#aic-factory
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those grinders were also running on depots...
Which is better, 3:2 or 2:1 ratio
WTF IS WRONG WITH U
you can eliminate all sandleaf depots
integrating the sandleaf farm is a way of life
Iiiiin what context
Everything that's the fun part
the sandleaf must flow
thatlls use so much space....
can someone on asia send me screenshots of blueprints ill show?
which one is better
saves space on building the sandleaf farm elsewhere just to feed it into depot
SC Batteries
aight my total Valley IV zipline is only 25, for depot delivery usage only
depends on yours available plot
situational, just depends on which one fits
Yeah that tells me nothing, 3:2 vs 2:1 what 
its 3machines for 0.5/sec
i need 5 sandleaf/sec
Let me just show you
What is the maximum size for blueprints? or why is that whenever i am trying to make a blueprint it says it way too big
you shouldnt think of the amount, just think of them as belt lanes
you need 1 sandleaf per sec to feed 5 grinders, since 3 grinders use 0.5 per sec
that little extra sandleaf can go into depot
or just not, if all your builds use integrated farms and none from depot anyways then it's useless to store
no...,each grinder is 1/sec
2powder/sec is 1powder/sec
anyone pls
each shreder does 1.5/sec
2 refinery and 3 shredders
so thats 4 shreders
1 sandleaf powder per 2 seconds, so 0.5 powders per sec
1 sandleaf = 3 powder
3 grinders = 1.5 powder per sec
5 grinders = 3 powder per sec = 1 sandleaf per sec = 2 planting loops
my brain is dying....
you're flat out using the wrong numbers
ill need a minute
grinders only run at 0.5 per sec
give me a solid minute
is this good enough for newbie right?
im usually good with math but the sandleaf is poisoning my lungs
Why don't we just use u/min as the standard unit, it will be help to translate everything easier
ill be back in a bit
just fix it in late game
because a minute is longer than a second and my brain can't handle long periods of time
its just a lot easier to use belt lanes as the unit lol
my attention span already struggles with minute long youtube shorts
i need more wuling stock
yeah the input ratio is better, since there is no speed upgrade yet for belt
i dont think there will ever be
Like, a Sandleaf shred consumes 30 sandleaf/min and produces 90 powder/min, each grinder uses 30 powder/min, so each shredder can feed 3 grinders
they purposely made everything operate at 2 sec and 10 sec intervals
if they did speed upgrade for belt they would need speed upgrade for buildings or it will be splitters everywhere
for their server's sanity
i also hope so, but i just hate how slow they move 
I give you, St. Overkill
some facilities only has "1 input - 1 output" function. you need only 1 belt going in and going out. giving it 2 inflow belts for the same item doesnt make it faster. also giving out 3 belts doesnt give 3 items at the same time, they are one-by-one going out at intervals (so if it says it only processes 1 item, it will only give out 1 item at a time).
Yo guys my head is hurting cuz of the factory
Like everything is getting clogged š
clogged is not a bad thing
clogged is usually good actually, it means you make more than you need
except for when it clogs important stuff
Well thats a relief
Chat what ratio is better on the long run, 2:1 or 3:2
E.g.
2 refinery 3 shredder for SC batteries
What should i focus on next?
or play arkfarms
Problem with clog is i afraid it impact performance
Grinder huh, which branch is that?
Are there blueprints for area expansions one?
To be fair
There should be minimal clogging at the endgame
Progress through some of the side mission with factory, it'll unlock the expansion ability
Anybody? I get mixed comments
Some say 2:1 is better on long run but some say 3:2 is better for efficiency
Holy what am i lookjng at? It looks straight up out of satisfactory
I fear that in the future I will need to take out my notepad again because they release something where you need to produce one item that needs to process 5 different minerals with different yields and preprocessing
i lost the mass resource tp button for valley 4 inventory to wuling inventory where was it ?
in the long run whatever ratio matches the recipe is best
even at endgame, you still clogged if not using as much as you need, my rig clogged due to depot limit
what is the "long run" u are referring to
My friend say like, you can just leave it once its set
that applies to all barely functional production lines
3x LC batt, 2x A meds. I think (an hope) I didnāt miscalculate this timeā¦
Hate to be wasting some of the input ports but oh well
thats some dedication wtf
actual factory planning jumpscare
im mentally dying
So whatbdo you say would be better? 3:2 or 2:1?
nah,i just realized i was depoting ferium and not ferium ore
well the answer is as long as u have enough ore sources for the 3:2 then do it. else 1:2 or 1:1.5 for slower
3/2 if i remember right
let me check mine
Let's just pray they stick to whole numbers at least
I don't know the recipe off the top of my head, so just use the ratio which matches the recipe properly
Allat for them to update something next patch and having to redo all of this
But thatās what progress is all about, the factory must grow and improve, all my homies strive for best% efficiency
Yo š
Is there a layout that's beginner friendly and includes both xiranite components and wuling batterys?
yes, some already pubished in BP chat
Allat just for it to be LC batteries 
at least you get to save the blueprint, look back on it during version 3.0 and think of the good times
Theyāre the second best rn right? After Wuling ones?
pretty sure LC are the bad ones, SC is middle and HC is best
So for hc battery i use 12 outputs
6 originium
2 sandleaf
4 ferrium
which leads to 3/2 ratio
and then wuling LC
Ahh, alr, thanks alot
a plant thingy makes 0.5/sec right
OH I misspelled then, I was reffering to the purple ones
Lmao
are you na/eu or asia if na/eu i can give you some blueprints
one plant loop (2 planters, 1 picker) is 0.5 per sec, yes
Asia, but i dont use blueprints, i only use as reference, i mainly make my own setups, it makes me feel I've achieved something more
Though i appreciate the offer
And thanks for the details
also i suggest you do the flowers from elswhere or it will be pretty messy
I use refugee camp for the flowers
i generally produce it then send it via protocol stash then use outputs from either depo buss or main unit
Oh alr, gotcha
I just send mine straight to the AIC
can i put a bridge here or does that break
when i say here,i mean from the bottom picker,past the 2 in the middle
bridges don't work on corners, so it'll break
dang
Yeah, you cannot put bridges that goes through more than one section of the same belt
i suggest you zigzag this2 production line, you save 1 box horizontally, but waste 1 vertically though
Lifts would be the solution to so many space management issues, give us verticality
is this the 2.5/sec i need?
can probably fit it better,just asking for now
you never needed 2.5 per sec in the first place, you needed 1 per sec
How do I fix thisš
thermal bank
Thanks
cant combine belts cause each does 0.5/sec which caps the belt right
What do I need to produce rn? Currently I have nothing in my subpac and pac
(Can someone maybe suggest some blueprints )
Cheap easy fix = Thermal bank + orig ore
yep, each plant loop needs to go to a separate shredder

i meant can i hook up 2 loopers to the same belt
no
im runing more and more into a power issue, im making the best bateries in the valley but i need more, anyone got a hyper optimised power layout that i can get inspired by
?
so leave the 2 gap like this
since it seems you're fairly early game, try to make components to craft gear for your ops, don't make too much though since the best stuff is in wuling later and it doesn't use old compoments
wdym hyperoptimized
just make more batteries
every hc gives 1.1k there's no way you're running out
Maybe he is running out of space and that is why he is asking
hmm
make more batteries is in fact the solution
you need a little under 5k power for valley 4 to do everything, though you may run out if you're setting up turrets and ziplines and such
are you running out of space?
im all ready making 3.2k~ with 2 baterry facs, its clearly not optimised enogh
help
looks fine to me
though maximizing your single forge for 30 per min would be good
well the max is three battery units
if you're yielding 12 batteries a minute there should be no issue
which most likely means your issue is not with quantity but with quality
the power setup in question
idk what happened to all of my xiranite, how do i have 0 xiranite š
thers 2 of these
mate this setup makes like
a battery a minute
it needs more input
three originium cubes and two steel parts
I think you'll just have to make more, you can make 30 from a single forge per minute
2/min each. soo not that off 
now thats a problem
someone check me on this
the 15 im making is from 2 forges š, i think something went wrong somewhere im gonna check those
i'm in a cutscene rn
2 forges should be making 60 per minute, are you running out of carbon or water?
how the hell to i optimise it tho? another gearing unit?
it should be like this for efficient production
yeah three units to output originium cubes and two units to output steel parts
if any of your production units are sleeping it's not efficient enough
one battery unit can make 6/min
you need to match it
if you are using everything in the valley 4 ore nodes it should kinda look like this
just checked, it's the carbon, i think ill supply the other planting unit to it and i wont have a problem since all of my planting and seeding units are getting clogged
how many outputs is that like 6?
12 outputs
well common practice is to start from ore to finished product in one swoop
so 12 outputs
BEHOLD SPAGHET
if I'm making 1 set of wuling batteries, it's just gear I need, right?

not 4 buck C?
you can try running farms using the wuling plants, those burn for 2 carbon each instead of 1 which saves space
wait i didn't know that, all this time im still using buckflowers
there is no use of amethyst ore other than that
wait seriously?
I just built this using only sandleaf LMAO
i cant use amethyst without using ferrium or originium
thanks!
so buck c it is
Let me give you a tip. You should try to centralize your grinders so that you can feed them directly the powder from the shredder instead of storing it and using bus to transport it to other places, that way you can have more free space to use for other things
i think the question was why not 24/min of buck c
i mean u dont do 4 buck c production
Like making the battery factory 100% efficient
oh i want to have some amethsty part at spare
thats why i did that
but i might swap
How does the depot buses you get in Wuling work? Do you need the water there to keep the depot buses working?
depot busses must be placed on the special structure they give you
Itās the same as Valley IV variant, but you can place them anywhere within the building area.
basically the same deal as valley 4 though except you decide where they go
So it's not possible to bring those depot buses to Valley IV?
at this point can ya share a screenshot of the end result?
depot buses, works regionally
Most of the new buildings we unlock there are not placeable in Valley
Something like this
what happens in valley 4, stay in valley 4, unless using regional transfer
still in my laev story quest
i'll send in a bit
how many wuling batteries should I be making per minute
6
you actually can make 12, but 6 is enough for now
need to use some xiranite for components anyways
tfw take time mirroring two forges because I was going to set up two battery chains 
yeah the other's component might reduce it to 9/min on mine
although ig once you max out component stock you can go straight to batteries
Since it is all carbon you can make the whole xiranite factory quite compact, which feels nice
I need to mentally prepare myself for the act of changing blueprints lol
Also resource transfer
Can i transfer the stockpile between regions
Feels like there should be a choice for that pay in bill tbh
I was thinking, maybe they are planning to give us 2 more sky forges and double their yield at the end of Wuling, that way it would give us enough for whatever await us down the refinement line
6
Oh
huh
Isn't it 5*?
wait
Man i really need to setup a gear production
what
why ā this
Been rocking the same blue tier gear
i though you mean the cash stock
you click the AIC core to open this menu and click regional transfer
Forget when you unlock it and then metastorage though
says transfer unlocked at 8 and then metastorage at 12
priority for these?
Bike display

nuh
crushgear
First deplete the target tickets or whatever they are called and gifts they give you with discount weekly, after that it is up to you
i went for resets first then bought what i needed
I respect taking the time to give a tutorial while your power grid actively shuts down
I wouldn't buy the weekly ones without discount unless you really need it
oh yeah thats true
finally
i didnt bought those weekly non discounted gifts
18/min on both
I'm assuming the blue valley batteries can be used in wuling?
Yep, you can use it there to start up your factory
Alright. Thx. Time to mass produce them again in hub area
did you guys went for the item limit on xianite component first or full money on wuling ?
Planning on getting batteries first once I get the power to start
Iāve got a stockpile of 20k, but itās frozen there since Iām using the rest
i got a 50/50 shot here
Thatās actually a pretty clean design, much better than my first go at hc batts
I run it with the 6 batteries (discounting 3 I use to supply power) and 6 syringes set up + 1 component. With this you get enough yield, like the stock bills wouldn't max out until like a month later, enough time to wait until they give us more sky forges
whats the output?
what do i do with this, do i have enough space?
6/min?
is there another formula for this where i could produce more?
just ignore the bridges
what factory should i first build in wuling
whats your outputs on component to get 1 per minute ?
the peaks of insanity
Get xiranite up and running as soon as possible, 30 per min for 1 forge and 60 once you unlock the 2nd forge
ur using all the space just to make those 2 yea?
and what items should i be transferring batteries i assume?
heres the full image
15 xiranite and 30 packed oricrust per minute, which yields 1.5 components/min
Oh buddy. Oh no. My power output is fluctuating (not enough to be a detriment right now but it does... Dip. Occasionally)
What the hell do I do to prevent my factory from imploding on itself
I don't really need to feed it 30 origocrust, but I don't need it anywhere else anyways
Lc batteries? I'm not making nearly enough to power my factory
Canāt transfer enough batteries to keep even 1 generator running, so transfer something else like materials
Can probably be made 1tile smaller on each dimension
this is my sandleaf farm
I'm heading to bed, gn
isnt this inefficient unless you remove the shredders on the right ?
You can transfer batteries manually to start off with before you setup xiranite batteries
alrighty manual labor it is
No? why would it?
Yeah, it would be better if shred it on site instead of uploading it to the depot. Otherwise you would need to use 6 depot busses just to transfer all that
just remove one of the planters connection to seeder and remove the right side and its more space efficient
Ah that depot can just be replaced with something else entirely
Oh, I see
good finally i'm out of that laev story
Ok so I have so much space left and nothing to do with it⦠this is my Valley
And my Wuling
12 more buck c
@lost canyon
if you dont connect the second planter to seeder it will have max output everytime
And yes I have an infinite loop for any plants that can be looped too
Is there an unofficial,unspoken competition on who can make everything the smallest
Absolutely, but not really unspoken because thereās a whole blueprints channel over there
#1461542035617091681 yes leander is doing it all for the love of the game
how to mine ferrium on power plateau if theres no sub pac?
Competitive blueprinting is insane
there is
Well, space management is a huge issue in this factory game
does every region have its own subpac? damn
you certainly want to hit a size mark for some setups like smaller or equal to 35x35 for valley setup for the purple item
but i didn't know that so i dragged prower from lodespring lol
Is the number of depots used a forced length on 1 dimension
no only valley pass, osp and plat
origin lodespring and quarry doesnt has one
Usually yes
Wdym usually,is there a corner depot category
There must be a method to calculate the minimum dimension of a factory given the inputs and outputs the machines needs...
lets go, P3 lae
do you guys also use more than 4.6k energy after producing everything on valley 4 ?
Blueprints going beyond their depot footprint arenāt good since they donāt mesh well with other blueprints
5.7k
WE ARE NOT MAKING AN EQUATION FOR THAT
but only 4.94
absolutely not
there's a way, but finding it is the issue
much like all math
damn so its not possible to save one more battery
So there isn't a corner depot category
yes below 4.6k
18 hc 18 buck a 24 buck c
i created a tri-plant factory for wuling, is there any part i can improve?
the inspiration was from a yt video which was a tri-plant factory for valley IV, i tweaked it a bit to suit wuling water requirement xd.( dont mind the pipe, i was just testing it out )
i mean maybe you can shave off below 4.6 but i cba
18hc,whatre yall powering?
I havenāt seen corner blueprints myself but Iām sure they exist
You think they're better?
damn time to shave off everything then
wuling dont need 2 planters
Much easier to just use a regular blueprint in the corner though, you donāt actually need all those depots
what exactly is going into that top seeding unit
looks like a clogging hazard
reduce your protocol stash and ziplines (i just left the delivery ones)
So there's some untapped potential in there if someone figures it out
Guys can someone suggest a good youtuber for base building blueprint codes?
also you might have accidentally put MK2 drillers in originium ores at some point
i %100 did that
time to go around everywhere
You can just check the blueprints channel right here
Umm guys why does it say placement in this area is restricted?
true, let me test it out rq
its overlapping
its overlapping with something
We know the dimensions of the machines, how much they input output, and how many of them we need in each factory. The problem is how to take all this and get an equation that gives us the dimensions of a compact factory, and also how to make it take into account that all machines must be connected to the grid.... Too much math
check for conveyor belt or some loots on ground
i am mass producing jincao so yeah lol. IM BREAKING BAD THIS PLANT
what is this lmaooo
guys may i humbly ask where to post a massive build of pylon ?
plant auto farm that doesnt require a depot bus
i mean the ratio to seed and planters, is 1:1 for wuling plants, so half your farm isnt even operating
Thanks
you are clearly wrong in input output
oh yeah. just realize that lol
Might as well post it here, I donāt think anyone will copy a blueprint for it in the actual channel
Pump water in random location? Nah
wait letme wrap it up in one image since this is massive
hold on an hours ahaha
@bitter idol ye you're right it is useful
now no need to worry about manually making the gearing units

Yeah my mind somehow just mistook the jincao plant recipe with sandleaf lol
What is that belt creature
it is a 3 to 4 belt splitter
bro bought every property in wuling city
Inflation these days man
Valley 4 bills arenāt worth crap anymore
What does the game mean by this
nvm need to fix xirantite line

Is my factory optimize yet ?
Tower defense time
what is the max /min of the ores?
no
mfs will see something pop up on the game and go straight to discord
Min is zero, max is a lot
shove originium ore into 3 power banks
Alrright
optimize it by consuming only 4 hc battery and nothing more
useage is kinda fake but you shouldnt run out of orig ore
since your system doesnt waste power
Then i shall delete my zip and gun
outpost of workers who just escaped homelessness
Slot machine

i still have 25 ziplines on valley 4 and not overconsuming 4 hc so best to give it only to either your delivery route or spawn loot locations
guys?
this is the one thing that pisses me off most about this game, they want to have genshins exploration, but they have invisible walls everywhere
#relatable
ty
I CAN'T EVEN WALK CLOSE ENOUGH TO GRAB MY DAMN WIRE
my dumahh just noticed if you keep jumping while holding relay cable, the arch eats away the 80m limit..

Does someone have some blueprints for someone at level 31 to copy cuz I'm bad at this
kinda annoying that the planting unit only have one side of the pipe entrance
and why is capslock the overwiew button still
AGREED
Nice argument however
bonus lag
Ugh. i need the dev to add 2nd layer of belt 
Lag what
anyways do amethyst components have any use once your past that in gearing needs?
you amazon them away
Dude it would just become the hell satisfactory is 
you can just
Yeah you can just key bind it to something else 
sandleaf powder
anyone have a good wuling battery build ?
Still looking for it in sitting
@marble yarrow How about now?
and shush with your facts and logic, I'll do it eventually, but in the mean time I'll complain about the effort
THIS IS SOO HORRDIBLY TRUE
Anyone know which product should wuling product ? Mine kinda...
aight thats working
are there no amethysts in Wuling at all?
bats and syrninges
my dumbarse still have sandleaf powder ptsd lmao
why is no water flowing on the pipe
this actually looks industrial compared to the conveyors you see ingame
holographic ah conveyors
The wulling battry and the syringe
with grass
its ok lmaooo i also did that at first time and actually ran it for a few hours, with 2 planters and 1 seeder on wuling plants
kek
also its best to line them up to the edge of your base so those pipes dont take much valuable spaces
yeah. im building the blueprint first and gonna spam it near the lake/aquaduct later

can someone help me with this its not getting stable
make more
MORREEEEEE
craft more is always the solution, untill you ran out of ore 
what's the best turrets for essence grinding
of what? buck flower?
Dang, I feel like an electrician in wuling when I replace my old line of relays with newer xirenite relays
the lack of originum ore mined need to be studied in wuling
i personally like surge tower for multiple small targets, and beam for bosses
what do you do for laev
orr did you not grind laev
didn't have laev
the old Minecraft grind in wuling
i have laev but im not even building lmaooo i just want to be at my base whole day
there is 3 dots above the start button thing, where it'll show the enemy info
so after putting a xiranite farm set up what should i do next? should i do something? or just wait till full expansion
do the same thing you did in v4
make stuff to sell
is this optimized route for pylon ?
do you have a steady supply of buckflower to grind?
all maps
i think its the zipline
i screen capture it all and combine it to ones
ah nvm
respectable grind
its the power grid
bruh i just put pylon when i think i need them there 
help, i only have 82 left
the pylons actually look kind of close together
are you dragging the wire and THEN building or are you prebuilding and connecting?
i mesh up using those 30 meter pylon sadge
craft more, it's enough to craft 60/ min
you can easily optimize it if you do the first one
chat is this clash of clans
aight might to redo it all form the hub to the way to top
So uhh, the stuff u put up on the overworld is automatically shared to other ppl, is it?
some are shared
Is that the essence farm
im going crazy with this unstability of produce
essence farm?
Weapon essence
yes
Damn
are cryston parts still need in wuling?
Yeah cus I noticed some of my zip towers are getting repair counts as if they're likes 
They're from other players, yeah?
yeah no. you should do a chain, 3 buckflower to a shredder + 1 sandleaf to a shredder into grinding machine. rinse and repeat
theres a local cap of 13 turrets but u can break that with shared building for +10
Is this a good production rate? I still have untapped ferrium nodes so id have to make more refine later after i get them
am I missing something or is there not enough ferrium to sustain 1 yazhen syringe factory in wuling?
what's up with the ferrium farm
is this valley 4
Parts for sc batts
V4
why is yield =/= usage
I FOUND THE CULPRIT
I'll do hc batts tmr after some stuff stacks up
it is valley IV
yeah thats correct so you gotta auto-transfer/metastorage ferrium from valley 4
the trick is to work up the delveopment level too
it increase ore purity
Im at 7 at the moment
Industrial complex? i find it quite simpl- ah.
yea keep going 11 is max
I still need to connect grid for lodespring and plateu
is metastorage just "wuling can use valley 4's storage directly"?
the lack of ferrium ore in wuling need to be studied. That one vein is carrying both the Core AIC and the sub PAC of wuling lol
no metastorage is transfer from nothing
nope. "wuling creates resource out of thin air"
Peak performance
more like you dont even need to have the item
you're still going to be stuck at 115/min with that tho
gotta manual transfer the 5/min
Dont mind the dense originium. I was makings sure the originium flow stays consistent
and then blocked by xiranite for most other things š
hope we get more wuling stuff soon
40 days or something
There's no area to even walk lmao
See you next march
I hate trying to get xiranite... so tedious at current wuling state
same
im kinda iffed that i cant fully 1-1 ratio the xianirite component formula because my other forge is busy making batteries
Thoughts on this BP?
is there a way to use stahses as output pots?
it is infact very easy...the only tedious thing about current wuling is the lack of ferrium
no
any other way to do it aside spllitters?
yeah im sure there's an optimal ratio for maxing batteries and then split over to get slightly more than the 50% utilisation for the xiranite components but eh
idk i f I can be bothered
any way to do what?
extra output ports with acess to region resousrse
no, outside of obviously depot bus
make a 3=4 splitter
you have the main pac thing and the unloaders, that's it
no
you have 2 extra shredders
in order to get one steady Xiranite output, the whole thing takes up so many spaces
š
you can craft only 2 forge of the sky for now, its not that many space ngl
i mean honestly i don't think we're gonna get that many forges
does it? I have a probably very inefficient setup but it's like.. 44x37
still got 3/4 of my area
and that's for both forges
maybe 4 at most
oh wait ur right
hmmm yesh indeed
I forgot this makes 2
It's the damn plantsss
nvm this bp is trash back to the drawing board
the metastorage transfer automatically repeats itself?
how much in story do i have to go to get splitters?
why are we doing this
yes
holy ive been wondering why the timer would never go down evven after 1 day lol
no, the question is. Why not?
whatt? whats that 
uhh your ugly
make yourself an autoplant in the sub AIC and problem solve :D
whats the max capacity a pipe can transfer?
anyone have a blueprint for yazhen syringe
whats the max amethyst output in valley iv? im capped at 80 and thats not enough
240
where do i find the other mines
can someone answer this guy, i wanna know too (i've heard ppl say it's 2/s, but the pumper only goes 1/s)
oooo I've never seen a autoplant setup that way, I might wanna try this one. But still, one module of autoplants takes up so much space.
quarry and science park i think
thnx
hello, just want to ask, are there any starter/beginner blueprints for wuling city main aic base??
I tried to start on making something for the base but the power was low so it didnāt really work out wellā¦.
if you need power just put thermal banks down and start burning originium, or you can also import batteries from valley4
I took it from a yt video lol. I also made water-based autoplant based on that kek
Is that origicrust usage im seeing rn
huh is there anything else to automate in wuling other than bats, syringes, and xiranite components? looks like all the new plants don't make anything except powders
that was one of my main problems starting out in wuling, I had to use a bunch of Originuim at first to get enough power to create xiranite batteries
ohh, you can use the batteries from valley 4?? I thought those were only for valley 4ā¦..
easiest way is to trasnfer spare batteries from v4
so i use a huge blueprint from sm1 here, but i encountered this "placement in this area is restricted". not "overlaps with other facility", but that
anyone knows why?
ye
I tried using originium ores, but it wasnāt enough
errhow should i do my power system for wuling im still manually doing it
May I ask how to transfer the batteries over??
what is the efficient wulling outputs?
wdym by "how", you want a blueprint?
Its being used for xyranite components?
QQ is your area maxout?
just bring them over in your bag š
gearing components
thatd help
wdym?
you need to use them as fodder to upgrade gear
ohh, I gotta go bit by bit??
along with a buyable timegated item, artificing
gotta unlock more areas from stories to get them originium mines, proly get the outpost first that helped alot on getting most of the mines
Quick question. Have you upgraded your build area with stock bills yet?
yea, you havent even got to the worst part yet btw
I guess i should mass produced origicrust then
yes all unlocked
you can make it on site
i got every pac and subpac area expansion maxed
bring the batteries over so you can start to make the local lc batteries, don't just keep using the valley4 batteries
no need to hoard beforehand
Oh noā¦. 
for optimization you may need to manually transfer batteries over lol but it's easier than i thought
was able to transfer like 5k batteries in 2 mins
whats wulling optimal output btw?
like how many per min and what item
The blankspace counts as overlap

iirc the last guy i saw with this same error had accidentally dropped items from his inventory in the aic zone, that fucks up with the blueprint placement thing
Alr try changing view angle
still trying to balance my orignium atm
cause rn my factory is EMPTY on wulling (well not empty EMPTY but its very empty)
???? wtf
thats a thing???
what you making?
try checking your zone
and yeah
i... did drop something
Item dropped in AIC
batteries and syringe?
that could probably it
Mess
how many steady outputs of Xiranite is that?
6 batteries (or 9 if you don't discount the ones used to supply power), 6 syringes and 1.5 components per minute. If you want to, you can go without components and instead make 3 more batteries
sheesh alright ill reopen game

drink is same as syringe but better to make mass of later when u can sell
I see, then Iāll get started. thank you to all for your help 
what do you mean?
wait isn't discarding same as dropping? I remembered droping hundreds of stuff to just finding them out on the ground
it should be 60/60 just making some changes atm
anyways thanks to everyone who helped me, cheers
syringe and drink sell for same so dont matter which one you make
I mean, destroy item or something

why better? price same no?
like an optimal 1 Xiranite per 2s output
You have an option when connected to the depot to erase items.
i make 12 batteries (but use 2) per min and 6 syringe
shit that means my factory is empty then
technically syringe is better bc drinks only get bought by outpost lv2, but that's splitting hairs so
i got nothing else to build
making drinks is better
you use more of them
yo does my regional development lvl need to be 11 for my hc battery farm to be consistent
oh im still using buck A's in combat
Are the drinks better for healing
yep
yes, but you can reduce the number of your farms rn
11 should be fine,
syringes ill never run out of but drinks ill probably be using more of
Drink/Syringe has higher HP restore
ow you using it for heals? i thought you mean better for selling
both
didnt know this, thats class. will be switching
yeah cuz im at lvl 10 and my power is unstable
tbf you don't need heals at all if you get good
it's just that ill go through them more than my stash of like 1k syringes
what you making?
if I ever need to
Sometimes you get wrong timing
Cost some heals

issue is you can only make one at a time lol
what timing, every enemy flashes red when they're about to hit you
why for selling? (im actually clueless fr)
just pay attention to that
Some field boss dont
they sell the same amount
press dodge when red = win
what you making, and what power you use? (purple or blue?)
but you can use up to 9 drinks in combat
oh really? which one (i wanna know sorry if this sounds sarcastic)
if you put it on your supports
it's more so if u wanna go ahead and minmax your tacticals
ahhh
I cant recall, but some chain attack of bosses dont have red flash
I use these too lol

meh i wont
got 3/5 ardelia so my hp is fine
cause I had to go beat a boss to death with my side operator for 5 minutes
one of the bosses stunlocks and one shots you lmao
Need to observe the movement
huh i see
i really feel like i've never seen an enemy not flash red
welp ima use my factory space for crops i guess
it's a surtr issue
I saw we can turn off core aic power how do u do that
yall ik this is too much to ask but who has can share me a general factory blueprint for a lvl 46 player?
Should I change all my ore mine spots from electric mining rig to mkIII? Or should I js stick with electric with ores lower than ferrium
you know what fair enough
skill eye issue
It's alright
I get you
Should I change all my ore mine spots from electric mining rig to mkIII? Or should I js stick with electric with ores lower than ferrium
Why this red?
I GET YOU SO MUICH
@unkempt hamlet btw is your factory on wulling all used? (like the space) cause rn my main factory is half empty and my outpost is EMPTY EMPTY
Never used up 50 heal item I bring with
add color change mode to the indicators
these are useless though, i havent had a character die in this game yet
otherwise skill issue look at their movement
#1461542035617091681 my guy

i mean have u done this
one of the phase 2 attacks will stunlock and kill you
Huh..
Should I change all my ore mine spots from electric mining rig to mkIII? Or should I js stick with electric with ores lower than ferrium
don't do that
ive cleared the other bosses on Deep Dive, that is the only 1 i havent attempted yet.
So fair enough.... caiuse yes i will die to that hahaha
Even level 2 was close
That is why I always bring someone with arts tubes
those are all for specifics, Id need an everything factory
So I'll js stick with electric for most of the ores?
Because my brain cannot process all those flashy things happening on screen and dodge the enemy attacks
people never read data base?
my guy...
yes
yeah this boss made me update my tacticals lmao
otherwise I just put syringes on everyone before
pfft
i'll have to attempt it, dk why i ahevnt yet
Alr thx
how do i increase power grid output?
mmy snowshine be parry any bosses
add thermal banks
i assume they unlock after doing story? i only have first tier of research
run the bosses for fun and just dont spend sanity is what i have been doing so far
is it normal for my wulling factory to be empty? im pumping out the optimal amount already so idk what to make no more
yes, most of everything in this game is unlocked by doing more story
just so you dont have to go near those things
aight my apologies
they're the worst part of that boss fr
man
i just wan build and optimize stuff not doing story
how dare they hide ferrium ore from us
i mean honestly other than the puddles they're not so bad

i havent run that boss much so i need to just get used to thier patterns ig
Most of us are coming from factory games where the story is just in the background and not really relevant to the gameplay
me when there's yapping anime girls in my factorio
made 2
Do yall think they're gonna add a unique tech tree for every new major region?
i could be wrong but i really don't think that's how it works
just add the steam turbine
hopefully they do tbh
Idk how people how people memorize patterns with everything that is happening on screen, like, I can handle Elden Ring but here my brain cannot keep up XD
hi guys i jst use 1 bp form event but why my current didnt reach to the max like the other
to me it looks like plant juice... like literrally u grind two plants and get green liquid....
Does anyone know where I can quickly get sc batteries? I kinda screwed up and my factory died and I didn't leave any emergency batteries. I just need 6 and everything should start going again
i mean this game gives you a warning light which makes it easier
Nah, in elden ring, thats memory muscle, not pattern recognition lmao
Umm, idk, it kinda seems we are using it as some sort of insulator like plastic
afaik some crates drop them but it'd be faster to pop down thermal banks and start burning originium
Ohhhh I totally forgot about originium!
Yeah, but some attacks doesn't show that warning, or at least I don't detect it
My buckcapA dropped from 18 to 12 but I see no problems in resources, anyone experienced this?
true but you can also judge off the animation of them swinging
most cases is where you use the same output line for a new item
it shouldn't be doing that, did your power lines get disconnected?
my xianite bat from 12 down to 9 due to i use it for gear material
or originium depleted
Check if there's anything clogged
Not that I'm seeing here, everything still is connected
yep... and u really gotta memorize their attaccs cuz sometime the indicator, animation and the actual attacc got different delays between em on different enemies
any screenshot
How many bases we can have like pac
of current bp
you get 1 big + 3 smol in valley4 and 1 big + 1 smol in wuling
We have 3 sub PAC and one Core in Valley IV
1 sub and 1 core in wuling
I have now 1 pac and 2 small so i need one more?
I wanna send but my laptop would crash out if I open anything besides endfield and discord.....
I made smaller version of wuling gear set factory
valley4 is hobo camp, science park, power plant
you gotta do the story
I'm noob i have in valley, the hub and originum
xd
that does not look optimized
Yeah, just progress through the main quest and after finishing power planteau then the quest for the final sub pac in valley iv should appear
Wuling is on a ferrium shortage right? Or is there a way to work around it?
In power plateu i get last pac?
metatransfer
who have good bp for max profit wuling ? (asia)
Is there a way to disable a relay tower?
currently only one ferrium mining area...
Transfer ferrium? Does that solve the ferrium shortage?
You can ship around 1k5 per hour from valley iv to wuling. But yeah, theres only one ferrium vein in wuling atm
you can stash it
how sure are you when I just started in wuling and with limited bus availability (for now)
you can use metastorage to get it to 115/m
but 4 depots use 120/m so still will be down
it gives you 115 ferrium /min (see above)
I didn't know that š„¹ sorrie...
I can work with that
not enough depot bus
missing depot buses
Im transferring battery rn gotta switch to ferrium
Ahh now that you mentioned it, i kinda figured it out, I started with full ores and just built my lines in the morning and im still at valley 10, this helps tbh thanks
wdym
using valley batteries in wuling help me sell 9 wuling batteries/m would be 11 if i dont have to craft gold gear
all the unloaders need to be connected to the bussy
Need more buses
add more depot segment
every depor unloader needs a bus behind it
Maybe nuclear power but they won't add oil.
ey yo
real quick question, how do i hide the names of the various facilities?
^ can you do this?
Why do i have democracy screaming in my ears
its getting very cluttery and im having a hard time seeing what is what
Aether power plant probs
Pumps into blight and use that
Can someone tell me why Iām clogging Iām not max on depot and everything is connected properly??
I need an opinion doe, is it worth it to produce more buckA and only do a single HCbatt line? Would it affect my power system? Or should I try this myself?
one plant produce 2 powder
will I unlock this on main quest?
the yellow plant outputs 3 powders instead
Not enough bottle i think, one plant = 2 powder so youll need 2 bottle depot
Well, time to program the factory compressor
thanks I forgot omg
I have 18k bottles though
I accidentally clicked enter midwrite, i rewrote it
found it, F4 but it only hides it from 3D view, 2D remains unchanged
you mean like instead of 3/3 battery/buck you go 1/X? you're going to only be able to do 1/4 though, so it's a minus in profits
gotcha ty
3rd area

surely an abandoned planet with constant lightning and a sea of oil
lava pumps
Why not though
Considering pumps already exist oil rigs arent that far from reality
I seeeee, so 18 hcb and 18 buckA is most optimal then
yessir
Aight thanks allat, this helps allat, really
is there any way to make the theoretical data match the current data or no?
oh my
I want to submit a design for the contest, but probably gonna get outrank by that one "bad apple" base
if you can max the input on the machines then yes
if your build is correct, theoretical data will always equal current data
is this compactable EFO01a709I0uU3A7oe5e (eu/na)
if you arent clogged then current will equal theoretical
only got a slight delay on bottle but all 5 buck capsules run 95% of the time nonstop
usually its the other way around
its just that 1 second waiting for the bottle
So I add another moulding unite you mean?
arguably it is but you aren't gonna fit anything else in a subpac anyway
check the recipe for the input ratio
Does America and EU share same BP codes ?
yeah looks like this can improve
This is GOOOODDDD
if you're clogged then stuff isnt moving therefore youre using less
Considering everything runs on electricity. Oil has no use also it going to break the whole game's No pollution thing going on.
usually I find that if my theoretical output doesnt match its bcos I don't have the input ratio right
i had -60 and +483.5
you need another refinery for amethyst into the bottles
also
Maybe vegetable oil or stuff for making more meds and food items.
Oh wait, isnt buckflower gave 2 seeds?
for that plant
that too
Yea
does anyone have a good steel bottle factory blueprint
ah wait i just figured it out
everything we do is pollution
do the math here
its 2 steel for 1 bottle, not 1 steel for 1 bottle
no
4 amethyst output and one plant output is enough
Pollution is the introduction of substances or energy (such as light or heat) into the natural environment in amounts or concentrations that can be harmful for humans, animals, and plants.
Is there any purpose to Cryston Components other than purple gear? Or can I just shut down that entire production line and roll it into HC batteries?
You mean the mining and stuff
I was talking about air
nothing else, burn it down
well it is 100% efficiency so
Hmmm that's why hunain doesn't deserve earth.
idk it does its job of 6 caps a min
we deserve the stars
Gotcha, thanks
Know your limit.
EFO01E50UAu8aeoU3uIa
we are meant to inherit them.
Lowkey can you give me a blueprint for it low iq player here frfr
I don't produce anymore of those, and I dont have any saved
IS THIS MAX FOR WULING?
thats for buckA tho
How to to fixed number of things and then auto stop?!
steel bottles you said?
I think oil is an obsolete resource to originum imo
yeah
isnt steel bottles part of the process for buck a? just isolate it
how? im confused on that part
screw endfield wait nvm i need to spend my sanity
remove everything that isnt associated with steel bottle production
they need to add more late game used of amethyst. this item become useless when you reached Wuling
bro steel bottle
what? look at how item control ports work
Oil does have alot of other uses
Who decided that?
go on
i did
I just discovered that I could just blast the ores with bombs
That's the fun part ig
but the final product is the buckA, not the steel bottle. what gets sent eventually is the buckA. collecting manually i dont think is an option
ah yes the etchspace strat
Artificial plastics artifical rubber pharmaceuticals
Of course all these are real life applications
And if what was said earlier is true
It would probably not be added
omg bro literally, if you want a steel bottle farm go find in #1461542035617091681, I'm not gonna specifically build a steel bottle farm just to answer your question
rhodes island is pharmaceutical
was it oil?
i dont remember.
searched but no one has made em
How will i get buckflower for seed picking process šššš
thats bcos everything that involves steel bottles requires a further step for the final product, nobody makes steel bottles just for steel bottles
Walk 10 feet away from main aic

