aic-factory

[ancient zinc]

Exploration lvl 2

[scenic comet]

factory gore right there

[thorny galleon]

Oops, pinged wrong

[civic raft]

typical major duck L

[tribal oak]

the fucking cliff lmao

[thorny galleon]

confused

[civic raft]

bro barely AR 44

[true sequoia]

No luck Dx

[glossy nymph]

Need help locating mineing areas?

[covert gorge]

redoing my HUB now - my ferrium usage is higher than my yield.. where can I find more ferrium mining spots?

[civic raft]

maybe wuling

[civic raft]

💀

[brave vapor]

if your at 1080, your fucked

[civic raft]

check some ferrium spots that haven't unlocked yet where you are already mining

[glossy nymph]

Increase your devolopment lvl to 11

[covert gorge]

Damn... I'm not there yet lmao - well I guess I'll gather the gear I can and continue the story.

[scenic comet]

move the shredder over so you can put 2 lines of the red dust into the input, like this:

[ancient zinc]

Probably too many units keep using Ferr ores back to back

[civic raft]

yeah bud i had a hard time with the boss though so be careful

[remote panther]

seedpicker works just not the planter

[civic raft]

I had to actually wait 2 days to farm equipment and level up characters

[covert gorge]

Exactly why I wanted to focus on the gear. I know the gear is CRUCIAL.

[brave vapor]

i'd actually argue that it's abit difficult to overuse that much ferrium

[mossy yew]

hey question are the only sub pacs in the valley pass the science park and the plateau for valley IV?

[civic raft]

what is that pfp 💀

[scenic comet]

there's 3 outposts, 1 main (4 total)

[ancient zinc]

Imagine 2-3 production line up for buck A and another 2-3 for HC batteries

[covert gorge]

What do you mean 1080?

[ancient zinc]

[glossy nymph]

Max yield of ferrium

[brave vapor]

that's already 2/3rd of your base, which is alot

[remote panther]

lol

[covert gorge]

Ohhhh okay. No, I am nowhere near that amount lmao my yield is like 100/min

[glossy nymph]

I wise i can experience that pov irl some day.

[thorny galleon]

It's hard to tell, but you don't have a proper loop for your buckflower to keep it going infinitely; is your problem a lack of plants going to your shredder?

[amber perch]

Hey guys need help i already unlocked the 3 extra outposts but some items im not able to sell for example i have 8k buck capsules A but i can only sell 600 on my third outpost and is there a way i can fix that, that isnt me manually transfering from one outpost to other ?

[ancient zinc]

[brave vapor]

cant wait for the fact that you copied someones blueprints and realize your nowhere near ready to use it

[glossy nymph]

Yyyeeee....

[remote panther]

you need to level them up to unlock back A for the outposts

[glossy nymph]

My like meture women.

[covert gorge]

lmao well the blueprints I copied are useful for the current setup I have now.

[remote panther]

by lvl 3 they should all have it unlcoked

[civic raft]

they should take major ducks chatting perms away

[amber perch]

I have the first and last outpost at 4 and the second at 2 but the nº2 doesnt have good items to still in bulk

[true sequoia]

That's fine I just want three feeder working and converting into one to the shredder. Those three point for the shredder and storage unit I want always be feeding

[civic raft]

@thorny galleon L

[scenic comet]

here's a super simple infinite planter + shredder:

[thorny galleon]

Why?

[civic raft]

because you just are an L bud

[thorny galleon]

Why?

[scenic comet]

you can only have 1 planter output plants, the other planter just goes right back into the seeder

[civic raft]

major duck isn't cutting it

[glossy nymph]

Wana see that happenes of your face away.

[remote panther]

yeah 2nd outpost needs to be lvl 3 for buck A i suggest stopping one of your battery productions if you are at 18 a min on those and make LC and/or SC batteries(or in the case of buck A just a lower back pill)

[thorny galleon]

Why? I ask again.

[true sequoia]

Yeah I have a infinity one always running lol

[civic raft]

I don't think a gacha player is gonna do anything physical to me 💀

[scenic comet]

^ but this isn't taking from your depot it's taking from the planter

[civic raft]

might as well turn into a femboy

[brave vapor]

this isn't the factorio discord, or even the satisfactory one, it is what it is

[glossy nymph]

,

[ancient zinc]

[civic raft]

you're a femboy?

[true sequoia]

Making the plant is not the issue figured out this movement is hard

[ancient zinc]

He’ll nah

[thorny galleon]

I'm.. still confused?
But going by Wolfrrahh's latest post, I'm now realizing that he's just trolling?

[civic raft]

oh shit I was gonna ask if I can hit

[glossy nymph]

Do you know what this means.

[civic raft]

no

[glossy nymph]

Get in line

[brave vapor]

this means christmas, just a week away

[glossy nymph]

It Means there will be no oil in the game

[civic raft]

mike hawk 😹😹 his name bahahaha “mike hawk” get it guys 😹😹

🙏😭

[civic raft]

I don't get it dawg

[true sequoia]

My original idea is to make like this but it don't work any one have a better one for logistics?

[civic raft]

doing all this just to make 500 credits an hour

[glossy nymph]

Omg bro what are you 5 greader!?

[civic raft]

yeah

[brave vapor]

of course there isnt, they can't handle the beauty of oil cracking and hooking up multiple pipes for all of the output

[civic raft]

im actually a 5th grader

[thorny galleon]

Are those belt bridges?

[glossy nymph]

You don't know what fossil fuel is?

[scenic comet]

here ya go, move your shredder down, get rid of the 2nd planter output, you'll run out of plants with 2 outputs

[civic raft]

I think so

[true sequoia]

I'm just minimizing. I want my space to be Tight Tight Tight

[ancient zinc]

Belt bridge dat in description say controls quantity amount it release

[glossy nymph]

No mf the originium sucked and eat all the oil there was.

[civic raft]

mike hawk needs to imprisoned 💀

[true sequoia]

Nevermind... I'll just move the position of the plant maker lol

[tight ridge]

Do you guys also struggle to use space left from other stuff you build?

[crude magnet]

naur

[glossy nymph]

Also lokey i am surprised no one reacted to this.

[brave vapor]

i can rename oil into sodium hydroxide and make up lore as to why it exist

[civic raft]

dude who are you matching pfps with 💀 goofy ahh pfp

[toxic pelican]

Atleast originium can be used for alot of energy related stuff

[glossy nymph]

Ikr

[civic raft]

bro I just saw your bio that shit low-key corny ngl

[glossy nymph]

But this dude needs oil to make air pollution!

[true sequoia]

Is ok man there love out there even for you and is a game haven't play in a bit

[glossy nymph]

Womp*

[brave vapor]

the rock cancer takes care of the air pollution already, especially when we're the one grinding it up

[civic raft]

I low-key got second hand embarrassment

[scenic comet]

i hope a skilled artist will make a meme of the endmin jsut chowing down on orignium ore

[thorny galleon]

What you should do is use one planter for the self-sustaining plant setup, and feed the other planter into the Shredder. Because of the 1:2 plant-to-power ratio, you can take two separate outputs from the shredder and each line will have a constant flow of powder

[civic raft]

imagine going through your sons phone and seeing that as his bio

[glossy nymph]

Omg you should not fell for anything they say!

[civic raft]

😫

[crude magnet]

bro just say you dont have a gf

[tight ridge]

I made this to make Buck Capsule[B] but it has so much unused space at the bottom left

[brave vapor]

no

[civic raft]

how does dad correlate to gf

💀

[glossy nymph]

Centi not the best time to be stuff

[civic raft]

ngas just love joining conversations

😹

[crude magnet]

https://tenor.com/view/jerry-laughing-gif-3676435433606054883

[ancient zinc]

Local botanists throwing excess grasses

[glossy nymph]

Fahhh

[civic raft]

@crude magnet bro has a twitch im gonna go hate and donate just to bully bro

[static prawn]

What even is goin on in ere

[crude magnet]

thank you 😼

[civic raft]

😹😹

[thorny galleon]

What you can do ti squeeze the space in a little is to use one shredder to make two lines of powder; at 1-plant/2sec, you get 2-powder/2sec; that is, one plant makes twice the power

[true sequoia]

Is working perfectly the issue in the logistics.is working fine the issue is not running into three shredder after adding those belt bridge I don't see to make it work .

[brave vapor]

you actually put down sandleaf, citrome and bluckflower down to the dirt, and it isnt even seed, not only that it is packaged, that shit cant grow

[glossy nymph]

First it was about oil. Then it shifted to hit on @ancient zinc . Then it shifted back to oil. Then pollution then being single in life.

Idk what's going anymore

[static prawn]

Seems legit

[brave vapor]

this is wrong

[true sequoia]

This thing is the only thing that don't work

[ocean oyster]

yall bases look clean meanwhile im struggling with 20 seconds of power outage

[civic raft]

ngas just get 1 girlfriend and think they can rule the world

[brave vapor]

nothing ever happens

[tight ridge]

wait, you're right, and this fills the slot perfectly

[glossy nymph]

I am single mf

😭

[civic raft]

turn into a femboy atp

[ancient zinc]

Remember we came here at Talos with c*ncer ores so we’re are the bad guys not MC

[glossy nymph]

I rather reborn as a cat

[static prawn]

Do yall have a good mid game design for providing power to yer base thats compact

[civic raft]

turn into a catboy

[crude magnet]

you want sc?

[static prawn]

Ya sure

[glossy nymph]

Shhhh don't tell them

[thorny galleon]

Yup! Give me one second

[brave vapor]

the rock cancer generates us money so it was worth it

[crude magnet]

ahh nvm im in asia

[static prawn]

Oh

[glossy nymph]

That's a furry bruh

[ancient zinc]

Story skipper won’t know a thing

[civic raft]

you should change your name to kirkwastaken😹👎

[ancient zinc]

Nuclear reactors for maximum radiation when?

[civic raft]

you could be a cute little femboy/furry/catboy

[restive drift]

Is this optimal?

[glossy nymph]

Chat waait!!!!! We are going off topic super bad.

[civic raft]

this shit so ahh 💀

[thorny galleon]

Oh wait, mid-game.
What resources are you willing to use to make batteries? So far I'm only up to LC/SC batteries (amethyst, ferrium)
(and power need?)

[brave vapor]

gacha players cant handle the bliss of uranium 235 so never sadly

[glossy nymph]

God damm

[civic raft]

dude does not need an extra 10k batteries 💀

[static prawn]

I mean Ive gotten to sandleaf and such jus finished with region 1 and purple gear

[scenic comet]

mans powering the entire game servers right there

[haughty palm]

uh how are you using that much power

am i the only one concerned

[mossy yew]

yeah im making a line straight for the lodespring

[civic raft]

he is John Endfield

[crimson inlet]

Imaigne a bio reactor instead of using wuling batteries

[static prawn]

Ive also gotten to all ferrium deposits

[restive drift]

Idek

[glossy nymph]

@brave vapor i am super scared to talk rn. The chat soo off-topic

[civic raft]

dude why do you have nsfw in your x account 💀

[haughty palm]

are you just using all your wuling batteries for that lol

[tribal oak]

bruh

[restive drift]

No I got like 500in my depot my thermal banks are maxed out

[civic raft]

hahaha this was so funny hahahaha 😹

[brave vapor]

i've seen people posts their fucking rolls in here and almost no mods came in

[tribal oak]

what this man shooting at

[neat prawn]

Does anyone know why im getting sometimes 3/min and 6/min on HC?

[crude magnet]

@static prawn you can copy this if you want

[crimson inlet]

bruh, I'll forgot to remove it

[glossy nymph]

He lostted it.

[haughty palm]

yeah so usually comes down to inputs.

HC might not be getting enough resources in one or both materials

[static prawn]

How many thermal banks does this power

[civic raft]

dude put on some tights and become a femboy for me

[thorny galleon]

For early game, I have this first design (LC batteries, getting up to 860 power, +220 if you divert the fourth battery to a thermal battery)
Second design is what I plan on hooking up to thermal batteries when I'm ready (SC batteries, up to four thermal batteries for 4*420= +1680 power)

[tribal oak]

fr

[brave vapor]

your running out of ores probably, else dont worry about it

[civic raft]

this is so bad ducky

so much wasted space

[neat prawn]

I just copied hc battery 6/m 3 times maybe that why lol?

[crude magnet]

that depends on how many u want to power up, but each sc gives 420 if i remember correctly

[haughty palm]

show me the setup top down

[thorny galleon]

Meant to show this part only:

[glossy nymph]

Well it's being a active server soo maybe that's why.

[civic raft]

yeah that's not cutting it pal

[brave vapor]

this is so good ducky, such efficient space usage

[static prawn]

Ah I guess I alr got sandleaf and ferrium would I jus do the same but replace it with ferrium ere?

[potent gull]

Oh boy, I finished the story! I get to use wuling to my heart's desire <3

[civic raft]

why is bro lying to him

ducky is not a good factory worker

[haughty palm]

yeah so the problem is the dense originium cubes

[tribal oak]

lmao

[haughty palm]

you need 2 inputs

[glossy nymph]

You are late in chat

[crimson inlet]

YOU'RE GONNA BE POOR IN WULING, WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT

[civic raft]

hahahaha so funny pal 😹😹

[brave vapor]

you see it as a lie, i, however can only tell you that i said it from my heart

[crimson inlet]

.dump

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1440929401293377577/he-bought-v0-xr0k05p7u92g1.png?ex=691ff194&is=691ea014&hm=23556644f228e8a04b70be8ec7172442b5e26952308f2dad2668b548183f0c92&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=610&height=593

[tribal oak]

.pp

[shrewd sigil]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/956086663447207956/1331192247856922696/most_defensible_btw.gif

[glossy nymph]

Things where pretty crazy a little while ago.

[civic raft]

bro might be in love with @thorny galleon

[next prairie]

How does the item control port work? Is it per min?

[potent gull]

I'm going to trade 8 thousand xiranite

[neat prawn]

I guessed so its on 120/300, so do i just produce it only once?

[glossy nymph]

Excuse me?

[crimson inlet]

no, its per item quantity

[tribal oak]

at least the factory aint cooked anymore

[crimson inlet]

you have to reset everytime

[brave vapor]

unironically i did this for 2 days cause i was getting my shit sorted in wuling but of course, i got the xyranite going as soon as i got access

[exotic void]

How is that... useful?

[potent gull]

I need to mass produce xiranite so I can build the wireless technology asap!

[crimson inlet]

I'm gonna trade my 2.1k wuling bats

[crimson inlet]

If you have a line for making xinerite bottles...

[thorny galleon]

The second picture uses ferrium ore. I don't have sandleaf so I don't have a design that incorporates it, sorry!

[crimson inlet]

but you also have a line for Yazhen

[crude magnet]

give us a new update

[potent gull]

Btw shoutout to the devs for not making the xiranite production require any ores

[tight ridge]

I hate it how we can't connect buildings without belts inbetween

[potent gull]

Just plants and some sandleaf + water 🔥

[atomic sedge]

Factory must always grow… some how

[haughty palm]

ok so. to put it simply. you need 2 machines making the steel parts. and 3 machines making dense originium cubes to do a 6/min

[next prairie]

So… I have it directly tied to my thermal banks, and if I want to make it that the banks only get 1 purple batt every 40s… i set it at 1?

[zinc ivy]

HOW

[haughty palm]

this is because it produces batteries every 10s and it takes 2s to produce the input materials. so you need 2 of steel parts and 3 of dense originium cubes

[glossy nymph]

Your bluetooth device is ready to pair.

[crude magnet]

thats not alot

[neat prawn]

Will try that, thx🙌

[thorny galleon]

As far as I can tell with the item control port, you get to the limit and.. just stop there. Does anyone know if I have this wrong?

[zinc ivy]

I don't even have one lol

[twilit island]

Isn't wuling gated by having 2 forges only

How'd you get that many

[brave vapor]

yes

[crude magnet]

yes it is

[thorny galleon]

(I just don't see a use for the item-control port besides setting it to X amount to make only X amount of an item while you're offline)

[twilit island]

You got Wuling Day1 into Factory upgrades?

[potent gull]

Yeah, I use the ratio of 1 production line for 5 materials for bigger things. Something needs 5 parts? Only need one of that part production, as long as it takes 2 seconds

[haughty palm]

that and ferrium ore is so scarce

[twilit island]

I am 3 days late but still

[tribal agate]

what should I be transferring from valley 4 into wuling?

[haughty palm]

yup pretty much simple math

[brave vapor]

splitters and control ports are downright useless rn because the belts are slow a shit

[haughty palm]

but it can be confusing for new factory ppl

[thorny galleon]

Splitters can be good for appropriately distributing ore/batteries across thermal banks.. and that's about it from what I can see

[glossy nymph]

Not Worthed

[brave vapor]

if we speed up the belts by alot, that just invites people that dont know better to do sushi belts

[twilit island]

wdym, spliters legit are the very core of optimising your base

[thorny galleon]

Control ports for if you're using a Protocol Stash as a centralized storage point before redistribution 🤷

[potent gull]

Wait a minute. I must've heard something wrong

[crude magnet]

idk i just play, im pretty sure most of the people here has the same builds/outputs

[potent gull]

You can only have 2 forges of the sky?

[crude magnet]

yup

[brave vapor]

and honestly, id rather see the 10th post using 1 belt to output sandleaf dust then trying to understand the monstrosity that gacha players will do with sushi belts

[potent gull]

Welp, guess I know how I want to end up

[haughty palm]

kinda i run for both components and the batteries. and use metastorage for yahzens

[potent gull]

60 xiranite a minute is NOWHERE NEAR ENOUGH

[haughty palm]

just cause i wanna artifice right now

[crude magnet]

yeah i dont run comps anymore i have enough, since each team only need 800

[potent gull]

Speaking of teams I need to figure out what gold set to make each of my people

[brave vapor]

temporary lower your battery production and push the most you can do to components

[haughty palm]

yup

[crude magnet]

which char

[haughty palm]

but really doing both at the same time is more convenient

[brave vapor]

basically, xiranite being annoying is because its one of the few moments where people actually have to ration there recourses while also being in the late game

[crude magnet]

this is what you'd want for valley for reference

[thorny galleon]

(What's a sushi belt?

[potent gull]

Last rite, xaihi, snowshine, flourite, pog, endmin, pan and chen

[haughty palm]

nah all i hate is how much ferrium we get cause i could be making bank right now

[brave vapor]

factorio started term for cramming every product onto 1 conveyor belt

[crude magnet]

2 teams?

[potent gull]

Take me as your apprentice... Teach me the ways of endgame factory!

[crude magnet]

if you were only on asia a quick copy paste blueprint would be easy

[potent gull]

Yeah. Someone told me it'd be best since apparently every gacha game like this has something that needs 2 teams

[brave vapor]

imagine running your factory with 1 continuous belt and everything outputted goes onto that belt

[potent gull]

And like. I needed an excuse to use pog

I got a dupe of him and his weapon on my first try

[haughty palm]

lucky

[potent gull]

• endmin, I wanted to use him too

[thorny galleon]

Huuh
Yeah, the belts aren't fast enough to do that with most factory setups. Maybe for the ones that have 10s recipes, but otherwise..

[crude magnet]

im waiting rn, im just building levatain and ardelia cause i dont wanna invest too much on 4 and 5 star chars

[potent gull]

They happened at separate times. I got the dupe today, but THEN I rolled and got his weapon

[haughty palm]

i am legit hitting the pity for his weapon

lol

1 more ten and i get it

[potent gull]

I only care about a cryo team and a pog/endmin team

Anything else is a snoozefest

[crude magnet]

ya pulling for yvonne?

[potent gull]

Is she cryo?

[ancient zinc]

Wanna see some cool?

[crude magnet]

yew

[potent gull]

Then of course I am!

Wait is she a GOOD cryo

[brave vapor]

i build 1 team, i never switch chara in combat, i use snowshine, i press 1 when the enemy is about to attack, i never got bricked by any fight

[potent gull]

Like could she replace someone on my team... Like flourite...

[crude magnet]

this is what u want for last rite @potent gull

[hallow reef]

Is this Purple Battery Layout any good? I messed around a bit and tried to get something compact lmao

[brave vapor]

have you checked the sandleaf recipe

[potent gull]

Oh sorry

WHAT

[hallow reef]

The whut

[haughty palm]

what happened

[ancient zinc]

[potent gull]

Tsumino went insaneo style

[haughty palm]

i saw it when i got back

[brave vapor]

the dust recipe from the plant

[scenic comet]

anyone willing to share me the last 3 turrets i need to afk this?

[potent gull]

However... I don't think I want a team like that to be honest

[haughty palm]

bro making a kill box lel

[crude magnet]

im pretty happy w my pulls ngl

[hallow reef]

Well its just sandleaf into a grinder i dont get the question

[potent gull]

If I just bodied every enemy I got enough hits off of, the fights would become a chore

[haughty palm]

uh why do good things happen to other people but not me

[brave vapor]

well, how much does 1 plant make.

[potent gull]

I need it to be fun and interesting. I need to prolong their death.

[crude magnet]

results come in time dont worry

[potent gull]

(hint, it isn't 1)

[hallow reef]

3 lol

[crude magnet]

play ember snowshine xiahi and arde

[brave vapor]

how fast do you think the conveyor belts go

[crude magnet]

u can put 3 outputs

[hallow reef]

0,5 sec

[thorny galleon]

He's asking that because, with an output of 3-powder/2sec, what you can do is have three separate lines coming out of the Shredder. Each line will be at maximum flow

[haughty palm]

i have been losing for so many months on og arknights

and i am here in endfield losing

[wanton ridge]

Can someone help me with the Paving the Way objective, is there an easier way to transport the amethyst instead of going back and forth from the drills to the gearing unit

[potent gull]

Who's ember

[haughty palm]

hard pity (50/50) laevatain, get her weapon on 8 issue pity...

[potent gull]

You should unlock a new drill very soon. Mk1

[potent gull]

Ion got her chief

[brave vapor]

so, since the recipe outputs 3/2 second, while the belts go at 1/2 second, do you think you need the 2nd shredder

[wanton ridge]

In the beginning it makes everything so farm from each other so thats why im struggling

[hallow reef]

Even if the flow from grinder is triple, it doesnt speed up the next machine since it takes longer to produce even with 1 line

[haughty palm]

ember!!

people need to talk about her more she is not bad

[potent gull]

Yeah but after you get the electric drill, those drills will put your ores in your depot for you

Replace all regular drills with electric asap

[hallow reef]

I dont know you think i should try to reduce to 1 ?

[potent gull]

But until then, it's a grind

[crude magnet]

shes my 1st 6 star

[hallow reef]

My brain can only handle this much complexity

[brave vapor]

if you think your design is fine as is, then i have no comment

[thorny galleon]

What you can do is feed one Shredder into two.. Grinding units? Is that what you're feeding those into? (Not in Sandleaf stage yet, but I've done some research)

[wanton ridge]

I'm gonna look up a guide on how to set up the factory during the Paving the Way objective in the beginning

[potent gull]

Buddy, I got 3 6 stars. My first was from the 40, my goat and bbg last rite. My final two were fucking POG. Ain't no way my ahh is getting another unless I want to spend my soft pity on laev instead of yvonne

[hallow reef]

Well its just the first working version that was relatively compact, im open for suggestions but this factory thing kinda hard to understand

[haughty palm]

my personal opinion is just play with it for now don't look for help unless you are in dire need

[crude magnet]

i've been so lucky aswell ngl, laevatain + weap, ember, last rite and ofc arde (she doesnt count) but im really happy with the start of this acc

[haughty palm]

the factory is only a chore because people who look for bps already don't care about the dang thing

[brave vapor]

9/10, your better off trying to make the most out of a single machine in this game, because they take up too much space and eat up energy even at idle

[haughty palm]

so ofc it will suck

[thorny galleon]

Sorry, I just realized that you were asking if it was good, not looking for optimization. Yup, it's good! For optimization purposes you can reduce it down to one Sandleaf depot, but you have a good setup ^^

[haughty palm]

i woke up to a missing conveyor...

good times

[hallow reef]

Yeah I get this totally, my brain just hurts thinking how i create the Crossings to reduce machines

[potent gull]

Oh I can't say I haven't been lucky, don't get me wrong. I got the pog weapon on my first try and the khraven on the soft pity 50/50

[crude magnet]

i'd invest more on last rite if i can get her sig weapon

[potent gull]

Bridges become buddies <3

[scenic comet]

you need 3x brown cubes and 2x steel parts for 100% output

[potent gull]

Last rite is currently my highest character yet

[brave vapor]

we all have learning stages

[potent gull]

Endmin and pog are soon to follow

[ancient zinc]

Imagine waking up just to see ur unit stop working coz of random item wasn’t supposed to to be there

[haughty palm]

aw shit that is the worst lol

[scenic comet]

-3 depots, gotta redo it SMH

[crude magnet]

i'm defo ready for gilberta or yvonne

[potent gull]

Ngl I just make sandleaf dust separately and use the dust from the depot 🤷‍♂️

[hallow reef]

Thats useful thanks

[potent gull]

Wait when is yvonne

[haughty palm]

i will show you the true meaning of ready once i am logged in

[crude magnet]

end of feb if i remember correctly

[trim star]

next next banner

[brave vapor]

this setup i stil kept, even after knowing a small trick to really compact it down, mostly cause i'm lazy and it still works but also cause i made it myself

[thorny galleon]

What's the recipe for the battery yuki's trying to make?

[crude magnet]

im f2p okay if you're about to flex on me, my poor wallet

[thorny galleon]

Trying to math out the input ratios for stuff optimization*

[potent gull]

Aw man... Unless gilberta is actually ass I'll have a hard time exercising self control,,,

[haughty palm]

nah most of this is f2p too

[crude magnet]

shes good for aoe

[ancient zinc]

Force to play ??

[haughty palm]

oo mama

[brave vapor]

hc battery basically needs 2x 3 belt shredder for sandleaf, you'll know when you get there

[crude magnet]

sheesh, im lacking on chest finding its such a pain without those chest findy item

[hallow reef]

How do you calculate the exact needs? I struggle with this alot

[rough stream]

it's actually pretty easy to get the hang of compared to other games. all you need to know is that the 10 second recipes need 1 belt of resources for each 5 component. so if a battery needs 5 amethyst and 10 originum, then it needs 2 belts of originum + 1 belt of amethyst.

[brave vapor]

simply apply the belt speed to craft speed

[haughty palm]

dw i am kind of a freak when it comes to exploration so i just detour during quests and pick up shit

then i use the finders when i get stumped

[thorny galleon]

But I want to procrastinate on story 😢

[hallow reef]

Oh that makes sense I'm stupid lol

[shrewd knoll]

Everything in packaging is 10s so you just do some division

[potent gull]

Tbf the story only goes to 2-2

[crude magnet]

yeah im starting to get all of em, i just finished valley and hub, gunna do the rest tomorrow

[ancient zinc]

Story?

I’m listening

[shrewd sigil]

Should I leave up my ferrium factory just to sell the components or no?

[thorny galleon]

I calculate needs based on the 'unit' ratio of 1item/2sec (max belt speed)
i.e., for the first LC battery, you want 2 units of Originium Ore and 1 unit of Amethyst Ore going into their stuffs

[brave vapor]

than your better off enjoying the factory in ignorant bliss, its like the most complex factory line in the game, wuling got simpler

[potent gull]

What

[brave vapor]

modding

[thorny galleon]

Nooooo it gets simpler in Wuling? D:

[scenic comet]

you work your way backwards, usually it's 1:5, so if something requires 10:15 you need 2:3 of it

[thorny galleon]

..Okay, it's fair that it does, because this stuff is complicated (and the complexity of it makes me into it)

[haughty palm]

@hallow reef a good way to think about it is production is 5 for each input facility so steel makes 5 per fitting facility if it's at max output

so when you look at the recipe multiples of 5 so you know how much facilities you need

[potent gull]

It only gets simpler because you become smarter

[brave vapor]

i suggest you run away from this gacha game try out other factory sim if this stuff is fun for you

[scenic comet]

here;s HC batt, there's some extra planters in there though which i needed for other HC bats in other outposts

[potent gull]

Factorio, satisfactory

[thorny galleon]

Nah, it wouldn't be fun if the only 'purpose' of the factory is to get into more factory. Here I'm enjoying it because of STONKS

Also, I came from Arknights the original C:
(which is why I'm here)

[scenic comet]

whoops, full photo

[shrewd sigil]

Should I leave up my ferrium factory just to sell the components or no?

[brave vapor]

if you wanna instantly lose 10k hours, i suggest also playing the most ballbusting factory sims out of the gate(factorio, GregTech New Horizon)

[hallow reef]

Can someone explain to me how I Plant/Seed loop?

I put Planter and seeder in a loop but how many lines to I draw to protocol stash?

[thorny galleon]

You get a better selling ratio when you make batteries or consumables for selling!
But if you don't have time to set one up, no biggie, the parts still do sell ^^

[scenic comet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1461541796977967289/1467316458169176185/B258C46A-256D-4F2A-A96E-CE853A3027B4.png?ex=697ff071&is=697e9ef1&hm=40a2fe3aa302d21220750161c4dd66d1d47b8179be70506601b2aa22817dd561&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1658&height=938

[hallow reef]

Any reason for a second planter?

[tribal agate]

I just unlocked the AIC in wuling, how long should I keep pushing story before exploring the map for mines and building up my factory?

[brave vapor]

until the 2nd aic

your almost there

[shrewd sigil]

Meh ima burn it down once I get a few ferrium cause I need to craft more electric mining 2

[thorny galleon]

For full output!
You get two seeds from one plant at a time, so you can grow two plants at the same time with one plant going back into the seeds

[scenic comet]

1 planter replenishes plants, 1 planter generates the outputs, the seeder needs plants or you'll run out if you just keep taking from it

[tribal agate]

okie thank you! im kinda being slow but I dont wanna burn out so haha I will take the time to get there!! thank you!

[hallow reef]

Ah lol that was my issue

[thorny galleon]

🙆‍♂️
Perfect! When I unlocked Ferrium ore, I made a mini setup to get Parts and Bottles overnight, and left it running until I maxed out my inventory

[hallow reef]

I thought i put 1:1 loop and 1 plant goes to protocol while the other produces more seeds

[thorny galleon]

You can do 1planter/1seedpicker too; it works, but it doesn't maximize the potential output ^^
You can use that setup if you don't need that much plant output

[tribal agate]

also just for my understanding, does wuling have its own types of machines because of the water pipes? so it makes very different items from valley 4?

[thorny galleon]

Out of curiosity, have you done the Simulations (aka factory tutorials)? It does explain some of this stuff

[brave vapor]

some are adapted to use water, some are new

[hallow reef]

Well I probably need it, i finished most of the versions game story and map wise. I try to build my factories now but its so hard

[tribal agate]

got it, ty for the info and help!

[rough stream]

some of the plants need it as well

but idt you even have enough xiranite to make them

so doesn't really matter

[tribal agate]

most likely not haha I dont even have one yet

I will make more progress in the story and then committ to exploring the region and focusing on the factory for sure

[thorny galleon]

If you haven't already, going through the Simulations will help you pick up some of the factory knowledge ^^

[scenic comet]

yeah, it has 2 new machines, and planters also can take in water which change how they work

[thorny galleon]

If you don't know where it is (and I'm posting this here for the bystanders), you can find them here, in the tech-tree window:

[hallow reef]

Ive played those already, I kinda understand how it all works (except for the mathematical aspect) but I lack the knowledge what items to farm, how to utilize the space and those stuff

For now I figured I build purple battery for outpost stocks but after that I dont have an idea anymore

[thorny galleon]

Understandable! I bring it up since the 2 planter/1 seed-picker ratio was something I learned from there, but that might've been one of the bonus parts

[brave vapor]

unironically, if you got past the tutorial you already got more then enough patience to figure this out

and if you ask me, those tutorials only helps you get even more confused then help you understand

[scenic comet]

the tutorials are kinda too long, i forget what they teach me, written guides are the way to go

[thorny galleon]

For the math, I try to break it down to 'units' of X items per 2 seconds, since 1i/2s is the rate at which belts and depots go at

[hallow reef]

The tutorials are mostly unnecessary and repetitive

[thorny galleon]

Very very repetitive, since it's assuming that you haven't read the other tutorials when you get to the current one 😢

[hallow reef]

Unfortunately I finished all the tutorial Sims right before they added the skip button where you still get the rewards

[crimson inlet]

when your physics math conversions work in counting how much a Yazhen Syringe production earns per day

.sigma2

[shrewd sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-takdes-takundes-lowlight-arknights-meme-gif-7306430653055212822

[thorny galleon]

The what button?

Also, as an aside for my 'units' math, what you can also think of them as 'belts'. i.e., "I need 2 belts of Originium Ore and 1 belt of Amethyst Ore for the LC Valley batteries"

[scenic comet]

finally done 🙏 thank the for all the mats needed to upgrade

[rough stream]

the xiranite stuff is really slow you need like an hour to make a single piece, so start early lol

i would start with a small xiranite factory, you can power it with a few stacks of batteries from Valley 4. You need it for exploration, and also nice to have a stockpile.

once you have 180 originum you can build a self sufficient xiranite battery factory. so no need to move batteries.

Once you have all the originum nodes, u can build a second xiranite battery factory, but redirect like 25-50% of xiranite to a depot to make Xiranite Component for gold gear

[brave vapor]

i crashlanded onto a planet, my shit is nearby with some stuff> i can mine some rocks with the pickaxe in the chest> i have a new recipe with the rocks i mined called a furnace> the furnace, as the name implies, needs fuel to run, this should help me make some iron because something that looks like the rock i just mined looks diffierent and what i got from it is called raw iron ore

then factorio just tells you your on your own

[crimson inlet]

Factorio start

[oblique pendant]

why is bro larping factorio

[thorny galleon]

I thought he was referring to Minecraft lmao

[crimson inlet]

watching vids of factorio made me adept to playing factorio for the first time, ngl

[brave vapor]

now try and summerize what the endfield tutorial teaches you at every step

[crimson inlet]

I'm trying

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QGKjVRwkJ7pxd6S_w17jTlRBaTai71SxdY77seSOnRk/edit?usp=drivesdk

[thorny galleon]

oh noice

[potent gull]

Chat I just realized, you might be able to dedicate 1 pair of planters to feed 2 seed pickers, and then use the two free planters on the same production line (say if you need the plant and its dust for two separate things)

[thorny galleon]

So the same 2:1 ratio of planters to seed-pickers?

[crimson inlet]

it's still heavily wip

I'm slow as hell

[thorny galleon]

Admirable that you're working on it, though!

[tribal agate]

oh wow wtf I had no idea it was that bad lol. is there a blueprint for a small factory so I can put one down as soon as I can? I have loads of extra batteries from valley 4

[scenic comet]

i think some people might go a lil' insane trying to fit everything into 1 PAC. e.g. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1466662291377487966/1466662292786511915/12_hc_18_buck.png?ex=697f8973&is=697e37f3&hm=3155ce36620ffffc593fbfb8c4eaed9dc685edbd83eb17d6f1e94dc518f8f011&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1209&height=1160

[thorny galleon]

I think I'll go insane trying to parse that

[hallow reef]

What the fuck

[scenic comet]

it's not too bad tbh, the challenge is figuring out where to put the seed planters, everything else is just a true that goes downwards

[hallow reef]

My brain is not braining

[oblique pendant]

what even is the point, i'm not playing a factorio challenge

[obtuse nacelle]

hmm, do I make Dense Originium and refine it into Dense Origocrust, or make Origocrust and then process it into Dense Origocrust

[thorny galleon]

aand that reminds me that I wanted to continue with story for tonight!
Time to go back to that..........

[proven moss]

12 hrs production

[undone harbor]

The optimal production for Valley IV is 3 lines of HC battery, 3 lines of Buck Capsule A and 4 lines of Buck Capsule C?

You only have 2/3 of a belt of Originium left over

[scenic comet]

correct

[rough stream]

the xiranite battery factories just look them up on youtube

for xiranite you can just run it like this, you will take it down later so don't care about wasted space. the water pipe goes on the top

[round trellis]

Hello guys, new here. I was wondering, does anybody know where I can find the maximum number of items that can be placed for each outpost ?

[undone harbor]

768 for Core AIC area

[round trellis]

Thanks and they do differ per outpost ? I am asking cause I have a built place in power plateau and I can’t past the blueprint in Valley cause it exceeds the limit

[nova knot]

[WULING]

Are there any more efficient setups for wuling I could be using for production? Maximizing stockbills currently (though I might slap down a component bill again soon)
My SIC is basically untouched

[undone harbor]

Outposts have a lower limit, but I can’t remember. Something in the mid 300s

[round trellis]

Valley is 256

[undone harbor]

Metastorage transfer to get 25 more ferrium per minute for extra medicine uptime?

[opal nebula]

Hello can anyone help me with wuling I actually suck at building farms XS

[round trellis]

Plateau is obviously different since I cannot past a blueprint from there to Valley. It’s annoying

[opal nebula]

Do any of U have any good blueprints for wuling?

[nova knot]

Im shipping in the 1.5k/h

Its just not listed in the graph

[undone harbor]

Then it looks optimal to me at the moment

[nova knot]

I cwi

[tepid wigeon]

Can you metatransfer ferrium bottles at 1.5k per hour

idk if it's an option

[rough stream]

i like how 1.5/hour is not enough to feed a single belt lmao

is there any endgame use for amethyst? none of the expensive recipes use it

[tepid wigeon]

Buck capsule c

[short osprey]

does the theoretical data in the AIC report matter or should i on only focus on the current data?

[slender abyss]

why is the shi coming out clogged

isnt it supposed to be the opposite

[thorny galleon]

It's because the belt itself is maxed out; the PAC is unable to push any more items out onto the belt. Is the Amethyst Ore not being consumed?

[slender abyss]

its supposed to go in the refining unit but its stuck

no idea why

[thorny galleon]

Can I get a view of the Refining Unit? is it clogged, unpowered, turned off?

[slender abyss]

gimme a sec

[thorny galleon]

If you can Enter Top View (Capslock or click on the button), mind giving me a screenshot of your current setup?

[tepid wigeon]

Theoretical is optimal, you wanna try to match it if you have the yield for it

[short osprey]

ty

[thorny galleon]

Can you get another screenshot with one of the Refining Unit's interfaces open? I don't see a problem with the belt setup, but I don't know why your refining units aren't working. I don't see a blocked symbol..

[slender abyss]

yup

[idle gorge]

guys can't wait to farm cuprium and aggagrit

[trim star]

YO I GOTTA FARM NOW WHAT IS THIS

im dead bruh

i dont got the building limit for this

[trim star]

wrong logistics device

most likely

[thorny galleon]

I just noticed that you have a Logistic device on your belt; try replacing it with with a simple belt. You can click/interact with it and Stash it

[trim star]

either it's not a splitter or it's pointed the wrong way

[crude nebula]

possibly due to belt sending 1/sec. but the machine eat 1/ 2 sec

[buoyant surge]

Could please someone help me on how to start out with the wuling base?

i need basically everything there

lvl 70 gear

[crude nebula]

but clogged is better, you know yourbase still have enough item

[slender abyss]

that was it ty very much

[tired parcel]

One only

[trim star]

belts are .5/s

[thorny galleon]

What logistic device was it? I'm just curious ^^

[crude nebula]

just start as normal sub-pac, but bring HC bat, to trigger the machine

[slender abyss]

the item control port

[trim star]

oh that definitely doesnt turn

lol

[slender abyss]

no clue why it wasnt working

[cunning fable]

Anyone see any improvements I can make?

[tired parcel]

Only one for 4 thermal bank

[thorny galleon]

Weeird, that Logistic facility should only be going straight through, but it appears as if the Facility made a connection.. gonna play around with it a bit

[tranquil marlin]

so I'm at 1072 ore production but guides say 1080
I have no clue where I'm missing that last ore bed

[tepid wigeon]

Does theoretical say 1080?

[tranquil marlin]

oh wait my yield is 1080
so I capped out?

[crude nebula]

do your storage already reached max limit? maybe around 80k or something

[trim star]

depot maxed

[thorny galleon]

I see! The belt itself was turning into a 'dead-end'!

[tepid wigeon]

If you're storage capped then your actual yield will be cut if you aren't using all of it

[slender abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-jjk-s2-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-s2-jjk-season-2-gif-9844955925506901130

[thorny galleon]

The Theoretical Yield of an ore should be about what you are getting from your mining rigs. The Actual Yield can be affected when you reach the cap; the mining rigs stop sending the ore, so it's not being recorded as Actual Yield.

[slender abyss]

how do i check it again

[crude nebula]

if your depot filled up, compare the current & theoretical for easier maximum read, else just use the current

below the item icon

[thorny galleon]

Does Sandleaf make 2 or 3 seeds in the Seed Picker?

[crude nebula]

2

[thorny galleon]

Oh lol just saw the belt coming from a different place, not the same Seed-Picker

[cunning fable]

Is there anyway to improve originium yield? or is this the max?

Wuling btw

[tepid wigeon]

Max I think

[cunning fable]

damn its so low

i can only have 2 battery factories with this much

[crude nebula]

currently wuling had so low yield, must do the regional transfer

[cunning fable]

only issue is you need to do that manually every 2 hours

[crimson inlet]

I'm at the point in the game where I optimize my relays and explore missions

[languid trench]

doesn't it just keep sending ?

[cunning fable]

not that i know of

[crude nebula]

in my case, i always sending extra ferrium, seem stable in my base

[thorny galleon]

Press Escape and, on the bottom middle of your screen, click on AIC Report

[crude nebula]

it's always sending every irl 1 hours

[cunning fable]

ferrium isnt an issue tbh, since you need originium for most of the products

[slender abyss]

I SEE

sorry caps lock

i see

[cunning fable]

the transfer is auto always active?

[crude nebula]

don't craft too much

[crude nebula]

always

[cunning fable]

I'm not even crafting at half my potential

[crude nebula]

as long as you set the item

[crimson inlet]

I've crafted... 70 xirenite relays and 70 xiranite pylons...

with 80 zipline towers

[crude nebula]

may i know, what level is your regional development in valley 4?

[cunning fable]

hmm, maybe i should set transfer to send over dense originium powder and just make valley 4 produce as much as possible

[cunning fable]

11 i think

[crude nebula]

i see, i always have stable ferrium transfer on lvl 12, because the limit is 1,5k per hours

[cunning fable]

what you using your ferrium on? im just crafting batteries and components

[crude nebula]

my base setup is 12 bat per minute and 6 jincao drink

[cunning fable]

why you crafting so much of those for?

[grave musk]

icl idk if its js me but having 2 colors w xiranite and reg relay makes this look so nice

[cunning fable]

hardly noticible

[vestal moat]

[shrewd sigil]

finally. i made the thing after going thru the maze of convoys

[crude nebula]

just to fill up the outpost, why not

[grizzled dune]

any way to quickly transfer 50k items to wuling etc?

[cunning fable]

Oh i see they have better healing

[crude nebula]

by hand, through Dijiang

[cosmic wigeon]

how i feel crafting 40 depot bus centers only for 2 to ever be placeable 💔

[crude nebula]

yes, 1,2k compared to 800

[wary wagon]

does theoretical data matter? should i just worry about current data in the aic report

[grizzled dune]

thats so much work though, 50*35 and much clicks

[shrewd sigil]

this is the only thing that powers my whole base

[languid trench]

well it can help identify if something is working under efficiently

[crude nebula]

this data show the maximum yield you can have, when all machine work together

[cunning fable]

3 uses max per operator per battle correct?

good just making sure i didnt have 3 on each operator and it didnt let them heal after 3 were used

[crude nebula]

oh i personally rather use the instant heal than the overtime

[distant verge]

so my AIC is capable of 200 i found blueprints but i cant place them not sure what i did wrong

[brave vapor]

it also shows if somethings kinda wrong with your factory, like lets say you do the sandleaf shredder but you only have 1 belt, the theoretical will report all 3 technically but the actual is diffrent

[cunning fable]

this heals 700 more hp

[brave vapor]

it says there in the description yes

[high stag]

is a resource loss of 10-20 per minute considered bad, or just average

[crude nebula]

it's just about preference

[brave vapor]

if you wanna be pedantic, the syringes are better off traded in instead of used, as wuling currency is abit tight rn

[grave musk]

is this better than buck capsule A? it nets more heals but

[crude nebula]

once your depot depleted, it's bad

[grave musk]

is HoT better than straight?

[high stag]

well its my originium and my originium powder so

[trim star]

there's two tiles of water here

[brave vapor]

i just read properly waht the question was, its bad

[crude nebula]

in my case, i reduce 1 machine, better than depleted when i'm asleep

[brave vapor]

are you using them in some kind of battery production

[crude nebula]

yeah HC bat

[high stag]

i dont have HC battery production yet.

[brave vapor]

if yes, you better hope it doesnt brick your factory cause it couldnt keep up making them.

[undone ether]

realistically you dont want your usage to be over your yield. Either under or equal

[brave vapor]

doesnt matter if its hc or not, if your battery production suffers cause you think its fine, that can lead to the entire factory shutting down

[high stag]

Im trying to float my AIC off of 3 LC and 2 SC factory lines

but i didnt have enough powder, so i made a ton of originium shredders. but now im losing originium over time too

[unkempt elk]

can we use 2 forge of the sky in wuling and another 2 in valley?

[idle grove]

are there any power sources in the originium science park?
im planning to pull a cable all the way from the hub to the ferrium beds there because i cant find any power there

[brave vapor]

no

[paper jetty]

when I dont have space for more planting units

[crude nebula]

only in wuling

[unkempt elk]

demmit

[high stag]

theres a PAC, yea

[brave vapor]

have you tried using fluids in valley.

[idle grove]

huh i guess its in the fog

[crude nebula]

a mission after finishing main story

[high stag]

keep running the storyline until you finish the big fight with Yvonne. then you can unlock the PAC

[brave vapor]

you get a pac, even if you dont, your gonna pull a pylon to a non aic/pac anyway

[bleak frigate]

Not for Firebuckle nor Umbraline

Its so weird cause not even plot is in crafting

Anyway someone said that there is a better consumable fluffed jincao

[idle grove]

so i still gotta pull a cable from hub to science park?

[high stag]

no

unless you want to

[brave vapor]

no, i meant that you need to do stuff like that anyway

[idle grove]

oh ok

[dusk willow]

Is the 6/min Yazhen Syringe 6/min wuling bat set up enough to keep stock bills uncapped? doesn't feel like it

[undone ether]

The rare plants are just obtained through Eco-farming the regular one and harvest iirc

[shrewd knoll]

just get them in the wild, they always spawn in the same place

the farm plots are too RNG

[crude nebula]

try to turn off 1 shredder, it should no longer depleted by 10 or 20

[high stag]

just do the main story. The PAC will come. dont worry about lines yet

[brave vapor]

i heard that you can just load and unload the area to force it to reapawn

[distant verge]

is there a beginner AIC in the blueprints

[brave vapor]

the farm is there for convenience tbh

[shrewd knoll]

you cant even use the farm if you setup the ziplines in that map

[high stag]

its some passive growth per day, not like you can do anything else with the land.

[shrewd knoll]

not enough protocol capacity

[crude nebula]

IMO, yes you just need to find the correct one

you guys use farm? i'm to lazy to manually farm it

[brave vapor]

cant wait for them to add a lategame plant that is needed in someway to force people to use the farm

[crude nebula]

just set it up, and never see it again

[high stag]

to be fair, your squad will also help harvest and replant.

[bleak frigate]

Its not worth not cause manual farming, but because rng, out of 10 maybe 1 is one of those

So yeah, another consumable better lol

[brave vapor]

i still havent harvested the park farm from the tutorial

[crude nebula]

yeah, but they react slow

[high stag]

true. idk, free plants for about the same amount of time it would take to harvest the same amount in the wild

[crude nebula]

they need to design a machine so people will have option to utilize the farm

[high stag]

the farm is there for the stardew players

[shrewd knoll]

or just give the option to farm in the core base

[brave vapor]

its called the sprinkler

[shrewd knoll]

so it doesnt use up protocol capacity

[crude nebula]

like the sprinkler in wuling, maybe an auto farming hand robot thing

[high stag]

I'll be honest, if the devs had made it so you could farm firebuckle and umbraline, i would see the functional appeal of it

[shrewd knoll]

imagine making an automation game and then give you the manual farming sim

[crude nebula]

sprinkler can't pick the item, only water them

[brave vapor]

some people despise the factory and would rather interact with the farm, even with the blueprint spoonfeeding them

[knotty musk]

I have no idea what im doing is this good?

[high stag]

add a system to allow you to assign operators to the farm

[gentle sun]

try and shorten belt lengths. no reason for them to be that long

[crude nebula]

yeah, maybe they will patch it later

[shrewd knoll]

they literally have that in the spaceship....lol

[high stag]

exactly

[crude nebula]

that's different material

[gentle sun]

heck i'd even let them charge me valley bills to automate eco farm

[high stag]

all 20 of my operators are not gonna fit on the Djing, lemme send some of them to the fields

[crude nebula]

like the red ginseng in wuling actually a good item, but i'm too lazy to farm it for an automation game

[shrewd knoll]

but they kind of also make you choose between the zipline/defense or the farm with the capacity mechanic

[high stag]

ive been postponing unlocking Wuling for so long

[high stag]

i dont actually use the ziplines often, unless the quest asks for it

[crude nebula]

using ziplines for daily depot node, is fun

[shrewd knoll]

the ziplines are super useful but dependant on the areas you can glitch into to get high vantage

[high stag]

i gotta start doing the depot deliveries more often

[crude nebula]

easy fast cash

[shrewd knoll]

also super useful if it's a depot map

[high stag]

i unlocked all 3 depots in Valley IV to level 2, but keep forgetting to do any deliveries

although my factory problems definitely take precedence

[gentle sun]

you should, it's massive income early game

[crude nebula]

or extra income in late game

[high stag]

Is C1, P5 actually still considered early game 💀

[crude nebula]

espeacially if you want to buy the 16M's item

[shrewd knoll]

you can always just transfer it if you dont want to do it and still get the income or partial if the other guy decides not to do it

[gentle sun]

wuling artificing/essence grind is the end game

[onyx quest]

can anyone give me a blueprint for wuling? just started just yesterday

[high stag]

i do need money. got lucky with a 669% profit in the stock market today for a 1.3 mil paycheck, immediately spent it on factory upgrades

[crude nebula]

some people already share starter one in bp chat

[crude nebula]

wait, how do you set it to transfer by other people? i didn't see the option

[high stag]

best day of my life.

[shrewd knoll]

after you accept the mission, go into mission menu and it has a transfer option

this is before you pick up the item

[onyx quest]

bp chat?

[gentle sun]

#1461542035617091681

[high stag]

#1461542035617091681

[gentle sun]

valley bills aren't as exciting late game

[onyx quest]

thanks

[high stag]

im never gonna reach late game cause i got the 100% completions autism.

[crude nebula]

here's the one that i think good to use latter after wuling story complete, but for now, regular setup still works fine https://discord.com/channels/950244160684834837/1464840815321813106

[hallow reef]

Is this purple battery layout better now

[gentle sun]

you'll fit right in here

[exotic void]

Same, I’m 100%ing Valley IV before starting Wuling

[shrewd knoll]

its working at 33% efficiency

[hallow reef]

Howww

[high stag]

im like level 50 and still putting off Conference of Four

[thorny galleon]

It's a good start!

[shrewd knoll]

just add 2 more originium cubes

worth of (full) belts

[hallow reef]

2 more of this?

[gentle sun]

actually two

[high stag]

Ive gotten all the AIC tech, all the Delta bots, all the Aurylenes in 2 regions, and all the chests in 1 region

[hallow reef]

[high stag]

also 33 side quests

[hallow reef]

Aight imma rework it ty

[gentle sun]

nobody saw

[high stag]

peak

[gentle sun]

wuling is gonna be so fun for you

[high stag]

ima hope my factories last the night cause my phone died and im not staying up long enough for it to recharge

[shrewd knoll]

wuling is systematic torture

to find those things

so just cheat

[high stag]

i have the compasses for Valley 4, im sure wuling has them too. or i just Youtube it

[shrewd knoll]

they do but the sheer amount

[hallow reef]

Would i not need to also add a sandflower output to match the 2 more belts

[gentle sun]

it's making me depressed thinking about the 140 more chests i need to find in wuling

[shrewd knoll]

they also lock doors behind side quest so....

[high stag]

to be fair, im so autistic about finding things that i usually find 95% of the collectibles without the compasses

i got all the medals to silver before i even used a compass the first time

[gentle sun]

yes

[dim ice]

whats wrong its next to the depot is it not?

[gentle sun]

rotate it. the depot unloaders are at the top of your screenshot. should be on the left

[heady sentinel]

Where can I farm the akhgegde tree looking plant that you need to make explosives

[trim star]

went ahead and tried to set up my farm but i dont have enough seeds rn to fill it out lmao but protocol capacity is running pretty bad (270/300)

[crude nebula]

originium lodespring

[trim star]

math tells me i will have just barely enough to not finish it with this protocol capacity

[heady sentinel]

Thanks, what area is that? Quarry? Hub? Valley pass?

[crude nebula]

after originium park story

[gentle sun]

don't worry. you'll eventually hit the stupidly designed plot limit

[heady sentinel]

No problem thanks

[crude nebula]

wait wrong info

[south pagoda]

officially done w 1.0 story, hopefully 1.1 is better

[crude nebula]

valley pass abandoned trail

[trim star]

oh there's a plot limit?

is it 16

if it's 16 im fine with that

[modest inlet]

finally unlocked buck capsule a production via steel and i was wondering if it was worth it to rework the whole factory to produce that over buck capsule b and c (which i believe have been calculated to be equal?)

[crude nebula]

wrong info, near the first sub-pac

[gentle sun]

it's 20

[trim star]

20 is also fine that's 5 lines

[trim star]

wait it's not 5 lines it's less than 4

i forgot the spacing is changed lmao

[gentle sun]

3 lines of 6, 2 extra

[trim star]

yeah

well at least this little box will look nice when i finish

[gentle sun]

i'm tempted to move the relay outside to straighten the lines

[trim star]

lol

i just wanted my pipes to look nice so i made them look nice

[rough breach]

this gonna force my ocd for sure XD

[gentle sun]

you have wonderful pipes

[graceful lark]

I've been looking at my Yield Overview and I am a bit confused. Does the Usage count the ones coming out of the depot buses and the ones being created or just the depot buses?

[trim star]

yeah too bad im only gonna be able to fully line these three though cause not enough plots (for now)

[slender cairn]

no idea what I'm doing but I'm having fun👍

[rough breach]

from a moddedmc automation addict experience to endfield... it gonna be hell

[trim star]

oh wait that splitter is messed up

good screenshot from me

[rough breach]

but i dont want to start making pylon ...

[potent gull]

So I'm sitting here n automating xiranite batteries and the ore itself right

[trim star]

nvm it's not it's just RED

[slender cairn]

One million red dust

[rough breach]

btw for base just build anywhere ? or its better to be at the main pac ?

[potent gull]

I

JUST

noticed.
That yahzen makes one seed and two plants.
Instead of the other way around like EVERY PLANT WEVE SEEN SO FAR

[gentle sun]

try to organize a bit, but it's okay to build anywhere, yes

[potent gull]

It's been like 2 hours.

[severe swift]

just do this. looks clean

[trim star]

not as clean as mine

[shrewd knoll]

the game encourages you to break lore and mess with the npc's live by putting stuff in the middle of roads and busy areas

[trim star]

that is why i am happy

[severe swift]

defnitely cleaner than yoursa lmaop

[trim star]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1461541796977967289/1467356976324542495/image.png?ex=6980162d&is=697ec4ad&hm=08a110469b5c69dc5067238977c6e26d7266d9142b5ddb60316cc916ebaf4ef9&

?

[severe swift]

u have 1 sprinkler per splitter. half looks empty

mines are full XD

[gentle sun]

you can straighten this aaaahhhhhhhhhhh

[slender cairn]

I think i should actually play the game and progress through the story before doing factory...

[trim star]

i mean yeah but i wanted to build in a honeycomb

[hallow reef]

This better for the Battery?

[severe swift]

cant cause of the corner.

[trim star]

and routing splitters looks busy

because lines look better

[hallow reef]

I put a line outside for the other machine

[shrewd knoll]

you dont need 2 sandleaf for this specific build

[gentle sun]

yes. but make sure your sandleaf sources have enough to supply them

[severe swift]

oh just now noticed. ty, will do that. it was from old setup forgot to fix it XD

[crude nebula]

damn 400k in wuling base's upgrade are so expensive

[hallow reef]

I can just put 2-3 loops for it really quick

[zenith seal]

There's not much to upgrade atm tho

[potent gull]

They need to make this more obvious 💔

[gentle sun]

there's a huge money sink in wuling for upgrades

[crude nebula]

i just maxed out both PAC

[trim star]

im maxed on upgrades...

i was maxed on upgrades like 3 days into wuling

there's nothing to dump money into besides engraving permits

[crude nebula]

time to gamble on artificing stat

[trim star]

and that yeah

[gentle sun]

but number must go up

[trim star]

it's 18k per artifice attwmpt

xd

20k

my fault i remembered 6k per gear for some reason

then once you get rid of the 200 one time buys it gets really bad

[crude nebula]

mine still on the 12k

[trim star]

12k + 8k to make another piece of gear

[gentle sun]

better buy the 60k ones before the reset

[crude nebula]

ah yeah the 8k

[trim star]

^

[gentle sun]

1.2M base price lmao

[crude nebula]

wasn't the reset will be another 95% ?

[shrewd knoll]

they will be toilet paper money once they release the entire region some time 3 years from now

[trim star]

yeah but you'll never get the 99% back

[gentle sun]

the 200 pieces of -99% are one-time

[trim star]

so you get extra catalysts if you buy them out before the reset

[crude nebula]

ah i see

[trim star]

cause we'll be done with all 200 by then

[gentle sun]

the "regular" ones are the -95% and -90% ones

[crude nebula]

now i'm broke

[trim star]

they'll add more as more wuling maps get added 100%

but like

for now it's just the 95% and 90% ones resetting

[gentle sun]

will deliver for wuling bills

[crude nebula]

the inflation rate is crazy from valley 4 to wuling

[trim star]

i just want my 16m little tree

[crude nebula]

not many people reached wuling yet, my deliveries lists only fill with starters

[trim star]

but character development is too expensive

[gentle sun]

people snipe the deliveries so fast that no wuling deliveries come up

[crude nebula]

i want tianshi pillar on my base so bad

[trim star]

if you dont do them hour 1 they're all gone

lol

[stoic coyote]

Transfer job > instant finish

Crazy

[trim star]

i slept early yesterday

and i cant get deliveries today

[crude nebula]

i always take other's deliveries for extra cash

especially the one in power plateau and wuling

[shrewd knoll]

i stopped delivering after the npc stopping giving me mail with freebies

[trim star]

it's the first time you deliver to each unique actual npc iirc

[stoic coyote]

[trim star]

and then rng afterwards

[crude nebula]

they sometimes still give you freebies, just got 1 today

[trim star]

and it has to be an actual npc and you have to do your own

[zenith seal]

Only money sink atm is engraving but that's not base upgrades

[trim star]

actually not the your own part

it just has to be an actual npc

[gentle sun]

can you point me to the free artificers then?

[shrewd knoll]

just do the 20 super fragile 100% and get the trim and be done with it

[trim star]

they give you gifts and buff foods and stuff

sadness

i am on my grind to get as much as the 24% ult charge food as possible but 1 hour citrome plots will be the end of me

[gentle sun]

artifice hits cost 20k each. wuling can earn 12.9k/hour. not a moneysink

[zenith seal]

Even that's not even a base upgrade........

Plenty of resource sink but the one I replied to was literally 400k for wuling base upgrade so Idk why you're being like this.

[gentle sun]

just bantering

[fossil blaze]

place the sandleaf in the middle

[lucid python]

so this blueprint has two thermal banks supplying wuling batteries with control ports, how much do I let go through on each to make it optimal?

[gaunt nacelle]

Anyone have wuling lc battery blueprint? I can't even make any battery yet...

[shrewd knoll]

wuling has enough space and depot output where you can just do one thing and then store it and then do something else

no need for the huge comprehensive builds like valley yet

[zenith seal]

2 and just let it overflow if you're lazy like me

1 and let it run on reserve power if you do loops

[gentle sun]

#1461542035617091681 has some starter wuling bps. try bringing valley batteries to wuling to kickstart your wuling production

[hallow reef]

I have this now

[tepid wigeon]

Can you manually place depot bus outside of aic to make Wuling aic like valley?

[shrewd knoll]

you dont seem to be using all sandleaf from the shredder, just loop it and cross over instead of splitting

[gaunt nacelle]

You can use valley battery?

[zenith seal]

We sacrifice some space for flexibility.

Its modular and can be placed anywhere which makes it better than V4

[gentle sun]

yes. but better to use wuling batteries so that the factory doesn't run out of power if you forget to transfer

[gentle sun]

i think they're going for symmetry/aesthetics

[shrewd knoll]

its an easy fix, hes still only operating at 66% like this

it wont even change the building positions

[gentle sun]

oh you mean this. then yes. forgot that steel production also uses sandleaf

[modest bluff]

So that's why he went there

[shrewd knoll]

yes, just pull from the middle and loop it to the side

[grizzled storm]

Silly penguin didn’t set down any relay

[shrewd knoll]

that would make it 100% work

and remove that splitter

[steel tiger]

the belt bridge wont affect the moving rate of item on belt right ? i never pay attention to it but it kina important now

[tepid wigeon]

Same rate as a normal belt

[shrewd knoll]

This is also a outpost build because it exceeds 36 squares so you can't just copy paste it next to it on the core base

[grizzled dune]

what is the artificing progress 0/12 ? meaning 1 out of 12 to success? or could i add more gears for more %

[gentle sun]

artificing has a chance to succeed. if you fail, you get "pity" progress. if you fill that progress, you get guaranteed artificing results

[grizzled dune]

bruh

[gentle sun]

pray that you don't get to 20/20 because all of mine did

[hollow thicket]

nah who got a xiranite liquid blueprint

[tulip vale]

Good evening, How viable is it to build an entire base just to produce the key materials? And then have the rest of the system utilize thoses key materials through the depot unloaders?
Exemples: Steel, Dense originium pownder and cryston pownder

[scenic comet]

each try adds +1, at 12 you reach "pity" and succeed, it's 6-12-20 btw as you go up in artificing, you need soooooooo many of the artificing components, people are underestimating how much it takes to max anything:

[gentle sun]

another one for me

[scenic comet]

btw you can't p2w this part of the game, this is only factory efficiency that lets you artifice more

[digital mirage]

What's the best way to make more of those wuling syringes ?
The blue ore doesnt seem to exist on this planet and the manual transfer is only 800/hr

[steel tiger]

for HC valley battery, this is the max rate right? 3 dense originium line and 2 steel part line

[gentle sun]

that's the only way unfortunately. progress your RDL to get higher transfer rates

[zenith seal]

Don't go insane from too much artificing now lol

[grizzled dune]

imagine if they had p2w upgrade system to "boost" your chances like other mmo

[digital mirage]

RDL in the source location, or the destination location affects it?

[gentle sun]

destination

[gentle sun]

number. must. go. up.

[digital mirage]

what is artificing? I just got my xiranite component farm working

[lucid python]

so item control ports let one battery go in can it then not allow any others to?

[gentle sun]

gold gear can be upgraded by melting duplicates into themselves (artificing)

[scenic comet]

you also need 2 sandflower planters

[lone sapphire]

Is this good/decent
I know it probably isn't given it takes up a sht ton of space

[shrewd knoll]

no you have to use the chain splitters for battery control

[digital mirage]

ahhh so this is why the xiranite cap is so oppressive. that's the devs gear sink?? so i shoudl alwyas be making gold gear?

[gentle sun]

if you want to, sure. you don't need artificed gear to beat current content

[scenic comet]

good enough, you only need 1 sandflower and 1 shredder, then route the shredder 3x (1 to each of the grinders)

[zenith seal]

Artifice and engraving are the current endgame reso sink

[digital mirage]

im presently just maxing out char+weapon levels and stuff and getting first sets of gear on
is there an optimal building guide? still getting the hang of it (and where i should prio factory w.r.t char development)

[steel tiger]

yeah i have like 5 across various pac

[lone sapphire]

So i just use sandleaf shredder to fuel 2 of the gearing?

[gentle sun]

develop your operators first. gear artificing can go last

[digital mirage]

I've just been haphazardly doing my AIC and sub pacs for whatever items i need in the moment and their stock bill material with the thumbs up
is there kind of a spreadsheet on important things to craft to avoid missing out on afk factory gains?

[mortal hemlock]

how do i get enough stuff for bottles in wulling?

do i yeet my t3 battery production for them?

[gentle sun]

most people have a 18/min buck capsule As, 18/min HC batteries, 24/min buck capsule/citromix C setup

[rough breach]

how to align the pylon properly

[near thicket]

Unlocking wuling's bus depot doesn't show up?

[digital mirage]

you craft/place them its weird

[scenic comet]

i can send you a "simplified" HC Valley Bat blueprint that has the same kinda tree format you're using, 1 sec, making it now

[trim star]

went ahead and grabbed two plants to finish the box

[mortal hemlock]

my subaics are doing one HC battery and onehalf bucka. how do i use the other space in my main fsctory?

[rough breach]

small deviation is making me crazy

[solid imp]

As a general rule of thumb the more complex products are better than less complex ones since they're more efficient in terms of vbucks to raw resources, they're also "denser" so you can store more vbucks-worth of them in the depot

[gentle sun]

... move it please

[scenic comet]

NA/EU: EFO01Iao8U17eU9225o08

[digital mirage]

I dont recognzie this symbol, what is this?

[trim star]

vbucks is a good term

[lone sapphire]

Oh sure! I can def use that as a reference
(Since i plan on making own facyory and never using blueprints)

[rough breach]

i am trying hard hahahah

[gentle sun]

eco-farm

[lone sapphire]

Oh im on asia, is that still good 😭

[trim star]

sprouts are farms and happy robot is sprinkler

[rough breach]

7 plyon movement already hahah

[digital mirage]

whats eco farm?

[solid imp]

Like 8k oricrust is only worth 8k vbucks but 8k hc batteries is worth 70 times that

[ashen tapir]

Anyone have know a faster way to move Materials form valley 4 to will

[digital mirage]

is that the manual planters etc?

[shrewd knoll]

you usually know if it lines up if its exactly 80 and it connects, otherwise it might be 80 and it wont connect

[trim star]

dude i wish you could sprinkler this

[lucid python]

this should make healthy cycles yeah?

[gentle sun]

go to ship, open bag. ctrl+click to transfer all stacks of items to bag. switch to wuling depot, quick stack

[shrewd knoll]

or you can drag a pipe from that pylon and you will know exactly where to put it

[gentle sun]

it's bullshit that they won't allow sprinklers but force the same spacing here

[ashen tapir]

That’s the fastest was right now takes so long

[trim star]

trolled

[rough breach]

the pipe curves through structure... Xd

[trim star]

i bought all of the seeds already for the day guess ill come back tomorrow

[drifting bramble]

is there any use for zipline pylons if i've already unlocked zipline towers?