless.

[thorn garnet]

you can place 1 forge, and a SECOND one if you get the upgrade in the tree for the tech, otherwise 2 max

[novel herald]

yea we need to unlock the depot nodes from that menu right?

[rough breach]

oh well i need to find tons of amethyst first

[spice pier]

not depot bus i want depot nodes

[novel herald]

oh

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[devout heron]

err what do you mean sorry

[halcyon radish]

one depot node in osp

one in lodespring

[unique osprey]

Im glad im just afk zoning out in this chat and scrolling my aic report bc wtf my buck capsules doing rn

[halcyon radish]

one in some other place i forgot

[halcyon radish]

one in wuling

[novel herald]

here's ur 2nd one

[halcyon radish]

go look bruh

[novel herald]

this is in origin lodespring

[thorn garnet]

this tech lets you place a 2nd forge down, thats all you can put

[spice pier]

nvm found it the answer was here in power platue

[devout heron]

platue has the third depot

[novel herald]

there's one in origin lodespring aswell

[devout heron]

i have that unlocked

[novel herald]

that means u can put down 2 forge unit

[thorn garnet]

then you can only have 2 at most,

[novel herald]

make sure u don't have that installed in other PAC

[thorn garnet]

you already ahve 2?

[unique osprey]

LMFAO I LOVE THIS

[solid imp]

Yeah it's 2 total not 2 per AIC

[thorn garnet]

2 per aic ... i wish lol

[devout heron]

oh.. that 60/min uses both two

[unique osprey]

Yeah 30/m otherwise

[solid imp]

Nice name and server tag

[devout heron]

you love to see it

[worn vapor]

its so scuffed also I just realised something I could do to make the component part run a bit more efficiently when I just want to have one battery and the components going

[solid imp]

So who are the premiere endfield yuri ships

Chen X Tangtang

[obtuse nacelle]

I like Fendmin x Laev

[thorn garnet]

we calling female endmin fendmin not pengmin? xD

[zealous orchid]

looks like you got an input bottleneck

[solid imp]

No penguin will ever be as cool as Emperor

[devout heron]

perlica and pengmin like it simple

[solid imp]

true

[unique osprey]

Yeah i didnt put much thought into this one is someone elses blueprint i believe, 1:1 bottle to powder instead of 2:2

[solid imp]

I wonder who will be the Endfield version of Texas with her entire yuri harem

[obtuse nacelle]

Mi Fu x Tangtang :3

[solid imp]

The important thing we all agree on is tangtang gay af

And so is chen tbh just like her grandma

[halcyon radish]

are they grandma granddaughter or reconvener

[solid imp]

I'm pretty sure Chen is just a descendant of Ch'en since Ch'en didn't have oripathy

[halcyon radish]

i mean chen is a surname so being related makes sense

[rare cobalt]

back down to using 2 batteries a min, we're moving up in the world

[thorn garnet]

all this shipping talking, and i just want a TATA returns arc line :>

[solid imp]

Tata x chen

[novel herald]

keep coping

[unique osprey]

Its coming or i RIOT

[thorn garnet]

RIOT!

[unique osprey]

Just like if anything happens to Rossi im abandoning all my hope for the game—

[halcyon radish]

the chen name went from badass to paimon substitute what a downfall

[rare cobalt]

oh my god i could kiss you, thank you for letting me know im not the only one who see's the beauty in these two

[obtuse nacelle]

Fendmin x Zhuang

[thorn garnet]

Fendmin x Yvonne

[unique osprey]

I think thats all but cannon atp

[solid imp]

I'm only like 30 minutes into wuling so i haven't even met mi fu yet

Endmin being the harem protag is a copout I'm here for the operators lol

[rare cobalt]

she could read me a bedtime story

this channel got out of topic so quick lmfao

[solid imp]

Automating 18 yuri/minute

[thorn garnet]

shhh don't summon a mod

https://tenor.com/view/chen-endfield-arknights-qianyu-silly-gif-2603914693282121266

[brave vapor]

if only a mod would do something about this

[rare cobalt]

its not that deep you'll be alright

[brave vapor]

(they don't aparently)

[sleek hedge]

is the ferrium ore in wuling only 90 yield per min?

[solid imp]

Yeah

[worn vapor]

why would they do anything, its not like its enough to disrupt the chat from its purpose

[glossy nymph]

'Wulling'

Originium---> 360 max yield.
Ferrium---> 90 max yield.

[errant lichen]

new issue producing more than enough carbon but can't make it one line with factory of sky

[vapid granite]

Chat did i do it

[worn vapor]

no

6/min

[rare cobalt]

yeah ive got every node and and 1200 transfer of it and this is as good as it gets

[vapid granite]

tf

[thorn garnet]

we dont even have all the wuling chapters, so its gonna be pretty beginner level factory there =X

[modest seal]

So should I advance my story after I max my storage um like half way done

[vapid granite]

Yes further you go more outpost you unlock and you get 5-star gear second region

[gray glade]

this is my bp for buckA does anyone know why its underperforming? its only outputting 3bucka/m i dont think im undersupllying anything

[rough breach]

does mining III increase the speed of extraction

[brave vapor]

if you rely on the ferrium from valley, you only get 12/min, at most 25, not even a belt full

[worn vapor]

is the final input 2:2?

[gray glade]

input to the filling machine?

yes

[modest seal]

OK but should I max my battery's first

[worn vapor]

is the flow of materials steady?

[vapid granite]

I did yes

[gray glade]

yeah material is always full

[crimson inlet]

FARMERS, ENJOY, FOR I HAVE FOUND BURDO-MUCK FERTILIZER

[worn vapor]

are you getting 6/min from one filling machine?

[gray glade]

is it because of the long belts? taking long time to reach

[halcyon radish]

check for z's

[modest seal]

Tys now to build a batter farm

[worn vapor]

long belts shouldn't matter

[obtuse nacelle]

she ships Chen and Perlica

[rare cobalt]

i dont rely on the ferrium from the valley, its just required for my factories, i produce what i need just fine regardless

[worn vapor]

as long as there is a steady flow of materials

[modest seal]

Should I do purple first or blue

[solid imp]

Iirc grinder making blue cubes is 1:1 with refineries turning them into steel, not 2:1, you need to double your ferrum input and grinding

At the very least I'm 100% certain it takes 8 belts of raw ferrum ore for 6/m buck A, not 4 belts

[worn vapor]

oh yeah Aerin is right

[marble yarrow]

u are effectively giving the molding unit 1 unit of steel for a bottle so production of it is halved

[gray glade]

ah no wonder

[worn vapor]

you aren't making enough bottles

[gray glade]

i thought it was enough

[steel rune]

how to fast leveling the regional level? like i already place rig in all region but it still in lvl 8

[gray glade]

i guess wrong calc

thank you

[solid imp]

Yeah it's funny but buck [a] is extremely ferrum hungry

[unborn jackal]

Valley IV Max output is still supposed to be 18/18 Buck [A] and HC battery? I feel like I messe dup

[obtuse nacelle]

max out outposts

[halcyon radish]

how is everything red

wtf

[worn vapor]

you need 2 steel going into the moulding units to make bottles at the right pace

[solid imp]

It is yes, but you need to get regional development to level 11 for all the raw ore input

[rare cobalt]

you're fine if you've just started it

[unborn jackal]

That's like the one thing I have done my guy

[halcyon radish]

smth like this

[unborn jackal]

I put this up last night 🙁

[vapid granite]

Why everything gold

[steel rune]

any other thing that i can do?
my outpost lvl is low because i just build my factory and i think it not good enough

[brave vapor]

this also makes your ferrium usage exactly 1080

[halcyon radish]

you're max yield

for ferrium

[solid imp]

You have not covered every mine, not by a long shot

[halcyon radish]

which means your blueprints are just cooked

[vapid fog]

you dont have the machines yet, click on it

[rare cobalt]

oof yeah might need to double check

[brave vapor]

the tutorial tells you that this means your missing machines to place down

[halcyon radish]

nono his ferrium is 1080

[fast solstice]

Does anyone know what these are called and when I unlock them?

[obtuse nacelle]

depot nodes and stock redist terminals

[brave vapor]

depot

[solid imp]

Oh your right i read the wrong thing

[worn vapor]

this doesn't matter a whole lot tbf unless you need to make some steel parts or something, you can still transfer ferrium to Wuling once you get metatransfer since it doesn't actually use any ferrium to transfer it.

[solid imp]

Depot bus

[limpid shale]

trying to burn 48k ferrium ore

[halcyon radish]

my guess is that he's not making it from scratch

[steel rune]

okay thanks for the information

[rare cobalt]

depot bus, if its the valley ones they're obtained from upgrading your area at the robot owl

[halcyon radish]

he's fragmenting his blueprint which is why his middle components are all red

[unborn jackal]

I'll reorder @solid imp @halcyon radish @brave vapor

[halcyon radish]

100% a blueprint issue

[solid imp]

Yeah i misread earlier
You probably just aren't unloading enough ferrum

[steel rune]

And it is good to change the rig from the standard one to the MK II or something?
a lot of my mining site is still use the standard one

[halcyon radish]

originium as well

[brave vapor]

no

[rare cobalt]

shit wrong one

[halcyon radish]

no diff

[rare cobalt]

hold on

[glossy nymph]

Ok click on it

[unborn jackal]

Well I probably have somethi8ng excess out there but damn

[brave vapor]

you only use mk2 for ferrium

[glossy nymph]

It should show you what things you need to complete the blueprint

[solid imp]

For 6 buck A/minute you need 8 depot unloaders just for ferrum, so for 18 buck [a] per minute that's 24 unloaders (ergo 24 belts) just for ferrum ore

The fact belts are limited to 30/m is a bit painful lol

[halcyon radish]

no 18/18 is no excess

[glossy nymph]

NOM NOM (⁠ ⁠╹⁠▽⁠╹⁠ ⁠)

[halcyon radish]

you have way too little ferrium output

[rare cobalt]

https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1466125655941976135

[solid imp]

I want my factorio green belts lol
3600 per minute

[glossy nymph]

Btw we finally know if there will be oil in the future or not

[brave vapor]

i prefer forcing players using more belts over 1 belt being fast enough that they actually do sushi belts

[unborn jackal]

word ty, I will give this a shot

[thorn garnet]

ib4 3rd world uses drones instead of belts 😄

[solid imp]

Yeah but in factorio the scale is so much higher that you'll still see multiple belts just for a single item anyway

Like a starter base in factorio might have 4 belts of iron plates alone

[vapid granite]

So im using 1 Xiranite to create two Wuling battery factories while also using those same batteries as a power supply

Will this last

[brave vapor]

that doesnt stop people from doing it cause they're lazy, it is a term for a reason

[solid imp]

I like sushi belts tho

[glossy nymph]

@solid imp Chop chop

[solid imp]

I don't genuinely think Endfield needs 3600/m belts cuz that would be silly since that would be enough to put literally everything on the same belt lol

[solid imp]

Bruh i don't even have my AIC in wuling yet

[brave vapor]

im not saying it doesnt have its place, but its common to see them on newer players cause they dont value flow rate, like how you see alot of people using 1 belt to pull out sandleaf dust(so much so that i'm conditioned to see it when its not there)

[solid imp]

Well that's just people not knowing what they're doing

[vapid granite]

Are you saying it wont work

[solid imp]

A sandleaf shredder can output 3 belts of sandleaf powder

[glossy nymph]

1 sandleaf= 3 sandleaf powder.

[brave vapor]

at the end of the day, yes it is annoying that we need another belt for the same material just because the belts are agnoizingly slow

[brave vapor]

well, if you do it, it still works i guess

[worn vapor]

i'd prefer if they kept belts slow rather than making them faster tbh

[solid imp]

I don't think it's a super big negative, if anything it's certainly easier to talk about "belts" of material when there's only one bent speed

[solid imp]

Also the ratios are all very nicely like 30/m or 60/m or 90/m so the 30/m belts are fine for keeping things simple

[vapid granite]

Ah yeah you know what i totally forgot about this

I could probably crunch my factory size and save power if i utilize this into 3 other factories honestly

[solid imp]

(Except for a lot of finished products being 6/m)

[brave vapor]

this is mostly because endfield has a different balancing goal than factorio

[worn vapor]

I don't think making them faster would particularly add anything and if anything I think it would make things even more simple than they already are and people complain about that enough as is.

[glossy nymph]

Yep

[hard kayak]

Thankfully there isnt the belt that jumps over buildings

[glossy nymph]

Fr

[hard kayak]

Aka tunnels or bridges whatever game you played

[brave vapor]

theres more gacha players complain that they have to interact with the factory at all then people hoping the factory is more fleshed out as a game

[strong quiver]

or prob they wanna keep the factory tickrate low

[solid imp]

Endfield is about maximizing production in your limited space with limited input resources yeah
As a necessity as a live service game to keep the factorio nerds like me from blitzing through progression by making a mega factory lol

[strong quiver]

otherwise server gonan be a probkem

[worn vapor]

I think you can flesh out the factory more without touching belt speed though

[normal prawn]

because of infinite plant loop, i gathered 4m in total lmao

[worn vapor]

having to actually thing about output is nice instead of shoving everything onto a single belt because it moves at mach 10

[solid imp]

Ya that's basically mandatory to get lol

[brave vapor]

imagine instead of collicting skill points for the factory, you unlock them through making a certain amount of items via the factory

that was in the beta, before hg removed it in favor of what we got

[worn vapor]

I don't think that really adds anything

[hard kayak]

Exploring for the skill points are good, increases unity of world exploration with factory

(For a bit until you collect it all)

[brave vapor]

it helps guide players natrually towards what they need to do, instead of unlocking the grinding unit and gets confused as to why i cant use it because the recipe uses a plant i dont have

[gusty lion]

Im just waiting for wuling aic2 i need more turrets

[worn vapor]

that is one benefit yeah

[hard kayak]

One more permanent tower defense simulator plz

[worn vapor]

I would like some expansion on the tower defense stuff yeah

[jaunty epoch]

yeah when they release more outposts and it should stay like that tbh

[hard kayak]

It is a side hustle after all

[tepid wigeon]

Doing big memes

[thorny galleon]

Gotta get people to leave The Hub somehow!
I would NOT have left it if it didn't mean finding Amethyst lol

[open kestrel]

Btw, do we have to bring pwoer from Wuling main base to other places like the Jiangu Valley? or there's shortcut?

[hard kayak]

The tutorial tactic?!?

[thorny galleon]

Since there's a limit of two active Regions for the AIC, I'm pretty sure they want way more Regions in the future 😛
More tower defense and whatnot

[worn vapor]

no, thermal banks power the entire region

[thorny galleon]

I think he's talking about Relays

[worn vapor]

oh

[open kestrel]

Yes

[worn vapor]

no

you can just have them branch out from the base in the stockade

[exotic void]

How do I do region resource transfer?

[tepid wigeon]

I was messing with some stuff so that's why the waves are there but lel (also hate how my xiranite usage alternates between 55 and 65 with a 75%/25% split)

[open kestrel]

can you show me your wuling map please?

[brave vapor]

similar to what i said before, there were more people just ignoring the factory and do something else than people genuenly enjoying the factory so much so that they forgot theres more outside of the hub, also the quarry had originum not amethyst in the beta

[open kestrel]

Or anyone. Just want to see how yall connected wuling all over

[tepid wigeon]

Did you finish Wuling story yet?

[thorny galleon]

You can have it 'read' the usage for a longer period of time.. bottom of the screen? That'll show you a more 'stable' yield/usage

[vapid fog]

i wonder if this is enough zipline

[vapid granite]

Writing a note for myself so I remember what my plan is tomorrow

[thorny galleon]

How do you get so many ziplines?! You have to manually craft those, yeah??

[open kestrel]

Means? I unlocked Wuling Bases, city and stuff, so i was thinkin about connecting mines i found to start stocking resources

[thorny galleon]

We can write notes somewhere?

[open kestrel]

Yeah, but it's fun xD

[tepid wigeon]

As in complete all current MSQ

[vapid fog]

i mean you can make 50+ at a time, it's just a few clicks

[gusty lion]

3 regions sounds juggleable even with only 2 active at once

[open kestrel]

no i think, i still have o

[thorny galleon]

"Few"

[open kestrel]

I am at Enter Xirate Central Laboratory quest

[brave vapor]

hold the arrow to bulk craft, theres no ctrl+ hold so you have to wait until it reaches 40 before it switches over to triple digits

[thorny galleon]

I hope they change from allowing us to select the 2 regions versus what they have in the tooltip instead

[trim star]

eh

empty space farming

[tepid wigeon]

If I wanted to make more

[thorny galleon]

wha

[tepid wigeon]

if you hold down on + it eventually goes from 10 to 100 to 500 per increment

[errant lichen]

this is my current setup my carbon setup still isn't enough to produce the amount that I need

[brave vapor]

yes, theres alot of empty spaces so as to not make the 18/18 output hard to reach per say

[trim star]

most of my bases are just empty space

[civic yacht]

Not enough why don’t u have 80000

[trim star]

and idk how people are genuinely filling all of it up

[brave vapor]

i tried my own factory line and theres roughly2/3rd of it all of empty spaces

[vapid fog]

does the game even allow you to place that many?

[brave vapor]

imagine how empty it is for people that just copies a meta blueprint

[solid imp]

If you're asking how you get that many cryston parts, the answer is "automate them"

[trim star]

no

[civic yacht]

Maybe not on the map, but imagine how lonely 1k of them r in ur local depot

[thorny galleon]

Nah, I know automation. Just.. the number of ziplines. Yeesh

[solid imp]

I mean making 2000 zipline towers is silly since i think the max you can even place across all maps is like 200 but still

[trim star]

i mean i only have like

20k ziplines rn

[errant lichen]

FIXED FINALLY

[civic yacht]

Better pump them numbers up bro

[normal prawn]

that's enough even if they add 3 region and you still have spare lol

[brave vapor]

i bought the whole aic, and the limit to ziplines in them, are not 200

[trim star]

trying to get to 120k ziplines

[solid imp]

This is me in factorio when i forget to limit my chests and come back to 2000 oil refineries

[median nest]

anyone have a good build for AIC ?

[errant lichen]

stuff was getting stuck because everything was getting clogged in the belts

[grim anvil]

I'm kinda learning Xyranite from scratch is it ok if I build HC Batteries here for the moment?

[trim star]

yep

[vapid fog]

it is really just a few clicks

[trim star]

well dont build hc batteries

[vapid fog]

just take like 2k HC from v4 and throw in depot

[trim star]

bring hc batteries over from v4

[brave vapor]

the hc bat line is more complex than xiranite bat, theres space so go ahead but china doesnt have much ore for you to do so

[spare briar]

what you guys usually use for wuling blueprint?

[grim anvil]

There's only one battery type accessible for me at the moment for xyranite I don't want to build complex plant just for that at the moment atleast

[brave vapor]

i use the blueprint called i designed this ugly thing myself, brick by brick

[marble yarrow]

you can hold button for construction quantity so it counts in increments of +10

[brave vapor]

if you still want to use hc bat just because you want to trade them instead, your prob better off metastoraging it from valley over

[vapid fog]

nice, even less clicks

[vapid granite]

Guys how many Ferrium outputs are you guys using? I have about 3 before my Ferrium production goes static not increase/decrease

[brave vapor]

not sure how stable that would be, or if its even possible, i just keep the 2 self sufficient

[sand plinth]

does the metastorage transfer happen automatically every hour or do i have to do it manually every time?

[brave vapor]

auto

[brave vapor]

the highest possible is 1080/min

[marble yarrow]

what region

[thorny galleon]

You can check the AIC Report (open menu/ESC, bottom-center of screen) to check the exact Yield/Usage numbers for each item. Specifically for ore, you can pay attention to the Theoretical Yield

[vapid granite]

Wuling

[thorny galleon]

..Is the AIC Report specific to each region, or is it overall? Haven't reached Wuling yet

[brave vapor]

specific to a region

since he didnt specify where, i just default to valley

[marble yarrow]

yeah it would only be 90/min but we can use regional transfer/metastorage for max +25/min. so you could actually use 4 outputs and sometimes manually transfer more ferrium from valley 4 for that remaining 5/min for a total of 120/min usage

[thorny galleon]

Valley is a good default; most players may get 'stuck' there doing missions and factory lol

[vapid granite]

I dont even understand this thing, what is theoretical data? Is that like what it expects to be in the future?

[shut jetty]

Anyone knows what's the defense node for?

[vapid granite]

Where is this at?

[brave vapor]

theoretical is the game estimating if all your machine is running non stop, actual is what is being used realistically

[marble yarrow]

thats the expected output of your facilities. if your theoretical yield doesnt match current yield, it means its clogged somewhere or input is throttled

[humble loom]

rn in valley IV im making buck capsule a+b, steel parts, explosives and purple batteries, is there anything else i should make? i already got purple gear

[thorny galleon]

Theoretical is the summed up maximum in/out of each item. Think of it like "There's 3 rigs mining ore, so there should be 3*x amount of ore every minute!"
Actual is what the game ends up recording. If you, say, reached the max, your actual could be 0/min because you aren't able to get any more

[brave vapor]

if your sandleaf dust is exactly 3x bigger than actual, thats a sign

[scenic comet]

the ultimate factory endgame, connecting all the ziplines to the resource nodes for 1 continuous looting

[thorn garnet]

bruh

[thorny galleon]

As for using it to catch clogs: Theoretical assumes the best-case scenario, whereas Actual is.. well, what actually is gained/lost

[vapid granite]

So example of this, what would be the problem

[scenic comet]

one of your planters isn't feeding back into your seeder

[brave vapor]

i actually enjoy touching grass and walking, until i have to be a delivery boy, then i actually setup a zipline to the front gate of the wuling city

[thorny galleon]

Your facilities can use more Buckflower than what you're outputting! It means here that you're stuck at using 60/min, but can use up to 120 if you add more buckflower to your system

[vapid granite]

These are my only to buckberry planters, what would solve this issue

[marble yarrow]

im not spending extra wuling battery for that

[nova osprey]

for wuling you can use max 3 belts

[marble yarrow]

RIP. that carbon is half producing

[scenic comet]

you need 2 planters per seeder otherwiseyou run out of plants to seed, here's an infinite loop example: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461541796977967289/1467316458169176185/B258C46A-256D-4F2A-A96E-CE853A3027B4.png?ex=697ff071&is=697e9ef1&hm=40a2fe3aa302d21220750161c4dd66d1d47b8179be70506601b2aa22817dd561&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1658&height=938 1 planter has an output, the other one loops back into the seeder

[thorny galleon]

A good Planter/Seed-Picker ratio is 2:1. You can feed one seed-picker into two planters, with only one of the planters feeding back into the seed-picker

[slate moat]

Is there anything with these 2 green rabbits???

[brave vapor]

idk, the aic factory never has them spawned inside

[vapid granite]

Ah right i forgot bout that

I realized and fixed that in my Valley IV factory but forgot it in Wuling

[marble yarrow]

if you want carbon for xiranite this is the best plant usage

[vapid granite]

I could probably cut half my factory size with these seeds

[thorny galleon]

With that setup, you can't run out of plants since it'll alternate between which planter the seed is sent to, but it's more efficienct to split the outputs ^^

[vapid granite]

The more i look at this the more i go blind

Ill figure it out im sure-- tomorrow

[brave vapor]

gosling.jpeg

[marble yarrow]

it uses 1 wuling plant for 1 xiranite forge

[vapid granite]

maybe one day ill look at a fully built factory and say "oh yeah i get it"

[grim anvil]

I just realized the new battery gives significantly more power than HC

Lmao

[brave vapor]

your choice if you want to do it, the 60 xiranite limit is there to force you to manage a recourses that is limited

[humble loom]

anyway i can make my buck a cap farm faster? currently im waiting a while for the filling unit to craft the items and they are sitting there nearing max stack

[thorn garnet]

thats a lot of belts

[digital notch]

is the manufacturing process of canned citrome A the same as buck capsule A?

[humble loom]

i thought it might make it faster

[thorn garnet]

@humble loom limited by the production speed, usually its 10 seconds

[nova osprey]

pretty sure you're running at full capacity

[humble loom]

well i copied some bp's and now im tweaking them and changing parts of them

i aint good at ts

[nova osprey]

you forgot to set one of the PAC outputs to steel bottle though

maybe? not sure

nvm idk if you are, those are item control ports

[vapid granite]

So to clarify in my words of understand:
The Buckflower- im making less than im using
The buckflower seed- im making more than im using

?

[humble loom]

hmm, why is it clogging im kinda confused (the filling unit next to the aic

[scenic comet]

that looks correct, it's 2x + 2x per filling unit

[marble yarrow]

the 1/6th sandleaf and 1 sand powder setup lmao

[brave vapor]

yes

[vapid granite]

Learning factory games is as difficult as learning DnD games

[scenic comet]

i make 8.5/min bat, 6/min syringe, 0.75/min components, capped on stocks with tons of power 😛

[humble loom]

my pac port was buckflower powder not ground buckflower powder

[brave vapor]

its really not, esp since this is a gacha game, your not being thrown into the grinder like factorio or GTNH

[hidden elm]

when i build zipline routes where should i want to visit?

[scenic comet]

the recyclers to deliver goods, the rare minerals and rare plants

[hidden elm]

ohhhh

[hidden elm]

what about the depot nodes

[brave vapor]

theres a great video on youtube that is more or less a love letter to both factory games and programmer because both are structurly the same, not realizing that honestly, this is how you manage a buisness in general

[marble yarrow]

yeah im max in wuling also but 6 batt 6 syringe 3 components

[nova osprey]

those too

[craggy furnace]

i just unlocked the blue ore what should i be making

[vapid granite]

i saw factorio and satisfactory

I think its a matter of time before Endfield starts adding layers into the factories too

[nova osprey]

probably the best thing about this game is that the starting location is very simple, makes it much easier for beginners to get into

when we get to new regions, man is it probably going to be far more complex

[vapid granite]

endgame shi

[nova osprey]

100%, wuling is already more complex with the added layer of fluid mechanics

[craggy furnace]

like ?

[brave vapor]

they wont, peolle have already complained enough about the factory being hard(not hard to learn) because they just wanna play genshitn in the beta

[vapid granite]

Kind of makes me wonder if they would add some other unique fluid mechnics

Like lava smeltery and a slammer machine

[radiant flume]

hi i am new to the game. can i ask is there a way to get the items from the portable originium rigs be sent into the DEPOT maybe assign a operator to get them or a conveyer belt?

[hidden elm]

what are these ?

[nova osprey]

they probably will make it more complex, the people who don't like the factory stuff, but stay, will probably just copy the blueprints when the time comes anyways

[brave vapor]

unless the release proves me wrong and all those fresh college student that has a degree in proggramming of some kind out fund the average gacha crowd, id argue the factory will just get simpler as time goes on

[thorn garnet]

factory isn't hard, just people can't do basic raitos lol

[nova osprey]

i wonder if we'll get alloying in a future region

[vapid granite]

I think my QoL change is just to make dailies and weeklies easier to complete

Before Endfield my daily rotation between GI, HSR, ZZZ, Wuwa was 15 minutes but Endfield almost doubles it

[hollow haven]

Do my early game factory stats look basically okay now at least after I get another originium node from next regions? 540/m isn't bad early game no?

[golden burrow]

you'll unlock electric rigs soon, those will send your ore to the depot

[nova osprey]

i mean you could argue we get alloying from grinders but

we'll see

[radiant flume]

thanks for the info but may i ask what level or requirement are they?

[golden burrow]

it's pretty early on, just continue the story

[shrewd knoll]

go pop some car dealership inflatables and learn it

[brave vapor]

gosling.jpeg

[radiant flume]

ah ok

[marble yarrow]

yeah continue exploring/quest while your factory keeps going so you'll unlock more

[nova osprey]

they're a research requirement, if you can do researches you can unlock it

[hollow haven]

is there more Ferrium in later maps as well?

[solid imp]

In like a few hours you unlock new mining drills that need power but teleport ore to the depot automatically, those early mining rigs are just a shitty starter thing

[exotic void]

Maximum xiranite output is 60/min right now?

[brave vapor]

they dont use power, so you can use it as an emergency originum source to power the thermal bank

[golden burrow]

ye

[brave vapor]

yes

[novel herald]

yes

[solid imp]

Yeah if you want to become a slave to ferrying originium to your depot manually every 3 minutes to save the 5 power of the automatic mining drill

Also if you burn originium in the thermal banks you're doing it wrong

[brave vapor]

theres a disturbingly high amount of people bricking their factory and have to restart the entire thing, just saying that this is an option to get it back up

[solid imp]

Oh yeah all the people that keep having blackouts lol, fair

[nova osprey]

you mean losing full power? xD

[solid imp]

(The simple answer is fix your battery production)

[limpid shale]

No need to restart just turn off everything via pylon

[shrewd knoll]

mostly cuz they add more than 4 batteries per lane and keep splitting them

[brisk jetty]

You get that as an upgrade slightly further in

[slate moat]

How do I kick this couple down???

[solid imp]

[nova osprey]

sir this is a wendy's

[brave vapor]

i'm more than willing to argue that they just use more ores than they can make(blueprints) and it very obviously made the battery line really hard to stabilize

[silent karma]

whats a good wuling plant I should be farming currently on yazhen to farm the yazhen C. Do jincao items get unlocked for sale in lvl 2 outpost or should I just be on yazhen

[nova osprey]

jincao gets unlocked level 2, but they are the same price

[crude nebula]

press ⁨space⁩ button behind them, facing the cliff

[golden burrow]

rabbits getting more fun than your anime girl addicted ass

[solid imp]

Yeah the one thing just using blueprints from the simulations doesn't help you with is knowing how many resources you actually have

[sand plinth]

is this good enough for now?

[limpid shale]

To break even 360/360 ore and 60/60 xiranite. It's two wuling batteries.

[silent karma]

so its a buckflower citrome situation where I can all in whiever one I want for profit

[nova osprey]

yeap

[slate moat]

Kick them or slash them?

[hollow haven]

what's the most efficient way to load them evenly?

[brave vapor]

basically, yeah

[nova osprey]

that's fine but you're wasting batteries

[vapid dock]

there's 4 rabbits total and they'll spawn a chest

[silent karma]

no wya we cant make anything else besides two bat lines right

[shrewd knoll]

to store them, then put them into the banks

[silent karma]

surely

[marble yarrow]

yes

[crude nebula]

is there any reason to setup tower in sub-pac ⁨outpost defense⁩ after completing all the mode?

[solid imp]

A splitter going into two more splitters each outputting two belts if you want a balanced design, but you could also manifold it
Also one packaging unit makes enough batteries for four thermal banks

[golden burrow]

none

[hollow haven]

ohhh so I should load into protocal and load from loaders I got it

[nova osprey]

you can delete your towers after you're done all defenses

[brave vapor]

60/min,the belt moves item at 30/min, as long as your battery making is stable to power itself, your good

[limpid shale]

12 originium outlet plus 2 and a half ferrium outlet.

[slate moat]

The other 2 are dating

[nova osprey]

that works perfectly

[shrewd knoll]

there is no reason to remove them either, they have their own protocol capacity and defense capacity

[solid imp]

That's the easiest option

[thorny galleon]

If you aren't storing them in the depot, you'll want four thermal batteries per full-bandwidth factory. That is, if the battery's production speed is 10 seconds and consumption speed is 40 seconds

[golden burrow]

they use power

[solid imp]

Power

[silent karma]

Yeah the originium is all gonna get used up in 2 bat lines, we can probably squeeze in a capsule line

[brave vapor]

quite abit of power, too

[thorny galleon]

And give each thermal bank should get it's own bank-line; you should have enough space for that if you don't figure out splitters

[quartz pecan]

sandleafsandleafsandleafsandleaf

[crude nebula]

but they still consume some batteries, right?

[dapper minnow]

do protocol stashes slow down the item throughput or nah?

[pine musk]

Will i have to relay power from the main AIC to this or is there any nerby power supply unit

[shrewd knoll]

yea but it would only make sense if you are at the edge of the power limit

[solid imp]

No, they just upload to the depot

[thorny galleon]

Not overall. Just adds a 'latency' like having longer belts would

[golden burrow]

if you mean like when passing through them, they don't

[shrewd knoll]

unless you are super micromanaging the power with splitters

[limpid shale]

if you let ferrium build up to 48k you can run it til it burns out

[crude nebula]

pull from science park

[unborn jackal]

ty for this my guy but why does it make Buck Capsule [C] at the end? What am I supposed to do with that?

[solid imp]

Protocol stashes merely existing basically renders the depot loader obsolete

[silent karma]

oh right I need to farm gear

[pine musk]

Is there a sub pac cuz i can't find one

[silent karma]

FUCK

[bronze surge]

is this good for building a factory for the first time? [used up all the space in the valley pass factory]

[brave vapor]

the depot loader is smaller and doesnt use power

[willow beacon]

idk where else to ask this but does bottle type matter for wuling fluids like at all

[crude nebula]

originium science park, the⁨infra⁩ something mission

[golden burrow]

if you've finished the science park story already, look for a green quest

[brave vapor]

it has a niche, like the splitter

[pine musk]

I just defeated triagolos

[solid imp]

Yeah but it uses the much more useful depot space

[golden burrow]

jincao drink / yazhen syringe c recipe asks for a specific type of bottle, other than that no

[golden burrow]

my guy i don't remember which chapter's boss that is

[crude nebula]

same bottle, different water

[golden sapphire]

this should be good piping

[solid imp]

Not enough originium

[brave vapor]

true, but that leads to wether or not your actually starving for depot space

[rough crow]

Whats sand leaf i dont have any yet

[bronze surge]

ik, i just noticed it too, im setting up some miners rn

[solid imp]

3 belts of the originium cube dust for hc batteries, not 2

[grim anvil]

Where do I attach this?

[crude nebula]

unlocked when you reached power plateau

[solid imp]

[golden sapphire]

on the bus port

the square thingy

[solid imp]

🚌

[silent karma]

is this max ore yield rn?

[rough crow]

And so many what it builds?

[silent karma]

im missing an originium vein if do

[brave vapor]

the square hole

[bronze surge]

didnt had the space for it sadly

[slate moat]

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[silent karma]

[grim anvil]

these thingies?

[rough crow]

[crude nebula]

late game item

[rough crow]

Hmm

[crude nebula]

pretty much always use sandleaf

[brave vapor]

sandleaf for xiranite is a bad option, else its mandatory for grinding units so we cant do much there

[golden burrow]

technically it's the grinders that want the sandleaf powder, but every late game item atm wants grinder so

[solid imp]

So much sandleaf

[crude nebula]

they need to add endless mode for outpost defense

[limpid shale]

For wuling yes, I highly recommend good pylon placement to shut down one area depending on your ore supplies, like my gear component area only use one pylon so it's easy to turn it off.

[crude nebula]

too many sandleaf

[silent karma]

Im going to guess there is a originium ore vein SOMEWHERE In here

either that or regional lvl 6 upgrades the ore

im only on 330/min

[crude nebula]

only around 8 rigs there

[golden burrow]

there isn't actually

iirc

[silent karma]

well im missing 30/min

[golden burrow]

you're missing the dark souls cave most likely

[crude nebula]

6 on left, 2 right

[brave vapor]

do enough sidequest and theyll open up, until then you dont know for sure

[silent karma]

I got lost in the forest

I dont wanna go in there

[crude nebula]

you can't unlocked it yet, must complete main story

there's a mission specificly for it tho

you can't run from it

[limpid shale]

sorry

[silent karma]

Yeah its the one mi fu sends u on

[misty field]

finally after hours of optimizing

[silent karma]

wheres the god damn oreeeeee

where are the rocks

[brave vapor]

p sure the main story doesnt dispel the fog in stragglers cove, only the "side quest"

[golden burrow]

do you have the cave directly to the left of the south entrance of the wuling city area

[silent karma]

I found the one in the cave

[golden burrow]

oh then what's your development level

[silent karma]

5

no way 6 upgrades it right

I didnt see it mentioned

[golden burrow]

huh you're missing mines

[crude nebula]

6 upgrade it

[golden burrow]

no

[brave vapor]

this is really good, nice

[unborn jackal]

Wait max amethyst intake is 240? I could have sword I hit all of the mines tho so like

[mortal plinth]

dang...i woke up to a lot of 0's ....what the heck xD

[crude nebula]

upgrade development level

[bronze surge]

is there a sub pac in origin lodespring?

[silent karma]

I have found the issue

[unborn jackal]

of what?

[marble yarrow]

goated 🔥

[opal gorge]

Did we decide on an optimal end-game factory for Valley, after the region has been completely maxed out?

[golden burrow]

we have a setup most ppl use

does that mean it's decided

[brave vapor]

prob not, theres only 3 sub pac and the last one is in the power plant/final valley story

[crude nebula]

you should be able to yield 240 by the end of valley 4

[brave vapor]

i dont remember the name of these places

[limpid shale]

usage = number divide by 30, that's the number of outlet you have
yield is 10 or 20(high quality) per min per ore
however you reached the 80k cap so your yield number is low.

[crude nebula]

that's also the reason

[unborn jackal]

Yeah I'm regional level 11 is there another way to increase yield

[opal gorge]

Which one is it right now? I'm planning to spend some time to rework my AIC setup today, but I can't decide on the blueprints

[crude nebula]

by increasing the development level, so they upgrade the mines

[brave vapor]

basically, theoretical is there for a reason

[golden burrow]

look for "endgame" in #1461542035617091681

[robust rock]

Is 6 a min good?

[unborn jackal]

I think Yield/Usage of blueprint I copied was 240/240 tho so

[crude nebula]

that's probably because he maxed out the development level

[golden burrow]

6/min of what? number of chen bad jokes?

[marble yarrow]

i would actually extract the 1/3 sandleaf out of that hehehe so the shredder outputs exactly 2 powder

[robust rock]

HC batterys purp ones

[golden burrow]

i'm on 18/min rn

[unborn jackal]

Is that development level of region or like of the base itself? And when you say development level is that increased from outpost trading or just expanding area and buses

[brave vapor]

6/min is how much i nut

[robust rock]

Sooo is that good or bad like

[slate moat]

Don't forget to use your sanity booster before expiry!!!

[golden burrow]

18/min is the max, 6/min is ehh...

[brave vapor]

6 should be the default amount for a single packing unit

[thorny galleon]

OH YEAH
Wait, what should I use it on? XP? Credits?

[robust rock]

I’m mid game and can’t find any more originum anywhere so

[slate moat]

Wow you're always here...

[robust rock]

o ok

[crude nebula]

emptied out, wasted on reaching lvl 90 for 1 char

[slate moat]

Should have spent it on essence..

[crude nebula]

it's gamble, level is guarantee

[brave vapor]

if you designed it yourself, i hope its 1 packing unit, elselearn to factory get a diff blueprint maybe

[golden burrow]

unfog the map and plant more miners, also raise your redevelopment level, max originium is 560/min in valley

[drifting bramble]

so did you find it

[crude nebula]

~~ read the tutorial~~

[robust rock]

oooh I have like every origniym with miners I didn’t know redevelopment levels made it faster Tyy

[brave vapor]

the tutorial is garbage even more than factorio, so i cant really fault them for not reading

[golden burrow]

bro if everyone does this our lives would be much easier

[slate moat]

You'll lvl up next patch.. gamble is the way!!!

[robust rock]

I found it rlly useful

[teal cliff]

can anyone help me out I'm starting out my factory in Wuling

[crude nebula]

their habit of skipping tutorial because of "gacha" habit, might be the most reason they smash click ⁨space⁩

[golden burrow]

tbf this is a gacha game, you can't really demand intelligence from the playerbase

[brave vapor]

you dont get it, all we need to do is force 10 more tutorial then once their done just reward them with a 10 roll, so they can shut up about the tutorial being bad and say "gacha games do this all the time so its fine"

[crude nebula]

like respect the dev and QA, they worked hard for the tutorial pop-up, so you didn't miss many mechanism of the game

[limpid shale]

btw, if your luck is bad you need 6k component to max out one armor piece
i spent 4k~ish to max out to just to see but I got lucky on some

[robust rock]

Yes

[golden burrow]

i do feel like the tutorial just gives words words words and tells you to click stuff tho, so you're not really absorbing much info

the aic sim is a bit better ig

[vapid dock]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2017422865759354899

kawa (@trilinterme)

the sequel

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FixupX · Jan 31, 2026, 2:21 AM

[crude nebula]

i think they should adjust the tutorial screen pop-up mechanism. like add a 10-sec timer, but with simple reward maybe 5 oroberyl

[brave vapor]

it was hella funny when i sumarize factorios tutorial on the spot and someone else raised their wip endfield factory spreadsheet as a response to me doing it
no hate to the guy, and the convo was lighthearted

[golden burrow]

it's honestly not a matter of components bc you can get like 20k in a day, it's a problem of the artificing stones

[limpid shale]

xiranite is so important for wuling that they are willing to pay 1 stock bill each

[zenith sandal]

screw building optimized factories, random overlapped belts and absolutely chaotic machine placement, go!

[crude nebula]

well theoritically, they need so many of it, so 1, take it or leave it

imagine next patch you're allowed to put 1 tianshi pillar to your PAC

[limpid shale]

i mean if i leave they have < 3 months left to live

[golden burrow]

what're we even gonna do with that

[crude nebula]

endless outpost defense maybe

[willow beacon]

?

fuck are we gonna do w that, shoot our conveyors?

[golden burrow]

my dude just go play og arknights

[crude nebula]

done it

[golden burrow]

then idk replay factorio for the 50th time i guess

[brave vapor]

spawncamping the bugs until they evolved so much that you cant handle them anymore unless you proggress the game is certainly a way to play factorio

[exotic void]

I've done it again, I ran power all the way to an area before realizing they're putting a sub-PAC there

[teal cliff]

anyone know the best way to start out in wuling I've done my sky forge but I'm lacking in power to start looping for infinite plant

[brave vapor]

honestly, not a bad habit, p bad if you value your time though

[silent karma]

Yeah I had some rigs down

[teal cliff]

unlocked the core AIC and the sub [AC

[limpid shale]

use ferrium/blue ore to power your plant

[exotic void]

Use originium or grab Valley IV batteries while you set up wuling batteries

[limpid shale]

ferrium ore can only support 2 outlets which is perfect for the battery
until you can set up two wuling batteries

[silent karma]

Is the last datalogger in here

[limpid shale]

and it's right to the north

[golden burrow]

uh i don't think you can burn ferrium in the thermal banks

[silent karma]

u cant

only bats and originium

[limpid shale]

well i meant make the battery using ferrium

[silent karma]

cant do that either

I wish u could sometimes

[golden burrow]

time to do the funny man-eating bamboo quest

[limpid shale]

ferrium ore is right in top of core aic area, just a couple steps

[silent karma]

u need liquid xiranite for it btw

kinda annoying

[golden burrow]

my guy the lc batteries have nothing to do with ferrium

[brave vapor]

honestly, the region transfer is basically there for moving some batteries over to let you kickstart xiranite battery, simpler and easier to do than treating it as non existent

or manually move the batteries in your inventory

[silent karma]

neither purple bat for either region needs ferium

just originium and sandleafs

[vapid dock]

my body is a machine that turns redjade ginseng into failed trimmed medal attempts

[remote panther]

bro do you sleep? i feel like ive seen you here all day

[brave vapor]

i just woke up

[remote panther]

ah same that explains it

[silent karma]

my going to wuling experience

[brave vapor]

dont question a man's use of time

[remote panther]

might i ask why?

[brave vapor]

unless you wanna know how much i goon to yvonne until i fell asleep

[silent karma]

powerrrrrrrrr

I dont have a second battery line

rn

I need to farm gear

which takes originium

[weak mural]

protocol stash doesnt have to beinside AIC zone btw maybe

[remote panther]

you have a shit load of originium in wuling

[crude nebula]

farm it on valley 4, you can craft with it from quling

[silent karma]

we have enough to support 6 output lines

[limpid shale]

I'm saying craft valley battery til you can support two wuling batteries.

[crude nebula]

the crafting recipe somehow not limited to local depot

[silent karma]

which is 2 bat lines

or 1 bat line and 3 gear lines

[golden burrow]

this but you can't make belts outside the aic zone

[weak mural]

connect it so it is in the edge

[golden burrow]

start making purples my guy

[silent karma]

transition to purple battery

[brave vapor]

every machine essentially can be placed outside of the aic, they just dont get the luxury of being able to use belts

[silent karma]

purple will always be the best

[limpid shale]

Lc? I'm talking about SC

[remote panther]

i was in the same position i just delete everything then started making purple batteries to feed my power needs then spammed BUCK A

[golden burrow]

ye you can if you wanna (but tbf you have so much space that you don't really need to do this)

[brave vapor]

exept for depot, you can let it have 1 square outside of the aic but it can still import/export items through belts

[hollow haven]

Basically minmaxed early game factory no?

[silent karma]

get ur ferium up mah boy

for that sweet sweet buck A

[brave vapor]

if you trust that your not gonna rub out of originum, aure

[hollow haven]

buck A is after sandleafs which is midgame sooo

[brave vapor]

early game, likely pre sandleaf

[silent karma]

smodge

I forgot what I was doing early game

nothing intelligent thats for sure

[golden burrow]

all valley4 subpac are the same size

[hollow haven]

588/m with like 500 power to spare not bad for early game hm?

[brave vapor]

all of them, if you design them properly

[hollow haven]

I could technically get 646/m if I gave it barely enough power

[silent karma]

U can fit u a full line of purple bat or buck As on any sub aic depot bus

[slate folio]

I have 2 factories for buck a capsules lmfao

[silent karma]

u need 12 output ports, u get 13

[exotic void]

I got a BP that you can shove into the far half of a sub-pac to make three lines of buckpowder if you want it

[silent karma]

abuse the fact that sandleaf shreds to 3

which can be a lil annoying too sometimes

[slate folio]

btw how does nexus works

like how do operators rest

do you have to manually do it

[proven moss]

Bro I swear sanity takes tooooooooooo long to restore

[brave vapor]

they automatically rest

[slate folio]

nice 24/7 slave labor work

[golden burrow]

they go sleep when 0 mood and automatically come back when 100 mood

[silent karma]

You can at max do 3/3 yeah

[remote panther]

all three outpost are about the same size so its one size fits all situation

[brave vapor]

while they are npc, hg isnt silly enough to make them not autonimus to simulate being a human bean

[silent karma]

Find something to spend your amethyst and spare origium on

[exotic void]

They rest when they run out of stamina, they go back to work when fully rested, you can manually get them to rest early, or stop resting early

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[silent karma]

Your ferium is max usage with three purple lines and three buck A

[slate folio]

tbh tho I feel like amethyst becomes useless end game (other than the parts)

[silent karma]

Cuz it is

[brave vapor]

because it is

[golden burrow]

24/7 slave labor only for 1 gold exp thing and 1 purple weapon exp thing per day sadge

[slate folio]

we need more

[remote panther]

dont listen to them make it into batteries and EAT THEM

[brave vapor]

the quarry used to have originum, but got changed to amethyst for some reason

[slate folio]

what about the purple batts

[remote panther]

early game progress

[silent karma]

Go make some amethyst bottles to sell to the valley or smth

[exotic void]

Not quite, you can make buck C for extra stock bills

[worn creek]

My current Factory for the 18/min HC batteries

[golden burrow]

this depends on your other yields actually, if you're already making more stock than the outposts can buy it's not gonna help

[slate folio]

just farm buck capsules-A lmfao

[remote panther]

those are for the factory and the outposts i just like to have a small trickle of the low tier batteries for turrets so i dont have to pull power lines when using them for defence and bc im a on like 4.2k/4.2k on power

[brave vapor]

not bad, hopefully you did it yourself, and you actually output more than 1 sandleaf per shredder

[slate folio]

I sold all my turrets once I was done with that

lmfao

never thought I'd be watching kyo again

[exotic void]

I haven't had a factory optimal enough to check, but I think it's pretty close when you put in operators that give the outpost more bills

[remote panther]

did you do all 4 levels of defence on each?(1 on wuling)

[slate folio]

yes

[golden burrow]

fair

[remote panther]

dam

[worn creek]

I built it on my own, didn't need a blueprint

[slate folio]

with kyo helping me out

[slate folio]

i mean once you get all the turrets in wuling you can just steam roll the entire thing

[brave vapor]

congrats, your better than the average gacha gooner

[worn creek]

countless sleepless hours for the factory...

[remote panther]

i also use turrets on sever avelium thingies

[slate folio]

ah those I might plan on that as well

[golden burrow]

hay gais im newb can you give me blueprint for everythang and teach me how to use it plssss

[worn creek]

I have some Factory building experience mainly Mindustry

[narrow garden]

uh. i might as well just use one moulding machine right since im limited by belt speed even if i split the output

[slate folio]

yes

[brave vapor]

• shows a 1 belt sandleaf dust line for the limbillion time *

[narrow garden]

bruh

so theres no point in splitting output to feed more machines

[golden burrow]

you can use three outputs

[unreal laurel]

how clean can the hc battery setup be

[brave vapor]

your using splitters foe something thats not thermal banks?

[golden burrow]

30x25 clean

[pearl terrace]

Yo what’s the maximum exploration level you can have rn?

[exotic void]

Most of the time, yeah. Belts transfer 1 object every 2 seconds.

[slate folio]

unless your powering thermal banks

[golden burrow]

12 valley4, 6 wuling

[unreal laurel]

how close am i to that

[narrow garden]

i forgot about damn belt speed

[brave vapor]

12,you can tap on the number and scroll

[narrow garden]

my life is ruined

[slate folio]

I made mine with what little space I had for my base

ez 4.6k power

lmfao

[pearl terrace]

I’m asking about exploration level

Not

RDM

🙏 😭

[golden burrow]

oh

uh i'm at 7

[slate folio]

same

[unreal laurel]

hows my setup

[pearl terrace]

Oh alright

[slate folio]

is there an 8

[pearl terrace]

Das what I’m asking

[unreal laurel]

just need to finish the sandleaf input

[slate folio]

I assume there's gonna be one once we reach higher levels

[exotic void]

Does anyone else get softlocked when upgrading the wuling depot bus capacity?

[golden burrow]

uhh i don't know what to say without being cruel

[slate folio]

im at 51 rn

[unreal laurel]

say it

[brave vapor]

ah, i assumed you asked an aic factory related question, its 7

[unreal laurel]

no restraint

just say it

[pearl terrace]

It’s fine

[golden burrow]

your belts are too long, you can use that space for something else, stop being shite and get your act together fool

[unreal laurel]

i didnt say i was done,its a work in progress

[slate folio]

then you have alot of work to do

lmfao

[golden burrow]

you can just look at the 30x25 in #1461542035617091681 for inspiration if you want

[brave vapor]

i did this grinding setup unironically before i learned a trick, still hve a bunch of dead space in valley

so your good

[golden burrow]

different region

[exotic void]

Are you in Asia or EN?

[shut rover]

Peak satisfactory

[brave vapor]

a critical failure is either you use more ores than you make or your inefficient with machines(like too much shreeder)

[dreamy root]

alrighty my sub base is done

[brave vapor]

even then, as long as your battery can keep up with the factory, i guess you can say it works

[unreal laurel]

theres literally the minimal amount of machines at work here

every machine is meant to work at 100% output

[brave vapor]

just laying out general ground rules of wether or not your factory is actually bad or not

they give you tons of space to build however you want really

i alr reached 18/18 output and i still get some space to write slurs with belts( i dont but i can)

[exotic void]

Ah well, here's a screenshot of how I set it up

[meager panther]

Have people been able to get 18/18/24 with no protocol stashes and with 1 outpost free?

[golden burrow]

i don't think you can

like just from output port limits

[glossy nymph]

Keep doing the story

[brave vapor]

no stashes, prob not, outside of that its doable

[exotic void]

I got 18/18 with one outpost free, needed the last one for the 24

[marble yarrow]

aight imma try that one challenge

[golden burrow]

💀

ok then

[meager panther]

I'm pretty close so I was just wondering if I was doing something someone else has done

I think it's possible

[brave vapor]

im even willing to bet its possible with 2 sub pac free, they are really easy on you in space

[meager panther]

no stashes was important to me for 100% power efficiency

[tawny bane]

I'm now a farmer

[marble yarrow]

1 only have like 1 or 2 protocol stash usage

but i think i can improve that

[pearl terrace]

Yo look at #salt-mine-gacha-flex

Lwk

[dreamy root]

ain't that gonna take a lot of space the pathway thing

[worn vapor]

I use them a lot, I just prefer to stash and then have the output elsewhere generally

[final birch]

So I'm noticing that there's a lot of content and tips on the internet saying that players should like optimize their factory and all
But I don't know if I should do that asap or later, since I'm still lvl33.. 😓

[tawny bane]

Until you reach regional level 11 you should just do your own thing

[dreamy root]

is Endfield ya first factory type game?

[shut rover]

It is mine

[exotic void]

You could probably make it more compact, I just wanted to set it up on the non-bus side of a sub-PAC

[gentle vigil]

Can someone explain why someone's factory blueprint I'm using has 720 sandleaf yield but 750 sandleaf usage, but the sandleaf never goes down?

[dreamy root]

[slate moat]

Just reached Wuling, is it long before I unlock essense farming over here?
For Laev's essense.

Just reached Wuling, is it long before I unlock essense farming over here?
For Laev's essense.

[tawny bane]

Because the seed picking unit uses sandleaf also that's why it says 750

but at the same time seed picking unit gives 2 seeds per plant

[exotic void]

Right now, all you need are parts for gear upgrades and explosives for personal use. Don't need a ton, producing them for a few hours will give you more than you ever need. After that, batteries and meds for selling.

[brave vapor]

until you reached the 2nd sub pac for wuling, just take your time

[dreamy root]

good thing Factorio teach me the hard way but Factorio doesn't have cute anime girls in it

[final birch]

Where can you check that?
Iirc I should just be regional lvl 6 but I'm not sure where to confirm that ingame

@dreamy root Yep for the most part..

[cunning fable]

is there a way to choose the side of the farm that the water pipe is on?

[shut rover]

Why the shock

[brave vapor]

gacha...content creators(yuk) are usually rather shallow and only focus on optimizng the fun out of almost everything, save for rolling for the hot anime girl

[dreamy root]

I dunno what reaction I have right now soo

[tawny bane]

Upgrading depot nodes, recycling stations, and rigging mines and many more gives you regional exp

[shut rover]

I see

[final birch]

Ooh I see then noted!

@tawny bane oh nvm I'm only lvl 5 still

[exotic void]

You can run the water pipe around external from the factory space

[tawny bane]

Don't worry take your sweet time and enjoy the game

No one's gonna judge your AIC factory

✅️

[pearl terrace]

I’m eating so good in this game bro

[cunning fable]

just annoying for space conservation

[brave vapor]

i do, if you just copy someone elses blueprint then ask why it isnt working

[pearl terrace]

Jus got adrelia and last right in a single 10 pull

At like 30 pity

[teal cliff]

does anyone have a bp for xiranite and battery too

[tawny bane]

wdym

[drifting bramble]

how do i follow the zipline route that i made

[exotic void]

You could do it like this

[exotic void]

You get a button prompt when going on the zipline

[brave vapor]

i'd judge if someone fits that criteria is what i mean